Which is weird because anyone who bought a Wii U knows it was a great console. If calling it the "Wii U" really cost it sales and made people think it was a add on to the Wii.. If it wasn't for the Wii U The switch wouldn't be what it is today. They didn't change much Just made the tablet/console a combined portable unit. The games on the Wii U got ported to switch or were used as a basis for optimizing future games. The Wii U started Amiibos. There really isn't much difference from the Wii U and switched
@Vexzel It wasn't a great console. The Gamepad gimmick was poorly thought-out, which was a huge problem when the entire system was built around it, so they couldn't just ditch it or sell it separately. They then had to make games to justify it, and most of those games did not do a good job of justifying it - either because the gamepad integration was extremely superficial, or because it absolutely sucked and the game would have been better off without it. The Wii U had some great games, but it wasn't great as a machine.
The reason why they won't do the plus-shaped D-pad is because you need the face buttons on each controller half. The left JoyCon on its own needs to function as an individual controller in its own right.
Good point! Single joycon use would suffer with a plus dpad and aesthetically it looks worse.. Wish I would've realized this when making the vid, please redact my statements 😂
Or sell a d-pad cover that clips over the buttons. 3rd party companies already sell them for like 10$. Nintendo just needs to add it like joycon straps to their bundle
To be fair even with the plus shaped dpad the pro controller is still basically just 4 separate buttons and all 4 can be pressed at the same time this has no excuse to be like this.
even with this, I still hope some joycons have a d-pad. maybe some left joycons could have d-pad and others have buttons. Or prehaps somehow make it swapable. All very unrealistic (especially the swapablr dpad thing) but it could theoretically work. but they probably won't cause Nintendo
@@jakhow5904 Real question is why are your made up stats bragging about Hz? Hate to tell you this but the current Switch can run botw at 90-120Hz if you have it hooked up to a monitor that can do 90-120Hz.
I think they'll stick with the Switch format, as they usually did with the portables. We had GameBoy and then GameBoy Advance; later we had Nintendo DS and then Nintendo 3DS. So I think we may expect an evolution of the formula in this case. I also think that they still haven't explored the possibilities of having actual hardware in the dock. We could have some "modular" approach, with somekind of more powerful hardware being activated in the dock for the more demanding graphics that people want to see in big screens, and for portable mode we carry along a somewhat modest hardware that gets the job done. I don't know, but I would expect the dock playing a bigger role if they decide to evolve the Switch concept.
The + D-pad being absent in favor of 4 separate buttons is because of the gimmick of using each joycon on its side as its own controller. That way, the arrow buttons can also function as ABXY. Personally I'd prefer just... having a second controller.
the joycons are also designed to act as separate controllers. there is nothing to "correct" with the D-pad because trying to correct it, would make a brand new problem that conflicts with this intended feature of the joycons also being 2 separate controllers.
The reason it's 4 buttons and not a D-Pad is because some games use single joy-con for controller (Super Mario Part REQUIRES using single joy-cons in multi-player) and it gives a layout a bit similar to a SNES controller when put sideway
The reason the arrow keys on Joycon are not conjoined is to facilitate single-Joycon play. With a + Control Pad, you cannot push opposite directions simultaneously. Therefore, it cannot be used as ABXY action buttons.
Everyone out here trying to 'correct you' about the dpad comment, but here's what I'd love to see: Nintendo should just sell a separate left joycon that has a proper dpad on it, so you don't have to modify the shell yourself. The detachable joycons are mainly a gimmick that very few games take proper advantage of. The gimmick is important to help sell the console to kids (parents) and to brand new gamers, but if they gave more serious gamers the option to reduce the impact of that gimmick on their long term play experience I think it would be taken positively (even though its literally selling back a removed feature). Plus, even Nintendo knows that the dpad is better for games that don't need full joycon functionality, because both the pro controller and the switch lite have one.
The Switch 2.0 (or whatever Nintendo ends up making) really should venture into VR support or something. Accessible budget VR is something we've been waiting for forever. I mean, whether they like it or not, Nintendo is competing with Valve and the Steam Deck. ALSO, THEY NEED TO FIX JOYCON DRIFT.
The thing I really want to see on Nintendo's next console (in addition to the expected hardware refresh) is being able to cast to the TV while it's in handheld mode, essentially pulling a reverse Wii U. It can be backwards and forwards compatible. (can be used in the Switch dock and Switch can be used in its dock, just need both for the casting feature to work) It opens up a path to Wii U and DS emulation. And maybe some of those Wii U projects that were shelved due to low sales can be resurrected. (like that fully complete unreleased Ubisoft party game) All they gotta do is not fuck up the name again like with the Wii U. (I firmly believe the biggest problem it had was its name. People just didn't understand it was a whole new console and not just a tablet controller peripheral for the Wii.)
I would say that the switch successor will likely need the following: 1) The window for a small specs bump was 2021 when they were originally planning on releasing a Switch Pro. The insider info points to them not releasing new hardware until 2024 at which point Gen 9 (PS5/XSX) development will be standard among AAA devs such that while they aren't going to need hardware that is Gen 9 powerful they will need to something around PS4 Pro powerful in order to make it easy for devs to port games to the switch successor. They would still likely miss out on some key AAA titles but enough AAA games would still get ported to switch and the vast majority of indie games would easily get ported to switch so they wouldn't be too lacking in third party support. 2) Vastly improved online/app infrastructure. It's 2023 the fact that nintendo's online service is still lacking compared to online that Xbox Live provided back in the 360 era is unacceptable. To make matters even worse, their NSO and E-Shop apps constantly lag and the switch is lacking media apps that even its predecessors had. Part of this has more to do with investing in better online servers but releasing new hardware is the best opportunity to introduce a completely revamped and improved online/app system. 3) Improved Joy Cons. Assuming they are sticking with a similar control setup as the switch, there is still tons of room to vastly improve the Joycons such as making them bigger and/or thicker so they are easier to grip, put tingthe infrared camera on the front to better/driftless pointer controls possible, changing the analog sticks so they are less vulnerable to dust buildup and stick drift, and underside buttons which are standard in controllers these days. Also nintendo can't go back to directly competing with Sony and Microsoft on hardware because that would require selling hardware at a loss which Nintendo can't do when they don't have non-gaming sectors to absorb gaming sector losses like Sony and Microsoft have.
