What Happened to PRO ERA? (Documentary)
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- Опубликовано: 13 фев 2022
- After relistening to alot of older work from Joey Bada$$ recently, I couldn't help but to think, whatever happened to PRO ERA? They seemed to have a TON of hype, and just never lived up to the expectations they set when they first started to burst onto the Hip Hop scene.
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They never fell off, they organically went on their own path. Plus, STEEZ’s death effected the collective, similar to what happened to A$AP MOB when Yam$ passed. They were the heart and soul of the movements
Honestly I thought Rocky was gonna keep the whole mob afloat with ALLA
@@hoodieleek4272 what Yam$ brought to the table as an A&R can’t be replicated
@@camiamproducer yeah but damn at that point Rocky was still HOT. So many people forget that Rocky is literally the lost 4th of the Kendrick Cole Drizzy comparisons he was dead center in the talk and you couldn’t even deny him and if I remember correctly Fergs song Shabba was still booming around that time as well. Shit I see it tho Yam$ was a huge part in the momentum and how they should do things
The only difference is that ASAP rocky and asap ferg became very successful artist and figures in the culture. Pro era didn’t have nobody become a star like that.
@@suttlelinda8657 Joey could be arguable
Music was waaaaaaay better when I was highschool. The whole Pro Era, Mac Miller, OFWGTA era, etc. I’ll forever cherish it
Dude yes I fucking miss that era so much. Smoking weed with your friends and listening to them and Action Bronson, The Underachievers, & Casey Veggies!
That era was different
@@sway_9803 lol
Definitely bro
Bruh youre my soul mate
I still listen to pe everyday. Just cause they ain’t growing doesn’t mean they don’t got loyal fans holding it down
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On the gang ^^^
Omm bro i wish Joey would release King Capital already, i’ve been waiting on that shit for a hot min
We loyal fans will always be here🍒💯💪🏾
@@gilbanzo4187 That shit never coming out, it's not Joey's fault. It's STEEZ's toxic ass family. They've been trying to shake Joey down over shit they don't have the rights to. There was some drama between Joey & STEEZ's sister a while back which told a lot about the dynamic.
Nyck Caution has been spitting frfr recently and I personally like his music more than anything Joey has been putting out, he's slept on but getting more recognition
I akways thought Nyck caution was the weakest of the group. Its his voice i think
Facts, lul bro be spitting
Surprised you didn’t mention the Beast Coast album that came out a few years ago. It got a fair amount of press before it released and they even did a live spot on jimmy fallon. Its a super group with PE the Flatbush zombies and the underachievers. Prolly would support the whole “they fell off” observation, but it was a notable body of work
Good point I definitely wanted to dive more into beast cost and underachievers in another video!
Beast Coast is not Pro Era , everyone knows Flatbush Zombies carries that unit
Nah it’s definitely a group thing
@@ericgriffin4520 besides them who else really coming out with anything decent in the last four years ? I’m waiting
Joey was on it too I believe. Shit has an entire album of just masterpieces
Bruh you gotta do more research if you wanna call this a “documentary”, You say they fell off but you really don’t know much about any of their projects. You only mention 3 Joey projects and American korruption. After 2012 Joey released rejex, rejex 2. Pro era released the secs tape and all of their members have released a lot of their own projects that have done well. It seems like you aren’t much of a fan of pro era, It’s pretty obvious that you just listened to Joey,s 3 albums that are on mainstream streaming platforms and took a quick glance at the pro era wiki page, then decided to make a video on them without being too informed
This
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Yep, half ass documentary.
I was actually gonna write my own comment until I saw this. You read my mind, at first I thought I was a pretty good video then not much was brought in the terms of PRO ERA and the crew’s individual projects. Plus how we was comparing everything to 1999 showed he didn’t care about anything else until it sounded like it. Mad disrespect in my opinion to not show love to the other crews work. One love.
You didn't talk much about dirty Sanchez and he is literally fire, cj fly, kirk knight, dessy hinds, nyck caution, Ala soul all got bars in their own right
His acting in Raising Kansan was incredible. I would actually really enjoy seeing him in more movies/series/shows as someone who graduated in 2013 and listened to him since high school I must disagree on the acting. Don’t hold someone to 1 category cause you don’t know what they have to offer.
