WATCH LIVE: Missing Mom Murder Trial - CT v. Michelle Troconis - Day 12
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- Опубликовано: 28 янв 2024
- Jennifer Farber Dulos vanished on May 24, 2019. Dulos, a mother of five, was in the midst of a divorce and custody battle with her former husband, Fotis Dulos. Michelle Troconis and Fotis Dulos were in a relationship during the time of Jennifer's disappearance. Troconis is accused of conspiring with Dulos to murder Jennifer and cover up the killing. Jennifer’s body has never been found and it is assumed that she is dead. Michelle Troconis now faces trial for her alleged role in this brutal crime.
#MissingMomMurder #MichelleTroconis #lawandcrime
NOTE: Both sides Waived Their Opening Statement, but No Reason was Given.
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This is the best judge I’ve seen in any trial I’ve watched
Yes! I love him
@@TinaO-pn7jxold school is the best, I notice that also Tina. Very calm Judge re: defence lawyer.
@@wawa754me too. Kindest thoughts to you and your family and Furbabies from Australia
“Well..”
I do not agree! I believe this judge has testified and inserted his opinion throughout the entire trial.
If by chance she is found guilty she will get off on some technicality on appeal
Who in the world cleans their hands on a sidewalk? It just doesn’t even make sense.
Very strange
Right…idk, maybe it was a booger…lol
I mean if you had something sticky on your finger and no tissue or paper towel, you might wipe it off on the ground rather than on your clothing or something. That’s a scenario I have seen in my lifetime (boogers, gum, food whatever). She didn’t appear to have anything in her hand. What are people proposing she was doing? Taking a look at the grate there?
@@embeth446I wondered that too.
I e actually done it before myself. Haha. Didn’t want to wipe on my clothes. I have also wiped on grass. But I’ve never driven around while someone disposed of multiple bags in multiple cans.
This Judge is STELLAR 👑 IN HIS RELM … ❤
Agree. Sitting up there like a straight king .
It’s very odd that when the investigators told her that Fotis in fact murdered his wife she goes and says did you check the house. It’s kind of suspicious bc she didn’t even say are u sure or what makes u say that. This means she knows he killed his wife and she knows how he got rid of the body
I thought she meant it as like ‘have you checked that she’s not home or hiding’ that was my reaction to what she said until they started making a big deal about it. Didn’t seem off to me.
Like …. WHAT??? FOTIS ???? NO WAY!!!! HE WOULD NEVER DO THAT. Nope, none of that ……. Did you check the house?? She doesn’t do well coming up with lies on the spot. She has to think her lies through & then can’t even stand on them. 5 children are without a mom or a dad….. this lady is directly connected to the reason for that. I’m not a fan of hers at all.
Exactly..she didn't even question the fact that Jennifer was possibly murdered. She was at that time still considered a missing person. Michelle is GUILTY.
@@bytheriv8that makes someone guilty? Pretty sure the police indicated that multiple times to her by either outright saying it or talking about the bloody items. We haven’t even gotten thru all the evidence yet.
She lied for her married boyfriend and he left her with all the evidence she lied about and now she wants to claim she doesn’t understand what happened in and around that time frame, so she’s being caught in the whole story about her knowing her boyfriend was lying to her about his wife! Unbelievable how she thought she could get away with all of this now that he’s gone!!
Not because of her annoying defence lawyer, but because of F.Ds Narcarcisstic, controlling, abusive behaviour to his first wife, to Jennifer M.T could have been so brainwashed by Fotis in regards to Lies about Jennifer Michelle could have been totally trusting and could be Innocent. I'm 50/50 in regards to Michelle's guilt. Remember when you are with a Narcissistic Psychopath, who is controlling they manipulate your life to the extent of the victim believes them. Kindest thoughts to you and your family and Furbabies from Australia 😢"In the arm's of the Angel's Beautiful Jennifer" my heart breaks for her children, mum, dad, siblings family and friends 😢🕯🌹🦋
Strange she remembers so much detail except anything about the time dropping off of the clothes
The judge is a great teacher but the trial is going to take forever
I agree he is great and yes we will be here til christmas 😅
With all due respect, Michelle's lawyer is monotonous in his arguments. The police officer was extremely patient and seemed bored himself while being questioned. I hope this case moves slightly faster than it is.
