Finally someone posting some good videos about the Panasonic S lineup! Love your stuff man. I have an S1 and I’ve watched a number of your videos to figure out what lens I want next. Thanks for posting this.
Great setup! I got the Sigma 70-200 f2.8 on the EF mount so I could also use it with the GH5s + speed booster. For handheld zoom I use the 100-400 LUMIX on the G9. On the S1 I use the Sigma 14-24 f2.8, LUMIX 24-105 f4, and Sigma 50mm f1.4. The zooms are usually manually focused on tripods for weddings and then I switch between the 24-105 and the 50 on the S1 for all my handheld stuff. I also use the Sigma 18-35 on the GH4 for my wide shot on a tripod at weddings. I had to go for the Sigma 14-24 f2.8 to get night sky shots because 16-35 f4 just isn’t fast enough.
Wait, you are THE Rikki Rockett! How cool is that! Loved your music back in the day, man. I wonder if @FatherOfBirds realizes a rock legend commented on his video?
Is the build quality of the 70-200 not the same as of the 16-35? I mean the materials. I just bought a mint 16-35 for 700 here. I love it. Now I am considering the 50 1.4
Hello sir I discovered your channel a few days ago but you are the best camera experience. I new to camera. What lense is good overall for lumix s5iix. Thank you. I subscribed and thumb up every time I watch your RUclips.
I built everything off of the 24-105 F4 macro. I think if I could get one single lens it would be that, possibly the 24-70mm F2.8 if you want to spend a little more and sigma 28-70mm F2.8 if you want to save money and get 2.8. This would depend on what you were shooting, real estate could go 16mm but overall those 3 up top are more versatile.
Looking to get into the S series of camera and I’ve got one big question about these lenses, and that is, are they parfocal or even close? It’s pretty important to me to be able to zoom while recording
Great review. I'm seriously considering the S1H and 24-70 lens strictly for shooting video. My current cameras are the EVA1 and GH5, and I'm inclined to continue with Panasonic as I enjoy grading Vlog. Q: Do you know if the Lumix S PRO 24-70mm f/2.8 with a follow focus system? I'm wondering how the linear focus feature works, as it appears that the focus ring continues to turn past what would normally be hard stops. I use the Tilta Nucleus Nano, which has an auto-calibration mode that turns the focus ring to both extremes of the focus, and maps that to the control wheel. As the focus ring on the 24-70 lens keeps turning past the ends, I could manually set the follow focus system, but I'm just not sure if it would be repeatable.
@@fatherofbirds I did get the S1H and Lumix 24-70 lens, Sigma MC21 adapter and Tilta cage...and love it. I haven't explored the Nucleus Nano with the 24-70 yet (need a lens gear ring), but it works great with my adapted lens and the Tilta cage.
Really like your videos (subscribed)...very detailed and informative for real-world applications. Your nuanced breakdown of the pros and cons is really helpful. I was on the fence with the 70-200 F2.8 versus f4 versus 3rd party; and your video, with your "down to earth" insights helped me decide on the staying native and going with the F2.8 (200mm). You truly come across in your videos as someone who is seriously into the profession and I appreciate that. Keep up the great work and videos!
Thanks Brother, I’ve been slacking on upload because we’ve been displaced by covid but hopefully I can get back to it soon. Hope to see you again on the channel.
You’ve taught me so much about lenses for my new S5. Wish I’d watched this before selling my Canon 70-200. Going to keep the Canon 16-35 as I have bought the Sigma adapter. I’m not a pro photographer so what would you recommend to give me more reach without breaking the bank? I bought the 24-70 Lumix lens. I have kept my Tamron 28-300 but would consider replacing that. Weight is a consideration. Thank you for your very thorough reviews.
Damon Scothern Thank you, I spend a lot of time obsessing about glass. I really love the tiny differences in all of these lenses mentioned but at the end of the day Lumix/Lieca are just so nice to me.
