Then there’s also the filter’s resistance to flow (paper thickness and what max size particles can slip through) which might be independent of pleat number. Look forward to your next test.
Rich, if I may I'd like to suggest that you watch the Project Farm video on the best air filter. Like your machine will do for oil filters, they tested the actual filtration. Their testing show Wix to be the most effective air filter. I appreciate your time and effort and will continue to be loyal viewer.
True! WIX filters are 1mm around bigger, so they fit very well and doing a great job if its about to filter micro dust and the airflow is great like almost a K&N, only K&N doesnt filter micro dust.
@apivaping5476 wix just started making their Air filters with p Lower Quality. I use Purolator Air filters now. But I still use Wix Oil Filters tho they are Still good as of Now...
So air filters are like oil filters. Don’t buy the cheapest one abs change it as required and you’re good. Us car people get to anal. I’ve had to tell myself, “Drive more, worry less” many times.
Yet according to Project Farm's testing the FRAM Xtra Guard lets in up to 7X more particles past the filter sized 5nm and larger than the Puraltor One does and 14X more particles past than the WIX brand filters. The number of pleats just determines how often you have to replace the air filter, less pleats the faster it gets clogged and more often it needs to be replaced. More pleats does not improve the filtering, just the airflow when it gets close to the end of its life / all plugged up.
Mexico doesn't bother me but China sure does. Thing about Mexico as a whole with their people is they are hard workers and do a good job, their Govment though. Don't want to get in politics here but instead looking at the quality.
The video is very interesting, I always used the Motorcraft air filter for my 2006 P71, but it is a very good idea to see other options since here the filter costs around 17. Thanks for the info.
I have a 01 sierra with 160000 miles and I have always use fram for the air filter except when tryed a k&n high flow that destroy my MAFS after that back to fram.
You know I can't remember what brand of filter I've been using on our Superduty gas work trucks in the past as the parts store switched to Baldwin. Anyhow the previous brand is a rebranded Fram, its orange has a Fram P/N. You're right about fit and finish it feels and looks good, put it into the air box it fits tight, even getting the lid on the air box I have to push down to get the snaps latched. I have a new A/F on the back seat of the 6.2 truck I'm going to have a look tomorrow.
I would think the one with the higher DP to airflow would filter the air better. But spruced at the apparent quality of the Fram with all the Fram bashing online. Thank you for doing this!
My cars over the past 20 years have always used Mann specifically made in Germany. Always a tight fit. Stay on top of maintenance and you should be golden. Most of my cars have been handed down to my children and 150k to 200k without issues.
I get Fram air, cabin and oil filters (ultra series). I get them mainly because it's what my store supplies customers with, and I've never questioned their products. Glad to see however a comparison. I just bought what I bought back in the day, and just kept repeatedly getting the same stuff, no second thoughts. Then again if they were truly a bad design and would not work at all, then it wouldn't be on the shelf for long. Down with the neigh sayers!
I use the fram filters. Yep pleats create area for filtration and then there's the porosity of the fabric/paper. Most of the time, these days, I see that everybody's pretty close to each other and over all of quality is pretty high.
Rich I could spend hours with you talking about mechanics I love how you think and live the dream. Most of my early years was before RUclips but had the use of it for the the last years of my career and it made life a lot easier. In my opinion you make us mechanic's look good on RUclips minus the swear words that come with the job lol.
I have trouble closing the air box when using the FRAM filter due to the oversized foam rubber gasket around it. One side of the filter was black due to contamination coming in from the air box not sealing correctly. Might try the Purolator next.
I find that's because people are trying to rush things and they're not real careful about putting the box back together because I see people struggling with the friend filters and I'll walk over and it's a walk in the park for me I just closed the box has no problem but I understand it the Box needs to be closed very carefully and even
I had the K&N on my car and my mechanic seen that so he had me remove the K&N and use a filter that would keep more of the garbage out of my motor. Focusing on keeping the maf sensor cleaner so the engine should run longer with less problems.
Honestly 720p HD at 24-30fps is more than adequate for your purposes. The higher res isn't important until you start digitally zooming in. My phone defaulted to 4k but switched to 720p and it still looked sharp. And yeah I've gotten ac delcos to fit loose and fram was the tightest and is what I use.