He is very annoying actually reminds me of Johnny Depp and Heard = Elaine. I Absolutely agree .. kindest thoughts to you and your family and Furbabies from Australia x
He’s terrible, I have to skip over him. He says “ right?” after every question. Ugh
I don’t recall, not to my recollection, I don’t remember that. Meanwhile, he fiddles with the water bottle.🙄 He looks very truthful.
How many people watching this Trial believe Troconis is guilty of the Charges against her?
I’ll be first one to say - GUILTY AS CHARGED
Completely.
Not guilty. She’s being charged with conspiracy to commit murder. The only thing that they have shown or proved is she was with him after the fact. Where is there any proof she knew about the murder when it happened or helped plan it before hand? And I would say no proof she even knew what was in the bags he threw away.
Conspiracy is just one of the charges!
@@Slakker79 you must be new here….smh
@@bamazing2731I’ve watched this whole trial. Please tell me what the they have proved.
Oh my mercy if this judge does this at every objection this trial will never end.
🤣😂
Some things need clarification
He is a meticilous, wise and patient judge. The way he takes out time to explain his rationale for every decision, thus minimising room for future appeals, is quite inspiring. We need more judges like him in the courtroom!
He is amazing ! So calm , and he explains in detail why he overrule or sustains the objection. I think it is very good and fair to hear why the court take the decision to overrule or sustain . He is patient , honest, clear, fair & knowledgeable about laws, and impartial ❤
I agree this judge has no control over his courtroom and insist on testifying with every objection!
At that pace this case will last a year!
05:30 courts begins; continuing cross exam with fmr Det Kimball re: interrogation
01:22:00 return from break
02:37:30 - 03:40:00 lunch break
03:54:00 re-direct
05:09:00 return from break
05:25:00 re-cross, re-re-direct, re-re-cross lol
06:02:08 Trooper Suzania Sedenszki re: obtaining neighbor surveillance footage
06:11:00 cross
~FIN~
Thank you❤
1:58:00 return from morning recess
@BrandyLaneBLVD thank you!
@ajqueen31……..once again many sincere thanks for your timeline pin, we really appreciate it. Blessings from Queensland Australia 🙏🇦🇺
@@ajqueen31 thank YOU!
The judge is doing a great job
45:00 Trial Begins
2:00:00 Back from Break
3:17:00 Lunch Break
4:19:20 Court Back in Session
5:28:10 Court in Recess
5:49:00 Court Back in Sesssion
The fact that she didn't attend her daughter's school play...what could be more important than that
yes that really made me wonder too
The way the judge says “Overruled” is hilarious for some reason. Not to take away from how great he is overall.
“Overruuuuuuuled”
he is a pastor studying law.
I love it too :)
😥😢@@harrond
😂😂😂😂 love it!!!! Sounds so matter-of-fact
I feel this Judge may have a photographic memory.
I thought the same. But I'm wondering if he may read the question in his computer as soon as it's transcribed.
@@user-pp6id4kg9h his memory is remarkable, he remembers every piece of evidence that’s been presented instantly.
Has anyone else notice that all the witness forget the questions once the judge insets his exhaustive, never ending interpretation of what was just said???
OMG!!!
After 12 days of testimony, it appears the defense attorney is going to hang his hat on a thunderstorm that occurred early in the morning of 5/24/19. He's going to say that Michelle was in her daughter's room for the remainder of the night, and when she woke up Fotis was already gone. Therefore, Michelle couldn't possibly know what his plans were or where he went. Only problem with that defense is that according to morning testimony on1/30/24, the state police testified that Jennifer and Fotis were brought to the state police barracks on 5/31/19 for questioning and informed why they were there. So, if Michelle knew on 5/31/19, that Jennifer was missing and bloody evidence was found, why would she continue to try and provide cover for Fotis during her 2nd police interview on 06/02/19. To me that is the pure definition of hindering prosecution. She was advised that it would be her only opportunity to provide any pertinent information, and not be considered a suspect. And if you watch the interview video , she talks in circles, tells nonsensical, irrelevant stories, but never directly addresses the questions being asked. To me that is a willful act of muddying the waters, and preventing police from garnering any valuable evidence. And if she was in the truck while he was dumping bloody clothes ( and possibly body parts) at numerous stops, she is not an innocent by-stander, but rather an accomplice. Her attorney is certainly welcome to try and elicit a sympathy vote from the jury, but this trial isn't about emotions, and it's not about Fotis Dulos either. It's about Ms. Troconis being a first hand eyewitness to Mr. Dulos's actions the day of, and the days following his estranged wife's disappearance. And her failure to promptly report all she knew and observed to police.And it doesn't matter that she might have felt pressure from, or was being directed by Mr. Dulos, at the end of the day she's an independent adult , and has a responsibility to do the right thing. The fact that she consciously chose not to, is the reason for the charges and potentilal punishment. I'll also add that I feel she is being poorly served by her attorney. His constant objections to irrefutable evidence should embarass any one associated with his law firm.
