Torah Shadows (Pt. 2) 3 Arguments on Colossians
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- In a previous video (link below) we took a close look at Colossians 2:16-17, and saw how Paul teaches that the food laws, feasts (festivals), and Sabbath laws commanded under the old covenant, are not required under the New Covenant. In this companion video, we address three additional objections from our “Torah keeping” friends on the interpretation of this passage. For Christians, keeping those rituals commanded under the Law of Moses is permitted, but it's not required.
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00:00 Intro
01:16 Argument #1 - Sabbath is plural
05:38 Argument #2 - Things to Come
10:31 Argument #3 - Body of Christ
16:40 Wrap it up, Professor.
Thank you for what you do. I just left the SDA church and I hunger for biblical truths. 🙏
Thank you, Nat! I'm glad you found our channel.
Blessings, RLS
Thank you, Dr. Solberg for this! Appreciate your work.
Love your content Dr. Solberg! I don’t miss any of your videos I really appreciate the opportunity to hear good biblical teaching on RUclips. Much appreciated!
Thank you, sir!
Blessings, RLS
As usual a thoughtful, kind, and articulate response. Thanks brother Rob!
"He didn't come to point us back to Moses." Dr Solberg
Exactly 👍🏻
Torah people get it backwards!
Acts 13:39 And by him everyone who believes is freed from everything from which you could not be freed by the law of Moses.
Us "called out ones" were ALREADY at Sinai to receive His living oracles Acts 7:38 Remember the Sabbath? given to the "strangers within thy gates"? the ONLY one of 10 to specifically include us NOT of Jacob much less that Judah...Happily He reconfirmed His custom given to Moses teaching the Sabbath was made for Man and not just Jews. Well He finally became in the Flesh that Torah He inspired to actually teach and demonstrate what He meant at Sinai. Sealing this New Testament lifestyle by His death. NO CHANGES to testimony once testator is dead Galatians 3:15
@@makenoimage Acts 7:51 "You stiff-necked people! Your hearts and ears are still uncircumcised. You are just like your ancestors: You always resist the Holy Spirit!
Acts 13:39 And by him everyone who believes is freed from everything from which you could not be freed by the law of Moses.
In Acts 13:39, the two Greek words [Strong's G1344] translated as 'freed' can also mean justified, made righteous, acquitted. In any case, this great verse you shared demonstrates that Jesus provides what the Law of Moses could not.
@@dancingzolins6782 Amen. Just another (as the entire old and new Testament) that destroys the Satanic Cult the Hebrew/Jewish Roots
Those keeping Torah are in bondage! We have liberty in Christ, our Messiah. No one can out do what He's done already! Shalom.
@@MelaninWay Yes, isn't amazing that now you can eat pig where before under the Torah it wasn't considered food. Now you can go to a bunch of evangelical churches and have a pig sandwich all because of Jesus dying on the cross. You must be really excited. Also, all those terrible holy days can be replaced by the fun ones, like Easter and Christmas. I guess you realize how smart you really are? Thanks for sharing. If you follow the logic, I guess you can eat anything right? Poisonous or not. All foods are clean now. Those poor people worshiping the golden calf at the foot of the mountain were killed for worshipping the Father in a pagan way. Now you can worship any way you want! Its all fun now, except for tithing, still got to do that according the pastor. Somebody has to pay for the pig sandwiches right? I never understood this verse anyways but it does some to contradict what you are saying. Who is wrong?
"Now what I am commanding you today is not too difficult for you or beyond your reach. It is not up in heaven, so that you have to ask, ‘Who will ascend into heaven to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?’ Nor is it beyond the sea, so that you have to ask, ‘Who will cross the sea to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?’ No, the word is very near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart so you may obey it."
Thanks for responding to my comment on the last video! I hope I can ask this here - I was wondering if you've made any material on first day Sabbatarianism? Especially because I noted you listed many famous and well-learned theologians in your video on whether keeping the Law of Moses makes sense for Christians, but while seemingly none of these people subscribe to Torahism, many of them nevertheless do hold to a first-day Sabbath commandment; e.g., Jonathan Edwards and his writing on the perpetuity and change of the Sabbath. Do you have any views on this? You've correctly stated a lot of mainstream Christianity doesn't hold to Torahism, yet in my experience it is quite mainstream to hold to first-day Sabbatarianism in some form.
Thanks for your content and your willingness to engage with so many different people and viewpoints!
Excellent explanation, thanks Rob, thankyou Jesus.
I am so grateful for your teaching! Recently a couple friends of mine have left our church for the Hebrews Roots pastor “ProphetX” of “Prophecy ministries”This movement is now trying to get people to leave the church and Christianity. This false church is growing very fast. It is located in Phoenix Arizona with a big online presence. I was curious if you have heard of them? I value your channel and teaching so much, I’ve been watching everything you post. It is very helpful to keep me grounded in the truth. I am praying for my friends .Thank you so much for the work you do!
Thanks, Tracie! I'm so glad our work is helpful for you. I've not heard of “ProphetX” or “Prophecy ministries.” I'll have to check them out.
Blessings, RLS
Thank you for this channel, Dr. Solberg. A few months ago, a man from the HRM handed a tract to my daughter and told her she’s an Israelite because she’s Hispanic (she’s actually only half Hispanic). She sent me a picture of the tract, and I was able to talk to her about this cult because I follow your channel. They are actively trying to recruit new members by whatever means possible.
Just wondering ( honestly without judgment) why Hispanics would be considered an Israelite? Seems far removed to me ?
Thanks for sharing that RR. Isn't it crazy that they told her she's an Israelite because she's Hispanic (descended from the people of Spain)? That's like telling someone that they are Irish because they're Japanese. Israelites are descended from the semitic people of Israel!
More importantly, if the color of our skin mattered to God, He would have mentioned it. But the Bible nowhere speaks of skin color as a matter of honor, importance, or significance. Each of us has the skin color and ancestry that God chose for us. And that tells us two important things: 1. We can each be proud of our racial heritage because God ordained it. 2. We should never discriminate or hate anyone else because of _their_ racial heritage because God ordained it.
Blessings!
Rob
@@libertyandjustus8258 They think that Mexicans are Israelites. The stupid part is that my ancestry is English and Irish, while my husband’s ancestry is Spanish. We aren’t Mexican, yet this HRM guy looked at our daughter and I guess thought she was Mexican. Either way, none of us are Israelites. Watch this video: ruclips.net/video/UPl2FC-oxxk/видео.htmlsi=Yyv8N2Yp5ejpjQAx
Are these tracts in white and black?
@@hebrewquotes3148The pictures she sent looked like black print on beige or cream paper, but it could have been white paper. I’m not sure. I’m glad I had the opportunity to talk to my daughter about this cult. I also talked to my nephew about it because he has an interest in the Jewish faith.
Hey there! I spent a few years wrestling with the Hebrew roots views on scriptures and came to the same conclusions you have and honestly it has been so refreshing to find your page! Thank you for the work you’re doing! One verse I haven’t seen you touch on is Luke 1:6. I heard this one used often to demonstrate how it is possible to be blameless in concern to the law of Moses. Do you have any thoughts on how this is used as a Hebrew roots apologetic?
Hey Von! I'm so glad you found us.
So you're saying that because John the Baptists' parents were described as "righteous in the sight of God, observing all the Lord’s commands and decrees blamelessly" (Luke 1:6), the conclusion is that it is possible to be blameless relative to the law?
I think the first question I would ask in response is this: Are Christians anywhere _required_ to be blameless under the law of Moses? Should this be our goal? Is this what Jesus taught? Zechariah and Elizabeth were Jews living under the old covenant law at that time.
The second thing that comes to mind is that if it were possible for anyone to have kept the law perfectly, and lived a perfectly righteous life in God's eyes, why did Jesus come and die for our sin? The fact is that many people in the Bible are called blameless or righteous (Noah, Abraham, David, Job, etc.) This does not mean they were sinless.
Blessings,
RLS
Yessir, those are excellent points! Thank you so much for responding! You make a great point. Bringing that verse up in an argument for Christian law keeping assumes that we need to keep the law as Christians in the first place.
Thank you again for your comprehensive coverage of all the Hebrew roots talking points! And thank you for doing it in such a loving spirit! It’s so disappointing when Christians take up an offense and air it publicly, forgetting we are all one body!
That's why you had the priesthood with the sacrifices for sin. That's also part of the Torah;). The Torah was designed in mind people fal short. It was not a burden or a yoke no one could bare. That's referring to the stuff the pharisees invenented and added to the Law.
@@TheBiblicalRoots he doesnt demand perfection. Hence why ghey are considered blameless. Actually, the fact they are called blameles, contradicts your understanding.
So they are blameless before yah keeping all his commandments, how does that fit into your stance of why yeshua needed to come. Seems like a contradiction
Thank you, Dr Solberg
You're the best!!!❤
Thank you, Krisz!
Blessings, Rob
I agree based on the shadow vs reality principle alone (bc it's logical), but when I look at the morphology when looking at the greek on biblehub or BLB they both say the tense of "thing that were/are to come" is an active present participle, not in the imperfect. Even when I look at "these are a shadow.." it's present indicative... Where do you get that notion of the imperfect from?
I was just curious what you think “drink“ is referring to? I don’t remember anything in the old covenant laws about drinking besides blood.