@@mk8-mkwil117 The Gamecube wasn't a failure, the PS2 was just that good. Comparable specs, had backwards compatibility with PS1, and could play DVDs. Not to mention PS2 had a stellar line up of exclusives like the Silent Hill games, Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy, Devil May Cry, God of War, etc. The PS2 was just THE console for the hack & slash genre during the early-mid 2000s among other genres like JRPGs and horror, whereas Xbox was able to coast by with Halo 2 online multiplayer and got to enjoy ports for games like Half Life 2 and Doom 3. Gamecube _had_ third party exclusives, though, no one was really keen on games like RE4 being on "the baby console." Its a stigma that's existed towards Nintendo consoles as far back as the Genesis Does What Nintendon't campaign, and its never really gone away. Even nowadays people still look at Nintendo as the family friendly option, even though Bayonetta is literally a first party Nintendo IP. Nintendo could acquire fucking Doom or NieR and the Switch would still be the kids console because their mascot is the funny wahoo man.
I'm placing my bets here that it'd be a super switch The new gimmick being that vr support is now a big thing and not just cardboard stuff Handheld OLED at 60fps 900p, 1080p for non super intensive games The dock clocks it up to 120fps, but it only reaches 4k through scaling That's about it when it comes to specs, gotta be more realistic so the price can be from 300-400, probably 400
Great video. Good thoughts. However, why do you travel with your dock? I just use a 3rd part USB-C port replicator, and a small 60w charger block. Works great, and it all fits in my pocket. (I throw it in my backpack, but it fits in my pocket :))
Good video I like the ideas. About the d-pad. While I agree that a d-pad is better, if they did that, the left joy con would not be able to be used individually. As those are the four face buttons.
I don't think nintendo is really worried about cutting that feature, i mean prettu much nobody cares about using a single joycon and even nintendo used it in like 3 2017 games and mario party and then no ever again
@Victor Van Natter Then make the next console compatible with Joy-Con, and cut the splitting idea from the new controllers. You can keep using single Joy-Con if you want, but the new controller doesn't have to suffer because of it. But also, yes you absolutely can still use a D-pad as face buttons. I can't think of a single game that's playable with an individual Joy-Con that also requires you to press opposite face buttons simultaneously. I bought a third-party shell for my Joy-Con that adds a d-pad, and it works fine in my testing.
@@alfo2804 you could also say to just use an 8bitdo controller when you need to use a d-pad heavy game. I don’t feel the switch “suffers” from the face buttons being used as a d-pad
I hope Nintendo keeps the hybrid system of the Switch but maybe boost dock mode so its better when playing on tv. btw the original Switch is about to turn 6 years old in march, not 7 (no hate). You're a really underrated youtuber and i think you can easily get to 1k if you keep making this type of content. Great video :)
Nintendo called out to Sony for a disc drive attachment for the Super Nintendo and Nintendo named it the Super Nintendo play station with a space between play station ^
I personally think it would be best if they replaced the dock with a small little piece that could connect to the Switch 2 or whatever wirelessly (I would personally call it a Switch Hub or something). This would be waaaaaaay easier to take around to other places than the Switch Dock and I'm certain the technology is possible since we have several air play and screen mirroring devices already. Plus this could potentially make it easier to connect to nearby Switches since everyone could just connect to the Switch Hub (it'd still have online capabilities, this would just be if multiple people with multiple Switches wanted to connect with each other on the big screen or something idk). Extra side note I think it'd be hilarious if they did this if they also added Mario as an Alexa feature. "Hey Mario, send an invite to Joe to play Mario Kart." "Okie dokie!"
I think/hope that Nintendo will increase the difference between handheld and home console gaming again without breaking the two worlds apart with a dock that increases the handheld console's power for smooth 4k playing experience. And there will be games that won't work in handheld mode because of this.
I’m thinking the next step for Nintendo is simply a switch that doesn’t need to be docked. Like how the wii u could display 2 screens at once so DS emulation was possible among other gimmicks, but this idea only flies if Nintendo is cares enough about their old games to actually make the step in preserving them though robust emulation on a robust console with robust systems.
I think the best way to emulate DS, 3DS, and Wii U functionality would be to have detachable screens. Then in handheld you would have dual screens like the DS and 3DS, in docked one screen could be docked and display to your TV while the other stays connected to your Joycons. You could also potentially have multiplayer setups where your friend could have one screen in addition to one Joycon in multiplayer. That would probably be the ideal way to handle this. However, I'm not sure this idea is feasible anytime soon due to cost and lag.
@@boltstrike2787 Would be cool to have 3D and maybe a separate accessories for camera. How about adding a slide rail similar to Joy-con rails to do that?
the D pad is fine, because if you think about it if your playing mario kart with the joy cons with friends you would have to play differently if it had a actually d pad i just think they should release a first party joy con with an actual D pad and upgraded jot sticks for all joy cons
By the way, Nvidia checked in last year the drivers for a new SoC (CPU + GPU combination) that is likely the basis for the next generation Switch. It runs with 8 Cortex-A76AE cores and its GPU has 4 TFLOPS of compute. The CPU is likely to be 2.5 times as strong as the current one at the same clockspeed. If they go for 4 cores and double the clockspeed compared to what we have now we’re looking at a 5x CPU performance. If 8 cores it’d be 10x. The full GPU is 2.5x the Steam Deck or 10x the current Switch. If they go for half size, it would still be 1.25x Steam Deck or 5x current Switch. A very large increase in computing power is coming, and that is because the smartphone industry made the mobile CPUs the most innovative field with huge year-on-year improvements. On the Switch we would get 6-7 years of those improvements at once. A first generation Samsung Galaxy S, a Samsung Galaxy S7, and Galaxy S22 are so far apart in performance that they’re completely incomparable.
I just want the gimmick of "online multiplayer that isn't complete and utter trash." Pair that with a new F-Zero that can have up to 30-player online races and we're golden.
I can describe Nintendo's next console. 1. It wont' have the word "Switch" in it anywhere. Nintendo learned a marketing lesson with the Wii U and how the name can confuse possible customers. 2. It's going to still be a hybrid portable/home console. 3. It will continue to use cartridges simply because of that portable aspect. 4. It will likely have a bigger screen, likely OLED. Say a 7 inch screen that will allow Nintendo to fix the biggest flaw in the Switch - the tinyness of the Joy Cons. 5. It will remain backwards compatible. 6. Likely 4k? That is a question. 7. It's gonna have roughly the power of a PS4/Xbox One. This allows a step up in graphics but keep the cost low and will allow developers to use chip sets they understand already,. Beyond that I don't know.