Pretty sure she said initially he was there & jumped in the shower with her
Could have been in distress and scared to go against Mr. Dulos. I would think being told by a bunch police that the guy she loved and was involved with was a total stranger and killer, and that she too was being accused, would be extremely confusing and hard to wrap her head around. Is it a crime to not report a crime? Did she have a duty? Just playing devils advocate
@@monivecc2982 possible she was scared , but she's an educated woman, or so the claim is, so she should understand guilt by association. If she's living in a home where the other resident is the primary suspect of a murder, she can't feign ignorance. Interesting that the police had to step in and put her in lockup to protect her from Fotis as it didn't appear she had sense enough to get out of the house on her own. I'm just not buying the "innocent waif" act. If anything the employee said about the comments Michelle made is true, then she's isn't as understanding and compassionate as her attorney claims she is. And I'm having trouble excusing her from the ride on Albany Ave to dump evidence, and accompanying Fotis while he had the employee's vehicle washed and detailed to destroy evidence. And her first two police interviews, she was not truthful and lied about Fotis being home until almost 7:00 am on the morning of 5/24/19. Doesn't matter whether he told her to lie, or she felt scared, in the end she made the decision to lie for him, or what prosecutors term "hindering prosecution".
Did she really say i went to the bathroom & changed my Really talk about TMI. How uncouth & inappropriate! She is a fool.
Right? Not to mention @ that time (not time of trial) she was then already 47. I barely have them anymore @ 45….so was she really 😂 let’s get an OBGYN on the stand to testify lol. It’d be more interesting than the constant objections!
So gross
She is absolutely disgusting
What is with this woman? First the “shower s@x” with FD and now this? Why say it? I don’t trust her. She drove him to do this. He was a straight arrow before meeting her.
Thou protest to much
Defense attorney keeps going on about irrelevance… you know what’s irrelevant? How many times he goes on about the sandwich she got at Starbucks and how it didn’t taste good. He drones on about the most ridiculous minutiae!
The sandwich that was so disgusting, MT handed it right to FD and he immediately took a bite & continued eating. The one said they threw away, yet he walked out with it in his hand. She was clearly lying about the sandwich, why who knows.
Or the irrelevant question about do you know how big the house is? I mean it’s got like 8 bedrooms right 🤦♀️
@@debsibson7071With the house, I think he was trying to stress how large it was as if it’d have been easy for the cops to overlook things or be overwhelmed. Because law enforcements investigations are always attacked by the defence.
@@patriotpeasant199he was trying to say b it made sense fir b the daughter to send a text,rather than walking to her room
I wish Oxford had this judge
Fotis Dulos is extremely nervous in the store video. She didn't notice, huh?
She knows why he is nervous 😮
Yep he was nervous !!!!
Judge should use sidebar where arguments are not heard by the jury or anyone else many objections should be stricken
By the way, this discussion- it appears to me that Michelle was trying to "block" the view of the car that was going to pull out. It seems like she opened the door to block the view to the drain, and Fotos then uses the door as a shield and then disposes of the doctored license plates. I am surprised the State hasn't suggested this as a possible reason she opens the door.
Because that is BS
Because it would get overruled as speculation
Because this is not a guess game it's a trial.
Also bc if they were aware of cameras why in tf would they be disposing the items this way in the first place?
@@monivecc2982 she could have been trying to block/distract view from bystanders (not necessarily cameras) bc someone dumping a garbage bag of theirs in a trash bin wouldn't be necessarily suspicious to a bystander who doesn't know the whole circumstance (people who miss garbage day do that sometimes) but someone dropping an envelope down a sewer would look VERY suspicious. I think her doing that made it appear to a casual bystander that he was bending down to assist his partner with something and diverts from the envelope
So is that part of this defense attorney’s technique….”to interrupt and redirect”?
