TURBO SHOOTOUT! 2023 Ski Doo Freeride vs 2023 Polaris RMK Khaos Slash
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- Опубликовано: 30 янв 2023
- IT'S SHOOTOUT TIME! Luke and AJ take to the powder with two of this seasons most hotly contested turbocharged sleds, the 2023 Ski Doo Freeride 850 Turbo R 154 and the 2023 Polaris Patriot Boost RMK Khaos Slash 155. See which sled will reign supreme!
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Good shootout guys!!
Im a skidoo guy, but the Polaris screen with GPS and the ability to track other riders is a WAY better!! Sure hope all manufacturers see the SAFETY aspect and communicate location to each other.
I really don’t care which one wins this shootout, cuz I can’t afford either one!
Same.
what 30k isn’t attainable 😂😂
Now that is a mood
Im still rocking my 2002 mxz 700 i really dont have a desire for a new machine. The only advantage they really have is efi.
@@LSDdreams808 Seating position?
Wow, I'm a ski doo guy. I watch you guys all the time and never really see ski doo winning anything, so this is super nice and cool to see it take the win!!
i know im late to this but i find it kinda funny when people say that the ski doo never wins on here, it literally does in their most viewed video!
Good job guys!
My only complaint is that the Poo & Doo techies need to have a chat and get their dashboards to communicate!
For years my riding group has carried Garmin Rhinos to be able to find and keep track of each other but now with this new technology the Rhinos could be obsolete. This is about your buddies safety and we can't all ride the same brand.......otherwise two very capable machines!!
Agreed. I love the Polaris ride command even though I ride a skidoo (well lynx but same thing basically). I bet skidoo could loosen up their shot patent and it would be an excellent bargaining chip.
The add on Trail Tech Voyager Pro gauge/gps will work on any mfg’s sled and interface with each other and the 7s display also
I’d like to add that the production quality of your videos is nearly stunning in execution. From the drone shots, zoom edits, slo mo flybys, etc… these videos are such a pleasure to watch. Well done.
Thank you very much!! 🙏
Thanks . Old school . Hang on . Keep up the great work u all do and . Appreciate it .
You guys should have talked about being on edge with both snowmobiles. Especially on steep slopes and mellow slops and which sled washes out more on steeper slopes and which sled holds an edge better.
From what I’ve heard the pro RMK would hold an edge better then the doo but not the Khaos?
They aren’t extreme riders so they don’t sidehill steeep terrain, they are mellow riders
Love the honest report. You guys always say the way you feel. It is an option but an educated one. As a Cat guy can't wait to see what the new Catalyst comes out with in 2025. Good job fellows
If they don't come out with a Turbo Cat, they should just call it quits.
@@gumballer133
A lot of people rather have NA mountain sleds. $22 vs $28k sled prices.
@@coreykonkin5917 We have 2 of each. The NA sleds are just for friends
@@gumballer133 Well, its just an 858. Should they call it quits? I don't think so, but they certainly have their work cut out for them.
@bedlambikes I have 6 cats currently, bought 5 of them brand new. My customer service sucked. I bought my wife a new 850 turbo summit expert blah blah blah and the dealer is great and the help me out when I need something
Great content, and I totally agree with you guys. I bought the G5 Expert Turbo, have ridden a Polaris boost (liked it a lot), and have pretty much the same observations all around. The Polaris needs a lot of throttle to get on the power, but it's great once you get there and has those legs. G5 is on the boost by 1/4 throttle and the power is shocking yet very linear. I like the G5 Turbo a bit better. Both sleds felt natural to ride for me - not all that different. For me the lack of recalls and the history of reliability of the E-tec motors is also a huge benefit for Skidoo, although that could change in any given year, along with good/bad luck of the draw. Super happy with the total G5 package and TurboR power. It really is a big improvement over G4 without changing too much. First thing I noticed was the handling - kind of crazy how much better it is than before. Love the clutching, the seat, the suspension stiffness. I did ditch the "low" Expert riser and went to the lowest riser available from OEM, about another inch lower. I'm over 6' but low is the way to go - being able to easily change out the riser is a pretty big deal. Ski-Doo adjustable clutching is also a big deal that gets taken for granted, but after my G5 got to about 50% break-in it needed the clickers to be lowered from 3 to 2 to keep it at 7900 RPM. Huge difference in power to the ground after making that slight adjustment.
Can't go wrong with either sled. Both are great.