That's a great question, WM! N. T. Wright says, "The phrase 'by what you eat or drink' refers to the kosher laws of the Old Testament, extended, as they already were in Paul’s time, to include wine as well as food." And I think that makes sense. Paul talks about asceticism in this chapter, and the Essenes rejected both wine and animal food. It also could have been an extension of the Nazirite rules (Num. 6), or the wider application of rules for priests ministering in the tabernacle (Lev. 10:9). There is also the command forbidding the seething of a kid in its mother’s milk (Exod. 23:19; 34:26; Deut. 14:21), which was extended by Rabbinic interpretation to the prohibition of drinking any milk with any meat (Mishnah, Hullin, 8:1ff.)
Blessings, RLS
Excellent!
If verse 17 points to the future, does that mean the fall feasts have future prophetic significance?
Jesus fulfilled Passover, Unleavened Bread, and Firstfruits. The Holy Spirit was poured out seven weeks later at the Feast of Weeks (Pentecost). One could reasonably expect future fulfillment of the Fall feasts, also: Trumpets (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, 1 Corinthians 15:51-52), Day of Atonement (Zechariah 12:1-14, 13:1), Tabernacles (Zechariah 14:16-19).
yes as Hebrews 10:1 confirms these are good things STILL to come...day of Shouting/Trumpets and atONEment and festivaling with Him up there in our temporary tents...
For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
Romans:2:12-13
The Parousia was fulfilled in the first century. (Second coming) Just as the Father told Him and John and the first century church it would be. Revelation 1:1, 3
Col 2:16-17 hes saying when u keep them dont let anyone judge you
this interpretation is not viable my friend - Paul explains the opposite of your interpretation just a couple verses later. He says why submit to the 'do not handle, taste or touch' laws, and calls them elementary principles of the world " If you have died with Christ to the elementary principles of the world, why, as if you were living in the world, do you submit yourself to decrees, such as, 21 “Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!” 22 (which all refer to things destined to perish with use)-in accordance with the commandments and teachings of man? 23 These are matters which do have the appearance of wisdom in self-made religion and humility and severe treatment of the body, but are of no value against fleshly indulgence."
@@deesteven in acts 21 he does a Nazareth vow to prove that he's not teaching against the law or circumcision.
Corinthians he also says let us keep the passover with a pure heart . Clearly telling them to keep the passover.
We also see prophecy in the millennial kingdom that these things continue .
We also see Matthew 24 the Messiah , telling us to keep the sabbath even in the end times
@@deesteven the Bible is very clear that the law is eternal
@@indo3052 Paul clearly says in Colossians 2 "why do you submit yourself to such decrees- do not handle do not touch, do not taste" ; this comports with his teaching - that those were called with the Law, Jews, can still be faithful to those aspects of the law but still it is not neessary for salvation - while Gentiles were not called with the law and don't have to keep those aspects of the law - clearly stated in the following verse from Paul in Corinthians
"Only, as the Lord has assigned to each one, as God has called each, in this way let him walk. And so I direct in all the churches. 18 Was any man called when he was already circumcised? He is not to become uncircumcised. Has anyone been called in uncircumcision? He is not to be circumcised. 19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but what matters is the keeping of the commandments of God. 20 Each person is to remain in that state in which he was called."
But we're all under the law of Christ, and that is the commandments he's speaking about in verse 19.
@@deesteven you are not separating Judaism with God's law. These are two separate things. The Pharisees were not keeping the law.
The Twistian interpretation of Colossians 2:16..... We now choose what sin is and you can't judge us.
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Check Ron DePreez' Dissertation
I think you meant Ron du Preez.
What emerges from Peter's experience from the Acts of the Apostles 10,9-22, to give up abstaining from eating unclean animals?? (see 10,14)„But Peter said, “Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean.”/Did Jesus change one jot of the Law? The answer given to the disciples to the double question in Matthew 24,3„ “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?” „ And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. ” was that the Sabbath did not change at the destruction of Jerusalem (70 AD) and would continue until His coming !
In Matthew 5, Jesus teaches people not to divorce, that oaths beyond a simple yes or no are from the evil one, and that we should not follow "eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth." Seems to contradict the idea that Jesus literally meant following every little detail of the law, in my opinion, as these oppose the teachings of the Torah.
In Mark 7:17-23, Jesus taught that our hearts matter much more than what we eat and drink.
In Mark 2:27, Jesus says the Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. To me, this means that the purpose of a day of rest was to help people from being forced to work too much rather than being something to strictly follow to please God.
It is a non sequitur to say that because a law is called a shadow it means it is not binding for believers because they have always been shadows of Jesus and they were binding back then
What does "born again" mean to you?
@@kimartist becoming a new creation in Jesus, why?
@@jeremiest-louis2943 Are you still bound to your old creation when you become a new creation?
I'd recommend reading Hebrews 10 about how sacrifices are no longer necessary as they were temporary shadows until the reality arrived. I'd also recommend reading Galatians 3 and 4 which discusses how the law was like a temporary guardian until the way of faith arrived.
In Galatians 4, it talks about how the law was needed when the heir was underage but is no longer needed once the heir has received their inheritance. An analogy I like is that the law is like training wheels and the reality is fully riding a bike.
The training wheels are more restrictive to gain more safety but at the cost of speed and maneuverability. When someone is young, the cost/benefit ratio favors the training wheels, but once matured, the cost/benefit ratio favors freedom.
@@kimartist as a new creation I am longer bound to the punishment of the law and I am called to be obedient to God by following the law
Rob,
Couldn’t find a single example of “body of Christ” referring to the church?
How about:
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the “body of Christ”: (Eph 4:12 - KJV)
Shalom
Rob is talking about Colossians 2:16-17 specifically which says:
KJV
Colossians 2:16-17 (KJV) Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
You need to pay attention!!!
- "the body of Christ" is a metaphor
1 Corinthians 12:12-27 Romans 12:5 1 Corinthians 10:17 Ephesians 4:12 Hebrews 13:3
@@krisztianpatay9812The word "is" was added in v.17, the reading is actually "but the body of Christ", could that change the meaning? Possibly, depending on how you look at it.
@@Wisdoms_Inheritance
In context, this passage doesn't refer to the body of Christ, the church.
Colossians 2:16-17 (KJV) Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Without the "is" it doesn't make sense. Don't you think Greek scholar s put it there to make sense in context ???
Throughout the Bible there are English words added when translating Greek because it's different than English grammar.
Maybe they know it better.
Don't you think?
Hi Henry! You mistook my point. I said I couldn't find a single English translation of Colossians 2:17 which renders the phrase as "the body of Christ."
Shalom, RLS
Don't judge how you keep not Don't judge if you keep.
We have to ask? Did the Jesus and the disciples keep the Feast and Sabbaths?
Yes
And we can clearly see in Prophets that the Feast will be celebrated at the end of days.
Septuagint (Jeremiah 38:8)
Behold, I bring them from the north, and will gather them from the end of the earth to the feast of the passover: and the people shall beget a great multitude, and they shall return hither.
Zechariah 14:16
16 Then all the survivors from the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.
Christians will layer scriptures all day to defend the modern tithe,
But will fight against keeping His Feast
Like it was the plague while fighting to keep Christmas and Easter.
The risen Lord never met with his disciples on the seventh day, nor did he instruct anyone to observe Shabbat.
@@rayray4192I dont understand how anyone could not fully embrace the new living and beautiful covenant purchased by the blood of the son of God and go back to a old dead covenant that can't save anyone, and to top it off most of these people are not even Jewish . 😳
@rayray4192 Agreed. From Acts 1:3, we know our risen Savior appeared to his followers over the course of 40 days, but we don't know about their Sabbath observance during that time, so where Scripture is silent, we should be, too.
@@dancingzolins6782 John 20:19: On the evening of that day, the first day of the week, the doors being locked where the disciples were for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said to them,” Peace be with you.” Jesus purposely met with his disciples on the eighth day because a new covenant had been established. A new way of relating to God had been established. No need for a priest- each man or woman could have their own personal connection to God. Jesus always met with his disciples on the first day of the week, or there is no specification of the day. Jesus never celebrated Shabbat or instructed anyone to honor Shabbat after he walked out of a tomb on resurrection Sunday. Pentecost was a new beginning and the new beginning began on a Sunday.
The feasts weren’t God’s feasts. God spoke to Moses and said,” Speak to the children of Israel.” The feasts were the appointed feasts of Israel. God didn’t honor feasts. Both Christmas and Easter are occasions to remember the goodness of God and hid propitiation for your disgusting sins. Leave it to a pompous Pharisee cultist to have a problem with holidays that honor Jesus. You are disgusting.
Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my LAW in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Jeremiah:31:31-34
NEW covenant, New Covenant they continue to recite.
What is the new covenant.
Only 2 mention in the Bible and in both cases the are hinge on the law.
Since the new is an individual choice, God decided it is to write it on the tables of our hearts
"Only two mentions"? Where do you get that? I found 9. But hey "born again" is only mentioned during one scene in John & one place in 1 Peter, so feel free to mock & ridicule that too.
Here is the problem RL, you're actually asserting your authority over the assemblies in this vlog .and inferring. ".you do not have to mention or regards anything of Feasts or have a Bible study on the Sabbath's". This Colossians passage is about logistical observance of HOW to do Sabbath's or Feasts. These days were already fairly routine in the early church, and some can't be truly observed outside the land of Israel anyway like Sukkot. Paul went many years not going to the Sukkot festivities in Jerusalem because it was the logistical ordinance based observance that the Judaizers were teaching and also of being mission focused as the extension of favor was being extended to the nations. I am sure on every Sukkot, he referred to its future fulfillment when he spoke. Take down the tree completely, there is no shadow to refer to, understand? Where are the vlogs against Lent and it's calendar? This passage could apply there too.
