On point! I wish they'd trade the Trail Tech rights for Shot with Skidoo... seems like everyone would win. BUT THE BRAKE PROGRAMMING HAS TO CHANGE, mine has gone into limp mode twice on steep pulls only to leave me in a precarious position... THE BRAKE PROGRAMMING HAS TO CHANGE
Bring back the p85 clutch ,Brakes need to be upsized if there going to be kept on the Jackshaft, Having a Quality control team going over every sled that leaves the factory!!
How about snow checks sleds showing up before in season ones? not to mention getting them at the beginning of the season. So maybe having only enough snow check sleds they can get out there in time to ride and if they can't maybe some compensation. Like more warranty.
I have the same issues with the check engine light and 7S display on my 22 VR1 650. The dealer had said the check engine light issues they have only been seeing on mountain sleds so I will see what happens when I bring it in.
I have had the same issue with the GPS on my 7S only to find the connection from the screen to the antenna was not properly secured. I took the time to unplug and firmly re-plug it (all while adding dielectric grease), and that seemed to fix the issue. I hope this can help you and some viewers. Great vidoes!
The last few seasons, I've grown tired of sledding with Polaris riders, as we spend so much time on fixing issues, towing, scouting for spare parts and what not. They ride like nothing else, but the quality is sometimes just horrible considering the price. Been riding Sidewinders for the last 6 years, lots of fun but the weight kills you.. ;) Was interested in a Polaris instead but all the issues made me jump to BRP for now, and fingers crossed, no incidents so far.
We had those issues with a new boost , we had to take it in 4 times to the dealership and than Polaris refunded us and I got a 9R with no 7s display . I haven’t had an issue yet .
My 23 xcr 850 hasn’t had any issues (knock on wood) have 400 miles on it running up and down the river , a lot of wide open pulls and when my kids with me a lot of slow riding, I changed plugs not of necessity but because I was past the time of break in that they over oil and gas , they didn’t look the least bit bad , had a nice darker tan but not black, I’ve also ridden a few times in negative 10F has always started even coming out of -25 from the night before , I cover the sled every day but it sleeps out side, I hope I don’t have the issues the comments are having it would be frustrating since people buy new not to have issues.
A clutch that isn’t exploding every couple hundred miles…. Maybe a box of spark plugs. I don’t know why people would even both with Poo anymore. Quality has plummeted.
@@wasupfool5692 That is 100% inaccurate. They had their own version of stop ride - which was posted in a hard-to-find bulletin on their website. Their drivers ratchet, forcing guys to run their tracks at extreme tensions and thus, breaking the fiberglass rods. They’ve had ECM and misc. electrical issues, they’ve had reed failures and QC issues. Again, they’ve had a much worse year than Polaris despite their shitty P22 clutches and plug fouling.
@Uncle Deez. Lol no chance skidoo had a worse year than Polaris. They’ve had their issues for sure, but they’re way more reliable than Polaris with literal basic maintenance.
Powder bog Charge tube Intake vents Bottom end clutching Shot start Fuel can Bar set up / sloppy steering post Snowcheck delivery- what happened to getting snowchecks by November now your lucky to see new sled by February
No Shot Start but they're guaranteeing ship by Nov 30th or $1500 back. Looks like another year of pull starting. I don't mind an upper body workout lol
I’ve had this issue twice and my dealer tells me that they are ordering new exhaust valve actuator. When dealer called Polaris this is what they were told because Polaris hasn’t seen this issue before. Also this only happened after brake recall was done.
How about actually getting the color you want, I tried snow checking a 2024 Adventure in Black right around $18 k with some options, I sent to local dealer and they informed me they weren’t allocated black ?? Did I want Blue! Great Customer service, snow check hasn’t even ended and I couldn’t order the color I wanted, was also looking to buy 2 other sleds They let over $55k worth of sales go
I was hoping they’d bring back the Voodoo blue this year! Black on black is probably the best overall though. Looks great. You might be able to trade side panels etc with someone
The brake LIMP mode on my '22 Khaos Matryx Slash 165 ruins almost every ride... that needs a different a different software fix. "Hold on, let me restart it to reset it..."