Im hoping the next switch has a 720p/1080p 120hz screen, vrr/freesync or g-sync, up to 4k upscaled with dlss 120hz docked, and performance boosts for old games, it got leaked that it uses a tegra Orin but not which one. Kinda funny how Nintendo wanted the switch to be different from phones but the options look something like android 4 and the os is even part android.
They could make a switch pro or make a new consoles which I'm gonna guess it's gonna be hard for people to agree or get used to it. To make a console to compete against xbox and playstation is a stupid move for Nintendo, as you said nintendo right now is the king of game portability, and people don't see nintendo as a company that is can't compete with Xbox or playstation. Edit: people don't see nintendo as a company that is able to compete with Xbox or playstation*
I am going to be real I think that raw power in a switch style format would be the Correct move for nintendo. not the one they will necessarily take, but for the first time in a long time there is legitimate competition in the handheld market. Nintendo have been able to coast for years basically since the end of the PSPs lifespan as the vita... never did as well as it could. 3DS was basically uncontested for its lifespan, Switch has been uncontested for 5 years, and relaistically while the PSP sold better than the DS did, the DS was a much more Iconic machine and was more influential. But now, with the Steam deck, there is some legitimate competition in the marketplace, and outside of Nintendo purism the Steam deck makes a compelling arguments. the newest Tripple A games, in a handheld form factor, with the added ability to play basically every nintendo game, Plus switch games, through emulation (ASSUMING YOU DUMP YOUR OWN ROMS) with perfomance better than naitive switch in many cases. I am not saying the steam deck is going to "kill" nintendo, but what its launch and success has shown is that nintendo is no longer alone in this marketplace and that they do need to compete now. my gut feeling is that nintendo will truck along regardless, and as time goes on other manufacturers will bring out other steam-deck like products (we are allready seeing it but these are much less notable machines than the steam deck), either in the steamdeck style of a Handheld gaming PC, or an actual all-in-one Handheld consol like the switch. and honestly I think nintendo might have backed themselves into a corner with the switch, because I dont know what other gimmics they can fall back on when other consoles like it come out.
I think it will 100% keep the Switch name to some extent, especially so they don't have to rename the online service when it inevitably gets carried over lol. Seriously, though, as annoying as it is that Online is a subscription service instead of online play being a free thing like earlier consoles, it is kinda nice that they could just make the NSO apps backwards compatible and not have to worry about affectively rebuilding the Virtual Console again. Plus, saving your save data to the cloud would make it a lot easier to carry over a large majority of your saves to the new console (some games like Pokemon are exceptions for obvious reasons). No need to download apps like you did to transfer from Wii to Wii U, since NSO is tied to the *Nintendo Account*, not the console, and it could potentially work in TWO directions instead of just one, meaning any progress you make on the "Super Nintendo Switch" could be transferred back to the original Switch, as long as the game is compatible with both. Funnily enough, with that possibility, you could potentially have a dedicated portable again if you keep your old Switch.
My prediction 1. 5G will be added, there won't be a browser but more so is for online only games like pokemon unite be actually portable too. 2.power will be a on par with a ps4 pro in terms of power, but the actual handheld is still 720p and 1080p native dock, with DLSS is the way they achieve 4K. Simply to just enable current only gen games too kinda be playable on switch like the supposed upcoming call of duties. 3. The gimmick will be a new pro controller, not the actual switch, but the gimmick is gonna be more gamecube controller than wii remote.
With compatibility it's probably smartest to do what Microsoft and Sony are doing right now. Make the Switch 2 backwards compatible with the Switch and continue to make games that are compatible with the Switch but play at higher resolution modes on Switch 2. This means the Switch 2, like Xbox Series & PS5, will mostly be a specs boost. The Switch as it is is basically the perfect mobile console except it's way too underpowered for 2023. Fix the stick drift. Maybe make a larger 8 inch screen model that can push 1080p or 1440p portably & 4K docked. Use a much more modern chipset but stick with ARM. Maybe include a microphone & camera. Maybe even make said camera stick up through the dock so that it would be possible to implement into motion games while docked Kinect style.
About that foldable thing, none of what you said makes sense. Obviously they'd have new games utilize the bottom screen as a separate screen like the DS did and for backwards compatibility they'd have games only display at the top with the bottom being black thanks to OLED.
You don't even need magnetic sticks they just have to use the same software they used during ps2/GameCube days those system didn't have drift because they used proper software, they used something called zeroing where the center was wherever the joystick was when the console turned on, I have no clue why they stopped using that
i thibnk the switch will be considered its portable console and get continued support while a new dedicated home console comes out. the new console should have some special funcionality with the switch
I think the new switch should stick with 720p screen. the steam deck is 720p (800p technically). I think the screen isn't big enough where 1080p would be much of a benefit, and a lower rez allows games to have better framerates and graphics as well as improving battery life. So I personally hope it stays at 720p undocked. Also while I highly doubt it would do native 4k docked, maybe it could have some upscaling technology like dlss or fsr or whatever. maybe this tech could even be built into the dock rather than the tablet
Definitely don't like the Switch d-pad myself but it does make sense given the individual nature of the controllers. A single joy-con being used sideways for multiplayer, having individual buttons to represent the face buttons makes more sense than a d-pad would. That said, using a single joy-con sucks anyways. But I understand why they went with that design ultimately.
The new console would probably release 2024, as Mario Kart 8 Deluxe should need to finish its dlc roll out before a new game releases as well as the zelda games, hopefully we will get 120fps or maybe 90fps in most titles
I truly wonder how they're going to be able to make the switch 2 stand out if they're so limited in what they can change. we've already seen graphics that look much better than what the switch 2 will most likely look like, so they're probably gonna try to impress in some other weird way, I just can't think of what
Switch is a perfect balance of at home and handheld, and I think if they abandon the switch library it would be a horrible mistake, Nintendo finally has a good library of 3rd party games coming in, relying on 1st party was bad why the Wii u failed. Controller wise the joycons are alright definitely needs a traditional d-pad and maybe a little thickness to the back of the remote for grip
It is kind of strange how they don't sell a barebones switch with no dock (but has the capability to dock later) for a reasonable price. Something switch lite doesn't do. I mean take the OLED for example you can literally get a steam deck which has modern hardware and a huge library for the same price as a 6 year old console suffering from being absurdly outdated at this point.