Thanks, Grayson! What do you see in the text or context of this passage that suggests to you that Paul is talking about "logistical observance of HOW to do Sabbath's or Feasts"?
RLS
@@TheBiblicalRoots because the Judaizers were often meticulous on such matters and wanted every thing exact in place to avoid persecution. With Paul there was that tension as he wanted the cross central as he put it so well in the letter to the Phillipians and yet regarded a calendar that was in place already in his journeys. Like I said earlier where the vlogs on matters of Lent and that recognition of days. You know the ones that Puritans pushed against as well. It's odd that we can't seem to find Resurrection Sunday after Passover this year. Oskar Skarsone states that it always followed Passover in the church. Some other early church fathers like Polycrates noted the observance of Passover as well. I just think church leaders need some semitic sensitivity and sensibility on this matter, R L. A healthy balance.
Jesus had his chance. We call it the dark ages.
Ok so let no one judge for what you eat, holidays, or Sabbaths, why are you making a career off judging and encouraging other Christians to judge those who do keep the Sabbath, Passover ect? I came to the decision reading Scripture to try Sabbath, at first i was doing it under the Old Law, then God pushed me into how Christ lived on Sabbath and now I still practice Sabbath, go to church with people who live secular, and I don't judge or expect them to do what I am, it's my special time that I spend in rest with God.
Now I am attacked often based off your teachings, and I'm not asking anyone or rebuking anyone who isn't doing what I am doing.
Maybe I'm commenting because it would be nice if you taught your mass following to stop attacking those of us who are peacefully practicing Sabbath. I practice Sabbath from Genesis 2.
Hi, CL! You may not have watched many of our videos yet, but I have no problem with anyone keeping the seventh day Sabbath or eating kosher or keeping a Torah feast. My position is that keeping those things is permitted but not required. I've never criticized anyone for keeping those things. So if anyone is attacking you for peacefully practicing the Sabbath, I agree with you that is wrong and they need to knock it off!
What I criticize is when "Torah keepers" try to convince other Christians that those things are required for following Jesus and that not doing them as sinful. That is the dangerous unbiblical theology of Torahism that I speak out against.
Blessings, RLS
Rob has never judged Torah keepers that I’m aware of. He trying to make people aware that keeping the mosaic covenant is not required now. Especially for gentile Christians.
“Is” is italic in the Bible’s its translated in. A quick glance and ppl can see for themselves. Italicized font means that word is ADDED for-reader flow.
Verse 18 it speaks about worshipping angles and practicing what is called
asceticism... that's important.
2. So Paul was saying in V16
Let no man (non-god fearing or asceticism practicing men) therefore iudge you in meat, or in drinke, or in respect of
Holy day, or of the New moone, or of the Sabbath dayes..... those are what Gods ppl follow. The holy days, new moons point to christ...
(CHRIST IS RETURNING AGAIN PPL)
3. You are reading v16-17 wrong because you don't understand the layout of the verse.. look.
V16 Let no man therefore judge you...(THE OUTSIDE WORLD)
1. in meat,
2. or in drink,
3. or in respect of an Holy day,
4. of the New moone,
5. or of the Sabbath days:
6. Which ARE a shadow of things to come,(ARE IS IMPORTANT)
V17.......................................but the body of Christ....
and the body of christ(church) keeps GOD'S WORD
(Again IS was inserted for reading flow, unfortunately in this case and many others it makes things complicated)
5. So it reads…
LET NO NONE JUDGE YOU,(in holy things) BUT THE CHURCH.
We are to be on 1 ACCORD if we read these verses as one group can do this and another doesn’t have to,
That’s not biblical, that’s not ORDER, it’s confusion and that’s the OPPOSITE of GOD.
FUNNY hiw the Torah is still relevant for the tithing churches...
What G-D commands no one can change. Paul wrote this book to correct false teachings. In these verses paul encourages the church to ignore pressure from those trying to convince them to sin. Everyone has the free will to sin or obey.
The “old” covenant is G-d says it we do it. The new covenant is the old covenant written on our hearts. G-d says we do it.
Btw
1 Samuel 15:23 For disobedience is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry…
it takes a special kinda ignorant to believe 'New' means 'old' Too Funny
Jesus is the Logos written on our hearts, not the nomos.
@@kimartist amen
😅😅😅😅 new means old, 😂😂😂😂
@@kimartist What is written on our is the Moral law. The uncorrupted Moral law, the 10 Commandments, the Natural law. Mankind has is written on their hearts but until God turns those who are His hearts of stone to flesh, they are corrupted. Peace
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Revelation:14:12
To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
Isaiah:8:20
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew:5:17-19
Fulfilled. Where do you take the commanded offerings for All the feasts??????? Break one and you are Damned, Torah Keepers will be judged the law they claim to keep. Good Luck
Matthew 5:17-19 Between now and the time heaven and earth pass, the Law of Moses stands UNTIL it is fulfilled. It was fulfilled in between the timeline as promised through Jesus's Sacrifice and Resurrection! All was fulfilled at that moment!
Hebrews 7:11-12; Matthew 5:44; John 13:34; Luke 5:36-39; Jeremiah 31:31-32.
The Commandments are both written and tradition. The New Covenant Commandments are Love God and Love thy neighbor. All the moral Commandments are covered. The one Ceremonial commandment is not ONCE mentioned by Jesus or any Apostle in the NEW Testament. It was for Israel. The Sunday mass is to worship Jesus on Resurrection Sunday and to partake in Holy Communion as COMMANDED BY JESUS. (Read John 6)
@@DaVinci3333 that is a lie
Dr. Solberg debated David Wilbur on the Sabbath. This video is a one side conversation the debate however reveals the Dr. Solberg is lacking facts on his positions. If this wasn't true, Dr. Solberg would put a link to this debate under his videos. He simply can't afford to do that. ruclips.net/video/E9yp6NvLdKU/видео.html
@user-tg3nd6me9I
R.L. has the correct stance and only needs a few verses to win the debate.
Colossians 2:16-17
Jubilees 2:25-33
Sacrificial system needed to keep the Sabbath by the book (Numbers 28:9-10).
*Attention*
*Professor Solberg has been lying to you.*
On April 8th 2024, Solberg uploaded a video, in which he deliberately misquoted Deuteronomy 11:28, by putting in a full stop where a comma is, *knowingly taking out the one and only condition for the curse* as presented in that verse - *foreign worship.*
The video is named: *What's "New" About the New Covenant*
The time mark: *03:42** (notice the full stop he placed, and compare to the true text below).*
*Deuteronomy 11*
28 and the curse, if you do not listen to the commandments of the Lord your God, but turn aside from the way which I am commanding you today, [w] *by following other gods which you have not known.*
*People, this is how you have been manipulated by the church and people like Solberg!*
*A faith that is from God does not require lies.*
*Professor Solberg was asked by me several times to retrieve that misquote, or publish a notification about it, he chose not to.*
*Furthermore, Professor Solberg upon reply to me was asked why he did that on three different occasions, he failed to reply till this very day.*
___________________________________________________
See how else you were lied to, I believe not many of you are aware of:
*The Messiah making the sacrefices, including sin sacrefices as atonement for HIMSELF (!!) and for the people*
*Ezekiel 45:*
17 And the burnt-offerings and the meal-offerings and the libations on the Festivals and on the New Moons and on the Sabbaths, and on all the times fixed for meetings of the House of Israel shall devolve on the prince; *he shall prepare the sin-offering* and the meal-offering and the burnt offering and the peace-offering, *to effect atonement for the House of Israel.*
22 *And the prince shall make on that day for himself and for all the people of Israel a bull for a sin-offering.*
*Who beguiled you ?? You know the answer - Paul. Paul knew all that, but he also knew the gentiles couldn't read the hebrew. You all fell for it. He couldn't fool us.*
*Why would I choose Paul's words over the words of God through His chosen prophets??*
*That alone debunks Christianity.*
*A faith that is based on lies is not from God.*
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*Explain how can Jesus be an atonement for all sins and 'free of sin' when we know the messiah will sin and make sacrefices for sin! - YOUR ANSWER 🙏🏼*
please adjust your meds
Personally, I think a better use of your time would be to study the resurrection of Jesus. If He was never resurrected, then most of your accusations about the NT are true. But if He _was_ resurrected, then all of your assumptions about the Tanakh are incomplete, and many are plain wrong. If Jesus was resurrected, it means that your Messiah has already arrived! And He is eager for you to turn to him so that you may have life. Jesus said this about the Hebrew Bible, which was His only Bible while on Earth:
"You examine the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is those very Scriptures that testify about Me; and yet you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life." (John 5:39-40)
Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots
Wow... Aren't you tiered of brining that same argument up when I already showed you Paul made the whole thing up and none of the gospels can be thought of as *'eyewitness account'* as none of the writers were actually even Jews and the first gospel chronologically was that of Mark's dated to at least 37 years after the crucifixion... ???
You are coming of as desperate professor.
