The fact that she has low stamina yet has a Pawmot a pokemon that evolves by walking alot says so much about her character. She isn't a prodigy, she just loves pokemon and pokemon Battling and through that love she became a champion teir trainer. Contrast that with a pawmi who has low stamina yet loves to walk and even though it isn't good at it still evolved into Pawmot. I just find that fascinating.
I really like when Rivals have their own "ace" that's not just the starter. Green, Silver, (maybe Wally), Hau, Hop and now Nemona. It just gives much more personality (plus it's easier to put them into Masters)
I actually find it cute you'd look at how she acts and think "man this girl can not stay still for more than 5 sec must be hell keeping up with her" then you actually see her in motion and she's exhausted on the floor after running for like 5 sec's. Another part of her character I find cute is how she acts when she's at someone elses house arven assumed that because she's rich she's like a princess with nemona denying the allegations yet when she's at your house she's the politest out of the three and even the way she sits makes her look like a princess
Nemona is basically the player who did everything in game and has nothing else to do but new game plus but this time gets someone who can be an actual challenge to her. Plus it's lonely at the top and holding back to battle anyone can drop the fun of battling. Sure she's kinda clingy but I'm sure most of us would love to have a rival that can actually keep up with us Especially when wavy hair is champion and she sucks
i love how people complain about there being too much dialogue in pokemon then turn around and completely misinterpret well developed characters bc they refuse to read. nemona deserves better
@@magicmoonmonke i mean if you just like yandere nemona thats one thing, im talking about the people who just brush her off as “weird and creepy” because they didnt actually ready any of the games text
THANK YOU! I genuinely have not been a fan of the "Yandere Nemona" meme, especially with it causing people to not understand Nemona's character. Yes some of her dialogue reads a little possessive, but that’s just from her wording and phrasing. A thing I really like about Nemona is that throughout most of the game's main story, Nemona isn't even our rival... yet. She was acting as a mentor to us, she wants to us to help us grow. Not only she chose to start her journey over again, but she also chose the starter WEAK to ours and even builds a whole new team because she sees potential in us. She ONLY asks us to be her rival AFTER we defeated Geeta, when we're on EQUAL footing to her. This is somewhat reflected in every other battle we had with Nemona, in her intro animation the camera's always looking up at her, but in her Champion battle the camera is on her eye level to symbolize how you're finally at her level. (in her eyes) Why did Nemona chose us to be her rival? Not only because we're someone new (in-universe) and someone she sees potential in. But we aren’t someone who views her as “Nemona the Battle Wiz”, but as “My friend Nemona”. She’s finally happy to have a friend who loves Pokemon battling as much as her and is willing to go at it with her and I love the way she almost cry’s tears of excitement after you beat her going all out, she was genuinely very proud.
Jesus Christ what's with the three point essay? Why do y'all care? She isn't real, and the Death of the Author is. Let people have fun, for Christ's fucking sake.
@@orsonzedd So, because she isn't real, people can't analyze her or feel emotions from fiction? Geez, throw out the entire field of literary and media analysis then!
I will not stand for the Nemona slander. She is not a Yandere she's just a lonely girl who wants friends who can keep up with her and ends up with the best friend group in Pokemon
@@darrellholland-ry2tg typically a crazy girl who usually obsesses or stalks you to the point that boarders beyond worship and in some cases will kill others whom get in the way of that or are extremely likely to get so possessive that if they cannot have you they will and could kill you if it meant keeping you forever. Granted there are different degrees of the troupe itself some of which are humerous and others that are well creepy or just plain grotesque depending on the material. Nemona isn't like that even though there are lines that one can assume she is. I just got very lonely vibes as a result of her upbringing and her well champion status. She is also awkward in that way because she gets over excited that there is someone who can keep up and surpass her despite her status which is wanted she wanted most. Thats what I find most endearing about her.
Nemona is absolutely the perfect definition of the entire message of the Pokémon franchise. It's not about winning or losing. It's about all the connections and friends you make and what you gain from those experiences.
This is the mumbo jumbo the game tries to forcefeed you while also literaly stopping the story or breaking the rules of pokémon itself just so YOU can always win
@Thedawg2604 That's cause it's supposed to build on HER character, not your own. The reason she's so excited for you to beat her by the end of the story compared to any other moment is cause she can be herself and unleash her full power against someone that can match her.
@@doubl2480 Nemona would totally heal a terrifying foe that could destroy the world if she thought she could get a good fight out of it Actually she and Hareta from Diamond and Pearl Adventure would get along fantastically.
@@Yoshizuyuner Half the discourse about the game's story comes from people not understanding the simplest plot points. People nowadays have no attention span and it shows.
I love Nemona, definitely my favorite rival maybe ever. I love that she's friendly, but also competitive. Unlike Blue and Silver, she's not an asshole but is still super competent. And unlike most other friendly rivals (barring Barry), she doesn't feel like a total pushover.
Headcannons isn't necessarily a bad thing but when it gets out of control - it may lead to a MASSIVE misunderstanding. Nemona is one of my favourite characters in the series and I love that idea that she's so powerful nobody but main character usually wants to battle with her. She deserves a hug.
I enjoy Nemona. She full of enthusiasm, and is ready for any challenge. She can come off as pushy, but she just loves battling. Whether it’s someone who she can call a friend, or meeting someone new. She’s a hard worker, and supportive of friends. Not everyone can get a read on her, so they often see her the wrong way. Even if she loses, she just wants to have fun.
Probably my favorite Friendly Rival. Who's more Rival than Friend similar to Cheren from Black/White only I prefer her personality more, plus the fact she downgrades to a Starting Pokémon to help you become the Best Trainer she can fight. Still like the Yandere like tendencies she has. 😁
a couple of my friends thought nemona was supposed to be autistic because the only character trait they could discern from her in the game was an extreme fixation on pokemon battling
Nemona is a girl with undaignosed AuDHD whos treated like an add on by her own family and is excited that there's someone that, for once, isn't offput by her special interest of Pokemon batting.
