Grafted Into What? Jews, Gentiles & Israel
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- Опубликовано: 14 июн 2024
- Many of our Hebrew Roots friends claim that believers in Jesus are “grafted into Israel,” or have been made citizens in the commonwealth of Israel. One teacher says, “We’re not Christians, we’re not Jews, we are Israel.” Many Torah-keepers claim that once you come to faith in Jesus, you’re no longer a Gentile. This is a topic that breeds a lot of confusion. What are we grafted into? What does it mean to say "we are Israel'? In this video, we untangle this issue and try to gain some clarity on what it means for believers in Jesus to be grafted in. And we do so by tracing the evolution of the name “Israel” in the Bible,. Because we need to use Scripture’s definition of that word, not our own.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
00:37 The name "Israel" in the Torah
09:59 Israel in the New Testament
26:47 What are we grafted into?
33:01 Wrap it up, Professor.
Found you through the debate with Singer. I feel like teaching comes natural to you and it’s very easy to listen. Thanks.
He has the Gift of Teaching no doubt.
I've been on a Christian path, attending Catholic Mass, after living my life of 40 years with no religion, but i have always believed in Jesus. My mind is blown over here. I am thankful I found your channel I'm learning so much.
Praise the Lord! Have you been born again?
What do you see as the purpose of attending the Catholic Mass? Are you reading the Bible?
@@dotero1817 Are you reading any book other than the Bible?
@@billyhw5492 the Bible is the standard and the filter through which all other books I read are measured. I don't live my life based on anything other than Scripture. Why do you ask?
@@heather602Born again, into the Family structure!
YAHisrael, meaning
YAHs Peoples
idk how i didn't put two and two together before, but this brings a new depth to my understanding of all the "in Christ" identity declarations in Galatians and Ephesians.
thank you much, sir!
Thank you Rob, great teaching .And thanking God for your ministry. Very needed and helpful
Thank you so much . The video is a blessing and learned so much❤
Hi Dr. Solberg, When can we expect a 3rd edition of your book Torahism?
Hello I'm listening to your podcast and my wife and I are really being blessed so very helpful to be able to understand clearly what before I was only able to partially grasp thanks may God richly Bless and Keep y'all in Christ Jesus Name AMEN 🙏😇🙌
Bible can be confusing, it is not an easy read.. but your teachings are so accurate and easily understandable. I love that your videos has reasonable length to adress everything, because it' needed. It makes it complete and not just a "here is a 5min video, believe me" approach. You Sir, are really a gem. God bless you brother.
God has surely gifted you with the ability to teach. I learn so much from you!
Thank you so much, Katie! To God be the glory!
Rob
I enjoyed this teaching so much. I haven't heard or read anything exactly the way you present it. Thank You
Thanks, Norman!
Blessings, Rob
This is VERY good teaching that explores what can be a confusing subject for many. I really appreciate all the hard work you have obviously put into this accomplished lecture. Recommended.
Thank you for a very clear teaching,
Test everything they say
We have been grafted into the commonwealth of Israel Ephesians 2
Thank you for this great video. You helped me understand a lot of things in the bible. I just wanted to ask, can you make a video explanation about dispensationalism. I would like to know your thoughts about dispensationalism and about the idea that we are under the dispensation of grace (Ephesians 3) do you agree with it or not if possible can you also put a bible verse together with your explanation. Can you also explain this verse in 2Timothy 2:15 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth" KJV. Thank you for reading this, i would love to hear your thoughts about it. God bless you and your family!
Hello, Maeannnaya! I may do a video on dispensationalism at some point. I am not a dispensationalist. As I understand it, dispensationalism has two primary distinctives: #1 a consistently literal interpretation of Scripture, especially Bible prophecy, which I see leading to a number of problems in interpretation. #2 a view of Israel as separate from the Church in God’s program, and I don't believe the Bible teaches the idea of two peoples of God at all. I believe there is one people of God and thus continuity between the people of God in the Old Testament and the people of God in the New Testament. The Church does not replace Israel, it is an organic continuation of the Old Testament people of God.
Blessings,
Rob
Thank you Rob, your teaching is useful for me. I just joint your channel but they are God's blessing for us as true christians.
Thank you, Eduardo! I'm glad you found us.
Blessings, Rob
In Christ means we came from his heart and back into his heart we will go, Amen, thank you, Lord ❤
Also worth noting that Ephraim and Manassah were half gentile, being half Egyptian.
Boaz and Ruth? Ruth was a moabite. Thru these 2 comes the line of David.
@@astutik8909 Yes :)
According to Jewish writings, Joseph's wife was a Jewish relative. Her mother was Dina, Jacobs daughter. Dinas brothers killed the father
@@h.pretorius1520 Hi, I try to rely on the word of God as much as possible. There is no record that I can find in scripture to confirm the claim of the jewish writings you cite.
It was confusing to me when I first saw this in scripture. However, the mosaic law was given later, so Joseph hadn't broken any laws, nor did God forbid the marriage.
Perhaps God used Ephraim and Manassah as a foreshadowing of Christ later being a light to the gentiles?
@@heather602 there was always provision for the gentiles who dwelt with Israel.
There was one law for both.
Good Explaint. Blessings.Do you beliefe like the truth Christians in the Pretribulation Rapture?
Thank you Rob for your excellent teaching again keep up the good work
Test everything they say
@@Kozmo-Kamuy yes I have and Rob is 100% correct 😉
@darrengarvie8832 then your not testing to the Berean standard.
Thanks very. I began to listen to you dubious and suspicious, expecting. Turns out that biblically you're spot on and I'll now watch some more of your podcasts. Not enough of this on RUclips.
A prime example of the regurgitation of Christian doctrine, living Lawless….
Thank you Prof. Solberg. Truly a brilliant exposition, which should clear up the misunderstandings of Paul's words. "And so, all Israel shall be saved". Both Jew, and gentile believers in Christ - the Israel of God. Grafting in also ties in with Ez 47:22,23, and Rev21:12, 22:14. May the Lord continue to bless you, with increased knowledge and wisdom.
@MILKEBECK2484
ROMANS 11:1-7,25-28 , " 1.I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,
3Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
6And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
7What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded .
25.For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
MILKBECK2484 , WHO IS THE COVENANT WITH ?
JEREMIAH 31:31-36 , " 31.Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
35Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
36If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
HEBREWS 8:6-10 , " 6.But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
7For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
8For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
IF THE SUN IS STILL A LIGHT BY DAY , AND THE MOON AND STATRS A LIGHT BY NIGHT ; THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL IS STILL A NATION BEFORE THE GOD OF ISRAEL .
BELIEVING GENTILES ARE GRAFTED INTO THE COVENANT OF ISRAEL ; NOT UNDER THE LAWS OF THE FATHER , BUT UNDER THE LAWS OF CHRIST ; WHICH ARE THE SAME LAWS OF THE FATHER ( DEUTERONOMY 18:15-19 ) .
ACTS 10:34-36 , " 34.Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
36The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:
THE GOD OF ISRAEL HAST ALWAYS ACCEPTED THE GENTILES/STRANGERS , WHO LIVE BY FAITH ; JUST AS HE ACCEPTS THE ISRAELITES WHO LIVE BY FAITH .
EXODUS 12:49 , " 49.One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.
BUT ISRAEL IS THE ONLY NATION ( FAMILY OF PEOPLE ) HE HAST MADE A COVENANT WITH TO KEEP HIS LAWS .
AS A PARENT YOU HAVE THE KIDS OF YOUR SEED THAT DO WHAT IS RIGHT ; ALSO THE KID NOT OF YOUR SEED , DOWN THE STREET , WHO DO THE THINGS THAT ARE RIGHT .
YOUR KID STAY WITH YOU , BUT THE KID DOWN THE STREET CAN VISIT YOU AT ANYTIME ; BUT THEY ALREADY HAVE A HOME TO LIVE.
THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL ARE GOD'S INHERITANCE ; WHICH MEANS THAT HE WILL LIVE IN THE MIDST OF THE ONE'S THAT DO RIGHT FOREEVER ; AND THE GENTILES WHICH RECEIVED THEIR INHERITANCE IN GENESIS 10 , WILL LIVE IN THEIR OWN LAND , BUT HAST THE RIGHT TO VISIT NEW JERUSALEM AT ANYTIME .
ONLY THE BELIEVING GENTILES/STRANGERS ,THAT GO TO THE LAND OF ISRAEL DURING THE 1000 YEAR REIGN OF CHRIST KINGDOM , WILL LIVE IN NEW JERUSALEM , IN THE FATHER'S KINGDOM . THEY WILL BECOME PART OF WHATSOEVER TRIBE THEY SOJOURNETH WITH ( EZEKIEL 47 ) .
ZECHARIAH 8:23 , 23.Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.
ISAIAH 14:1-2 , 1.For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.
2.And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.
SHALOM !
@@messengerisrael3817 Zechariah 8:23 was fulfilled long ago. Read the book of Acts.
@@messengerisrael3817kjv DEUTERONOMY 7:3,DEUTERONOMY 23:2,EZRA 9:2,
Grafting in@EZEKIEL 37:19PER JEREMIAH 31:31-33,HEBREWS 8:8-10@[ye were once GENTILES[ 1CORINTHIANS 22:2-4] VS GEN[E]TILES: BOOK OF GENESIS TABLE OF NATIONS!!![MACCABEES 1,3:48-51]"R-O-M-A-N REPLACEMENT THIEFOLOGY CHURCHIANITY!!!
I love the Holy Bible. And it's good to learn more about the Jews, the Thora and the New Covenant in the Lord Jesus Christ. Thank you so much
Appreciate the study it is helpful and clarifying. One side I am sure that will be brought up is how in Old Testament times there where people like Ruth and Rahab who joined Israel. However, it seems clear that the framework Paul is using he is not trying to use those examples in his illustration. Instead he looks to be using the status in general.
Appreciate the lesson it truly helps break this down and make it understandable.
Jesus said in John 15 that He is the True Vine and we are the branches.
Superb!
Great stuff for refuting Hebrew roots, would love to hear you elaborate on this though, because one thing I get confused about is the role of the Abrahamic promise in light of the new covenant. Dispensationalists almost make it sound like there is a distinct gospel/kingdom message based on ethnicity.
Also, Esther mentions many gentile coverts to the Hebrew religion, so how is the mosaic covenant only ethnic?
This is a comment that I wrote, it somewhat answers your question about the abrahamic promise in the New Covenant: "Well yeah, Yeshua Jesus is from Judah and we are grafted into that, "we are bone of his bones and flesh of his flesh" even the promise of the Holy Spirit is the blessing and promise of Abraham, who begat Issac, Jacob, who was named Israel, yes we are grafted into Israel in these standards, if people are not a partaker of the Blessing of Abraham (Holy Spirit), then they are not even Saved in salvation, All This came through Israel and that's what we are grafted into by faith. Whether people think or believe in this Or not, by virtue of having faith in Jesus, Believers are grafted into Israel because Israel is the origin of Jesus, Romans 11 says Israel is the olive tree, Gentiles are wild branches grafted into it, however I do Not subscribe to Hebrew roots doctrines that try to put us back under the law, or (no) legalism, or (no) modern Judaizers, but I believe that we as Believers are "Spiritual Jews" in the sense that we obey the commandments of Jehovah Heavenly Father as it applies to the New Covenant, including the ten commandments as Apostle Paul mentions in his New Testament letter."