*The 'encounter' on the road to Damascus*
A short summary on each🙏🏼
*Acts 9 - The author's account:*
A light flashed around him, he fell, heard a voice, they heard but didn't see, he was blind, they walked him, he was healed.
*Acts 22 - Paul's first account:*
A light flashed around him, he fell, heard a voice, they saw the light but did not hear, he was blind, and wad healed in Damascus by Ananias
*Acts 26 - Paul's second account:*
A light flashed around Paul AND his companions (!) they ALL fell (!) Paul heard a voice talk to him. No mention of a miraculous healing of blindness at all !!
*Can you see the contridictions ?? I'm sorry, but Paul even contridicts himself on three basic details regarding the so called encounter.*
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*Your belief in this as a true account is misplaced !! A miraculous healing of blindness (if indeed there was one..) so easily overlooked?? In the face of Agrippa??*
*The whole story is just another one of Paul's lies, it's so obvious!!*
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Please answer this question:
*Were Elisabeth and Zechariah righteous by the law - yes or no ??*
Luke 1:5-6
5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.
6 ***And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.***
*And don't you try to say that it was through faith unless you have a verse that clearly says this specific couple were righteous through faith.*
*Just a yes or a no answer, thank you.*
It’s interesting that our Lord’s own words dont come up …..MATTHEW 5:17-20….. I don’t know how you are going to spin this, will be interesting.
Paul knew it was like today "why you doing all that Jewish stuff"...and NOT "why are you NOT doing all that Jewish stuff"...LOL...why would non believing Colossians judge their believing gentile countrymen "why are you NOT keeping Jewish stuff" why would NON believing Jews judge unclean gentiles their NOT keeping their "Jewish stuff"...
The Body of Christ is the believers "called out" and are to judge HOW and WHEN we are to live and love as He demonstrated for us...a lifestyle He already intended when we were at Sinai to receive His living oracles...
you are still on the pipe I see
"Paul says".. "Paul says"... "Paul says". All you do is quote a liar.
You good?? 😅 . Continue to watch these videos thru and thru 😃
@@YuShudNoe
Please answer this question:
*Were Elisabeth and Zechariah righteous by the law - yes or no ??*
Luke 1:5-6
5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.
6 ***And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.***
*And don't you try to say that it was through faith unless you have a verse that clearly says this specific couple were righteous through faith.*
*Please answer with a yes or a no.*
You ignore it is immoral to indoctrinate children with your fantasyland vocabulary & literate people avoid you like the old woman with too many cats. Read your bible, Jesus Christ says faith is worthless, since mountains don't move in obedience to you. With you wolves in sheep's clothing, Jesus warned us He comes not with peace, but the sword of your delusions.
I love being a "fisher of men" & not speaking to the choir, like that "wicked generation seeking signs".
I know why you wonder about others, you can't admit your embarrassing situation, having one foot in fantasyland. Believers lack any sense of shame, if God existed, then we would all be believers, because that would be God's will. Christians are to be mocked, for all their expressed knowing of God. Freud wrote, "The antidote to Christianity is literacy", Rome won the war of the Jews, so Jesus is hanging from a tree for 2000 years. The Christian home is in Rome, not Jerusalem. If there were any remembrance of Jesus Christ, The Romans would have obliterated it, and you would hear the mocking of a son of a Jewish God. "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, cursed is everyone that hangeth on a tree:" Galatians 3:13
The Jew / Christian God is a Roman joke. Any trace of Jesus Christ would have been obliterated with the destruction of the temple in 70 AD & ;the war of the Jews in 130 AD. Jesus Christ has been proven to be a means to mock the Jews, having their King hanging from a tree, for all the ages. The Romans controlled the literature & Jesus Christ is a proven Joke, taking 2000 years to complete the job, for it is written, "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, cursed is everyone that hangeth on a tree:" Galatians 3:13
Jonah is the sign: A believer, outnumbered by a gathering crowd, by other believers, who murder for faith.
Every sign or miracle of Jesus is a joke. Believers insult us with expectations they are to be respected for their distance covered with one foot in fantasyland.
Christians are slaves to a fantasyland, it is like shooting fish in a barrel: Their history is bad, their theology is bad, & their vocabulary is evil. Freud wrote, "The antidote to Christianity is literacy". So they indoctrinated children to extend a blend of fiction.
Christians give themselves an excuse & an answer for everything.
Wolves in sheep's clothing preach to the choir, since literate people don't take them seriously, any more than the old women with too many cats.
I scold Christians because they lack shame.
Nothing pleases me more than opposing faith.
Incompetence is the God of Jesus, failing to complete anything for 2000 years, being the son of a deity, known for a perfect record of doing nothing. Jesus Christ hangeth for all time, because Romans won the war of the Jews. The Messiah of the Jews, The King of the Jews, forever cursed. The Christians are a curse, being the "wolves in sheep's clothing", seeking signs. The only sign given is believers murdering a smaller number of believers.
Incompetence is your God, having waited on the Jew' Messiah for 2000 years, indoctrinated by Roman literature.
" for it is written, Cursed is everyone that hangeth on a tree:" Galatians 3:13.
You ignore the fact, not all of us can pretend prophesy & God exist. That is why Jesus Christ says, "Think not I come with peace, but sword" & believers make up stories to gloss over the fact they are avoided like the old woman with too many cats. It is amusing to hear the profound arrogance of someone knowing of God, as if He were known outside of fiction. The believer & the literate are separated by the vocabulary of fiction: Blasphemy, God, faith, prayer, prophet, scripture etc. Matthew 17:20 He replied, “Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.” I like asking believers how they can possibly think their faith is respectable, given Jesus said faith is worthless, since you can't expect obedience when ordering mountains to move? Freud wrote, "The antidote to Christianity is literacy".
"Now they know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall". What is The Catholic faith? Organized crime, indoctrinating children with a fantasyland vocabulary? When men are free of religious notions they write, "The antidote to Christianity is literacy." "My sheep hear My voice" is the mindset of slavery. Once free of it, there are no suggestions we all travel better by having one foot in a stranger's fantasyland or Garden of Eden. A mind free of religious text is not tortured by pretending Divinity made Mormons so Christians would know how Jews feel, having pasted their books on to them both. Those looking for the sign of a resurrection, are a vile, "Wicked Generation" seeking signs, led by "wolves in sheep's clothing". "The only sign is that of Jonah"; a believer murdered by other believers. Chained to the slavery of faith, they write: "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, cursed is everyone that hangeth on a tree:" Galatians 3:13
One must be insanely arrogant to suggest knowing something of a God. It is by boldness, Moses became the world's worst navigator, by having one foot in some fantasyland. There is a fine line between fishing & standing on the shore, looking like an idiot. Fail to get the Jews to buy it for 2000 years & they should know who their Messiah is. Jesus is a fake, to immortalize the war against the Jews. Jesus Christ is crucified for all time in literature & the subjects of Rome are illiterate. Freud wrote, "The antidote to Christianity is literacy" & the joke is in the scriptures. "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, cursed is everyone that hangeth on a tree:" Galatians 3:13
An improvement on your God & faith; would outlaw indoctrination & abuse of the vocabulary of fiction on children.
Reference
CREATING CHRIST - Official Documentary / Rabbi Tovia Singer Destroys Christian Argument on Isaiah 53! Who is the Suffering Servant? / Shocking Proof the Gospels Ripped off the Homeric Epics!! | Dr. Dennis R. MacDonald.
Proof the Gospels Ripped off Homer! Pt. 2 | Dr. Dennis MacDonald
you kneel to Ba'al
@@pazrahamim9220I don't know if you noticed or not but Christ has come since.
God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ-by grace you have been saved- 6 and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
Welcome to the age of the New Covenant, my friend.
Whatever Sabbath ya got- it was a shadow that became obsolete. Jump, twist, dance around, stand on your head, do whatever you like, but you can not make holy writ fit into your wannabe Jew bias.
*Attention*
*Professor Solberg has been lying to you.*
On April 8th 2024, Solberg uploaded a video, in which he deliberately misquoted Deuteronomy 11:28, by putting in a full stop where a comma is, *knowingly taking out the one and only condition for the curse* as presented in that verse - *foreign worship.*
The video is named: *What's "New" About the New Covenant*
The time mark: *03:42** (notice the full stop he placed, and compare to the true text below).*
*Deuteronomy 11*
28 and the curse, if you do not listen to the commandments of the Lord your God, but turn aside from the way which I am commanding you today, [w] *by following other gods which you have not known.*
*People, this is how you have been manipulated by the church and people like Solberg!*
*A faith that is from God does not require lies.*
*Professor Solberg was asked by me several times to retrieve that misquote, or publish a notification about it, he chose not to.*
*Furthermore, Professor Solberg upon reply to me was asked why he did that on three different occasions, he failed to reply till this very day.*
___________________________________________________
See how else you were lied to, I believe not many of you are aware of:
*The Messiah making the sacrefices, including sin sacrefices as atonement for HIMSELF (!!) and for the people*
*Ezekiel 45:*
17 And the burnt-offerings and the meal-offerings and the libations on the Festivals and on the New Moons and on the Sabbaths, and on all the times fixed for meetings of the House of Israel shall devolve on the prince; *he shall prepare the sin-offering* and the meal-offering and the burnt offering and the peace-offering, *to effect atonement for the House of Israel.*
22 *And the prince shall make on that day for himself and for all the people of Israel a bull for a sin-offering.*
*Who beguiled you ?? You know the answer - Paul. Paul knew all that, but he also knew the gentiles couldn't read the hebrew. You all fell for it. He couldn't fool us.*
*Why would I choose Paul's words over the words of God through His chosen prophets??*
*That alone debunks Christianity.*
*A faith that is based on lies is not from God.*
___________________________________________________
*Explain how can Jesus be an atonement for all sins and 'free of sin' when we know the messiah will sin and make sacrefices for sin! - YOUR ANSWER 🙏🏼*
Satan loves you
You are unwilling to learn. I will suggest you listen more to Dr Solberg than trying to defend your own believes and then, as some later time, make up your mind.