Purchased the Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 for Panasonic-S1. After not much time and use, I decided to return it...like the other Sigma lenses I've purchased, I agree with you that it is noisy...I can actually hear and feel the auto focus mechanism...big drag! So just sent it back today and just ordered the Lumix-S pro 24-70mm. Was trying to save some money, but not worth it in the long run...so distracting to hear and feel the AF mechanism. I had also ordered the Sigma 14-24mm, and found it to have the same noisy issue. The other issue I had with the 2 Sigma lenses is in Manual Focus...in the viewfinder and LCD, the distance gauge was totally jumpy...not smooth like Lumix-S lenses. Very disappointed in Sigma...returned both!
Sandy Broker I feel the same, these are end game camera for me so I’m trying to treat the lenses the same way. All the S-Pro lenses I’ve used have been perfect. The only sigma I kept was 85mm 1.4 and that’s just because I love that as a prime so much, it’s fine for photo but yes Lumix only for video if you aren’t mania focusing for sure. 🖤
@@fatherofbirds Now just need to save for 70-200mm 2.8! Have the 4.0, but really want that low light capability. And will wait for 2.8 wide angle Lumix S-Pro. I'm with you...sticking with Lumix for my S-1...which I love!
Sandy Broker I love the 70-200 F2.8 but it is a heavy boy. We have 2 photographers in our home so going for the F4 16-35mm is okay for us because we eventually would like to have 2. I love my S1 but I may jump from it to get the S5 if the specs are right.
Simple, sincere, playful... I dig your style, man. Im torn on the one fact that this camera lcd screen does not flip out. Do you have a video review on the SH1?
Dude I have some canon fds I will be attaching to my s1 that I ordered I love using them on my m43 gear so I am really hyped how they will look on the s1 ! def want to get some panasonic lenses as well think that 24-105 will be my first
Really enjoyed the video. Very informative. New subscriber! We need more creators like you who share for S system users. I want the 70-200 2.8 so bad. Currently own the 24-105, the 14-24 sigma (which I use for real Estate) and the s pro 50 which is a beast!
Great overview! Everything you've outlined in the last couple videos makes a strong case for these Panasonic pro zooms. Studio I collaborate with locally here in Houston recently got an S1H, and they're about to get a second one. Been wondering if the native lenses is worth it. Definitely worth renting to see how well it fits in the workflow.
@@fatherofbirds Me too! But then there are those 12 hour days where we're running location to location with no stops, heavy backpacks on our back, and the last thing I want with me on those days, is a heavy telephoto zoom. I might opt for the f/4 version just for those 600grams.
Mohammad Rezaie And you certainly could. That lens is more than capable I had it for a month and loved it. I very obsessed with my quest for the trinity of 2.8s at the time. But that F4 is no slouch, very easy to recommend it.
I got the S1R, & a Leica 16mm lens. My next lens was going to be either the 24-70 2.8 or the 70-200 2.8. When I asked the question to a salesperson at Adorama or B& H they told me that there was no barrel extension on the 24-70 2.8, but yours seems to extend quite a bit. Is there barrel extension on the 70-200 2.8 as well? I own a Zeiss 24-70 4.0 & can’t stand the barrel extension. Thanks for the video & May the wind be at your back & under your wings
mikeoclimberMTB, thanks, & true, but the Sony has a 16-55 2.8 G lens & a 24-105 f4 G lens with no barrel extension. That’s the way i like them.... just a pet peeve of mine, though the 16-35 S Pro extension is minimal & ok with me.
Thanks for the content I’ve been debating getting a s1 and then trying to figure out which first lens to get I think that 16-24 would be good. Also going to check out that 14mm one.
I wonder how the Sigma 18-35 with Sigma MC21 adapter would do with the Leica CL? On the S5, the autofocus is not terribly reliable for fast moving subjects, but manageable for stationary subjects.
