Bleach Is Back And Better Than Ever
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RIP to all who passed and never got to see Bleach come back
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Pouring one out for the dead homies.
To my homie Brian
Loved bleach growing up man, but damn looking back that whole show is a big turd
Your are the cringe one pal@@SantoryuKauboi
The top 50 statement is crazy Garnt must've had his laces undone cause he was trippin when he said that it isn't at least top 50. I'd argue Bleach is the most influential of the big 3 when looking at a lot of new gen series being put out and adapted. Bleach is like the style over substance type of person you knew in school that was always the cool kid and then you get out of school and realize oh shit this guy had a personality that whole time and he's pretty chill, man I was too harsh on you type beat
Well Garnt's seen hundreds on anime so it not being top 50 isn't that wild. Especially if you're talking favourites and not factoring in popularity or impact.
@@Ash_Wen-li I have also watched hundreds of animes, and I can say without bias its a top 50 anime but probably not a top 10. Its hard to rate this stuff as it very subjective from person to person and what type of an story a person might like, etc. However out of the big 3 Bleach is the most unique out of them and is well know for its story twist, character design/artstyle, etc. I would bet Garnt would probably have put One piece in top 50 mainly due to nostalgia factors rather than objectively looking at it from a critical eye.
@@Ash_Wen-liI’ve seen hundreds of anime and I can’t name many shows with better animation than bleach tybw , there’s a lot of build up, legacy and quality put into every episode with legends in the va and animation industry all coming together to do it , it objectively is top 50 , subjectively he can say whatever though
You guys counting movies too? If so, no way is it top 50
@@crobeastness The issue with movies alone is that its so little time to develop care or interest for characters, world building, story, etc. Its why tv shows is more preferable, just take Game of thrones as an example that made it more popular in the west. So movies I would put in seperated category since its unfair comparison, and a lot of movies are fillers or side content supplementary (aot final chapter, jjk 0, etc).
However if we are mentioning just animation alone then 90s animes would crush a lot of modern animes in terms of animation, esthetique. Just search up "Memories 1995 " which is the most sakuga intense anime you will ever find, they had even Satoshi kon (legendary film director) on episode 1 script alone with a cast full of veterans and top animators at the time.
Kubo has been very upfront about his involvement in this arc. It's been well confirmed. He's very active online and talks about what he's done with the series. He expanded alot of his ideas in the anime directly
i pray hell find a publisher thatll let him work his way (more western) and not traditional japanese work way (shueshia) so he writes the hell arc.
@JohnJohnson27-cs6ix i have faith. So far so good
@waNErBOY agreed. That's the biggest advantage western comics have over manga... ain't no one on deaths door because of company demands like manga.
It's not speculation, Tite Kubo really is closely involved with the anime adaption of Bleach TYBW Arc. To the point that he rectifying or adding things he could not when he first did the manga version of this arc. Providing official artwork, character design sheets, and plot points only lightly touched upon prior.
they just don't know what they are talking about half the time
true, and tbh they never really got into Bleach properly in the first place@@nikolakrstic8079
Bleach is peak. no questions asked. We waited for 10 years for the continuation and the waiting did pay off at the end
The issue is bleach isnt written like a typical shounen manga. Its so unbelievably subtext heavy and it requires you to understand the messages that kubo is trying to convey through the visual storytelling that it becomes really heavy to read both if you dont pay attention or if youre analysing every minute detail.
i think the fact that Bleach TYBW is ranked so high on multiple lists alone speaks for itself on high good/popular the show is. As you guys said, you need to watch all 366 episodes (minus filler of course) or read 54 volumes of manga to understand what this arc is all about, which means that the show is still so popular to get so high on the list.
They are overracting when it comes to Bleach being too long, its the shortest story out of the big 3 with just about 200 anime canon episode + Tybw (52). If you read the manga its even faster and is the ideal way to catch up to TYBW anime (tailored with the manga in mind) and continue on from there with the anime. I think their main issue is actually the filler and waiting weekly for content back then which is not a problem today. The fact bleach is a long show is an advantage too because you can get more invested with the characters and take time with developing the story which a lot of new animes today struggle with.
Absolutely and sure it has its lows but so does every shonen and its crazy how they're hating on the length when it like the shortest of the big three
I want Garnt to be this impartial when talking about One piece because you're just being deliberately obtuse if you don't think One piece also has some of the same problems as bleach purely because that's how shounen used to be.
It does have problems, but the story is miles better is not even close
@@RicardoSilva-nr8st Oh yeah, a story with nearly 4x the number of canon anime episodes is getting compared to one with roughly 225 lol. The story is well written but its not miles better than other pieces of manga.
@@ashersanjan125 And it's 4 times as long but also 4 times as slow, watching the TYBW adapting an average of four chapters per episode and then One Piece which sometimes struggles to cover one 😭
@@RicardoSilva-nr8st So many miles, that I stopped watching One Piece after +200 episodes 😅 The goofiness' of it pulled me out of most fights/scenes/moments (gave me Boruto vibes, years before Boruto came out)
@@Tudoran45Sounds like a you problem. Bleach is the most dropped anime of all time.