CJ Fly's album RUDEBWOY was honestly one of the best hip-hop albums of 2020 in my opinion he has an aggressive delivery and chooses beats that make him shine in a sense. Nick Caution's mixtape was tuff but it didn't stick with me the way RUDEBWOY did, that album is an honorable mention for best pro era releases in my opinion behind 1999, B4DA$$, Amerikkian Corruption, AMBadass and maybe PEEP.
Cj Fly, Thee Way Eye See It ?
Good opinion, I'd personally rank the Pro Era releases like this:
1) 1999
2) PEEP
3) Amerikkan Corruption
Well, Capital Steez died. He was the one with the vision that united the whole group. Joey in 2013 had a different style than in 2012, and it didn't fit with the rest of the squad as well. Capital Steez would have been more interesting of an artist had he lived.
Fax 💯
FACT
I was behind PE 100%. I still slip in Kirk knights project ‘liwii ‘ in my public playlists. To this day I’m still disappointed with how big Dyemond Lewis could have been 😔 him and Joey had chemistry. I felt like no one stepped up to be the leader. Joey was the face but wasn’t that good of a leader to push the others. PE’s downfall is very similar to ASAP Mob’s
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As a grown fuckin man if you cant lead your own career and put yourself out there in the right way you just gotta take your L
Don’t Make it seem like his acting is bad. Because as an Rapper that dabbles into Acting, He’s Top 5 when it comes to that. Bro even won a golden globe for his acting that’s a huge accomplishment
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His acting is pretty good, but he got a role in the Wu Tang Show (Deck) which really wasnt suited for him. He would've been much better as a RZA or GZA, but I'm not sure if he has the acting chops for a main role...
Pro era needs to just come back together and drop a tape
Nyck caution is killing it lately and in addition his previous ablum anywhere but here really got the recognition he deserves
Pro Era fell off when they abandoned that boom bap sound and started chasing the mainstream trap sound. Chuck strangers is the only one out of that group who's still keeping that sound alive. CJ Fly somewhat as well
Pro Era STILL out here spittin fire. T'nah got some new music, all members recently released or are releasing projects, Joey, Powers, CJ and Nick killing it with Beast Coast. Chuck got a solo project coming, Capital Steez got a post mortem album that my drop one of these days. They just had to get there game up, train, practice, work, get better, but never ever sleep on Beast Coast. As Steez said "its hard to fall off when you comin in first, and your mind is at one with the earth!"
I’m a huge STEEZ fan but King Capital is never coming out. It’s been almost 10 years since his passing and it looks like Joey could care less if it comes out just look at the relationship He has with STEEZs family.
@@MARKEDONE47_ yeah the joey and Steez family thing sucks and its probably never coming out but who really know for sure, as long as people keep Steezy in they memory ill be happy
@@MARKEDONE47_ its up to STEEZ family to release it allegedly
@@33GLOCK Ive heard that before but I’d imagine they would want to release it to honor their family member, I’m sure they’d receive money from the release too.
I’d say nyck is a lyrical beast. The underdog from Pro Era that never got the spotlight. I’d say him dropping solo is the best thing for him right now.
Ahh I love nothing more than finding people who love music groups I do. Pro Era till Infinity 🙌
Bro honestly you inspired me to listen to all my old streelo on SoundCloud! 47 shit. I need to get my mind right
"Eff a rap critic
He talk about it while I live it
Talk about it while I live it"
This video undermines Joey's acting career a lot. He's a key character in some of the best drug-related shows out rn and is a hell of an actor. RIP STEEZ tho
cj fly still hittin heavy- he droppin on the 22nd
Steez is one of the greatest rappers I have heard in my over 20 years of listening to Rap music
He looked to guide the members of the pro era and build a movement almost like Tupac did with Thug Life
He's also one of the most talented lyricists I've heard ever he reminds me alot of Earl Sweatshit and I can defs tell he listened to alot of MF Doom I would bet, he's a true Poet that loved to play with words.