The Fram panel air filter looks decent enough. However, Ford Teck Makuloco did a video about how the Fram conical filters like those used on some Mustangs and F-150s have a defect where the round plastic "nose" portion pops off, allowing unfiltered air to pass right by the paper element. He didn't mention Fram by name but when he showed the orange filter and the missing nose piece it was pretty obvious. I like to stick with Motorcraft or Wix myself. But have used other brands like Purolator, Fram, and Champion without issues.
I mean he's free to make any kind of video he wants I don't agree with everything he says I'm sure he doesn't agree with everything that I say I haven't experienced any issues with Fram air filters
Good comparison! The Delco with it's stiffness I think would make the seal even worse. Big, thick, and presumably spongy Fram would seal the best IMHO. Now to determine the media filtering efficiency......
I have long thought that with air filters, the most important aspect is fit and that the biggest variable impacting that is the care of the guy fitting it.
Like, for checking airbox fitment. Probably the most important aspect. I've seen filter gaskets warping and bypassing dirty air many times. Worst offender I see is Jiffy Lube air filters. Motorcraft is the best imo. You have to really push down on those airbox clips!
Fram is a good filler, relatively cheap and provides equally good air flow, at least compare to the OG Toyota air filler. I mean it’s the most popular brand most people buy so, you shouldn’t go wrong with it.
I just put the factory air box and intake tube back on my 01 Grand Marquis. I tried using a Microgard filter but it would collapse at the center of the filter in the air box allowing unfiltered air to pads through. The wix was fine, it had taller pleats which might have led to greater structural rigidity. Ltft's went from 15 to 5, iat's at idle went from 140ish to a little above ambient.
@@CoinHuntingDrew it's not literally the wix filter, the wix filter has taller pleats. Being made by the same company does not make it the same filter.
@@CoinHuntingDrew Well, it may be made by the Wix company under contract, but they are following specifications setup by O'Reillys auto parts. It is most likely not the same specifications that Wix has for its standard name brand filter.
I started getting into doing all these tests and then I realized there wasn't enough differences between all of them and technically the way I was testing it was a little bit flawed it wasn't perfect so I ended up just using the Fram Ultra synthetic filter and it seems to be really good
@@FordBossMe I have a purolator one on the truck now and it fits pretty good. I'll try the fram next. I won't get a k&n. Even tho they have great flow they don't filter worth a shit.
I owned a KN reusable air filter after removing the throttle body I noticed dirt particular build up from the KN. Never again will I use KN air filters.
I think it has to do with the oiling . Some I have opened looked like they missed the oiling. It is not pink like it should be. I called them up and they sent me a new one!
Your ever think of comparing car fuel filters? I use Acdelco fuel filters for my Pontiac grand am gt & was wondering how other brands stand up against it.
Best fitting filter on my truck and honestly best fitting filter I’ve ever installed was k&n. Thing is snug If you haven’t tried one yet check them out….it’s like the Fram how you said you had to push the one corner in but with 3 corners on the k&n
Also just a Psa for anyone especially those looking into oiled filter like k&n. Get a can of maf cleaner and spray that sucker. Apparently oily filters gunk it up quicker so just stay on it. Cheers
You should watch Project Farm's testing of the K&N air filter with different brands of paper air filters. You might change your mind about using the K&N. The Wix and Purolator One air filters came out on top.
We've been having a lot of aftermarket filter problems lately with Chrysler and Ford products and which is one of the issues that we've been having so we don't use them anymore we just use Oe
@@FordBossMe You can try Pipercross airfilters, its a foam filter, does filter micro dust like a champ and airflow is some 25% more then all the other filters. Also Pipercross is oil free, just a dry filter.
Disregarding the sloppy injection molding on the ecoguard, it looks like it might have the best average filtration and flow of all of them. From the video it looks like it has a good amount of separation between the pleats, and they're not being super crowded like the Fram is which is going to reduce flow. I think I kinda want to go with the Egoguard next if its like that for my FiST. Edit: AC Delco everything sucks sh*t.