I like how one piece has all the problems they mentioned with shounen but they refuse to acknowledge it
Yeah, apparently 200 canon episodes to get to tybw is too long (not to mention its faster to just read the manga), but almost 1100 episodes of One piece is fine..
@@WieldMyWord You're very wrong. It's actually 249 episodes till date to actually get to the start of cour 3 of the Thousand Year Blood War.
@@ashersanjan125They were talking about it was too much to get up to TYBW. This is about cour 1.
@@WieldMyWordthe difference is things happen in one piece that’s not “smug guy fights another smug guy” for 50 chapters straight. To illuminate how badly paced bleach is;
The point between Yhwach’s second invasion of Soul Society and him stabbing the soul king is longer than THE ENTIRE Thriller Bark arc. And the only thing that happens in that time period is battles and Mayuri and Urahara technobabbling about how they got their bankais back. The TYBW in total is as long as Wano and Whole cake island combined. And over 80% of the chapters are battles between characters that ultimately have no meaningful impact on the plot whatsoever.
Most of these fights are completely predictable because almost all of them follow the same formula and ultimately carry no consequences, because we know Soul Society hopelessly outclass every single sternritter with the exception of Yhwach. 200+ chapters of tensionfree battles is as bad pacing as you’ll get.
@@ashersanjan125 I am right, I said 200 canon episodes to get to tybw (Thousand Year Blood War) and then you have 52 episodes which tybw are supposed to be (4 cours).
I would argue that most of the major criticisms of Bleach that they brought up is true of the entire Big 3. If you're willing to give those excuses to Naruto or even One Piece, Bleach should get the same hindsight benefit of the doubt
The real impressive thing about TYBW is that the anime still captures the FEEL of Bleach. So many anime lose sight of what they were going for when there's a big hiatus or gap between seasons.
Yeah, watching the first cour, even being a manga reader, fully made me FEEL the way that watching Bleach made me feel when I was watching Bleach at age 15 and thinking it was the sickest shit ever. The new anime fully realizes the things people *want* out of Bleach.
In my opinion they've lost how to portray comedy. I know arc is serious but even in comedy moments jokes don't hit. Maybe it's just me. Overall it's hard to miss feeling of Bleach when it is straight from original manga with original VAs.
@@dencheq I think comedy in Bleach has always been a "weak" point, now that you mention it.
@@YamatoTre Can't agree, Bleach has the best comedy from Big 3 (haven't seen whole One Piece though). I was watching Bleach back in 2008-2011, for its time comedy was very funny.
@@dencheq yeah i wont call Bleach comedy bad but OP is WAY funnier bro like not even close to the other two
there have been things that have had me laughing for decades
just Pika'a voice 🤣 (oh god it's back)
makes me laugh on thought years and years later
Joey: "Don't take anything I say seriously"
No worries, never did
Saying Bleach as a whole is not top 50 is one of the craziest things I've heard in my life.
Yeah bleach is better than modern shounen period.
I agree they are doing this to show you they are great reviewers idc care what anyone says it's my top 3 with Vinland saga and Tokyo ghoul
I mean hey, people have subjective tastes, and Shounen isn't the only genre of anime/manga
It's not though. There's a lot of problems with it, and I can definitely think of 50 anime better than it.
@@user-pm3iy2dj6ehow on earth is tokyo ghoul top 3??? The manga, maybe, but they ruined the anime with root A.
The idea that bleach had "a lot of great arcs and a lot of shit arcs" from joey is really frustrating. If we are talking about the arcs cannon to bleach then it arguably had 2 shit arcs. the first arc, the first 1/4-1/3 of the arancar arc and the first half of the fullbring arc. Other that that the arcs were phenomenal. I recently rewatched all of bleach with a friend that had not seen the show, and I feel like joey and the rest of them base their perception of the show on their vague memory of it. and with that said TYBW is the single best arc of the anime thus far with no competition. I think it absolutely deserves its spot in the top 10 anime of all time.
If they're speaking purely on the anime including all of the filler and issues, then I can understand the point that they made. If they're speaking on Bleach as a series not even being top 50??? Insane take.
They haven't peeped the OG in a while and they've said their memories are vague, so I take their comments with a grain of salt.
@@somono5116 Thats super fair. I just personally think its really weird to judge a show in the modern era including its filler because there are infinite resources to just avoid it.
@howied2829 Beyond that, these series such as Bleach, One Piece, etc followed a long running format and had no choice but to make use of filler- seasonal anime wasn't an option for the time period, which plays into this as well.
@@somono5116 In the case of bleach you can skip the fillers and have a decent pacing compared to One piece which are ingrained fillers through the whole show (you would need One pace, but even that is not perfect). However the advantage of long running shows is that it can delve deeper in to the characters and stories while taking its time to develop and this is what a lot of new anime today struggle with when they start out.
@@somono5116 I mean you have Garnt calling the Elric brothers for Edward brothers 😂so you have to take stuff with a grain of salt.