Allthough it will not fix the root problem, you can reboot the display without shutting down the engine. When you hold down the middle button for four seconds, the 7s will reboot and display the missing information when it starts again
The problems are real. A friend of mine and his son have 2 new 2023 xcr 650 sleds. One of the crankbearings failed on one machine. The other machine blew the jackshaft, and the engine light came on 3 times. Both brand new $23000.00 dollar machines with both less than 600km. Unacceptable. Polaris needs to stop mass producing and get all these issues fixed right. Unfortunately their sleds are parked for the season because the parts are of course backordered and dealerships overwhelmed with to many new machines waiting for service. A lot of polaris riders I've spoken to on the trail are seriously considering switching brands if this continues. Brand new sleds are not supposed to break down when being broken in.
@@JasonCaville have any issues like this been reported in 2021 & 2022?. 3rd year in production you would think that these issues would have happened sooner. The 2024 lineup was released yesterday and from what I read these problems have been improved or fixed. They are working hard with their suppliers are doing everything they can. For what these machines cost they should to run for years and thousands of miles before stuff like this happens.
The Boondock Nation boys had their G5's stuck for a SOLID two months due to electrical issues. And that was after a blown chain case and punctured cooler. Sure I'm missing something else there too...
Fuck if no changes im getting a doo , even though they have there complications. 2022 was my first polaris i am happy with it , but also not running extremely aggressive. Running with 2.5 ft of snow some areas , most packed.
@@dangriesemer3710 Did you miss the part where I said that parts are backordered and ruining people's seasons? Clutch can be replaced on the hill too. I'm not excusing Polaris' clutch failures, I've said numerous times that they had better address the P22, but I'll take a clutch failure over a backordered chain case all day every day. And the best part is it sounds like these chain cases are failing because Doo shipped the sleds with the wrong chain installed - so have fun with that. lol
Been riding my khaos and so has my riding partner for 300 hours and haven’t set off one warning yet quit braking and gassing at the same time it’s not that hard…
They make small improvements each year, like the new brake, better anti-stab kit and the better calibration on the boost. Just wish we could get the updates on our older sleds!
@@JasonCaville all companies should and do update their products but that's not what i'm referring to. i'm talking about polaris' abysmal quality control which leads to how many recalls and stop rides? guys are losing their limited snow time thru no fault of their own.
The P22 clutches MUIST be addressed. These things are dropping like flys. And the plug fouling as you kinda touched on is out of control - especially on the 9R's. On the other hand, I think Polaris has had a WAAAY better year than Ski Doo has. Their exploding chain cases are sending people home early due to backordered parts, reeds are failing, tracks stretching and break, ECM and misc. electrical issues. At least the Polaris clutches can be replaced on the mountain - good luck replacing a blown-out chain case on the mountain. AND Doo didn't address them for 24'. Which is total bullshit to me. At least they updated their drivers to combat the ratcheting.
They did address the chains and gears for 24, just been kept on the DL, all summits will be getting Rexnord Aurora chain and gears, apparently stronger than the Borg Hyvo stuff
Lmao I'm dieing watching this such a fail in producing a snowmobile for consumers imagine having those issues put on a beautiful snowing day 😅 just the fact of unplugging a connection just to get it to run I'm surprised they didn't add that in the factory manual 😅 🙃 😂....luckily I did my research and if u your going to get anything nowadays go with a skidoo.....or get a rowdy cat 🐈 😻...I was fortunate enough to get a riot 9000 Atac cat 4 stroke the machine is a beast and have had zero issues with it I feel like Polaris is falling apart in the sled world and there focusing quality on there off road sections of atv and rzr products...stick to Yamaha cat or skidoo as there always coming out with quality and new technology that works correctly fuck Polaris sleds I sold mine and the reason was always fouling plugs and very un balanced sled too tippy not to mention if u buy a sled with fuel injection and still have to burb the throttle to fire it up its junk I also have a 2013 800r etec has 6700 around kms haven't changed one set of plugs and starts on a dime 😉
25k for a na 2 stroke 9r is laughable. Problem is, dumb people keep buying them......all the manufacturer has to do is present some old technology that has been shelved for a few years and the dopes eat it up. 3.25" lug is a great example. Next is going from the 850 to 900.. there were big displacement engines all over the snowmobiling market 15 years ago. I love my Alpha with a turbo. It's been pull and go for 1200 miles without an issue.......OC Cat won't even release Catalyst with an engine bigger than 600......I'm pretty disappointed by all sled manufacturers right now.
