Fantastical Vehicle Chase Tale Complicates Phone Booth Mystery | Angela Hammond Case Analysis
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
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I don't know if this can help someone, but I came out of a 24 hour grocery years ago, and a flashy car was parked outside. When I got into my car to leave, it followed me. I took circuitous routes just to see if I was being followed, and I determined that I was. I ended up turning off my headlights and parked in the police station parking lot. I saw the guy cruising, not understanding what had happened to my car, how he had let it get away. There are bad people. Find a way to get away.
If you're being followed call police. Happened to a coworkers daughter, followed from a highway rest stop / food / gas place. Police did get the guy and he had put a tracking device on the girls car. This happened in 2019
Creepy! Good advice ♥️🎃
That exact same thing happened to my mom -but back in the 50's. Was BC (Before us Children), and my Dad was at work. She saw a strange guy watch her walk to her car when she came out of the grocery store, and then saw him following her.
No auto garage doors back then. She knew she had to buy enough time to get her car in the garage.
She made her way all over kingdom come trying to throw him off. She lost him at one point with just enough time to get home, park, slam the garage door down, and run into the living room. Peeking through the curtains, there he was …(shock?) cruising up and down her street looking for her car.
Always drive to a police station. Once this happened to me late at night. Was obvious I was being followed so I drove to the station.
My dad always told me to drive to the police station if I was in danger. He also told me not to let my gas tank get to empty before filling up. Make sure you have enough gas to drive a circuitous route if needed. This was before cell phones, but still good advice.
Of all the cases on “Unsolved Mysteries” this is the one I remember the most. What a horrible situation. During his interview, you can see and feel the pain Rob felt that he didn’t get to her.
I totally agree with you. It's so heartbreaking. I have never thought Rob had anything to do with her going missing.
Me too
Same here. Everytime I think of Unsolved Solved Mysteries, I think of this case. I asked Dr. Grande to analyze this one last month. I'm glad he did. I still pray for her and although not likely, I hope she is still out there somewhere. Rob's story is so sad. I really hope he didn't have anything to do with her disappearance. 😢
Same here! 💯 As a young woman, the crane shot of the phone booths, small store, and quiet parking lot at nighttime, were profoundly disconcerting to me, as well as the old truck with that semi-opaque fish decal 🎣 and the melodramatic scream of “Robby!” 😧
Ultimately, that specific *Unsolved Mysteries* episode was one of their best produced & directed. It was quite an eerie, disturbing episode that apparently burnt itself right into our TV memory. 📺🔥🧠
RIP Rober Stack ❤
Loved that show so much!!
That opening music was so scary,to me,as a kid..now it just gives me this incredible wave of nostalgia 😏
Is it just me or does anyone else watch Dr. Grande's videos before bed? They are soooo interesting and relaxing, even though most of the stories are unsettling. Thanks Dr. Grande for all you do! Wishing you and your family the very best!
Dr. Grande's voice is very calming. I love listening to his voice before going to sleep
and his voice is so calming lol
How Devastating for Rob, to be so close, and then, a break down!
He also lost his unborn child
It doesnt sound implausible to me. She stayed on the phone instead of retreating to her car because she was on the phone with possible help. And rob might not have called the cops because he was hurrying to make it to the scene. This was all before cell phones.
I was 16 in 1991, I lived in NC, but it was a pretty rural area. I cannot remember exactly when 911 became a real thing where I lived. I think it was in place by the time I left for college, but I can't swear to it. I was always taught dial 0 for the operator, because that is what we had. They didn't have the turn around and tech resources 911 has that aid expediency. Clearly even with 911 in those days they did not have the internet. I don't think it was unreasonable that he went after her in lieu of calling of help, especially if he was that close. If they were on the dial 0 for an operator system, he could have been on hold longer than it took him to drive there.
@@trace9657 exactly. If she was being kidnapped and his house is only a half mile away he could literally be there in 45 seconds and give chase. If he waited at his house he'd be on the phone with 911 for several minutes and he wouldn't even have a detailed description of the vehicle. He did the right thing. He had the worst luck in the world his car malfunctioned.