@@KingdomCarrier9 how long do you have until you have to go back to the Psychiatric Center?
I've been trying to figure out if the New Covenant is the Abrahamic Covenant fulfilled? Or is the New Covenant in addition to the Abrahamic Covenant, running alongside in the same way that the Mosaic Covenant once ran alongside the Abrahamic? 🤔
@kimartist I think the Abrahamic Covenant was partly fulfilled on Pentecost in Acts chapter 2 when God poured out the Holy Spirit in the Apostles, because that's the blessing of Abraham, the other part of the promise made to Abraham is still in process of being fulfilled, God will make Abraham's descendents as numerous as the stars, this is the global born again Christians church that will increase in number until Jesus returns, it's still in process but the New Covenant is God's program right now since 1st century AD
@@KingdomCarrier9 Yes I can pretty much agree with most of that - perhaps think a bit bigger picture on the blessing part - but I'm still trying to work out if New/Abrahamic are the same, or separate? Because in so many ways it seems like the Abrahamic covenant was the outline & the New Covenant is the Abrahamic Covenant fleshed out with new commands ("love one another"), practices (eg. baptism, communion, etc.) & "big picture" game plans (eg. Matthew 24, 1 & 2 Thessalonians, Revelation).
Thank you!
Hasn't it always been by faith though? Abraham was justified by faith, as was Noah, Rahab, David, and so many others in the old testament and listed in the book of Hebrews.
Even Moses was disciplined for not believing God's word about speaking to the rock.
Technically we could argue that Adam and Eve transgressed through lack of faith in God's warning. They chose to believe the serpent.
The book of Hebrews teaches that the Israelites could not enter in because of unbelief.
From the time of Adam and Eve until the death, burial and resurrection of Christ, man was under the dispensation of faith + works. We are currently under the dispensation of grace which only requires our faith in what Christ did on the cross.
When the Tribulation begins, the grace period ends and the world returns to the dispensation of faith + works for salvation.
@@B0SS330 I do not ascribe to dispensationalism, nor do I find it biblical.
@@B0SS330 NO, Faith without Works is Death. Faith alone is Man`s False teaching, Good fruits is good works they go together. Dispensation is another false teaching, No such thing, There were mysteries that were revealed but YHVH has treated his People the same throughout time. PERIOD
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. Dispensation is a Doctrine of devils
Jas 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
Jas 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Jas 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
Jas 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
Jas 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
Jas 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
Jas 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
Jas 2:25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
Jas 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
There has always been faith with works always has been always will be......
You are correct. It has always been by faith. Idk why everyone struggles so much with this... It's even clarified in the new testament. But true faith is evidenced by works (which we all know to be true). People just don't want to feel like they have any responsibility and it leads to backsliding and confusion.
@@charitybrook6279 during the time of Adam and Eve, they were instructed not to "eat" from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. This is "works" based on your faith.
During Old Testament times, the Israelites were required to keep the Law as part of their faith in God.
During the New Testament times (now), we are only required to have faith in what Christ did for us (His works) for salvation.
And when the Tribulation begins, the entire world will know that Christ is the Son of God, so faith won't mean much at that point, but your works (being willing to die for Christ) will matter.
Ephesians 2
8 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:"
9 "Not of works, lest any man should boast."
Thank you
Wonderful job! Great clarity provided here. I tell everyone who asks that I'm ethnically Jewish (by blood and heritage), and Christian by faith - meaning that I follow the Christos, which is just Greek for Messiah. :) I am a Jewish Christian who follows Christian Judaism. And I really appreciate your ministry and work. You're doing much needed work, Rob. Thank you. (By the way, you met my boss at a conference. I work for Discovering the Jewish Jesus).
Thanks, Jachin! Great to "meet" you.
Shalom, Rob
Hi brother (or sister). I am curious to know what is Christian Judaism? Thank you for your reply. Blessings to you.
Thank you for this video. Is there any scholarly work on block logic vs linear logic? And are there resources to go deeper?
Hi, Isaiah. Yes, there is a wealth of scholarship on these cultural differences. Here are a few:
_Behind the Scenes of the Old Testament_ (Greer, Hilber, and Walton)
_The Bible Among the Myths_ (Oswalt)
_Against the Gods_ (Currid)
_Ancient Near Eastern Themes in Biblical Theology_ (Niehaus)
_Old Testament Parallels_ (Matthews and Benjamin)
_Misreading Scripture with Western Eyes_ (Richards and O/Brien)
_Rediscovering Israel_ (McLelland)
Blessings, Rob
Thank you@@TheBiblicalRoots
Thanks!
Thank you, Michael! Bless you, brother.
Rob
Robert Solberg, would you denounce salpezzino statement? Yes or no?
We are grafted into Christ.
Thank you for somebody who used to be part of the Hebrew roots I really appreciate your videos.
That really clicked call scripturally Jews and gentiles all throughout the New Testament We Are One family in Christ (the Israel of God) .
But Jews and gentiles, being that the gentiles are grafted in they are not required to keep Israel's laws. We are just grafted into the people by Faith in Jesus Christ.
Often Hebrew roots to say that the law say because the law is in our heart we are obligated to keep the law. The law that was written on Stone was the ten Commandments that is what's on our heart. In the newness of the spirit not the oldness of the letter.
Do you by chance have a video on Ezekiel 36 the scripture I will put my spirit within you cause you to keep my law I would like to learn contacts on this one ?
Wow, congratulations. Rarely have I seen a video that has brought out such a mixture of groups. I see Black Hebrew Israelites, the Hebrew Roots people, an Orthodox Jew, and other weird mixtures, even a little Supersessionism thrown in there. I even saw someone say Heavenly Father which is shades of mormonism. There might even be a few KJV-onlists here as well. Well done. Lol
As someone who came back to a church after a 13 year backslide in 2012 to a church that was in the cage-stage of the Young Restless Reformed movement (I didn't know what Calvinism even was having previously been Mormon/Nazarene growing up, it's a long story), I appreciate not hearing Calvinism in your Romans 9 breakdown. I was weary of your channel at first, because, unfortunately, most theology channels are just You Restless and Re.....Really full of themselves disciples. Not going to go into it, but there's a lot of bad memories for me associated with Neo-Calvinism.
Granted I do disagree a little with your take on the Romans 9: 6-8, but I can appreciate a different take on the passage, and glean good information from your take on it. I am one of those who can learn from people I disagree with. I don't think it was Paul saying God was doing something new, but it was Paul answering the question to the Jewish believers in the audience as to why it appears the Word of God had failed, and why a large portion of them missed the Messiah. Pointing to the fact that the Word had not failed, but even in the past, not everyone who was a natural son was a spiritual son. That's just my take on it, but I do appreciate your take on it. I like hearing different views that aren't just Calvinist eisegesis. My take on the grafting in is similar to yours though. I guess grafted into spiritual Israel, or as you say, the believing family. I think believing family is a good term to use from now on, because Spiritual Israel can bring people on either sides to the debate (Hebrew Roots or Replacement Theology people) **Edit** I watched it again, I have a clearer understanding of what you are saying. I guess I don't disagree with your take on it as much as I first thought.
I must say, unfortunately for me, members of my family have fallen deep into the Hebrew Roots stuff to the point that they moved to a state where a popular RUclipsr who runs a homestead channel and is Hebrew Roots lives. He teaches Hebrew Roots. If you ever gt a chance, check out Zachary Bauer on youtube. My family is not the only to make the journey. A lot of people have moved to be closer to “the prophet” as I call him. It reminds me of the Mormon song “Follow the Prophet.” eck! Most the people my family knows in this “Torah People” movement came from the Nazarene Church which is a church that barely teaches any theology despite claiming Tozer as one of theirs. They were so susceptible to being pulled astray because the Nazarene Church doesn't teach anything. It's like how covert Calvinists are infiltrating SBC churches because a lot of Southern Baptists don't teach a lot of meat either, so they fall prey to smooth-talking covert Calvinists.
I can't talk to my family about it either. They are so pulled into it. Most of them to the point of calling regular Christians pagans and unbelievers. I started studying Jewish Roots before I came back to chuch in 2012, and I delved a lot deeper into the topic than anyone in my family. I did get a lot of depth from a lot of the teaching, like seeing how the Feasts point to Christ. Reading more levelheaded authors like Michael Brown, and then getting a hunger to read more theology in general from all different authors from all different denominational backgrounds kept me from going cage stage Messianic Jew. I've since backed way off of it thanks to further study. I still appreciate the Jewish background of Christianity. Knowing the customs of the day in particular brings a lot more depth to the New Testament.
It was also helpful, and later painful, attending a Calvinist Baptist Church where I would interact with believers I genuinely came to disagree with. In reading those “recommended reading” books from a Messianic Jewish Synagog drove me to read a lot more theology in general, and eventually gave me the tools to understand and dismantle the claims of Calvin, and helped me in discerning various teaching when I hear them woven into sermons. I've definitely learned grace with people I disagree with, even if most of them would never show it back (I'm either a pagan or a heretic I guess). I've moved out to my family because I was struggling in AZ where I previously was, and I was kept away from talking to them about it. There are some I can't tell anything to at all. It's become so deeply intertwined in them, and a pagan like me isn't allowed to talk about it. I don't know what to do anymore. My mom is still Mormon, my brother and sister are Hebrew Roots, one of my other siblings who doesn't live here is a Rob Bell fan. I'm the youngest and no one listens to me anyway. I appreciate what you are doing. Keep up the good fight against the Hebrew Roots theology. Keep helping shine light on it and bring more people out of it. I don't know what to do other than pray, and I'm so defeated in my prayers anyway.
Thanks, Nobody! Like you, I am one who regularly learns from people I disagree with. I appreciate you sharing your story. And I certainly understand your frustration about your family members. Sometimes prayer is all we have, but it is a mighty weapon! I've found that presenting a biblical case to our family and friends does eventually add up over time, especially if it's shared in love and bathed in prayer. So my advice is to love them, pray for them, but hold your ground biblically.
BTW I am familiar with Zackery Bauer. I did a short video on one of his teachings a while back: ruclips.net/video/9do4b7uQiIk/видео.html. I've not looked as his recent stuff, though. Maybe I should!
Blessings, Rob
A lot of the things you mention sound similiar to my walk. I just want to encourage you to keep seeking truth and keep testing all things without compromise. It can get lonely because its difficult to find a church that isn't lukewarm or compromised. I believe the Lord has been nudging me of late that we are in the times of itching ears when many will not endure sound doctrine. Nevertheless we must fight the good fight of faith. I'm still waiting for my husband and family to be saved. I was saved 10 years ago but Jesus really has removed a lot of the pain of loneliness while still having freedom to continue to lift them all up in prayer.
Keep praying for your family. I will pray for you tonight that the Lord will lead you to a sound church and at least one faithful Christian friend. ✝️
@@heather602 Thank you for your prayers
Proverbs 28.9
One who turns his ear from hearing Torah-even his prayer is an abomination.