Nemona wants to battle literally everyone she comes across. She just is hyped to battle the player because the player looks like someone she could one day go all out on. And she eventually does.
I always liked Nemona. Sure she's combat addict, but it comes off as "Oh someone said yes?! I might finally have someone that can challenge me!" than anything else. She's very enthusiastic about everything she does. She comes off as a rival too, not the mean kind, but the one that wants to hoist you up to their level. It's just S&V need a bit more time in the oven lol
as someone who was really good at pokemon battles growing up to the point nobody wanted to battle me even my uncle who was in his 20's when i was like 15. he said that i would just beta him up and i honestly havent gotten a good chance to really battle anyone in a while since everyone didnt wanna battle me and doing the online battles arent nearly as fun as doing it against someone i know i like super relate to nemona. not to mention ive got fucked up joints so often am wearing a wrist brace so nice to see a character thats just like me fr
Nemona’s a fun rival. She’s the perfect blend of tough and friend rivals of the past. Funny story, in my Violet playthrough, by complete coincidence, half of our teams ended up as the exact same. We both had a starter (Meowscarada is the one I see her use in media, so it counts), a Goodra, and a Pawmot. Made my encounters with her feel that extra bit special as we were truly trying to outdo each other every time
I love Nemona's charecter so much! I find her energetic personality and constant requests for a Pokemon battle to be very cute. I never once looked at Nemona as a so-called Yandere but rather she's just lonely and wants someone to truly challenge her so she can be herself! 💚🍊
Over the course of the game, Nemona came to feel like a real friend to me; by the end of the story, I felt like she'd always been there, from '98 to now.
One of my favorite things about Nemona is how people react to her. I enjoy her character but it's hard to deny that she isn't a bit overbearing (even with the context of why). One of my favorite little details is at the end of her and the player's final battle, Nemona's geared up for round 2 and everyone just has an exasperated look on their face. It seems like Nemona lacks connection not only because people see her as untouchable but also because people see her as too much to handle personality wise. And then I come in share in her interests and like how much she likes it. Of course she would be over the moon. I fully admit, that one yes or no section and some of the dialogue painting it as she's following you instead of running into you like other rivals would does influence the meme a bit. I'm not gonna be someone who says that that it just popped out of the blue. I will say though, even with her simplicity, Nemona is one of my favorite rivals and one of my favorite things that came out of SV.
As her #1 fan THANK U FOR SAYING THIS, shes so mischaracterized by the fandom but they dont even try see her character in depth at all! Shes much more than a battle lover or whatever, shes not a stalker or anything, she just wanted a friend to battle and give her best against!!! I hope more people see this video and maube understand her a bit more
Someone needs to make an animation of nemona fighting someone who has brought their pokemon from the other games to fight her and she is fighting straight up gods with level 60 ducks
Everyone that thinks that she just wants to constantly battle and NOTHING ELSE, you missed everything else about her that makes her great. I'm so glad you made this Gator.
Canon Goku: "I want to fight to have fun with everyone, and also be able to protect my friends when it comes down to it!" Fanon Goku: "Hey Zeno, you better destroy these universes if they don't give me a good enough fight 👹👹👹" Seem familiar? Fans _hate_ Flanderization, but through frequent hyperbolization of a character's dialogue and actions through jokes, memes, etc, the Flanderization of a character within a fandom is inevitable. The only way to avoid being caught up in fandom Flanderization and taking it as canon is to check up on the _actual_ canon every once in a while, and take everything at face value without bias from fandom-only content.
Beyond the memes, she is great. Sometimes people riff on the rivals. Although it seems extreme in this case since of the three on-going stories, SV only has one consistent battling rival. Last game had three others enter the overall competition. Here, we are back to one who also is already at champion level.
My first impression of Nemona was as something of a Senpai character, a helpful upper-class student willing to teach the newbie player (in-universe) the intricacies of Pokémon battling. While I get a kick out of the jokes about Nemona's potential stalking, Nemona-senpai will always be how I see this high ranking friendly rival (better than Hop and Calem, and slightly above Hau, with Hugh's cool factor being the only thing keeping him above her).
Honestly, Nemona is a refreshing character. There's nice story development in these SV characters and her enjoyment of battles is something I can relate to 😅 I didn't really have anyone growing up who liked pokemon, and even now my excitement for pokemon is something I don't tend to share anymore
absolutely love the cool big sis mentor/rival dynamic 😭 hope we learn more about her parents/sister someday. SV has so many amazing characters, idk how next gen will top it
I’ve always thought of Nemona being neurodivergent personally. She has such a high passion for Pokémon battling and knows so much that in my perspective, I’ve always interpreted it as being her special interest. And of course, similarly to myself, she wants to share her special interest with others. She wants to be able to show her one good friend how amazing something is, but sometimes comes across as obsessed or pushy, hence why people may be scared or deterred by her being around. Also, in complete honesty, she’s definitely my favourite rival.
Nemona might honestly be the best rival in the series imo. She just wants a friend. Someone who can keep up with her. And as the new person who doesnt know her as rhe champion ranked trainer she is. She can be more open and friendly with you. Shes a great character.
Nemona deserve more love. While Ardyn is the best rival character development side and Penny was the most interesting (even though she's not great of a character in my opinion) Nemona deserves better. She doesn't need a tragic backstory, she's a lonely top trainer trying to find someone who enjoys battling but also someone to befriend. As a result I relate to her and I don't understand why everytime a female character is happy they're "too childish" or "too stalkerish". (Though to be fair I'm getting tired of the "Dorky" trope in media.) Nemona is not a dork. She's herself and basically a kind person who excitable but not too excitable. She reminds me of Papyrus from Undertale, both don't have the deepest backstories they are designed to be your friends. No whether or not you wish Nemona had deep backstory is up to your opinion. But overall Nemona deserves a chance and more love. She is the friendly rival trope done right and while I wish her battles were hard, at least she was more fun than Hau or Hop. (Sorry Hop)
@@IAmBored347 Nemona does have a pretty sad backstory insofar as her parents ignore her in favor of her older sister, since her sister is set to succeed them in business.