Yes, apparently that's all he's got. Very ineffective
I don't know why but the defense atty. reminds me of Ichabod Crane.
The phone connecting to the Suburban means nothing. My phone automatically connects to my car stereo, so if she had connected her phone to that vehicle in the past, it would have connected. That doesn't mean that she was alive and driving the Suburban at that time. It only means that her phone was in the Suburban.
Shoot mine connects with the Bluetooth while in my house when I use the remote starter if its close enough it doesn't have to be in the car at all to connect.
This lawyer is really dipping!!!
He interrupts the Judge!!
The Judge is an awesome listener!
He’s extremely on top the game!!
This woman is spending a lot of $$$ on a trial going nowhere!!!
She’s sooooo complicit in this she plays victim dumbness!!
Exactly!
The Judge is awesome
That could be where Fotis prepared to clean the house to remove any trace that Jennifer was there. Michelle possibly helped him unknowingly that he was attempting to clean up after Fotis removed Jennifer from the house.
When one of your defense strategies is to impeach weather websites relied upon by law enforcement during their investigation, it’s time to consider hiring another defense attorney . . . or try to get a plea bargain. While I appreciate defense counsel’s enthusiastic efforts to defend his client, it comes across as throwing everything against the wall to see what sticks, which serves to dilute any credible points he may have.
The defense should have stipulated early On that Michelle was dead and dulos killed her. then they could have Focused on defending against The conspiracy charge. they should have taken a plea on the cover up charge.
The detective is a real sleuth. ❤
I absolutely love this judge.
The judge is SO IN Tune OF THIS DEFENSE ATTORNEY!!
He’s all over the place.
She is complicit!!
Then uses language dumbness as a victim!!
Ughhhh she was living with the evil murderer !!! Coward!!!
This is one of the most aware judges I have seen so far. He seems to be on top of everything.
This judge helps the lawyers too much, just overrule or sustain without telling the lawyer how to ask the question.
He is only creating a record with a rationale for each of his rulings. That is essentially to defeat an appeal on judicial error not to instruct the lawyers.
It’s also preventing them from constantly wanting to “approach” the bench. He’s gotta smack em down like 2 toddlers & keep them in place.
It's his courtroom
He is a hardworking and meticuous judge, and also a natural teacher and intellect.
Does this attorney think that lock of hair hanging on his forehead is sexy?!😂
I’m sure she is not trying to look sexy. Maybe she doesn’t want a total face shot on every occasion. Most would do the same.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He reminds me so much of better call Saul...same exact voice and same hairdo! 😂
@@fernandaolivares7926 omg yes I've posted the same thing lol ........100% lol
5:53:15
Does anybody else notice that Fotis looks like he's limping here as he walks from the cooler back towards where Michelle is? It's hard to catch the first time.
Good bless this case and for justice to be made, but I’m here for the Judge and his constant having to teach these lawyers the law.
He is only creating a record with a rationale for each of his rulings. That is essentially to defeat an appeal on judicial error not to instruct the lawyers.
@@daddyboy3546 Well, correct, but isn’t this approach rare? From what little I’ve seen on recorded trials, this is something I have not seen before. And for those of us who are not in the world of law it sure seems as if he is facilitating, correcting, and clarifying the lawyer’s objections just as a teacher would a student in the classroom.
I don’t understand how there’s people saying that she’s innocent. She’s clearly guilty at least of knowing what Dulos did. It’s clear in her interrogations. “Emmm, I grabbed my phone, Emmmm I took a shower but I didn’t wash my hair because i usually just take a short shower and washing my hair takes a long time. Emmm, emmmm, emmmmm.”.
Anyone with common sense and a rational mind is not going to help your boyfriend or girlfriend dump bags in trash bins in Hartford
Who says she has common sense or is rational?
@@bamazing2731 re-read what I wrote: anyone not everyone
To me it sounds like being in a relationship with Fotis is akin to Kanye & Bianca's.
“Come on honey, we’ll go dump some trash far from home and then we’ll get Starbucks.”
To Lori in Conneticut
Omg that just made me laugh out loud!
I know … it’s so ridiculous!