@pazrahamim9220 Why do you continue harassing Dr. Solberg? If you don't agree with his teachings, simply stop listening. If you call yourself a Christian, you're not acting like it!!
@@zabrinaskonecki6398
I'm not a Christian, I'm jewish, and I don't appreciate my Father's word being misused to promote Idolatry and paganism.
@sonia____02
It doesn't say "If". On the contrary, it shows that the messiah and his children will be fair, not as previous kings were !! Learn to read already!!
*Attention*
*Professor Solberg has been lying to you.*
On April 8th 2024, Solberg uploaded a video, in which he deliberately misquoted Deuteronomy 11:28, by putting in a full stop where a comma is, *knowingly taking out the one and only condition for the curse* as presented in that verse - *foreign worship.*
The video is named: *What's "New" About the New Covenant*
The time mark: *03:42** (notice the full stop he placed, and compare to the true text below).*
*Deuteronomy 11*
28 and the curse, if you do not listen to the commandments of the Lord your God, but turn aside from the way which I am commanding you today, [w] *by following other gods which you have not known.*
*People, this is how you have been manipulated by the church and people like Solberg!*
*A faith that is from God does not require lies.*
*Professor Solberg was asked by me several times to retrieve that misquote, or publish a notification about it, he chose not to.*
*Furthermore, Professor Solberg upon reply to me was asked why he did that on three different occasions, he failed to reply till this very day.*
___________________________________________________
See how else you were lied to, I believe not many of you are aware of:
*The Messiah making the sacrefices, including sin sacrefices as atonement for HIMSELF (!!) and for the people*
*Ezekiel 45:*
17 And the burnt-offerings and the meal-offerings and the libations on the Festivals and on the New Moons and on the Sabbaths, and on all the times fixed for meetings of the House of Israel shall devolve on the prince; *he shall prepare the sin-offering* and the meal-offering and the burnt offering and the peace-offering, *to effect atonement for the House of Israel.*
22 *And the prince shall make on that day for himself and for all the people of Israel a bull for a sin-offering.*
*Who beguiled you ?? You know the answer - Paul. Paul knew all that, but he also knew the gentiles couldn't read the hebrew. You all fell for it. He couldn't fool us.*
*Why would I choose Paul's words over the words of God through His chosen prophets??*
*That alone debunks Christianity.*
*A faith that is based on lies is not from God.*
___________________________________________________
*Explain how can Jesus be an atonement for all sins and 'free of sin' when we know the messiah will sin and make sacrefices for sin! - YOUR ANSWER 🙏🏼*
David Wilber is that you?
You got a chuckle put of me.@@salpezzino7803
@@rzfmca7 I try
Hi, Paz! Personally, I think a better use of your time would be to study the resurrection of Jesus. If He was never resurrected, then most of your accusations about the NT are true. But if He _was_ resurrected, then all of your assumptions about the Tanakh are incomplete, and many are plain wrong. If Jesus was resurrected, it means that your Messiah has already arrived! And He is eager for you to turn to him so that you may have life. Jesus said this about the Hebrew Bible, which was His only Bible while on Earth:
"You examine the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is those very Scriptures that testify about Me; and yet you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life." (John 5:39-40)
Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots
Wow... Aren't you tiered of brining that same argument up when I already showed you Paul made the whole thing up and none of the gospels can be thought of as *'eyewitness account'* as none of the writers were actually even Jews and the first gospel chronologically was that of Mark's dated to at least 37 years after the crucifixion... ???
You are coming of as desperate professor.
*The 'encounter' on the road to Damascus*
A short summary on each🙏🏼
*Acts 9 - The author's account:*
A light flashed around him, he fell, heard a voice, they heard but didn't see, he was blind, they walked him, he was healed.
*Acts 22 - Paul's first account:*
A light flashed around him, he fell, heard a voice, they saw the light but did not hear, he was blind, and wad healed in Damascus by Ananias
*Acts 26 - Paul's second account:*
A light flashed around Paul AND his companions (!) they ALL fell (!) Paul heard a voice talk to him. No mention of a miraculous healing of blindness at all !!
*Can you see the contridictions ?? I'm sorry, but Paul even contridicts himself on three basic details regarding the so called encounter.*
___________________________________________________
*Your belief in this as a true account is misplaced !! A miraculous healing of blindness (if indeed there was one..) so easily overlooked?? In the face of Agrippa??*
*The whole story is just another one of Paul's lies, it's so obvious!!*
___________________________________________________
Please answer this question:
*Were Elisabeth and Zechariah righteous by the law - yes or no ??*
Luke 1:5-6
5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.
6 ***And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.***
*And don't you try to say that it was through faith unless you have a verse that clearly says this specific couple were righteous through faith.*
*Just a yes or a no answer, thank you.*
*Attention*
*Professor Solberg has been lying to you.*
On April 8th 2024, Solberg uploaded a video, in which he deliberately misquoted Deuteronomy 11:28, by putting in a full stop where a comma is, *knowingly taking out the one and only condition for the curse* as presented in that verse - *foreign worship.*
The video is named: *What's "New" About the New Covenant*
The time mark: *03:42** (notice the full stop he placed, and compare to the true text below).*
*Deuteronomy 11*
28 and the curse, if you do not listen to the commandments of the Lord your God, but turn aside from the way which I am commanding you today, [w] *by following other gods which you have not known.*
*People, this is how you have been manipulated by the church and people like Solberg!*
*A faith that is from God does not require lies.*
*Professor Solberg was asked by me several times to retrieve that misquote, or publish a notification about it, he chose not to.*
*Furthermore, Professor Solberg upon reply to me was asked why he did that on three different occasions, he failed to reply till this very day.*
___________________________________________________
See how else you were lied to, I believe not many of you are aware of:
*The Messiah making the sacrefices, including sin sacrefices as atonement for HIMSELF (!!) and for the people*
*Ezekiel 45:*
17 And the burnt-offerings and the meal-offerings and the libations on the Festivals and on the New Moons and on the Sabbaths, and on all the times fixed for meetings of the House of Israel shall devolve on the prince; *he shall prepare the sin-offering* and the meal-offering and the burnt offering and the peace-offering, *to effect atonement for the House of Israel.*
22 *And the prince shall make on that day for himself and for all the people of Israel a bull for a sin-offering.*
*Who beguiled you ?? You know the answer - Paul. Paul knew all that, but he also knew the gentiles couldn't read the hebrew. You all fell for it. He couldn't fool us.*
*Why would I choose Paul's words over the words of God through His chosen prophets??*
*That alone debunks Christianity.*
*A faith that is based on lies is not from God.*
___________________________________________________
*Explain how can Jesus be an atonement for all sins and 'free of sin' when we know the messiah will sin and make sacrefices for sin! - YOUR ANSWER 🙏🏼*
You should stop listening to Tovia Singer, his arguments have been debunked, long ago, he is more of less spewing out the same arguments used by Jews since the first century to attack Christianity. You misunderstand both the context of Ezekiel and the nature of Jesus' atonement.
Context of Ezekiel 45: The passages you quoted from Ezekiel 45:17 and 45:22 refer to a future prince performing sacrifices. However, these passages do not explicitly refer to the Messiah, and even if they did, they should be understood within the larger context of prophetic literature, which often uses symbolic language. The role of this prince is not necessarily indicative of Jesus’ role in the New Testament.
Jesus as the Sinless Sacrifice: Hebrews 4:15, "For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are-yet was without sin." Jesus’ sinlessness is a cornerstone of His qualification to be the perfect atonement for humanity’s sins.
Fulfillment of the Law: Matthew 5:17, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." His sacrificial death is seen as the fulfillment of the sacrificial system outlined in the Old Testament, not a contradiction to it. The sacrifices in Ezekiel were part of the old covenant, which Jesus fulfilled and surpassed with His ultimate sacrifice.
Paul's Teachings and Hebrew Scripture: Paul, a Pharisee trained in Hebrew Scriptures, consistently emphasized the continuity between Jesus' teachings and the Hebrew Bible. See Romans 3:21-22 "But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe." Paul did not deceive the Gentiles but rather explained the fulfillment of prophecies concerning the Messiah.
Prophetic Consistency: Prophets like Isaiah foretold a suffering servant who would bear the sins of many (Isaiah 53:5-6). This aligns with the New Testament portrayal of Jesus as the sacrificial lamb who takes away the sins of the world (John 1:29).
Historical and Scriptural Evidence: Christianity is not based on lies but on the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ, witnessed and documented by multiple sources. The early Church Fathers, the Gospels, and Paul's letters provide a consistent testimony of Jesus’ mission and His fulfillment of Old Testament prophecies.
Your interpretation of Ezekiel 45 does not debunk Christianity at all. Jesus' role as the sinless atonement is well-supported by both New Testament writings and Old Testament prophecies.
