Diana Tells The Queen About The BBC Interview | The Crown (Elizabeth Debicki, Imelda Staunton)
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- My dears, watch as these two powerhouses, Diana (Elizabeth Debicki) and Queen Elizabeth (Imelda Staunton), debate calmly but with conviction about Diana's place within the monarchy and the reason behind her choice to do the BBC interview.
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Do you think Diana went too far?
😂 no it was the truth
she did what was right.
Yes. Above all else she should have thought of her children who would grow up to see how ugly their parents were to each other. Everyone involved behaved badly at some stage. She needs to take responsibility for that too, instead of manipulating the media to make herself out to be this fragile victim. I understand she was manipulated herself by Basheer, but it was a terrible mistake she herself regretted eventually. Unfortunately her son has the same petty, vindictive and impulsive streak she did, and look how it’s turned out for him. Only now does he possibly see what a mess he’s made of his life.
@@graphiquejack Very well said! I agree with your post. To be honest with you I would imagine that most people from time to time see that they have "made a mess of their lives". Sad. If Charles and Diana and Camilla could go back in time how would they "fix stuff "? Not everything could be blamed on Charles and Camilla's infidelity or Diana's youth....
Emotionally depressed egoistic family. Queen Elisabeth didn't care about people. Just her reputation. Wearing stolen treasures from colonies. Is far worse than exposing truth. Elisabeth is the mentally manipulating Diana. Her partner is a nazi sympathizer with blood relatives married to nazi leaders.
these are GOOD actors! the 'queen' actually sounds like the late queen.
The actress playing the queen did an excellent film on abortion many years ago.
Vera Drake. Imelda Staunton was nominated for an Oscar.
No disrespect and it’s just my opinion but I felt Claire Foy and Olivia Colman were both better suited for the role of Queen and their voices were probably the biggest reason. We all interpret things differently of course. I found myself losing interest in this series slowly but surely starting with Season 5. Too many actor changes. Again, I understand the reasons for it and I absolutely loved this show for a long time. Very well done overall.
Imelda Staunton is such a great actrtess.
In my opinion, she and Maggie Smith are Britain's best actresses!
@@barbie-li2995 And Dame Judi Dench!
She never should have done that interview, neither should have the Prince of Wales, now The King.
I agree. The Panorama interview, as well as Andrew Morton's book, set forth a chain of events that led to Diana's death. She died 20 months after that damned interview.
If anything it finally ended the marriage
@@kevq761 🤣😂what marriage are you talking about? A paper doesn't make a marriage.
@@potocatepetl oh yes it does, historically marriage was just that - a paper.
@@mariandown2327 they didn't marry centuries ago for this statement to make sense. He pretended to love her for the entire world to see and he brought innocent children into this world without a second thought. He is responsible for all the mess that came afterwards.
The personal, private, and professional landmines the Queen had to navigate on a daily basis makes her longevity as a successful Monarch all the more impressive.
She was a terrible ruler and worse leader. Ruined the lives of her own family members with her bad judgement.
I've always got the impression the queen tried to defend and help diana, but she was simply from a generation that doesn't do that huggy and everything is going to be okay type support.
The queen simply didn't know how to help her, kinda feel sorry for both of them.
An example of this is when Charles says when he needs cheering up he calls his mistress. The queen scolded him for it and told him to be more supportive of his wife
Then why didn't the queen want to give her a proper royal funeral? Why did the queen take 8 days before going to Aberfan? She never "ran" a country. She was just PR. More vacations than a retired monk.
@michelletodd4893 the Queen was someone who was "by the book". She expected for diana and fergie to be happy. They, after all were married to naval officers. She saw her parents as having a great marriage, as well as her father being a loyal naval officer. She saw the same thing in her own with Prince Philip.
@@branflakes12341 The Queen did not want to help her. It was not about her generation. We can’t blame her failures as a mother figure in her family on her generation. My Mum was of same generation and if she was that cold and uncomplimentary of her son, it would not be overlooked.
