Are you Scottish or British? .......Decide at Cambuskenneth Abbey
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Are you Scottish or British? Cambuskenneth Abbey is a place of decisions. Scottish history tour guide Bruce Fummey asks you to visit to consider questions about patriotism and cultural heritage.
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As a Scottish history tour guide people ask: Help me plan a Scottish holiday, or help me plan a Scottish vacation if your from the US. So I've tried to give a bit of history, but some places of interest in Scotland as well.
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I am human Bruce, not sure theres much value in sub groups - "we don't need no stinking badges" ❤
Branded by baith sides 😂 a noticed Jordan Peterson labelled that way , He said the truth lied between 😊 yay do a grand job 🏴💪
I'm from Cumberland, and feel entitled to love or hate, rob and steal from anyone either side of the border. Raise a glass to the Reiver!
Not watched the video yet, but I'm mixed race: half Scottish, half English.
Yes, a very knotty question indeed Bruce. Both of my parents were very proud to claim their Scottishness despite their immediately prior Irish heritage which was the 'cause' of their difficulties gaining employment in their 'homeland'. As a consequence they were forced to move south of the border to raise their family where I have often been conflicted about my national identity. It seems to me that we are not free to choose which nationality we belong to, but rather that others are more determined to decide it for us. Am I English because this is where I was born? Many down here would say not, for the same reasons as my parents' ambiguities. Am I Scottish? Again, many up there would disagree. Personally, I dislike the very ideas of labels, badges & borders. I would prefer to consider myself European but again, an enormous bunch of #*&$?@£%# seem to have decided that for me. Now if I could choose I'd be Palestinian.
I'm Scottish. My wife was English but I think she's becoming Scottish. We moved back 2 years ago and now breakfast includes square sausage, haggis, black pudding and potato scones, washed down with Irn Bru of course, all at her instigation.
You're obviously doing something right, keep up the good work..
Irn Bru for breakfast? thats going a bit far isn't it?
@@helenswan705 Well, if Irn Bru is not to your liking... I hear that traditionally you start with a Lowland Scotch Whisky in the morning, work up to the Speyside at lunch, go round the Highlands and Orkneys 'round the afternoon and finish with a solid Islay Scotch in the evening, toasting Arran and Oban in the wee hours, which neatly brings you back to the next morning.
Is that better? I think it is! I envy you Scots! You have a great drink for every hour.
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Is that diet called alcoholism?
Born in Scotland but raised in New Zealand.
So im a tartan kiwi
Nothing to do with NZ you are a jock perhaps you are not proud of that, I can understand that however.
I was born in Scotland my Ancestors were Scottish, so i will die as a Scot.
Like wise I was born and raised in ENGLAND, so I am ENGLISH 🏴🏴🏴🏴
Aussie Scottish....love ya show
I'm Scottish. I was born here, my family are from here, most of my direct ancestors are from here. That said I lived in England half my adut life, my wife and youngest son are English and although we moved back to Scotland I'm really fond of the place. But when it comes down to it, I'm Scottish. This is where I feel at home and this is where I feel connection.
So British then?
Traitor
An American of Scots-Irish ancestry. My fathers family is staunchly Scots.
I'm Scottish ❤🏴
Bruce, this was a timely story for us Canadians! We are having to make a stand against tyranny even now. I have a few relatives from England but most of them are from Scotland. In spite of being born in Canada, in my heart, I definitely identify as being Scottish.🏴
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Scottish. Always have been, always will be.
I’m Scottish and Irish, born and raised in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, Canada. My great great grandfather was Hugh (Eochan) MacDonald who emigrated during the clearances, still working on the details.
Emigrated is a nice way of putting it Wayne.
@@dougieranger Some emigrated voluntarily. Not all were pushed or evicted.
@@alicemilne1444 I am aware.
I’m curious, do you consider yourself more Canadian, Nova Scotian, Cape Bretoner, or Gaelic?
we are frasers, great grandfather moved great grannie and their kids here in 1912
I do indeed find it an easy question to answer; I am neither because I'm Czech. 😂
Now the question of whether I'm Czech or Bohemian (same word in Czech which makes it extra confusing) or Moravian or... Was glad that the latest census included the possibility to give two answers because that was the only way I could give what felt like a truly truthful answer.
So it's an interesting question in a lot of places!
Dobry den! Chutna' mi ceski pivo, tak najlepsi!
I'm Scottish and had a Czech gf who taught me some Czech! I have a great memory of a crazy night out in Koprivnice, drinking with her dad, me trying to teach him Flower of Scotland! He was singing along whilst not knowing the words, it was so bizarre!