I want to ride that Catalyst. Sounds like it’s pretty fun to ride. Cat is working on a bigger displacement motor and hopefully it’s released in the Catalyst next year
Jesus…. But a different brand. $20k snowmobile doesn’t start, gauge sucks, overheats, brakes overheat, the “great “ display never works right lol… wtf lol.
All that useless technology needs to be put in the trashcan where it belongs, the less sensors and computers on board the better, there's absolutely no excuse for a brand new machine to have so many problems, this is a perfect example of them taking shortcut during durability and reliability testing.
That's great and all, but when the EPA demands these regulations, well then you get sensors. You think the manufactures enjoy putting all these emissions on their sleds?? lol
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On point! I wish they'd trade the Trail Tech rights for Shot with Skidoo... seems like everyone would win. BUT THE BRAKE PROGRAMMING HAS TO CHANGE, mine has gone into limp mode twice on steep pulls only to leave me in a precarious position... THE BRAKE PROGRAMMING HAS TO CHANGE
This would be a great trade. And allow Ski-doo sleds to be visible with the buddy tracker!
Bring back the p85 clutch ,Brakes need to be upsized if there going to be kept on the Jackshaft, Having a Quality control team going over every sled that leaves the factory!!
How about snow checks sleds showing up before in season ones? not to mention getting them at the beginning of the season.
So maybe having only enough snow check sleds they can get out there in time to ride and if they can't maybe some compensation. Like more warranty.
Straight up reliability
I have the same issues with the check engine light and 7S display on my 22 VR1 650. The dealer had said the check engine light issues they have only been seeing on mountain sleds so I will see what happens when I bring it in.
Hopefully a quick fix
I have had the same issue with the GPS on my 7S only to find the connection from the screen to the antenna was not properly secured. I took the time to unplug and firmly re-plug it (all while adding dielectric grease), and that seemed to fix the issue. I hope this can help you and some viewers. Great vidoes!
Great tip! I’ll have to check mine
The last few seasons, I've grown tired of sledding with Polaris riders, as we spend so much time on fixing issues, towing, scouting for spare parts and what not. They ride like nothing else, but the quality is sometimes just horrible considering the price. Been riding Sidewinders for the last 6 years, lots of fun but the weight kills you.. ;) Was interested in a Polaris instead but all the issues made me jump to BRP for now, and fingers crossed, no incidents so far.
🤞hoping this year is better! I’m a big fan of the way the Khaos rides
@@JasonCaville I've tried a 2023 and it handles so well, but I'm not a mechanic so I'll stick around until Polaris has sorted out a few quirks ;)
I hope that that come in before February
Don’t sell your sled!
BTW. Perfect timing for this video right b4 the Poo 2024 release. It makes buyers think twice about avoiding a headache.
I’m hoping most of these issues get resolved soon! I love the sled otherwise
@@JasonCaville I would buy their products again if they improved the quality. I had to walk away after so many issues I had to correct on my dime$.
We had those issues with a new boost , we had to take it in 4 times to the dealership and than Polaris refunded us and I got a 9R with no 7s display . I haven’t had an issue yet .
Liking the 9R? Miss the boost?
The Hot Shot was the main reason I bought Skidoo over Polaris, and my friend's 900R broke crankshaft at 6.4 MILES, LOL
How about the option of not needing to take multiple sets of plugs with you for every ride? That would be awesome.