All in saying that I absolutely love this guys music the reason he took his own life is a mystery mixed into Tragedy not only for his family.......but for us the fans he has alot of music yet to be released as Joey can not do a thing so I have heard big shame
Neegus my bruh RIP Steelo 47 forever
The small ep called "The Light Pack" that Joey released the last year was also pretty good and it gives me hope for his future, but I honestly don't feel the last single. I mean it's not bad, but we expect more from Joey
glad to see i’m not the only one listening to this type of music in 2022
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Joey badass newest single is an indicator that PE is crumbling, he Lost his passion hasn't dropped an album in 4 years, he was the face of PE after Steez passed (RIP) he let everyone down for his own ambition which I don't blame, but never delivered to his fans after, dude rather model clothes then give his fans some decent music
With Out capital steez it wouldn't been no pro era he was like the face of pro era 💯‼️
no kapp everybody got their flows from capital steez the FOUNDATION
@@soultribej facts I Still Play His Old Shit Till this Dat 47 For Life‼️💯
If Joey doesn't drop his next album soon, it's officially a wrap for him. It's been 5 year since his last album. He's not Kendrick or cole. Waiting that long, it better be a perfect album but the single so far isn't great
Yes yes
He's better than Cole to some including myself so there's that.. he put out singles EPs and the Collab project with Flatbush zombies and the underachievers so he hasn't been completely off the radar you're just sleepin
@@dabs.47 as a huge joey fan myself, i wouldnt say hes fallen off either but he definitely needs to drop that project (and it better be good). Nothing that you mentioned was really stand out though. His last ep was good for what it was, but it didnt seem like something that wouldve resonated with core fans. I still listen to his old stuff all the time but ill admit its been a while since hes really impressed me so we’ll see.
@@imofftheleantho I think the new stuff is solid it's jus music to rock and vibe to, tho I didn't like the revenge as much, beast coast is a very solid project imo they jus went for that modern sound and killed it.. if they stuck to that 1999 boom bap shit ik y'all would be bitching for something new or say they fell off..
Joey's new album _2000_ drops on Friday - and I can't wait!
Expecting a return to form.
Steez died and it was never the same, I remember all the hype slowly disappear after that
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Bruh this man obviously wasn’t a real fan of pro era lol. He said the they only had 1 collab project when they’ve had 5. Not to mention Kirk knight and Nyck Cautions collab project Nyck@Knight. And Peep the aprocolypse wasn’t their first. It was the first Seccs Tape. And their only competitor wasn’t only odd future at the. They came up during the “new New York wave” where a lot of solidified ny rappers came up and some fell off like ASAP mob, action Bronson, bodega bamz, suicideboyz, Troy Ave etc. And CJ Fly is arguably amazing, all his single projects are fire. I feel like they haven’t even fallen off, I feel like they have a cult following and they’ll remain underground considering they have their own label and it’s doing well for the underachievers sales wise. Not all of them are as successful as Joey, CJ, Nyck, and Chuck though.
1999 Is one of the top rap albums ever imo
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PEEP is one of the best rap group albums/tapes of all time imo. Such an absolutely amazing project, one skip (Florists) and everyone on the project has such great technical ability & personality
Thee Way Eye See It by CJ Fly & Disguise The Limit by Nyck Caution were dope projects by PE, also Kirk Knight produced Plain Jane by A$AP Ferg. I always looked forward for a Dessy Hinds project from 2012-2016 but it never came. I thought they would have took of advantage when they had some more buzz, but s/o to PE they came through with some dope music.
I used to bump those projects by CJ and Nyck heavy!! Good times
I like the comparison to odd future, because that is actually one aspect they possibly have in common, that being the groups were just vessels for a dope artists to propel themselves
Out of all of them I think chuck went in the best direction. Linked up with all those new dope lofi / minimal lyrical rappers (the Slums crew and associates). If he's in that scene I reckon he will keep dropping heat for a while. Great hip hop subgenre if you haven't sussed. Earl sweatshirt is probably the most known rapper in it these days but Mavi is also dope.
exacctlyy. pow p did the industry network thing too
Exactly Chuck has been killing it
@@ngang1957 industry network thing what is that ?
Yo I was just thinkin about what happened with Pro Era as a collective a few days ago while relistening to some old albums.