When are the earliest things that I remember for "Nemona being a yandere" replacing hers with Monika's from ddlc (and slightly changing them to fit Pokemon, of course) and then somebody made art of Nemona over act 3 Monika
Nemona is just a much more enthusiastic arven or penny in the sense she can be a bit awkward making friends. She seems clingy but that's only because we're the first friend she made where she can just be herself it's not that she's unpopular she just has to hide who she really is to avoid scaring people off (we even see an example of this post game). But with us because we're such talented trainers she doesn't need to hold back anything both her personality and her skills
I remember skimming through one playthrough of Violet where the guy made an assumption about the Fairy Team Star Admin, then mashed through the following cutscene that showed how the opposite was true. I feel like things like that being commonplace leads to a lot of misunderstandings of what some characters are actually like. That, and some people not wanting to analyze characters they find annoying. Looking at you, Hop.
@@BJGvideos He got popular through other things, not really Pokemon. He just seems to have convinced himself that because he doesn't care about Pokemon plots, that it's okay to spread misinformation or make fun of people that do, and it's routinely frustrating that he does so.
@@darkiusmc979 Totally. And I hate that he's so influential to Jaiden though she doesn't seem to carry the same disregard (she kinda did in Platinum but she seems to have gotten past that)
I actually do understand that she's not a yandere like some people believe, I just like to joke about her being a yandere because I think it's fun, but I do like her as a character.
We've only had one yandere in this series and it's Volo. And he's yandere for Arceus, not us. I admit I thought Nemona was kinda creepy at first but as i got to know her and understand why she's like that, i wanted her to be my friend for real. I'm not sure what her gender has to do with that though. People hate upbeat rivals. The ones you compare her to, Barry and Hau, are wildly hated. And Cynthia is one of the most loved characters in the franchise. An issue i think is that when everyone is talking about their families in the crater, the text goes REALLY fast. I was having trouble keeping up with it and I'm a very fast reader. And combine that with how people (stupidly) skip the story in these games (my siblings in Arceus you are playing a JRPG) it leads to a lack of anyone reading fast text. I love how in the epilogue she was able to train a largely brand new team up to championship level in a matter of DAYS. In the midst of what's effectively a zombie outbreak.
@@BJGvideos I feel so validated with that JRPG comment. Also wait, Barry's widely hated? I knew Hau was divisive, but Barry? Did something change in the fandom or was I missing something?
@@matts5747 Barry is generally seen as annoying and abrasive. I think people conflate him with his anime version. At least other versions of him like Pearl and Jun have different names, but Barry is seen as the same character. It's totally a JRPG and people need to accept that! They're playing a game in a very story-heavy genre and for some reason they still think of the story as an excuse plot like it was in gen one. Which itself was only a limitation of the Game Boy.
@@BJGvideos Those complaints towards Barry are understandable even if I don't agree with them. Still, to me growing up, it felt like Barry was one of the more popular rivals. Did BDSP have anything to do with it? On a more positive note, Pearl is a decently interesting adaption of Barry. While he's my least favorite of the Sinnoh Dex holders, he's still great. One thing I do like about him is being the son of Palmer is played into his battle process. I also really like his friendship with Dia and how that develops I'd honestly like to see him interact with his game counterpart
@@matts5747 I don't know. I think the fandom turned against him before BDSP. I know he was liked at first. But again I really think it was the anime that did it. We need manga characters in Masters! They had anime characters so why not? Yellow has been probably the most hotly requested character that we haven't gotten yet (alongside Miror B because they're allergic to side games too). I also wanna see deeper cuts like Mitsumi (my most wanted character) and Hazel
@@BJGvideos Oh right! It could happen in Masters! I know apparently there are some Pokémon Adventures references in Masters but having one of the characters would be interesting. Although I have to wonder if for the Dex holders, an issue might be distinguishing them from their game counterparts. Someone like Ruby or Violet wouldn't have this problem, but by comparison I'd imagine Black, Casey, or even Dia might have issues. Ah someone else who read Diamond and Pearl Adventure! Also if I have the right character on Bulbapedia, your referring to the character from Magical Pokémon Journey right? Never heard of that series until now.
Okay, so a hot take here, I think Nemona looks way better in Violet. It's the Uva Academy uniform that does it, really adds to her in ways the Naranja Academy uniform just doesn't.
1:52 idk man people LOVE cynthia including me. I've never seen anything thing she's crazy just that their "Scared" of her cause she beat their asses when they where kids, She's probably a lot of peoples #1 champion.
I relate to Nemona a lot, not necessarily with the "being very good at x thing" stuff, but more her trait of really enjoying her hobby, to the point where outsiders may see her as obsessive or intimidating. I can totally understand how it must feel for Nemona to go years being something of an outcast, only to finally meet someone (the player character) who matches her passion and, to a lesser importance, her skill. When you meet someone like that, you do sometimes find yourself wanting to spend lots of time with them, investing your feelings and coming on stronf. I see a lot of myself in Nemona, and she gives me some neurodivergent vibes that make me feel really seen myself. When people do the whole "yandere Nemona" thing, it unnerves me, because I feel similar to her in some ways! I suppose, in a way, it's kind of my own fault for taking it a touch personally, because I relate to her thanks to a headcanon I attributed to her myself. I suppose that's kind of what Kieran did with Ogrepon 😅 In any case, thank you for making this, I do appreciate it!
Ok but zoning in a single trait of a character and dialing up to eleven for a cheap laugh that ends up becoming a meme and deconstructs their personality into a joke? Not the first time it happened
This is a conversation that's pretty much present in every fandom. The meme template of the "serious character canon vs. lovable scrungo fanon" exist for a reason. At the end of the day it's a topic that is best leave it as is because no matter how much you try to explain a character to someone they will most likely either: A) They already know, they are just having a little fun just noting and amplifying traits of a character to comedic proportions just for fun (like I usually do) or; B) They legit don't really care about YOUR interpretation and they will cover their ears just so that their confort character remains being gay or something.
A good way to summarize Nemona is indeed to think of her as a female Goku. She lives for the thrill of Pokemon battles, and she would rather beat you at your best.