@@TheBigBoyBrian Well, Kopřivnice is in Moravia and Moravian songs occasionally bear some similarity to Scottish ones somehow, I guess it worked. 😆
Holy cow, i just haird from another bohemian. I dednt know there were more of us in the world! I suppose i was dumb thinking that! 😅
@@MicahScottPnD I have to ask - how are you Bohemian and how on earth did you miss the continuing existence of the country? 😆
I'm British, not because of my ancestors (which are English mostly) but because I love that whole island from north to south, east to west. The people, the landscape, the heritage all of it fills me with a sense of belonging regardless of what part I'm in.
That said I understand why people want to describe themselves as Scottish, Welsh, Cornish , English etc.
That's nice. Very comforting. All I know is that, when I travel to England or Wales, when they hear my Scottish accent, I am regarded as an alien. I am not seen as a fellow Brit. They see me as an "other". A Jock. A disagreeable, drunken, haggis-munching, subsidy junkie.
@@jackdubz4247 probably because you're a wanker. Not because you're Scottish.
Evidence? The Glasgow accent harshness and uniqueness was due to Strathclydes language being Cumbric, or basically Welsh. Which in turn, was the same language as Cornish.
If you're going to tell me, a Glaswegian is Alien to a Cornish, Welsh, lancastrian, or a Cumbria man? Then youre having a laugh lol.
Briton doesn't mean what communists try to make it mean. Britons were the native, Celtic tribes of these Islands. That includes every corner of these Islands through blood lines. Welsh, picts, Irish.
@@jackdubz4247 what a shame, I reckon the Scottish accent is the merriest of them all and there is nothing wrong with being a haggis muncher, delicious stuff! As for being regarded as a drunk or junkie on the basis of your accent alone, all I can say is I've seen enough of this world to know that miserable people can be found anywhere. I hope you bump into kinder souls in the future.
@@jackdubz4247 do you know this for sure? That sounds a little like projection of your own self consciousness
@@ollietizzard5180 As a child in Harrod's waiting to buy some trinket with my big sister, the pin stripe suited bowler hat wearing man in front of us caught our accents, and spun round quickly, announcing, "England is for the English!" I was seven and burst into tears. My sister was shaking, and it was one of our first tastes of being "othered ". I have grandchildren now, but I still can hear his hatred and see his face, even today. So, yes, we have experienced it, even on You Tube, Facebook, or on TV. You should read Boris Johnson's poem, written by someone else, which he published when Editor of the paper. "The Scotch - what a verminous race!" He called it a joke, but I fail to get the humour.
Enjoyed that Bruce 👍.
I walk freely from lands end to John o Groats for the price my/our ancestors paid for our unity & peace. 🇬🇧
A few of the things that really pisses me off is the Dad’s army opening titles and theme song, the titles show the union flag fighting back the nazi flag, however the song only mentions “old England” no wonder foreigners think the uk and union flag are the same as just England, like many English themselves. Same as England teams playing under the union flag and singing the dirge that is the GB and NI anthem
Who do you think you are kidding Mr Sunak, if you think old Scotland's done
Sadly, it actually was a song during WW2, as was "There'll Always Be an England." My Dad, a Normandy veteran in 15th Scottish Division said that they always joined in the second line with, "As long as the Scots are there to fight!"
I saw a short section on this years ago in a documentary. I can’t for the life of me remember where. But from looking at 20th century footage and 19th century photographs, as well as newspaper and journal entries, it seems that England and Britain were genuinely conflated. No Saltires nor Red Dragons flew. The British abroad and at home were simply termed English. Irish rebellions were against the English, not British, the list goes on. Maybe the zenith of the Union has passed?
From across the Irish Sea, the view we get of our Celtic cousins is familiar to us from 100 years ago. There seems to be a growing discussion about identity and an acknowledgement that, for all the ‘Home Nations’ twaddle, England held, and still holds in the UK’s case, the whip hand. Nobody asked the Irish if we wanted to be part of England’s dysfunctional little family and whenever we asked to be let out we were told to get back in our box. This led to so much bloodshed and horror down through the centuries. I just hope that whatever renegotiation Scotland undertakes with Westminster, it can be resolved without the awfulness we went through over here. I’m a proud Irishman and a Republican, in the French mode, but feel that if Westminster had just bloody listened, then a whole lot of people needn’t have died. Anyway, all the best to Scotland and the Scottish people. You’ll always have friends across here in Ireland. You know what? Let’s resurrect Dal Riada!
