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Monique and Sammy: Mixing Business and Pleasure | Family or Fiance S2 E10 | Full Episode | OWN
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
- A power couple in the restaurant industry yearns to find more intimacy in their relationship before saying "I do." But while the bride turns to her sister for comfort, the groom fantasizes about keeping her family permanently out of their business. (Original air date: September 25, 2021)
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Monique and Sammy: Mixing Business and Pleasure | Family or Fiance S2 E10 | Full Episode | OWN
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when a romantic partner wants to isolate you from your family that's a HUGE red flag
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Thank you. That therapist needs replacing
I have been there and seen others go there. Each time the partner becomes possessive, jealous, and controlling.
It would depend if the family is coming from a healthy place. Some families insert themselves too much into their personal business .
Huge. He literally wants to move her away
He needs therapy.
Walk off count 3 lol
🥴
Yes
Big time.
If you're not good with your Kids, I can't rock with you.That is a huge turn off
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Found her Instagram and soooo happy she got out of this unhealthy relationship 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾and is married to another man
@TeniqueSpeaks Thanks for the update! I will be honest, I was hoping that they would work through their issues and make the marriage work. Childhood trauma is real and he needs help and Mo seemed willing to stand by him while he learns new ways of relating to others. Anyway we wish them well.
What is the name of her instagram?
@@mangoyachoThe problem with helping him to deal with his trauma is that it can create trauma for her. That possessiveness, those outbursts, his belief that he is entitled to all of her attention is burdensome. It's draining. It creates too much conflict and drama and gets in the way of her opportunities for personal growth. She'd be too busy trying to fix him to have peace. I'm sooo glad she made the choice to drop that heavy load
So glad to hear she got out of it
Oh wow! Damn I wasn’t expecting that! 😂
30 secs in - he’s not the one! She needs a family oriented man that’s not here to belittle her.
She got that now. She looks so happy
@@paigejohnson71she married someone else?
He’s afraid that her family is smart enough to figure him out
@@paigejohnson71 she married someone else?
@@brielax4441yes
He doesn't get it. His lack of genuine, nurturing, loving family experiences is not her story. It's his, and he needs to deal with it.
BUT he has two daughters. He should have learned "genuine, nurturing, loving family experience" as a father. At this point, he is using his "traumatic" childhood as an excuse to be stubborn, selfish, and self-righteous.
You are soooooo right, he needs to heal, why do people get into relationships without healing first? Now that person has to deal with it, it's sad.
Agreed. You said it best. She deserves someone who aligns with her values
Yes he needs to address his childhood issues but the fact that them two are engaged means his issues is now also her issues because it affects their relationship now and in the future.
he just wants her all to himself
It’s like he’s mad that his family wasn’t connected like the brides family. But instead of going “my childhood was bad and I need help” he makes it seem like everyone else in the wrong for not struggling/living like he did.
Such a good point.
This ‼️
Believe it or not, that's a whole lot of people's stories.....
She’s a complete DOLL and she deserves the same kind of love that she gives! ❤
Somebody who is that quick to anger and lash out. No!
He is jealous of her having a family
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Right!!! She’s too pretty to be dealing with his bs
@@Makavellah001 Looks has nothing to do with it. It's all about self esteem.
It's WEIRD
Exactly!!
This lady deserves an award she so patient and nurturing. She deserves so much more because shes gonna spend her life having to nuture him and feed his needs.
Can we talk about how respectful and understanding her son is? Great job mama hes going places
He's extremely self centered and seems jealous of her relationship with her family. Just because he has a fragmented relationship with his family, he wants her to be the same. THAT'S unhealthy and dysfunctional. Seems like he needs anger management also
It’s not just about her family. It’s about everyone. He does not want her to be accessible to anyone else. Seems driven by insecurity.
This! Well said! He seems as though he isn’t good with any relationships . Family friends, even his own daughters. I wonder what type of boss is he
He needs help...period! Everyone just cannot be for each other.
WHEN KIARA SAID JUST BECAUSE HE PROVIDES THAT ISNT LOVE I FELT THAT
He doesn’t understand what he never had. I really hope he sought therapy and found healing from his childhood trauma.