I am a fan of Connor but he should not be allowed to form opinions on Bleach until he watches the series, period.
TYBW Arc has been a phenomenonal time “The Blade is Me” is one of my favorite episodes I think and Kenpachi’s fight was great as well
Bleach TYBW for the animation deserves to be in the top 50, it arguably can be put up for one of the best animes of the year, it really has a cinematic movie level of fighting that just blows your mind🤯
It’s less the overall moment to moment animation, which isn’t to say on par with Demon Slayer or something as unfairly extreme, but more so the art style and visual presentation.
It took the mythical/spiritual side of what it already had mixed with the street life sort of aesthetic, and dialed it up to 11 in the details in a way that was apparently supposed to better replicate the source material without going full black and white.
It also goes very well with the darker setting caused by the imperial curtain of the hidden Quincy empire, which is made even more clear with the music (again, the imperial influence early 20th century Germany).
That’s where the visual appeal comes from in my book.
the animation really isnt anything special tho. Visually it looks pretty nice but s2 especially didnt really have any sakuga, i dont get the hype around bleach tybws animation when it doesnt have much
@@DarthDookieMan that demon slayer animation isn’t the gold standard of animation in the anime industry, it’s above platinum, nothing like that before has ever been achieved until recently like the firework battle of Tengen VS Daki’s brother is some of the best animation I’ve ever seen, and I’ve watched near thousands of animes
@@Ayeato s2 had sakuga but it was very spread and not concentrated (probably a less prioritized season), which is why it never had any Yamamoto moment given it was made in 6 months and covered the most chaotic part of the manga. s2 is supposed to be binged watched with s3 in mind as there are no room to dwell too long in s2 content as most of the important story parts and moments are left in s3 and s4.
I mean no offense to Garnt(or any one of the boys for that matter), but it baffles me as to how the most analytical guy of the group can’t see the nuance and substance behind Bleach, but can do so for so many other anime; it’s funny to me, y’know. Still, regardless, I’m glad he’s at least enjoyed it; also I think if Connor took his time to check it out, without filler and possibly reading some of the manga for the immaculate art, he’d definitely come around to enjoy it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Joey is right, kubo changed alot of things especially the ending of the last cour
TYBW cour 3 is going to be wild.
It's going to be even worse than Cour 2 lol
@@za-ir5ni Sure
@@powerofberzerker9487 That guy is mega butt hurt at Bleach's success lmao
@@ashersanjan125 I can somewhat understand him saying that cour 2 was worse than cour 1 as the beginning to TYBW is damn nuts. And the two or three bigger fights in cour 1 were really something. But, cour 3 has the most insane moments that the whole arc has I believe, so I believe that he's just trolling.
@@powerofberzerker9487 we don't even know what awaits as in 3rd and 4th cours cuz now is the time for much of the original non-manga content to pop-up, but somehow this troll knows it's going to be bad. There are too many clowns in the internet nowadays
"Bleach went on too long" lmao looking at you One Piece
One piece still has plenty to offer whereas bleach ran out of anything interesting in the middle of the Arrancar arc.
@@pogo8050that's just straight up false
@@bluemoon1716 tell me one interesting that happens in Bleach after the midpoint of the Arrancar arc that is not a fight
@@pogo8050 why gin betrayed aizen. How aizen was involved in ichigo's development. Tosen and komamura back story
@@pogo8050 the fake karakura town arc is basically a war. Of course there's gong to be a lot of fights.
The thing that is clear is that the Trash Taste people that did read Bleach just did it when the manga was released weekly and they were themselves mentally checked out (their own words) and probably caught up in the negativity. If they actually read it now with proper pace and in a decent mindset where they pay attention to what is being set up, I guarantee they would enjoy it way more.
It a series that is quite subtle in its story telling so you need to pay a lot more attention than with a regular Shonen where the main character and the villian will yell the themes at each other.
Of course I know they won't do that, so instead we get these bad takes on it every time it is mentioned.
Reading weekly is of course gonna be less enjoyable. But the chapter should at least offer something. One Piece can be frustrating to read weekly, but most of the time every chapter gives you something that made it worth the wait. Bleach was just unreadable weekly cause literally nothing happens for like 2 months straight sometimes.
@@pogo8050 I mean Bleach did offer something it just took its time to develop the story. One piece nowadays has a lot of forced chapters that doesn't take its time to develop, and the art has decline over the years due to his health problems (which is why he take more breaks and the anime is catching up). Nowadays this is not a problem and you could just read through bleach with good pacing and beautiful art.
@@Jekiterio it takes a lot of nerve accuse one piece of not taking time to set up stuff alongside declining art to juxtapose with bleach I must say.
@@pogo8050 Its why I said recently, but the art definitely has declined over the years because Oda's health is getting worse which is why some parts in the manga gets a bit rushed. In case of bleach its art deteriorated towards the end during TYBW manga, but anime is going to be the canon story of TYBW. Also Bleach does take its time to set up things why the hell do you think arrancar saga was so long and setting stuff up for the TYBW?