I peeped Kirk's, CJ's, Nyck's albums/mixtapes when they came out and that single Dirty Sanchez put out like 2-3 years ago. But never saw anyone talking much about them at all. Even though Nyck's Disguise The Limit is mad quality imo. I don't know if they all need more cohesive advertisement or what, like drop closer together in a ProEra season or something, I dunno. But it's kinda wild how much Pro Era's faded. Hope they pop off more. Good to know they're still getting solid streaming numbers though. ...Hearing T'Nah on a feature track with like Rapsody would've been fire.
It has been pretty quiet for a bit, but Joey did drop that Light EP like a year or two ago btw.
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I still remember every song from the 1999 tape, I keep in contact with the producer Freddie Joachim. I'm still bumping Joey and all the members music to this day. When I die I'ma get my kids hip and say when I was walking home from school around 2012-2013 this was life to me.
love the video! im gonna watch the others fosho 🔥
nice work !💯
Only getting started! Let's goo!!!
bro you gotta hate to see it, joey badass came in the game so strong that even though his music is dope now people still hating on the man.
It's really cool seeing this shit through the eyes of someone a little younger than me. I was in college around this time. I'm a little jealous that I didn't have this experience when I was in high school.
I felt the label didn't give a damn about pro era and mainly just joey and a very select few members of pro era. So the label put most of the marketing and budget behind joey and let the rest of the group fall to the wayside.
Plus the fact that music started to evolve more and pro era got boxed into the classic 90s rap hip hop genre. OG pro era fans like the classic old zchool style, but it doesn't appeal to new listeners that much. So their fanbase doesn't grow but instead it stagnates and slowly decreases because many of the pro era members dont consistently drop music. But idk if they're not dropping music because of label politics or because they just aren't dropping. But I think that's what struck a major blow to pro era, not dropping And being boxed into 90's hip hop. Cuz even Flatbush and underachievers weren't boxed in as 90's rappers, they had their own unique sound. I think the zombies outlasted the others because everything they do comes from in house. No label cuckery and they don't have to rely on any outter entity for beats merch and release dates
Yuh! Cool video!!!
10:34 he did release the light pack in 2020 but that was only 3 songs
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I’m not gonna lie, I been heard about Joey Bada$$ for a while and I heard Capital STEEZ name pop up when I watched a vid about rappers that died. At that time tho, I was closed off from rap and never listened to their rap. I started making music myself less than a year ago and recently started to be consumed into rap in general and finally decided to listen to Capital STEEZ not expecting much and expecting only a hand full of songs. But boy, was I surprised and heavily influenced. Then I listened to 1999 by Joey and he is probably one of the few people I would want to meet. Their stuff is amazing and some of STEEZ’s songs I play on repeat. Man I really wish he wasn’t gone. I’m working hard to make my first mixtape/album will live up to theirs and more.
I think cj fly's thee way eye see it was one of the best projects that came out the earlier days when pro Era was popping. I think he's the most underrated member in the group that's still active now.
They never fell off or loss popularity. Joey is a A List Celebrity, actor, and fashion icon. Nyck and CJ are still making music, touring and have a VERY LARGE fan base.
Chuck is still making music and is in high demand for production out LA. Powers Pleasant is still DJing heavily and doing ALOT of shows.
By the way CJ is just as big as Joey on the underground scene. He just dropped a project recently.
As a collective, they missed their window. Cause they could’ve and should’ve been WAAAYYY bigger. I always compare them to OF cause of their collective talent but Odd future split too, yet all of them collectively are more well known than that of Pro Era. Frank is one of the most sought after artist that people feign to hear, Tyler is doing BIG things! Syd & the internet are doing their THING!.. Earl has the underground on lock with the alchemist, Knxwledge and all of them.. Domo doing his thing! Even Hodgy Beats aka Jerry has rebranded himself and is making it musically…. They’re all killing it with names for themselves… on the other hand, If you wasn’t true fan of Pro Era you won’t really know who Dirty Sanchez is or A la sole aka Aaron Rose, or Dyemond Lewis (who left the group), or Dessy Hinds, a lot of people don’t even really know Kirk like that. So they definitely could’ve been bigger.. & STEEZ passing away had a lot to do with it.. RIP King CAPITAL
ill always have love for Nyck Caution,…. 1999 will always be a true throwbacks
Another Hype Beast video. Y'all some damn energy vampires at this point. PRO ERA FOREVER
KING CAPITAL STEEZ
The nostalgia gives goosebumps
imprinted in my mind is the underground 2010s
Yo said CJ Fly wasn’t amazing? Ain’t no way😭 he’s one of the best out of Proera
This guys not a fan
Just listened to 2000 and it was MAGNIFICENT! And I’m not even a Joey badass fan, but now I am lol
Kirk Knight one of the best producers in the industry (prod. A$AP Ferg, Lil Wayne, Juice WRLD, etc) & NYCk Caution can hang with the best lyricists too
Nyck raw with his lyrics. The underdog.