Did you watch the video all the way through? Or did you ask a question before you got to the end of the video because I stated that's what I was going to do
@@FordBossMe Ahh I must have missed that. Apologies. Keep up the excellent work, your channel is my favourite on RUclips now. Love the no nonsense, just the facts style.
I’m a little surprised your fram is made in Mexico. Well Maybe the fram ultras are only made in USA. Just picked up a fram ultra to replace the oem I had that showing 40 or so silicon on my uoa.
You have to take into consideration air flow. The more filtering, the less the flow. So there has to be a happy median. Similar to the filter for your house furnace. Buy "the best" (more $$$) that filters down to small micron levels, but puts strain on your blower motor, or buy "the worst" (less $$$) that lets bigger dust particles pass thru, but your blower's longevity (and efficiency) will improve. Especially if you don't religiously change filters on a set schedule. I don't know why, but I always compare air filters to house furnaces, lol.
Interestingly,thanks… good observations.. & I finally got a **NAPA Gold AIR FILTER, did *not** fit my 2015 JOURNEY 4 CYL AIRBOX**….. ( I old NAPA GOLD USER ,mostly over my life ( since they started ,etc.) .. though many FRAM ( esP AIR), &:K& N AIR ((* though now to,OEM “AIR “Filters / frequent inspection , in severe dust area……
@@FordBossMe Not just you, Rich. They're half the height and even properly oiled, they can foul the MAF. The cotton can deform if you're rough in cleaning it and then you have a big hole. Not a fan.
There's another channel called project farm that has tested alot of filters & wix was the best as you mentioned and K&N was the worst but fram extra guard was a close second to the worst & that's on filtering dirt & debris.
I'm no expert, but I've seen other tests that that suggest that all pleated paper is not created equal, and that some brands just filter better than others simply because of the paper they use. Those KN style snake oil performance style filters always come in way last when it comes to filtration.
I believe they test their air filters for CFM flow . The biggest problem with all factory air intake systems is that they are to restrictive. Every car or truck that i have, my personal vehicle's i drill a 3-4" hole in the side of the air box below the filter level to give each vehicle more air or more CFM flow. All cold air intakes are under the hood anyway were there is hot air, there is no cold air to that.
You got to wait for the rest of the air filters to come in and as I'm ordering these things I'm trying them out I'm not going to get everything in in one shot so if somebody wants me to try something send it because this s***'s expensive LOL
@@FordBossMe lol.. i hear ya... what you do is very much appreciated. could the relay for my a/c go bad? i was told it wouldn't. my compressor doesn't kick on. fuse in the dash is fine. start with cheap... or just 2/70 window down air..
Thanks, comments. Yes, I studied Project Farm’s results too!, I was interesting: i I went back to MOPAR & ACDELCO air Filters OEM FOR my Vehicles……frequent inspections ( hi dust MONTANA )
Attention people: Use caution with cotton filters they don’t catch as much as paper. And the oil has been known to a few folks to coat/damage M.A.F. Sensors. So please take those words into consideration while you do what you want, with what is rightfully yours to do with what you want to with.
Thanks, what else did K & N DO , & your findings?.. ? Interestingly, I ran three vehicles ++250,000:(?) miles on three K & N; with careful cleaning,etc.:: no **known issues( e.g. MAF, ENGINE wear extra,etc),.many of my “ early” cleanings were highly Dirty,*& dust,etc. Anyways, I relicated from WARSAW INDIANA , TO: HELENA Valley MT, @ high Dusty / dirt:: some studies show some dust flows **through *K& N:: back to FACTORY MOPAR, *& GMC OEM on MY Two,vehicles ( my 2007 CANYON was some 120-130,000 on K & N) … no appreciable differences usinG OEM Air Filters.. Anyways, I,am,figuring FACTORY ENGINEERS know what they are doing: **air flow, specifications, media, fitments, etc. ; especially in this MPG RACE for cars.
So no tests....no pressure/airflow/resistance tests or particle capture tests, and you RANK them? LOL. In tests on these that I've seen (airflow and particle capture), Purolator 1 and WIX did a lot better overall (in all tests) than the Fram or AC Delco. The others listed here, weren't in the actual test. Purolator are 2x the price of Fram, but...I mean, it's your engine...so....probably worth it, especially since air filters go 15k-25k miles.