The wisdom of God through King Solomon
It’s also said in the New Testament
Jhn 9:31 We know that God doesn’t listen to sinners; but if anyone fears Him and does His will, He hears this one.
Psa 40:8 I delight to do your will, O my God; your law is within my heart.”
Mat 7:21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
Mat 7:22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’
Mat 7:23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
Shalom I enjoyed your story maybe one day you’d like a zoom call and we can share our thoughts
@BiblersWayCottage
I have not problem if you think God has laid it on your heart to observe kosher eating. I have a problem when people take what God has laid in their hearts, and make it the law for everyone else. It's a manipulative way to get everyone to do what you think they should do, and get everyone else to imitate you instead of obeying God. The problem is when you make it a rule at which to judge other for, and a means at which to be "morally superior" over another believer. Outward expressions don't mean anything to God, and from what I can tell, most Hebrew Roots people are only pushing Torah as a means of being better than other believers, and it makes your definition of being a believer the only definition available. Who are you to tell God who are His followers and who aren't based on outward expressions. I take it you don't have a very strong theological background, or a very good understanding of God.
Torah=God's teaching or instruction, or as translated into a concept in the Septuagint as Nomos or law. That's the Hebrew concept of God's teaching/Instruction. The Torah was not only ceremonial in nature to symbolize holiness, it was also the national constitution of ancient Israel (if you observe Torah, and aren't stoning your unruly kids, witches, or blasphemers, then by your own definition are a sinner and God will not hear your prayers either). There was a distinction between the Moral law/teaching/instruction from God and the ceremonial/Civil laws . Again, do you wear clothes mixed with wool or linen? Do you have a garden or a field where you grow more than one-type of plant? Are you circumcised? If you don't do everything in the Torah as commanded, which is established in the B'rit Hadasha is impossible for any of us to do, then you are every bit a sinner as you accuse others of being.
I'm just wondering, if, in your definition of not following the Torah makes everyone else a sinner who will be cast into hell, what commands can you pick and choose personally? If you aren't stoning people to death, then you're a horrible sinner who isn't observing Torah. My problem is that, within the Hebrew Roots Movement, you all still pick and choose those Torah commands you want to follow or don't want to. You say there is no such difference as the ceremonial laws and the moral laws, so why is there a difference between those civil laws, and other laws?
But let me also ask you this, are you obeying the great commission better than all those supposedly "pagan" churches out there? You know, the BIGGEST command Yeshua gave. Are out there proclaiming the name of Yeshua? Or are you out there proclaiming Torah. Show me how anyone in the Hebrew Roots movement is obeying the commission in any meaningful way. None of you are. Instead you are separating yourselves thinking you are somehow morally superior to everyone else because you follow a couple Kosher laws, and then go out on your feasts where you all camp out on someone else's land, and get drunk for a week. Thank God you aren't like the rest of us poor sinners who eat pork, but still obey the commands of Yeshua better than any of you ever well. I like the way the Baptist church down the road keeps the great commission better than the way everyone on the Hebrew Roots movement doesn't. Your fruit is rotten. You're over here arguing as to whether or not someone should have a beard or not while Pentecostal/Baptist missionaries are putting their lives on the line to proclaim the name of Jesus, and bring the gospel to the ends of the earth AS COMMANDED TO DO!
Basically, I see a group of people who just want some moral high ground over other believers. A lot of you have been hurt in the churches you came from, and you just have to find a way to declare everyone who hurt you as unbelievers, and now you have the "restored gospel," like Joseph Smith claimed, with which to declare everyone who disagrees with you is a nonbeliever. Just remember, you become what you judge.
What do you make of it in 1 Corinthians 7:18-20 when Paul says:
18 Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised.
19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
20 Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called.
I know you focus on the "Obey the Commandments of God" part, but Paul is saying, if you were ethnically Jewish, remain Ethnically Jewish, but if you were Goyim remain Goyim. The point way that God wants people of every tribe, every tongue and every nation to worship Him.
Acts 15 has an entire Council on the matter of gentile believers. instead of saying people need to be circumcized in order to be saved, you have shifted the goal posts and have made it "You have to observe Torah in order to be saved." You are majoring in the minors and causing divisions over things that really don't matter. God looks at the heart.
What does Jacob/James say after he says "Faith without works is dead?" My rough paraphrase he says: You show me your works apart from your faith, and I will show you my faith through my works. Hebrew Roots people that have made torah observance a salvific issue. Sincere faith will produce sincere works, and the works Jacob mentions are not Torah observance. They are the "I desire mercy, not sacrifice" works.
You are trusting in your own self-righteousness to save you, while casting stones as other believers (Who are you to judge another man's servant?) for things that don't matter at all in regards to salvation. My problem is you say it's not a salvation issue, yet for you, it's a salvation issue. The movement hasn't produced the fruits of the spirit, it doesn't obey the commission (preaching Torah instead of Yeshua). You can know the word of God back to front, but if you don't know the God of the Word, you're in trouble. Being legalistic and divisive over things that don't matter is not from God. All I've seen from this movement is a spirit of judgemental-ism. How arrogant to declare everyone else you don't agree with as an unbeliever because of small things that don't matter, especially when they are out there declaring the Gospel to the world while you're just sitting back and casting stones. Those churches are by far more obedient than any of the torah people are.
You are saying that under the old covenant everyone has to be a physical dependent of Jacob , well what about Deuteronomy 29: 10-15
This teaching would help people in the Catholic Church, they also believe that works will save you.
Just discovered you. I have a friend in a Messianic congregation. They're pretty cultish. I can't recall what book we were in, maybe Galatians. But, she stopped attending our Bible study because she disagreed with our discussion of grace.
I'm glad you found us, James!
Blessings, Rob
Out of curiosity, I watched a couple of your videos. Respectfully… good job! However, I would ask you to elaborate on a couple key points.
1. For me to buy in, you would have to answer Matt 5:17. I find it impossible to be believe that Paul, an elite scholar and theologian would contradict Messiah.
2. Paul referred to several laws in Romans. The law of sin. The law of sin and death, the mosaic law… isn’t it possible Paul is speaking about either of the first two laws and not the mosaic law?
After my own study - I cannot find any scripture outside of Paul where there is so much confusion.
I’ve gone deep too. Exploring the different styles of Rabbinical thought that Paul implored to make his points. And I still come away believing Paul would not teach something that directly conflicts with what Yeshua taught.
Great post Jason, I’ve been digging into the same issue for years on Matt 5:17 and Paul’s teachings… what I’ve found is Peter, Stephen, Paul, James, and Jude all teach salvation by faith that is then followed by obedience to the commands. Stephen’s matrydom was literally rooting on the fact that lies were told that he was teaching against the law… so if these are clearly stated as false testimonies then by deduction he was clearly teaching obedience, and Jude is Jesus’s brother…
what I find is Jesus and his disciples time and time again teaching obedience to Gods commands, and at the same time teaching the removal of man’s traditions (Judaism)
It’s become crystal to me and I cannot find anything in the Bible teaching ANYTHING different.
Thanks, Jason. These are great questions which I have had to wrestle with myself. In the Sermon on the Mount Jesus said, “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them” (Matt. 5:17). And He added, “For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished” (v. 18). Some read this as an end-times or second coming statement. But the problem with that interpretation is that much more than and iota or dot of the law has _already passed away!_
Here’s one example: The Law of Moses required continual, repeated animal sacrifices to atone for sin (Lev 16). But because of the sacrifice of Jesus, Hebrews 10:18 says, “there is no longer any offering for sin.” Why? Because Christ was our atoning sacrifice, literally “once for all” (Heb. 10:10). But here’s the thing: These and other Old Covenant laws didn't pass away because they were abolished or thrown out like an old pair of shoes! No, it's because they were fulfilled-they had served their God-ordained purpose and came to an end because of the suffering, death, and resurrection of Jesus (Gal. 3:23-25).
Let me put it another way. I teach and believe that obedience is God’s “love language.” Jesus said, “If you love me, you will keep my commandments” (John 14:15). And I'm sure you would agree that not every command that God has given applies to every person at all times. Some of His commands only apply to certain people (i.e., men, women, parents, Levitical priests) or for certain times (i.e., building an ark, gathering manna, while in exile). And I'm sure you would also agree that we are each only expected to keep the commands of God that apply to us. The NT expressly teaches that many of the commands given under the Old Covenant Law do not apply to Christians today. (ex. The repeated blood sacrifices for sin I mentioned above.) We still serve God and obey His commands, “But now we are released from the law, having died with Christ to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code” (Rom 7:6). So if we want to put a classification of "law" on it, Christians follow the Law of Christ.
Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots I really appreciate your response. A text thread is such a difficult way to convey matters pertaining to an infinite GOD. Perhaps you could do a more in depth video on this subject, especially since it is one of great importance. God Bless my friend!
@@wayfaringfarmer2724 I could not agree more.
Keep reading…
”Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.“
Matthew 5:19
What is so wrong with obeying the commands? Why is there such fervor in American Christianity towards an unrestrained life… could it be dispensationalism’s fruit?
Very good teaching. I do have one small quibble towards the end (3rd section). You made the statement that all who came out of Egypt were the family (physical descendants). So, the quibble is the Exodus reads that it wasn't just family, but also included gentiles servants who also came out. This is also seen later on in the laws for those who were outsiders who joined Israel (nation). I would clarify and reword your statement on who all came out of Egypt and were members of the "nation" when it was formed at Mount Sinai. That was my quibble.
Yep, he glazzed right over the Mixed Mulitudes.
It's his religions indoctrinations.
His religion took over the Intent of the scriptures.
Not willing to give up church control to the "Hebrew Rock" apon wich his "Quhal" was to be build on....
Sad realy, even the elect is decieved.
Great clarification, Thomas. And although there may have been a "mixed multitude" (Ex 12:38) with Israel at Mount Sinai, the covenant God made was not with "all present," but rather with the "house of Jacob and the people of Israel" (Exodus 19:3). The phrase "house of..." is the ancient Hebrew way of referring to one's family across generations. So the "house of Jacob" specifically means the physical descendants of Jacob (who was renamed "Israel" in Gen 32:28), _aka_ "the people of Israel," what we know today as the Jewish people. It was an ethnic group that Yahweh set apart for Himself. This is why in the Torah, Gentiles are always called out separately from Israel and labelled sojourners, foreigners, and strangers.
Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots Thanks for the response and clarification.
@@thomashcase
Deuteronomy 29:2 ESV
[2] And Moses SUMMONED ALL ISRAEL and said to them: “You have seen all that the Lord did before your eyes in the land of Egypt, to Pharaoh and to all his servants and to all his land,
Deuteronomy 29:10-15 ESV
[10] “You are standing today, ALL OF YOU, before the Lord your God: the HEADS of your tribes, your ELDERS, and your OFFICERS, all the MEN of Israel, [11] your LITTLE ONES, your WIVES, and the SOJOURNER who is in your camp, from the one who chops your wood to the one who draws your water, [12] so that YOU may ENTER INTO the sworn COVENANT of the Lord your God, which the Lord your God is making with you today, [13] that he may ESTABLISH YOU today AS HIS PEOPLE, and that he may be your God, as he promised you, and as he swore to your fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob. [14] It is NOT WITH YOU ALONE that I am making this sworn COVENANT, [15] but with WHOEVER IS STANDING HERE with us TODAY before the Lord our God, AND WITH WHOEVER IS NOT HERE with us today.