Dirty Sanchez is still active, super active he creates and drops almost Bi Weekly 47 Merch plus his music and still consistently holding it down for Steez . Cj is bouta drop a lil project , Nyke still doing shows making numbers & Kirk just got a platinum plaque for his producing plus his own music he’s got on the side . Chuck is constantly making beats and dropping projects They all got different paths and things going for themselves at the root of it all it’s still 47
Being in the 6th grade-7th grade listening to these guys especially Steez, I was just in ah cause I used to think these guys were like gods of rapping😂😂😂 Joey shouldn’t have been the only booming right now though..
Glad I ran into this this video search nostalgic. I listen to them til this day, rest east, capital Steez, great video.
i personally liked the light pack joey did
It’s not bad. Hurts to think we probably not getting another good album
Your channel underrated asf
Chuck strangers dropped some dope projects
B4.DA.$$ was undoubtedly his best album
I think Joey could make a comeback anytime. The culture would support it.
This aged pretty well, his album 2000 was great
Summer Knights and 1999 was litty. after that his music declined significantly. I think the hunger is lost after success. Happens all the time in music. 1999 brought that feeling
Louaista bro Do one of these for Mick Jenkins..
Let's face it, Pro Era and Joey Bad died when Steez died. He was literally carrrying them from the background.
Bro I just miss their Cyphers and the best thing ever came out before each member going solo was the Beast Coast Album in collab with The Underachievers and Flatbush Zombies. Now everyone’s going solo with no collab in sight for a sign of hope. We need this experience once more.
Thanks for covering this, been missing PE lately. PEEP has been on rotation a lot since the 10th anniversary passed. Being a teen in Brooklyn when 1999 / PEEP came out was such a surreal feeling.
I think another important part of Joey's career was when XXXTentacion died. They seemed to make a really strong bond within the time that they knew eachother and for Joey to lose someone else that was close to him must have been devastating.
Yesss brooo
My guy said summer knights was trash I don’t think you even really touched the surface on pro era
defentily subbing
The documentary was good, I hope the beast coast will be revived.
Rip king capital
PRO ERA was Dope!!! They needed a better Strategic plan in order for every artist under the roster to be equally successful, like the Juice Crew/ Flava Unit/ or even a lot of the extended members of the WU Tang Clan (Killa Beez)
They supposed to be where grliseda at today
@@darionjackson2599 I AGREE 100%!!!!! If everybody’s camaraderie was at the same accord, it would’ve been a whole different story
@@maximuskeyes5914 bc they believe in the same music and they style of hip hop wasn’t for that generation doing that time but they all had different opportunities outside of music they went for it Griselda was more hungry for it and took it
Check out “let it breathe” great track released by Joey. It’s on SoundCloud
Tnah Apex actually dropped a project in 2020 called Voice of reason it was pretty good tbh.
Joeybadass and cj fly are the founders you sure about that?
Yeah he dk
Don't nobody sleep on chuck strangers, his new shit go crazy
Lou! Bro so you’re saying you’ didn’t fw the light?
Always weird when someone says "hey artist.. who is doing something i cant... you no longer create YOUR art the way IIII want you to... so now you wacc" lol
Especially when its an "other" saying it
Agreed, Joey has even said they don't make their music for people like that
Omg yes I remember this era I miss it! This was when I was in high school good times
Dessy Hinds debut album is dropping this year. Spoke to him directly and have an unofficial copy of the album sent directly from him
Man those were the times.