I've always seen her in the Goku mold, but in the good way. She's strong because she enjoys battling and just wants another person who gets that. And the player character does get that, you buy the game to catch cool Pokemon, battle, trade, and explore. She's the new game plus veteran getting the noob up to speed and then enjoying the game again when you hit her level.
There are 3 type of Pokemon fans: - Those who see things as they are - Those who see beyond things as they are and make them look more profound or funny - Those who use the funny to create and validate head canons, creating a different interpretation of things.
Nemona is kind of like Goku, always looking for the next challenge in order to get better, but this is not the only defining characteristic of the character, just the most prominent one
She’s similar to Goku if he was a girl, and a Pokémon trainer instead of a martial artist, it’s great, and I love Nemona she’s an incredible character!
I love Nemona so much. She is such a great rival with an energetic, comedic, and friendly personality. I never saw her as a yandere at all but as a person who wants to be friends with those who love Pokémon battling as much as her. Pokémon Horizons has really done her justice, and I hope we see her appear in the Rayquaza Rising arc.😍🧡🤍🖤💚
Thankyou I like yandere Nemona but some people who don't read Doesn't understand her character. I was 13 and I still understand Nemona as a character. Plus the people who say Nemona is weird is the same people who wants pokemon to have a better story. Even though they don't even read and just skip though it.
You know, it's almost like a majority of Pokémon can't understand character depth and stop at their first impression of these characters, as if it's all there is to them. Just look at the way they treat characters like Kieran, Zinnia and, well Nemona. But yeah, Pokémon should really stop forcing us to say yes all the time. It's true with Nemona, but especially with Kieran, with the infamous scene where they force you to lie to him, which I still hate being forced to do, even if his character is incredible.
Nemona personally is just a senpai who wants her kohai to succeed and his excited when they do get stronger. She’s up there with Hop as one of the really good post gen 5 rivals due to her personality. Like she’s a friend but she fights you because she wants you to be on her level as you are the first person who she doesn’t need to hold back on in fear of scaring away another challenger. I’ve always saw her running into you constantly as her just wanting to make sure you’re doing fine and you unable to deny her battle after you fight the elite 4 as her probably getting too excited because she finally has a friend who is on her level. She isn’t a yandere, she’s just genki and supportive, and I think that’s what makes her a good rival
Nemona is definitely in my top 3 favorite characters of gen 9,i love her passion for battles. Off topic is what are your thoughts on the pokemon sun and moon train on trailers ?
The fact that she has low stamina yet has a Pawmot a pokemon that evolves by walking alot says so much about her character. She isn't a prodigy, she just loves pokemon and pokemon Battling and through that love she became a champion teir trainer.
Contrast that with a pawmi who has low stamina yet loves to walk and even though it isn't good at it still evolved into Pawmot.
I just find that fascinating.
I really like when Rivals have their own "ace" that's not just the starter. Green, Silver, (maybe Wally), Hau, Hop and now Nemona. It just gives much more personality (plus it's easier to put them into Masters)
I actually find it cute you'd look at how she acts and think "man this girl can not stay still for more than 5 sec must be hell keeping up with her" then you actually see her in motion and she's exhausted on the floor after running for like 5 sec's. Another part of her character I find cute is how she acts when she's at someone elses house arven assumed that because she's rich she's like a princess with nemona denying the allegations yet when she's at your house she's the politest out of the three and even the way she sits makes her look like a princess
Pokemon fans misscharacterizing? What a shock
nemona misunderstanders when carmine (and probably kieran) misunderstanders walk in
Well what do you expect from the same fanbase that treats Pokemon Sword and Shield like they're the next Sonic 06?
@@meta527IIppl treat SV like that actually
Those are fake fans
Don't even get me started on how characters like Rose, Hop, and Irida flew completely over their heads
@DanielPereira-ey9nt tbh i kind of get it with rose because his character was axed by the insane crush the devs had to go through
Nemona is basically the player who did everything in game and has nothing else to do but new game plus but this time gets someone who can be an actual challenge to her.
Plus it's lonely at the top and holding back to battle anyone can drop the fun of battling. Sure she's kinda clingy but I'm sure most of us would love to have a rival that can actually keep up with us
Especially when wavy hair is champion and she sucks
i love how people complain about there being too much dialogue in pokemon then turn around and completely misinterpret well developed characters bc they refuse to read. nemona deserves better
Nah its more like the fan has more fun with her fanon personality than her canon one. Yandere Nemona is it
@@magicmoonmonke i mean if you just like yandere nemona thats one thing, im talking about the people who just brush her off as “weird and creepy” because they didnt actually ready any of the games text
@@quaggotoak reading level 1 most people just because they too lazy to learn how to even read
People want pokemon to be a sandbox game with no story, so they have no patience interacting with the stories, character or even the world.
@@melvv18 Then they need to go play sandbox games and not JRPGs
THANK YOU! I genuinely have not been a fan of the "Yandere Nemona" meme, especially with it causing people to not understand Nemona's character. Yes some of her dialogue reads a little possessive, but that’s just from her wording and phrasing.
A thing I really like about Nemona is that throughout most of the game's main story, Nemona isn't even our rival... yet. She was acting as a mentor to us, she wants to us to help us grow. Not only she chose to start her journey over again, but she also chose the starter WEAK to ours and even builds a whole new team because she sees potential in us. She ONLY asks us to be her rival AFTER we defeated Geeta, when we're on EQUAL footing to her. This is somewhat reflected in every other battle we had with Nemona, in her intro animation the camera's always looking up at her, but in her Champion battle the camera is on her eye level to symbolize how you're finally at her level. (in her eyes)
Why did Nemona chose us to be her rival? Not only because we're someone new (in-universe) and someone she sees potential in. But we aren’t someone who views her as “Nemona the Battle Wiz”, but as “My friend Nemona”. She’s finally happy to have a friend who loves Pokemon battling as much as her and is willing to go at it with her and I love the way she almost cry’s tears of excitement after you beat her going all out, she was genuinely very proud.