Hi ! Nice and dynamic video. Thanks I would leave the 24-70 as like you say it’s not specialised in any thing... my trinity would be the 16-35 f/4, the S Pro 50 f1.4 and a tele prime lense like 105 ... I’ve had several 24-70 2.8 in the past on my Nikon system but never loved shooting with it as it lacks a lot of caracter. It’s a tool for photo journalism but not my favorite as I prefer prime lenses. On my Nikon D3S my trinity is 28 1.4 / 58 1.4 / 85 1.4 - no more zooms in my arsenal. And for now on my S1R I keep my 50 1.4 which is sometimes very big that’s why I love mounting M lenses on it.
I have a Panasonic S5, I love it. But the autofocus that twitches in your video (you can see it if you look at the camera, in the lower left corner) just upsets me! Thank's!
Good review .... been looking for this .Picking up a SL2s and need a 70 -200 .Looks like the Pany is a good buy . I`ll eventually add an extender for the odd time I might want a little more reach so the 2.8 will give me that extra light .
Eduard L Haha at one time nope, but sigma has matured the line a good bit, the only core thing that’s missing is a native wild life and a true macro as far as core glass in concerned.
Nice job Devon, thank you! I've acquired a lot of Leica M & R, Canon L, and a couple of L-mount sigma lenses over the decades, mainly used for photography. This 24-70mm S Pro, has to be in my top 3 best lenses I've ever used, let alone on a Lumix S2 or Leica SL. At every focal length, it yields an end-result that is equivalent to it's prime equivalent with the benefit of modern colors and optics. The one and only one grip about it, is the heft that in certain situations makes me leave it the bag or at home. It is Adorably even better than the recent Leica 24-70mm IMO too having tested one in the Leica store. Would love to see your thoughts and compare the two. Cheers!
Great video! Well done! Just got the S1R + 24-105 at a very good price. Decided to order the Sigma 14-24 DG DN and should be receiving it soon. Was considering the 16-35 but felt the F2.8 and especially the 14mm was more useful for me and risking a slightly slower AF won't matter much with ultra wide angle. It is a bit worrying though what I hear about Sigma lenses focusing slower than the Lumix lenses. This was one of the reasons there was an "alliance" from the start. We shouldn't have to deal much with focusing issues between the three brand and such. Sigma lenses should be DFD calibrated on the Lumix and Leica bodies for example and the focusing motors should be able to run at 480fps. Like I said, a bit worrying but the S1R and Lumix ergonomics, menus, usability are just top notch and no other system I have tried is on par! I switched from the m43 G9 and RIGHT AWAY I knew where everything was, that alone is worth a whole lot and shows how much Panasonic really knows about cameras and usability. Unlike some other brands that change buttons and knobs with each new model, not to mention grip design. Oh another thing, you mentioned the Lumix 24-70 was quite pricey for a 24-70, and it "was" but I think that the field has leveled there with the release from the other brands and their new mirrorless designs costing as much and sometimes more. It's just the new normal and shouldn't be compared to DSLR designs I believe. It's like the Lumix 50mm F1.4. Everybody were shocked at the price and weight and now with CaNikon releasing similar lenses at similar prices and sizes, it's all "normal". Thanks again for a good review/overview of the lenses. Depending on price, I believe with longer focal lengths and better faster AF it may very well be worth paying the extra, though the 24-70 is twice the price of the Sigma 24-70.
Thanks for all your kind words. Keep me updated with your findings of the 14-24. I thought about going for that as well and it wasn’t the auto focus that swayed me as much as there not being a easy way to use my variable ND filters. If I didn’t have to do video so much I wouldn’t have minded... I still want that lens though ... I want one of everything .
We all want one of everything ;-) The lens is fantastic, that's my first impression. I had a m43 setup with pretty much the best Pro glass from Olympus and Panasonic ranging from 24 to 600mm in FF terms. In pure sharpness, so far, the Sigma 14-24 DG DN is up there with the very best of them, if not better. I'd say it easily goes head to head with the Panasonic Leica 42,5mm F1.2 stopped down. Having said that, it's like you say, it's a photographers lens since it's near impossible to use variable ND filters on it. I ordered the rear filter kit and will see how that works today but it's for photo only, or very controlled video I suppose. I can't imagine running and gunning with a variable ND at 150mm size :-O Keep up the good work :-)
Hey hope all is good! Right now I have 24-105 f4 thinking of updating to 24-70 s pro 2.8 or buying the 16-36 f4 s pro. How much better is the 24-70 2.8 s pro over the kit for video ? Or do you think it is a better route to go with the 16-35 f4 ?