@@Jekiterio I don’t remember a specific point at which Bleach’s art takes a hit. But in essence TYBW as a whole looks like ass. Just filled with massive pagewasting panels, abilities that are just black ink splatter, the linework is blotchy and the battle scenes are incomprehensible a lot of times.
The Arrancar arc was not 200+ chapters of “vice captain #9 fighting arrancar fodder #27” for 5 chapters in a row to set up TYBW. For how long it is, it’s frankly ridicolous how little of it matters in the end beyond “character is out of commission for the final arc”.
Technically it's not necesarily the last arc. Kubo has released another Hell arc chapter. The designs once again like more crisp than ever. But I think he's very much keeping Shonen Jump at a distance wanting to do things at his own pace. I just hope the series can keep going for a bit longer especially how they did Kubo dirty. Forcing him to rush TYBW and ending the series. But it's nice seeing Bleach finally getting the acknowledgement and status it deserved (seeing as it clearly influenced so many other mangaka's) as it got dunked on so many times for no good reason.
I imagine the hell arc won't continue until after the tybw anime is done considering how involved he is with it
It's Ichigo's last arc, in the hell arc it's his son psudo Boruto
@@bastionsea2829 Boruto. You mean pseudo Gohan?
@@bastionsea2829better version tho I can already tell the way it started
@@Fatalbeast22 It makes sense, if Kubo had started working on the hell arc while the anime is in production it could get in conflict with the new materials in TYBW. Hell arc would also spoil what happened to the rest of the cast after TYBW like Yoruichi, Urahara, Harribel, etc.This gives oppertunity for more character deaths and resolve some of the loose ends.
It's called trash taste for a reason😅
Wait so this isn't just a dumb channel that's meant to make bad takes in order to bait out comments in the reply sections?
Easily deserves to be top 50, that should never have been a question.
No, it absolutely shouldn't be in the top 50.
@@za-ir5ni Yes it should. In my opinion it’s better than a lot of that stuff on the list between spots 50-40. It’s easily the best of the big 3 in terms of vibes. I love the serious tone it pretty much always had. And the soul society arc routinely and rightfully gets ranked as the greatest anime arc of all time.
@@spiderdude2099 There's a reason why the original Bleach anime is #715 on there. One Piece and Naruto are better written. And literally nobody has said the Soul Society Arc is the best arc lol. That's such a lie.
@@za-ir5ni"one piece and Naruto are better written" now I know you're trolling.
@@za-ir5ni if anyone is ranking OP above Bleach then all hope is lost for humanity. I hate that fucking show. At this point I don’t even care if bleach doesn’t make top 50, but if it’s being ranked below OP then I question the criteria for rating these shows.
Gigguk's opinion on being a bleach fan has flip flop so often, its like he can't stand being on one side or ether for too long because he wants to hip and cool with the kids (old anime fans who hate bleach, bleach fans who love bleach and gen z kids who don't care about bleach)
Opinions can't change apparently lmao
@@SavantGardeEX From what I’ve heard Gigguk’s pretty wishy-washy with his animanga opinions and just flip flops as if he’s only going with what the most popular opinion is and is afraid to go, “against the grain.” That and some of his statements and takes are either bad or based on incorrect info.
Oooh so opinions must only be one sided with no context or subtlety?
@@itsgonnabeanaurfromme no bu gigguk doesn't do that he just hops on the trendy shit in the anime community at times same with joey and connor at times (watch any of the trash taste podcast and their bad takes on anime 99% of time)
lol if you stoped at 4 episodes... you literally missed the best one at 6
to answer the question about whether or not the anime has made changes the answer is yes. they were fairly small towards the start but in cour 2 they started going off the rails in the best way possible. cant wait to see what they do in cour 3
I have finished the Fullbring arc at the time and couldn't wait for the anime to continue, so I continued with the manga and I must say, the TYBW just brought it back from the grave
"Nin is the best power system because no matter how powerful someone is there is always a counter" the chimera ant leader would like to disagree with that bogus statement
Is it because meruem had to be taken out by a poisonous nuke instead of a traditional action shonen means?
@@elimDBZ every nen fight ends up with the guy who has a bigger aura roflstomping the guy with a smaller aura
like the first time we see the "big guy" from the spiders fighting the mafia assassins, he falls for all of their super-combo and then kills them by yelling and spitting at them
Boys never disappoint with bad bleach takes lol
Specifically which ones? Most of them seem pretty accurate
@@Weirdbritsaying it's not a Top 50 show
They also don't disappoint with bad MHA takes.
Never expect much w/ their Bleach takes. It always feels like someone trying to talk confidently about a big band but they only know 3 songs and watched a TikTok album review.
@@alexschwalbach8229It's not. But opinions exist
They probably kept the Romaji titles for continuity's sake, whether or not more Westerners call it by the localization's name. People don't call 'Jujutsu Kaisen' as 'Sorcery Battle' after all. That's my only guess.