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Thank you my friend, tapadh leibh a charaid. I’ve been to Ireland on holiday. Great people. What you said is absolutely correct. The Scots are now proud to be Scottish, whereas previous generations were made to feel subservient, and to scorn at our own language 😢 🏴🇮🇪🇺🇦
@@McConnachy The Celtic nations are constantly sidelined. Thank you, my Celtic brother!
Without that bloodshed ,Ireland would still be under englands heel, Iam Scottish Glasgow born n bred with Irish heritage, Since my early teens I've been a supporter of Irish Republicanism, I was 12 when the second Hunger strike started those men will be my Hero's to the day I die , the brits don't give anything away ,until they've used it all up ,The Nationalist ex FM Nicola Sturgeon has been arrested today over a large donation going, missing , Why aren't the Conservative and unionist leaders no been arrested over the covid debacle, that wasted tax payers money being used for ,jobs for the boys act ,
@@bernardinglis4232 well said sir. I’m also Scottish, but of highland / Presbyterian and Gaelic speaking descent and agree with everything you said. Sunaks wife got £6.5 million for a stupid national alarm text, but the SNP own a camper can 🙄 No mentions of Jimmy Seville though.
The witch hunt on Indy supporters continues, using their media as a weapon. But hardly anyone in Scotland believes their pish.
Bruce, You weave a wonderful tale! 🏴🏴🇪🇺🇪🇺
I'm a Yorkshireman who is in my heart and DNA Scottish,I didn't draw the lines🤷
Thought provoking as always, but one of the easiest questions ever posed, I’m a Scot. I was born here ( just a few miles from Gowkthrapple ) , have always lived here, have travelled the word, thoroughly enjoyed those different places and cultures, but always look forward to getting back home.
its a good thing Scotland's in Britain then.
100% and will be on the walk 24th June. 🏴
I understand exactly what you're saying , I'm born and breed Australian my father is a Scotsman who emigrated to Tasmania as a boy with his mother and grandmother, I'm Australian in every way except for one strange personal thing, whenever I hear the pipes played I become Scottish, when I see the place of my father's birth I immediately feel at home, so I think there is something internal that draws you to your genetic home,is there others like me ? I'm sure there are 😊
I'm Scots Pamela, but have lived in Sydney for years. My wee girl was born in Syd and is Australian through and through...except certain words, like boat or book are broad Scots, and she loves the pipes. Really odd ❤️
@@maryannedouglas I definitely think it's a genetic thing. I think it is so sweet that your little one loves the pipes lots of kids don't like them too loud on their ears i quess
I’ve always liked this channel and it’s very informative, the views are not shoved down our throats. I’m Scottish, not British. Apologies to Brit Nats, but English and British nationalism is the same thing.
I'm Norwegian, and you, sir, are a brilliant teacher!
If you live n work in Scotland….. if you choose Scotland as your home…..whether born here or not !……you are & will always be considered a Scottish Son or Daughter !…….we are a multi Cultural multi Ethnic Country that embraces the diversity of Global traditions alongside our own longstanding traditions….. including some of those from south of the border ! 😉………..As we move forward new Cultural identities & traditions are formed……& this is what makes Scotland great !…….& aye…I’m Scottish !…….🤜🏴🤛🏾
My name is Monica Grant Lucero and I consider myself Scottish. Thanks for the history lesson.
I'm Scottish to the bone, as is my husband, children and grandchildren. Saor Alba! Cambuskenneth is epic!
I'm 76yo Canadian, Mother from Glasgow, Father Father from Harris, 71 % Scottish and 25 % Irish, I hold no alliance a the foreign King, And i would like to see Canada as a Republic
I'm doing live shows in Canada in 2024. Shows in Halifax, Annapolis, New Glasgow, Moncton, Montreal, Perth , Ottawa, Toronto, Fergus, Seaforth, Calgary, Vancouver and Victoria. Most of the details are here www.brucefummey.co.uk/shows.aspx
Born in Scotland to an English Mum & Scottish Dad. I've always described myself as Scottish.
I'm Scottish.
Another great, thought provoking, video. That's what I like about your videos, they are informative, but because you always try to look at both sides of history, they always make me think. Often I have as many questions after your videos as I did before, lol
I am Czech but I love Scotland and will actually study at Stirling uni since September. Can't wait to see the beautiful landscape that here in Hertfordshire is absent.
@Purple Burglaralarm the people and landscape will make up for it, besides the fact that the place on England I live in last 2 year doesn't have good weather either 😅
My middle son met his wife when they were at Stirling University. It is a great place-and look out for the squirrels on Campus! All the best.