Jesus Christ what's with the three point essay? Why do y'all care? She isn't real, and the Death of the Author is. Let people have fun, for Christ's fucking sake.
@@orsonzedd ????????
@@orsonzedd So, because she isn't real, people can't analyze her or feel emotions from fiction? Geez, throw out the entire field of literary and media analysis then!
@@orsonzedd bro its the internet its were people express themselves it has nothing to really do with reality not that hard to see
@@lightyoshiman Can you repeat that in English?
I will not stand for the Nemona slander. She is not a Yandere she's just a lonely girl who wants friends who can keep up with her and ends up with the best friend group in Pokemon
To me, Nemona was far more like a big sister rather than a stalker.
what is a yandere ?
@@darrellholland-ry2tgyou sweet sweet child
Hand me your phone
@@darrellholland-ry2tg a person that would kill for love
@@darrellholland-ry2tg typically a crazy girl who usually obsesses or stalks you to the point that boarders beyond worship and in some cases will kill others whom get in the way of that or are extremely likely to get so possessive that if they cannot have you they will and could kill you if it meant keeping you forever. Granted there are different degrees of the troupe itself some of which are humerous and others that are well creepy or just plain grotesque depending on the material. Nemona isn't like that even though there are lines that one can assume she is. I just got very lonely vibes as a result of her upbringing and her well champion status. She is also awkward in that way because she gets over excited that there is someone who can keep up and surpass her despite her status which is wanted she wanted most. Thats what I find most endearing about her.
Nemona is absolutely the perfect definition of the entire message of the Pokémon franchise. It's not about winning or losing. It's about all the connections and friends you make and what you gain from those experiences.
The real treasure was the friends we made along the way
This is the mumbo jumbo the game tries to forcefeed you while also literaly stopping the story or breaking the rules of pokémon itself just so YOU can always win
@Thedawg2604 That's cause it's supposed to build on HER character, not your own.
The reason she's so excited for you to beat her by the end of the story compared to any other moment is cause she can be herself and unleash her full power against someone that can match her.
Ngl the only thing that matters in Pokemon is winning, it’s about being the best and finding the coolest mons.
@@Libra-_- Bait used to be believable
I like Nenoma. She just wants to be seen and find her place. And her whole rival shtick is just her wanting to be friends without looking desparate.
Nemona is just the Pokemon version of Goku. And Goku isn't a creepy stalker, he's just a bit dumb and likes fighting way too much! So neither is she.
@@doubl2480 Nemona would totally heal a terrifying foe that could destroy the world if she thought she could get a good fight out of it
Actually she and Hareta from Diamond and Pearl Adventure would get along fantastically.
She isn't that hard to fight and pick the weak type starter to yours, not at all at least in game
@@g10viwho70She likely chose the starter weak to yours on purpose because she craves a challenge that much.
@@BJGvideosA fellow DPA manga enjoyer. Hard to find those nowadays.
@@esteban8471 I love DPA so much you have no idea.
Ash and Nemona would be best friends
@@a-bomb777 I wanna see her meet Hareta too. I like in Masters that they hooked her up with Hilda, who's also a battle maniac.
4:39 I knew Nemona was tall but wow she towers over Hilda
She's taller than Arven too!
@@Gronnwolf Yeah I knew she was taller than Arven but I didn't know how they scaled versus other characters haha
Pokémon fans not beating the illiteracy allegations.
maybe that why they keep asking for voicing the characters, its so sad they cant read a word
this "allegations" meme is becoming tiring.
@@Yoshizuyuner Half the discourse about the game's story comes from people not understanding the simplest plot points. People nowadays have no attention span and it shows.
@@Yoshizuyunertbh I think they should've added voice acting in the cutscenes ( not normal dialogue since it ain't that hard to read lol. )
@@Yoshizuyunertbh I think they should've added voice acting in the cutscenes ( not normal dialogue since it ain't that hard to read lol. )
Nemona has been one of the best rivals we've ever gotten, I really wish we could see her and the rest of the gang way more in Scarlet & Violet...
I love Nemona, definitely my favorite rival maybe ever. I love that she's friendly, but also competitive. Unlike Blue and Silver, she's not an asshole but is still super competent. And unlike most other friendly rivals (barring Barry), she doesn't feel like a total pushover.
Headcannons isn't necessarily a bad thing but when it gets out of control - it may lead to a MASSIVE misunderstanding.
Nemona is one of my favourite characters in the series and I love that idea that she's so powerful nobody but main character usually wants to battle with her. She deserves a hug.
headcannons are worst in other places
I enjoy Nemona. She full of enthusiasm, and is ready for any challenge. She can come off as pushy, but she just loves battling. Whether it’s someone who she can call a friend, or meeting someone new. She’s a hard worker, and supportive of friends. Not everyone can get a read on her, so they often see her the wrong way. Even if she loses, she just wants to have fun.
I love how Nemona and Hilda become best friends in Pokemon Masters
best friends? their damn near sisters with ash being the brother if he ever met them
It's very sweet and it makes a lot of sense as mastees Hilda is a battle maniac who practically lives in the Battle Subway
I enjoyed her character so much. She really is a change of pace when it comes to Rivals
I think nemona probably has some kind of crush on the main character, but the fandom just took that idea and made it jump the sharpedo
Finally bruh, why it so hard for people to understand Nemona😭
And geeta
Probably my favorite Friendly Rival. Who's more Rival than Friend similar to Cheren from Black/White only I prefer her personality more, plus the fact she downgrades to a Starting Pokémon to help you become the Best Trainer she can fight. Still like the Yandere like tendencies she has. 😁
I mean I get her actual character but the misinterpretation is funny
YES! THANK YOU!
I am so tired of Nemona being depicted as a creep by fans!
She is super cool! Never a dull moment with her!
Nemona was a great character in Pokémon Scarlet and Violet
a couple of my friends thought nemona was supposed to be autistic because the only character trait they could discern from her in the game was an extreme fixation on pokemon battling
Oh she's totally somewhere on the spectrum
Hyper fixation does not mean autism
Not autism maybe adhd tho
@@UmbraStarWolf stop trying to diagnose characters your not a professional
@@Libra-_- I literally have autism and adhd
Nemona is a girl with undaignosed AuDHD whos treated like an add on by her own family and is excited that there's someone that, for once, isn't offput by her special interest of Pokemon batting.