When I met powers p up in la at this hotel function first thing I did was thank hime and pay homage to steelo shit was wild to be face to face like that
Obviously Joey Badass is still doing his thing but on the low Nyck Caution has put out some amazing slept on projects too.
Should’ve mentioned the seccs tape Vol 1 n 2 and the shift ep
With rap groups the come up is nice …but fame and money determines the vision I don’t blame Joey ,ASAP rocky ,50 cent Eminem , Q Tip for deviating into their own ambitions , when you realize your own potential it’s hard for to keep thinking for others …end of the days is about what’s hot and relevant and it’s sad if you can’t keep up …Wu Tang is the only group which has more than 4 members which branched off and still remained critically acclaimed be that as it may they also had a lot of term oil . It’s tough for groups
CJ FLY and Dessy Hinds were in the Many saints of Newark a sopranos story.
They only got a scene in but it’s fire to see them on the big screen.
Syd the kid also doing her thing still to this day with OF
10:33 he didn’t mention that joey dropped the too lit Ep in 2017 and the light pack in 2020 while he was working on 2000
'Thee Way Eye See It' by Cj Fly is a really Strong project with a lot of great tracks like 'Still the motto' (prod by cooking soul), 'supreme' feat Joey badass or 'Locomotives' and many more...
Bruh I was just thinking about pro era
The last prot era song I heard or even thought was worth a damn was king to a god featuring Joey Bada$$ and Dessy Hinds. Joey bad asses verse in that song reminded me of 1999.
The last pro era song I heard or even thought was worth a damn was king to a god featuring Joey Bada$$ and Dessy Hinds. Joey bad asses verse in that song reminded me of 1999.
Nyck caution was one of the best imo
The PE cypher pt 1 and 2 together is still my favorite. Dirty Sanchez is fire, a la sole was fire, swank master raw was fire, shit even Kirk Knight was fire in that cypher.
Good video/breakdown. I love Pro Era. You're right that they definitely just had that combination of swag, skills, & style, especially for a group so young. I didn't get into a lot their group stuff, besides Joey's material where they were featured, until the last couple years. But been listening to them heavily since. I obviously knew them because of Joey & have always loved his flow as he's one of my favorite contemporary rappers.They could've been really special as a group. Like you said I think two of the big reasons they fell off as a group was that they really were #1. Just too big in size. It's hard to be very successful over a long period of time with a group that big. Even Wu-Tang during their rise focused on a lot of their solo projects for 4 years (with a lot of features from other members) before they dropped their second group album in 1997. & I think that was the right move. #2. reason was definitely Steez's death. Suffering a loss of someone who had that kind of impact, leadership & skills to a group would be devastating & I just don't see how you'd be able to recover from that fully or how it'd ever be the same. He probably would've been one of the all time greats had he lived even a few years longer. I'm sure there were other reasons but feel like those were big factors that kinda killed their buzz/progress. I'm still a huge fan & will always bump their stuff. Fav. posse cuts besides Suspect (Third Eye Shit) are Last Cypher (Peep The Aprocalypse) & Sorry Bonita (Summer Knights). Those tracks really showcases all their skills. But with that said, hard not to think what could've been.
This vid is so corny there’s no need to put down trap or modern rap, you can just praise boom bap without being corny and pretentious about it smh
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Lool you're a goof
1999 was all i use to listen to back then
Capital Steez THE FOUNDATION🐐
Legal tings is whats going on.... Look up 47records its a separate entity from pro era Joey badass is doing his own thing with HIS name (ikno yu see him in the Power universe, Raising Kanan) and 47records is like dirty sanchez and rockamouf doing their own ting.... Its ultimately money issues Joey badass greased his old team..... 4 the $$$
Joey a "Brooklyn N-word" so u know he grimey
I wonder if they separated cause Joey didnt wanna put his homies on, they didnt wanna get affected by the evils of the music industry, or if it's because they were affected by the death of STEEZ.
The thing is that you think like all people that if something isn’t mainstream then it isn’t good. Cj flyy, Nyck Caution. They all doin’ realy cool shit. Pro Era ain’t dead. The ways of pro era members just split up.
Rest in peace Capital Steez
Steez was the leader when he died I knew it was Over