I pack two sets of spares, for my bike too. Luckily I haven’t fouled any yet.
My 23 xcr 850 hasn’t had any issues (knock on wood) have 400 miles on it running up and down the river , a lot of wide open pulls and when my kids with me a lot of slow riding, I changed plugs not of necessity but because I was past the time of break in that they over oil and gas , they didn’t look the least bit bad , had a nice darker tan but not black, I’ve also ridden a few times in negative 10F has always started even coming out of -25 from the night before , I cover the sled every day but it sleeps out side, I hope I don’t have the issues the comments are having it would be frustrating since people buy new not to have issues.
Nice work taking care of your sled. Sounds like you’re enjoying it!
XM radio would be nice
Lunchtime 🎶!
Looks like they need new primary clutches to from other videos I watch.
Yes, Muskoka Freerider posted an awesome video ruclips.net/video/p7yRBJIVeHs/видео.html
BRP recreational division should buy out Polaris and make a snowmobile out of them again.
That would be a large price tag.
@@JasonCaville BRP has considerable resources.
@@jeffreyhagelin3672 Canadian taxpayer money!
lol HELL no.
Prices are ridiculous especially with the reliability issues
Very expensive. Used sleds too!
Better throttle block that doesn’t freeze up would be nice. They’ve had issues with that forever
Currently looking at the TKI billet throttle block. I had a few sketchy moments last ride when it iced up.
I'm not sure if it will help with the Polaris throttle block issue, but I went with a Munster finger throttle on my 22 Doo. I absolutely love it.
A clutch that isn’t exploding every couple hundred miles…. Maybe a box of spark plugs. I don’t know why people would even both with Poo anymore. Quality has plummeted.
The 9R looks awesome but not sure about the P-22..
BRP has had a much worse year than Polaris has. Like - WAY worse.
@Uncle Deez. Only issue they had was chaincase failures, they were sent out with the wrong chain
@@wasupfool5692 That is 100% inaccurate. They had their own version of stop ride - which was posted in a hard-to-find bulletin on their website. Their drivers ratchet, forcing guys to run their tracks at extreme tensions and thus, breaking the fiberglass rods. They’ve had ECM and misc. electrical issues, they’ve had reed failures and QC issues. Again, they’ve had a much worse year than Polaris despite their shitty P22 clutches and plug fouling.
@Uncle Deez. Lol no chance skidoo had a worse year than Polaris. They’ve had their issues for sure, but they’re way more reliable than Polaris with literal basic maintenance.
I agree on price
I will have to spend less on other things I suppose
Snow check. Get your 24 sled in 25. When u get it there of course will be a recall. I’m running down to the dealer to order mine now.
Keep your current sled until it shows up! I was not that smart and missed out on 2 months of riding
Powder bog
Charge tube
Intake vents
Bottom end clutching
Shot start
Fuel can
Bar set up / sloppy steering post
Snowcheck delivery- what happened to getting snowchecks by November now your lucky to see new sled by February
No Shot Start but they're guaranteeing ship by Nov 30th or $1500 back. Looks like another year of pull starting. I don't mind an upper body workout lol
Number 1 issue delivery on time lol
Need to have your throttle cable recalibrated digital wrench
Good tip, thanks! I’ll mention that to my dealer 👍
I’ve had this issue twice and my dealer tells me that they are ordering new exhaust valve actuator. When dealer called Polaris this is what they were told because Polaris hasn’t seen this issue before. Also this only happened after brake recall was done.
How about actually getting the color you want, I tried snow checking a 2024 Adventure in Black right around $18 k with some options, I sent to local dealer and they informed me they weren’t allocated black ?? Did I want Blue! Great Customer service, snow check hasn’t even ended and I couldn’t order the color I wanted, was also looking to buy 2 other sleds They let over $55k worth of sales go
I was hoping they’d bring back the Voodoo blue this year! Black on black is probably the best overall though. Looks great. You might be able to trade side panels etc with someone
The brake LIMP mode on my '22 Khaos Matryx Slash 165 ruins almost every ride... that needs a different a different software fix. "Hold on, let me restart it to reset it..."