Yes we can’t expect him to give was he doesn’t have.
I'm so proud of Connie's reaction - she could've been so selfish and pulled the "I'm your sister, I've been here before him" card. Such a beautiful thing to see. Love these gorgeous ladies!
Oops never mind 😂😂😂😂
@@Candicewallace444😂😂😂
Me and my sisters cant spend a day without talking to eachother,we lean on eachother for love and support. I rather die before any man break that bond between us. This man is sick
I wouldn't break that family bond either
I’m the oldest of my siblings and extremely close w/my sister’s - However, I’ve learned to set healthy boundaries that work for us all.
Yesssss!!!! No man should be jealous as long as she respect your relationship that’s all that matters! Women have to isolating yourself from your loving family!
I am the same with my brothers! We talk all the time. I'm not gonna let any man come between a love and bond my mom nurtured. Wth
I really don’t respect the fact that he expects people to endure what he had to . He called his daughter weak …. What in the world . And people wonder why black women are so STRONG
RIGHTTTT RIGHHTTTT THIS
He can’t keep walking out. He need to stay and communicate.
He comes back in to continue the conversation though.
Hes not realizing that he's doing the samething his family did to him. They weren't there but he needed them, his children need him but he only provides for them.
Hurt people hurt people. I hope he’s doing better.
And his daughters especially Kiara 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Looking at his nails and how he bite them down, he suffering internally. I hope he gets help.
He loves her, he’s trying. Childhood trauma is hard to work through, but you’ve got to. Preferably before saying “I do”.
He keeps walking off...
That’s probably what he knows to run or in his childhood people kept running out on him. He needs major trauma therapy
At what point in him walking away did u see an effort being made on his part 🤔
I dated a guy like this and I had to walk away. It was draining because he would become jealous of me being with my family
@@Amazing.Grace37 If he’s willing to seek the help support him!! I wanted badly to support my ex but he was ok being in his toxic ways so I had to go.
Both of my brothers married women like this. It's so foreign to me
Ruuuuuuuuun.
Its only a matter of time before he isolates whomever he is with
NARC IN THE HOUSE!!!!!!
He's cringey af. 🙄
I was annoyed for the beginning.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 And is!
He’s damaged
The fact that he is jealous of her own sister is bizarre she deserves better!!!
That man has serious issues, how is he getting mad because his fiancé is helping out her sister?? That should make him happy that if his daughters ever needed similar help they could find support in his soon to be wife…
It’s an issue of who is her #1 focus. When you marry your spouse should be your #1 not saying sisters, brothers, and even children are not part of the circle. When minor children are involved the dynamic is different and a lot trickier because minor children must always be the primary focus of the parents. The groom needs therapy to heal his broken childhood before he is prepared for marriage and Connie will have to find her place with Monique if they go ahead with the wedding. Monique and her sister can still stay close but she will need to accept the couples union as their primary focus and see them as one after the vows, and that can be difficult when the two sisters were previously each others primary go to person. Wish them all Blessings and Love regardless .
He needs therapy.. men and women like this will make your life hell because you’ll always be on edge not knowing what’s going to trigger them.
You ain't told no lies 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Exactly!!
This show is really exposing how many men are really just big kids who’s got no business being in relationships before they deal with their issues. And they attach themselves to women they want to heal them.
🗣🗣🗣🗣 especially black men
This dude is a narcissist that controls her with their business relationship
He’s trying to isolate her 💔
Then he will fully control her 💔
He is not emotionally equipped enough for a marriage
I think he’s getting there though.
His childhood traumatized him deeply but he's a grown man with responsibility so he needs to do lots of hard work to heal himself before putting others..
Monique is a great person with great personality and she should look for someone else who has the same value in life..
I agree with the first part of what you said but if he ends up doing the work acknowledging what his true issues are and seriously working to try to fix them
@@queenclarke1 Well, it doesn't rule out the possibility that they will build a happy family together and they both have the right to be happy in life but character is still character so it doesn't rule out the possibility that the same issue will happen again.. Wish them both the happiest ending..