Sorcery Battle sounds like a JRPG
I am enjoying Bleach. I am on the part where they tell Renji's backstory. It's cool. The soundtrack is sick. Does it have substance? Yes. Are the characters interesting ? Yes. Does it also drag fights? Yes. But I guess that happens with any Shounen Jump series made in the early 2000s.
Edit: I finished Ichigo vs Kenpachi and it was pretty hype. I was actually rooting for Kenpachi all the way even though I didn't want Ichigo to die.
Bro I just finished all of bleach with the filler list and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I think you will too.
If you watch Bleach without any of the filler (except that one that happened before the Fullbring arc) then i think it's pretty great, the arrancar arcs have pacing issues but aside from that, it's just a really epic series. The manga was better tho.
I literally watched all of bleach with a filler list and I really enjoyed it. And I just finished 1000 years of blood more caught up waiting for more to come out.
But I truly don’t get the heat for the show it was really good
Bleach TYBW cour 1 was genuinely so fucking hype. I would watch every episode as soon as it comes out
All the arcs in the Bleach anime that I found boring turned out to be deep and touching. I hated the vampire arc five years ago, but when I rewatched it recently, I grew to love it; it moved me with its emotional depth and the richness of its story. I also enjoy watching the character interactions; it's something I really missed. The fights are not monotonous, and I particularly enjoy watching Uryu's battles. As a Quincy, he doesn't have overwhelming power like Ichigo; he's an ordinary person who really has to put in the effort to win his fights.
Bleach is for sure top 20...and that coming from a person that LOVES bleach accepting its flaws and it might not be to everyones liking
It’s my favourite series-kinda based on insane bias but I’m legitimately having an excellent time watching each episode :)
Thousand year blood war arc is fcking good !! Animation is good and plot is good and its really fcking good !!
Bleach is GOAT
Garnt is such a sucker for OP lol every single time he has something bad to say about bleach or naruto, but god forbid he makes that same point for one piece xD
Indeed there is video covering the issue with Garnt (ruclips.net/video/AX-4t5BEVbs/видео.html), he definitely have a huge bias for One piece even though he barely remembers anything other than the most obvious nostalgia stuff that happened over 600 episodes ago..
@@WieldMyWord Yeah I dont have such a huge issue with him as a YTer or critic, but I just cant be bothered with people who dare to talk bad about two of the big three without mentioning that the last shares the same issue.
Like for real, he gives Naruto and Bleach shit for "Arks that draged" but conviniently ignores One Piece's 100+ ep arks like Water 7, Whole cake or wano lol
@@freemanzweidreifunf8025first time? He is mega bias (both him and Joey sometimes when it comes to op)
@@chousion6890 not first time, I just felt like now is the time to vent, as its so obvious here.
Bleach is my favourite anime of all time.
Click bait title 💀
lets put a bleach opinion clip on youtube where we say bleach isnt in top 50 and then we say we dont remember bleach because we watched it long agp
To answer the question, yes, there are changes, removed some of the gag scenes, added a few scenes here and there to show off other characters, like Shiji's bankai, and it will probably get more changes the closer to the end we go since SJ rushed kubo to end the arc in the manga.
Bleach is in my top 3. All anime is subjective. No way in hell do I remove it out of my top 3 just because others don’t like it.
The switch up is crazy
It's true that we need to rewatch or re-read Bleach again to grasp the full understanding because there's certain point that we can overlook or miss.
That comes with all anime, but I agree. Given that it was over a decade ago Garnt, and Joey saw or read Bleach it seems they have very little clue about the show. Nowadays you can skip fillers which solves most of the complaints they have with the pacing, and the canon material never drops below 2 chapters on average per episode. The manga doesn't take that long to read through since its less textual and they didn't need to wait weekly back then.
One of the OG fans of Bleach here who watched Bleach on weekends on Animax and then completed the entire manga during board exams. As much as it is an integral part of my teenage years, Bleach did feel like an entirely diferent anime when considering hollows. At the start of the series, they were shown to be a natural calamity or a force of nature that not an individual soul reaper or a quincy could handle. They became fodder very early on in the series. And in the original manga, their role almost diminished to trivial.
PS Why is it a shocker for Bleach to be at No 6? The way you judge a shonen is mostly the hype and fight sequences but Bleach is one of the OG 3 OF ALL TIME, that influenced anime culture, and fashion too.
Remember when Joey said he didn’t care for the tybw in some live stream years ago?
Bleach, my beloved series
BLEACH deserves it's position here. The story and production quality of cour 1 is master class.
It reached the top of MAL for a reason.
I think cour 1 was a bit stronger than the second, but I absolutely loved Soi Fon's, Rukia's, Kenpachi's, and Squad 0's fights.
I agree cour 1 is stronger in building up to the narrative and its also the strongest part in the manga, but cour 2 had so much interesting things going on and expanded content which was great. Lets hope cour 3 and 4 can push it even further beyond.
It’s not surprising that we still have people like trash taste crap on the anime for years and when it has its resurgence, they praise it. Nothing new from bleach haters these days.
