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churchill sent the first swatzika festooned miltary vehicles with "soldiers" into eire in 2020 .. balck 9watch/getapo) and tans (territotial army) they were called .. stole the cross of st brendan they did and his catahch not to worry nessie is dying agin i hear .
Dude. Complete bullshit, black history was so irrelevant at this time that you are just making up your own black history as you go along, to fit your narrative.. Pathetic. It is a shame that modern history is plagued by obscure tales of old.
What do you know about the Flemish Knights who went to Wales and Scotland the Pendergasts descended from the Maurice de Prendegass who rode with William the Conquer in 1066 to England? and later went as knights to with Stongbow to Ireland.
The book 1302 uprising in Flanders, tells the tale of Scottish and Flemish people. In Flanders there is a surviving logbook of a 13th century harbour master, with William Wallace his signature in. Eduard The first, had declared war on Flanders and putted blockade on our shores to hinder the cloth trade. We needed English wool for the cloth industry. Wallace stepped in and offered Scottish wool. So Scots became blockade runners. The count send 6000 men and arms to Scotland to help the Scottish army, including warfare experts. 1302 outside Kortrijk the Gilded spurs battle was waged. Clan Drummond came over to support Flanders. But a year later Flanders fell. The Flemish people in Scotland stayed and helped Robert the Bruce. So it happened that I got distant family in Scotland 😅 and why we still love Scotland and support a independent Scotland. 😊
As a Flemish, why does my heart glow , learning of this wonderous past ? We’ve been in Scotland and absolutely loved it. Not only the stunning nature , but also the soul of the Scottish! So much different than the English .. we really could feel the difference with the English and feeling connected to the Scottish … Scot’s are more straightforward, more genuine , more modest. Traits that the Flemish really connect to . We as Flemish often don’t have a big pride or ego towards our “ country” , exept for the food , and maybe arts , we are not really patriotic , more like pessimistic . Personally I believe it originates from being “ the doormat of Europe “ neighboring bigger countries that come to clash , cross and fight smack in the middle where we live . ( remember world war 1& 2 and maybe 3 ? ) over the centuries we were swallowed assimilated and conquered time after time to other cultures , languages .. we learned to adapt , and now we are known all over for : being multilingual , a. It reserved . Have our dinner like it was our last. helping other people out who have no clue how to express themselves in another country. Diplomacy is our middle name , and compromise our main tool in European politics . So if you wonder why the capital of Europe is in Brussels , and not in Paris or Berlin ? Because when a war starts , the first bomb will probably fall on Flemish heads . So maybe , maybe , we have JUST enough time to flee once again to beautiful Scotland !❤
I’m Flemish and have a love for Scotland. This video gave me a sence of pride. I know the chance of having an ansester in Scotland is very small, but it would make me proud. 🥰
Queued to watch later, but I agree - this is intriguing! I work out to be half Flemish myself (both my mother’s parents were evacuees from Belgium during WWI) & my wife’s a Scot! We may have even more in common than we thought…
Maybe this explains why we, the Flemish, are so supportive of Scotland. I went on a holiday there long ago and it’s one of those vacations you never forget. We were greeted everywhere with a kindness you rarely see somewhere else. My dad did tell me about the history of Flanders and Scotland but I never knew the connection was so deep. Thx for this, very good, lesson in Scottish/ Flemish History. Subbed and liked.
People seem to forget that Great Britain is essentially a Germanic country. I'm British but i've been living in the Netherland for the past 20 odd years. Old English is a highly Germanic language closely related to Dutch and German, etc.
As a Fleming I couldn't resist subscribing to such astute and deep-delving historic review. My thanks comes a-floating across the channel. Warm greetings from Antwerp.
When you say you're a Fleming... Do you mean ethnically or officially? Because Flanders has its own specific genetic mix and is only West/east/zealandic and french flanders
@@imwinningthisone7613 hold it? Thats due to centuries of occupation. Classic Flanders where many Scottish people relate to, are the original Flemish people. Im ethnically 98% Flemish and 2% Spanish (due to a marriage of my ancestor with a Spanish lady. I have relatives in clan Murray of Athol. Historically was Flanders in those days, the little America 🇺🇸 of Western Europe. Eventually subdued by its more authoritarian neighbours. But modern Scotland 🏴 is more related to old Flanders then to the modern one.
Thank you so much for doing this video! My maden name is Fleming and I have traced my ancestors all the way back to coming over from Belgium in the 1100. So proud of my Scottish and Fleming heritage! Let the Deed Shaw!
True! I'm Flemish and from the Anglophone accents I "know" (take that with a grain of salt), I find Scottish accents to be the easiest to mimic. It feels more natural to my mouth muscles if you will haha. The biggest factor is probably the R for me, it just feels rrright.
Thank you for an informative video! My paternal ancestor was born in North Carolina in 1785 to Scottish immigrants. His name was Robert Alexander Fleming.
So your ancestors were flemmish, since fleming is a decendant from the flemmish. Greetings from belgium and flanders (we lost many flemmisch territory) but language and culture still survives in 6.7milj flemmisch people
Thank you so much for this video. Usually our history gets a bit muddy since we often get viewed as Dutch or German in books. Also kinda explains why I've never met a Scott I didn't connect with.
being flemish and having been interested in the history of all people from my region i absolutely had no idea about this. there isn't even a mentioning of this in our basic history classes. happy to have found you. i have a whole new section of history to learn about.
As a Flemish person, I did not know there was such a massive emigration towards Scotland. I'd only heard about the exodus towards the Netherlands during the Reformation period. It's easy to forget how BIG of an industry textiles were back in the day and how that craftsmanship can relatively easily be transposed into other regions since these people would only need a loom to do their business unlike people like blacksmiths or carpenters that need whole workshops worth of tools.