Just bought a brand new Khaos 154 non turbo 107 miles on it and it won’t run. The dealer says their really busy and will get to it when they can. After the stop ride recalls on my 2020 RMK, my experience with my brand new Khaos and watching this review, I think my days of being a Polaris owner are over. I wish I could get my money back and go buy a Ski Doo. I guess there’s a reason why I can’t find a new Ski Doo at any dealers and have no problem finding any model Polaris at the dealer.
It’s absolutely crazy how much this exact same situation has been happening all over Southern BC. So many of my buddies have switched to Doos in the last 2-3 years and won’t go back. I’m still on my 19 Alpha. Patiently waiting for 2025. 😂
Checked poo with a buddy, both received in mid Jan. Just at the end of break in his track pulley snapped off and ruined tunnel. Done for season. 1 week later my fuel pump took a dump. Polaris back order… probably season over. I’m checking a doo. Not dealing with this anymore. Rode 2 doo’s today and the turbo power is amazing. It comes right on! Love the ergo of poo but I’ll learn it with doo. Have fun and be safe out there! #NeverSummer
The steep & deep! Rocky Mountain style.
I agree with your review. The G5 edges out just about everything on the Polaris except the gauge and maybe the predictability of the Polaris on edge. Man that turbo R pulls hard and runs so clean from bottom to top. And shot is sooo nice.
Did those two Guys tell you can adjust the Fuel you Use? ? No
Yeah yeah yeah Highmark…9R still has my heart 😆.
@@jonathanwheeler9R Jonathan these Guys don’t play Fair. Also there people buying Sheds without doing homework on the Sheds. First which Computer setting for Fuel you Burn. Adjust the dam Shocks dial the Shocks to your weight, and the Dam Snow. Only thing I have they buying Cheap China parts
Awesome videography on this one, guys. That intro was truly beautiful. Great comparison, too!
Thank you!! 🙌
Thank you for an honest review! It's important to hear what the differences are between sleds. Most people rely on this type of feedback to make an informed decision. Next time let's hear the sleds run, rear them as you test them. Great job boys!
What about the Lynx Shredder RE TurboR?
Awesome review guys! 👏 snowtrax is hands down best reviewers in the industry
Am I alone in thinking the Ski Doo looks like Speed McQeens angry little snow mobile brother?
great video, love the honest insight.
Great video ! Both excellent sleds I am a skidoo rider and glad they refined some of the downsides to my current one can’t wait to be able to upgrade to a turbo R G5 despite the headlights lol
Boy you made all those guys that think you’re bias to Polaris happy 😆 Nice honest review! It seems like Polaris tuned their turbo 850 to be safe on the trails which I think is good but maybe they could do a different tune for the mountain sleds?
From everything I've read and heard spot on for both of them.
I really feel like skidoo needs to partner with Garmin and put a Garmin interface in the dash. very similar to what Garmin is doing in the marine industry. Garmin already has tracking capability's so just adapt that for mountain snowmobiling. I think they could make a sweet product together. also riding a 2023 summit expert turbo r sled is un real. lite years ahead of last years model however I prefer 36'' front end.
Now we just need the Freeride Vs Shredder RE comparison 😎
nothing to compare, the shredder re is built a little tougher and has a different suspension otherwise they are the same sled
So much skidoo bias, or wait was it polaris bias I can't remember but it's some bias you guys have lol great vid, production team did amazing and two fun sleds pushing two stroke fun to the max
Good for the manufacturers for thinking ahead on the removable panels for service.
Good piece. Had to chuckle when I got to the end and styling wasn't a category in this shootout.
Man. I've been JONESING for this video.
I grew up riding Polaris, and I guess you'd say I'm a Polaris "guy," but I do agree that the G5 takes the crown in the turbo mountain segment. That doesn't come without an asterisk though.
Longtrack Jack has had a HELL of a time with his G5, Muskoka Freerider's clutch was making terrible noises his first day out. Chain and track tension have needed to be adjusted repeatedly, apparently fuel pumps have started going out as well as Doo having their own recommend "do not ride" until the engine re-flash is done. And that's if the ECM doesn't go out.
It *almost* feels like they were rushed to market to get the sleds into dealerships. Which I can totally appreciate. But makes me wonder if a few things had been overlooked because of it? I was a massive critique of the G5 when it came out, but now it's growing on me and there's no doubt that the turbo R holds the crown for most horsepower. Doo has always had superb fit-and-finish, their engines are buttery smooth, and SHOT is an absolute game changer.