The 16-35mm F4 is in a different class of its own. If you need more lenses and your own a budget and mostly do photo go with the 20-60mm it will be fine. But if want a near perfectly crafted 16-35mm go with Lumix. I just finished a video shoot with this tonight. I needed some more reach so I put the camera in super 35 mode and turned into a 24-52.5mm
Sure wish Panasonic had release the 16-35 f/2.8 first! 😔 Maybe they'll release it as a 14-35. As a primary photographer, I need good AF and the Sigma has problems with AF.
Never ever go the Canon lens route because the devil in that is then you would realize that Canon bodies are also better and cheaper and AF is a world better using Canon native lens that make you want to ditch L mount altogether and go full Canon.
A poor selection of focal lengths. The 16-35 almost doubles half of the reach of 24-70. Instead of doubling the 35/28/24 part of the 24-70 why not make a 14-24? And instead of doubling the 24mm part why not make a 28-105/2.8 and start the tele zoom from 120? 120-300/2.8 anyone? Sigma does think so!
It Wasn’t a recommendation as much as a review of the Lumix Trinity in its current state. You could get more flexibility with a 14-28 2.8 but and over all it’s a good choice if your willing to lose the better autofocus and have color amongst glass starting to vary. It’s a choice and work flow, “the trinity” is always talked about as these which is what I’m reviewing.
Nice Video mate! reckon you could vlog hand held with the s pro 24 - 70mm?
Finally someone posting some good videos about the Panasonic S lineup! Love your stuff man. I have an S1 and I’ve watched a number of your videos to figure out what lens I want next. Thanks for posting this.
Hi mate, your L-mount Trinity looks awesome. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the review, can't wait to see your work with these babies
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Here is the last music video I shot on them :D
@@fatherofbirds wow look at the colors and details! Now I can retire my GH5 for sure ;D
Dude thanks for putting this up, really up really appreciate, not many available!!!
Great setup! I got the Sigma 70-200 f2.8 on the EF mount so I could also use it with the GH5s + speed booster. For handheld zoom I use the 100-400 LUMIX on the G9. On the S1 I use the Sigma 14-24 f2.8, LUMIX 24-105 f4, and Sigma 50mm f1.4. The zooms are usually manually focused on tripods for weddings and then I switch between the 24-105 and the 50 on the S1 for all my handheld stuff. I also use the Sigma 18-35 on the GH4 for my wide shot on a tripod at weddings. I had to go for the Sigma 14-24 f2.8 to get night sky shots because 16-35 f4 just isn’t fast enough.
Hi Devon, I see you vlog with the Rode VideoMic Pro, one question: do you enable the High-Pass filter or do you use it flat? Cheers!
depends on the situation but flat mostly indoors
I have the 16-35 Lumix and the Leica 24-90. That covers most of what I do and I go between the Lumix S1H and the Leica SL 2.
Wait, you are THE Rikki Rockett! How cool is that! Loved your music back in the day, man. I wonder if @FatherOfBirds realizes a rock legend commented on his video?
Wonderful review of these lenses! What was your camera setup for this video? Love this lighting and interview setup. Great work, again! :)
Do you know if the Panasonic S 70-200mm f4 version can be used with the 1.4 or 2x teleconverter
I'd love to see some examples of the footage/images you can get from these lenses!
Your Story Studios I’m gonna make each one individually to give them more attention.
@@fatherofbirds looking forward to seeing them!