Jaja, ook hier woonden er "gelukzoekers". Stemt tot nadenken dat we wel wat vriendelijker mogen zijn tegenover diegenen die van elders naar hier komen om te trachten een menswaardig leven op te bouwen.
When you say you're a Fleming... Do you mean ethnically or officially? Because Flanders has its own specific genetic mix and is only West/east/zealandic and french flanders
I am blowing away by your excellent historical knowledge. I live in Flanders, Brugge (Bruges), Gent(Ghent) and Antwerp are the most beautiful places to connect with the stories of spinners, weavers... The first known earliest industrialization Hotspot in the world. In the early Middle age Flanders was the place to be. They came from Asia, The Far East, all over Europe, to find the finest weavers and spinners and clothes shops. Thank you for this great peace of art.
Thanks for another informative video. The successive waves of Flemish immigrants to Scotland was a surprise. I tended to think that outside of large events, like the Norman invasion, populations of European countries didn’t relocate. And I hadn’t realized the economic opportunity textile manufacture afforded was a factor. I always learn something from your work.
and that they kept commercial bond with home center it's like Vikings really conquering but everything was sent home making Scandinavia really rich bonds of kingship help in business
Huguenots fled Europe in 16th and 17th centuries. People ran away from the Netherlands during the Eighty Years War and they also fled and relocated when the Spanish Inquisition was at its most powerful. There are loads of other times when there were waves of populations running away from European countries. Scottish people scarpered during the Highland clearances. When Britain shipped a load of people over to Australia that was a wave of migration too.
Economic opportunities have always been good reasons to relocate. It's part of why Czechia ended up with the large German populations that caused trouble in the 20th century (back in the Middle Ages when a good deal of the country was not yet settled, Germans were invited over to help build new villages). And why nowadays we have a big Vietnamese minority. (What I always find interesting is how it comes that people from a certain country prefer to move to a certain other country, forming these large minorities. In that, inevitably a certain degree of cultural affinity plays a role, but what that affinity is isn't always clear.)
Those tile roofs can be found up and down the east if England as well, for the exact same reason. The tiles often came as ballast on the tradeships that took the wool back to Flanders.
There is also a big Scottish influence in the Netherlands, since 1500. Mercenaries and sailors married Dutch women. I have 2 Scottish ancesters. One known, one unknown.
I only got your video 26 minutes ago here in south africa this was very informative how one nation had so much influence on another nation I wish you well in your lecture at the theater I off course will not be attending but I will be there in spirit thank you for your wonderful and very interesting video's
At the beginning of the 19th century, Scottish troops were stationed in Zeeland. Unfortunately, half of them died of malaria. Perhaps there were soldiers left behind who built the buildings.
Learned a lot from this video. I learned some of Flemish migrants to Britain, but here in Flanders we generally don't know our ancestors influence on Scotland. Great video!
I’m from St Andrews and obviously I’m watching your video. I’ve mentioned before I studied the wars of independence for SYS history. A factoid that’s stuck with me over 40 years later is that when Edward and his English army sacked Berwick at the beginning of those wars and murdered almost everyone, the Flemish merchants in the town defended their guild house against the English to the last man.
Excellent once again Bruce, Scottish history is fascinating. It reminded of a couple of things from way back in my memory. Flemish merchants defended Berwick on Tweed twice in the Wars of Independence, first when Longshanks invaded and the Flemish merchants were the last to be defeated? Then again in 1333. The other is that there are a number of linguistic similarities between Doric and Flemish. The one example I remember, it's 60 years ago Bruce, is binoculars in Flemish is something like Feerkeeker phonetically and understandable to most Scots. When I was at school we had a teacher from the Inverurie area and who had a strong accent and we thought was a German
One of the areas I'm particularly interested in is the influence of other cultures on Scotland, so this is exactly the kind of video that appeals to me. 🙂
Glad to see this covered! Coming from a Scoto-Flemish family (Innes) with direct relation to the chief branch, I'm always keen to let people know of the Flemish involvement in our history. Also glad you noted that "Flemish" is actually more of a catch-all-term for the folk of the Low Countries, who all spoke the same variant of "Old Dutch" until about the 1400s and were almost indistinguishable from one another. So actually many families trace back to Holland, Brabant, Luxembourg, etc. Even "Berowald the Flemish" was likely from the Holland-based Lords of Egmond. I'm also glad you touched on the Moray-swamp-draining thing. It always makes me laugh that one of the major reasons the Flemish were brought over was to help in the great war against the sea, the Dutch eternal enemy! (the word Innes itself refers to the Islands formed by consistent flooding in the lands we came to own, reminiscent of the Dutch "Terpen".)
Really excellent Bruce. I hadn’t thought so much of Flemish influence in Scotland other than via the trade routes, so this video was a real eye opener.
There's a bit of modern French, too; I've ancestors on my mom's side who were Huguenots in the 1600s that emigrated to Scotland with about 50 other families, all from the same area of Gascony. Many would participate in the plantation of Ulster, but there are still some surnames that have survived- like Gaston.
Thank you for putting this knowledge out there for the masses. I found out about the link between Scottland and Flanders a few decades ago when i was an exchange student. A few Scottish students ( one who is now a well known international TV news host😉) , educated me on the issue. I was brought up a flemish nationalist and got fed history for breakfast, lunch and supper, so i figured i pretty much knew it all ( a young mans hubris 😂) , but i wasnt aware of this connection up untill then. Great video, keep up the good work. ✌️❤️
Excellent video. Just mentioning that the historical Flanders is not the current one (as on the map shown). The regions of Brabant, Antwerp and Limburg only became Flemmish after beiing conquered by France (circa 1795). The OG Flanders was (more or less) West Flanders (Brugges), East Flanders (Ghent), little part of current north France (Dunkirk, St Omaars, Kassel…) and a part of Zeeuws Vlaanderen (Terneuzen, Breskens).