Project Farm is good but I'm kind of doing my own thing here and when people come to my channel and they try to take viewers away from this channel to go somewhere else is kind of like a slap in the face I'm doing my own testing hear my own way of doing it a little bit different than him in a little bit different way coming from a technician that's in the field that does this stuff every day
who cares if it looks pretty? Purolator stops more dust and dirt than any of them without restricting air flow too much and that is why you buy an air filter.
So other than you just saying that you presented no facts no nothing you just said something and you want people to believe it which is actually not true Fram does better at keeping the most dirt out overall and secondly humble yourself And I care if a product looks good or shiesty or whatever it may be so there's your answer and that should be good enough
My neighbor is a fleet manager , his company is forbidden to use any FRAM products, the consensus they are pure garbage, and real world results cont the most. 👆 this guy is basing his judgement on looks 😂 good luck with that.
Yeah we all know about project Farm doing the tests....I wish people would give it a rest for a second and give somebody else a chance instead of always bringing up project Farm... the guy does great work but it seems like everybody is sweating his nuts so bad everything's always about project Farm
I give project Farm all the respect in the world but I don't do things like him and I'm not going to project Farm to steal his ideas and I think it's kind of disrespectful when people come here and try to try to take my viewers and tell them to go over there instead of let me do my thing it's kind of a slap in the face and it's a dick move
Then there’s also the filter’s resistance to flow (paper thickness and what max size particles can slip through) which might be independent of pleat number. Look forward to your next test.
Very nice. I like that you covered each filter's fitment in the air box as that's an important part that not everyone looks at.
Rich, if I may I'd like to suggest that you watch the Project Farm video on the best air filter. Like your machine will do for oil filters, they tested the actual filtration. Their testing show Wix to be the most effective air filter. I appreciate your time and effort and will continue to be loyal viewer.
True!
WIX filters are 1mm around bigger, so they fit very well and doing a great job if its about to filter micro dust and the airflow is great like almost a K&N, only K&N doesnt filter micro dust.
@apivaping5476 wix just started making their Air filters with p
Lower Quality. I use Purolator Air filters now. But I still use Wix Oil Filters tho they are Still good as of Now...
So air filters are like oil filters. Don’t buy the cheapest one abs change it as required and you’re good. Us car people get to anal. I’ve had to tell myself, “Drive more, worry less” many times.
Yet according to Project Farm's testing the FRAM Xtra Guard lets in up to 7X more particles past the filter sized 5nm and larger than the Puraltor One does and 14X more particles past than the WIX brand filters. The number of pleats just determines how often you have to replace the air filter, less pleats the faster it gets clogged and more often it needs to be replaced. More pleats does not improve the filtering, just the airflow when it gets close to the end of its life / all plugged up.
Just bought the Fram on your recommendation. Thank you!
Thanks for the review was anticipating this one.
The testing station is going to be interesting especially seeing how each filter preforms compared to oe definitely ready to see that video
Mexico doesn't bother me but China sure does. Thing about Mexico as a whole with their people is they are hard workers and do a good job, their Govment though. Don't want to get in politics here but instead looking at the quality.
The video is very interesting, I always used the Motorcraft air filter for my 2006 P71, but it is a very good idea to see other options since here the filter costs around 17. Thanks for the info.
I have a 01 sierra with 160000 miles and I have always use fram for the air filter except when tryed a k&n high flow that destroy my MAFS after that back to fram.
You know I can't remember what brand of filter I've been using on our Superduty gas work trucks in the past as the parts store switched to Baldwin. Anyhow the previous brand is a rebranded Fram, its orange has a Fram P/N. You're right about fit and finish it feels and looks good, put it into the air box it fits tight, even getting the lid on the air box I have to push down to get the snaps latched. I have a new A/F on the back seat of the 6.2 truck I'm going to have a look tomorrow.
People buy or get a 3$ filter and don't change it for 5 years then complain when their engine runs weird.
I would think the one with the higher DP to airflow would filter the air better. But spruced at the apparent quality of the Fram with all the Fram bashing online. Thank you for doing this!