I’ve never been more humbled in my life. I used to shit on this show so much before TYBW but everything that pissed me off was all rectified or explained in TYBW. The step up in animation, colour choices, shadings, and everything else just feels like pure passion and I love it. Hopefully they land this super well and Bleach can finally end in the anime.
It having better animation doesn't change how bad writing is
@@za-ir5niWheres the bad writing so far in TYBW?
@@carterrrsan5614
There is none, that guy is just a blatant hater.
@carterrrsan5614 Fights against fodder characters who are just nothing, a lot of the side characters become irrelevant, asspulls, boring villain, etc. Fans just care about the Bankais!
@@truthcrusader360 You're a blind fanboy that can't defend it.
I think Kubo is just not the type to write weekly mangas. The man needs time to make dripped out characters and thought out story telling. He is definitely a better writer, than what most people think
I mean weekly manga is a hazard for any mangaka, even Oda is struggling nowadays with keeping track of his stuff without resulting to retconning, and his art has declined a lot compared to his early days. I agree Kubo is a better writer than some people make him out to be, he made some of the biggest plot twist in anime and his work has a lot of symbolism. If he continues the manga again he should go bi-weekly instead and there are some news he working on a manga (its uncertain what it is). The advantage of doing weekly is that you can bring out a lot of content to get the story out there, taking too long would end up like how HxH is now and the manga will never finish or what sadly happened with Berserk.
I think working weekly and having to draw every panel on your story like mangaka do; you'll hit a brick wall where you're like I don't know if I can do this. I'm incredibly exhausted mentally and physically and I need to take some shortcut to give myself a chance to recuperate whether nothing goes on in this chapter or I pull something from my ass in order to just make the deadline.
Personally Bleach is one of my top series. The music, the animation, and the story hooked me from the beginning and I found it more intriguing than most other series. I also find the lore of the world more interesting than most other series at the time and there's a fine blend of visual storytelling as well as written and that written information can't always be trusted. I personally found the Bleach power system more interesting than the nin system despite having similarities. I also love how true power for our main character comes from Ichigo understanding himself and acceptance vs pumping weights or some insane training arc. This feels more prevalent since the 1st arc, Ichigo has struggled with the loss of his mother which has caused him to have 2 major personality flaws; feeling the need to shoulder the burden when it comes to saving his friends and lack of trust in his comrades. For someone who has his own personal issues that I've struggled with; I genuinely fell in love with the character and feel that those who have read Bleach once should try again with a fresh pair of eyes cause you'll find more with previous knowledge hidden underneath the surface. Also I find the lore intriguing; especially with what we will learn soon of the Soul King.
Power system in Bleach is the best of the big 3. Most robust.
Garnt’s arc analysis wasn’t accurate, there’s loads of progression in each arc, everything is tied in to the original sin of Bleach, even the Fullbring arc. Kubo wrote Bleach with a plan all the way through, even dropping foreshadowing here and there, like the Blade is Me explains.
I would recommend reading the manga to the point of TYWB and then watching the rest.
Bleach has always stood on bidness.💪🏿
just gonna say, bleach is one of the big 3 for a good reason and hxh is not ^^
oh yeah and that reason is definietly not their respective writing skills lol
You can watch TTYBW without watching anything else, you’ll be a tad lost, but you can. It is also NOT the final arc, the manga has continued and is currently in the ‘hell arc’
You don't love Bleach not because of its engaging plot. It was for the drip and characters ❤
This is like the most 2010 take on Bleach icl
I am on episode 32 and I really enjoy it because of the soundtrack.
The music is extremely unique and fire. 10/10 for music alone!
0:37 buddy i got news for you attack on titan is not the correct translation, that would be the Attack titan
Idk I bailed during the Chimera Arc for Hunter x Hunter (and I took my time getting there). Might have been burned out from watching Naruto, Bleach & 200 ep of One Piece. The fighting system in HxH wasn't good enough to make me stay , despite being one of the most in-depth ones in anime.
Many people were confusing a little with 2nd season but I think it's because they don't see the full picture yet. After season 3 things will be clearer.
The author is working along side the team, they have haven’t just added some stuff, they revamped it completely, the squad 0 fight never existed
Bleach is the most stylistic of the big 3 and it was always my favorite of the big 3 growing up.
Never finished HxH. I broke when the squid Chimera narrated his actions and motivations only for the narrator to stop the show and say it all again back to the audience. Genuinely one of the worst things I've ever seen in an anime.
I kept going but yes and yes. JJK's Shibuya arc almost did the same for me. If it was written in the manga, I give it a pass but barely cause that's what the artist should convey but it's still panels and the anime gets no pass cause it's animated and it's their job to show me how that should play out.
You should've continued there's an even funnier one with a Koala Chimera ant where it felt like he repeated the same thing 5 times in a single long drawn out scene. Me and my sister were laughing but at the same time complaining about it.
Bleach and Black Butler coming back in the same year. Nice.