@@lekenaackerman9367 things much easier for the Queen and she never realized it.
@@MTknitter22 The royal family tried to make "things" easy for Diana ( and Fergie) but Diana needed her dramas and disagreements and attention and went to the press for her "support system". Behind the palace doors Diana was very mean spirited to former friends and family and staff members and married boyfriends and Fergie and fashion designers and former charities and....
The interviewer tricked Diana into giving that interview. He did the same to Michael Jackson.
@-ag. Martin Bashir was artificial and pushy and has probably lost a lot of credibility and respect over the years because Bashir wanted to lure not just Diana but maybe others. Creepy. Bashir was just thinking of advancing his career. He showed no signs of having any values or conscience or morals. Martin Bashir was ruthless and cut throat!
They thought the press would be on their side? Please.
But it was fair enough bcs she got to tell her side of the story. Bashir's actions and intentions might be wrong but the result was satisfaction for Diana atleast.
@@thechuckleshow2470 There are others involved here. Whenever Diana gave one of her interviews names did come up. Not everything can be blamed on Camilla and Charles infidelity or Diana's youth. Charles didn't bring out the fact that Diana brought her married boyfriends back to Kensington Palace and destroyed those innocent children and wives. Charles remained with his one true love, Camilla. Diana didn't want discretion - Diana needed revenges. Again, not everything can be blamed on Camilla and Charles infidelity and Diana's youth!!
@JoanMorrison-vq2jc Diana admitted to the affairs. Further, she grew up in a home where she was exposed to abuse over and over agiain. In the end, Charles and Camilla were in the wrong. They both were way older and knew better. They should have put their foot down. The Queen Mom supported the relationship. The Queen also put her foot down when it came to marrying who she wanted. They both used her as a shield and she was expected to remain steady and devoted to Charles and the crown.
The height difference between the 2 actresses is striking.
Queen Elizabeth was quite small
And Diana was very tall obviously. I once saw footage of the real Diana bowing to the emperor and empress of Japan, 2 short people. Diana had to take a deep lunge but it was graceful.@@martino2794
I saw the Queen and she was tiny
@@martino2794Elizabeth Debicki is also quite tall.
Yeah I met our late Queen and she was tiny, and I'm only a 5'9" guy!
The Diana’s were so good! Kudos to the casting director!
This show really cast Elizabeth in a positive light. From start to finish, I can't think of a single time they made her unsympathetic or in the wrong. Which is...suspicious.
An interesting take. I think the show, in general, casts her in an unflattering (at best) light. Someone who is emotionally distant from her family & arguably a poor mother. Someone who is out of touch with the common Briton, especially in the latter half of her reign. Someone who strives for quiet and tranquility yet unwilling to resolve the issues that create turmoil & chaos. Keeping in mind that the show is more fiction than reality, we can debate the causes of her personality & decision making but I finished the series with a sense of sadness - that while she was good at her day job, her family life suffered because of her (in)actions.
@@robertdickson9319 and it's all presented in a "oh wow, how hard for her" manner every time.
It must have been so difficult for Her late Majesty to understand the public airing of grievances when she had been brought up to just remain silent and manage through.
How terrible for Diana , Charles, and Camilla. They should have never forced him away from Camilla. He loved her for years before he met Diana. Charles and Diana should’ve never been married. I know this isn’t going to be a popular opinion, but there it is.
@starjumper2000. Very very well said! I agree. It wasn't an arranged marriage but it seemed like a deranged marriage! Your post was so refreshing! I don't understand this love festival for Diana. I see it coming out more and more now for Kate. Kate wouldn't have married William if William was a butcher or a baker or a candle stick maker.
I agree 100%. It was basically an arranged marriage. The one thing the Queen got wrong.
If Charles loved Camilla so deeply, he ought to have married her before she married someone else. If Camilla loved Charles so deeply, she ought to have waited until Charles was ready. They both need to accept responsibility.
@@artforlifeladyIn addition to the other thing she got wrong- raising her children without love and warmth. Another thing she got wrong is organising the dismissal of Australia’s Prime Minister, Mr Gough Whitlam.