Is the build quality of the 70-200 not the same as of the 16-35? I mean the materials. I just bought a mint 16-35 for 700 here. I love it. Now I am considering the 50 1.4
Hello sir I discovered your channel a few days ago but you are the best camera experience. I new to camera. What lense is good overall for lumix s5iix. Thank you. I subscribed and thumb up every time I watch your RUclips.
I built everything off of the 24-105 F4 macro.
I think if I could get one single lens it would be that, possibly the 24-70mm F2.8 if you want to spend a little more and sigma 28-70mm F2.8 if you want to save money and get 2.8.
This would depend on what you were shooting, real estate could go 16mm but overall those 3 up top are more versatile.
Looking to get into the S series of camera and I’ve got one big question about these lenses, and that is, are they parfocal or even close? It’s pretty important to me to be able to zoom while recording
All the s pro series are, it’s really great and under talked bout.
Great review. I'm seriously considering the S1H and 24-70 lens strictly for shooting video. My current cameras are the EVA1 and GH5, and I'm inclined to continue with Panasonic as I enjoy grading Vlog.
Q: Do you know if the Lumix S PRO 24-70mm f/2.8 with a follow focus system? I'm wondering how the linear focus feature works, as it appears that the focus ring continues to turn past what would normally be hard stops.
I use the Tilta Nucleus Nano, which has an auto-calibration mode that turns the focus ring to both extremes of the focus, and maps that to the control wheel. As the focus ring on the 24-70 lens keeps turning past the ends, I could manually set the follow focus system, but I'm just not sure if it would be repeatable.
Calibrate it with the focus clutch pulled back then you will have hard stops
@@fatherofbirds I did get the S1H and Lumix 24-70 lens, Sigma MC21 adapter and Tilta cage...and love it. I haven't explored the Nucleus Nano with the 24-70 yet (need a lens gear ring), but it works great with my adapted lens and the Tilta cage.
@@davidp158 I think the a ring comes with the nucleus nano
Hi, Thank you for the review. Is the 16-35 lens also metal as 24-70?
Really like your videos (subscribed)...very detailed and informative for real-world applications. Your nuanced breakdown of the pros and cons is really helpful. I was on the fence with the 70-200 F2.8 versus f4 versus 3rd party; and your video, with your "down to earth" insights helped me decide on the staying native and going with the F2.8 (200mm). You truly come across in your videos as someone who is seriously into the profession and I appreciate that. Keep up the great work and videos!
Thanks Brother, I’ve been slacking on upload because we’ve been displaced by covid but hopefully I can get back to it soon.
Hope to see you again on the channel.
You’ve taught me so much about lenses for my new S5. Wish I’d watched this before selling my Canon 70-200. Going to keep the Canon 16-35 as I have bought the Sigma adapter. I’m not a pro photographer so what would you recommend to give me more reach without breaking the bank? I bought the 24-70 Lumix lens. I have kept my Tamron 28-300 but would consider replacing that. Weight is a consideration. Thank you for your very thorough reviews.
Sigma 100-400 is a cool option for under $1000
Very helpful as I’ve just bought the S5 and need lens advice. Will watch it again. Thanks
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Stellar :)
I want one so bad but I need them to start releasing batteries also.
Just bought the S1 with kit lens and looking to add the 16-35, very helpful and well presented info, thank you.
Damon Scothern Thank you, I spend a lot of time obsessing about glass. I really love the tiny differences in all of these lenses mentioned but at the end of the day Lumix/Lieca are just so nice to me.
Purchased the Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 for Panasonic-S1. After not much time and use, I decided to return it...like the other Sigma lenses I've purchased, I agree with you that it is noisy...I can actually hear and feel the auto focus mechanism...big drag! So just sent it back today and just ordered the Lumix-S pro 24-70mm. Was trying to save some money, but not worth it in the long run...so distracting to hear and feel the AF mechanism. I had also ordered the Sigma 14-24mm, and found it to have the same noisy issue. The other issue I had with the 2 Sigma lenses is in Manual Focus...in the viewfinder and LCD, the distance gauge was totally jumpy...not smooth like Lumix-S lenses. Very disappointed in Sigma...returned both!