@@BasilNaaar
*See how you were all fooled:*
*The messiah will be a king, a man, who will have children, an inheritance, who will worship God and who will have sin like anyone else for which he will offer sin sacrefices on behalf of HIMSELF (!!) and of the peopl as you were shown..*
*Ezekiel 45:*
8 In the land, *he shall have it for a possession in Israel,* and My princes shall no longer defraud My people, and the land they shall give to the House of Israel to their tribes.
*Ezekiel 46:*
2 And the prince shall enter by way of the vestibule of the gate without, and he shall stand at the doorpost of the gate, and the priests shall offer his burnt-offering and his peace-offering, and *he shall prostrate* himself at the threshold of the gate, and go out, but the gate shall not be closed until the evening.
16 So says the Lord God: If the prince give a gift to any of *his sons,* it is *his inheritance and remains in his sons' possession; it is their property by inheritance.*
17 But if he gives a gift of his inheritance to one of his servants, then it shall be his until the year of liberty, and then it comes back to the prince; *only to his sons shall his inheritance belong.*
18 But the prince may not take of the people's inheritance to force them out of their possessions, *only from his own possessions shall he give his sons inheritance,* so that My people not be scattered each man from his inheritance.
*Christianity is just a lie, I'm sorry.*
*You were all had by Paul who knew the gentiles couldn't read the Hebrew of the original text.*
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Proof that 'the prince' in Ezekiel is the messiah to come'.
The verses regarding the prince, the messiah:
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וַאֲנִ֣י יְהוָ֗ה אֶהְיֶ֤ה לָהֶם֙ לֵֽאלֹהִ֔ים *וְעַבְדִּ֥י דָוִ֖ד נָשִׂ֣יא* בְתוֹכָ֑ם אֲנִ֥י יְהוָ֖ה דִּבַּֽרְתִּי׃
And I the Lord will be their God, *and my servant David a prince among them;* I the Lord have spoken it. *Ezekiel 34:24*
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וְיָשְׁב֣וּ עַל־הָאָ֗רֶץ אֲשֶׁ֤ר נָתַ֨תִּי֙ לְעַבְדִּ֣י לְיַֽעֲקֹ֔ב אֲשֶׁ֥ר יָֽשְׁבוּ־בָ֖הּ אֲבֽוֹתֵיכֶ֑ם וְיָשְׁב֣וּ עָלֶ֡יהָ הֵ֠מָּה וּבְנֵיהֶ֞ם וּבְנֵ֤י בְנֵיהֶם֙ עַד־עוֹלָ֔ם *וְדָוִ֣ד עַבְדִּ֔י נָשִׂ֥יא לָהֶ֖ם לְעוֹלָֽם׃*
And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: *and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.* *Ezekiel 37:25*
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Jesus couldn't keep the whole law because he would also have to be both man and a woman, a farmer a butcher, a priest of the priesthood tribe (by geneology and not as you preceive), living abroad as well as in the land itself... You don't even have a clue - they all have different laws to observe - Jesus didn't 'fulfill' all the law, nor can the law be 'fulfilled,' as it is eternal and as Sabbaths will be kept and sacrefices will be renewed, that makes it perfectly clear that God's law is to be kept for eternity:
*The eternity of the law:*
*Numbers **15:22*
“‘Now if you as a community unintentionally fail to keep any of these commands the Lord gave Moses- 23 any of the Lord’s commands to you through him, from the day the Lord gave them and continuing *through the generations to come*
*Deuteronomy 5:3*
It was not with our ancestors[a] that the Lord made this covenant, *but with us, with all of us who are alive here today.*
*Psalm 119:89*
*Your word, Lord, is eternal;* it stands firm in the heavens.
*Psalm 119:152*
*Long ago I learned from your statutes that you established them to last forever.*
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*The reinstatement of sacrefices at the end of days*
*Ezekiel 37:*
24 *And David my servant shall be king over them;* and they all shall have one shepherd: *they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.*
*Jeremiah 17:*
And they shall come from the cities of Judah, and from the places about Jerusalem, and from the land of Benjamin, and from the plain, and from the mountains, and from the south, *bringing burnt offerings, and sacrifices, and meat offerings, and incense, and bringing sacrifices of praise,* unto the house of the Lord.
27 But if ye will not hearken unto me *to hallow the sabbath day,* and not to bear a burden, even entering in at the gates of Jerusalem on the sabbath day; then will I kindle a fire in the gates thereof, and it shall devour the palaces of Jerusalem, and it shall not be quenched.
*Isiah 56:*
6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the Lord, to serve him, and to love the name of the Lord, to be his servants, *every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;*
Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: *their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.*
*Isiah 60:*
7 All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered together unto thee, the rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee: *they shall come up with acceptance on mine altar,* and I will glorify the house of my glory.
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Why would I believe Paul who was just a liar over God's own prophets??
You were fed lies. I'm sorry 😐.
@@BasilNaaar
BTW, Jesus was not sinless, as he failed to father children.
Regarding the "order of Malchizedek"
*See the correct translation of 110:4 and I will explain.*
4 The Lord swore and will not repent; *you are a priest forever because of the speech of Malchizedek.*
Priest has another meaning in Hebrew other than the person who serves as a real priest. It also means to preside.
King David is just being told he and his descendants after him will preside as rulers.
Just as David sons were called priests in 2 Samuel 8:18 but weren't priests at the temple.
*See the NIV translation:*
Benaiah son of Jehoiada was over the Kerethites and Pelethites; *and David’s sons were priests.*
*Compare with the correct translation by Chabad:*
18And Benayahu the son of Yehoyada [was over] the archers and the slingers; *and David's sons were chief officers.*
Just as Melchizedek ruled Jerusalm in a name of a supreme God so shall king David and his sons will rule it in the name of God.
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You were lied to. Time to wake up.
You shouldnt mix your meds with cheap Vodka
@@BasilNaaar
*The Passover lamb:*
*Allow me to show you how you were all bamboozled.. firstly by Paul who brought up this motif and secondly by John, who further developed it up to the extent of changing the day of Jesus's death, in contrary to the synoptic gospels (!) to claim Jesus's crucifixion was a day earlier (!) when the lambs are slaughtered (!) just to tie it nicely with the narrative.*
The Passover lamb motif is antithetical to its true purpose in Exodus, thus cannot be a Jewish motif.
*The Passover lamb represented the God of Egypt Khnum - a false idol god!*
*It had nothing to do with sin.Every Jew who knows God's true word will tell you that.*
Here, from the text:
*Exodus 8:*
25 And Pharaoh called for Moses and for Aaron, and said, Go ye, sacrifice to your God in the land.
26 And Moses said, It is not meet so to do; *for we shall sacrifice the abomination of the Egyptians to the Lord our God: lo, shall we sacrifice the abomination of the Egyptians before their eyes, and will they not stone us?*
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*The Passover is celebrated as a memorial for God's deliverance of His people - not for sins.*
*The sacrifice it self is named 'The Passover':*
*Exodus 12*
14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the Lord throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.
27 That ye shall say, It is the sacrifice of the Lord's passover, who passed over the houses of the children of Israel in Egypt, when he smote the Egyptians, and delivered our houses. And the people bowed the head and worshipped.
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*The sacrefice was per household not for sins:*
*Exodus 12*
3 Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, *according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an house:*
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*Why roasted and not cooked?? The smell of the Egyptian's deity burn carries, to show the Egyptians that their 'god' is nothing and does not scare God's people.*
*Exodus 12:*
8 And they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it.
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*As the children of Israel were shepherds, and were accustomed of eating lamb, they were considered an abomination to the Egyptians,
This is why the Joseph's brothers were seated separately:*
*Genesis 43:*
32 And they set on for him by himself, *and for them by themselves,* and for the Egyptians, which did eat with him, by themselves: *because the Egyptians might not eat bread with the Hebrews; for that is an abomination unto the Egyptians.*
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*This was also the reason why the children of Israel were sent to Goshen, to seperate them from the Egyptians because of their eating habits and their occupation:*
*Genesis 46:*
31 And Joseph said unto his brethren, and unto his father's house, I will go up, and shew Pharaoh, and say unto him, My brethren, and my father's house, which were in the land of Canaan, are come unto me;
32 And the men are shepherds, for their trade hath been to feed cattle; and they have brought their flocks, and their herds, and all that they have.