Charles wanted to marry Camilla way back when, but his Godfather, Lord Mountbatten, was against it and convinced Charles, who respected him more than his own father, and the Queen and PP to go along...he didn't think Camilla was good enough or pretty enough for him...and Camilla ended up quickly moving on and married, basically the first person to come along and started a family...then shortly thereafter, it's horrible to say, but Lord Mountbatten was assassinated....of course, how would Charles know that was going to happen....
NOT ONCE
Such great acting from both actresses . Looks so realistic. Poor Princess Diana . All she wanted was to be loved and accepted by the royal family. She had a beautiful aura. May she always rest in peace. Ameen 😢
This scene got me choking on all the gaslight fumes
I do understand where you are coming from but Diana was known to be an incredibly irritating attention seeker.
3:51
THEY BROUGHT PRINCESS DIANA BACK TO FVCKNG LIFE! THE RESEMBLANCE IS UNCANNY!
I think she's definitely taller than the real Diana though
Calm fury from Her Majesty.
Such a captivating upload.
Such a devastating scene! Truly makes me wonder if Diana did go to warn Her Majesty before the interview and if she did, I can absolutely see the Queen and Diana having this very conversation. How much did Diana regret in that moment? Would she take it back if she could after? And then the fact she was manipulated into the interview. Al the stuff not being said here. Fascinating! The Crown is truly sublime.
Diana didn't go the the Queen to warn her before the interview. (Told by the staff of the palace)
@@vaibhavsharmafilms5866 Well said! The queen's staff provided any information they had to her as quickly as possible I'm guessing.
I think if the queen had been wiser 20 years before the marriage, she would’ve treated Diana with much more protection, consideration and respect, I also think if she wouldn’t have been advised or influence, she would’ve probably been much more a mother figure to her. Things might’ve been very differently, but history is sadly a game that is watched from the backseat.
I think she would have pushed harder for the marriage with Charles and Camilla
Diana was divorced and had no right to get the privilege of royal protection..
@@fahimfaisalmahir567 I recently heard that the palace wanted to keep up the protection of Diana. The courtiers probably thought that since Diana's son was the future King of England that she should be safe. Diana refused the protection! Maybe she wanted to be on her own again for attention and drama. Diana made over 300 phone calls to Oliver Hoares home in the wee hours of the morning sitting outside his house!!! WHERE WERE HER BODY GUARDS?!! Scotland Yard had to get involved with Oliver Hoares frightened wife. Diana was emotionally unstable...
Respect is earned.
Very true. Diana was a supernova star and Queenie did not see it.
❤🎉❤🎉. No one can break up a happy marriage.
well, the groom in this case could have avoided the "unhappy" marriage if he had any gram of brain, empathy or care for his young bride. But the only thing that he cared for was to be seen as a king...
@@potocatepetl Good point here. But be careful. The same can be blamed on Diana's dark and deep desire to be Princess of Wales and eventually queen according to her own family and friends since her childhood. TITLES were important for Fergie and Megan Markle too ( and especially "Waity Katie" ). Most women wouldn't wait 9 years to marry a man. Had William been a butcher or a baker or a candle stick maker would Kate have waited nine years? Fergie and Megan Markle wanted a title also although they did marry a lot sooner than William and Kate. I can't judge their hearts but I think love came in second place for William and Harry and Andrew and Charles. I could see what the men go through. Sad. No one wants to be USED!
Diana's pain can be felt in this scene
HER PAIN ?! SHE WAS LYING IN THIS INTERVIEW TO DAMAGE THE REPUTATION OF CHARLES ! HER INTENTION WAS TO MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE
FOR CHARLES TO BECOME KING ! DIANA WAS AN IMMATURE GIRL WHO REFUSED TO GROW INTO THE ROLE SHE MARRIED INTO.
BECAUSE OF HER, THE MONARCHY HAS TURNED INTO A SOAP OPERA !