His upbringing messed him up bad bad
Nope. He needs to let her go. She is LOVED by her family and he HATES that and blames HER for HIS jealousy towards her family cuz he wasn't shown that kinda love growing up and would rather take it from her than face his problems 🙄 RUN.
OR she needs to walk away
@@ebbyf294 I said that. Thus the "RUN" at the end of my comment.
He seems jealous of that shid instead of embracing it.. didn’t have that family structure coming up then… u might get it now if you ALLOW IT.
Adverse Childhood Events (ACEs) take a lot to work through. Reflection, honesty, and therapy are extremely crucial.
I don't understand the comment about the sister being the primary source. Seems like he twisted it where regular interactions are too much because he doesn't understand vulnerability. Or healthy bonds. Look how he treated
He needs therapy
He is a narcissist with a very controlling demeanor. He will separate her from everyone & slowly drain her. He is a broken demon that needs to face his own issues
If a man wants to be with his woman his crazy
He is, I dated and married someone like this. It was never enough. Isolated friends and family, while devaluing me. Smh
I totally agree, I started to pin the same message.
Narcissists don't acknowledge their wrongs or try to make corrections. He has trauma...and serious attachment/abandonment issues but he's not a narcissist. Needs a lot of therapy!
6 yrs with this controlling weirdo 😂 she got patience. I'll be scare to have kids with him. Why she cant help her sister?
Right
No. Not helping her sister, taking so much time. She admits that the one letter she had to write for her took quite a bit of time. She was writing it and rewriting it. And I know that their jobs aren’t just 40 hour jobs. So any extra time she had was away from the relationship.
@@gailsmith836but did it take away anything specifically from
Him? Doubt it. Does seems controlling for real but I read they didn’t get married and she is married to someone else but who knows
But y is he mad at Connie for what she's doing. Connie didn't say do it and neglect your relationship too @@gailsmith836
The Daughter and Father hug was so Amazing!!! ❤❤❤
We have to give people grace and time to heal. We all have wounds that we covered up and treated. They are going to be ok.
People can & will have as much time as they need if they stopped hopping in relationships, knowing they need to heal
She compromised her relationship with her sister for this hurt insecure man and his relationship with his daughter got better?? Shame on Monique.
Isolation
Do not judge a book by the cover. Proud of you Sammy❤
He is trying all his trauma considered
That’s what I see, he made progress in just that little amount of time.
He's selfish but he's open to making the correct changes.
No.
He isnt
@@kgbrown5563Yes. You people are selfish.
What did he say or do that made you feel like he’s open 😂😂😂 he little said verbally he wants her to himself
Lord I’m just confused on why this woman would want to marry this broken man 😢This is sad to watch.
He’s stuck in his ways and should try to get the help he needs.
He's suffocating
He worried about her family and he needs to worry about him and his kids.
Her family could be the family that he’s never had. Nor has his daughters had… If he doesn’t want it at least try for the kids, the girls want a family.
He comes across mean and controlling.
Very
I love this show!!!! It feels like I'm getting therapy too sometimes😅
When someone says maybe they can take our brain out and put a new one, even they know they're mental
I looked her up. She is married to someone else and looks REALLY happy
I hope they don’t get married! Allow him to marry someone who’s broken without love.
She is with the right one now. She looks so happy
@@paigejohnson71what’s her IG? I’m nosey lol
Being raised on love vs Being raised on survival smh
He needs deep therapy.
Monique"s family is exactly what Sammy family needs. I wish them well 🙏
All I can say is why does she want somebody like Him... He is BROKEN....
She's broken, that's why she's ok with it
To try fix him
They are no together anymore!!! Didn't see that coming...it was a joke
How do you know. Where did you see it. I wanna see. Lol
Ohhhh nvm. I see her instagram
@@paigejohnson71what’s her instagram im happy for her, she will find better
@@paigejohnson71what’s her Instagram ?