Hopefully a new update coming
Allthough it will not fix the root problem, you can reboot the display without shutting down the engine. When you hold down the middle button for four seconds, the 7s will reboot and display the missing information when it starts again
Good to know!! Thanks 👍
The problems are real. A friend of mine and his son have 2 new 2023 xcr 650 sleds. One of the crankbearings failed on one machine. The other machine blew the jackshaft, and the engine light came on 3 times. Both brand new $23000.00 dollar machines with both less than 600km. Unacceptable. Polaris needs to stop mass producing and get all these issues fixed right. Unfortunately their sleds are parked for the season because the parts are of course backordered and dealerships overwhelmed with to many new machines waiting for service. A lot of polaris riders I've spoken to on the trail are seriously considering switching brands if this continues. Brand new sleds are not supposed to break down when being broken in.
Yikes, sorry to hear about the sled issues!
@@JasonCaville have any issues like this been reported in 2021 & 2022?. 3rd year in production you would think that these issues would have happened sooner. The 2024 lineup was released yesterday and from what I read these problems have been improved or fixed. They are working hard with their suppliers are doing everything they can. For what these machines cost they should to run for years and thousands of miles before stuff like this happens.
@@ianlemieux7208 2022 yes. The main issue is the brake. I really hope Polaris decides to recall all of the brake callipers on our sleds
Don't listen to anyone else experience except for Uncle Deez. Cause ? 🤔😛
So...are you going to SnowCheck a poo?
Don't buy Polaris. Spent a month in the shop this Winter? Great. When it works?
Late start to the season for us too
The Boondock Nation boys had their G5's stuck for a SOLID two months due to electrical issues. And that was after a blown chain case and punctured cooler. Sure I'm missing something else there too...
Mon dieu merci
Je ne veut plus m'en procurer un maintenant
You might get a good one! Never had issues with our 800 Pro-RMKs
You better have a spare clutch. They blow up after two thousand miles
Not a bad idea
Fuck if no changes im getting a doo , even though they have there complications. 2022 was my first polaris i am happy with it , but also not running extremely aggressive. Running with 2.5 ft of snow some areas , most packed.
At least with the Polaris you can fix it on the hill. Doo with an exploding chain case and reed failures - you're calling a chopper.
1 Doo chain case failure vs 9 poo clutch failures this year on Muskoka freerider season between him and his buddy's. Those guys ride hard.
@@dangriesemer3710 Did you miss the part where I said that parts are backordered and ruining people's seasons? Clutch can be replaced on the hill too. I'm not excusing Polaris' clutch failures, I've said numerous times that they had better address the P22, but I'll take a clutch failure over a backordered chain case all day every day. And the best part is it sounds like these chain cases are failing because Doo shipped the sleds with the wrong chain installed - so have fun with that. lol
#1 new feature- Buy a G5 Turbo
Now there’s a sled I’d like to ride for a weekend
If you want to get stuck on the mountain with a grenaded chain case yea - go ahead!!
These kind of issues should not even exist for the ridiculous prices they charge for them.
We’ve had a bit of bad luck for sure
$26,100 for the same exact sled… $3000 more dollars for the same exact problems lol.. this industy is insane with sleds starting at 20000
Been riding my khaos and so has my riding partner for 300 hours and haven’t set off one warning yet quit braking and gassing at the same time it’s not that hard…
I agree, but it has happened to us without touching the brakes and at times when we wanted full power.
Holding the throttle and braking is pretty common in technical mountain riding.
as long as people line up to buy polaris sleds there's no incentive for them to improve their quality.
They make small improvements each year, like the new brake, better anti-stab kit and the better calibration on the boost. Just wish we could get the updates on our older sleds!
@@JasonCaville all companies should and do update their products but that's not what i'm referring to. i'm talking about polaris' abysmal quality control which leads to how many recalls and stop rides? guys are losing their limited snow time thru no fault of their own.