Everyone is saying Switch 2! I say brand new console, not only is it a hybrid like the switch, but it has backwards compatibility with _every_ game. It can play disc or cartridge, you can mod it from your system (been a feature), also, only 199.99$ it’s never gonna happen, but the name’s Nintendo Orbit. 162.15£
Hopefully, there will be a Nintendo Cell (a mobile cell phone that you can attach to your system as the controller or just handheld or tabletop mode) Features: you can add real contacts with their phone numbers and you can call or video call them (similar to FaceTime) You can also have cartridges like other consoles but the cases are much smaller to take up less space (similar to old computer game cases but has game cards) New mii favorite colors: Turquoise blue, gray, yellow-orange, magenta, maroon, aqua green and periwinkle New mii hair detail: add 2 colors in their hair User profile number will be up to 16 members instead of 8 Mii limit number is up to 200 instead of 100 New profile characters: Stanley Paper Mario Mini Mario Toy Ice Flower Penguin Suit Toad Toadette Diddy Kong Rambi Squaks the Parrot Wario Waluigi Ashley 9-Volt and 18-Volt Rosalina Luma Star Bunny Geno Mallow King of the Red Lions Red Link (Four Swords) Blue Link (Four Swords) Purple Link (Four Swords) Links Awakening Link Pikachu Eevee Bulbasaur Charmander Squirtle Male Villager (Animal Crossing) Female Villager (Animal Crossing) Olimar Purple Pikmin White Pikmin Wing Pikmin Rock Pikmin Bulbax Grizzly from Splatoon Ness Paula Jeff Andonuts Poo Lucas Claus Flint Hinawa Kumatora Boney Duster Salsa the Monkey Ring Fit Trainee Male Ring Fit Trainee Female Ring Dragux Elifin Knuckle Joe Poppy Bro Jr Sir Kibble Marx Star Wolf Shiba Inu (Nintendogs) Duck Hunt Ice Climbers Balloon Fighter Wild Gunmen R.O.B. the Robot You can have an unlimited friends or contacts on your system! Whenever you get a call, the game will pause automatically! There will be free internet without the need for internet subscription to log in for all users!
Upgraded specs with VR support. Proprietary headset sold separately. Switch backwards compatible. Console is able to be hooked in to separately sold VR headset and strapped to the body somehow lol. Okay maybe not that one
while the switch dock feels good in the case of leaving it at your tv i perfer the steam decks dock while traveling, its much smaller and easier to transport and then set it all back up again once your home
Main things switch2 should have is metal sticks on the joy cons that have full motion range and then use a 7inch screen or slightly bigger and needs to be more powerful for sure and have full backwards compatibility with the orginal and when it comes to the dock it definitely needs to be thicker and heavy so it's not so easily knocked over and should increase the power when it's docked by a good amount and they should introduce a better way to dock it screens have gotten scratched and it can be difficult at times to put it on the connector perfect but since I personally would like to see a bigger dock I think they should add a disc drive for the wii/wiiu/gc backwards compatibility with 4 controller ports for gamecube that way there is more incentive to actually buy a new switch because just a more powerful switch may not be enough for the people who play on it to want to buy a new one like people like me who love their gamecube wii and wiiu should have backwards compatibility options like that available for the games they refuse to remaster
Maybe 3d? Maybe better vr capability? I mean, the DS was around for like a decade and the only major change was adding a camera (which nobody cared about) and 3d.
I love how people say the Wii U isn't talked about when it's mentioned in almost every video about Nintendo.
It’s never talked about very positively..
Which is weird because anyone who bought a Wii U knows it was a great console.
If calling it the "Wii U" really cost it sales and made people think it was a add on to the Wii..
If it wasn't for the Wii U
The switch wouldn't be what it is today.
They didn't change much
Just made the tablet/console a combined portable unit.
The games on the Wii U got ported to switch or were used as a basis for optimizing future games.
The Wii U started Amiibos.
There really isn't much difference from the Wii U and switched
@@vexzel5550
Agreed. The fact that the Switch relies on the Wii U for many of its successes is proof just how great the Wii U is.
@@filipmartinez1162
It depends. 1/3 is negative, 1/3 is neutral, 1/3 is positive
@Vexzel It wasn't a great console. The Gamepad gimmick was poorly thought-out, which was a huge problem when the entire system was built around it, so they couldn't just ditch it or sell it separately. They then had to make games to justify it, and most of those games did not do a good job of justifying it - either because the gamepad integration was extremely superficial, or because it absolutely sucked and the game would have been better off without it.
The Wii U had some great games, but it wasn't great as a machine.
The reason why they won't do the plus-shaped D-pad is because you need the face buttons on each controller half. The left JoyCon on its own needs to function as an individual controller in its own right.
Good point! Single joycon use would suffer with a plus dpad and aesthetically it looks worse.. Wish I would've realized this when making the vid, please redact my statements 😂
@@Shanmania The real MVP move is to make it hot swappable like a Xbox Elite controller... but that's DEFINITELY not happening haha
Or sell a d-pad cover that clips over the buttons.
3rd party companies already sell them for like 10$.
Nintendo just needs to add it like joycon straps to their bundle
To be fair even with the plus shaped dpad the pro controller is still basically just 4 separate buttons and all 4 can be pressed at the same time this has no excuse to be like this.
even with this, I still hope some joycons have a d-pad. maybe some left joycons could have d-pad and others have buttons. Or prehaps somehow make it swapable. All very unrealistic (especially the swapablr dpad thing) but it could theoretically work. but they probably won't cause Nintendo
I would love to see framerate improvements be prioritized across the board on this new Switch and potentially the push for 120fps while docked.
I'm hoping for 120fps support too, hopefully they give it a 120hz oled screen as they are becoming a standard in phones these days.
@@Wario1382that’s why they’re upgrading the hardware though?
@@Wario1382 yeah but that’s to be expected considering the Nvidia Tegra powering it is from 2015. 2023 hardware could probably run botw at 90-120hz
Nintendo hasn't focused on frame rate since 20 years ago. Good luck with that.