Sandy Broker I feel the same, these are end game camera for me so I’m trying to treat the lenses the same way. All the S-Pro lenses I’ve used have been perfect. The only sigma I kept was 85mm 1.4 and that’s just because I love that as a prime so much, it’s fine for photo but yes Lumix only for video if you aren’t mania focusing for sure. 🖤
@@fatherofbirds Now just need to save for 70-200mm 2.8! Have the 4.0, but really want that low light capability. And will wait for 2.8 wide angle Lumix S-Pro. I'm with you...sticking with Lumix for my S-1...which I love!
Sandy Broker
I love the 70-200 F2.8 but it is a heavy boy.
We have 2 photographers in our home so going for the F4 16-35mm is okay for us because we eventually would like to have 2.
I love my S1 but I may jump from it to get the S5 if the specs are right.
Simple, sincere, playful... I dig your style, man. Im torn on the one fact that this camera lcd screen does not flip out. Do you have a video review on the SH1?
Gabe Cuello nope but I’ll make one, coming in the near future.
Gabe Cuello Also, thank you for the complements :)
so expensive :'( one of the biggest reason i dont wanna upgrade to S5 is the lens selection, still too early. I do love the range of 20-60 tho
They have so good priced primes now, plus the used market has some really good deals.
really cool review 👍
Thanks sorry if it ran kind of long.
The Raven Studio oh no, in lockdown times it‘ ok ;)
We're currently running a Panasonic S1 with 24-105mm F4 😀
Your Story Studios With the ability to crop in so much with sensor sizes that lens can get you so far.
Dude I have some canon fds I will be attaching to my s1 that I ordered I love using them on my m43 gear so I am really hyped how they will look on the s1 ! def want to get some panasonic lenses as well think that 24-105 will be my first
Panasonic Used market is really popping you can get that lens at a good deal :)
Really enjoyed the video. Very informative. New subscriber! We need more creators like you who share for S system users. I want the 70-200 2.8 so bad. Currently own the 24-105, the 14-24 sigma (which I use for real Estate) and the s pro 50 which is a beast!
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Great overview! Everything you've outlined in the last couple videos makes a strong case for these Panasonic pro zooms. Studio I collaborate with locally here in Houston recently got an S1H, and they're about to get a second one. Been wondering if the native lenses is worth it. Definitely worth renting to see how well it fits in the workflow.
Love this brother!
Captured By Kyle Thanks man, just trying to help navigate through this mount :)
@@fatherofbirds - I finally got my S1 by the way... It's AMAZING. So glad I ditched my XT3 for it!
Great video! I wish that 70-200 f/2.8 was lighter. I am really over carrying 1.5KG lenses.
Mohammad Rezaie I’m always torn, I love having big cameras and glass but yeah, there are days when I’m not about it.
@@fatherofbirds Me too! But then there are those 12 hour days where we're running location to location with no stops, heavy backpacks on our back, and the last thing I want with me on those days, is a heavy telephoto zoom. I might opt for the f/4 version just for those 600grams.
Mohammad Rezaie
And you certainly could.
That lens is more than capable I had it for a month and loved it.
I very obsessed with my quest for the trinity of 2.8s at the time.
But that F4 is no slouch, very easy to recommend it.
I got the S1R, & a Leica 16mm lens. My next lens was going to be either the 24-70 2.8 or the 70-200 2.8. When I asked the question to a salesperson at Adorama or B& H they told me that there was no barrel extension on the 24-70 2.8, but yours seems to extend quite a bit. Is there barrel extension on the 70-200 2.8 as well? I own a Zeiss 24-70 4.0 & can’t stand the barrel extension. Thanks for the video & May the wind be at your back & under your wings
Most 24-70 2.8s have barrel extension. The Panasonic 70-200 2.8 is all internal when zooming.
mikeoclimberMTB, thanks, & true, but the Sony has a 16-55 2.8 G lens & a 24-105 f4 G lens with no barrel extension. That’s the way i like them.... just a pet peeve of mine, though the 16-35 S Pro extension is minimal & ok with me.