Genesis 15:1-4 ESV
[1] After these things the word of the Lord came to Abram in a vision: “Fear not, Abram, I am your shield; your reward shall be very great.” [2] But Abram said, “O Lord God, what will you give me, for I continue childless, and the HEIR of my house is ELIEZER of Damascus?” [3] And Abram said, “Behold, you have given me no offspring, and a MEMEBER OF MY HOUSEHOLD will be my heir.” [4] And behold, the word of the Lord came to him: “This man shall not be your heir; your very own son shall be your heir.”
Genesis 17:22-27 ESV
[22] When he had finished talking with him, God went up from Abraham. [23] Then Abraham took Ishmael his son and ALL THOSE BORN IN HIS HOUSE OR BOUGHT WITH his MONEY, EVERY MALE AMONG THE MEN of ABRAHAM'S HOUSE, and he circumcised the flesh of their foreskins that very day, as God had said to him. [24] Abraham was ninety-nine years old when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin. [25] And Ishmael his son was thirteen years old when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin. [26] That very day Abraham and his son Ishmael were circumcised. [27] AND ALL THE MEN OF HIS HOUSE, those born in the house and those bought with money from a foreigner, were circumcised with him.
Genesis 14:14 ESV
[14] When Abram heard that his kinsman had been taken captive, he led forth his TRAINED MEN, BORN IN HIS HOUSE, 318 of them, and went in pursuit as far as Dan.
Genesis 18:19 ESV
[19] For I have chosen him, that he may command HIS CHILDERN AND HIS HOUSEHOLD after him to keep the way of the Lord by doing righteousness and justice, so that the Lord may bring to Abraham what he has promised him.”
Exodus 12:48-49 ESV
[48] If a STRANGER shall sojourn with you and would keep the Passover to the Lord, LET ALL HIS MALES be circumcised. Then he may come near and keep it; HE SHALL BE AS A NATIVE OF THE LAND. But no uncircumcised person shall eat of it. [49] There shall be ONE LAW for the NATIVE and for the STRANGER who sojourns among you.”
Galatians 3:28-29 ESV
[28] There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. [29] And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise.
Isaiah 56:1-8 ESV
[1] Thus says the Lord: “Keep justice, and do righteousness, for soon my salvation will come, and my righteousness be revealed. [2] Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who holds it fast, who keeps the Sabbath, not profaning it, and keeps his hand from doing any evil.” [3] Let not the foreigner who has joined himself to the Lord say, “The Lord will surely separate me from his people”; and let not the eunuch say, “Behold, I am a dry tree.” [4] For thus says the Lord: “To the eunuchs who keep my Sabbaths, who choose the things that please me and hold fast my covenant, [5] I will give in my house and within my walls a monument and a name better than sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting name that shall not be cut off. [6] “And the foreigners who join themselves to the Lord, to minister to him, to love the name of the Lord, and to be his servants, everyone who keeps the Sabbath and does not profane it, and holds fast my covenant- [7] these I will bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer; their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be accepted on my altar; for my house shall be called a house of prayer for all peoples.” [8] The Lord God, who gathers the outcasts of Israel, declares, “I will gather yet others to him besides those already gathered.”
Romans 11:16-24 ESV
[16] If the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, so is the whole lump, and if the root is holy, so are the branches. [17] But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root of the olive tree, [18] do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you. [19] Then you will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” [20] That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear. [21] For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. [22] Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off. [23] And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again. [24] For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree.
Ephesians 2:12-13 ESV
[12] remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. [13] But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ.
Ephesians 2:18-19 ESV
[18] For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. [19] So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God,
Joshua 6:25 ESV
[25] But Rahab the prostitute and her father’s household and all who belonged to her, Joshua saved alive. And she has lived in Israel to this day, because she hid the messengers whom Joshua sent to spy out Jericho.
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Rob, when you say Gentiles are grafted in according to Rom. 11, does this imply Gentiles could not become a part of Israel in the Tanakh? Because there are many Gentile believes in YHWH in the OT (Caleb, Rahab, Ruth, Naaman, etc.) I was just wondering what the difference is between the Old covenant and New covenant in this regard
Awesome teaching of truth!❤️
This is all good except for one big mistake. You repeatedly say that under the old covenant it was only ethnic Israel who could be 'saved' but this is not true. God repeatedly includes believing Gentiles into the covenant family, I particularly like Caleb who, though representing Judah, was ethnically of the Kenites. Also in Isaiah God speaks to the foreigners and Eunuchs who keep His Sabbaths and says he will give them a name better than that of sons and daughters. (56:1-7). God's house was always meant to be a house of prayer for all nations. He didn't change His mind about that with Jesus. The Jews however, completely missed that truth which was there all along and Paul did need to correct them!
Paul does not say we need to enter a covenant and in fact ignores that as necessary to be saved in his gospel of faith. the 3 times he uses covenant is in fact nothing to do with the gospel!
Through marriage Believers are of the House of Judah. 🕊️
YAHisrael, Israeli, lost sheep.
If im under the household of YHWH it makes sense to follow his appointed times. Also, there is a distinction between what Moses taught and what the Pharisees taught. The pharisees taught a man made law that is not what Torah keepers believe.
Amen,
12 tribes ....Without the genealogies (all destroyed in 70 AD) how do we know who is who? Just curious.
Hi, Cat! I don't believe we can know who is who any longer as far as tribal affiliation. But we can trust that God does.
Blessing,
Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots Yeah, Jesus knows alright.
I tell many ppl this we cannot know for sure but I know many ppl who claim they are Jews and claiming a tribe they’re not 100% sure they are even from
The Israelis at Mount Sinai were not part of YHWH’s family until they accepted the Torah and came into covenant with YHWH. And it was not just descendants of Jacob/Israel that had the opportunity to become YHWH’s people. The mixed multitude that left Egypt with Israel also were welcomed in.
Christians are grafted into Jesus, as it is written in John 15:1-12; Romans 7:11-36. Amen.
And Jesus is the King of Israel in John 1:49.
In time past there was twain, Jews and Gentiles, but now there is one new creature.
“For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.” - Gal 6:15
All of the old things pertaining to Israel and the Gentiles are not carried over into this new creature:
“Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.” - 2 Cor 5:17
That this one thing is new means none of the old things are applied to it: old covenants, old laws, old lands, old national boundaries, prophecies of old are all passed away.
The covenants to Israel, the kingdom to Israel, the land to Israel were not and could not be transferred into this new creature, because Israel ceases to be Israel in this one new man.
Likewise, neither do the Gentiles remain Gentiles far away from God and without hope. Instead, in this new creature they become members of the very body of Christ (Eph 5:30).
The description of God in Christ making “of two one new” is most important in distinguishing Israel from the church of this dispensation.
In time past there was Gentile and there was Jew, but now what is new can be neither of the original two (Eph 2:15). It must be something entirely different.
This new creature is called the church, the body of Christ (Eph 1:22-23). Mark this twain made new in your Bible and your ability to rightly divide will greatly improve.
“For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free…” - 1 Cor 12:13
“Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.” - 1 Cor 12:27
Isn’t it nice to be adopted into the tribe of Judah?
@@ShaulTzuar By Jesus, Yes.
@@pierreferguson1300 of course. Jesus is from the line of Judah of Israel.
*Everyone better investigate the supernatural bible changes BEFORE standing at the Gate.*
Praise YHWH!
Mandela effect is a lie and witchcraft, don't believe it. I used to believe that lie before Jesus pulled me out.
*The King James Bible **_was_** at one time a literary masterpiece without blemish. What I mean is there were no spelling, grammar or punctuation errors in it. I have a short film in my playlist on how that was acheived. Now, they're on every page! And there are MANY word switches too! Satan has **_supernaturally_** attacked it more than any other translation, but all of them in every language have been destroyed in the fulfillment of prophecy! Plus all concordances, encyclopedias, dictionaries, history books, the oldest manuscripts and the Dead Sea scrolls have been miraculously changed to match!*
*Not every word, Satan is too smart for that and he understands that rats won't eat pure poison so .05% is added to 99.95% corn. The rats love it because they can't taste the poison ... and perish for lack of knowlege! If you ever needed to obey God's commandment to ''prove all things'' and investigate something, this is it!!!*
*Our Father said to "prove all things" and you better obey Him on this thing especially. I have an exceptional memory, I remember my third birthday party and can draw an accurate picture of my baby stroller. I'm 70, was saved when I was 10 and **_had been_** reading only the **_exact same copy_** of the King James bible since 1961. (I am not a king James onlyist, but now I'm glad I never read any others or I might not have noticed the changes as soon.) I memorized many scriptures out of it over the years and I absolutely **_know_** that the word **_demons_** used to be all through it. But today that word is not anywhere in there! It was replaced with **_devils._** And the only place I've ever read the word **_wineskins_** was in my bible, but it's not in it any more either. It was replaced with **_bottles._** And now **_unicorns, easter, matrix, castles, damsels, stuff, corn, colleges, banks, employment, schools, missles, tires, mufflers, manifolds, engines, highways, suburbs, pavement, presidents, doctors, pilots, sheriffs, beer, dumb ass, India, Spain, Italy, ferryboats, couches_** and lots of other words are in my bible that I never saw in it my whole life! Many of these words are anachronisms (they didn't even exist in 1611!) It never talked about men with milk in their breasts or fathers nursing babies either, but now it does! Isaiah 11:6 used to say the **_lion_** shall lie down with the lamb, not the **_wolf_** shall also dwell with the lamb! Lion represents Jesus and wolf is associated with Satan! There are 15 films in my playlist will show you plenty of undeniable "residue" showing that ''wolf'' has replaced "Lion". (Residue is what they call all the things Satan missed as he was changing our world.) Luke 17:34 used to say "two shall be in one bed, one shall be taken and the other one left", but now it says "two **_men_** shall be in one bed.......! And the following verse said "two women shall be grinding at the mill together......" and now it just says "two women shall be **_grinding together_** ......! So now the bible makes it sound like some homosexuals are going to be ''raptured"! BTW **_nobody's going to be "raptured" until after the tribulation. The Wrath of God follows._*
But *this is the BIGGIE,* in Luke 19:27 it has Jesus saying "And those mine enemies that would not that I should reign over them, bring hither and *SLAY THEM BEFORE ME!"* It did say _eshew_ them away! This change makes Christians sound like radical extremists!! *Millions of Christians will be killed because of this verse!!!* And I know that this is a parable, but the king Jesus was talking about was Himself, the King of Kings! The film titled *Satan's Agents and Doctrines of Demons* which is in my playlist is just about this verse, and is the most important video most of you have ever seen. (It has Chuck Missler and Chuck Lawson in it!)