@@paigejohnson71 lmaoooo it's the first video for me 😂❤ I am glad she got away and he look better
He’s extremely manipulative. “You’re gonna leave me. I don’t want to go deep.” That’s a form of control. He pushes people away then gets mad at them because they stay away. He’s exhausting me!
Oh they own milk and honey. That’s a hard spot to get into here in Atlanta also they were the 1s behind the viral Kieth Lee experience he had here in Atlanta, they messy and petty 😂😂
not true, Milk and Honey is her cosmetics brand 😂😂😂
@@mrspaceforevershe owns a restaurant called Milk and Honey. I researched.
@@mathmommy she sold it in 2020. She lives in MD and owns a restaurant there.
He’s so jealous of the love she gives and receives in her family. Helping your family is not abnormal hun.
He always walking off
This guy is not terrible. I relate to his story a lot. He just needs to continue doing the work he has started.
They're both right and wrong! There does need to be boundaries and it's okay if you have a close relationship with your family. There's no such thing as a perfect relationship. Marriage is not the end goal, it's the starting line!
Whew, what an Episode 😅😫 I’m so happy Monique left him alone and married someone else much more family oriented 🤞🏾♥️ that man needs healing 🤦🏾
❤❤❤wheew chile
I don’t she needs to do any work ,I feel like he is the one that is not ready .
They ended up splitting up and shes now married to a wonderful man ❤
This show was moreso for him and his daughter and for him to see his past.....
Mighty funny how now her sister and her relationship is strained but he's good with his folks! Guess he's happy that he has separated her from her family!
I will not marry anyone that doesn't like my family or my family doesn't like them. It breeds contention.
Please do an update show
She's moved on. 😊
Get th away from this man! Talking bout he wants something that belongs to him..she's not a possession, she's a person! Did he not know she had family or other people she cared about and vice versa? He wants to isolate her.
He is not scared to lose her. He is scared to lose free labor 🤷🏽♀️
What a STIFLING man!
I feel like he was kinda right about the sister she does seem to want to have more access then she should to her sister now that she’s getting married
Speaking from experience if the potential spouses can't get along with the others families genuinely and the families don't get along...it is probably won't work and will cause consistent strain on the relationship.
He has issues always walking away
Ladies! Women ! If you have a loving family please don’t let a man take you away from your loving family! Some men can get really jealous of your family!!! ITS SCARY!!!!
I’m so slow, it took me YEARS to realize the host/therapist is AA 😂😂
DON’T FEEL BAD,I JUST REALIZED THAT ABOUT A MONTH AGO 🤦🏾♀️😂
I can’t tell 😅😅
Don't be hard on yourself. Looking at her, one really cannot tell
What's AA
So glad she's happily married to someone else. He needs more work on himself. And I hope he finds a good woman once he has worked on himself.
S/o to Sammy 🎉 I saw major growth here
This episode was great, I think he communicated his fears on the couch really well.
This episode was a train wreck. They came on the wrong show! He needs therapy. He should’ve went on Iyanna fix my life.
When a partner pushes you away from your family no matter what it’s unhealthy.
The sister should’ve made sure mama had a good wig (hat)🤣
i feel for this man... he has lost so much,he is so afraid to lose more in a season of his life when he feels like he should be controlling what happens to him unlike before. those calling him a red flag are cruel. His pain doesnt make him a lost cause
This was such a beautiful and mature episode. I cried practically the entire episode. I've never seen such growth in one episode. Cheers to the happy couple and I pray for their continue growth. 💟
Sammy, you don’t even realize how strong you are, KING!!! Let those tears flow because the end result is CLARITY AND HEALING!!!!!
This is one of the most depressing episodes.. He needs a lot of therapy before thinking of walking down an aisle. Her family’s concerns are valid. I’d run not walk🚩
My family gotta be on this show🤣
Wtf, so she can’t write a letter to help her sister out. Nahhhh Sir you bugging
He is horrible. I would run!
Nobody is perfect.
At first I saw his struggles. Then I saw he was bending when he looked into himself and cried. They will be a perfect, once her family accepts that he is trying.
He has pushed everyone away,his kids,Monique and her family.
He needs further counseling.