For me personally, I have a hard time having Hunter x Hunter so high, is I vastly prefer the manga, that the anime just pales in comparison, so I will rate it lower because my mind is stuck with “it’s just the worse version of the manga.” It’s fine, but it doesn’t add much as an adaptation. Also Garnt saying he checked out after the Dark Continent is just a poor take.
The anime is arguably much better than the manga what r u talking about 😭
@@soultheconfusing9563 except it’s not. Sure it’s fine, but it lacks the aesthetic of the manga and instead looks like a bland anime. Sure the voice acting has some amazing performances, but that’s really it. It’s not a bad version of the story, but it’s kinda a step down from the manga.
what about the 90s anime, aesthetically its much better then the newer anime.@@thomasffrench3639
@@thomasffrench3639 "Asthetics" He says Reading a manga panel with a white background or one where a character has barely any detail because Togashi was dying while drawing them. Like im not saying the manga or art style was bad but saying the anime is worse feels like manga supremacy nonsense. Even if the anime didn't add anything to the manga its literally just better. Great animation, music, fight choreography, voice acting. Its just outright a better product.
@@matijasostojic4288 so what you’re saying is that One Piece anime is better than the manga? I mean the music, voice acting and animation are better than the manga, so it must be better. Same with Berserk.
Tldr: if you watched bleach and felt the same or similar to how Joey and Garnt felt about bleach like me? cut the filler and re-watch Bleach. The filler killed the show actually.
I can without a doubt honestly say I agreed with Joey and Garnt's sentiment about Bleach...having a fragmented recollection of what Bleach was like. Until I re-watched Bleach for a refresh so I could watch TYBW. I cut out all the filler and only watched canon episodes. And you know what? I loved it, The characters and writing are fantastic. With its Characters, it's not so in your face about what's actually going on, more to do with subtext. And the fast pacing, the show is just go go go.
Out of all the Canon episodes i watched, there really was only 1 arc (and only part of it) where i felt. "okay, get on with it." and that was the first few fights in the Fake Karakura Town, I Felt those parts were drawn out a bit too much. But for just a small handful out of 200 episodes? That's not bad.
Then I caught up and have now watched TYBW Cour 1 and 2. And Bleach actually is Better Than Ever. The animation, oh my goodness, the animation, story, and blisteringly fast paced mayhem. is it perfect? no, But its pretty dang close imo.
After reflecting on my previous thoughts about it having good arcs and bad arcs, and weird pacing to today? I think my original problems actually just stemmed from the absurd amount of filler I sat through. It's no wonder I mentally checked out the first time I watched it. Stuff would be getting really good, only to suddenly have to sit through 40+ episodes of bad to subpar but never great filler. So it just drained my interest in what was going on, and that happens multiple times through out the show. I re-watched bleach for a refresher and cut out the filler. Thought it was just going to be okay like how I originally thought. And I don't know if its just because I'm older now and can understand the subtext of its characters and story better, or because I don't really watch shonen much these days, or just a little bit of nostalgia. Maybe it was a combination of all 3 and just really good timing? Now days, I can full heartedly say, Bleach is my favourite shonen anime. It was such a blast watching this anime.
* **vague TYBW spoilers ahead** *
I think a certain someone should have stayed💀but thats just me. I wont elaborate on that.
Ignoring the filler bleach is peak IMO
as far as shonen goes bleach is definetly up there. In terms of character design it´s easily the best. All the charaxters just look really cool and for the anime the soundtrack was easily goated.
as far as story goes it´s kinda mid, but the way kubo set up things and did pay them off in that last arc was really great. In all honesty i do think it deserves to be at least in the Top 10, its better than naruto and while its worldbuilding cannot hold a candle to one piece aside from that personally i enjoyed bleach a lot more than one piece
I think that worldbuilding aspect is kinda misjudged when it comes to Bleach, yes it has basic real world setting, but it has uniquely stuff different from anything else. Like hueco mundo is a sci-fi planet with its own ecosystem of living conditions and the fact they can travel between these dimensional passages through garganta is kinda unique. The fact there are rules in how shinigamis operates in the human world and how they conduct themselves is pretty well made. In the case of One piece while its rich of stuff in it (the show is one of the longest running show), its concepts are derived heavily from real world stuff and very basic fairytale stories which isn't that out of the ordinary conceptually. From a realism perspective One piece makes very little sense in how they can have all these technological stuff in an setting where they use basic stuff like fleets and unconventional methods when they have access to modern day technology.
I kinda feel the same with one piece. At this point I’m just watching just to finish it despite me feeling like it’s not always good or worth it. I wonder if they were to remake bleach and fix the pacing/cut out the filler, (like dbzkai, fmab, the new one piece announced) how it would be received.
Yes, they did change stuff in the anime. Kubo said there was stuff he wanted to change to make it work, mainly the ending, because the fans and himself were really unsatisfied with how it went down in the manga
There was a bankai reveal that was not even in the manga. This anime is the definitive form of the last arc
Video "bleach is back" half of it talks about hxh.😂
Hell Arc
Yea Kubo got involved in cour 2 and changed some stuff he didnt get to do in tthe manga because of time constraints, like Squad Zero fights and bankai is brand new.