*I memorized the Lord's prayer as a boy because Jesus told us to say it, and I have said it tens of thousands of times, and it absolutely did not say **_which_** art in heaven, it said **_who_** art in heaven, it didn't say **_in earth,_** it was **_on earth._** And it now says forgive us our **_debts_** instead of our **_trespasses!!!_*
*God has sent His strong delusion to all of the people that never received the love of the truth! What's scary is, so far that appears to be almost all believers! This incredible phenomenon they're calling the Mandela effect is absolutely real, but it should actually be called the Daniel 7:25 effect because that's where God said He would give the Antichrist power to do this, (''change times and laws''). I first became aware of some of the bible changes in 2014 before I ever had a computer or had heard of the Mandela effect. But since 2016 I've watched many hundreds of videos on the subject, and saved some of the best and most important ones for proving your bible has been changed and pointing out all the places this was talked about in end time prophecies that we had previously misinterpreted in my playlist which you can see by 👉 typing into RUclips (PROOF OF BIBLE CHANGE RESIDUE JUNKIE)* 👈
*By the time you have seen all these films which point out all the misinterpreted prophecies being fulfilled **_supernaturally_** you will have grown MUCH closer to Jesus the never changing Word of God and your faith will be 1,000% stronger ... GUARANTEED!!!!!!!*
*Even though I will no longer read any bible, (unless Jesus changes them back), I continue to study what God's word said by seeing what scriptures have been changed with proof of what was originally written. I urge you all to do the same, while you still can, because when the lights go out, all we'll have then is hard copies of the bible Satan wants us reading! At that point Amos **8:12** will be fulfilled where it says we will no longer be able to find His words anywhere again.*
*This is without question the biggest and most important event since the day of Pentecost! When you see absolute proof that the miraculous fulfillment of end time prophecies are happening with your own eyes, and how close we are to our Savior's return, it's the most faith strengthening and exciting thing that you've ever experienced!*
*God bless you all!!!* ❤✝️💪🏻
Heather *If Fiona Broom would have known scripture instead of tarot cards and Ouija boards she would have named it the "Daniel 7:25 Effect" and if you would have known scripture I wouldn't be having to tell you about this. Jesus will make sure you understand it before He sends you in your way though.*
@@residuejunkie4321 Trust God's word, not your memory. This is a great deception. Most of the verses you cite can be found in more than one place, with slightly different wording. There are also so many translations that our memories could cite one version that's not in kjv or other places.
God says heaven and earth will pass away but MY WORDS will never pass away.
Man will not live by bread alone but by EVERY word of God.
God in not a liar.
DearSir:
Are you suggesting that the Ten Commandments are done away with... No longer relevant, applicable or worthy to be observed?
Who was the first Jew?
"Jew" comes from the Hebrew word "Judah," ergo Judah was the first "Jew."
“I ONLY came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel”
Hi, Ted! Yep, that's what Jesus said during His earthly mission. And After His resurrection He said, "Go and make disciples of *all* nations" (Matt. 28:19).
RLS
Location, Location, Location!
Ephesian 2 commonwealth is speaking of the fellow citizenship Jew & Gentile have together in heaven, above in the new Jerusalem.
Hi Jose... Yes, all who are counted righteous by faith are citizens of heaven...
Hebrews 11:10 "For he (Abraham) was looking forward to the city that has foundations, whose designer and builder is God."
Hebrews 11:16 "But as it is, they (OT saints counted righteous by faith) desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared for them a city."
Hebrews 13:14 “For here we (NT saints) have no lasting city, but we seek the city that is to come.”
Both OT & NT saints, made perfect together (Hebrews 11:40), constitute the bride of Christ and seek the city to come, the new Jerusalem (Revelation 21:2), which God has prepared for them.
Revelation 3:12 "The one who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will not go out from it anymore; and I will write on him the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God, and My new name."
I believe Scripture reveals that the glorified saints, ransomed by the blood of the Lamb from every tribe and language and people and nation, and redeemed from mankind as firstfruits for God and the Lamb, will serve as a kingdom of priests (Revelation 1:5-6; 5:9) in the Millennial (Messianic) Kingdom, judging the twelve tribes of Israel (Matthew 19:28), the world (1 Corinthians 6:2), and angels (1 Corinthians 6:3).
Amen
Dispensationalist will say the covenant with Israel was an 'unconditional covenant '?
Thank you for this teaching. I have a question. Did you say that there was no nation of Israel after 522 BC? I am under the impression that the destruction of the temple in 70 AD was the end of the nation of Israel?
Hi Faron! I suppose it depends on how you're using the word "nation." In a technical sense, the _political_ nation or kingdom of Israel ceased to exist in 522 BC. By the time of Jesus, while many Israelites still lived in the land, they were under Roman rule.
Blessings, Rob
@TheBiblicalRoots Thanks for your reply, and I understand they were under Roman rule, but they still had rule over the Jewish people and were teaching law and works, correct?
Yes, but they were still a nation.; under occupation, but still allowed limited ruling. They actually considered themselves as such and I DO remember something about ' someone to die for the NATION '?
@@TheBiblicalRoots I agree with most of what you taught, but this point seems flimsy to me. Not sure why being under Roman rule would make Israel not a nation. Maybe not in Rome's eyes, but certainly in Israel's eyes and God's eyes.
What about Philippians 3:20 That mentions citizenship? Also interesting enough I looked at the Authorized KJV and it says conversation instead.
Great video great teaching it is really clear that when 70 A.D. happened it was a complete devastation of their land and now I wouldn’t keep calling them our friends in the Hebrew roots, cause they’ve done nothing because division into families cause division into churches they are completely opposed to work GodX 20 price died for the local church. You know great video I learned to realize I was really late things out clearly
I agree with you. They are enemies of Jesus and His finished work on the Cross. They plagued the Church 2000 years ago and stoned Paul to death. They are doing the same today. Paul said about them '8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.'
@@salpezzino7803 Do you mean they stoned St. Stephen to death? St. Paul was a Pharisee who held peoples cloaks while they stoned Stephen to death. Paul died in Rome, and he died by decapitation.
@@salpezzino7803 yea you got it off about Hebrew Sual/Greek Paul.
And that Land, of the cross, of the Rock to build apon, was located in thy Hebrew Lands. Greeks high jacket YAHshua and His Teachingings to promote there Torahless ways, happy marry solstus chisristmas and fun easter, ester 🥚 goddest day.
@@princekermit0Saint Paul? Richous Sual.
Read where the scriptures changed his name almost mid sentence. I find it interesting. Should spark some interest 🤔
@@6969smurfy stay off the pipe
Paul Said
We Are "Grafted In Among Them". Not Into Them.
This is very good but I would like to add that the Law is written on our hearts in Messiah.
that is the 10 not the law of Moses
First, I would like to say that the word translated as Law in English is the word Torah in Hebrew and the word Torah should be translated as "teaching, showing, instruction." God did not do away with His teachings, showings, and instructions that He gave to Moses...
Hebrews 8:10 "For this is the New Covenant I will make with the House of Israel after those days, says Yehovah: I will put My Laws (My teachings, showings, instructions) into there minds, and I will write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.
Hebrews 8:7-13 comes from the promise in Jeremiah 31: 31-34 "Behold , days are coming ," declares Yehovah, "when I will make a New Covenant with the House of Israel and the House of Judah, not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them,"declares Yehovah. "But this is the covenant which I will make with the House of Israel after those days," declares Yehovah, " I will put My Law (My teaching, showing, instructions) within them and ON THEIR HEARTS I WILL WRITE IT; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. "They will not teach again, each man his neighbor and each man his brother, saying, 'Know Yehovah,' for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them,"declares Yehovah, "for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.
That's why Yeshua (Jesus) said, in John 16:7 ,"But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you.
John 16:13 "But when He , the Spirit of Truth' comes, He will guide you into all Truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.
It is the Holy Spirit who writes the Law of God upon our hearts. This is the NEW COVENANT.
Romans 7:9 However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, If indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But If anyone does not have the Spirit of Messiah, He does not belong to Him.
The whole point of Yeshua dying and being raised again was that when He died He Released His Spirit to come and lead and guide us by His Spirit. The shedding of His own blood cleansed us so that His Spirit could come and dwell in us. This is the New Covenant.@@salpezzino7803
@@loispappademos4369 BLAAAAAAAAAAAH = "The whole point of Yeshua dying and being raised again was that when He died He Released His Spirit to come and lead and guide us by His Spirit" Please stay off of Social Media for about 3 years and use that time wisely
And Matthew 5:44 and John 13:34 is written on my heart (Jeremiah 31:31-34; Hebrews 7:11-12; Luke 5:36-39).
oh wow!!!! that wasn't very nice devil
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If Gentiles were not welcome into the first covenant, then what are your thoughts on Isaiah 56 and a mixed multitude, meaning Israelites and Egyptians, at Mt. Sinai when they entered into that covenant (Exodus 12:38). Exodus 12:49: "There shall be one Torah for the native and for the stranger who sojourns among you.”
Hi, Sarah! Although there may have been a "mixed multitude" (Ex 12:38) with Israel at Mount Sinai, the covenant God made was not with "all present," but rather with the "house of Jacob and the people of Israel" (Exodus 19:3). The phrase "house of..." is the ancient Hebrew way of referring to one's family across generations. So the "house of Jacob" specifically means the physical descendants of Jacob (who was renamed "Israel" in Gen 32:28), _aka_ "the people of Israel," what we know today as the Jewish people. It was an ethnic group that Yahweh set apart for Himself. This is why in the Torah, Gentiles are always called out separately from Israel and labelled sojourners, foreigners, and strangers.
As for the "one law" verses, here's a teaching we made on that exact topic which clears up some of those misconceptions: *Was the Law of Moses given to the Gentiles, too?* ruclips.net/video/lM3tlzp9HnE/видео.html
Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots, Exodus 19:8 tells us, "All the people answered together and said, “All that YHWH has spoken we will do.” And Moses reported the words of the people to YHWH." It says all of the people agreed to enter into covenant with the Most High. This is what Isaiah 56 tells us, that Gentiles/foreigners were always welcome into the covenant. They just had to forsake the ways of the nation and keep the Father's commands just as the Prophets, Messiah and Acts 15 tells us.
@@Sar_ahJ I tell you, your Cult cracks me up. Just read the verse before vs7So Moses went back and summoned the elders of the people and set before them all these words that the LORD had commanded him. ---- Did the Gentiles have Elders?
@@salpezzino7803, yikes... cult? You don't even know me, but you came to this conclusion after one brief dialogue I had with someone else?
@@Sar_ahJ 'child of Yahuah' I know you well, you stoned Paul to death in Acts 14
Not all those who say they are Israel are Israel but those whose faith is in the promise, believers
I always thought they called themselves Israelites, because they cannot stand up under the scrutiny that would come if they said they were Jewish? 🤔
Here is your Scripture... "...Eph 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world..." And as long as you deny this you are outside of The Will of GOD...