You're in for a treat its an incredibly beautiful campus.
Thank you for all your great work. My mom was born in Motherwell but I’ve lived in Canada my whole life. My pa passed away during the pandemic. One less Scottish accent id be hearing near me. It made me go on a deep dive into Scottish history as to not lose my Scottish connection and your videos have really helped.
Sad the reason, but glad you're here
I understand!! Sorry to hear about your pa!
I'm doing live shows in Canada in 2024. Shows in Halifax, Annapolis, New Glasgow, Moncton, Montreal, Perth , Ottawa, Toronto, Fergus, Seaforth, Calgary, Vancouver and Victoria. Most of the details are here www.brucefummey.co.uk/shows.aspx
@@ScotlandHistoryTours I will have to buy a ticket!☺️I’m in Ottawa
@xtramail4909 Here's the link my friend www.thegladstone.ca/scotland-history-tours/
Scottish....I need say no more except top gig last week Bruce had a great night 👍
Scottish all the way 🏴 ☮️❤️🕯️🌹🦋
I'm Scottish. I'm from Scotland, which is a country in the island of Britain. So, I suppose that makes me British. But only in a geographical sense. Great to see that you got good weather while visiting my hometown. I spotted my house at least twice in the drone footage.
Standing on the same bit of land does not make you belong to that bit of land! France is in Europe. It remains France.
@@AV-fo5de The French are Europeans. In a geographical sense.
@@jackdubz4247 And British and Scottish people are Europeans, too.
@@Perthshire Just like Danes and Swedes are Scandinavian, but also European.
@@Perthshire I visited England in 1998. Our tour guide was rabidly against being called European.
I was born in glasgow,scottish mum,english father...only found out the father part in early thirties..up to this point i was always scottish on filling out forms,,,after this point,within few years i started putting british on forms.I feel i am both but prouder to be scottish,if that makes sense.p.s. lived in scotland till 31 then lived in england till now,mid 50's.
Well done Bruce great video. For me I'm Scottish and European. And our old friend of France you know what I mean right. Take care
Humza Yousaf: 'Obvious' that independence is not the consistent, settled will of the Scottish people'
@@Perthshire And yet the Independence parties "consistently" have a far bigger percentage of the vote and poll after poll (not the Torygraph or the other third column paper polls!) again show a great support for Independence.
I'm a Fifer born and bred,
proud Scot till I'm dead.🏴👍
Me too, in all parts! Born St Andrews.
Great stuff. Mum was Scottish and dad was from Newcastle. I'm a Scotland loving Londoner. When are you coming to London? Keep it up.
Actually that IS a thought. I'm sure there must be enough folk in London to get a room full of Scottish historical comedy lovers
I was born in England but my mum's been hashing her ancestry for the last 10 years as far back at the 1700's, it shows that on her side, I am Scottish and Swedish. Apparently one my ancestors immigrated from Sweden, and married a Scot lived in Scotland, and their children (or might be the children after) moved to England.
Scottish, born, bred and still reside in North East Angus at the foot of the Grampian Mountains. My family name comes from a small village in Moray.
I am Scottish - and proud of it!
Thanks Bruce, you explain Scottish history with clarity that I find nowhere else and enjoy your wit and humour. My great great great grandparents came out from Dollar to settle here in South Australia. I have always considered myself as Australian of Scottish descent,. I have never been to Scotland but it seems to be such a beautiful place. However there is something deep within me that always feels Scottish. Would be great to visit some day if I get the opportunity.
Once again Bruce you delivered another fascinating story. Also your video editing is magic. Can't wait to see you in Portree. Thanks again from one scotsman to another.
As someone Scottish and a Gowkthrapple native, it was surreal hearing our neck of the woods mentioned in the video. I am and always will be Scottish first and foremost but served in the British armed forces and have even have a small amount of English blood in me on my maternal grandfather's side but my heart is Scottish.
In Minnesota, USA, there is a town called Now Then, and another called Ox Lip. Our state capital, Saint Paul, was originally called Pig's Eye!
My grandmother came over from Scotland at the age of twelve. My grandfather's people came over from England before them. Great-grandfather was "invited" to leave England by his family as he had married a chorus girl. All of these people were crazy and one heck of a lot of fun! Which explains Me! I like to bring my own good time with me wherever I go.