33 And it shall come to pass, when Pharaoh shall call you, and shall say, What is your occupation?
34 That ye shall say, Thy servants' trade hath been about cattle from our youth even until now, both we, and also our fathers: *that ye may dwell in the land of Goshen; for every shepherd is an abomination unto the Egyptians.*
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*As you can see, dubbing jesus as the Passover lamb was all a pagan probably Roman idea, because no jew would choose that as their God.*
*Add to that 'render on to Cesar' and that Rome is an authority from god, the pagan rite of the eucharist, the trinity which is based on most pagan faiths, the fact that it is written in Greek the lies of Matthew, John, Paul and Stephen, the hatered towards the Jews, the so called 'blindness of the jews'...*
*I dare say it was all done by Rome.*
*Attention*
*Professor Solberg has been lying to you.*
On April 8th 2024, Solberg uploaded a video, in which he deliberately misquoted Deuteronomy 11:28, by putting in a full stop where a comma is, *knowingly taking out the one and only condition for the curse* as presented in that verse - *foreign worship.*
The video is named: *What's "New" About the New Covenant*
The time mark: *03:42** (notice the full stop he placed, and compare to the true text below).*
*Deuteronomy 11*
28 and the curse, if you do not listen to the commandments of the Lord your God, but turn aside from the way which I am commanding you today, [w] *by following other gods which you have not known.*
*People, this is how you have been manipulated by the church and people like Solberg!*
*A faith that is from God does not require lies.*
*Professor Solberg was asked by me several times to retrieve that misquote, or publish a notification about it, he chose not to.*
*Furthermore, Professor Solberg upon reply to me was asked why he did that on three different occasions, he failed to reply till this very day.*
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See how else you were lied to, I believe not many of you are aware of:
*The Messiah making the sacrefices, including sin sacrefices as atonement for HIMSELF (!!) and for the people*
*Ezekiel 45:*
17 And the burnt-offerings and the meal-offerings and the libations on the Festivals and on the New Moons and on the Sabbaths, and on all the times fixed for meetings of the House of Israel shall devolve on the prince; *he shall prepare the sin-offering* and the meal-offering and the burnt offering and the peace-offering, *to effect atonement for the House of Israel.*
22 *And the prince shall make on that day for himself and for all the people of Israel a bull for a sin-offering.*
*Who beguiled you ?? You know the answer - Paul. Paul knew all that, but he also knew the gentiles couldn't read the hebrew. You all fell for it. He couldn't fool us.*
*Why would I choose Paul's words over the words of God through His chosen prophets??*
*That alone debunks Christianity.*
*A faith that is based on lies is not from God.*
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*Explain how can Jesus be an atonement for all sins and 'free of sin' when we know the messiah will sin and make sacrefices for sin! - YOUR ANSWER 🙏🏼*
One must be insanely arrogant to suggest knowing something of a God. It is by boldness, Moses became the world's worst navigator, by having one foot in some fantasyland. There is a fine line between fishing & standing on the shore, looking like an idiot. Fail to get the Jews to buy it for 2000 years & they should know who their Messiah is. Jesus is a fake, to immortalize the war against the Jews. Jesus Christ is crucified for all time in literature & the subjects of Rome are illiterate. Freud wrote, "The antidote to Christianity is literacy" & the joke is in the scriptures. "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, cursed is everyone that hangeth on a tree:" Galatians 3:13
An improvement on your God & faith; would outlaw indoctrination & abuse of the vocabulary of fiction on children.
Reference
CREATING CHRIST - Official Documentary / Rabbi Tovia Singer Destroys Christian Argument on Isaiah 53! Who is the Suffering Servant? / Shocking Proof the Gospels Ripped off the Homeric Epics!! | Dr. Dennis R. MacDonald.
Proof the Gospels Ripped off Homer! Pt. 2 | Dr. Dennis MacDonald
have you been drinking?
Hi, Paz! Personally, I think a better use of your time would be to study the resurrection of Jesus. If He was never resurrected, then most of your accusations about the NT are true. But if He _was_ resurrected, then all of your assumptions about the Tanakh are incomplete, and many are plain wrong. If Jesus was resurrected, it means that your Messiah has already arrived! And He is eager for you to turn to him so that you may have life. Jesus said this about the Hebrew Bible, which was His only Bible while on Earth:
"You examine the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is those very Scriptures that testify about Me; and yet you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life." (John 5:39-40)
Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots
Men making videos, only managing to speak to the choir, pretending faith is respectable,
expecting us all to believe: God made Mormons so Christians would know how Jews feel.
And ignorance of Jesus voiding all His signs by telling them, they are wicked, there is only one sign.
Rabbi Tovia Singer Destroys Christian Argument on Isaiah 53! Who is the Suffering Servant.
Freud wrote, "The antidote to Christianity is literacy."
PROOF that Jesus never existed
ruclips.net/video/5h_nzina1gU/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/xyhv69EFuoM/видео.html&lc=Ugy2Y1hC-DavU6Dr-C14AaABAg.A-XU3locahIA0axmPOQDmI Proof the Roman Government invented Jesus' story - in 12 minutes - @MichaelMenasgotz
@@TheBiblicalRoots
Wow... Aren't you tiered of brining that same argument up when I already showed you Paul made the whole thing up and none of the gospels can be thought of as *'eyewitness account'* as none of the writers were actually even Jews and the first gospel chronologically was that of Mark's dated to at least 37 years after the crucifixion... ???
You are coming of as desperate professor.
*The 'encounter' on the road to Damascus*
A short summary on each🙏🏼
*Acts 9 - The author's account:*
A light flashed around him, he fell, heard a voice, they heard but didn't see, he was blind, they walked him, he was healed.
*Acts 22 - Paul's first account:*
A light flashed around him, he fell, heard a voice, they saw the light but did not hear, he was blind, and wad healed in Damascus by Ananias
*Acts 26 - Paul's second account:*
A light flashed around Paul AND his companions (!) they ALL fell (!) Paul heard a voice talk to him. No mention of a miraculous healing of blindness at all !!
*Can you see the contridictions ?? I'm sorry, but Paul even contridicts himself on three basic details regarding the so called encounter.*
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*Your belief in this as a true account is misplaced !! A miraculous healing of blindness (if indeed there was one..) so easily overlooked?? In the face of Agrippa??*
*The whole story is just another one of Paul's lies, it's so obvious!!*
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Please answer this question:
*Were Elisabeth and Zechariah righteous by the law - yes or no ??*
Luke 1:5-6
5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.
6 ***And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.***
*And don't you try to say that it was through faith unless you have a verse that clearly says this specific couple were righteous through faith.*
*Just a yes or a no answer, thank you.*
*Attention*
*Professor Solberg has been lying to you.*
On April 8th 2024, Solberg uploaded a video, in which he deliberately misquoted Deuteronomy 11:28, by putting in a full stop where a comma is, *knowingly taking out the one and only condition for the curse* as presented in that verse - *foreign worship.*
The video is named: *What's "New" About the New Covenant*
The time mark: *03:42** (notice the full stop he placed, and compare to the true text below).*
*Deuteronomy 11*
28 and the curse, if you do not listen to the commandments of the Lord your God, but turn aside from the way which I am commanding you today, [w] *by following other gods which you have not known.*
*People, this is how you have been manipulated by the church and people like Solberg!*
*A faith that is from God does not require lies.*
*Professor Solberg was asked by me several times to retrieve that misquote, or publish a notification about it, he chose not to.*
*Furthermore, Professor Solberg upon reply to me was asked why he did that on three different occasions, he failed to reply till this very day.*
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See how else you were lied to, I believe not many of you are aware of:
*The Messiah making the sacrefices, including sin sacrefices as atonement for HIMSELF (!!) and for the people*
*Ezekiel 45:*
17 And the burnt-offerings and the meal-offerings and the libations on the Festivals and on the New Moons and on the Sabbaths, and on all the times fixed for meetings of the House of Israel shall devolve on the prince; *he shall prepare the sin-offering* and the meal-offering and the burnt offering and the peace-offering, *to effect atonement for the House of Israel.*
22 *And the prince shall make on that day for himself and for all the people of Israel a bull for a sin-offering.*
*Who beguiled you ?? You know the answer - Paul. Paul knew all that, but he also knew the gentiles couldn't read the hebrew. You all fell for it. He couldn't fool us.*
*Why would I choose Paul's words over the words of God through His chosen prophets??*
*That alone debunks Christianity.*
*A faith that is based on lies is not from God.*
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*Explain how can Jesus be an atonement for all sins and 'free of sin' when we know the messiah will sin and make sacrefices for sin! - YOUR ANSWER 🙏🏼*
stay off the pipe
@@salpezzino7803
If you knew the Hebrew the Tanach is written in you could not be fooled.
@@pazrahamim9220 I know it better than you, God taught me, The Word is folly to those like yourself --- dead
Hi, Paz! Personally, I think a better use of your time would be to study the resurrection of Jesus. If He was never resurrected, then most of your accusations about the NT are true. But if He _was_ resurrected, then all of your assumptions about the Tanakh are incomplete, and many are plain wrong. If Jesus was resurrected, it means that your Messiah has already arrived! And He is eager for you to turn to him so that you may have life. Jesus said this about the Hebrew Bible, which was His only Bible while on Earth:
"You examine the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is those very Scriptures that testify about Me; and yet you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life." (John 5:39-40)
Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots
Wow... Aren't you tiered of brining that same argument up when I already showed you Paul made the whole thing up and none of the gospels can be thought of as *'eyewitness account'* as none of the writers were actually even Jews and the first gospel chronologically was that of Mark's dated to at least 37 years after the crucifixion... ???
You are coming of as desperate professor.
*The 'encounter' on the road to Damascus*
A short summary on each🙏🏼
*Acts 9 - The author's account:*
A light flashed around him, he fell, heard a voice, they heard but didn't see, he was blind, they walked him, he was healed.
*Acts 22 - Paul's first account:*
A light flashed around him, he fell, heard a voice, they saw the light but did not hear, he was blind, and wad healed in Damascus by Ananias
*Acts 26 - Paul's second account:*
A light flashed around Paul AND his companions (!) they ALL fell (!) Paul heard a voice talk to him. No mention of a miraculous healing of blindness at all !!