Nemona wants to battle literally everyone she comes across. She just is hyped to battle the player because the player looks like someone she could one day go all out on. And she eventually does.
I always liked Nemona. Sure she's combat addict, but it comes off as "Oh someone said yes?! I might finally have someone that can challenge me!" than anything else. She's very enthusiastic about everything she does. She comes off as a rival too, not the mean kind, but the one that wants to hoist you up to their level. It's just S&V need a bit more time in the oven lol
as someone who was really good at pokemon battles growing up to the point nobody wanted to battle me even my uncle who was in his 20's when i was like 15. he said that i would just beta him up and i honestly havent gotten a good chance to really battle anyone in a while since everyone didnt wanna battle me and doing the online battles arent nearly as fun as doing it against someone i know i like super relate to nemona. not to mention ive got fucked up joints so often am wearing a wrist brace so nice to see a character thats just like me fr
I hope Nemona makes an appearance in the next arc. She should be able to have fun at the street festival with Liko and co.
Nemona’s a fun rival. She’s the perfect blend of tough and friend rivals of the past. Funny story, in my Violet playthrough, by complete coincidence, half of our teams ended up as the exact same. We both had a starter (Meowscarada is the one I see her use in media, so it counts), a Goodra, and a Pawmot. Made my encounters with her feel that extra bit special as we were truly trying to outdo each other every time
you're right but idc the memes amuse me
I love Nemona's charecter so much! I find her energetic personality and constant requests for a Pokemon battle to be very cute. I never once looked at Nemona as a so-called Yandere but rather she's just lonely and wants someone to truly challenge her so she can be herself! 💚🍊
Over the course of the game, Nemona came to feel like a real friend to me; by the end of the story, I felt like she'd always been there, from '98 to now.
I love Nemona and everything about her.
One of my favorite things about Nemona is how people react to her. I enjoy her character but it's hard to deny that she isn't a bit overbearing (even with the context of why). One of my favorite little details is at the end of her and the player's final battle, Nemona's geared up for round 2 and everyone just has an exasperated look on their face. It seems like Nemona lacks connection not only because people see her as untouchable but also because people see her as too much to handle personality wise. And then I come in share in her interests and like how much she likes it. Of course she would be over the moon. I fully admit, that one yes or no section and some of the dialogue painting it as she's following you instead of running into you like other rivals would does influence the meme a bit. I'm not gonna be someone who says that that it just popped out of the blue. I will say though, even with her simplicity, Nemona is one of my favorite rivals and one of my favorite things that came out of SV.
As her #1 fan THANK U FOR SAYING THIS, shes so mischaracterized by the fandom but they dont even try see her character in depth at all! Shes much more than a battle lover or whatever, shes not a stalker or anything, she just wanted a friend to battle and give her best against!!! I hope more people see this video and maube understand her a bit more
I really enjoyed Nemona in the game she brought sm energy and comedy to the game
Someone needs to make an animation of nemona fighting someone who has brought their pokemon from the other games to fight her and she is fighting straight up gods with level 60 ducks
Everyone that thinks that she just wants to constantly battle and NOTHING ELSE, you missed everything else about her that makes her great. I'm so glad you made this Gator.
Nemona is awesome, one of the best 'friend rivals' there is in the series
Canon Goku: "I want to fight to have fun with everyone, and also be able to protect my friends when it comes down to it!"
Fanon Goku: "Hey Zeno, you better destroy these universes if they don't give me a good enough fight 👹👹👹"
Seem familiar?
Fans _hate_ Flanderization, but through frequent hyperbolization of a character's dialogue and actions through jokes, memes, etc, the Flanderization of a character within a fandom is inevitable. The only way to avoid being caught up in fandom Flanderization and taking it as canon is to check up on the _actual_ canon every once in a while, and take everything at face value without bias from fandom-only content.
she's definitely my favourite rival, with arven and barry as a close second
1:50 yeah, because we didn't make fun of Gary fkn Oak/ Blue for about two decades...
@@ZingoBananaa he also forgets that Steven was characterized as a creepy stalker as well.
@@BJGvideos pretty sure Hop, Hau and Barry have been slapped with the "stop following me around" label a couple of times as well
@@ZingoBananaa Totally. Yeah, I don't think that characterization of her is necessarily rooted in sexism.
Beyond the memes, she is great. Sometimes people riff on the rivals. Although it seems extreme in this case since of the three on-going stories, SV only has one consistent battling rival. Last game had three others enter the overall competition. Here, we are back to one who also is already at champion level.
I love Nemone, my autistic best friend.
Oh, I understand her, the memes are just funny.
My first impression of Nemona was as something of a Senpai character, a helpful upper-class student willing to teach the newbie player (in-universe) the intricacies of Pokémon battling. While I get a kick out of the jokes about Nemona's potential stalking, Nemona-senpai will always be how I see this high ranking friendly rival (better than Hop and Calem, and slightly above Hau, with Hugh's cool factor being the only thing keeping him above her).
My fave character in the game series.
I admit, I didn't notice her tendency to get short of breath :)
@@Dusxio it comes up during the conversation in the crater, and her Day With event in Masters focuses on it.
Im pretty sure the yandere thing is just a meme lol
Honestly, Nemona is a refreshing character. There's nice story development in these SV characters and her enjoyment of battles is something I can relate to 😅 I didn't really have anyone growing up who liked pokemon, and even now my excitement for pokemon is something I don't tend to share anymore
absolutely love the cool big sis mentor/rival dynamic 😭 hope we learn more about her parents/sister someday. SV has so many amazing characters, idk how next gen will top it
I’ve always thought of Nemona being neurodivergent personally. She has such a high passion for Pokémon battling and knows so much that in my perspective, I’ve always interpreted it as being her special interest. And of course, similarly to myself, she wants to share her special interest with others. She wants to be able to show her one good friend how amazing something is, but sometimes comes across as obsessed or pushy, hence why people may be scared or deterred by her being around. Also, in complete honesty, she’s definitely my favourite rival.