@christianliechtenstein4879. Very very well said!!! I agree. Diana wanted this to be her Cinderella Era. Grow up or don't take on this enormous obligation to the monarchy and the public. I'm not sure if these scenes are accurate or scripted but you made a valid point. Diana handled herself badly and yet the public out-cry should have been loud and clear in the early 1980's when she was engaged to someone who was much older.
Not everything can be blamed on Camilla and Charles infidelity. Not everything can be blamed on Diana's youth either. Diana just wanted a fairytale - wake up!!
@asadurrehmanawan. Diana was a PAIN!!! Diana GAVE a lot of pain....
I felt the Queen’s pain
Bedankt voor de geweldige video! 🇳🇱
Two great actresses.
2:29 nnnnot OONNNCE!
The Queen was already used to dealing with difficult relatives from an early point. Her sister, Princess Margaret, was more than a handful.
These actresses are superb. Well done.
I have often wondered if the feeling portrayed here by the queen were rather accurate. Prince Philip was truly mad as in effectionate for Diana continued till the divorce and she started giving public interviews and I've often wondered if Charles power with literally creating the most powerful money worth position in the royal family and his personal hostility towards her was misrepresented of the entire family.
If you think I'm wrong, the last prince of Wales had roughly 1 million pounds when he left his role. He hid it of course. Now, the property incomes alone associated with the Dutchy of Cornwall are rumored to be worth billions.
Congratulations you did have time to think about your anniversary, your majesty
Poor Diana was not a good fit for that family. She was too young to know what she was truly marrying into.
No they didn’t deserve her
@@Christi-bt5ef Not a question of deserving. Just a bad match from both sides from the start.
@@gabrieleortiz5041 yes. Remember the Muslim doctor she was deeply in love with but he would not marry her? He and his family realized she had big problems and although he loved her, he understood marriage is serious and Diana was all about HER needs.
@@AndyBluebear-fi9om think of this perspective they manipulated her. I’m Team Diana
@@Christi-bt5ef I'm not sure they did...but she was manipulated into giving the interview.
What a well written scene
Did this conversation really happend back in the day?
Holy smokes she sounds just like Diana
I had nothing but respect for Diane,
She was young and nieve when she got married,only one mistake was to speak to reporters about her marriage.
3:09
“…it it?”
That moment 4:37 when the camera goes far away from their face is terrifying, it almost felt real
The sad truth is, Diana was probably never going to be happy.
Maybe, Diana didn't want to be happy. Her dramas got her more attention. Her instability got her more press coverage. Master manipulator!!
It’s wasn’t hostility they felt. They felt nothing. They were callous, self serving & remote..
If the real Diana was as high maintenance as portrayed in The Crown.....she should have been institutionalized.....a preemptive view of Harry.
Right after William was born. Then Harry would not have happened.
She went too far . Not fair for her children
Yes it was an incredibly selfish thing to do to her children, esp William who was at such an awkward age. Did she even brother to tell him in person before it aired?
Do they ever turn the lights on in those palaces or is it just the stage props ?
I highly doubt the Queen ever spoke so coldly to Diana. I feel this show is over exaggeration of these two characters. Queen might was unable to understand her but i don't think so she was that rude.
Diana's character was also over exaggerated and somewhere crossed the line. She never would vote a NO for manarchy as shown in the show. She herself said in the panorama interview that how can she destroy the establishment her son's future depend upon.
@thechuckleshow2470 you'd be surprised. She had her dad in her. Meaning, she was more than capable of showing emotion. She and Diana didn't really get along. But, she was the queen. 🤷🏿♀️
Defence out of obligation and not love is sort of irrelevant.
If this conversation had really happened, I can't imagine it being any different. The remorse that followed Diana's death by the Royal family must've been dreadful to cope. Debicki and Imelda were impeccable.
its funny you think Elisabeth would have had more sympathy after all how many time a people did Phillip cheat on her with. How many times did she over look it since she wanted him demanded him threw a tantrum to marry him until everyone gave in. she always seemed to forget no one wanted her to marry Phillip because of the STRONG ties his family had with the Nazis as in he met the head crazy many times close. she was a great queen but like all people made a sh*t ton of mistakes. the problem was her word was law in her family if she said no you can't get married they couldn't so she broke up couples many times and then was shocked at the outcome and how they behaved like she didn't have an ounce of guilt for it when she held her breath to marry the man she wanted but couldn't allow others to do the same.