@@ScotlandHistoryToursI think you did, but just as Roel I was doubtful. It is just a hot topic in Belgium. But it is a great video and you did your best making it clear that is is different from today's Flanders.
One great Scottish dish is Stovies. However, it is the Flemish Stoovlees that are still popular in Belgium, South Africa, and as Coddle. In Dublin. probably it was probably introduced by King William 111 troops.
One of my Great-great grandfathers was from the Netherlands and where did he end up? Building some massive bridge linking Fife and Lothian. Never went home.
In Kilmarnock our oldest building is the Laigh Kirk in dutch laag kerk, sounds the same when spoken in scots or dutch. Also we don't say number two and seven here but nummer twe and seevan and everyone here says coo not cow same as the dutch.
I live in St Andrews! Oddly enough I always get asked ( by other Scottish people) ‘where do you come from?’ because they don’t seem to think any of us natives are left
Brilliant video. I’m a scouser who’s just done a DNA test, found lots of Scottish DNA I never knew about. Building the family tree I’ve found loads of Scottish Flemings. Knew absolutely nothing about this part of history, so thank you for this great video.
Bruce you are one of my favorite historians. Anytime you touch upon Murray history I get excited. Especially since I'm in the states and don't have all that history in my backyard. Cheers!
Doesn't surprise me one bit...they practically built Holland as well especially Amsterdam...and they had a huge hand in the birth of England...I also know Zeeland which is close to Flanders has a long history with the Scottish especially with Veere where they had a Scottish church and preached in Scottish they also were granted a pub for their sailors and paid no tax on beer and wine...in exchange for the wool the Dutch traded roof tiles,sheets, agriculture products(of course 😜) and weapons ......later the Scottish wool trade really boomed after Wolphaert van Borssele married Mary Stuart daughter of Jacobus I or James I as you call him I believe... The Scottish are very much loved in the Netherlands...and so are the Flemish now, for that matter... Great video...our southern neighbours are often overlooked in Anglo Saxon history and I have yet to hear a good explanation why this is the case... The Flemish were very inventive and wealthy and at some point a lot of them had to move to the North due to mostly religious tensions...the wealth and knowledge they brought kick-started the real development of Holland as we know it...
Always a fountain of information. Thank you for sharing this history. Anything about Flemish or the area of Moray always catches my attention. You are gifted. I enjoy your videos.
I read somewhere my name might have Flemish roots (a long time ago). Essentially basket maker (probably making lobster kreels or maybe nets) and potentially came up the coast with the fishing. Lot of Leipers in the Aberdeen area.
Thank you for this video! I've been curious about this for a while. I'm Flemish and interested in history, and we never heard anything about Flemings in Scotland at school. (Then again, we never heard about William the Conqueror's Flemish friends either, so on the whole we learnt very little about the Flemish in the British Isles.) I was stunned to learn about the Flemish roots of Scottish noble families - especially the sneaky ones with 'very Scottish' surnames. Now I need to read up on the impact of the Norman Conquest on Scotland, which I've clearly been underestimating.
Your history videos teach us an important lesson that nations are built not just by its native peoples but also those who immigrated from other countries. Seems like Flemington is the Springfield of Scotland. In the US, there's a town named Springfield every 30 miles! I grew up in the Roxborough section of Philadelphia, PA, USA. When you mentioned Roxburgh, the name jumped out at me. One of the name origin stories is that the area was named Roxburgh by a wealthy surveyor who settled in the area. Later the spelling was changed to Roxborough. Another tale is that the area was named by a monk who named the area because foxes "burrowed in the rocks" around his home. I think the former theory holds more water than the latter.
I have been fascinated and educated by your in-depth videos. I am 2nd generation Australian. My family name is Taylor, or the Clan Cameron. Taylor is originally from the French name, Tailleur ( cutter ). My grandfather was originally from Dunfermline.
In February and March I'll be visiting the major towns in Australia and New Zealand with my live show Scotland Made the World. It would be great to see you. Get info at www.brucefummey.co.uk/shows.aspx
Wow. What a wonderful history lesson. Great job. Heading to Scotland in September and you have added excitement and understanding to our journey. Le taing!
Thank you for filling in a gap in the history of my ancestors from Flanders. I wonder if I go back far enough I'll find one intrepid economic migrant to Scotland.
My surname, Rutherford, comes from Scotland. From what I've read, they were horse bound men at arms, some allege knights, of some noble family in Flanders who were the Rudervordes that attempted a coup and failed in the 12th century and were annihilated, which is when they emigrated to the lowlands near Roxburgshire. It's also alleged that the Rudervordes were Normans living in what became Flanders, and that they were Vikings who accompanied Rollo to what became Normandy. My ancestors left Scotland in the late 17th and early 18th centuries. I remember reading that they had a blood feud with a reaver clan, the Kerrs, and I had a guy in my grade growing up in Texas who was a Kerr. Fascinating stuff to me, that in the past thousand years and change, my family went from Scandinavia to France, Flanders then Scotland, and then all over the US, to Canada, Australia, New Zealand and more.
Wow, always had like an instinctive bond with Scotland. But never realised our shared history. Great vid, absolutely interesting. Greatings and thankx from Ghent!
I've been wondering about this link with the Low Countries for a while, since moving to a village not far from Kincardine and noticing the local dykes and polder (reclaimed) fields and the pantiles and other features of the old houses that remind me of Dutch houses from the Zuiderzee Museum. Culross had a trading link from a long way back but I didn't realise the roots went back to 1066. Thank you. I'll look at the other videos too.
Interesting! 'as per' Brucie pal. I never knew one iota, about this Flemish influx, to teach us wild natives to weave silk! Love learning new Scottish history, cheers mate. Ps. I know that the weaving mills employed tonnes of Glaswegians, and they went right up to the Clyde Valley. I would love to learn a bit more than I already know. Which btw, is practically nowt lol. I remember my Da. telling about the Waverley Weavers. When he used to take me to the Peoples Palace, to see the Winter Gardens, down at Glasgow Green. Cheers again mate. 👍 Great stuff.