I’m proud to be a Scot!!! Born in Paisley to a Scottish mother (family name Downes) and a Hungarian father but brought up in Los Angeles. I was brought up to be fiercely proud of my Scots-Ulster Irish heritage… been back many times and consider it home… ❤🏴🇮🇪
I consider myself English as I was born and raised in England. I believe that I am part Scottish on my mother's side. My father's family has lived in Dorset for 400+ years. Scotland is incredibly stunning and hopefully one day I'll be able to visit.
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My great grandmothers maiden name was Glasgow's and she Married a Read. For my mom's side. On my dad's Hayes married People's married Clarks and Martins many times over. I am my own cousin four times. I am an American proud that my people come from everywhere and a few that were here already. Thank you Bruce since I found you at least 3 years ago you have taught me so much.
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The Wallace Monument and Cambuskenneth Abbey was the view from my home for 20 odd years.
British. My mums Scottish, my dad was born in Ireland and I'm from Yorkshire (guess I have to admit I'm English too) .... So I'm definitely British but do class myself as Scots too sometimes, that's my second home and crossing that border makes my heart pound💜.
Do you consider yourself Irish if your father was born in Ireland? How does / did your father identify?
"guess I have to admit I'm English too" - do you not want to be English? Do you feel more Yorkshire than English?
@@dannymcintyre3819 my father, I'm not sure how he would identify if I asked him now. It's a relatively complicated story on that side of the family 😂 but he was sent to school in England relatively young and has no trace of an Irish accent.
@@dannymcintyre3819 oh I definitely feel more yorkshire than English. Whether that is due to the way English people are represented in media, or simply due to the north south divide I couldn't tell you. I may be able to speak with a relatively close to "received pronunciation" accent if required 😂
@@melscienerf5977 is he from a protestant or Catholic family background or mixed?
After checking out my family tree I can confirm that perthshire, from Crieff to Dundee (boo) is my home from at the earliest that I can find of 1780. Always just north of the tay.
Until I moved to north Fife. 😂
I class myself as Scottish. I am a supporter of self determination. My. English partner also supports this stance.
American with Scottish ancestry. I live in the USA and fly a Scotland saltire flag off of my home. I also have the rear window on my truck covered by a saltire flag. I will always claim my Scottish ancestry.
I was never so unequivocal about anything than this question of national identity. I feel rooted to this country and committed to it. Any 'Britishness' in me was foisted on me by others - for my part, I'm a Scot.
I’m Scottish with a branch that went south. So my claws stand firmly in Aberdeen with my tail feathers brushing England. Also a few Germanic feathers & some Nordic ones. Awesome video Bruce!🏴❤️
You can only rule the people using divisional tactics,does it work,hell yes.Scotland is a constant reminder of this🏴🥺and yes I’m Scottish despite being also French.
Not sure your logic carries much weight. Where is the division?
@Jack Dubz:
Try visiting the West of Scotland on or near the 12th of July.
@@k1ckyscotland988 lived in Glasgow most of my life mate😂
@Gerry Powell.
Our divisions are nothing compared to Northern Ireland.
Just back from there touring on a motorbike.
First question you get when they hear our accent "What are you?" .
"I'm a biker!" .They left me alone after that.
@@k1ckyscotland988 been a biker for over fifty years,ain’t no reason and depth to your comment oh by the way served in NI.
I will be 81 years old tomorrow, and although I was born in England my loyalties throughout my whole life with my family heritage - I have always classed myself as Scottish, Irish & Welsh, it wasn't my fault that I was born south of the border, my Scots and Irish comes from the Murray's & the Grahams and from a family of 10 - only my late mother (who was a Murray) and myself saw ourselves as Scottish, I have the full Murray Highland dress that I will wear with pride tomorrow Slainte mhath.
Iam Scottish and proud to be ✌️ From Scotland
Definitely Scottish ❤
American with Scottish (Norman Invader) Heritage. Investigating the family tree with my dad as a child was a rare connection between us. When I finally stood in the small chapel surrounded by memorials to our clan members, it was the connection to my deceased father that made me tear up. Against all sense it felt like home and I will never forget it or beautiful Scotland.
The Normans were Vikings, from Denmark.
I covered that in another video
The originator of the Rose clan was definitely from Normandy. It is a currently recognized clan with a chieftain and all. So, a johnny-come-lately, but you have to assume some inter-marriage over the last 1000 years. They can’t all have married cousins.🙂
So are you saying that you're french 😮 ?