I hope the Queen told Harry about his interview he did like this or did she keep quiet.
As much as people say, she was tricked into doing that interview, she wasn't held at gunpoint either. All she thought about was herself and she did not blend in well with people who were more dedicated to the Commonwealth. She needed professional therapy.
Apparently she refused.
😊😊😊😊👑
She did it in secret. This scene is not real
Yes, correct. This is a fictional television show.
@@jasonkoch3182 I was wondering if Diana did it in secret because she liked to pull the carpet out from under people - but don't do that to Diana! It's a one way street. That would be a no no...😮😮😮
No...my understanding was this did actually happen...Diana even arranged the broadcast date as a surprise for the then prince Charles birthday and the queen and prince philips anniversary...
The gaslighting of it all..”no,it’s in your head, it’s always been in your head”.. diana was no saint and did some questionable things but to say she had not suffered is simply untrue.
Im no longer a royalist. Once the events of Aug 31, 1997 occured, something in me made to lose respect and admiration for the crown
Why? Do you think they are responsible for a drunk driver getting behind the wheel of a car and driving 100 kph through city streets?
I doubt any of these conversations really happened with Diana and The Queen because the princess knew what she was doing to create as much publicity as possible.
Also, as this fictional show does NOT explain, Prince Charles tried during the early years of his marriage to get Diana all the help she needed. He hired therapist after therapist, but Diana ultimately refused treatment. That isn't entirely her fault: from personal experience I know that therapy for mental illness is Very, VERY hard and difficult to do. But if you refuse it, you refuse the treatment. Diana also refused psychiatric medicine because of the stupid false stereotype that psychiatric meds implies that you're "doing drugs". We can see where she's coming from, but, for this woman to EVER have implied that no one tried to help her is BEYOND a lie. She could just never, ever accept that anything, anything was partially her fault.
I also think she had post partum depression with one child. She also had anorexia nervosa.
@@user-og2wt3le4jYes
He was severely gaslighting her in their marriage and all those supposed therapists were to reinforce that. Ending his extra-marital affair and not being a spoiled brat who resented his wife for being popular would have been a far more genuine and fruitful attempt to help. I understand Charles has spent the past years putting considerable effort and money into his false victimhood PR - but I CANNOT understand people actually buying that about ‘Prince’ “do you seriously expect me to be the first Prince of Wales in history not to have a mistress?”. We also have video evidence of how much he has publicly humiliated Diana such as their engagement interview or that time he ‘joked’ about having two wives. Pathetic.
@@user-og2wt3le4j No.. The late Princess of Wales was bulimic.. there is a big difference between the two disorders!
@@ElvenSkywalkerI think the only mistake Diana did was to think Charles was in love with her
I loved Diana like everyone else at the time, but in hindsight, it was clear she had massive mental health problems, was headstrong and would do anything to get her own way, including shooting herself in the foot. While she may have won the battle of public opinion at the time, her cooperating with Andrew Morton with his book and then the BBC interview, she was the author of her own demise which lead to her divorce and ultimate death. And as a result, she left her two boys without a mother and Camilla as Queen of England. What a horrific, needless tragedy.
@01Mary02. Very well said!! I agree with your points here 🙂. Diana also just married Charles for a title and according to her family and friends Diana wanted to be princess of Wales since her childhood. Hmmm. And the same for Waity Katie and Me-gain and Fergie and...
@@JoanMorrison-vq2jc I don't think she married Charles just for a title. I do believe she loved him but it was a fantasy-romantic love straight out of Disney and she had no idea how to make a successful marriage. And while I never liked Fergie and thought she was a disaster as a member of the RF, I do believe she genuinely loved Andrew.