I descend from Gilbert de Ghent's 3rd son Walter, founder of the Lindsay's.. His brother the 4th son Robert, not only supported King Stephen of England, but became his Chancellor.
Thank you so much for this video! It was very informative and so well told. I’m a Fleming with some Scottish DNA searching for my immigrant ancestor the the US and I’ve been searching for a video just like this. Respect and ❤
Very interesting video! I really enjoyed it. Thank you Sir! My mother is a Montgomery and her mother a Wallace. I traced these two families both back to Ayrshire Scotland . I am a 9th generation American.
Thank you so much for this video! I have family from my motherline with the surname Bremner who lived and worked in Moray during the 18th and 19th centuries. As a descendant, I'm now in Tasmania, Australia, in part due to the St. Andrews Immigration Society and I've always been fascinated by my family's complex history. Your video really highlights the role the Flemish had in creating modern day Scotland and beyond.
In February and March I'll be visiting the major towns in Australia and New Zealand with my live show Scotland Made the World. It would be great to see you. Get info at www.brucefummey.co.uk/shows.aspx
Love this video, as well as other vid's I've watched from this gentleman. I often have difficulties with the thick Scottish accent (and my own deteriorating hearing!), so I really appreciate the assistance of having "captions on". If I were at that location, I might go to see the show (hopefully with sub- or sur-titles!). Thank you!
Ah thanks for the donation. I have to say though, that folks here laugh when foreign folk suggest that I have a thick accent. I don't think you'd last long over this way if you can't understand me
A'reyt Bruce. I was sure you would weave this into one of your stories eventually. Fascinating. When you mentioned the Lincolnshire town of Grantham, later famous for a Lady, I imagined it turning a former miner bright red and choking on his flem, here in Yorkshire. Flemming Toon, on the other hand reminded me of a Mackam watching History With Hilbert's video about the North East England football derby. Hilbert is Frisian and I then wondered if there would be enough Frisian impact on Scotland for a further video like this? Your local theatre is a gem, by the way.
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churchill sent the first swatzika festooned miltary vehicles with "soldiers" into eire in 2020 .. balck 9watch/getapo) and tans (territotial army) they were called .. stole the cross of st brendan they did and his catahch not to worry nessie is dying agin i hear .
where do scots come from is really not that hard if a viking fucks an english woman = scot if a viking woman fucks an english man = irish
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Dude. Complete bullshit, black history was so irrelevant at this time that you are just making up your own black history as you go along, to fit your narrative.. Pathetic. It is a shame that modern history is plagued by obscure tales of old.
What do you know about the Flemish Knights who went to Wales and Scotland the Pendergasts descended from the Maurice de Prendegass who rode with William the Conquer in 1066 to England? and later went as knights to with Stongbow to Ireland.
The book 1302 uprising in Flanders, tells the tale of Scottish and Flemish people. In Flanders there is a surviving logbook of a 13th century harbour master, with William Wallace his signature in. Eduard The first, had declared war on Flanders and putted blockade on our shores to hinder the cloth trade. We needed English wool for the cloth industry. Wallace stepped in and offered Scottish wool. So Scots became blockade runners. The count send 6000 men and arms to Scotland to help the Scottish army, including warfare experts. 1302 outside Kortrijk the Gilded spurs battle was waged. Clan Drummond came over to support Flanders. But a year later Flanders fell. The Flemish people in Scotland stayed and helped Robert the Bruce. So it happened that I got distant family in Scotland 😅 and why we still love Scotland and support a independent Scotland. 😊
That's definitely something I need to follow up on
@@ScotlandHistoryTours I have the Dutch copy of the book, with my other books in my storage locker.
Is there an English version? Who is the author?
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Book by Jan Frans Verbruggen and Rolf Falter. 1302 Opstand in Vlaanderen. I can’t find an English translation.
@@ScotlandHistoryTours and the origin stories of Dumfries, maybe...?..
As a Flemish, why does my heart glow , learning of this wonderous past ? We’ve been in Scotland and absolutely loved it. Not only the stunning nature , but also the soul of the Scottish! So much different than the English .. we really could feel the difference with the English and feeling connected to the Scottish … Scot’s are more straightforward, more genuine , more modest. Traits that the Flemish really connect to . We as Flemish often don’t have a big pride or ego towards our “ country” , exept for the food , and maybe arts , we are not really patriotic , more like pessimistic . Personally I believe it originates from being “ the doormat of Europe “ neighboring bigger countries that come to clash , cross and fight smack in the middle where we live . ( remember world war 1& 2 and maybe 3 ? ) over the centuries we were swallowed assimilated and conquered time after time to other cultures , languages .. we learned to adapt , and now we are known all over for : being multilingual , a. It reserved . Have our dinner like it was our last. helping other people out who have no clue how to express themselves in another country. Diplomacy is our middle name , and compromise our main tool in European politics . So if you wonder why the capital of Europe is in Brussels , and not in Paris or Berlin ? Because when a war starts , the first bomb will probably fall on Flemish heads . So maybe , maybe , we have JUST enough time to flee once again to beautiful Scotland !❤
I’m Flemish and have a love for Scotland. This video gave me a sence of pride. I know the chance of having an ansester in Scotland is very small, but it would make me proud. 🥰
Just a bunch of invaders
nick sturgeon made the scottish people dutch its obvious
Don't be proud, be thankful.
I am not flemish, but Vlaanderen, educates, give me the opportunities to settle down, raised family etc. So I am sincerely thankful for Vlaanderen
❤😊.
@@hammylauw9574what is the diference between Flemish and Vlaanderen?
me living and being a flemisch guy i'm amazed honestly.