I think I also would probably have felt safer in the booth than making a break for my car if the guy was lurking right close.
@@intentionallyleftblank3016might have been more like a row of "booths" but open where the legs are exposed
@@intentionallyleftblank3016 yeah, it's a psychological thing. You're actually talking to potential help right there on the phone. If she hung up and made a run for her car the guy could intercept her and now no one knows for sure what happened.
I was at at junction waiting to turn left next to a Ute with p plates and two young men sitting in the truck about to turn right. Without warning they turned left after I did and it became obvious after a couple of miles they were following me. This was in the middle of the day. I was making turns without indicating and they were on my tail. It was very scary and I knew I couldn’t go home because the street would have been quiet with everyone at work. I just started to drive to a police station and as soon as they realised where I was going they disappeared.
wow I'm so glad you are okay where did this happen at??
I grew up and still live in Clinton. I remember going up town to watch them film the unsolved mysteries episode. Thanks for covering this.
I've heard that many trucks in the area had that fish sticker on the back window. So you know if that's true
I grew up in Windsor. These ppl that still blame Rob don’t understand that if he’d been connected to a distinct truck like that ppl would have known about it. I don’t think the abductor was from Clinton, Windsor, Knob or any place around there. If they had been local they woulda been caught.
@@magangramm5685yeah but all
they have is robs description of the truck that angie supposedly described him. If Rob made that up then of course they’re never gonna find him linked to a truck with with the fish on the window, cause it doesn’t exist
@@magangramm5685i believe rob. but i can understand where people are coming from on the other side of the coin
Sounds plausible to me, the predator circling and then snatching his prey, the panicked boyfriend rushing to the scene a lot faster than the cops could have been there, the chase interrupted by an American car malfunctioning.
She didn’t retreat to her car because she didn’t realise she was in danger, and neither did her boyfriend - they were just trying to be helpful to the guy.
I agree. Also, at that age I'd have been too worried about offending somebody by showing that I was scared of them. Just in case they were harmless. I mean that does happen..some people are over-sensitive that way.
What an absolute nightmare for Rob and Angie’s family. I’m glad that you are bringing attention to this case. Her loved ones deserve answers and she deserves justice
To me, it's beyond Terrifying the way these Innocent Women were Kidnapped!
@@robovac3557calm down you're getting scary with your idiotic ideas here 😅
I remember seeing this story when I was young. I would have been 17 I guess. I also remember seeing something on it years later and thinking "Mercy, they never caught the guy." I think it was Unsolved Mysteries or something along those lines. It always stuck with me, she would have been near my age and the supposed near miss with the boyfriend. I just hope whatever happened to her happened quick.
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😂nurse here too. I listen on my commute to the hospital for my night shifts
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Was this on unsolved mysteries about 20ish years ago?
This case always haunted me. I saw the videos years ago on you tube and was surprised how many others said the same thing.
Hope this brings more awareness and answers.
Yes it was.
They showed a picture of a truck with the fish bumper sticker, it's an image I'll never forget for some reason.
I know I commented on her too. it was so creepy!!!!! 30 years ago unsolved mysteries!!!!!
I think Rob’s story is believable, sometimes life is stranger than what we see in films.
Yes so do I. I believe his story.
Our whole building did that same move once. A lot of kids in our complex had talked about a weird guy watching them while they were playing football, so when my son came inside from taking the trash to the dumpster and said the guy was out there again, the whole building emptied out and chased him down. The couple upstairs, the maintenance man above them with a baseball bat, I ran out with a knife, one old lady had a broom. We must have looked a sight, but we were faster than the cops, and we actually cared. Sometimes people just take care of the ones they love.
@@Hollylivengoodso what happened? Did the old lady beat him with her broom?
How can a young man move on from this? A part of hime saying after a few years "she must be dead" and another part saying "keep looking". What a terrible situation. He also lost his unborn child to murder 😢
It is an instinctive thing to rush immediately to the aid of someone you love, especially in familiar surroundings of your home town.
When Angie was snatched, presumably the line was still open and as she'd initiated the call, even if Rob had hung up and tried to call the cops, he couldn't have got through unless the phone in the paybooth had been hung up and freed the line.