@@jakhow5904 Real question is why are your made up stats bragging about Hz? Hate to tell you this but the current Switch can run botw at 90-120Hz if you have it hooked up to a monitor that can do 90-120Hz.
I think they'll stick with the Switch format, as they usually did with the portables. We had GameBoy and then GameBoy Advance; later we had Nintendo DS and then Nintendo 3DS. So I think we may expect an evolution of the formula in this case.
I also think that they still haven't explored the possibilities of having actual hardware in the dock. We could have some "modular" approach, with somekind of more powerful hardware being activated in the dock for the more demanding graphics that people want to see in big screens, and for portable mode we carry along a somewhat modest hardware that gets the job done. I don't know, but I would expect the dock playing a bigger role if they decide to evolve the Switch concept.
Super Nintendo Switch with backwards compatibility is all I want.
The + D-pad being absent in favor of 4 separate buttons is because of the gimmick of using each joycon on its side as its own controller. That way, the arrow buttons can also function as ABXY.
Personally I'd prefer just... having a second controller.
the joycons are also designed to act as separate controllers.
there is nothing to "correct" with the D-pad because trying to correct it, would make a brand new problem that conflicts with this intended feature of the joycons also being 2 separate controllers.
ngl you sounds like Joe Swanson
I hope there's always a portable console like the switch. Its so fun to just play in bed and feel comfortable
5:09 I agree heavily, I want a Twighlight princess remaster for the switch or a new console so badly.
Not gonna lie I'd rather have Wind Waker ported to the Switch
The reason it's 4 buttons and not a D-Pad is because some games use single joy-con for controller (Super Mario Part REQUIRES using single joy-cons in multi-player) and it gives a layout a bit similar to a SNES controller when put sideway
Nintendo 65 would be good. Give me Mario Tenny
The reason the “dpad” is just buttons because when you turn the joycons into 2 separate controllers they can still be used as individual buttons
The reason the arrow keys on Joycon are not conjoined is to facilitate single-Joycon play. With a + Control Pad, you cannot push opposite directions simultaneously. Therefore, it cannot be used as ABXY action buttons.
aw hell nah, I aint tipping my waitresses or waiters!
One more thing, make online free again!
Everyone out here trying to 'correct you' about the dpad comment, but here's what I'd love to see: Nintendo should just sell a separate left joycon that has a proper dpad on it, so you don't have to modify the shell yourself. The detachable joycons are mainly a gimmick that very few games take proper advantage of. The gimmick is important to help sell the console to kids (parents) and to brand new gamers, but if they gave more serious gamers the option to reduce the impact of that gimmick on their long term play experience I think it would be taken positively (even though its literally selling back a removed feature).
Plus, even Nintendo knows that the dpad is better for games that don't need full joycon functionality, because both the pro controller and the switch lite have one.
The Switch 2.0 (or whatever Nintendo ends up making) really should venture into VR support or something. Accessible budget VR is something we've been waiting for forever. I mean, whether they like it or not, Nintendo is competing with Valve and the Steam Deck.
ALSO, THEY NEED TO FIX JOYCON DRIFT.
The thing I really want to see on Nintendo's next console (in addition to the expected hardware refresh) is being able to cast to the TV while it's in handheld mode, essentially pulling a reverse Wii U.
It can be backwards and forwards compatible. (can be used in the Switch dock and Switch can be used in its dock, just need both for the casting feature to work)
It opens up a path to Wii U and DS emulation.
And maybe some of those Wii U projects that were shelved due to low sales can be resurrected. (like that fully complete unreleased Ubisoft party game)
All they gotta do is not fuck up the name again like with the Wii U. (I firmly believe the biggest problem it had was its name. People just didn't understand it was a whole new console and not just a tablet controller peripheral for the Wii.)
Nintendo switch deluxe
I would say that the switch successor will likely need the following:
1) The window for a small specs bump was 2021 when they were originally planning on releasing a Switch Pro. The insider info points to them not releasing new hardware until 2024 at which point Gen 9 (PS5/XSX) development will be standard among AAA devs such that while they aren't going to need hardware that is Gen 9 powerful they will need to something around PS4 Pro powerful in order to make it easy for devs to port games to the switch successor. They would still likely miss out on some key AAA titles but enough AAA games would still get ported to switch and the vast majority of indie games would easily get ported to switch so they wouldn't be too lacking in third party support.
2) Vastly improved online/app infrastructure. It's 2023 the fact that nintendo's online service is still lacking compared to online that Xbox Live provided back in the 360 era is unacceptable. To make matters even worse, their NSO and E-Shop apps constantly lag and the switch is lacking media apps that even its predecessors had. Part of this has more to do with investing in better online servers but releasing new hardware is the best opportunity to introduce a completely revamped and improved online/app system.
3) Improved Joy Cons. Assuming they are sticking with a similar control setup as the switch, there is still tons of room to vastly improve the Joycons such as making them bigger and/or thicker so they are easier to grip, put tingthe infrared camera on the front to better/driftless pointer controls possible, changing the analog sticks so they are less vulnerable to dust buildup and stick drift, and underside buttons which are standard in controllers these days.
Also nintendo can't go back to directly competing with Sony and Microsoft on hardware because that would require selling hardware at a loss which Nintendo can't do when they don't have non-gaming sectors to absorb gaming sector losses like Sony and Microsoft have.
Not to mention that Nintendo doesn’t want to make a console that would be a complete failure just like the GameCube and the Wii U
@@mk8-mkwil117 The Gamecube wasn't a failure, the PS2 was just that good. Comparable specs, had backwards compatibility with PS1, and could play DVDs.
Not to mention PS2 had a stellar line up of exclusives like the Silent Hill games, Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy, Devil May Cry, God of War, etc. The PS2 was just THE console for the hack & slash genre during the early-mid 2000s among other genres like JRPGs and horror, whereas Xbox was able to coast by with Halo 2 online multiplayer and got to enjoy ports for games like Half Life 2 and Doom 3.
Gamecube _had_ third party exclusives, though, no one was really keen on games like RE4 being on "the baby console." Its a stigma that's existed towards Nintendo consoles as far back as the Genesis Does What Nintendon't campaign, and its never really gone away. Even nowadays people still look at Nintendo as the family friendly option, even though Bayonetta is literally a first party Nintendo IP. Nintendo could acquire fucking Doom or NieR and the Switch would still be the kids console because their mascot is the funny wahoo man.