I love Bruce's videos. Always worthwhile. I'm a difficult case, having been born in England to Scottish parents, but having moved to the U.S. as a child. I guess I'm a de facto American. My citizenship is British. Because we left England, I'm not as directly attached to the place. I grew up with Scottish parents. But I'm a British partisan because of the extent to which I and my cousins are English. My parents' generation largely moved away from Scotland and so my first cousins are a mix of English, Scottish and American. When I'm in Britain, Scotland feels more like home. The Scottish accent feels like the true language. But I find it heartbreaking to see Britain broken apart. I love all the regional variety of the island, between the countries and within them. Also, because my parents' hometown is Dumbarton, and that's my home in Scotland, I feel a vague loyalty to The Britons of Strathclyde.
Always enjoyable.
Bruce Im Scottish
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Scottish, all day long 🏴
With an Irish name?
@@Perthshire a name does not define yer Scottish
@@Perthshire Apparently it is considered Scots/Irish, and definitely Gaelic in origin.
When we were in Scotland, we just happened upon Cambuskenneth Abbey, when looking on Google for what historical sites were nearby after visiting the Wallace monument. Very glad we made it there.
Another place on my bucket list Bruce . James TF Glasgow Born in Edinburgh 1952 and I'm Scottish
I think in the modern context that whether you are Scottish or British or both is about how you feel rather than where you were born or live. I feel Scottish, have felt that way all my life(I'm 62 now) I've never felt British, but that's me. You can never tell someone how to feel, so any Scot who feels British, that's how you feel and I respect that.
I have Brithonic origins - 🏴 with a % of Carib (Taino).on Mama’s side -Scottish-Manx-Irish (O’Brien) who took passage to Barbados in 1650 after fighting for 👑vs cRomwell (both were bad b-stards)
He became Rector of St.Michaels parish ch. -Bridgetown - now a Cathedral .
Hi Bruce 💙
Tfsharing~ love learning history with you.
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Love your thoughts ❤️
Unequivocally Scottish 🏴 🎉
After a childhood believing that i was Scottish Irish, I've spent an adulthood living in England and now am happy to be British Irish.
Born in England, Scottish Father, Welsh Mother - Irish childhood; I am a product of unions present and past; military families do not play the parlour game of pretending their neighbour foreign.
I go wherever I shall go on all these islands with warmth and grace in full knowledge of the pain our peoples levied on each other but no less too the shared invention and endeavour and love since levied - but I will only ever mock those who think me a foreign man in my own land on account of their confusing my British sociolect for a English dialect.
I already of lose or forget 1 of my 2 passports and have multiple NHS/HSE numbers; 2 car insurances and 2 phone contracts on these islands etc.
Spare me, then, the utter farce of having 4 or 5 to deal with.
Oh gosh Bruce, I had to pause and look up the meaning of many terms and words that were unknown to me ie: Gowkthrapple! and Cambuskenneth Abbey. I'm happy to meet you Mr. Bruce Fumey, a Scottish man. I'll be watching this video many times just to absorb all the info you present. Thank you
I am both. Scottish, because that is what I am in ethnic terms, by birth and blood, going back centuries. I am British because of the Union, and because of the geography of that Union. Britain, as a political entity, is a construct designed originally by that wisest of all the fools in Christendom James VI. Britain is not England, and Scotland is not merely one tenth of the Union by size of population. The history of Scotland, Wales and Ireland are very different, and also defined more than just by our respective positions towards England. What is patriotism? What was it then? Even by the standards of the age, Longshanks was cheating at cards - he himself paid homage to the King of France for his lands there, but didn't think that he owed him political loyalty. His going to war against France was not regarded by himself as an act of treason against his feudal liege lord. So what price Moray, Wallace, Bruce, Fraser's "treason"?
Another great, thought provoking piece from Mr Fumy.
All nations are constructs. They get legitimacy or not by the number of people who believe it that nationhood and have the means to make it happen.
Technically a mongrel. But it's a river of Scottishness that runs through my Heart , mind, and soul.😊
Excellent venue!✌️💕🤘
I am American by an accident of birth. I am also American by a loyalty to an Idea and Ideal embodied on a piece of paper. Allegiance ultimately is a choice made, for better or worse. Not always so simple to decide, but reduced to a decision none the less. Thanks for always stimulating the conversation.
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🏴 Thank you for another awesome video, Bruce!
My pleasure!
Your videos are always thought-provoking!
As a Canadian - born & bred - Scottish ancestry on my Father's side & Irish on my Mother's, I've often recognized that I know too little about my ancestry, despite stories told to me by my paternal Great-Grandfather & Great-Aunts, since I was old enough to absorb them.