Omg you also call her bestie ❤
"PKMN doesn't need a lot of physical exertion from the trainer"
Adventures: allow me to introduce myself
ok so i totally understand nemona isnt a stalker or yandere, but i still think its funny to occasionally joke about it.
Same
Nah, if you look at her answers when you say no they get more and more unhinged and eventually goes full caveman. She is NOT letting you go.
I've always loved Nemona!
Nemona is just your typical rival character who is REALLY excited to be a typical rival character
Nemona has always just felt like a typical shonen protagonist to me. Just loves to fight.
I like Nemona. It is refreshing that the main battler rival is a set female, not dependent on the player being male.
As a Nemona fan, thank you
I remember when she asked the protagonist to be their rival for life i thought " did she just propose?"
Nemona might honestly be the best rival in the series imo. She just wants a friend. Someone who can keep up with her. And as the new person who doesnt know her as rhe champion ranked trainer she is. She can be more open and friendly with you. Shes a great character.
Nemona is my favorite character. I like her character her personality in her backstory really is interesting. Plus I feel a connection with her.
NEMONA ROCKS, I LOVE NEMONA
Nemona deserve more love. While Ardyn is the best rival character development side and Penny was the most interesting (even though she's not great of a character in my opinion) Nemona deserves better. She doesn't need a tragic backstory, she's a lonely top trainer trying to find someone who enjoys battling but also someone to befriend. As a result I relate to her and I don't understand why everytime a female character is happy they're "too childish" or "too stalkerish". (Though to be fair I'm getting tired of the "Dorky" trope in media.) Nemona is not a dork. She's herself and basically a kind person who excitable but not too excitable. She reminds me of Papyrus from Undertale, both don't have the deepest backstories they are designed to be your friends. No whether or not you wish Nemona had deep backstory is up to your opinion. But overall Nemona deserves a chance and more love. She is the friendly rival trope done right and while I wish her battles were hard, at least she was more fun than Hau or Hop. (Sorry Hop)
@@IAmBored347 Nemona does have a pretty sad backstory insofar as her parents ignore her in favor of her older sister, since her sister is set to succeed them in business.
I love them all and she isn’t a yandere she is just a person who really likes to play singles
When are the earliest things that I remember for "Nemona being a yandere" replacing hers with Monika's from ddlc (and slightly changing them to fit Pokemon, of course) and then somebody made art of Nemona over act 3 Monika
Nemona is just a much more enthusiastic arven or penny in the sense she can be a bit awkward making friends. She seems clingy but that's only because we're the first friend she made where she can just be herself it's not that she's unpopular she just has to hide who she really is to avoid scaring people off (we even see an example of this post game). But with us because we're such talented trainers she doesn't need to hold back anything both her personality and her skills
I remember skimming through one playthrough of Violet where the guy made an assumption about the Fairy Team Star Admin, then mashed through the following cutscene that showed how the opposite was true.
I feel like things like that being commonplace leads to a lot of misunderstandings of what some characters are actually like. That, and some people not wanting to analyze characters they find annoying. Looking at you, Hop.
@@darkiusmc979 let me guess. Alpharad?
@@BJGvideos Yeah, it was.
@@darkiusmc979 Idk how he got so popular. Trainwreck factor?
@@BJGvideos He got popular through other things, not really Pokemon.
He just seems to have convinced himself that because he doesn't care about Pokemon plots, that it's okay to spread misinformation or make fun of people that do, and it's routinely frustrating that he does so.
@@darkiusmc979 Totally. And I hate that he's so influential to Jaiden though she doesn't seem to carry the same disregard (she kinda did in Platinum but she seems to have gotten past that)
I actually do understand that she's not a yandere like some people believe, I just like to joke about her being a yandere because I think it's fun, but I do like her as a character.
We've only had one yandere in this series and it's Volo. And he's yandere for Arceus, not us.
I admit I thought Nemona was kinda creepy at first but as i got to know her and understand why she's like that, i wanted her to be my friend for real.
I'm not sure what her gender has to do with that though. People hate upbeat rivals. The ones you compare her to, Barry and Hau, are wildly hated. And Cynthia is one of the most loved characters in the franchise.
An issue i think is that when everyone is talking about their families in the crater, the text goes REALLY fast. I was having trouble keeping up with it and I'm a very fast reader. And combine that with how people (stupidly) skip the story in these games (my siblings in Arceus you are playing a JRPG) it leads to a lack of anyone reading fast text.
I love how in the epilogue she was able to train a largely brand new team up to championship level in a matter of DAYS. In the midst of what's effectively a zombie outbreak.
@@BJGvideos
I feel so validated with that JRPG comment.
Also wait, Barry's widely hated? I knew Hau was divisive, but Barry?
Did something change in the fandom or was I missing something?
@@matts5747 Barry is generally seen as annoying and abrasive. I think people conflate him with his anime version. At least other versions of him like Pearl and Jun have different names, but Barry is seen as the same character.
It's totally a JRPG and people need to accept that! They're playing a game in a very story-heavy genre and for some reason they still think of the story as an excuse plot like it was in gen one. Which itself was only a limitation of the Game Boy.
@@BJGvideos
Those complaints towards Barry are understandable even if I don't agree with them.
Still, to me growing up, it felt like Barry was one of the more popular rivals. Did BDSP have anything to do with it?
On a more positive note, Pearl is a decently interesting adaption of Barry. While he's my least favorite of the Sinnoh Dex holders, he's still great. One thing I do like about him is being the son of Palmer is played into his battle process. I also really like his friendship with Dia and how that develops
I'd honestly like to see him interact with his game counterpart
@@matts5747 I don't know. I think the fandom turned against him before BDSP. I know he was liked at first. But again I really think it was the anime that did it.