Colossians 2:8
Wbo is it referring to when it says exodus 12:49. The same law applies both to the native-born and to the foreigner residing among you.” lev 24:22, numbers 9:14, 15:14-16, 29, isaiah 56:3, zechariah 14:21, Ephesians 2:19-22, galatians 3:28, Deuteronomy 10:17 and acts 10:34 both say god doesnt show partiality also col 3:25 . My questions is who is the sojourner / the foreigner / the stranger and why does the law apply to them if they are not Israelites? In the old testament and new it says god doesnt show partially.. Definitely makes it confusing
You cultists always ask these questions, have you read Exodus 12? It is about the Passover. Let me ask, do you keep the Holy Days as Yah Commanded??? If not you are breaking the law, thus you are Lawless
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Im Not in either cult but i do look at what both sides have to say On subjects. Thats why i ask questions.
You talking that way says a lot about how you view and talk to other believers is that something we should be doing
Don't just blindly go off what they say put these people to The test
@@Kozmo-Kamuy If you are speaking to me, Yes, I shouldn't call a Believer a cultist. If they are in the Cult the Hebrew Roots, then I will speak to them as Jesus did
What about a passage like 1 Corinthians 12:2 NKJV “You know that you were Gentiles, carried away to these dumb idols, however you were led.”
Also check out Jason Staples new book, Paul and the Resurrection of Israel.
those gentiles were northern kingdom Israelites
So this also then speaks to salvation lost - contrary to once saved always saved - as some branches broken off, but can be grafted back. If im mistaken, please clarify.
the difference is the branches are a people group, not an individual. Salvation has always been by Faith Alone
Yes, that is one scripture that casts down the lie of Osas. There are many others.
@@heather602 John 6:35 Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst. 36 But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe. 37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.... 44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day ---- Your jesus is a liar
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2 Peter 2:21-22
For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them. What the true proverb says has happened to them: “The dog returns to its own vomit, and the sow, after washing herself, returns to wallow in the mire.”
@@heather602 Those who abide not in Christ, though they may flourish for a while in an outward profession, yet come to nothing. The fire is the fittest place for withered branches; they are good for nothing else.
In the days we are living God alone will raise his people up.Some may be fooled......gentiles are grafted in,the bible is for his people.put a difference as the oppressors have been doing for years.
Solberg, can u show me the verse that outlines the new covenant for gentiles
There isn't one ;)
You won't get a reply...
"Behold, the days come, says Yahweh, that I will make a New Covenant with the house of ISRAEL, and with the house of JUDAH." (Jer 31:31)
This was insightful and I enjoyed the lesson. I learned some very good information, thank you! I do have a concern that you may be conflating Fulfillment theology with what you called Replacement theology though. Fulfillment theology is completely Biblical, and "Replacement Theology" is a strawman many dispensationalists use to attack it
So you just taught that all believers in Messiah are adopted into The House of Israel.
Those that came out of Egypt were a mixed multitude. Mostly blood Israelites, but many of a mixed multitude (egyptians, natives of surrounding countries, natives of far off countries, etc.), and once they assimilated to God's way of living, they were to be considered a native born.
All throughout the old testament we are constantly reminded that any outsider not born into Israel by blood, if they feared God and stayed with Israel and desired to keep God's ways, they would be considered a native born. Not to be discriminated against by any means, but to be as a native and blood-born Israelite.
This isn't as you claimed a "new covenant" concept, it's something that has always been displayed throughout the old testament. Primarily from Exodus - Deuteronomy though, as after that, there isn't much mention of it. You see examples like Rahab for example though.
According to Paul, just as those mixed multitudes were considered part of Israel, so are we:
Ephesians 2:12-13 -----
12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Romans 11:17-20 -----
17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
What’s this view called?
SHALOM SOME GUY NAMED “ABRAHAM”
zI too consider myself a spiritual Israelite.
Jeremiah 16:19
19 O Lord, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, THE GENTILES shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have INHERITED LIES, vanity, and things wherein there is NO PROFIT.
I wish you had included Romans 4:8-25 that explains so beautifully how we are saved by faith by the grace of God and not by anything we do otherwise we would all be bragging about how good we are. . That is called self-righteousness which is what Satan tries to make us believe is possible. There is no way that sinful man can forgive sin. Only God can do that which He did through the blood of Jesus Christ, God the Son.
Yikes😵💫
Well well, I think you are off base brother. One issue is that English has one word for Law. Paul actually used seven uses of Law in his Epistles. Secondly, the Law of God in its primal purpose was as a result of enabling by God’s grace. The author of Hebrews describes the giving of the law as grace. What Paul was dealing with were the “circumcision”, those who incorrectly were using the Law as a means of salvation. The Law of God was also for the alien among them, not only for Israel. God wants to make one new man, not throw out God ‘s Law which Paul (as well as Psalm 17) says the Law is perfect and holy.
My question then is:
is the Ten Commandments part of the Law given to the New Covenant?
the 10 still stand, So they wouldnt be needed to be given to the New Covenant, and Yes the Lord's Day is the Sabbath
Hi, John. The 10 Commandments were given as the foundation of the Old Covenant law. As I see it, those Commandments do not apply to Christians today in the context they were given to Israel. In other words, we don't honor our parents "so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you" (Exod. 20:12). And we don't impose the death penalty on someone who breaks Sabbath.
However, the principles behind the Ten Commandments still very much apply to Christians. In fact, nine of the 10 Commandments are repeated and/or taught in the New Testament. (The Sabbath is not). But even with the Sabbath, it is no longer required that we keep the seventh day Sabbath as it was laid out in the Torah (Col. 2:16-17). (We can if we want, of course...just not the death penalty part!) But I believe the principle behind the Sabbath should still be kept: setting aside a regular time of rest to remember, thank, and worship God and be with family.
Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots That is New Covenant theology. Natural Law, Moral law, applies a Common Grace toward all men whereby God's Law is written on the Hearts of ALL men not just His Children. This is why a pagan who has no knowledge of God knows that when murdering a fellow human being it is wrong and it smites his conscience. The Decalogue is specifically the Moral Law given to Moses on Sinai. The Decalogue IS written on the hearts and minds of ALL men. It was given to Moses by God, who wrote it with His finger. The law of Moses was given to Moses by angels. The Sabbath was spoken of many times by Jesus and the New Testament writers. This is the issue with most of today's Christian churches. The 4th commandment still stands. One day out of Seven.
The Torah clearly defines that it is a covenant with God and the Jews, and that the New Covenant or “promise” is the same covenant as before, just this time all Jews will love the Torah, perform the commandments and never leave HaShem’s ways again.
"Grafted in?”
Let us start with the credibility of the theology of being “grafted in” that the NT implies or grants Christian’s as being apart of the covenant made eternally with the Israelites.
The olive tree metaphor is used in both the Tanakh and the New Testament, the specific theological application of being grafted in, as presented in the New Testament (Romans 11:17-24), is a distinctive concept introduced by the Apostle Paul.
In the Tanakh, the olive tree metaphor is used to symbolize Israel’s condition, sometimes in a positive sense of flourishing (Jeremiah 11:16) or negative sense of judgment (Hosea 14:5-6). However, the idea of Gentiles being grafted into the olive tree, as articulated in the New Testament, is a unique theological concept introduced to illustrate the inclusion of non-Jews into God’s covenant through faith in Jesus Christ.
In essence, the New Testament’s theological application of the olive tree metaphor introduces a novel concept not explicitly present in the Tanakh, making it distinctive and specific to Christian theology. Therefore, the theological emphasis on Gentiles being grafted into the olive tree is a unique development in the New Testament that is not a direct continuation of the Tanakh’s use of the olive tree metaphor.
Since this metaphor of the “olive tree” of the NT and it’s theology of being “grafted in” is not accurate, and does not connect to the Tanakh or Jewish theology, the authors credibility must be questioned as well.
Paul-Saul of Tarsus:
In Christian tradition, Saul of Tarsus is said to have been born in the city of Tarsus, located in modern-day Turkey. Initially identified as a Pharisee (Pharisee of Pharisees - Acts 23:6), Saul is depicted as actively persecuting followers of Jesus (1 Corinthians 15:9 & so on…). The turning point in his life, a dramatic conversion experience on the road to Damascus, is a pivotal event narrated in the New Testament's Book of Acts. This transformative incident involves Saul encountering a divine light and hearing the voice of Jesus, leading to his profound shift into becoming a devoted follower of Christ.
The absence of explicit references to Saul of Tarsus in Jewish texts, particularly the Tanakh, has prompted inquiries into his alleged association with Rabbi Gamaliel. Christian accounts posit Saul as a student of rabbi Gamaliel, a revered Pharisee and Sanhedrin member whose moderation is highlighted in the Book of Acts, where he counsels caution in dealing with the early Christian movement.
Notably, Jewish historical sources, including the Mishnah, Talmud, and Midrashim, lack any corroboration of Saul's association with Rabbi Gamaliel. This absence raises doubts about the historical accuracy of this aspect of Saul's narrative and questions the reliance on circular reasoning, given that the New Testament serves as the sole source for this storyline. Jewish texts predominantly focus on the teachings and legal deliberations of Rabbi Gamaliel, rather than detailing his purported interaction with the early Christian community. Additionally, the argument hinges on the claim that the validity of Paul's theological framework is dependent on his status as a Pharisee and Jew. If one questions the authenticity of his credentials, it introduces uncertainty about the theological concepts he introduced, forming a loop where the validity of his teachings is closely tied to his own claims. These considerations prompt a critical examination of the foundations of Pauline theology and its impact on the understanding of Gentile inclusion in God's covenant through the Torah.
Conversion or strategic framing?
While the New Testament posits that Paul was previously Saul of Tarsus, a closer examination reveals a nuanced narrative that lacks a substantiated link to Judaism. It's crucial to discern between a narrative connection and historical integrity. The strategic identification of Paul with Saul of Tarsus may serve a theological purpose, but when scrutinized against the backdrop of Jewish literature and the Tanakh, a palpable absence of connection emerges. This deliberate association in the New Testament appears to be more of a theological framing rather than a factual bridge to Judaism. Unraveling the layers reveals a narrative strategy that seeks to create a semblance of continuity, urging Christians to perceive a connection where historical evidence falls short.
Did Paul use Jewish theology in his writings?
There's a conspicuous lack of evidence supporting Paul's deep understanding of the Hebrew language. He rarely employed it, favoring Greek text, often misquoting and misusing it to weave his narrative and shape Christian theology.
While Paul accurately quoted Greek philosophers, playwrights, and poets, his citations from Jewish prophets were less precise, raising a theological dilemma. If Christians regard Paul's writings as divinely inspired, why would God draw from the works of godless Greek writers? Would God quote figures like Voltaire or Russell?
Paul referenced Plato in I Cor. 13:12, Greek poets Epimenides of Crete and Aratus of Cilicia in Acts 17:28, and comedy playwright Menander in I Cor. 15:33. In the latter, he cited a playwright known for using vulgarities, prompting the question: would God quote from a playwright who frequently employed offensive language?
In Galatians, Paul addressed an illiterate, non-Jewish audience, introducing a contrived teaching about the Abrahamic Covenant that portrays gentile Christians as children of Abraham (Galatians 1:1-6:18). This agenda, evident in Galatians 4:22-31, transforms the descendants of Sarah into a metaphor for those free from the curse of the Law, and casting the descendants of Hagar as representing Jews bound by the Law. This raises questions about the existence of a "curse" attached to the Law in the Tanakh, lacking support in verses like Deut. 28:15, 45, and Jeremiah 11:3-5.