Obviously, I "feel" Canadian, however, I wonder, if I were to travel to the lands of my ancestors, would I feel a connection to the places & peoples my families left behind?
Strangely, when Scots last voted on the issue of independence, I found that I had a very strong feeling of support for the "Yeas", despite having had several cherished friendships with English Citizens over the years. Again, I thank you for the education!
I am Québécois.
I have never been or even felt represented by Ottawa and the Canadians there or elsewhere. The context might be different, but the questions are the same. The right to choose, the right to be normal, the right to exist... It's what we all want, isn't it?
Hi- as a francophone who lived outside of Quebec, I was always grateful for the people of Quebec... our language and culture could have been easily taken over ( and it is by the times, the TV, by other people's jealousy, by our own laziness or lack of priorities of teaching our own children French??) and as I read my French literature or did my French studies, I knew it was thanks to the greater population of French peoples in Quebec! Alors Merci beaucoup!!
Now back to the topic, I agree with you! My parents told us that the Bretons in France were like the Québécois were to Canada... but possibly together we are stronger than if separated... as long as there is respect!!!
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I am a Scot. With our culture, heritage and history, why would we need anything else? Oh and our scenery isn’t to shabby either
Are you european?
No as stated I’m Scottish, although I do welcome friendship and trade with all, not just Europe
I lived in Gowkthrapple as a young child, it's on the outskirts of Wishaw on the way to Overtown
gowkthrapple= sore throat. the UK is a facade. It is London the city state and its' home counties. Everywhere else serves only to generate income. I am Scottish and it is my dear wish to have Scottish passport before I die. Another good one Bruce.
Scottish, Bruce. I had no say in the bankrupt nobles who voted through the Union (obviously) and the Edinburgh mob went off their heads at the time. Saying that, nothing but love for English, Irish and Welsh people.
Aye, a bit later than 1314 mind 😜
Even the English spy in Edinburgh at the signing of that bit of paper stated "For every one for, there are 99 against!" The spy was called Daniel Foe, but he later changed his name to DeFoe, and made a living writing stories which he had heard of when spying.
Scottish.
I’ve been to Stirling Castle a couple of times but didn’t know about Cambuskenneth Abbey… I’ll have to go see it in November when I come home tae bonnie Scotland 🏴
I’m definitely both-provided ‘British’ means ‘Welsh’ like it did originally.
Scottish 100%
Interesting ( as ever) . I'm not Scottish.. But I'm Yorkshire and British before English. English is 'laandan'.
Still, our modern concepts of nationality are far more recent than these events, its so difficult for us to comprehend.
When asked it’s mainly Londoners and Northern Irish who consider themselves British though…with everyone else identifying far more with the nations. I kinda see Britishness as just Englishness but without any of that working class Del Boy charm really 🤷♂️
Same here first yorkshire, and British as part of my islands past, brythonic people.
@@williamharwood6139maybe the northern Irish, I doubt the London bit. People have more in common outside London
@@johnnypickles5256 Look it up. You could say that Scots have more in common with London than Northern England politically tbh (just look at brexit and attitudes towards immigration) and the idea that English have more in common culturally with Scots, Northern Irish and Welsh than they do with the people in their own capital city is just a lie really. England has been a country and a cultural entity for over 1000 years, the UK isn’t even one now.
@@williamharwood6139 i assure you northerners have very little to do with the southeast, no need to look it up I live it every day. Culturally we're miles apart, am not talking dna or anything like that, just the way people are.
Wonderful video as always! Always teaching us things we'd never know without you. I'm an American with a mix of heritages that include being Scottish and hold all of them in a place of honor.
Well said!
Australian, with a Scottish surname and physiology, and with Scottish ancestors and Irish, English, Welsh, Dutch, and German ones too - all with interesting lives and lived in interesting times. No fame, no glory, no land, no titles - but all important, as I wouldn't be here without them. Scotland is beautiful and dear to me, but it is not my home - Australia is.
You lost me at saying how it’s bizarre that us Canadians have Charles III, had his predecessors, and will have his descendants as our head of state. I believe we are very fortunate to live in a stable constitutional monarchy in comparison to alternatives seen around the world, or even with our neighbours to the south. But that’s just my two pennies as a proud Canadian with Scottish roots. ‘’The thistle, shamrock, rose entwined, the maple leaf forever!’’
You can snip 80% of that shamrock out and probably untangle the other 20% in about 25 years time.
My mother was English, and when my father brought her to Scotland after the war, the locals were pretty horrible to her because she was well spoken and different. When I learned this growing up, i would never have anybody say "we Scots are the salt of the earth". They were just as mean and small-minded as any other people yhe world over.