I think the poor kid likely tried to dash to his girlfriend's rescue and a panicky young driver could feasibly wreck a gearbox.
Just an awful thing to happen to Angie, Rob and their families.
A frustrating mystery. Thanks for the video.
Very interesting case, I can only imagine what this poor woman may have went through, being taken by some deranged creep. Watching an episode of Unsolved Mysteries as a little girl gave me a fear of being kidnapped, which has stuck with me my entire life. 😳 Thank you for another great analysis, Dr. Grande!! I love your videos and thank you for all of the hard work you put in to post new ones every day, it definitely doesn't go unnoticed.❤️
Thanks for the upload, Dr. Grande! I just got my 2023 flu shot. Bought some backup food just in case: Lebanese lamb and hummus, beef curry, chicken vindaloo, and Dr. Pepper plus Pepsi.
Well...I sure feel safer now that all the phone booths are gone. When you think about it, that would be a perfect place for someone to find his next victim. But, now that many young women are walking around with their heads down looking at their phones, today's generation might prove to make for an even easier target.
Dr. Grande, we’re all waiting for your analysis of the “boy in the box” trial with Tim Ferriter. I have a feeling it involves the parents’ fanatic religious beliefs, which allowed them to channel their sadistic impulses. Tim was so convinced of his innocence he even turn down a plea deal. Looking forward to your thoughts.
Haven't heard about their religious beliefs could you elucidate?
Oh my gosh, what a very strange case. Thanks for covering this, Dr. Grande. Have yourself a great weekend!
It makes sense he would drop the phone and suddenly go there. He probably believed, and was probably right about it, that he could respond much more rapidly. By the time he got through to a dispatcher and explained things, he could already be there. And who knows how long it would have taken police to respond?
When I was in high school I was strong enough to lift the back of my girlfriends car and move the rear of the car out of its parking space as a joke. And this guy played football. He had good reason to think he could win in a physical confrontation.
Ah, the old "pick up the rear and pivot" prank. Did that many times, including with my PE teachers Geo Metro in 8th grade.
@@WalterDiamondLOL you did that too? I was lifting an equally light car, a Nissan Pulsar.
My first car was a cherry red 1987 Nissan Pulsar. I loved that car. Still miss her.
We had a case locally where a man was saved from a kidnapping and a murder charge becaue the telephone company saved his payphone call information from a half a century ago!!!😢
I feel all of the reasons that Angela didn’t take the precautions is because she was so close to home and where her boyfriends parents house was. She probably felt safe and though nothing would happen to her so close to home.
probably had that “i’m right down the street, what’s the worst that could happen?”mindset. poor girl
I always wondered why she just didn't go to his house. She was right there. I'm also glad Rob didn't carry up to him or her might have been killed too. God knows what He's doing.
This is such a bizarre case, I’m glad you’re talking about this Dr. Grande, keep up the great work. Take care!
This is one of the scariest stories that the series *_Unsolved Mysteries_* ever covered. I think this is a clear case of a serial killer that either was caught and hasn't admitted to this, or something along those lines.
I was pregnant with my son in 1991. Very sad. I hope that Angie is found and that she gets the justice she and her family deserve. 🙏🙏🙏🌈🕊️🕊️🕊️
I remembered this case from day 1. I think she was taken from that phone booth. Its so sad that she has never been found. RIP Angie🕊🕊🕊
Yea I remember this case on “Unsolved Mysteries”, always wondered what happened to her, I don’t think the police will ever solve this one 😢
There's always that hope. I sure hope they find her (alive) or atleast her body and are able to get her body back for a proper burial.
I watched this on Trace Evidence Podcast. Glad you are talking about it.
It's was very brave of him trying to save her from the creep
I remember this Heartbreaking, and Terrifying Case! And I agree with the comment, it's Haunting!🥀🥀🥀🙏🙏🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️
No one puts me to sleep faster than Doc, but I always finish the videos eventually, thanks
No Justice, after all these years! How Heartbreaking to live with that?🥀🥀🥀🕊️🕊️🕊️🙏🙏🙏
I'm loving the title!