Where did he put her body? You think others helped? His friends?
I missed it, what does shaving his head have to do with anything? No hairs left behind at the scene? The sandwich importance?
Changing his appearance or eliminating any evidence of blood or Jennifer's DNA from it, just guessing.
Get with the program…this trial is going to last forever at this rate.
Who wipes their fingers on a disgusting public sidewalk… NO ONE ‼️
What is happening. ...no sound...
I am getting very frustrated with this judge. Just make the call without going on and on. At first I tho7t it was nice he was educating everyone, but this trial is long enough. I am sure he means well, but yikes.
the two lawyers for the prosecution are so efficient and effective. and detective Kimble ... the perfect witness
I thought the detective was weak.
Shall we count how many times shonehorn looks at the jury? The most obnoxious Atty I've ever had the misfortune of listening to!
Agreed!!! He is a budget attorney!!
Oh well take a listen to Crumbley trial and he may fall out of first place 😂
Judge Kevin Randolph - Bravo 🙏
Michele don't get bonus credit imo cause she could had bn throwing cops off by drawing pic knowing Jennifer wasn't there I do feel bad for her cause the hubby killed himself left it on her but that's price u pay for messing w married man RIP JENNIFER PRAYING FOR JUSTICE
She could have drawn the entire landscape of the home & land surrounding it, adding as much detail as Bob Ross….while all the while knowing where Jennifers body was, but not circling anything to have cops look here or there. It was all silly really, as if her attorney was just trying to prove she was helpful. But she wasn’t helpful, just a bunch of needless detailed crap she spewed. She may have appeared she was helping police with investigation, meanwhile she was hiding all relevent info. It felt more like an interview & not an interrogation.
She was being evasive smh
I cannot stand her attorney!!!!!!
Why such huge sighs from the detective. 🕵️ if he’s so sure what he believes in her involvement then all answers should be easy. Just saying
I think he just wants to make sure he is answering truthfully and to give the prosecutor the chance to object if necessary.
This arrogant, annoying defense attorney feels so smart when he corrects people. It’s funny how every time someone says “object”, the judge always starts off with “well the question really is….” And goes on to explain the question before saying Sustained or over ruled!
Yeeesssss, I thought I was the only one who thought the judge was so funny, the way he handles the “Objection’s”
Judge are you a pastor too ?
This defense attorney is so annoying, idk what it is about him. It’s irritating to watch his
cross-examination
OMW This defence attorney is sooooooo long winded and annoying!!!!!
Ms Tricomonis gives me the creeps!
What a milk weed this defense attorney is
I paint as a stress reliever....it's a great hobby.
Why respond to these bots who are not on this site for the Trial!!??
Me too
Only 63 comments? For shame!
This is the cream of the crop as far as cross goes:
You have the lead detective on cross-examination against the lead defense attorney...
Sound?
MT is not believable. She definitely lied & was trying to keep her story straight and provide FD with an alibi for especially the morning of the 24th. She provided oddly specific details such as phone call at 12:59a. Her story has had plenty of inconsistencies. For example, she said she went to her daughter's room and left her phone behind in her room & slept in daughter's room. She then said alarm went off at 6:40 and she woke and then Fotis. But how did she hear it from a different room? I am sure FD likely was part of instructing her on what to say or even to do (go places & save receipts for example) to create an alibi. But she at the very least knew he was up to or had done something. If she somehow didn't realize until JD was missing that something was off, she sure as heck knew then. And when she was questioned. And again, she was NOT honest & repeatedly changed her account. She is highly suspicious. And by the way, she said that Starbucks sandwich was disgusting & they threw it out. Yet we saw her pick it up and hand it to FD who began eating & walked out holding. Interesting. This Mr. S defense attorney is definitely trying to play the doubt card, but I hope the jury is paying close attention.
Maybe it was her daughters alarm since it was a school day?
Good catch on the alarm, although later she says something about her daughter's alarm...her testimony is all over the place...The incoming calls do check and she did have lunch with Fotis from 1 to 2pm.
But here is the thing, on interview 2, she talks for 2 hours of the places Jennifer could be, she cries AGAIN at the realization of putting her daughter with someone capable of killing, she is horrified...and then she says she believes in her heart Jennifer is still alive and hiding! Of course only to later say again she believed Fotis killed her....