My wife moved to Huntly from Yorkshire, aged 11, in the 80s. The pupils, and even some teachers bullied her and mocked her English accent for years. It still impacts her today.
Me too transplanted at 11 from Suffolk to Aberdeenshire I was treated like dirt
And that " well spoken" and English sounding are the ones who are more likely get the job in scotland....fact.
Even now our Scottish dialect is unacceptable.
Please remember that our language and our dress was denied us by the English and the union was a conspiracy to have our land.
Our history is still within us.
We were betrayed...by our own, and by promises of title and land by the English government to our traitors.
These people still own a lot of our land. We were cleared off our ancestral land for sheep.!!
It was not so long ago.
The English are not taught scottish history and are oblivious as to why there might be some resentment towards them.
In the UK elections, we always get the party the English vote for, and so it never ends.
Reasons for independence, but the English government will not permit this.?!
Scottish people have the same issues when moving to England as English moving to Scotland.
There is ignorance and prejudice on both sides and fortunately not everyone experiences this prejudice.
I believe this is a human issue, more than a particular location issue, unfortunately
I'm of Scottish and German/Jewish extraction and my mom traced us back to the Duncans from her side and the Ackermann's of Germany. Both pre-civil war.
I'm 100% Scottish from a long line of proud Scots. Have never considered myself British.
You are British though
100% Scottish. Nothing else 🏴
Is that possible, like genetically? Pretty cool if so. Many Picts and Gaels in Alba interbred with Norse, and Anglos for what a millennia now? There is no Scottish nation, or kingdom currently.. I wish for Scotland to have independence from the crown again tho.
@threezerol944t just saying I'm 100% for Scotland. Not genetically bragging or that be a bit nazi like? Or look the other way. The unionists who say they're 100% British? Is that possible either?
@threezerol944t If you're born in Scotland you're Scottish, People have been being born in Scotland for years , Kicking your ther is no Scotland or Scottish in the baws
@@sheronasims6783 Hmm, Nazi like? Nah. It would only be Nazi like if you were a supremacist, and viewed it as some master race. Nazi's were also staunch nationalists, socialists, and fascists. I don't see being proud of ones genealogy as racist, or Nazi like, no. Everyone has ancestors that did bad, things, and also good things. The important thing is to learn, and move forward. "remember, but look ahead". Hmm.. 100% British.. probably not either. Likely closer tho because British in general would mean all the Isles. It's all pretty mixed up. I'm fascinated by genetics, and DNA. If it tells us anything, it's that were all fairly mixed. All modern humans trace back to Botswana in Africa. I'm just fascinated by the journey and history.
I really would like to see Scottish independence tho. I used to be ashamed of my English ancestors, but not any more. We're all homosapiens.
I'm very proud of my ancestors sending Georgie boy back across the pond tho! God bless Alba!
@threezerol944t I know, nazi reference was me being lazy. I know I'm not 100% I've a great great Irish grandmother
Aye I’m Scottish Bruce.👍
Ahhhh your videos just get better and better..
Scottish with Irish ancestry. Never felt British, it's an alien concept to me. If someone asks where I'm from I always say "I'm Scottish" 😊🏴❤️
Yes it's funny how that can be.
How come you don't speak Pictish? Little bit kinky if you proudly talk the language of your enslavers.
Each to their own though.
@@Hrossey Children were banned from speaking the Gaelic (not Pictish) and some local dialects . In Victorian times, some even had their tongues smacked with a ruler if they spoke their own language. Who said we proudly speak English? We had to, but Gaelic is being taught again and local dialects never disappeared. As children, we learned to be "bilingual". Pictish is extinct, and was by the 9th century .
@@AV-fo5de The version of English that modern English speak is a middle-aged corruption of the Anglo-Saxon to the point where it's no longer even mutually intelligible. French elite imposed their Norman language on the English, the Cumbric Brythonic language (that stretched as far north as the Clyde) was equally quashed by the Gaels. I think people like to establish this Scottish/English dichotomy for the sake of division but it's completely ahistorical. The reality is the British Isles is a rich tapestry of cultures and languages but we're all united by an underlying British identity. Let's not forget that the Anglo-Saxon kingoms fought each other for centuries and saw each other with as much suspicion as the Welsh or Picts or Gaels.
Well we have a free travel zone with ireland so free to return home to ireland, and you and your family have a standard of living your grandparents would never have had in the third world ireland.
Albannach, agus alba gu bràth 🏴