I still think Polaris has the better chassis for mountain riding - I think it still holds an edge better and is more accurate, and I think the 9R is the *ultimate* weapon for tight trees, but I think that's where the Matryx begins and ends with it's shine over the G5. Except for the rider tracking and tapered tunnel obviously.
This was an excellent video gentlemen. I appreciate your honesty and opinions shared. Be safe out there and keep er' pinned!!
Beautiful sleds. Sure have come a long way from the ol days and that 440 Rup I had 😜🤣
Well done guys and I'm not even a mountain sled guy...probably would have been though 😎
Needed a bowl of pop corn for this! Nice production! 👏 👏
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the editing on this is sick
AJ says that the Ski Doo G4 nose/hood comes off using 5 tools and removing up to 20 fasteners to have access to the engine? I can take my G4 apart to get to the engine using only the star bit tip on the secondary clutch belt removal tool that is provided with my sled and removing 6 torx screws sized T25. Did I miss something or do I have that different of a sled?
this makes me happy since i snowchecked an expert for next season. I had a lot of seat time on a 9r and it was fantastic. but something about the Doo made me feel like it was a more solid quality machine.
You can definitely hear the polaris taking a moment to rev
The problem with shot start is it’s $1050cad to replace the capacitor, which seem to be lasting about 3-4 seasons. I’d happily trade off the few lbs of the battery for being significantly cheaper to replace when it goes out in a similar timeframe.
Good job 👍
That was interesting probably on point as well.
Great review I think doo and poo are the top 2 my personal riding and likes I’d still go polaris
Polaris looks sexier and more bad ass. Skidoo does seem more refined though! I just kinda hate those two raccoon eye headlights lol.
I do too! The raccoon eye headlights are tough for me.
Ninja turtle lol
Sleds these days are on another level then 5-10 years ago, i dont think you would be disappointed in either ski doo or polaris to be honest.
When u order the sled you can pick bar heights on the polaris
I feel like you should've touched on the QD2 vs chain case a bit more. Hypothetically something goes wrong in the mountains, I'd much rather just have a spare QD belt than a chain case piling up. I know its not really as common as the older sleds but still possible. Also, with the doos vent placement (by the knees) I've heard of guys breaking them quite easily.
Intro song goes hard😤
Polaris 9R Turbo?
I ride ski doo for a reason reliability an quickly an they offer some of the most advanced machines out there . Since the ski doo rev ski doo has led the industry in innovation an trends.
The Bars: C'mon, you should have mentioned that Polaris offers three different height bars. You are not really stuck swapping bars. And if you buy new bars, they come with the grips already mounted. The 7s deserved more discussion on the group ride feature and the capabilities of tracking rides all without cell service. But no problems with the G5 being awesome.
Exactly. They left a lot of details out to bypass polaris.
what about lynx?
This is really splitting hairs here, can’t go wrong with either!
What about the lynx shredder turbo
Polaris's GPS is so much better. Running the BRP go app is a pain in the ass. I usually don't use it because everytime you stop you have to dig your phone out and unlock it to restart the app. I was disappointed to see they didn't fix this on the new gauge . One other thing to mention. My buddy is a master Polaris tech and they already have 6 blown up 2023 boosts sitting at his shop this year.
i know this is supposed to be a turbo shootout and all but it really would be cool to see a comparison by all the manufacturers mountain machines, like the "3 inch shootout" from 2016. i do still like these videos but it does often feel like the ski doo and polaris show
I’m obviously biased but, the bar riser thing is just lazy reviewing. There are popular companies that make bar risers for these handler bars. You don’t need to buy new bars, heaters, and grips. Not to mention that Polaris offers three different bar heights when snow checking your snowmobile.
And at king of the hill the polaris will mop the floor with the competition as usual
Yeah because the sled drives itself up the hill ?
The biggest problem is you still have zero room to work on the skidoo. Im assuming the oil pump and throttle cables run underneath the motor like they were in 2008. I like to be able to do a top end while the bottom end is in the sled.
Wow Luke, I am surprised you being a polaris guy.
I have owned every year skidoo summits from the first Rev chassis. I also have ridden every rmk every year. And I'm still all skidoo. If I wanted a polaris, I would have one. And I try not to be bias but polaris isn't better for me.