My cars over the past 20 years have always used Mann specifically made in Germany. Always a tight fit. Stay on top of maintenance and you should be golden. Most of my cars have been handed down to my children and 150k to 200k without issues.
I get Fram air, cabin and oil filters (ultra series). I get them mainly because it's what my store supplies customers with, and I've never questioned their products. Glad to see however a comparison. I just bought what I bought back in the day, and just kept repeatedly getting the same stuff, no second thoughts. Then again if they were truly a bad design and would not work at all, then it wouldn't be on the shelf for long. Down with the neigh sayers!
I use the fram filters. Yep pleats create area for filtration and then there's the porosity of the fabric/paper. Most of the time, these days, I see that everybody's pretty close to each other and over all of quality is pretty high.
Rich I could spend hours with you talking about mechanics I love how you think and live the dream. Most of my early years was before RUclips but had the use of it for the the last years of my career and it made life a lot easier. In my opinion you make us mechanic's look good on RUclips minus the swear words that come with the job lol.
Thats just me military and all
Keep it up, this is what we want to see
I have trouble closing the air box when using the FRAM filter due to the oversized foam rubber gasket around it. One side of the filter was black due to contamination coming in from the air box not sealing correctly. Might try the Purolator next.
I find that's because people are trying to rush things and they're not real careful about putting the box back together because I see people struggling with the friend filters and I'll walk over and it's a walk in the park for me I just closed the box has no problem but I understand it the Box needs to be closed very carefully and even
Most of the air filters I've used on the cars I've helped maintain have been FRAM. The only reason was the actual fitment was snug on various cars
I had the K&N on my car and my mechanic seen that so he had me remove the K&N and use a filter that would keep more of the garbage out of my motor. Focusing on keeping the maf sensor cleaner so the engine should run longer with less problems.
Honestly 720p HD at 24-30fps is more than adequate for your purposes. The higher res isn't important until you start digitally zooming in. My phone defaulted to 4k but switched to 720p and it still looked sharp.
And yeah I've gotten ac delcos to fit loose and fram was the tightest and is what I use.
The Fram panel air filter looks decent enough. However, Ford Teck Makuloco did a video about how the Fram conical filters like those used on some Mustangs and F-150s have a defect where the round plastic "nose" portion pops off, allowing unfiltered air to pass right by the paper element. He didn't mention Fram by name but when he showed the orange filter and the missing nose piece it was pretty obvious. I like to stick with Motorcraft or Wix myself. But have used other brands like Purolator, Fram, and Champion without issues.
I mean he's free to make any kind of video he wants I don't agree with everything he says I'm sure he doesn't agree with everything that I say I haven't experienced any issues with Fram air filters
I VERY interested in your future tests. I tend to overthink things.
When I'm not using my washable K&N I use Purolator One in my 08 Grand Marquis. But the airbox design does make changing the filter somewhat awkward
Have you ever changed one in a 01 F150 ?? I'd like to slap the engineer that designed it .
Can't wait to check the next air filter video
Great 👍 video
Army AL
Good comparison! The Delco with it's stiffness I think would make the seal even worse. Big, thick, and presumably spongy Fram would seal the best IMHO. Now to determine the media filtering efficiency......
Can’t wait to see the testing station.
I'm liking the fram. Great video brother 👍
I have long thought that with air filters, the most important aspect is fit and that the biggest variable impacting that is the care of the guy fitting it.
I have a 2007 Town Car and Fram is the best fitting filter, by far I have used and I can get it from WalMart. I haven't tried a Motorcraft, yet.
Fram humbles, once again.
Exactly right.
Like, for checking airbox fitment. Probably the most important aspect. I've seen filter gaskets warping and bypassing dirty air many times. Worst offender I see is Jiffy Lube air filters. Motorcraft is the best imo. You have to really push down on those airbox clips!
Nice video. I truly was first this time. I have always liked gram air filters if I'm still on a stock intake.
Fram is a good filler, relatively cheap and provides equally good air flow, at least compare to the OG Toyota air filler. I mean it’s the most popular brand most people buy so, you shouldn’t go wrong with it.
I would buy the Fram. It seems to be the best of them.