I'm placing my bets here that it'd be a super switch
The new gimmick being that vr support is now a big thing and not just cardboard stuff
Handheld OLED at 60fps 900p, 1080p for non super intensive games
The dock clocks it up to 120fps, but it only reaches 4k through scaling
That's about it when it comes to specs, gotta be more realistic so the price can be from 300-400, probably 400
Great video. Good thoughts. However, why do you travel with your dock? I just use a 3rd part USB-C port replicator, and a small 60w charger block. Works great, and it all fits in my pocket. (I throw it in my backpack, but it fits in my pocket :))
Great video for amount of videos on your channel , keep it up
11:14 the reason for this i believe is for single joy con use
good vid, deserves more views. keep up the good work!
Great video man, but you need to work on your drift.
Good video I like the ideas. About the d-pad. While I agree that a d-pad is better, if they did that, the left joy con would not be able to be used individually. As those are the four face buttons.
I don't think nintendo is really worried about cutting that feature, i mean prettu much nobody cares about using a single joycon and even nintendo used it in like 3 2017 games and mario party and then no ever again
@@Elchinodawn we use them for Mario kart all the time when we want 4 players
@Victor Van Natter Then make the next console compatible with Joy-Con, and cut the splitting idea from the new controllers. You can keep using single Joy-Con if you want, but the new controller doesn't have to suffer because of it.
But also, yes you absolutely can still use a D-pad as face buttons. I can't think of a single game that's playable with an individual Joy-Con that also requires you to press opposite face buttons simultaneously. I bought a third-party shell for my Joy-Con that adds a d-pad, and it works fine in my testing.
@@alfo2804 you could also say to just use an 8bitdo controller when you need to use a d-pad heavy game. I don’t feel the switch “suffers” from the face buttons being used as a d-pad
@@victorvannatter312 You can't use another controller in handheld mode. The Switch suffers.
I hope Nintendo keeps the hybrid system of the Switch but maybe boost dock mode so its better when playing on tv. btw the original Switch is about to turn 6 years old in march, not 7 (no hate). You're a really underrated youtuber and i think you can easily get to 1k if you keep making this type of content. Great video :)
Thank you, appreciate it! I'm on the same page in terms of the dock haha. And good catch - my bad on the fact checking!
''switch up'' I could see the memes now
i think the super nintendo switch is the best name.
I just want the Nintendo personality back 😭 system music and themes
My uncles also do not work for Nintendo. Great video man keep up the awesome videos!
they should make a console fuck handhelds 90% of people use it stationary #freemelee
That is false
The name of the new console will be the Nintenduo.
Loved the video. An idea for the SNS (super Nintendo switch/switch 2) could be that it comes with 4 Joycons and have the spare on the charging dock
Nintendo called out to Sony for a disc drive attachment for the Super Nintendo and Nintendo named it the Super Nintendo play station with a space between play station
^
I personally think it would be best if they replaced the dock with a small little piece that could connect to the Switch 2 or whatever wirelessly (I would personally call it a Switch Hub or something). This would be waaaaaaay easier to take around to other places than the Switch Dock and I'm certain the technology is possible since we have several air play and screen mirroring devices already. Plus this could potentially make it easier to connect to nearby Switches since everyone could just connect to the Switch Hub (it'd still have online capabilities, this would just be if multiple people with multiple Switches wanted to connect with each other on the big screen or something idk).
Extra side note I think it'd be hilarious if they did this if they also added Mario as an Alexa feature. "Hey Mario, send an invite to Joe to play Mario Kart." "Okie dokie!"
they call him mAIro
I've got it: The Switcheroo
0:44 This gave me ANXIETY.
Its gonna be a nintendo work
I think/hope that Nintendo will increase the difference between handheld and home console gaming again without breaking the two worlds apart with a dock that increases the handheld console's power for smooth 4k playing experience. And there will be games that won't work in handheld mode because of this.
id like that but theres no way in hell nintendo would allow certain games not working in handheld to happen
I’m thinking the next step for Nintendo is simply a switch that doesn’t need to be docked. Like how the wii u could display 2 screens at once so DS emulation was possible among other gimmicks, but this idea only flies if Nintendo is cares enough about their old games to actually make the step in preserving them though robust emulation on a robust console with robust systems.
then you'd lose some functionanlity in handheld. theres no point
I think the best way to emulate DS, 3DS, and Wii U functionality would be to have detachable screens. Then in handheld you would have dual screens like the DS and 3DS, in docked one screen could be docked and display to your TV while the other stays connected to your Joycons. You could also potentially have multiplayer setups where your friend could have one screen in addition to one Joycon in multiplayer. That would probably be the ideal way to handle this. However, I'm not sure this idea is feasible anytime soon due to cost and lag.
@@boltstrike2787 Would be cool to have 3D and maybe a separate accessories for camera. How about adding a slide rail similar to Joy-con rails to do that?
how is it almost 7 years old, its only been like 5 years
the D pad is fine, because if you think about it if your playing mario kart with the joy cons with friends you would have to play differently if it had a actually d pad i just think they should release a first party joy con with an actual D pad and upgraded jot sticks for all joy cons
Great video but MAN, your mario kart footage makes me want to bang my head against a wall.
Played it off my capture card, but that's no excuse bc I'm trash 😂 CTR tho...
New console has been confirmed to be call the switch 360
I thought it was called Switchback. lol
By the way, Nvidia checked in last year the drivers for a new SoC (CPU + GPU combination) that is likely the basis for the next generation Switch.
It runs with 8 Cortex-A76AE cores and its GPU has 4 TFLOPS of compute.
The CPU is likely to be 2.5 times as strong as the current one at the same clockspeed. If they go for 4 cores and double the clockspeed compared to what we have now we’re looking at a 5x CPU performance. If 8 cores it’d be 10x.
The full GPU is 2.5x the Steam Deck or 10x the current Switch. If they go for half size, it would still be 1.25x Steam Deck or 5x current Switch.
A very large increase in computing power is coming, and that is because the smartphone industry made the mobile CPUs the most innovative field with huge year-on-year improvements. On the Switch we would get 6-7 years of those improvements at once.
A first generation Samsung Galaxy S, a Samsung Galaxy S7, and Galaxy S22 are so far apart in performance that they’re completely incomparable.