Thanks for the content I’ve been debating getting a s1 and then trying to figure out which first lens to get I think that 16-24 would be good. Also going to check out that 14mm one.
i have the 16-35 and use it on my leica cl. i absolutely love that lens more than the kit 18-56 that came with the camera
🖤 That great to know :)
I wonder how the Sigma 18-35 with Sigma MC21 adapter would do with the Leica CL? On the S5, the autofocus is not terribly reliable for fast moving subjects, but manageable for stationary subjects.
Hi ! Nice and dynamic video. Thanks
I would leave the 24-70 as like you say it’s not specialised in any thing... my trinity would be the 16-35 f/4, the S Pro 50 f1.4 and a tele prime lense like 105 ...
I’ve had several 24-70 2.8 in the past on my Nikon system but never loved shooting with it as it lacks a lot of caracter. It’s a tool for photo journalism but not my favorite as I prefer prime lenses.
On my Nikon D3S my trinity is 28 1.4 / 58 1.4 / 85 1.4 - no more zooms in my arsenal.
And for now on my S1R I keep my 50 1.4 which is sometimes very big that’s why I love mounting M lenses on it.
I have a Panasonic S5, I love it. But the autofocus that twitches in your video (you can see it if you look at the camera, in the lower left corner) just upsets me! Thank's!
this is the price we pay on Lumix but this January 4th may fix all of that.
@@fatherofbirds What happens on the 4th? Will there be a new firmware?
Good review .... been looking for this .Picking up a SL2s and need a 70 -200 .Looks like the Pany is a good buy . I`ll eventually add an extender for the odd time I might want a little more reach so the 2.8 will give me that extra light .
I want that 2x extender myself
there is more than 5?
Eduard L Haha at one time nope, but sigma has matured the line a good bit, the only core thing that’s missing is a native wild life and a true macro as far as core glass in concerned.
Great content luv your videos keep up the good work 👌
Nice job Devon, thank you! I've acquired a lot of Leica M & R, Canon L, and a couple of L-mount sigma lenses over the decades, mainly used for photography. This 24-70mm S Pro, has to be in my top 3 best lenses I've ever used, let alone on a Lumix S2 or Leica SL. At every focal length, it yields an end-result that is equivalent to it's prime equivalent with the benefit of modern colors and optics. The one and only one grip about it, is the heft that in certain situations makes me leave it the bag or at home. It is Adorably even better than the recent Leica 24-70mm IMO too having tested one in the Leica store. Would love to see your thoughts and compare the two. Cheers!
Great video! Well done!
Just got the S1R + 24-105 at a very good price. Decided to order the Sigma 14-24 DG DN and should be receiving it soon. Was considering the 16-35 but felt the F2.8 and especially the 14mm was more useful for me and risking a slightly slower AF won't matter much with ultra wide angle.
It is a bit worrying though what I hear about Sigma lenses focusing slower than the Lumix lenses. This was one of the reasons there was an "alliance" from the start. We shouldn't have to deal much with focusing issues between the three brand and such. Sigma lenses should be DFD calibrated on the Lumix and Leica bodies for example and the focusing motors should be able to run at 480fps.
Like I said, a bit worrying but the S1R and Lumix ergonomics, menus, usability are just top notch and no other system I have tried is on par! I switched from the m43 G9 and RIGHT AWAY I knew where everything was, that alone is worth a whole lot and shows how much Panasonic really knows about cameras and usability. Unlike some other brands that change buttons and knobs with each new model, not to mention grip design.
Oh another thing, you mentioned the Lumix 24-70 was quite pricey for a 24-70, and it "was" but I think that the field has leveled there with the release from the other brands and their new mirrorless designs costing as much and sometimes more. It's just the new normal and shouldn't be compared to DSLR designs I believe. It's like the Lumix 50mm F1.4. Everybody were shocked at the price and weight and now with CaNikon releasing similar lenses at similar prices and sizes, it's all "normal".