I'm also seeing some comments inquiring as to if a phone booth is a booth with a phone in it 😄
Showing our age here
😄😄😄
A phone booth. Is that a booth with a phone in it? Asking for my buddy.
Yes
😄
LOL-- Tell your "buddy" yes.
Imagine thinking that an isolated phone booth is an appropriate place to just have a full conversation when you could go to a house that is more secure to have your long phone conversations. She should have just gone home and had a bath.
I find that implausible, why phone from a call box if she was only minutes away. Why continue on a call in the dark totally isolated if she didn't have to. Something doesn't add up
The only reason I can think is if Rob was not being truthful about the contents of the call. A possible scenario, they were fighting, maybe he was pressuring her to have an abortion or give the baby up for adoption. Perhaps that is why she didn't go home after dropping him off, but went riding around with her friend to vent. Afterwards she didn't want to talk to him in person, but still wanted to continue the argument, so she called him from the payphone. (I'm assuming she did not have phone service at her residence, since it would have made no sense to use a pay phone if she did.) Not that I'm sold on Rob's innocence (or guilt)--to many unknowns, but I can picture a plausible scenario where she decided to talk to him from a payphone, rather than in person.
@@thelogicaldanger I think that actually is a reasonable thought. Right I don't know if he is guilty or not. The thing I was more focused on, was why she would go to a payphone in a dark secluded place. But you could possibly be right.
@@EasrterRising1fanMaybe she didn't want to go to his house if he lived with his parents and thought they could speak more "privately" from the pay phone?
@@EasrterRising1fanit wasn’t dark and secluded. It was one block off the main square. And the pay phones were on the opposite side of the parking lot near the road not near the building. She was out in the open. The kidnappers were from out of town. No doubt.
You are so insightful!! I Love your assessment!!! Great job as Always!!
Safety first. Don’t put yourself at risk. Look hard and look twice
Don’t be a victim.
Solid advice ✊
Easier said than done.. trust me I know from experience. Yes you can do everything "right" but it still can happen
I’m early early. 13mins you’ve posted and I’ve opened to RUclips to listen to what I’ve missed from you and this gift is here 😅 awaiting for my ears to devour this story.
@7:23 Gave me a jump scare. Are there no images of this poor woman where it appears he’s not missing her eyeballs??!!
I live and breathe for that sweet sweet analysis
Hi Dr. Grande! Another great video! Can you do Sante Kimes too? That is one that always haunted me.
Even back in the day when I was a prolific phone booth occupant, I would never stand in a phone booth in an isolated parking lot late at night. It seems curious to me that Angela was too tired to go to Rob's parent's house and keep him company while he babysat but wasn't too tired to stand in a phone booth and chat him up. Very suspicious to me.
As I understand it, there wasn’t a phone at her house and you know how the young and in love can get to talking !
She could have driven to his house rather than talk on call box, suspicious to me. Did anyone ever check the call records of Rob and the call box? Rob had a motive if he did not want the baby.
I don’t think it’s all that strange. She was tired and wanted to call it a day. Chatting on the phone is less of an undertaking than physically visiting someone. The baby isn’t a strong motive to kill her imo, he could have just ended the relationship. Of course he could have worried about custody payments but it seems an unlikely reason for a murder.
@wilhelmhagberg4897 I lived in the time where their were only call boxes, this scenario isn't plausible, you're not talking on a mobile phone here. No one's going to a call box in the middle of the night just to have a yak with a person literally down the road 🙄
They were young and hadn’t been together long - it’s likely she didn’t want to hang around with his younger brother, maybe the kid was obnoxious or high energy.
Also she is only calling to let him know she’s headed home, no texting or pagers and seems like they didn’t have a phone at the trailer. She stayed on the phone because she loves talking to him. Then because she was worried about the man hanging about.
I’m pregnant with twins and I’m pretty sure they know your voice better than mine! 😂❤
I have a 3 month old and I think I have the same problem lol
Cute comments 🤗 Congratulations!
you are creating extra cortisol for them going through these cases....give it a rest !
They're going to think everybody commits murder/disappears 😮😮😮
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I believe this story and wish that this case would be solved. Poor Angie and baby.