She also later changes her story about Foti's phone, in interview 2 she never saw it, in interview 3 she answered it...she is a mess.
I think:
1. She has been HUGLEY conditioned, to the point of confusing reality with the stories fed to her.
2. She is simply not a smart woman at all.
I think she covered for Fotis for both of these reasons, not because she thought she was covering a murder.
I just keep seeing Morgan Freeman when I'm listening and not watching when the judge speaks
Could he have turned his shirt around? In the footage where he was seen without the circle logo on the back, could this possibly be the same shirt w the logo now facing the front?
Forward at sandwich place, facing back after word
A Circle was on front and back of tshirt in Starbucks. Now I need to look back at his shirt in the other videos..
Defense attorney is aggressive/combative, not like able.
😑
Attorneys don't have to be likeable.
They do if they want to win the case! Especially when a jury is involved
Yea, whenever I need a defense atty I want someone weak and not aggressive said NO ONE EVER! You’re literally fighting for your life. I want aggressive and combative. I want my attorney to fight for me!
Sorry but this detective is acting far too nervous. He was cool as a cucumber on Friday but now he is cotton mouthed, sighing before answering in at least 25% of the questions and drinking before them as well. Doesn’t sit well. Especially with a well trained detective and someone who has testified more than most people in court. He even admits his technique failures. Really shocked at the comments here about him being so
Patient. No way! Don’t think this was above board at all. Very strange behavior.
Would LOVE to have a body language expert do an assessment of him when he is calmly answering question to prosecutor and then today. Wow.y gut is screaming something isn’t right.
@@athompson5089I thinknhe made mistakes. Her signed waiver of rights went missi!
I think the State is still working on convicting FD. Doing a good job of that. Except it's MT on trial for conspiracy. I haven't heard much or any evidence implicating her. TBH I hope the State has more... because I think the case is leaning towards NG.
He put a sandwich down on a dirty chicken, unwrapped. I about died. Yuck!
This defense attourney is the real life Better Call Saul guy, exact same voice, hairdo and everything....I bet he also has a gold toilet..
Is it just me or is too much time being wasted on the fg weather report!!!!!!!!
Hope this trial gets somewhere QUICK 😅 Very boring start with The most annoying defence attorney
Oh Juror 62 had to leave the country today so 62 has to be replaced with an Alternate Thank you Judge; that is what Alternates are for. I think they now have 4 Alternates left, I think not positive though.
There's only 2 alternate jurors left now. When the trial started there were 5 alternate jurors. The first alternate was dismissed for saying "we love you" to two members of the prosecution while in the elevator, which brought it down to 4 alternate jurors. The second alternate was dismissed for posting on social media comparing what happened to Gone Girl, which brought it down to 3 alternate jurors. And now a third alternate was switched to an official member of the jury to replace the one who had an emergency, which brought it down to 2 alternate jurors.
Were is the evidence it's all hearsay so far no concrete proof she's involve they have to prove without reasonable doubt and the lawyer is doing a good job on this detective
There’s proof she got rid of evidence so she should at least be guilty of that.
The alibi scripts show conspiracy
I wouldn’t be surprised if Fortis has made advances towards the nanny before. Remember when she said he was pushing her to take up real estate career. He targets wealthy women. The nanny is the type that doesn’t get swayed easily.
No way. Nanny was poor. He only went after wealthy women.
Does anyone here also order a fairly expensive sandwich and then throw it in the trash? I don’t know - I’m not wasting food like that even if it’s not too tasty.
She’s a socialite, so yes her taste buds are too refined for a sandwich from Starbucks 😂
I hope the prison food will be more palatable for her high standards.
No appetite after murder
I am poor. Nevertheless I also have refined taste buds. (Have not always been poor and had the opportunity to eat meat, vegetables and cereals before they became just a means to make money).
So I have more sense at my age then to order a sandwich at Starbucks & co. and expect it to taste or even be consumable. It’s not like she has gone days without eating. She could have waited until she got home to have proper, tasty dinner.
test DNA for blood? that's counter intuitive, and f*cked up 🤪
Did they go to Starbucks before or after she spit her gum in her hand and wiped it on the pavement. Because yuck.
Right, no class at all
Good question.
Starbucks was approximately 10 minutes after the trash dump/ drain dump (supposed gum throw).