@@01Mary02
And still does.
@@01Mary02 I think Sarah hangs on to Andrew because it's some link to the royals - as If Sarah is tenacious and holds on to the past. I also think even though they are officially divorced Sarah and Andrew want to be with their daughters but their daughters have their own families so it makes me wonder what keeps Andrew and Fergie together? Neither one of them have any serious relationships. Hmmm. "Lady" Diana? Well I still see her as USING Charles. She knew Charles wouldn't let go of Camilla so why go through with this artificial relationship? Back out - I think it would have been difficult but she would have gotten herself out of a lot of sorrow and been happier with someone who was devoted. Again, I think Diana was using Charles. I admire Chelsea Davey when she told Harry she wasn't going to put up with the media circus and so they ended it. Me-gain was the opposite ( like Waity Katie ) she took on the challenges and did whatever she wanted to do. In my opinion only....
@@JoanMorrison-vq2jc I think Andrew & Sarah really do love each other. I don't like either of them, but they seem to want to stick with each other. As far as Diana is concerned, she was too young and too emotionally damaged to be able to be a good wife, especially as Charles was also emotionally damaged from his childhood. He couldn't give her what she needed and she couldn't give him what he needed.
I believe Catherine really does love William, but I don't think Meghan has ever loved Harry. He was simply a tool for her to get that worldwide fame she's been after her whole life.
As the Queen said what Diane is saying is repetitive, King Charles when he was a Prince, Fergie, Megan, Harry, and probably others. If there is no time or empathy for close Family members or staff there is something sadly lacking in that institution they revere so much. People have to remember the Queen was brought up by her grandmother, Queen Mary and the Queen's mother who were extremely rigid in their 20th Century culture when marriage had to be endured whatever the circumstances. The Queen had a difficult marriage herself and she did not attend school or university so its amazing how astute and successful she was in her reign. She set a high bar for her successors to achieve. Rest in Peace Queen Elizabeth😢
The queen had a tailored education by many tutors because her career was by the age of 10. She had a very successful marriage with Philip. All of the rumors of strife between the two of them are just idle gossip. They had a normal marriage and Philip was faithful to the end. accusations of affairs are simply ridiculous
@@marielfalk4537 people like you who are continual deny of reality are the main cause of stress and problems in families. You need to do a bit more research and reading instead of looking through rose tinted glasses.
I think she expected Diana to act like an adult when all she was was a selfish, damaged child.
Diana was a bit off..
She had mental health issues.
@@user-og2wt3le4j Diana knew what Diana was doing. Devious ditz!
This actress has got Diana’s voice down Pat
Sometimes you get feeling that The Netflix n The Royal Household did cut a deal to make this series… to kinda open them up to us;)
Or ruin or build the image of few characters. (Queen's image was ruined I think and they tried to build Charles and Camilla's image)
Queen Elizabeth did not want Diana to be happy. Queen Elizabeth wanted Diana to choose service and duty over happiness. That was instilled into Queen Elizabeth from the moment she was born. Unfortunately, that was not instilled into Princess Diana. I don't think either woman was wrong. I think both women came from different eras in their life. I am 61 years old and my era was to protect the family image at all cost. So I can relate to Queen Elizabeth. However, this generation as well as Diana's generation could care less about the protection and image of the family. I have since now come to believe that there has to be a balance . If that protection is causing you unbearable pain and suffering, revealing the truth is better than a lifetime of misery. I watched my sister spiral into drugs protecting the secrets of the family. Death became her only peace.
The British are cultists of the Queen, even the most poor and under the bus Britons venerate the queen, to me, very far removed from that world, think that the queenie was full of herself.
OH I SMELL A HARRY AND MEGHAN .. HERE …. They did the same thing too
That told her then. Silly woman. Diana I mean.
Poor Diana ! Famous and loved by the world but so unhappy in personal life .
@gmvn19. Diana treated people in her personal life like dirt! Behind closed doors she wasn't on speaking terms with her family and Charles and her mother and friends and Fergie and staff members and fashion designers and charities and the queen and members of the royal family and...