I just want the gimmick of "online multiplayer that isn't complete and utter trash." Pair that with a new F-Zero that can have up to 30-player online races and we're golden.
Switch 2 wont be a handheld but it will be portable and act as a companion to the actual Switch.
Sonic unleashed music
I can describe Nintendo's next console.
1. It wont' have the word "Switch" in it anywhere. Nintendo learned a marketing lesson with the Wii U and how the name can confuse possible customers.
2. It's going to still be a hybrid portable/home console.
3. It will continue to use cartridges simply because of that portable aspect.
4. It will likely have a bigger screen, likely OLED. Say a 7 inch screen that will allow Nintendo to fix the biggest flaw in the Switch - the tinyness of the Joy Cons.
5. It will remain backwards compatible.
6. Likely 4k? That is a question.
7. It's gonna have roughly the power of a PS4/Xbox One. This allows a step up in graphics but keep the cost low and will allow developers to use chip sets they understand already,.
Beyond that I don't know.
Great video, and men, Super Nintendo Switch, such a beautiful idea, please N, make it happens haha
Im hoping the next switch has a 720p/1080p 120hz screen, vrr/freesync or g-sync, up to 4k upscaled with dlss 120hz docked, and performance boosts for old games, it got leaked that it uses a tegra Orin but not which one.
Kinda funny how Nintendo wanted the switch to be different from phones but the options look something like android 4 and the os is even part android.
Won't happen
They could make a switch pro or make a new consoles which I'm gonna guess it's gonna be hard for people to agree or get used to it. To make a console to compete against xbox and playstation is a stupid move for Nintendo, as you said nintendo right now is the king of game portability, and people don't see nintendo as a company that is can't compete with Xbox or playstation.
Edit: people don't see nintendo as a company that is able to compete with Xbox or playstation*
I am going to be real I think that raw power in a switch style format would be the Correct move for nintendo. not the one they will necessarily take, but for the first time in a long time there is legitimate competition in the handheld market. Nintendo have been able to coast for years basically since the end of the PSPs lifespan as the vita... never did as well as it could. 3DS was basically uncontested for its lifespan, Switch has been uncontested for 5 years, and relaistically while the PSP sold better than the DS did, the DS was a much more Iconic machine and was more influential.
But now, with the Steam deck, there is some legitimate competition in the marketplace, and outside of Nintendo purism the Steam deck makes a compelling arguments. the newest Tripple A games, in a handheld form factor, with the added ability to play basically every nintendo game, Plus switch games, through emulation (ASSUMING YOU DUMP YOUR OWN ROMS) with perfomance better than naitive switch in many cases. I am not saying the steam deck is going to "kill" nintendo, but what its launch and success has shown is that nintendo is no longer alone in this marketplace and that they do need to compete now.
my gut feeling is that nintendo will truck along regardless, and as time goes on other manufacturers will bring out other steam-deck like products (we are allready seeing it but these are much less notable machines than the steam deck), either in the steamdeck style of a Handheld gaming PC, or an actual all-in-one Handheld consol like the switch. and honestly I think nintendo might have backed themselves into a corner with the switch, because I dont know what other gimmics they can fall back on when other consoles like it come out.
I think it will 100% keep the Switch name to some extent, especially so they don't have to rename the online service when it inevitably gets carried over lol. Seriously, though, as annoying as it is that Online is a subscription service instead of online play being a free thing like earlier consoles, it is kinda nice that they could just make the NSO apps backwards compatible and not have to worry about affectively rebuilding the Virtual Console again. Plus, saving your save data to the cloud would make it a lot easier to carry over a large majority of your saves to the new console (some games like Pokemon are exceptions for obvious reasons). No need to download apps like you did to transfer from Wii to Wii U, since NSO is tied to the *Nintendo Account*, not the console, and it could potentially work in TWO directions instead of just one, meaning any progress you make on the "Super Nintendo Switch" could be transferred back to the original Switch, as long as the game is compatible with both. Funnily enough, with that possibility, you could potentially have a dedicated portable again if you keep your old Switch.
All I really want is the personality of the Wii U or 3ds. It’s a crying shame that it was left out of the switch, and I just want to see it’s return.
11:56 it’s 5 am I’m wearing headphones and this sound in the background scared me to shit
I like how amiibos selles more than the wii u
2023-2017 = 6 so the Switch is going to be in it's 6th starting from March, not 7th like stated in the video.
I know ): bad at the maths
Look how they're going the path of the 3ds and name it The NEW Nintendo Switch XL and XL Pro
My prediction
1. 5G will be added, there won't be a browser but more so is for online only games like pokemon unite be actually portable too.
2.power will be a on par with a ps4 pro in terms of power, but the actual handheld is still 720p and 1080p native dock, with DLSS is the way they achieve 4K.
Simply to just enable current only gen games too kinda be playable on switch like the supposed upcoming call of duties.
3. The gimmick will be a new pro controller, not the actual switch, but the gimmick is gonna be more gamecube controller than wii remote.
With compatibility it's probably smartest to do what Microsoft and Sony are doing right now. Make the Switch 2 backwards compatible with the Switch and continue to make games that are compatible with the Switch but play at higher resolution modes on Switch 2. This means the Switch 2, like Xbox Series & PS5, will mostly be a specs boost.
The Switch as it is is basically the perfect mobile console except it's way too underpowered for 2023. Fix the stick drift. Maybe make a larger 8 inch screen model that can push 1080p or 1440p portably & 4K docked. Use a much more modern chipset but stick with ARM. Maybe include a microphone & camera. Maybe even make said camera stick up through the dock so that it would be possible to implement into motion games while docked Kinect style.
This kept me watching to the end! So surprised youre a small channel! I subbed.
I love your thumbnails
It's going to be powerful!!!
The FFX music is just nice
About that foldable thing, none of what you said makes sense.
Obviously they'd have new games utilize the bottom screen as a separate screen like the DS did and for backwards compatibility they'd have games only display at the top with the bottom being black thanks to OLED.
You don't even need magnetic sticks they just have to use the same software they used during ps2/GameCube days those system didn't have drift because they used proper software, they used something called zeroing where the center was wherever the joystick was when the console turned on, I have no clue why they stopped using that
It's time for a new Nintendo system. The Switch is 6 years old for heavens sake.