You can download your riding area on your gauge of the Ski-Doo so you don't have to worry about it losing service
The 2028 Polaris RMK khaos slash adrenaline extreme will be sweet
Disagree with the dated look of the Polaris screen! It looks like it belongs there and was truly designed in-house FOR the snowmobile. The ski-doo screen looks like an add-on android tablet.
The Polaris screen was made by trail tech, everyone knows that.
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Idk if you guy’s noticed but you have a headlight out on the ski doo
That’s low beam
Now let's see the 9r vs skidoo boost!
NA vs. turbo? Ummm.....
@cleanrice skidoo doesn't have a 900. They mentioned the lack of low end grunt. The 900 has that.
Would not even be fair. Till you ride a Gen5, you can't explain how quick it spools up and how much more power it has. And yes. I've ridden a 9R
@@kenchiison4570 It SHOULDN'T be fair lol. Turbo vs NA is never a fair comparison unless the NA motor has twice the displacement - especially with these engines where they're operating @ 7,000' or more. This *should* be a no-brainer.
skidoo all the way
In other words the Polaris has turbo lag,
Me-Getting excited to see a turbo shootout in the frist few words :D
Me- Realizing its mtn sleds >:(
What’s wrong with mountain sleds?
Where do you think turbos came from on sleds?
@@duckdestroyer2412 uhh, the trail segment Z1
@Derek Rehm four strokes? Right? Those practically aren't even sleds. Those are snow machines in comparison. Heavy, not very snappy, and kinda boring without said turbo.
@@duckdestroyer2412 🤣🤣🤣🤣💩
The Ski Doo looks like a ninja turtle
And where is the Shredder Turbo R ;)
I'm from near Thief River Falls and I can't help but favor Arctic ditch pickle's, just like these Canadians seem to favor Doos, they refuse to see or admit it though
1:40 "slaps you in the face like a half-baked salmon"
I'm still trying to wrap my head around what that means. 😄🤔Salmon do jump out of rivers and if you do happen to be in a speeding boat then you would have a salmon in your face, but then why would it be baked?
What about reliability look at the huge Polaris recall?
At least they are recalling them doo has had some pretty bad failures wit the new g5 and no recall as of yet. Not bashing your comment ok.
@joddaley6510 .What problems are there with the Gen5? 1200 miles on mine and no problems. Tightened the chain twice and the track once. Please share so I can be aware.
@@joddaley6510 Yep ski doos quality has been very bad on the gen 5. cant tell if its old parts the werent made for the new sled or new parts that arent as good as the gen 4
@@kenchiison4570 Do you watch boondock nation? Broke the rear drive off, broke rear bumper, broke the chain off
@Brobro449 Nope. Don't watch them. Probably just a bunch of clowns, without jobs, getting by from people like you watching them. How many of their break downs were caused by their wrenching?
Skidoo is faster up the hill, plenty of videos online, Skidoo finally stepping up game, IMO Polaris went backwards with Maytrx, shocks suck. They need to get away from Walker Evans on premium models. Polaris tuning or EFI is a problem, the bog is BS on a nonturbo or turbo model for the price they are today. It shouldn't be a issue in today's day
Say it louder so the cat guys can hear out here in the back !
I have a feeling you won’t be at the back for very long! You’ll at least be closer to the front!!!
@@pajamatime5750 fingers crossed
Cats still making sleds
@@lawrencemacdonald9454 yeah they make sleds and I love them , but they are not anywhere near the mountain sled that skidoo or Polaris are putting out . I think they will come out with something soon to catch up but for now it’s not even in the race
Jeez, I am usually not one for negative comment, but boy did Poo crap in your cornflakes? Last year there 7s display was a game changer, so innovative! Must have!!!! Now one year after " oh this just feel so dated" like come on, you cant go from the best thing in the world, to dated since last March!
We can if something else comes out that looks better. We all agree the 7s is still functionally superior, but from a style perspective... it DOES look dated.
Let the comments begin!
I guess Polaris should bolt the panels down as well so they are more snug. 10 fng minutes to get the panels off???Takes me 10 seconds. Thats not a win..