*Can you see the contridictions ?? I'm sorry, but Paul even contridicts himself on three basic details regarding the so called encounter.*
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*Your belief in this as a true account is misplaced !! A miraculous healing of blindness (if indeed there was one..) so easily overlooked?? In the face of Agrippa??*
*The whole story is just another one of Paul's lies, it's so obvious!!*
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Please answer this question:
*Were Elisabeth and Zechariah righteous by the law - yes or no ??*
Luke 1:5-6
5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.
6 ***And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.***
*And don't you try to say that it was through faith unless you have a verse that clearly says this specific couple were righteous through faith.*
*Just a yes or a no answer, thank you.*
*Attention*
*Professor Solberg has been lying to you.*
On April 8th 2024, Solberg uploaded a video, in which he deliberately misquoted Deuteronomy 11:28, by putting in a full stop where a comma is, *knowingly taking out the one and only condition for the curse* as presented in that verse - *foreign worship.*
The video is named: *What's "New" About the New Covenant*
The time mark: *03:42** (notice the full stop he placed, and compare to the true text below).*
*Deuteronomy 11*
28 and the curse, if you do not listen to the commandments of the Lord your God, but turn aside from the way which I am commanding you today, [w] *by following other gods which you have not known.*
*People, this is how you have been manipulated by the church and people like Solberg!*
*A faith that is from God does not require lies.*
*Professor Solberg was asked by me several times to retrieve that misquote, or publish a notification about it, he chose not to.*
*Furthermore, Professor Solberg upon reply to me was asked why he did that on three different occasions, he failed to reply till this very day.*
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See how else you were lied to, I believe not many of you are aware of:
*The Messiah making the sacrefices, including sin sacrefices as atonement for HIMSELF (!!) and for the people*
*Ezekiel 45:*
17 And the burnt-offerings and the meal-offerings and the libations on the Festivals and on the New Moons and on the Sabbaths, and on all the times fixed for meetings of the House of Israel shall devolve on the prince; *he shall prepare the sin-offering* and the meal-offering and the burnt offering and the peace-offering, *to effect atonement for the House of Israel.*
22 *And the prince shall make on that day for himself and for all the people of Israel a bull for a sin-offering.*
*Who beguiled you ?? You know the answer - Paul. Paul knew all that, but he also knew the gentiles couldn't read the hebrew. You all fell for it. He couldn't fool us.*
*Why would I choose Paul's words over the words of God through His chosen prophets??*
*That alone debunks Christianity.*
*A faith that is based on lies is not from God.*
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*Explain how can Jesus be an atonement for all sins and 'free of sin' when we know the messiah will sin and make sacrefices for sin! - YOUR ANSWER 🙏🏼*
Shame on you: for suggesting we all travel better with one foot in a Christian fantasyland. Rome won the war of the Jews, so you are reading their fiction, Roman propaganda mocking Jews.
have we dated?
I am alittle puzzled by your questions but I want to point out two things to you.
First According to the book of Daniel the messiah had to live and die at the time of the second temple.
Daniel 9:25-26
The second temple was destroyed about 70 AD
So clearly the messiah already came.
Secondly the high priest offered sacrifices for his sin and then everyone elses , not the messiah.
The messiah is SINLESS.
@@Jazbo777
*See how you were all fooled:*
*The messiah will be a king, a man, who will have children, an inheritance, who will worship God and who will have sin like anyone else for which he will offer sin sacrefices on behalf of HIMSELF (!!) and of the peopl as you were shown..*
*Ezekiel 45:*
8 In the land, *he shall have it for a possession in Israel,* and My princes shall no longer defraud My people, and the land they shall give to the House of Israel to their tribes.
*Ezekiel 46:*
2 And the prince shall enter by way of the vestibule of the gate without, and he shall stand at the doorpost of the gate, and the priests shall offer his burnt-offering and his peace-offering, and *he shall prostrate* himself at the threshold of the gate, and go out, but the gate shall not be closed until the evening.
16 So says the Lord God: If the prince give a gift to any of *his sons,* it is *his inheritance and remains in his sons' possession; it is their property by inheritance.*
17 But if he gives a gift of his inheritance to one of his servants, then it shall be his until the year of liberty, and then it comes back to the prince; *only to his sons shall his inheritance belong.*
18 But the prince may not take of the people's inheritance to force them out of their possessions, *only from his own possessions shall he give his sons inheritance,* so that My people not be scattered each man from his inheritance.
*Christianity is just a lie, I'm sorry.*
*You were all had by Paul who knew the gentiles couldn't read the Hebrew of the original text.*
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Proof that 'the prince' in Ezekiel is the messiah to come'.
The verses regarding the prince, the messiah:
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וַאֲנִ֣י יְהוָ֗ה אֶהְיֶ֤ה לָהֶם֙ לֵֽאלֹהִ֔ים *וְעַבְדִּ֥י דָוִ֖ד נָשִׂ֣יא* בְתוֹכָ֑ם אֲנִ֥י יְהוָ֖ה דִּבַּֽרְתִּי׃
And I the Lord will be their God, *and my servant David a prince among them;* I the Lord have spoken it. *Ezekiel 34:24*
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וְיָשְׁב֣וּ עַל־הָאָ֗רֶץ אֲשֶׁ֤ר נָתַ֨תִּי֙ לְעַבְדִּ֣י לְיַֽעֲקֹ֔ב אֲשֶׁ֥ר יָֽשְׁבוּ־בָ֖הּ אֲבֽוֹתֵיכֶ֑ם וְיָשְׁב֣וּ עָלֶ֡יהָ הֵ֠מָּה וּבְנֵיהֶ֞ם וּבְנֵ֤י בְנֵיהֶם֙ עַד־עוֹלָ֔ם *וְדָוִ֣ד עַבְדִּ֔י נָשִׂ֥יא לָהֶ֖ם לְעוֹלָֽם׃*
And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: *and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.* *Ezekiel 37:25*
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*Daniel 9*
*We need to remember what it is that Daniel was trying to figure out: when will the exile end. When the angel Gabriel came, he gave him the answer to that and what would happen from that point onwards.*
The first verse tells us that the Babylonian empire was gone. He was sure that by this time the exile would end.
Jeremiah 25:12
And it shall come to pass, when seventy years are accomplished, that I will punish the king of Babylon, and that nation, saith the Lord, for their iniquity, and the land of the Chaldeans, and will make it perpetual desolations.
Which resembels:
Jeremiah 29:10
10 This is what the Lord says: “When seventy years are completed for Babylon, I will come to you and fulfill my good promise to bring you back to this place.
Both seem to be predicting the same thing, but the first speaks of the end of the Babylonian empire and only the second speaks of the return of the jews and this is why Daniel was so alarmed as he thought the date was fulfilled but because of sins in the exile God would punish them 7 times over =490 years - AKA - the curse in leviticus:
Leviticus 26:18:
And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.
Don't you think if this prophecy spoke about Jesus's death the NT would say that??
In every place else in the translations the word *an anoited* is placed, other than this chapter, where it is translated as Messiah and capitalized, though there is no capitalizing in Hebrew (!) and though it should be *an anointed* as all other places.
The Hebrew text says *"an anointed"* and not *"the anointed".*
By the way, the true final messiah is never referred to as 'the messiah', but as 'the prince'(see Ezekiel).
*Another problem - Why doesn't the book of Ezra which comports with the prophecy of Daniel about Cyrus follow the book of Daniel as it does in the OT ?? the church changed the order of the books, to fit its narrative.
*There are two anointed in this chapter:*
The first is *Cyrus* who is God's anointed, a prince, who will come 7 shavuim (49 years) after the destruction of the first temple, as described in Isaiah 45:1.
The second is will come after 62 shavuim, who is not a prince, but a high priest (priests were also anoited).
There is a difference in Hebrew between *shavuim* שבועים *(the agreculteral 7 years cycles)* and *shavuot* שבועות *(weeks).*
*The text uses 'SHAVUIM'.*
*Here's the math according to jewish count:*
Year 3339 the first temple is destroyed.
Year 3409 the second temple is built due to Cyrus (Koresh) who was thought to be an earthly saviour (by Isaiah).
Between them 70 years = 10 agreecultural cycles.
Year 3829 The destruction of the second temple.
Between the destructions 490 Aka 70 cycles.
62 cycles (434 years)from the rebuilding of the second temple = 3843.
Year 3843 the year that the anointed one (last high priest) parished and his sons did not enherit the priesthood = approximately 82 AD.
*Explanation about verses 24-27:*
24: "to make ends of sin" - for only in state of purity can the second temple be built and the sacrificial system renewed (the sacrefices for unintentional transgressions, but one must also repent)
25: jerusalem will be starting its rebuilding 49 years after Koresh (Cyrus).
26 Messiah shall be cut off - in the hebrew it says - "an anointed one (the high priest) shall parish and there was non other" (JC was never anointed, nor as king, nor as priest) see as a continuation of 24, where the Holly of hollies (the Dvir) was anointed as part of the priestly duties.
27: within three and a half years the high priest will no longer preform sacrificial rituals.
*That is not a prophecy about JC but a prophecy about the end of the priesthood*
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*Now please answer what I already asked:*
*Explain how can Jesus be an atonement for all sins and 'free of sin' when we know the messiah will sin and make sacrefices for sin!! - YOUR ANSWER!*
You like spamming the comments section. You must be an acolyte of Tovia Singer.
The rabbinic Judism in current year is lacking because there is no temple in Jerusalem and has not been since 70AD.