I just put the factory air box and intake tube back on my 01 Grand Marquis. I tried using a Microgard filter but it would collapse at the center of the filter in the air box allowing unfiltered air to pads through. The wix was fine, it had taller pleats which might have led to greater structural rigidity. Ltft's went from 15 to 5, iat's at idle went from 140ish to a little above ambient.
funny you say that because microgard is literally a wix filter
@@CoinHuntingDrew it's not literally the wix filter, the wix filter has taller pleats. Being made by the same company does not make it the same filter.
@@CoinHuntingDrew Well, it may be made by the Wix company under contract, but they are following specifications setup by O'Reillys auto parts. It is most likely not the same specifications that Wix has for its standard name brand filter.
Wix cheaped out on there air filters so I use Purolator air filters. But I still use Wix Oil Filters tho
I run a Fram XG in my Ram 3500. I change it every 15000 kms. Cheap and easy.
Can you include the Wix filter to your test?
Very interested in these tests. I appreciate your time. I have also been interested in a volant intake system with the power core filter
I started getting into doing all these tests and then I realized there wasn't enough differences between all of them and technically the way I was testing it was a little bit flawed it wasn't perfect so I ended up just using the Fram Ultra synthetic filter and it seems to be really good
@@FordBossMe I have a purolator one on the truck now and it fits pretty good. I'll try the fram next. I won't get a k&n. Even tho they have great flow they don't filter worth a shit.
It would be cool to see a live test of air flow
Already got everything ordered to set it up
We use a Wix made in Poland.
can you review the newer Fram ultra air filter
I owned a KN reusable air filter after removing the throttle body I noticed dirt particular build up from the KN. Never again will I use KN air filters.
They are shit for filtration
I think it has to do with the oiling . Some I have opened looked like they missed the oiling. It is not pink like it should be. I called them up and they sent me a new one!
@@rymat1427 I cleaned mine and re oiled with there kit still had same problem.
GO FRAM! Good video. Thanks!
Your ever think of comparing car fuel filters? I use Acdelco fuel filters for my Pontiac grand am gt & was wondering how other brands stand up against it.
Yes
Are you doing any tests with used filters or seeing how they perform dirty? Curious
Could be both just starting
What are your thoughts on WIX filters?
Best fitting filter on my truck and honestly best fitting filter I’ve ever installed was k&n. Thing is snug
If you haven’t tried one yet check them out….it’s like the Fram how you said you had to push the one corner in but with 3 corners on the k&n
If you look in the community post on this channel you'll see I bought one and installed it today hours ago
Nice man thanks for the video good info on filters. Subbed
Also just a Psa for anyone especially those looking into oiled filter like k&n. Get a can of maf cleaner and spray that sucker. Apparently oily filters gunk it up quicker so just stay on it. Cheers
See this video and then tell me you prefer K&N...
ruclips.net/video/sJ3L-E-ufYo/видео.html
You should watch Project Farm's testing of the K&N air filter with different brands of paper air filters. You might change your mind about using the K&N.
The Wix and Purolator One air filters came out on top.
I agree with you on the fram
WIX filters are 1mm around bigger, so they fit very well and doing a great job if its about to filter micro dust and the airflow is great.
We've been having a lot of aftermarket filter problems lately with Chrysler and Ford products and which is one of the issues that we've been having so we don't use them anymore we just use Oe
@@FordBossMe
You can try Pipercross airfilters, its a foam filter, does filter micro dust like a champ and airflow is some 25% more then all the other filters.
Also Pipercross is oil free, just a dry filter.
Disregarding the sloppy injection molding on the ecoguard, it looks like it might have the best average filtration and flow of all of them. From the video it looks like it has a good amount of separation between the pleats, and they're not being super crowded like the Fram is which is going to reduce flow. I think I kinda want to go with the Egoguard next if its like that for my FiST. Edit: AC Delco everything sucks sh*t.
We will test that soon, patients is the virtue
I wouldn’t be surprised if you got a sponsorship from Fram for the business you’ve been getting them lol
Could you get a genuine Ford filter and see how well that fits and how many pleats it has?
Did you watch the video all the way through? Or did you ask a question before you got to the end of the video because I stated that's what I was going to do
@@FordBossMe Ahh I must have missed that. Apologies. Keep up the excellent work, your channel is my favourite on RUclips now. Love the no nonsense, just the facts style.