Excellent timing ! Much thanks Dr G ❤
I have your channel notifications on, but how the FRIGGGGGGGGG did I miss this 3 days ago? One of my favorite Unsolved Mysteries episodes and cases ever.
The case of Julian Sands?
Perhaps?
A true scary story for the kids of today. And not just the abduction part haha
I used to dislike the enclosed phone booths for just this reason, I felt like if someone were to try something I would be trapped and it would be really difficult to hold the door closed while trying to call 911 on the payphone.
Thank you for your analysis Dr Grande. I agree with your analysis and I'm glad you think it's more likely to have been someone other than Angie's fiance, Rob, and presumably her unborn baby's father. Very sad story.
Perfect timing, can relax a little before bed!
Hi Dr. Grande. Will you consider the new arrest in Tupac Shakur's murder? Duane "Keefe D" Davis. He's been self-snitching for years. Anyway, thanks for all you do. I'm always tuned in...
I'm pretty sure that that case is on his agenda.
I would Love to hear Dr. Grande's analysis of Tupac's murder 🙏
Thank You for your Analysis, as always, and so much information about this that I never knew.
Dr. Grande, I request you do a video on Boyd and Stephanie Householder of the former Circle of Hope Girl's Ranch in Cedar County, MO. Maybe even one for the Agape boys boarding school closure as well in the same county. I feel these are prime material for your type of discussion. Thank you.
Dr. Grande I respect your opinions and so was so glad to see that you are covering this case to shed light. This is one of the most haunting stories I have ever heard of over the years- I pray Angie's family gets the answers they deserve one day.
Yes king go off
Damn!
@@farmcat3198 hug 🫂
This case has stuck with me for a long time because of how disturbing the events are and also that sketch of the kidnapper it terrified me for some reason, although worth mentioning that the sketch does not show him with a beard like she had described to her boyfriend
Thanks for the upload Dr. Grande ❤
You are absolutely right that’s what I was thinking, I wonder what conditions it was really in
Dr Grande would be the best guy to tell you you have 20 seconds to comply
Angie must have been quite concerned to have given such a full description of the man, his clothes and his flashlight to Rob?
No
Rob made the scary man stories up.
@@j.khuster2024 sorry 100 witnesses who saw the man all lied then
His flashlight?
@@j.khuster2024how is it that no one finds this story suspicious.
I know this case and don't think anything about the boyfriends account is fantastical. He lived very close to the phone booth, ran out the door, drove towarrd it and passed them along the way. Only the part about hearing her yell he name is unlikely, but possible. She really should have just left right away but she didn't .
As a girl who sometimes walks past scary people at night being on the phone with my husband makes me feel safer because I feel like I have an ally if something were to go wrong. I would not want to give that up to walk alone past the man in the dark back to my car.
I don't know where Dr. Grande is from, but trucks at that time, with those decals, were a dime a dozen where I lived in the West. It sounds like they were common in this rural area as well, as the list was over 1600 vehicles. As for why Angie kept talking on the phone? That's what young people do, particularly women. They were in love, and probably meant to keep hanging up and started on a new topic. Angie didn't imagine she could be in any serious danger, so it didn't occur to her to get in her vehicle and go somewhere safer. This was a small town where she probably either knew or knew of most of the bad actors in a 20 mile radius. She just didn't recognize what to do in time.
2.3million f150s sold last year. They were just as popular back then
Wild times it was before cell phones. Imagine the countless other crimes & situations we never knew about because he didn't have that phone in our possession.
Always interesting
Thank you
Peace
This story is more believable than a near-catastrophic, 80 MPH chase in downtown New York.
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Really sad case. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us, Dr. Grande.❤
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If the perp went out cruising with the intention of finding the victim, then he may have traveled some distance from his home in order to avoid being recognized. If he was local, they probably interviewed him. How many trucks could there have been with that design on the rear window?
Very informative especially the shocking mistaken identity 😢
It sounds believable. People distrust victims, not perpetrators. The fact that people treat him like that would make me believe him already.
I think you’re on the money with this one Dr. Grande. Rob likely was telling the truth but probably embellished it somewhat to portray himself as more heroic.