Thanks again for a good review/overview of the lenses. Depending on price, I believe with longer focal lengths and better faster AF it may very well be worth paying the extra, though the 24-70 is twice the price of the Sigma 24-70.
Thanks for all your kind words.
Keep me updated with your findings of the 14-24. I thought about going for that as well and it wasn’t the auto focus that swayed me as much as there not being a easy way to use my variable ND filters. If I didn’t have to do video so much I wouldn’t have minded... I still want that lens though ... I want one of everything .
We all want one of everything ;-)
The lens is fantastic, that's my first impression. I had a m43 setup with pretty much the best Pro glass from Olympus and Panasonic ranging from 24 to 600mm in FF terms. In pure sharpness, so far, the Sigma 14-24 DG DN is up there with the very best of them, if not better. I'd say it easily goes head to head with the Panasonic Leica 42,5mm F1.2 stopped down.
Having said that, it's like you say, it's a photographers lens since it's near impossible to use variable ND filters on it. I ordered the rear filter kit and will see how that works today but it's for photo only, or very controlled video I suppose. I can't imagine running and gunning with a variable ND at 150mm size :-O
Keep up the good work :-)
All the lenses and no b roll?! :(
I'm gonna update this video, this was when i was more nooby
A lot of bread spent for those babies!
very true, one wedding video dedicated to paying for them all.
I-WANT! as I have the S1 x
Payl Nyles I love them, I have a in-depth review of the 16-35mm F4 uploading right now .
Hey hope all is good! Right now I have 24-105 f4 thinking of updating to 24-70 s pro 2.8 or buying the 16-36 f4 s pro. How much better is the 24-70 2.8 s pro over the kit for video ? Or do you think it is a better route to go with the 16-35 f4 ?
I would first cover all the missing focal lenghts before thinking to replace something....
Excellent content thank you
thank you
Hmm 20-60 or 16-35 f4..
The 16-35mm F4 is in a different class of its own.
If you need more lenses and your own a budget and mostly do photo go with the 20-60mm it will be fine.
But if want a near perfectly crafted 16-35mm go with Lumix.
I just finished a video shoot with this tonight. I needed some more reach so I put the camera in super 35 mode and turned into a 24-52.5mm
I only wish they'd have a 16-35mm F2.8. 😍 (using Sigma 16-28mm instead)
And maybe a 20-70mm F2.8. 😇🤗
I love the Sigma 24-70. Phenomenal lens. Horrible auto-focus. Doubt it's the fault of the lens, definitely the limitation of the camera.
Sure wish Panasonic had release the 16-35 f/2.8 first! 😔 Maybe they'll release it as a 14-35. As a primary photographer, I need good AF and the Sigma has problems with AF.
Keith Spurlock
A 14 or 15-35 with a filter thread would be amazing
you need to show footage captured through using these lenses. you can just out your info over that.
Never ever go the Canon lens route because the devil in that is then you would realize that Canon bodies are also better and cheaper and AF is a world better using Canon native lens that make you want to ditch L mount altogether and go full Canon.
A poor selection of focal lengths. The 16-35 almost doubles half of the reach of 24-70. Instead of doubling the 35/28/24 part of the 24-70 why not make a 14-24? And instead of doubling the 24mm part why not make a 28-105/2.8 and start the tele zoom from 120? 120-300/2.8 anyone? Sigma does think so!
It Wasn’t a recommendation as much as a review of the Lumix Trinity in its current state. You could get more flexibility with a 14-28 2.8 but and over all it’s a good choice if your willing to lose the better autofocus and have color amongst glass starting to vary. It’s a choice and work flow, “the trinity” is always talked about as these which is what I’m reviewing.
Too expensive. I prefer to buy Canon or Sony, even Olympus.
Or Leica 16-18-21 WATE isn’t cheap but sexy!