I’m a little surprised your fram is made in Mexico. Well
Maybe the fram ultras are only made in USA. Just picked up a fram ultra to replace the oem I had that showing 40 or so silicon on my uoa.
You have to take into consideration air flow. The more filtering, the less the flow. So there has to be a happy median. Similar to the filter for your house furnace. Buy "the best" (more $$$) that filters down to small micron levels, but puts strain on your blower motor, or buy "the worst" (less $$$) that lets bigger dust particles pass thru, but your blower's longevity (and efficiency) will improve. Especially if you don't religiously change filters on a set schedule. I don't know why, but I always compare air filters to house furnaces, lol.
Look at the community post and always watch the video completely through....i more than realize this im building a testing station
A furnace is different in that it uses a fan motor and the engine is the fan motor and way more powerful than your furnace fan motor.
I always have problems closing the box with the Fram... cuz of that lip
But it's airtight and won't let dust in.
Interestingly,thanks… good observations.. & I finally got a **NAPA Gold AIR FILTER, did *not** fit my 2015 JOURNEY 4 CYL AIRBOX**….. ( I old NAPA GOLD USER ,mostly over my life ( since they started ,etc.) .. though many FRAM ( esP AIR), &:K& N AIR ((* though now to,OEM “AIR “Filters / frequent inspection , in severe dust area……
Fram and Motocraft look the same. Do you think they are ?
Idk yet
I figured you miscounted the Baldwin too! 91 92, it's all good!
I counted 5x but if its 92 still im not a fan
I like the Baldwin oil filter, but their air filter is a step or two below the Fram. Very interesting testing! Thank you...
How do you feel about k&n washable filters
Ehhhh not a fan but thats just me
@@FordBossMe Not just you, Rich. They're half the height and even properly oiled, they can foul the MAF. The cotton can deform if you're rough in cleaning it and then you have a big hole. Not a fan.
But how soft is the the rubber sealing surface feel ?
That's interesting that the Fram air filter is good.. I've been told their oil filters are crap.
No people are silly they use their bias to educate
Man 7m so stocked for all these teat your getting ready to do.
Great video two thumbs up 👍🏻👍🏻, Wix for me.
Yeah I just did a video on a Wix filter and it is the best I just loaded it
There's another channel called project farm that has tested alot of filters & wix was the best as you mentioned and K&N was the worst but fram extra guard was a close second to the worst & that's on filtering dirt & debris.
Flow test next?
Look in community tab...yep building a station
Which filter flows the best ?
@@FordBossMecould you make a flow test video please on these filters
I'm no expert, but I've seen other tests that that suggest that all pleated paper is not created equal, and that some brands just filter better than others simply because of the paper they use.
Those KN style snake oil performance style filters always come in way last when it comes to filtration.
Yes some have synthetic media blend some have full synthetic media
I would say Walmart gets 2 points for the fram (most pleats & best fit)💪💪🤣
hey u orgot the STP premium
Air filter Fram is #1.
well done. I like your fair and balanced assessment.
Fram for the win
I just did a Wix and it actually beat the Fram the fram is now in second
Fram for the 🥇 win
Ac Delco, 69 Pleats, they don't care about your Ford,
Seems the video was too indicative of the quantity of pleats. There was no air flow test conducted. Why was the motor craft filter left out?
You didn't see all the videos
And you obviously didn't read the title attention to detail on your part
Ever hear of KAX filters?
No
What about a K&n ?
Different Category will test eventually
I believe they test their air filters for CFM flow . The biggest problem with all factory air intake systems is that they are to restrictive. Every car or truck that i have, my personal vehicle's i drill a 3-4" hole in the side of the air box below the filter level to give each vehicle more air or more CFM flow. All cold air intakes are under the hood anyway were there is hot air, there is no cold air to that.
got wix.. darn! disappointing.. so far about made in usa though.. i try so hard for that.
You got to wait for the rest of the air filters to come in and as I'm ordering these things I'm trying them out I'm not going to get everything in in one shot so if somebody wants me to try something send it because this s***'s expensive LOL
@@FordBossMe lol.. i hear ya... what you do is very much appreciated. could the relay for my a/c go bad? i was told it wouldn't. my compressor doesn't kick on. fuse in the dash is fine. start with cheap... or just 2/70 window down air..