Rob had zero to do with her disappearance. Additionally, Angela did not have a home phone. Because Rob still lived at home and was in school, it's possible he wasn't allowed to have guests at the house after a certain hour. He was at home watching his younger brother at the time of Angela's call.
That store is called Food Barn, may be that man was a delivery driver, familiar to that outlet? He was described as dirty, and drove a pickup truck...green is kind of "grocer friendly" color in my opinion! Hopefully, the Police checked out all the work crew - because the fish decoupage also points to food!
No stores had cameras? What about the phone call, did the phone company have the recording?
Muchas gracias.
Every other woman in ours town is named Angie, Angela, Angelica, Angelina, Angelique, Angel,
I thought she dropped off her friend, wouldn't that have been the last person to see her alive?
the pronunciation of nevada is very missouri
This is why I don't stand outside at pay phones at 12 midnight. I don't want to be confused with someone else. In the dark
Oh and that there literally no more pay phones
I think Rob was telling the truth. This is just bizarre
I remember seeing this on unsolved mysteries...They weren't sure but it seemed suspicious with things he did and didn't do
@@amandareynolds2781no it didn’t. And Rob was fully cleared. Eye witnesses saw the man and the truck.
He did it. Idgaf if they cleared him 1000000000000 times.
He just got lucky with circumstances and stupid lazy detectives. There never was a creepy guy or green ford truck. Eyewitness can mistaken what they see especially at night.
That's it. Mystery solved.
Psychopath can pass lie detector no problem. So once again IdgaF how much he got cleared...
He. Did. It.
End of story.
@@j.khuster2024 we know who did it now and it wasn’t Rob. Do some research
I now go back to the beginning to witness the fine, expressive eye movements! They say volumes! 👀
Did the police trace the call the perp may have called?
Thank you for finally doing this case
A very strange case (but the fact that others verified the pickup truck and the "mysterious man" suggests that Rob was indeed telling the truth). I'd wish you a good weekend, Dr. Grande, but I know you probably have more videos to post (you never seem to take a break). Thanks, as always!
I also think he was being truthful. But I wonder how nobody came forward about the "fish car". Everybody would remember such a thing.
Tune in next week to Dr. Grande, when you'll hear Dr. Grande say:
"Please put any opinions and thoughts in the comment section. They always generate an interesting dialogue." 🙂
No one has ever commented on seeing a vehicle like this? No repair shops?
He should have called the police
Robs story sounds believable to me. It almost happened to me too but I was able to get away. I grew up in NY and now live in the Midwest. I’m still shocked to see how trusting people are here. Maybe that’s how Angela thought. Such a tragic case 😢
"I see a suspicious old pick up truck. Let me, a pregnant teen, keep standing out here at midnight by myself. I'm sure it's safe" 🙄😳👹
Plus "my babysitting boyfriend told me to talk to him."
No kidnapper would place a grown woman unrestrained beside him on the passenger seat... where she was fighting him, and also managed to spot her boyfriend's car approaching, and audibly screamed his name through the open driver's window.
33 years without Their daughter
No one can feel and imagine the Pain and Sorrows and what Angela's Mom Dad have been through 3 decades
Somewhere Someplace I still think that Rob should have been with her, never have left her alone for a single second
Knowing she's pregnant and they are getting engaged
The biggest shock is working pay phones in 1991
No it’s not. Payphones were still common until well into the 2000s. They only died when cell phones became commonplace which wasn’t until post 2003.
7:24 SHE’S 30??!?! Yeesh, poor girl. Her eyes are empty holes 🕳️ 🕳️
I’m so glad someone else saw that
It’s not unbelievable that this was a perpetrator strolling for a victim. It almost happened to me but I was able to get away. I grew up in NY and now live in the Midwest. I’m surprised that the people here are so much more trusting of strangers. Angela was probably that way too. Such a tragedy 😢
She was at a pay phone - how much did that call cost? 🤔 I don't believe it
Did they check that, how was the call paid for,
Excellent video, Doctor Grande !!! --- I'm wondering: ..What if the scruffy overalls/old truck guy was misleadingly disguised, and actually was part of a sophisticated human trafficking group?
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