@@jaco177 We have missed so many weekends of riding the last couple years. We wish we would have kept our 2018 sleds as they were issue free!
350 hp with a 4 year warranty
Your dealer never recalibrated all the actuators after flash… you have too
Thanks for the info. Back to the dealer I go…
@@JasonCaville I would call and ask if they did recalibrate. If not that’s probably your answer
@@JulianJohanson 👍it should clear the error code but not sure about the red brake screen coming on when not using the brake.
Keep from tank exploding!!!
Let’s hope that never happens!
Happened to my son. Burned his legs pretty bad. Could have been a lot worse, but lawyers are involved now. Polaris offered him a voucher to shut up.
@@burningrod2 Sorry to hear about that, hopefully he's all healed up.
The P22 clutches MUIST be addressed. These things are dropping like flys. And the plug fouling as you kinda touched on is out of control - especially on the 9R's.
On the other hand, I think Polaris has had a WAAAY better year than Ski Doo has. Their exploding chain cases are sending people home early due to backordered parts, reeds are failing, tracks stretching and break, ECM and misc. electrical issues. At least the Polaris clutches can be replaced on the mountain - good luck replacing a blown-out chain case on the mountain. AND Doo didn't address them for 24'. Which is total bullshit to me. At least they updated their drivers to combat the ratcheting.
They did address the chains and gears for 24, just been kept on the DL, all summits will be getting Rexnord Aurora chain and gears, apparently stronger than the Borg Hyvo stuff
Lmao I'm dieing watching this such a fail in producing a snowmobile for consumers imagine having those issues put on a beautiful snowing day 😅 just the fact of unplugging a connection just to get it to run I'm surprised they didn't add that in the factory manual 😅 🙃 😂....luckily I did my research and if u your going to get anything nowadays go with a skidoo.....or get a rowdy cat 🐈 😻...I was fortunate enough to get a riot 9000 Atac cat 4 stroke the machine is a beast and have had zero issues with it I feel like Polaris is falling apart in the sled world and there focusing quality on there off road sections of atv and rzr products...stick to Yamaha cat or skidoo as there always coming out with quality and new technology that works correctly fuck Polaris sleds I sold mine and the reason was always fouling plugs and very un balanced sled too tippy not to mention if u buy a sled with fuel injection and still have to burb the throttle to fire it up its junk I also have a 2013 800r etec has 6700 around kms haven't changed one set of plugs and starts on a dime 😉
Glad your doo has been solid for you. I wish I could get out that much to put on that many miles!
25k for a na 2 stroke 9r is laughable. Problem is, dumb people keep buying them......all the manufacturer has to do is present some old technology that has been shelved for a few years and the dopes eat it up. 3.25" lug is a great example. Next is going from the 850 to 900.. there were big displacement engines all over the snowmobiling market 15 years ago.
I love my Alpha with a turbo. It's been pull and go for 1200 miles without an issue.......OC Cat won't even release Catalyst with an engine bigger than 600......I'm pretty disappointed by all sled manufacturers right now.
I want to ride that Catalyst. Sounds like it’s pretty fun to ride. Cat is working on a bigger displacement motor and hopefully it’s released in the Catalyst next year
Jesus…. But a different brand. $20k snowmobile doesn’t start, gauge sucks, overheats, brakes overheat, the “great “ display never works right lol… wtf lol.
Avoid Polaris .. lots of problems
Hopefully better in 2024
No mention of standard issue fire extinguisher???
Lol. Should really have one. On my dirtbike too!
All that useless technology needs to be put in the trashcan where it belongs, the less sensors and computers on board the better, there's absolutely no excuse for a brand new machine to have so many problems, this is a perfect example of them taking shortcut during durability and reliability testing.
Very complicated system. The buddy tracking is a game changer though.
That's great and all, but when the EPA demands these regulations, well then you get sensors. You think the manufactures enjoy putting all these emissions on their sleds?? lol