We need manga characters in Masters! They had anime characters so why not? Yellow has been probably the most hotly requested character that we haven't gotten yet (alongside Miror B because they're allergic to side games too). I also wanna see deeper cuts like Mitsumi (my most wanted character) and Hazel
@@BJGvideos
Oh right! It could happen in Masters!
I know apparently there are some Pokémon Adventures references in Masters but having one of the characters would be interesting. Although I have to wonder if for the Dex holders, an issue might be distinguishing them from their game counterparts. Someone like Ruby or Violet wouldn't have this problem, but by comparison I'd imagine Black, Casey, or even Dia might have issues.
Ah someone else who read Diamond and Pearl Adventure!
Also if I have the right character on Bulbapedia, your referring to the character from Magical Pokémon Journey right? Never heard of that series until now.
Okay, so a hot take here, I think Nemona looks way better in Violet. It's the Uva Academy uniform that does it, really adds to her in ways the Naranja Academy uniform just doesn't.
I feel the opposite
1:52 idk man people LOVE cynthia including me. I've never seen anything thing she's crazy just that their "Scared" of her cause she beat their asses when they where kids, She's probably a lot of peoples #1 champion.
I relate to Nemona a lot, not necessarily with the "being very good at x thing" stuff, but more her trait of really enjoying her hobby, to the point where outsiders may see her as obsessive or intimidating.
I can totally understand how it must feel for Nemona to go years being something of an outcast, only to finally meet someone (the player character) who matches her passion and, to a lesser importance, her skill. When you meet someone like that, you do sometimes find yourself wanting to spend lots of time with them, investing your feelings and coming on stronf.
I see a lot of myself in Nemona, and she gives me some neurodivergent vibes that make me feel really seen myself. When people do the whole "yandere Nemona" thing, it unnerves me, because I feel similar to her in some ways! I suppose, in a way, it's kind of my own fault for taking it a touch personally, because I relate to her thanks to a headcanon I attributed to her myself. I suppose that's kind of what Kieran did with Ogrepon 😅
In any case, thank you for making this, I do appreciate it!
Nemona has the best rival theme in my opion
She looks like a sister to me when I play as Juliana. But she's the other way around when I'm Florian.
Ok but
zoning in a single trait of a character and dialing up to eleven for a cheap laugh that ends up becoming a meme and deconstructs their personality into a joke?
Not the first time it happened
This is a conversation that's pretty much present in every fandom. The meme template of the "serious character canon vs. lovable scrungo fanon" exist for a reason. At the end of the day it's a topic that is best leave it as is because no matter how much you try to explain a character to someone they will most likely either: A) They already know, they are just having a little fun just noting and amplifying traits of a character to comedic proportions just for fun (like I usually do) or; B) They legit don't really care about YOUR interpretation and they will cover their ears just so that their confort character remains being gay or something.
They did the same to Gloria. Turned her into a cockney accent girl who constantly drinks and swears.
Gloria at least doesn't have a canon personality. Nemona does
You mean, Scottish?
A good way to summarize Nemona is indeed to think of her as a female Goku. She lives for the thrill of Pokemon battles, and she would rather beat you at your best.
I've always seen her in the Goku mold, but in the good way. She's strong because she enjoys battling and just wants another person who gets that. And the player character does get that, you buy the game to catch cool Pokemon, battle, trade, and explore.
She's the new game plus veteran getting the noob up to speed and then enjoying the game again when you hit her level.
There are 3 type of Pokemon fans:
- Those who see things as they are
- Those who see beyond things as they are and make them look more profound or funny
- Those who use the funny to create and validate head canons, creating a different interpretation of things.
Would love a video about Penny in the future. Out of all the characters in gen 9, Penny is misunderstood/hated the most.
Nemona is kind of like Goku, always looking for the next challenge in order to get better, but this is not the only defining characteristic of the character, just the most prominent one
Ash is real, hes lying dead in the bathtub with pikachu
In my head canon Nemona is a super Leon fangirl
She’s similar to Goku if he was a girl, and a Pokémon trainer instead of a martial artist, it’s great, and I love Nemona she’s an incredible character!
They should've made Nemona battles like Majima fights in Yakuza
I love Nemona so much. She is such a great rival with an energetic, comedic, and friendly personality. I never saw her as a yandere at all but as a person who wants to be friends with those who love Pokémon battling as much as her. Pokémon Horizons has really done her justice, and I hope we see her appear in the Rayquaza Rising arc.😍🧡🤍🖤💚
Thankyou I like yandere Nemona but some people who don't read Doesn't understand her character. I was 13 and I still understand Nemona as a character. Plus the people who say Nemona is weird is the same people who wants pokemon to have a better story. Even though they don't even read and just skip though it.
You know, it's almost like a majority of Pokémon can't understand character depth and stop at their first impression of these characters, as if it's all there is to them. Just look at the way they treat characters like Kieran, Zinnia and, well Nemona.
But yeah, Pokémon should really stop forcing us to say yes all the time. It's true with Nemona, but especially with Kieran, with the infamous scene where they force you to lie to him, which I still hate being forced to do, even if his character is incredible.
I can't be the only one who didn't WANT to tell Kieran the truth
@@BJGvideos Of course not. And you and I have already talked about that, haven't we ?
@@Oceane1803 Possibly
HEY, IT'S ME GOKU
She’s my favorite Pokémon character. I really care more about the mons but still go nemona.
Nemona personally is just a senpai who wants her kohai to succeed and his excited when they do get stronger. She’s up there with Hop as one of the really good post gen 5 rivals due to her personality. Like she’s a friend but she fights you because she wants you to be on her level as you are the first person who she doesn’t need to hold back on in fear of scaring away another challenger. I’ve always saw her running into you constantly as her just wanting to make sure you’re doing fine and you unable to deny her battle after you fight the elite 4 as her probably getting too excited because she finally has a friend who is on her level. She isn’t a yandere, she’s just genki and supportive, and I think that’s what makes her a good rival
Did anyone else think her big glove was a prosthetic arm???
Nemona is definitely in my top 3 favorite characters of gen 9,i love her passion for battles. Off topic is what are your thoughts on the pokemon sun and moon train on trailers ?