Despite claiming to be the "Pharisee of Pharisees," Paul consistently misquotes Jewish scriptures, leading to inconsistencies in his understanding of the Hebrew language, theological concepts, and the contextual nuances of Hebrew Scriptures.This leads to the conclusion that Paul may not have been who he claimed to be, carrying profound implications for doctrines like “Pauline grafting.” The Christian argument appears to simplify the situation into a false dichotomy: either Paul is a Pharisee and Jew, validating his teachings, or he is not, rendering his writings entirely false. Given the evidence that Paul wasn’t who he claimed to be, it follows that his writings lack credibility, affirming that his theology is disconnected from the Tanakh and Judaism..
Converts: How does one become apart of HaShem’s covenant with Israel?
The Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) contains several verses that emphasize the acceptance of foreigners (converts) or non-Israelites into the community, often with the expectation of following Israel's religious practices and laws. While the term "convert" may not be used in the same way as in modern Judaism, these verses illustrate the acceptance of outsiders who wish to become part of the community. Here are a few relevant verses:
• Exodus 12:48-49: "A foreigner (convert) residing among you who wants to celebrate the Lord’s Passover must have all the males in his household circumcised; then he may take part like one born in the land. No uncircumcised male may eat it. The same law applies to both the native-born and to the foreigner residing among you."
• Leviticus 19:34: "The foreigner (convert) residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God."
• Numbers 15:15: "The community is to have the same rules for you and for the foreigner (convert) residing among you; this is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come. You and the foreigner shall be the same before the Lord."
• Isaiah 56:3-7: “Let no foreigner who is bound to the Lord say, ‘The Lord will surely exclude me from his people.’ … for my (convert) house will be called a house of prayer for all nations.”
• Ruth 1:16: “But Ruth replied, ‘Don’t urge me to leave you or to turn back from you. Where you go I will go, and where you stay I will stay. Your people will be my people and your God my God.’”
• Ezekiel 47:22-23: “You are to allot it as an inheritance for yourselves and for the foreigners (convert) residing among you and who have children. You are to consider them as native-born Israelites; along with you, they are to be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel.”
These verses highlight the inclusive nature of Israelite society, where foreigners (converts) who embraced the faith and practices of the Israelites were not to be excluded but were to be treated as equals, participating in the religious and social life of the community.
These verses emphasize the inclusion of foreigners (converts) or non-Israelites into the community if they adhere to certain religious and ceremonial practices, such as circumcision and following religious festivals and laws. While the Tanakh does not use the term "convert" as it's understood in modern Judaism, these verses show the willingness to welcome those from other backgrounds who choose to adopt Israelite practices and become part of the community.
The backhand Hebrew roots friends says a lot
Can you do a video comparing Mathew 3:15 and Mathew 5:17. Playraoo vs playraoo and why one is done away with and one is a requirement in Christianity. Baptism
No one else has the drive to disprove Hebrew roots like you , I think you would expose the truth .
Paul explains how to “rightly divide” the word of truth in a single verse in his letter to the Galatians… but you need to have studied in order to properly fill in the areas Paul assumes we know.
Galatians 3:19 “So what purpose then does the law serve (WHAT LAW)? It was added because of transgressions (WHAT WAS THE TRANSGRESSION AND WHAT DID IT TRANSGRESS?) until the Seed (WHAT SEED?) to whom the promise (WHAT PROMISES) referred had come. The law was given through angels and entrusted to a mediator (WHICH MEDIATOR?).”
Galatians 3:19 “So what purpose then does THE BOOK OF THE LAW (GALATIANS 3:10) serve? The Book of the Law was added because of transgressions against THE FATHER’S COVENANT LAW (EXODUS 20:1-17 / EXODUS 32:19), till CHRIST (GALATIANS 3:16) should come to whom THE COVENANT OF PROMISE was made (GENESIS 15:17 / HEBREWS 6:13); and The Book of the Law was appointed through ANGELS NOT THE FATHER, by the hand of MOSES (EXODUS 20:18-19).”
CONCLUSION: Paul writes that we were under The Book of the Law given at Mount Sinai because the people rejected The Word that came from the Father in favor of the word that came from Moses (Exodus 20:18-19), until the crucifixion of Christ, The Seed, who fulfilled His Promise made in Spirit in Genesis 15:17. Then, with His resurrection, those who hear and obey the Father’s call to “come out of her” by following the change in Mediator from Moses to Christ, are born again and have The Eternal Covenant Law (Exodus 20:1-17) written on their hearts, which is the promise of the New Covenant (Jeremiah 31:31-33). For additional understanding check out our teaching entitled: “Galatians 3:19 Explained”. May you be blessed in your pursuit of truth.
You seemed to brush off replacement theology, but what you taught here seems in step with replacement theology. I lean in that direction, but replacement theology is just a term given to that belief that doesn't fully explain what it's about. They don't believe that the church is now the nation of Israel, but as you said, the relational people of God, composed of Jews and Gentiles.
Hi, Aaron. When I say "replacement theology" I am speaking of the position that the church has replaced Israel in God's sovereign plan, and that the Jews are no longer God’s chosen people, and God does not have specific future plans for the nation of Israel. In light of passages like Romans 11 and Revelation 7, I don't think the Bible supports that position.
Best, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots Interesting. I wonder what you think those future plans entail. A land? A rebuilt temple? I'm not sure how you can beautifully make the point that ethnicity is not the key component to being part of God's family "Israel" and yet think ethnicity is still a key component.
Curious also, what does it take to be a member of God's chosen (ethnic?) people Israel? Do you need to have a certain percentage of Jewish blood? What if you have no blood but you become a citizen of Israel? Do you still think there are proselytes today? What if someone decides to convert to Judaism by following the Old testament requirements. Do they become a member of God's chosen people? It worked that way in the Old testament. Does it still work that way?
@@AaronThinks Hi Aaron. As I understand the Bible, ethnicity is a God-ordained construct that He chooses for us before we're even conceived. Ethnic distinctions are God's idea and only He can decide who gets to be a member of his ethnic people Israel. (Whether or not there's a man-made way in through intermarriage or religious conversion, I have no idea.) But ethnicity, just like gender or social status, has nothing to do with our salvation (Gal. 3:28-29). It's only about faith in Jesus.
Shalom, Rob
Context,context, context. You threw the baby out with the bath water. What Paul says in Romans 7 is we are free from the condemnation of the Law for sin. Not the Law itself. Get it right Doc.
THE HEAD APOSTLE’S WARNING ABOUT PAUL:
2 Peter 3:15-16
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother PAUL also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things HARD TO BE UNDERSTOOD, which they that are UNLEARNED and UNSTABLE WREST, AS THEY DO ALSO THE OTHER SCRIPTURES, UNTO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION.
Yes Peter tells us to be careful, and NOT transgress Thy Torah.
He cut off the good olive branches (scribes, priests, and unbelieving in Israel), and graft in the wild olive branches (blind, publicans, harlots, fishermen, sinners) that made up the faithful little flock. Eventually, even faithful Gentiles would get into the kingdom before faithless and fruitless rulers and priests in Israel (Acts 10:34-35).
The wild olive graft of Romans 11 is the faithful nation that bears fruit in Matthew 21. It was the people of that wild nation that continued in God’s goodness by faith to receive Israel’s kingdom.
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Paul is the apostle to the gentiles.
It is Amazing what God has done (someone put together)in the Strongest Strong’s exhaustive concordance published by Zondervan. The Words Revealed
God only has one special group of people. that is believers like Abraham
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
What about the Israelites that were not Jews? They are descendants of Jacob/Israel. YHWH divorced them (Northern Kingdom). Are you considering them Gentiles? Once they accept Christ are you considering them Gentiles and not Israel? Remember, all Jews were considered Israel but not all Israelis are Jews.
All those who accept Christ and become grafted in are Israel, regardless of our bloodline.
29:20 sorry. You're wrong. It was never "only" physical descendants. The mixed multitude at Sinai were not physical descendants. "Grafting in" was always a thing. King david descends from a moabite (whose descendants aren't supposed to join)
Hi tbishop... Yes, the Old Testament ekklesia was comprised of the twelve tribes of Israel, sojourners, and then proselytes. If sojourners or proselytes were counted righteous by faith, their names are written in the Lamb's book of life, and are sons of Abraham. The nation of Israel believed that all who were natural descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob belonged to God (See John 8), but Jesus confronted them because they didn't believe (the ones who did believe becames disciples).
The "grafting in" concept only applies to those counted righteous by faith (all the saints in salvation history)--the "cultivated olive tree" in Romans 11. In the New Testament ekklesia, only born-again believers, counted righteous by faith (repentant overcomers who endure to the end) are sons of Abraham, and grafted in to the cultivated olive tree, or "Israel of God."
Hebrews 10:35 "Therefore do not throw away your confidence, which has a great reward."
Hebrews 10:36 "For you have need of endurance, so that when you have done the will of God you may receive what is promised."
Hebrews 10:37 "For, 'Yet a little while, and the coming one will come and will not delay;'"
Hebrews 10:38 "But my righteous one shall live by faith, and if he shrinks back, my soul has no pleasure in him.”
Hebrews 10:39 "But we are not of those who shrink back and are destroyed, but of those who have faith and preserve their souls."
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@@BrotherInChrist nothing paul said is relevant to my statement
You are correct. Any stranger or sojourner who chose to join himself to the covenant followed the same law. God says you will have one law, for you and the stranger.
This is one reason why the 7 noahide laws are a sham.
Hi Heather! Deut. 14:21 is one of many passages that show that sojourners and foreigners were not given all the same laws as the native born Israelites. They were allowed to participate in the ways and worship of YHWH, but were not given full citizenship.
Shalom,
Rob
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Lies upon lies... That is what Christianity is built on. I'm sorry.
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*Matthew 2:15*
where he stayed until the death of Herod. And so was fulfilled what the Lord had said through the prophet: *“Out of Egypt I called my son.”*
Now see the original verse in the OT
*Hosea 11:1*
When *Israel* was a child, I loved him, *and out of Egypt I called my son.*
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Not to mention the messiah making sacrefices FOR HIMSELF (!!) and for the people (Ezekiel 45:17+22).
*God's covenant with His people is eternal as is his law (the Torah)!!*
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*Leviticus 26*
41 Then I too, will treat them as happenstance and bring them [back while] in the land of their enemies. If then, their clogged heart becomes humbled, then, [their sufferings] will gain appeasement for their iniquity,
42 and I will remember My covenant [with] Jacob, and also My covenant [with] Isaac, and also My covenant [with] Abraham I will remember. And I will remember the Land,
43 [For] the Land will be bereft of them, appeasing its sabbaticals when it had been desolate of them, and they will gain appeasement for their iniquity. This was all in retribution for their having despised My ordinances and in retribution for their having rejected My statutes.