I love Hunter x Hunter but I wish it kept the 90's art style.
It’s weird, because I find both anime to be aesthetically inferior to the manga. I honestly like the 90s art style the least in the series
Whoa. These guys are kinda behind. The last episode came out like 2 or 3 months ago right?
Garnt is right about Chapter Black.
They really do have trash takes huh 😞.
The influence of bleach is crazy in all the new animes/manga with souls and supernatural stuff
Sending oily black men at your place 😂
Their takes are trash. Lot of great and shit arcs with their vague memory of the show doesn't add up.
Bleach really has 5 proper arcs which are Substitute Shinigami, Soul Society, Arrancar, Fullbring and TYBW. I argue nearly every arc is an easy 7.5/10 minimum and are consistently engaging with very few bad moments.
I'm few seconds in and i already know bad takes are coming like there's only one guy who finish the show.
Lol, no. Most of those arcs aren't even higher than a 6/10. You're delusional.
lol most of the mid piece arcs doesn't cross 1 star in rating ....
One piece is garbage clown go cry
on the topic of "if they changed the anime vs manga," its less they changed it, but they added more scenes to it vs the Manga. Some are just new fights, but a few others that are more substantial in terms of the story. Nothing has changed story wise, we have gotten more context.
Bleach > One Piece. Luffy is a terrible main character
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Ichigo is a boring main character. Also, One Piece is objectively written better.
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“Boring” cause you don’t know what you’re talking about and never actually paid attention to the series, and one piece is objectively worse.
@truthcrusader360 You're delusional. Bleach is the punching bag of the Big3 and you can't handle that OP is seen as objectively better. I can list 10 arcs in OP alone that are better than any arc in Bleach.
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You’re projecting your delusion. Bleach is no longer any type of punching bag, It’s 2024, not mid-late 2010s. if anything that would be Naruto nowadays unfortunately, mainly thanks to Boruto. Anyways only OP stans or Bleach haters would say OP is “objectively better”, not the casual and general masses as there is no consensus as it differs from person to person but if you break it down critically, Bleach is overall better, especially anime wise than any of those arcs you can name.
MAL is awful and its obviously bias towards certain anime there is no way FMAB has been topped until freiren came along
Best is one of the best anime out right now. It deserves its spot at number 6 and it will be top 5 once this cour comes out
If Bleach is movie quality than what is tv quality? The third season of Seven Deadly Sins?
It's not the last arc lol there's the hell arc too
Of which we literally have no idea when is even starting "production".
@@lucky4d725 If its going to continue its probably after tybw, so it doesn't get in conflict with source materials.
@@WieldMyWord i mean yeah ? That's a very much given since you know....the arc takes close to 10 years after tybw.
I like Bleach but there are big problems, It would work better if trimmed of filler and maybe some extraneous stuff, I preferred the Manga as it was trimmer, hueco mundo could have done with maybe tightening the pacing.
I think with all of these manga to anime suffer from running together, really a story is better finished before being made for tv/ film. This is not just anime. I think it becomes rushed and pressured
Personally some of my favourite anime/ are short or light novel adaptations between 12 and 25 episodes with a complete story. You could even do this then and a second story with the same world
My little bother loves bleach so i watched it with him and i thought the og was fine. A bit long and some really annoying characters mostly the two fucks that hang out with nell. My favs are kisuke and kenny, they go hard. TYBW is actually really good tho.
My least favorite bleach arc is definitely the bant one. I was so pissed when I was told it was an entire filler arc. That's when I started tuning out.
bleach is the greatest shonen oat!
Bleach TYBW arc is just 🔥🔥💥💥
If we can get an adaptation of the books ill be so happy
we pretending we didnt shit on Bleach ending in manga? Now when shit looks pretty but still written like shit its peak?
Well people are riding on the hopes it's going to be changed a lot. There's already been changes so I guess we'll see
People shitted on the ending for so many different and stupid reasons it's not even worth remembering that time.
We are seeing actual change in the Anime that's why it's getting hype
Well it's the perfect mix of nostalgia and recency bias. The writing is still shit.
@@Ash_Wen-liThere have been no substantial changes. The writing has still been bad. And no, new Bankais don't count.
Yeah TYBW seems to be pretty strongly on the rewrite train with Kubo.
Every Uryu scene in cour 1 except the hollow fight at the start and him showing up at the end wasn't in the manga, cour 2 has a bankai that din't show up in the manga and half the final fight of the cour was not a thing in the manga.
that was because Kubo health wasn't that great back then and they put pressure on him to finish the manga so he got rushed and couldn't put in some of the things that he wanted to put in so I'm telling you now so you aren't surprised when it happens but the ending of the TYBW will most likely be different too
@@BeyondTheLizzy I know.
I cannot get over how you can put HxH over Bleach.
I'm absolutely not a fan of HxH, because it doesnt offer anything TO ME. Doesn't mean i say that it's bad for everyone, but there is legit no argument other than Nen, that are better than Bleach.