Being Flemish myself, I found this very interesting. 😊
Queued to watch later, but I agree - this is intriguing! I work out to be half Flemish myself (both my mother’s parents were evacuees from Belgium during WWI) & my wife’s a Scot! We may have even more in common than we thought…
@@paulneeds we are practically blood brothers! 😉
The smartest people in Europe in my opinion.
@@stevepenney2073 Who am I to contradict you? ☺️ Heheh
it's like Dutch in Poland
still many people have surname Olender in northern regions close to sea
brought nice technology and know how with themselves
This explains why Belgium shows up on my Ancestry dna list along with Scotland. Excellent video Bruce!🏴❤️
Your kin ran off and got it on with a Scottish Las... hey better bring a bottle of your brew when you come to taste our strong blond beers
@@superwout Sounds about right😉🍻
Maybe this explains why we, the Flemish, are so supportive of Scotland. I went on a holiday there long ago and it’s one of those vacations you never forget. We were greeted everywhere with a kindness you rarely see somewhere else. My dad did tell me about the history of Flanders and Scotland but I never knew the connection was so deep. Thx for this, very good, lesson in Scottish/ Flemish History. Subbed and liked.
People seem to forget that Great Britain is essentially a Germanic country.
I'm British but i've been living in the Netherland for the past 20 odd years.
Old English is a highly Germanic language closely related to Dutch and German, etc.
@@RobotronSage In the end we all have influences from each other in Western Europe. You just never hear the details (unless you search for those).
As a Fleming I couldn't resist subscribing to such astute and deep-delving historic review. My thanks comes a-floating across the channel. Warm greetings from Antwerp.
Welcome on board
Groeten uit Puurs-Sint-Amands, in Antwerpen hebben ze een leuk Schots caffè. Aldus wat ik heb gehoord.
When you say you're a Fleming... Do you mean ethnically or officially? Because Flanders has its own specific genetic mix and is only West/east/zealandic and french flanders
@@imwinningthisone7613 hold it? Thats due to centuries of occupation. Classic Flanders where many Scottish people relate to, are the original Flemish people. Im ethnically 98% Flemish and 2% Spanish (due to a marriage of my ancestor with a Spanish lady. I have relatives in clan Murray of Athol. Historically was Flanders in those days, the little America 🇺🇸 of Western Europe. Eventually subdued by its more authoritarian neighbours. But modern Scotland 🏴 is more related to old Flanders then to the modern one.
@@philipdemaeyer1665 I'm not even sure what you're saying or whether you even understand what i asked.
Thank you so much for doing this video! My maden name is Fleming and I have traced my ancestors all the way back to coming over from Belgium in the 1100. So proud of my Scottish and Fleming heritage! Let the Deed Shaw!
This does good to my heart. Born in Flanders; Scottish dad. Thanks for this! Subbed!
I always thought that the Flemish and Scottish tones sounded quite similar in ways. This explains it!
True! I'm Flemish and from the Anglophone accents I "know" (take that with a grain of salt), I find Scottish accents to be the easiest to mimic. It feels more natural to my mouth muscles if you will haha.
The biggest factor is probably the R for me, it just feels rrright.
Thank you for an informative video! My paternal ancestor was born in North Carolina in 1785 to Scottish immigrants. His name was Robert Alexander Fleming.
So your ancestors were flemmish, since fleming is a decendant from the flemmish. Greetings from belgium and flanders (we lost many flemmisch territory) but language and culture still survives in 6.7milj flemmisch people
Also clan Sutherland should have been founded by a flemish. Foreskin son of Murray.
I’m from Flanders😄. This piece of history I didn’t know about. It’s great to learn about our ancestors.
Thank you so much for this video. Usually our history gets a bit muddy since we often get viewed as Dutch or German in books. Also kinda explains why I've never met a Scott I didn't connect with.
Greetings from Antwerp, Flanders! I had no idea how significant our shared history is. Thanks.
being flemish and having been interested in the history of all people from my region i absolutely had no idea about this. there isn't even a mentioning of this in our basic history classes.
happy to have found you. i have a whole new section of history to learn about.
As a Flemish person, I did not know there was such a massive emigration towards Scotland. I'd only heard about the exodus towards the Netherlands during the Reformation period.
It's easy to forget how BIG of an industry textiles were back in the day and how that craftsmanship can relatively easily be transposed into other regions since these people would only need a loom to do their business unlike people like blacksmiths or carpenters that need whole workshops worth of tools.
Actually, a loom is more complicated than a forge and anvil, the difference is in the supply of the raw materials.
Jaja, ook hier woonden er "gelukzoekers". Stemt tot nadenken dat we wel wat vriendelijker mogen zijn tegenover diegenen die van elders naar hier komen om te trachten een menswaardig leven op te bouwen.
When you say you're a Fleming... Do you mean ethnically or officially? Because Flanders has its own specific genetic mix and is only West/east/zealandic and french flanders
I am blowing away by your excellent historical knowledge. I live in Flanders, Brugge (Bruges), Gent(Ghent) and Antwerp are the most beautiful places to connect with the stories of spinners, weavers... The first known earliest industrialization Hotspot in the world. In the early Middle age Flanders was the place to be. They came from Asia, The Far East, all over Europe, to find the finest weavers and spinners and clothes shops. Thank you for this great peace of art.
I'm Flemish... never looked at it this way, really learned some new things. I already liked your vids, now I like them even more 😀
I'm delighted
Careful Bruce or we're all gonna start referring to you as Prof.Fummey!
Thanks for another informative video. The successive waves of Flemish immigrants to Scotland was a surprise. I tended to think that outside of large events, like the Norman invasion, populations of European countries didn’t relocate. And I hadn’t realized the economic opportunity textile manufacture afforded was a factor.