New big sleds are great(expensive)and used sleds can be as reliable as bitcoin.the market needs some new math to make it more accessible to new and old riders
Why no arctic cat in this comparison
Beeeeecause Cat doesn't have a 2-stroke turbo mountain sled 🤷♂
Ski doo wins
Awwww, you wrecked it! Now nobody will watch...
the skidoo gauge is not even in the same league as the polaris gauge sadly
Sorry to say you can Adjust Poo rear Shocks. You just did not Order the Right Ones. Also you forgot night ride with Doo single Headlight on low beam or Highbeam ? . Also have you thought of adjustment on the Turbo on Poo? No. Also you could have got a Black Poo finish. Maybe you guys are still one sided. Maybe you should Ride At RevelStoke and see how they Ride in that Neck on the Woods
What are you even talking about. We compared THESE sleds which are %100 comparable. That's why we did it. Adjustment of the turbo on the skidoo... what? Got the black polaris finish? What?. Maybe were still one sided, yet we picked a skidoo as a winner... WHAT? And we have both ridden in revelstoke... many times. You make no sense.
@Luke Lester you can't be surprised that there are going to be a couple of idiots that have there head so far up there @$$ that that no matter how objective a shoot out is if you didn't pick there brand they will try to come up with some reason to bitch even if it make zero sense
@@vincentpichota5496 so Right and they did not know about Poo adjusting there fuel settings? Also they did not adjust the two rear Shocks settings. Thanks
@@pavmentsurfer13 sorry you are Wrong. Did you see if you on the Right Fuel Settings? Did you say you can’t adjust the Suspension on the Poo? Well you can maybe it was Set on for a Better Rider. Did you talk about the Headlights? No you talk about how they Look. If Riding at night Two Headlights are better than Doo one headlight. Case over
WTF are you talking about?? Revelstoke is not the gold standard of snowmobiling. Way more snow in the states this year with just as technical terrain.
They left out lots if indepth info. Lacking details big time to call this a shootout.
Not a single bow tie.
I'm not one brand over the other but the g5 ski doos are straight up ugly as hell. Yeah fit and finish is gonna be better when you are using screw fasteners to hold panels in instead of quick release fastners. Also the shot system is great when it works. I have quite a few buddies that have the shot system and have had it fail.
Dude realizes that you can get polaris bars in 5/6/7 heights?
Seems like these don’t even know about mountain sleds when talking about bar height
If they’re picking skidoo, it must be way ahead…….
I’ve rode both…. The g5 is night and day over a g4 💪
The Ski-Doo will be broken or on fire by next season, and the Polaris will still be running on essentially no maintainence 10 years from now.
Sorry but you guys are dead wrong on handling. Skidoo is a long ways away from poo in handling.
This test is for deep snow and they dont use an Rmk pro or a Summit X lmao
It's a comparo between two rowdy sleds. Would you have preferred them riding trails to compare the two?? :ugh:
Having owned a 2003 REV Summit briefly, I will NEVER own another Ski-Doo product. That sled was by and large a giant piece of garbage in every respect. It was heavy, it was tippy as hell, it was very fragile with extremely poor-quality aluminum. Total piece of junk. I'm not willing to give them a second chance.
Ski Doo Logs like a Bull Frog.. We've had Daffy Duck and now the bull frog. Can't SKIDOO come up with something cooler looking.
Same with Polaris. The New VR1 isn't that sexy...
Skidoo must have ponied up more sponsorship money this year.
I hate skiddoo and especially the looks of the g5 but I believe their thoughts on these sleds. The freeride was better. Ugly as hell but they liked it better. They win
Ride one for a week and let me know if you still think that.
I am a Doo fan.But can’t go wrong with poo or Doo we are lucky to have a few great manufacturers to choose from pick your poison and remember stay on your side of the trail when riding be safe
Don't be that guy...
Nope I have both and totally agree with what they said and I’m a Polaris guy deep down.
Those skidoo lights are ugly
That is only dislike for me...hoping they either change,add a sexy cover,or offer a cover as optional!! I know they can do it...or aftermarket dressing that smoooooths out that headlight look.
@Tim Torkelson you can order a ninja turtles wrap
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I don't give 2 5hits about the headlight when I'm riding. I do give 2 shits about bending my Polaris tunnel with my spare gas can there. It's happened to 3 poos in our group. The gen5 is an animal this year.
Skidoo is not just a Canadian company, it's a company built by taxpayers backs.
Always a great review. I watch Muskoka freerider and seems the flat screen on the skidoo is always covered in snow, small issue. But sounds better and is quicker. Both are amazing for sure.
Sir Matt does not have the same Shed ! Matt likes the 900r. Did you know Poo has a fuel Setting.?
@@gregoryh4601 I found out about the fuel setting was causing a nasty bog….
@@JulianJohanson thanks I just wish those two doo people would play Fair With Poo. But there on Doo payroll