44 But despite all this, while they are in the land of their enemies, *I will not despise them nor will I reject them to annihilate them, thereby breaking My covenant that is with them, for I am the Lord their God.*
*Judges 2:1*
1 And a messenger of the Lord went up from Gilgal to Bochim and said (in God's name), "I will take you up from Egypt and I have brought you to the land that I have sworn to your forefathers and I said, *'I will not break my covenant with you forever.*
*The eternity of the law:*
*Numbers **15:22*
“‘Now if you as a community unintentionally fail to keep any of these commands the Lord gave Moses- 23 any of the Lord’s commands to you through him, from the day the Lord gave them and continuing *through the generations to come*
*Deuteronomy 5:3*
It was not with our ancestors[a] that the Lord made this covenant, *but with us, with all of us who are alive here today.*
*Psalm 119:89*
*Your word, Lord, is eternal;* it stands firm in the heavens.
*Psalm 119:152*
*Long ago I learned from your statutes that you established them to last forever.*
*See what God tells us:*
*See Hosea 3:4-5:*
4 For the Israelites will live many days without king or prince, without sacrifice or sacred stones, without ephod or household gods. 5 Afterward the Israelites will return and seek the Lord their God and David their king. They will come trembling to the Lord and to his blessings in the last days.
*We sinned, He punishes us, but He will never break his covenant with us - He promised.*
*All other religions are not from God.*
*Jesus was not the promised messiah. He accomplished nothing and according to the NT he made false prophecies and mistakes !*
*You are worshiping a false God.*
*No vicarious atonement at the end of days*
(See how it is attached to 'the new covenant prophecy' you were fooled to think as your own..)
*Jeremiah 31:*
29 “In those days people will no longer say, ‘The parents have eaten sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge.’
30 Instead, *everyone will die for their own sin;* whoever eats sour grapes-their own teeth will be set on edge.
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*No Vicarious atonement at all.*
*Ezekiel 18:4*
"For everyone belongs to me, the parent as well as the child-both alike belong to me. *The one who sins is the one who will die."*
*Deuteronomy 24:16*
"Parents are not to be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their parents; *each will die for their own sin."*
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*The reinstatement of sacrefices at the end of days*
*Ezekiel 37:*
24 *And David my servant shall be king over them;* and they all shall have one shepherd: *they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.*
*Jeremiah 17:*
And they shall come from the cities of Judah, and from the places about Jerusalem, and from the land of Benjamin, and from the plain, and from the mountains, and from the south, *bringing burnt offerings, and sacrifices, and meat offerings, and incense, and bringing sacrifices of praise,* unto the house of the Lord.
27 But if ye will not hearken unto me *to hallow the sabbath day,* and not to bear a burden, even entering in at the gates of Jerusalem on the sabbath day; then will I kindle a fire in the gates thereof, and it shall devour the palaces of Jerusalem, and it shall not be quenched.
*Isiah 56:*
6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the Lord, to serve him, and to love the name of the Lord, to be his servants, *every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;*
Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: *their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.*
*Isiah 60:*
7 All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered together unto thee, the rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee: *they shall come up with acceptance on mine altar,* and I will glorify the house of my glory.
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Jacob's name indeed was changed to Israel (It means: Strived with GOD and with men, and have prevailed)
The assumption that the name Israel referred only to blood relatives of the man Israel is just an assumption - The Bible don't state that. Anyone that "Strived with GOD and with men, and have prevailed" can be called "Israel" by definition.
The descendants of Jacob and the "people of Israel" is not the same thing. Nowhere in the Bible you can find it saying that it is. The person presenting this is confusing some manmade seminary assumptions (classical Hebrew parallelism) with what the Bible is actually saying.
Notice that on Exodus 19 there is an "IF" and "THEN" statement. So, if the people did "obey and keep MY covenant" then GOD would reward them by making them a "treasured possession, a kingdom of priests and a holy nation".
Please notice that nowhere in the Bible the covenant is referred to as a "mosaic" covenant. This is also another made-up thing that have infiltrated into seminaries and unfortunately is repeated by many as if it was true.
On 7:20 this person confuses what is written on Exodus 4:22-23. The correct understanding of this passage is clearly outlined on Exodus 4:22-23 itself "Israel is my firstborn" - it is simply saying that Yeshua is GOD's "firstborn" (see Hebrews 8:29) - Yeshua being the likely person whose Jacob contended with before he became Israel. What amazes me by the contortionism that some do to understand what is not written in the Bible clearly. They find hard to understand that Yeshua was never born - HE is GOD and eternal. Another fallacy of these seminary teachers is to referred to the Tanach as the "Old Testament". There's no such thing as an old testament and a new testament - those entries you see in the Bible are not inspired by GOD and do not exist on any manuscript. - There is one single testament. They often mistaken a "testament" with a "covenant" when the two are very distinct and their assumptions about them do not exist in the written Bible but rather are another part of the gymnastic they do to explain a house of cards theology they have created. They use words like "mindset" as they pick and choose historic commentary, etc. It is mostly non-sense created to exalt a class of "the ones who understand scriptures" from the people who Scriptures were written for. There's no old promise land and new promise land. Don't fall for it. That's purely made-up.
The switcheroo happens when this person tries to interpret Paul's words on Romans 9 and tries to dissociate "the children of the promise" which has been and will always be "the children of the promise" regardless of their nationality and background. It was by faith that Abraham believed in GOD and the promise came to the descendants of Abraham who was himself a descendant of Adam. Paul was simply stating a fact, NOT a new understanding of a NEW FACT from what was said by GOD previously. GOD's plan was and has always been to save humanity from the separation we caused when we sinned. This person is so confused and these explanations - although popular - are a dangerous if not malicious way to interpret what is written. Paul never introduced anything new to the Bible because it wasn't his job to do so. Paul was well aware of his goal to bring the good news (Yeshua birth, death and resurrection) to the gentiles. Paul presented his understanding and when you read his understanding UNDER what was previously presented by the FATHER and the SON, then you actually understand what Paul wrote. It is important to understand that Paul was a sinner. From the day he was born to the day he died. He considered himself a major sinner that required a "torn on the flesh" to remind him everyday of who he was. His assignment was to bring the Gospel (the good news) to the gentiles. Christianism have turned Paul into their god and they can't defend their faith or theology without a distorted presentations of what Paul "said" and for sure they stay away from observing what Paul actually did in his life. Paul was chosen by Yeshua to bring the Gospel to the gentiles. When you read the Holy Scriptures you must understand the hierarchy of authority: Above all is what GOD the FATHER said, wrote and did; Followed by Yeshua and what He said and did. And followed by the Holy Spirit actions and down the line to all the patriarchs, prophets, apostles, etc. eventually when you come to Paul and his writings and understand his authority you will clearly understand that Paul was a follower of GOD. A believer of Yeshua and a man full of the Holy Spirit - But still a sinner. Paul's word DO NOT overrides what GOD said and wrote or what Yeshua said and exemplified. Again on Romans 9 Paul underlines the importance of faith (which as required by all of humanity since Adam). After all It was misplaced faith that caused Adam and Eve to sin. Faith in GOD requires (since the very beginning to be placed on GOD and GOD alone). The mistaken understanding of what Paul wrote is just a mistake - Faith wasn't a new concept. It was always the requirement. Before the arrival of Yeshua, it was faith in the coming of Yeshua (Salvation), after the resurrection it was faith on Yeshua and until the end it will be faith on Yeshua - Nothing new here. These "misunderstandings" of what Paul said were created by the Hellenistic Jews that lived with the pagans of Greece and then it was augmented by the orthodox church for the purpose of creating a house of cards theology that hinges solely on the words of Paul. So, if you take from this house of cards a card named "Paul", the whole thing collapses as everything else in the Bible do not support this heresy.
At about 20:25 this person takes Romans 11 completely out of context. So, in context the verse says "...if the root is holy, so are the branches" Yeshua is the vine and the "branches" (In Hebrew "netser" Nazarene) referred to the branch of Nazarene which Paul was said to be the leader of the sect of the Nazarenes. The Nazarenes (followers of Yeshua the Nazarene) were also called "Followers of The Way". GOD and Yeshua never created a new religion. The Nazarenes were a branch of the Faith that believed in the One True God - At the time written - that was Judaism. Yeshua never gave up Judaism and to this day He still identifies himself the "Lion of the tribe of Judah" (See the book of revelations) Again, Romans 11 is about faith that you are holding on to the promise of Messiah. When it comes to the argument for keeping or not keeping the law please understand that GOD's word is eternal and the law is also eternal. If you think you can get to GOD and not keep HIS law you don't have Love. As Faith and hope will pass away but Love will remain. GOD is Love and as Yeshua is the example to follow. (If you say that you follow Yeshua but have no love you are not following HIM). John 14:15-31 "If you love me, keep my commandments", those words came to us from Yeshua (Salvation) Himself. The difference is that the law is not a burden to the believers. But, today's Christians think that the law was abolished and done away with. The Bible tells us that without the law there's no sin. Sin by definition is a violation of the law of GOD. This person says on 29:24 that the law was given to the nation of Israel. That's is contrary to what the Bible says. The law was given to humanity - Yes the nation of Israel is a part of humanity. The point of the law is to keep us on The Way back to GOD's love. Yeshua's sacrifice fulfilled the law - but did not abolished the law. This is clearly seen as you read Scriptures and realize that ALL of the apostles, disciples and followers of Yeshua kept the law. They kept the Sabbath as Holy to the LORD just as prescribed to them in Genesis AND they did that AFTER Yeshua's resurrection and ascension back to GOD. The preaching of a life of lawlessness that you hear on Christianity is satanic because only satan hates the law of GOD. Again, this hate for the law is a corner stone of the house of cards that composes today's Christianity. That's one of the reasons why there's NO difference between Christians and non-Christians in divorce, the way they behave, dress, lie, deceive, etc. They think that saying a couple words and going to a Sunday church will save them because their magic Jesus will save them even if they are exactly the same before and after their "conversion". This is non-sense. Yeshua paid the full price for you to see the example and to follow HIS Way - not your own way. It is impossible to please a just GOD with the pagan practice of lawlessness. So, practice your Love for your Savior by doing what HE did and not doing the things HE told you not to do. When you understand and behave this way you will be keeping HIS commandments and HIS love will cover you when you fail - That's Grace. But, if you choose to embrace lawlessness you will be excluding yourself from the new Heaven and the Earth. Behold the LORD is coming back soon for his people. Rev 21:1-6
about the 'mixed multitude' coming out of Egypt, 99.9% died in the Wilderness and were never Saved.
I see no mention of 99.9%. God says with many of "them" all those who came out of Egypt God was not well pleased. They could not enter in because of unbelief.
In Corinthians Paul cites the children of Israel falling and being slayed in the wilderness again as a warning and an example to all of us.
@@heather602 Ok 99% - Surely none of the men who came up from Egypt, from twenty years old and above, shall see the land of which I swore to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, because they have not wholly followed Me, except Caleb…and Joshua…for they have wholly followed the LORD. (Numbers 32:11-12) ---- Joshua and Caleb were the only adult Israelites in that first generation who went "into the fullness" of God's calling
Add to that, that only a remnant returned from Babylonian captivity (and Assyrian captivity), and only a remnant saved from pre 70AD Israel.
By 70AD, the original Israelites were rapidly approaching a population of zero.