I always learn something from your work.
and that they kept commercial bond with home center
it's like Vikings really
conquering but everything was sent home making Scandinavia really rich
bonds of kingship help in business
Huguenots fled Europe in 16th and 17th centuries. People ran away from the Netherlands during the Eighty Years War and they also fled and relocated when the Spanish Inquisition was at its most powerful. There are loads of other times when there were waves of populations running away from European countries. Scottish people scarpered during the Highland clearances. When Britain shipped a load of people over to Australia that was a wave of migration too.
Economic opportunities have always been good reasons to relocate. It's part of why Czechia ended up with the large German populations that caused trouble in the 20th century (back in the Middle Ages when a good deal of the country was not yet settled, Germans were invited over to help build new villages). And why nowadays we have a big Vietnamese minority.
(What I always find interesting is how it comes that people from a certain country prefer to move to a certain other country, forming these large minorities. In that, inevitably a certain degree of cultural affinity plays a role, but what that affinity is isn't always clear.)
Those tile roofs can be found up and down the east if England as well, for the exact same reason. The tiles often came as ballast on the tradeships that took the wool back to Flanders.
Indeed
I'm originally from South Pembrokeshire in Wales and the Flemish had a an impact there during the Middle Ages.
This is fascinating. As a flemish, I had no idea about this link with Scotland. Thank you, I learned something!
You sir are a natural educator!
There is also a big Scottish influence in the Netherlands, since 1500. Mercenaries and sailors married Dutch women. I have 2 Scottish ancesters. One known, one unknown.
I only got your video 26 minutes ago here in south africa this was very informative how one nation had so much influence on another nation I wish you well in your lecture at the theater I off course will not be attending but I will be there in spirit thank you for your wonderful and very interesting video's
I'm Dutch and we have some towns in Zeeland with Scottish buildings.
At the beginning of the 19th century, Scottish troops were stationed in Zeeland. Unfortunately, half of them died of malaria. Perhaps there were soldiers left behind who built the buildings.
So by moving to Scotland I came back to my roots😊
Learned a lot from this video. I learned some of Flemish migrants to Britain, but here in Flanders we generally don't know our ancestors influence on Scotland. Great video!
I’m from St Andrews and obviously I’m watching your video. I’ve mentioned before I studied the wars of independence for SYS history. A factoid that’s stuck with me over 40 years later is that when Edward and his English army sacked Berwick at the beginning of those wars and murdered almost everyone, the Flemish merchants in the town defended their guild house against the English to the last man.
Thank you so much for the history lesson of my family.
Excellent once again Bruce, Scottish history is fascinating.
It reminded of a couple of things from way back in my memory.
Flemish merchants defended Berwick on Tweed twice in the Wars of Independence, first when Longshanks invaded and the Flemish merchants were the last to be defeated? Then again in 1333.
The other is that there are a number of linguistic similarities between Doric and Flemish. The one example I remember, it's 60 years ago Bruce, is binoculars in Flemish is something like Feerkeeker phonetically and understandable to most Scots. When I was at school we had a teacher from the Inverurie area and who had a strong accent and we thought was a German
"Verrekijker", meaning far-looker.
One of the areas I'm particularly interested in is the influence of other cultures on Scotland, so this is exactly the kind of video that appeals to me. 🙂
Being flemish myself, this is absolutely new to me. It does explain why Scots are so darn handsome.
Glad to see this covered! Coming from a Scoto-Flemish family (Innes) with direct relation to the chief branch, I'm always keen to let people know of the Flemish involvement in our history.
Also glad you noted that "Flemish" is actually more of a catch-all-term for the folk of the Low Countries, who all spoke the same variant of "Old Dutch" until about the 1400s and were almost indistinguishable from one another. So actually many families trace back to Holland, Brabant, Luxembourg, etc. Even "Berowald the Flemish" was likely from the Holland-based Lords of Egmond.
I'm also glad you touched on the Moray-swamp-draining thing. It always makes me laugh that one of the major reasons the Flemish were brought over was to help in the great war against the sea, the Dutch eternal enemy! (the word Innes itself refers to the Islands formed by consistent flooding in the lands we came to own, reminiscent of the Dutch "Terpen".)
Very interesting, and even surprising, to learn this, to me, Flemish born (and still living there). Great!
Really excellent Bruce. I hadn’t thought so much of Flemish influence in Scotland other than via the trade routes, so this video was a real eye opener.
Great info once again, love your stories.
Having lived in Elgin, Texas, United States my ears always go up when I hear you say Elgin.
There's a bit of modern French, too; I've ancestors on my mom's side who were Huguenots in the 1600s that emigrated to Scotland with about 50 other families, all from the same area of Gascony. Many would participate in the plantation of Ulster, but there are still some surnames that have survived- like Gaston.
Thank you for putting this knowledge out there for the masses. I found out about the link between Scottland and Flanders a few decades ago when i was an exchange student. A few Scottish students ( one who is now a well known international TV news host😉) , educated me on the issue. I was brought up a flemish nationalist and got fed history for breakfast, lunch and supper, so i figured i pretty much knew it all ( a young mans hubris 😂) , but i wasnt aware of this connection up untill then. Great video, keep up the good work. ✌️❤️
Another excellent video. I think the Flemish are often overlooked, but as this video points out, they made significant contributions to Scotland. 👍
@royagilmore No we just often get confused by others for being Germans, Dutchmen or even Frenchmen...
Excellent video.
Just mentioning that the historical Flanders is not the current one (as on the map shown). The regions of Brabant, Antwerp and Limburg only became Flemmish after beiing conquered by France (circa 1795).
The OG Flanders was (more or less) West Flanders (Brugges), East Flanders (Ghent), little part of current north France (Dunkirk, St Omaars, Kassel…) and a part of Zeeuws Vlaanderen (Terneuzen, Breskens).