3/2ds backwards compatibility
2017: Nintendo Switch
2019: Nintendo Switch Lite
2021: Nintendo Switch OLED
2023: Nintendo Switch Pro
2025: Nintendo Switch "2"
i thibnk the switch will be considered its portable console and get continued support while a new dedicated home console comes out. the new console should have some special funcionality with the switch
Better joy con grip that has extra buttons and a separate battery than can charge joy cons
I think the new switch should stick with 720p screen. the steam deck is 720p (800p technically). I think the screen isn't big enough where 1080p would be much of a benefit, and a lower rez allows games to have better framerates and graphics as well as improving battery life. So I personally hope it stays at 720p undocked. Also while I highly doubt it would do native 4k docked, maybe it could have some upscaling technology like dlss or fsr or whatever. maybe this tech could even be built into the dock rather than the tablet
The leaks are really there
Definitely don't like the Switch d-pad myself but it does make sense given the individual nature of the controllers. A single joy-con being used sideways for multiplayer, having individual buttons to represent the face buttons makes more sense than a d-pad would. That said, using a single joy-con sucks anyways. But I understand why they went with that design ultimately.
The new console would probably release 2024, as Mario Kart 8 Deluxe should need to finish its dlc roll out before a new game releases as well as the zelda games, hopefully we will get 120fps or maybe 90fps in most titles
I truly wonder how they're going to be able to make the switch 2 stand out if they're so limited in what they can change. we've already seen graphics that look much better than what the switch 2 will most likely look like, so they're probably gonna try to impress in some other weird way, I just can't think of what
I would love a new clamshell handheld like the 3ds
Switch is a perfect balance of at home and handheld, and I think if they abandon the switch library it would be a horrible mistake, Nintendo finally has a good library of 3rd party games coming in, relying on 1st party was bad why the Wii u failed.
Controller wise the joycons are alright definitely needs a traditional d-pad and maybe a little thickness to the back of the remote for grip
Cushion of some sorts on the inside of dock
I love super switch idea
Or you could do like a dockable switch oled lite
It is kind of strange how they don't sell a barebones switch with no dock (but has the capability to dock later) for a reasonable price. Something switch lite doesn't do. I mean take the OLED for example you can literally get a steam deck which has modern hardware and a huge library for the same price as a 6 year old console suffering from being absurdly outdated at this point.
@@blaket1841 They sell dockless switches in Japan lol
Everyone is saying Switch 2! I say brand new console, not only is it a hybrid like the switch, but it has backwards compatibility with _every_ game. It can play disc or cartridge, you can mod it from your system (been a feature), also, only 199.99$ it’s never gonna happen, but the name’s Nintendo Orbit.
162.15£
5:46 “The Transition”
Hopefully, there will be a Nintendo Cell (a mobile cell phone that you can attach to your system as the controller or just handheld or tabletop mode)
Features: you can add real contacts with their phone numbers and you can call or video call them (similar to FaceTime)
You can also have cartridges like other consoles but the cases are much smaller to take up less space (similar to old computer game cases but has game cards)
New mii favorite colors: Turquoise blue, gray, yellow-orange, magenta, maroon, aqua green and periwinkle
New mii hair detail: add 2 colors in their hair
User profile number will be up to 16 members instead of 8
Mii limit number is up to 200 instead of 100
New profile characters:
Stanley
Paper Mario
Mini Mario Toy
Ice Flower
Penguin Suit
Toad
Toadette
Diddy Kong
Rambi
Squaks the Parrot
Wario
Waluigi
Ashley
9-Volt and 18-Volt
Rosalina
Luma
Star Bunny
Geno
Mallow
King of the Red Lions
Red Link (Four Swords)
Blue Link (Four Swords)
Purple Link (Four Swords)
Links Awakening Link
Pikachu
Eevee
Bulbasaur
Charmander
Squirtle
Male Villager (Animal Crossing)
Female Villager (Animal Crossing)
Olimar
Purple Pikmin
White Pikmin
Wing Pikmin
Rock Pikmin
Bulbax
Grizzly from Splatoon
Ness
Paula
Jeff Andonuts
Poo
Lucas
Claus
Flint
Hinawa
Kumatora
Boney
Duster
Salsa the Monkey
Ring Fit Trainee Male
Ring Fit Trainee Female
Ring
Dragux
Elifin
Knuckle Joe
Poppy Bro Jr
Sir Kibble
Marx
Star Wolf
Shiba Inu (Nintendogs)
Duck Hunt
Ice Climbers
Balloon Fighter
Wild Gunmen
R.O.B. the Robot
You can have an unlimited friends or contacts on your system!
Whenever you get a call, the game will pause automatically!
There will be free internet without the need for internet subscription to log in for all users!
Ill be honest, if I'm gonna prioritize a console that I want, I 100% want a 3ds pro. 3ds to me just feels like the better console than the switch.
Upgraded specs with VR support. Proprietary headset sold separately. Switch backwards compatible. Console is able to be hooked in to separately sold VR headset and strapped to the body somehow lol. Okay maybe not that one
nice video
keep going
You sound like dollar tree Joe Swanson
Nobody suggested Switch Supreme?
The next console? 2025.
A fourth Switch model? May 2023.
7:24 i love 180p best resolution!
while the switch dock feels good in the case of leaving it at your tv i perfer the steam decks dock while traveling, its much smaller and easier to transport and then set it all back up again once your home
Main things switch2 should have is metal sticks on the joy cons that have full motion range and then use a 7inch screen or slightly bigger and needs to be more powerful for sure and have full backwards compatibility with the orginal and when it comes to the dock it definitely needs to be thicker and heavy so it's not so easily knocked over and should increase the power when it's docked by a good amount and they should introduce a better way to dock it screens have gotten scratched and it can be difficult at times to put it on the connector perfect but since I personally would like to see a bigger dock I think they should add a disc drive for the wii/wiiu/gc backwards compatibility with 4 controller ports for gamecube that way there is more incentive to actually buy a new switch because just a more powerful switch may not be enough for the people who play on it to want to buy a new one like people like me who love their gamecube wii and wiiu should have backwards compatibility options like that available for the games they refuse to remaster
Maybe 3d? Maybe better vr capability? I mean, the DS was around for like a decade and the only major change was adding a camera (which nobody cared about) and 3d.
i dont ever play handheld mode so i hope nintendo will make a new gamecube like console
LCD display and oled when released but both have small bezel