Am i the only one who thinks that the call from the daughter was staged and they set things up so Michelle WOULD be with the daughter that night, because they (Fotis & Michelle) both knew that Fotis was going to go and do what he was planning to do. I think he and somebody else set things up using the motorcycle and they parked the 2017 Chevy where it was, because her body was moved from the back of the suburban to another vehicle and then dumped somewhere else.
😢
Voice condition of this court is awful!!!
Still live,?
That means that someone had her cell phone & vehicle 🚗 🚴
Am i alone in feeling like the judge seems to favor the defense? He helps the attorney with questions, favors the defense in his rulings, enforces different rules for the prosecution....
I had the opposite opinion. I am worried that the judge favors the prosecution. Plus, the prosecutors are as arrogant as lawyers come. Especially the male. I cannot stand the fact that he thinks sarcasm is cute in this setting. It is cute in movies about trial lawyers, but not in real murder trials. The prosecutors cut of the judge and speak before the judge decides on an objection as much as the defense counsel does and then some.
That big inhale/exhale before every answer is a lot.
In my humble opinion , Fotis was a narcissist and major manipulator. This woman probably believed anything he said and probably did not question much of his actions even thought she must have seen some red flags about BF like lying to her about some issues with ex wife but she decided to have a blind eye because she loved him and never thought he could turn devil. He used her but I don't think she was there when he killed his wife and don't think she helped cleaning . She was only with him in the truck when he was throwing garbage bags to trash but not ounce she helped , he did it on his own. Unfortunately she was with him at the wrong place wrong timing wich looks like a an accomplice , it looks suspicious yes but I don't think she is guilty of killing or helping someone to commit a crime.
She is not under arrest for murder they're not saying she did the killing it does look like she knew about it and helped cover tracks after the fact, waiting for the rest of the evidence
I like a lot about this judge but he helps the defense way too much to word his questions appropriately. It’s also frustrating when the prosecutor objects and the judge says back what he thinks was asked but it wasn’t worded the way defense did so it makes the objection look pointless when in fact it’s not how the defense worded it. Traconis should be paying the judge not her attorneys he’s doing all their work 😅
I was initially informed about this case when it first occurred, and I followed it to some extent before discontinuing my attention. However, I recently resumed my interest in the matter merely a few days ago. I must say, Michelle Traconis possesses an exceptional lawyer, to be precise, a remarkable legal representative. 🤔
Omg 😆 😝
Let me get my glasses … I think I read this wrong!
Any lawyer whose Objections are almost ALL OVERRULED is an incompetent lawyer who is just objecting to nearly everything in attempt to see if by some miracle, the Judge will sustain the objection (which almost never happens). This Judge is OVERRULING 9 out of 10 objections by the Defense. Defense lawyer is looking like a total fool!
I’m getting my glasses because I’m sure I read this wrong! 😳
Or is this supposed to be a joke? 🤔
@@marybryner5562. Hahaha! Me too!
@marybryner5562 😂😂same, when I hear him it reminds me of my nephew throwing a fit
Fake
Thrown her gum out onto the sidewalk, typical 😂 spitting her gum out , what other unsavoury pursuits does this lady have ???
Total scapegoat here. She shouldn’t be on trial. The putting gum on the sidewalk is a normal thing when it sticks in that situation. She then scraped the sticky away on concrete. Perfectly normal. There is no proof she was involved or knew what he was doing. None.
I feel “normal” people will dispose of chewed gum by wrapping it in a tissue (that most women have in their handbag) then discarding in the trash. Squatting at the curb to smear chewing gum on the sidewalk does not compute + is not factual
It’s not normal to scrap gum on a pavement. The bin was right there.
@@KrhaaviIt is not factual. ? That’s it close to the dumbest thing I have heard.
@@wend5678well here where I come from, sometimes a chewy sticks and you will get rid it it anyway that is quick and yeah then wipe the sticky of your hand as quick as possible. It was perfectly normal and if she was doing anything criminal, then you wouldn’t leave chewy there would you. Your DNA is all over it. Common sense wouldn’t you think ?
@@stevenprice6957that’s why murderers end up getting caught though because they can’t think of everything to eliminate themselves. And no, I think it’s disgusting to put gum on a pavement, you use a tissue and put it in the bin. There was a bin right there.
At time of his death he moved on had a new girlfriend