I'm pretty sure I said that
I think he mentioned that, but it was confusing with the map and less in depth. We really shouldn't have made such confusing terms.
@@ScotlandHistoryToursI think you did, but just as Roel I was doubtful. It is just a hot topic in Belgium. But it is a great video and you did your best making it clear that is is different from today's Flanders.
One great Scottish dish is Stovies. However, it is the Flemish Stoovlees that are still popular in Belgium, South Africa, and as Coddle. In Dublin. probably it was probably introduced by King William 111 troops.
One of my Great-great grandfathers was from the Netherlands and where did he end up? Building some massive bridge linking Fife and Lothian. Never went home.
Wise choice
Very interesting. Thank you. From a Flemish historian. 🙂
In Kilmarnock our oldest building is the Laigh Kirk in dutch laag kerk, sounds the same when spoken in scots or dutch.
Also we don't say number two and seven here but nummer twe and seevan and everyone here says coo not cow same as the dutch.
I Thought that this was a most interesting summary of a part of your history. Well Done and Thank You.
Glad you enjoyed it
I live in St Andrews! Oddly enough I always get asked ( by other Scottish people) ‘where do you come from?’ because they don’t seem to think any of us natives are left
Aye
Brilliant video. I’m a scouser who’s just done a DNA test, found lots of Scottish DNA I never knew about. Building the family tree I’ve found loads of Scottish Flemings. Knew absolutely nothing about this part of history, so thank you for this great video.
That's awesome!
I’m American, but my grandmother’s paternal line comes from Flemish merchants who came to Scotland in the middle ages
Flanders is so small and yet left such a big footprint on history. God bless you, very distant relative of mine.
Another insite to this land we love. One day i hope we can write a new chapter of this land. That brings us a second golden age.
Another fascinating look back in to history. Thanks, Bruce.
You're welcome
Very interesting Bruce. Tanks for yet another bit of Scottish history enlightenment.
Glad you enjoyed it
I did always wonder why the moors west of Stirling were called "Flanders Moss"... now I know... thanks!
There ye go
Very interesting (as usual). My paternal Grannie was Fleming from Glasgow.
Bruce you are one of my favorite historians. Anytime you touch upon Murray history I get excited. Especially since I'm in the states and don't have all that history in my backyard. Cheers!
Doesn't surprise me one bit...they practically built Holland as well especially Amsterdam...and they had a huge hand in the birth of England...I also know Zeeland which is close to Flanders has a long history with the Scottish especially with Veere where they had a Scottish church and preached in Scottish they also were granted a pub for their sailors and paid no tax on beer and wine...in exchange for the wool the Dutch traded roof tiles,sheets,
agriculture products(of course 😜) and weapons ......later the Scottish wool trade really boomed after Wolphaert van Borssele married Mary Stuart daughter of Jacobus I or James I as you call him I believe...
The Scottish are very much loved in the Netherlands...and so are the Flemish now, for that matter...
Great video...our southern neighbours are often overlooked in Anglo Saxon history and I have yet to hear a good explanation why this is the case...
The Flemish were very inventive and wealthy and at some point a lot of them had to move to the North due to mostly religious tensions...the wealth and knowledge they brought kick-started the real development of Holland as we know it...
Always a fountain of information. Thank you for sharing this history. Anything about Flemish or the area of Moray always catches my attention.
You are gifted. I enjoy your videos.
I read somewhere my name might have Flemish roots (a long time ago). Essentially basket maker (probably making lobster kreels or maybe nets) and potentially came up the coast with the fishing.
Lot of Leipers in the Aberdeen area.
Great video. Thank you, Bruce! I hope the tickets to your shows sell oot!
Selling well at the moment
Thank you for this video! I've been curious about this for a while. I'm Flemish and interested in history, and we never heard anything about Flemings in Scotland at school. (Then again, we never heard about William the Conqueror's Flemish friends either, so on the whole we learnt very little about the Flemish in the British Isles.) I was stunned to learn about the Flemish roots of Scottish noble families - especially the sneaky ones with 'very Scottish' surnames. Now I need to read up on the impact of the Norman Conquest on Scotland, which I've clearly been underestimating.
Brilliant
I thought I was the only person who ranked Guid Sir Douglas as the top boy. Great video, as always
You just earned yourself a sub, great video.
Greetings from Northern Flanders 🖐🏼
Welcome aboard!
Your history videos teach us an important lesson that nations are built not just by its native peoples but also those who immigrated from other countries. Seems like Flemington is the Springfield of Scotland. In the US, there's a town named Springfield every 30 miles! I grew up in the Roxborough section of Philadelphia, PA, USA. When you mentioned Roxburgh, the name jumped out at me. One of the name origin stories is that the area was named Roxburgh by a wealthy surveyor who settled in the area. Later the spelling was changed to Roxborough. Another tale is that the area was named by a monk who named the area because foxes "burrowed in the rocks" around his home. I think the former theory holds more water than the latter.
And really there mostly isn't true natives, just earlier immigrants.
Look forward to these videos every Saturday morning. See you in Dunfermline with my Dad in November. You're a good man Bruce.
Brilliant
I speak the language of choking and coughing called Dutch, but I like hearing Flemish.
I have been fascinated and educated by your in-depth videos. I am 2nd generation Australian. My family name is Taylor, or the Clan Cameron.
Taylor is originally from the French name, Tailleur ( cutter ).
My grandfather was originally from Dunfermline.
In February and March I'll be visiting the major towns in Australia and New Zealand with my live show Scotland Made the World. It would be great to see you. Get info at www.brucefummey.co.uk/shows.aspx
Wow. What a wonderful history lesson. Great job. Heading to Scotland in September and you have added excitement and understanding to our journey. Le taing!
Having a Flemish dad and Scottish grandparents it's fascinating to learn this, thanks for sharing.