Project Farm did numerous scientific testing and Fram filtered out the least amount of particles.
Your not telling me anything none of doesn't know
I'm a different person than him and may test things a little different
Thanks, comments. Yes, I studied Project Farm’s results too!, I was interesting: i
I went back to MOPAR & ACDELCO air Filters OEM FOR my Vehicles……frequent inspections ( hi dust MONTANA )
Great video. But once lid is secured it fixs any slight movement. I'm a ACdelco filter man
Ehh that's speculation though
@@FordBossMe prove me wrong Boss
No Chinese anything if I can help it.
There's only one of me and I'm the greatest me in the world.
Attention people: Use caution with cotton filters they don’t catch as much as paper. And the oil has been known to a few folks to coat/damage M.A.F. Sensors. So please take those words into consideration while you do what you want, with what is rightfully yours to do with what you want to with.
I run K&N air filters in both of my vehicles.
Not I
Thanks, what else did K & N DO , & your findings?.. ? Interestingly, I ran three vehicles ++250,000:(?) miles on three K & N; with careful cleaning,etc.:: no **known issues( e.g. MAF, ENGINE wear extra,etc),.many of my “ early” cleanings were highly Dirty,*& dust,etc. Anyways, I relicated from WARSAW INDIANA , TO: HELENA Valley MT, @ high Dusty / dirt:: some studies show some dust flows **through *K& N:: back to FACTORY MOPAR, *& GMC OEM on MY Two,vehicles ( my 2007 CANYON was some 120-130,000 on K & N) … no appreciable differences usinG OEM Air Filters.. Anyways, I,am,figuring FACTORY ENGINEERS know what they are doing: **air flow, specifications, media, fitments, etc. ; especially in this MPG RACE for cars.
So no tests....no pressure/airflow/resistance tests or particle capture tests, and you RANK them? LOL. In tests on these that I've seen (airflow and particle capture), Purolator 1 and WIX did a lot better overall (in all tests) than the Fram or AC Delco. The others listed here, weren't in the actual test. Purolator are 2x the price of Fram, but...I mean, it's your engine...so....probably worth it, especially since air filters go 15k-25k miles.
Project farm did a good video on you tube with air filters if you all want to take a look.. Pretty good info!
Project Farm is good but I'm kind of doing my own thing here and when people come to my channel and they try to take viewers away from this channel to go somewhere else is kind of like a slap in the face I'm doing my own testing hear my own way of doing it a little bit different than him in a little bit different way coming from a technician that's in the field that does this stuff every day
who cares if it looks pretty? Purolator stops more dust and dirt than any of them without restricting air flow too much and that is why you buy an air filter.
So other than you just saying that you presented no facts no nothing you just said something and you want people to believe it which is actually not true Fram does better at keeping the most dirt out overall and secondly humble yourself
And I care if a product looks good or shiesty or whatever it may be so there's your answer and that should be good enough
Never heard of a "Baldwin"? Get a Fram.
My neighbor is a fleet manager , his company is forbidden to use any FRAM products, the consensus they are pure garbage, and real world results cont the most. 👆 this guy is basing his judgement on looks 😂 good luck with that.
Stf Up and grow up - I have a whole channel of gold info here and you comment on 1 video
Gufy azZ
no
Project farm also made good videos about this
Yeah we all know about project Farm doing the tests....I wish people would give it a rest for a second and give somebody else a chance instead of always bringing up project Farm... the guy does great work but it seems like everybody is sweating his nuts so bad everything's always about project Farm
Fram builds garbage everything
That's just a stupid f****** comment
Want to see tests go to project farm RUclips channel that guy tests everything great channel.
I give project Farm all the respect in the world but I don't do things like him and I'm not going to project Farm to steal his ideas and I think it's kind of disrespectful when people come here and try to try to take my viewers and tell them to go over there instead of let me do my thing it's kind of a slap in the face and it's a dick move
I don't understand what you're trying to gain here by saying go over this guy's Channel I mean why are you even here then