Thank you for filling in a gap in the history of my ancestors from Flanders. I wonder if I go back far enough I'll find one intrepid economic migrant to Scotland.
Another great video. I love how you tell stories of all the different groups that helped make Scotland what it is today. Very interesting. ❤.
Thanks Polly
My surname, Rutherford, comes from Scotland. From what I've read, they were horse bound men at arms, some allege knights, of some noble family in Flanders who were the Rudervordes that attempted a coup and failed in the 12th century and were annihilated, which is when they emigrated to the lowlands near Roxburgshire. It's also alleged that the Rudervordes were Normans living in what became Flanders, and that they were Vikings who accompanied Rollo to what became Normandy. My ancestors left Scotland in the late 17th and early 18th centuries. I remember reading that they had a blood feud with a reaver clan, the Kerrs, and I had a guy in my grade growing up in Texas who was a Kerr. Fascinating stuff to me, that in the past thousand years and change, my family went from Scandinavia to France, Flanders then Scotland, and then all over the US, to Canada, Australia, New Zealand and more.
3:44 Fleming heck! 🧐😳😅
Wow, always had like an instinctive bond with Scotland. But never realised our shared history. Great vid, absolutely interesting. Greatings and thankx from Ghent!
I've been to Ghent. My sister lived there for two years
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Always welcome for another visit!
So enjoyable and informative, thank you. 👏👏👏
Thank YOU
Another great video Bruce, you are a wealth of knowledge. I look forward to Saturdays for your new videos. Thanks Bruce
Watching a channel about Scots and Scottish history and learning more about my own country... guess that explains why I like Scots
I've been wondering about this link with the Low Countries for a while, since moving to a village not far from Kincardine and noticing the local dykes and polder (reclaimed) fields and the pantiles and other features of the old houses that remind me of Dutch houses from the Zuiderzee Museum. Culross had a trading link from a long way back but I didn't realise the roots went back to 1066. Thank you. I'll look at the other videos too.
Interesting! 'as per' Brucie pal.
I never knew one iota, about this Flemish influx, to teach us wild natives to weave silk! Love learning new Scottish history, cheers mate.
Ps. I know that the weaving mills employed tonnes of Glaswegians, and they went right up to the Clyde Valley.
I would love to learn a bit more than I already know. Which btw, is practically nowt lol.
I remember my Da. telling about the Waverley Weavers. When he used to take me to the Peoples Palace, to see the Winter Gardens, down at Glasgow Green.
Cheers again mate. 👍 Great stuff.
Well done Bruce! Bravo!
Great videos, I love it. Well made. Great narration.
You should be getting 1000’s of subscribers!
I knew about the flemish mercenaries that supported King Stephen in England, but this is new and fascinating for me. Btw, yes...I'm from Flanders
I descend from Gilbert de Ghent's 3rd son Walter, founder of the Lindsay's.. His brother the 4th son Robert, not only supported King Stephen of England, but became his Chancellor.
At last, the Freskin de Moravia content I've been waiting for!
😜
This is excellent stuff. "Stickin' out", as we used to say in Belfast. I like what you do.
Proof again that "Everybody is from Somewhere". Always enjoy your videos Bruce.
Thank you so much for this video! It was very informative and so well told. I’m a Fleming with some Scottish DNA searching for my immigrant ancestor the the US and I’ve been searching for a video just like this. Respect and ❤
You're welcome
Picardy place in Edinburgh, was named after Flemish weavers/ lace makers
Very interesting video! I really enjoyed it. Thank you Sir! My mother is a Montgomery and her mother a Wallace. I traced these two families both back to Ayrshire Scotland . I am a 9th generation American.
I grew up in New Jersey and remember ads for the Flemington Fur Company of Flemington, New Jersey...Coincidence ? I think not.
Great story telling as always
Hope your well big man 👊🏼
Thank you so much for this video! I have family from my motherline with the surname Bremner who lived and worked in Moray during the 18th and 19th centuries. As a descendant, I'm now in Tasmania, Australia, in part due to the St. Andrews Immigration Society and I've always been fascinated by my family's complex history. Your video really highlights the role the Flemish had in creating modern day Scotland and beyond.
In February and March I'll be visiting the major towns in Australia and New Zealand with my live show Scotland Made the World. It would be great to see you. Get info at www.brucefummey.co.uk/shows.aspx
Another interesting and engaging video. Well done Bruce.
Thanks Philip
Love this video, as well as other vid's I've watched from this gentleman. I often have difficulties with the thick Scottish accent (and my own deteriorating hearing!), so I really appreciate the assistance of having "captions on". If I were at that location, I might go to see the show (hopefully with sub- or sur-titles!).
Thank you!
Ah thanks for the donation. I have to say though, that folks here laugh when foreign folk suggest that I have a thick accent. I don't think you'd last long over this way if you can't understand me
Another amazing video Brian. I have friends living Bruxelles so have sent this to them!
Guid lad... it's Bruce though😜
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Oops, in France at the moment so too many sherbets ! 🍷🍷
I know the feeling
THanks again--you continually throw light into the cornersof our history.
Ah thanks
You bet! I have read that book a couple of times and its contents convinced me of what you are putting forward! Dank U zeer!!😁
Remember the Scottish houses in Veere (province of Zeeland = Zealand) in the south of the actual Netherlands, nearby Flanders. Wool traders the were.
A'reyt Bruce. I was sure you would weave this into one of your stories eventually. Fascinating.
When you mentioned the Lincolnshire town of Grantham, later famous for a Lady, I imagined it turning a former miner bright red and choking on his flem, here in Yorkshire.
Flemming Toon, on the other hand reminded me of a Mackam watching History With Hilbert's video about the North East England football derby. Hilbert is Frisian and I then wondered if there would be enough Frisian impact on Scotland for a further video like this?
Your local theatre is a gem, by the way.