And Harry carries on with the same narrative 🤦♀️
The poor queen had to deal with drunk Margaret, the mentally unstable Diana and then the most horrible of all the narcissist Nutmeg. May the queen RIP
On the contrary. The Queen shafted Margaret by preventing her happy marriage to Peter Townsend, Equerry (Aide de Camp) to her father, while banishing him to a distant post never to see Margaret again. She drove Margaret to drink. Margaret was more beautiful and would have made a much better Queen being smart, saucy, pretty, and very charismatic as opposed to stodgy Elizabeth. More hypocrisy by Queenie when her daughter Anne, married the Equerry to Queen Elizabeth, Mark Phillips. The exact scenario again but this time Elizabeth did not prevent the marriage by threatening to cut off Anne from the royal family and funds if she married an Equerry. How's that for hypocrisy?
Elizabeth was a terrible mother to Charles, who grew up very unhappy with little contact from his mother. She forced Charles to marry Diana who he did not love, and give up Camilla, who was the love of his life. This caused a huge rift between Diana and Charles. Diana divorced him, and was so desperately unhappy with royal servants spying on her and reporting back to Queenie, and being made to follow Charles around and not be free. This caused her to escape to other places and caused her demise. Charles ended up marrying Camilla after she was divorced from her husband. So now, Charles married a divorcee, but became king. How ironic because King Edward, Duke of Windsor had to abdicate when he married a divorcee. Isn't that bald faced hypocrisy by Queenie? Charles should be disqualified from being king since he married a divorcee too. Right? For all her disapproval of Diana, Queenie did not realize that her own star was dimmed by the brilliant light of Diana in the public relations dept. Diana was a supernova star on the world stage. Elizabeth paled by comparison. Diana could do more for the royal family than all the other members combined. She was never utilized for PR, given any respect, and made happy. So very stup*id of Queenie. Diana was never mentally unstable. She was a rock of endurance and tenacity.
The Queen also was responsible for splitting up Fergie and Andrew who still love each other, and still live under one roof while being divorced on paper to suit the Queen. Andrew ended up a Pedo, and guess who brought him up? Yes, Your Queenie. Pedo son. But she forgave him and paraded him in visible royal public events. Hmmm.
Finally, not having done enough mischief and damage to people's lives, Queenie managed to ruin her grandson's life with his new wife, Meghan. Harry was the spare, it mattered not one bit who he married. But nasty racist stuff about Meghan was published to the press by Charles, William, Camilla with Queenie's approval. This was a young couple starting out on their life, deeply in love, Meghan was a few years older and had the right mothering touch for Harry who lost his mum early in life. Meghan was a brilliant PR move for the royal family because she was non-White and this was a way to connect to all non-White people from previous colonies and empires. Meghan was the new Diana in fact. If Queenie had been smart and seen that, she would have used Meghan & Harry for all the tours in places like India, Africa, South America, etc. You had two sets of young royals: Will & Kate, Harry & Meg that would have injected life back into a dying institution that is more a habit than a need or desire. But again, Elizabeth showed poor judgement and banished them into exile, cutting off all funding and even security for their family. Absolutely damning move. A very politically damaging move too. Now you have Kate with cancer occupying William, and no Harry as backup, and Charles too old to do anything, with a wife everyone has not forgiven. See how badly this Queenie rules?
Meghan is not a Narcissist. She is a self made, hard working woman who became a successful actress and has now snagged a top royal as her husband. She has made a lovely family, they support themselves with no parasitic living off British taxpayers. She has a loving relationship with her mother, Doria, and has cut off her half siblings and father who are frankly an embarrassment to themselves and trying to make money off her fame. Her sister, Samantha wrote a nasty book about Meghan for no reason at all. Did Meghan do anything to any of them? No. She kept to herself and she has a right to choose her friends. They have no right to defame her and Harry. Harry won his lawsuit against the British press, which proves they wrote lies.
Anything else you want to be combative about? You are short on facts, and big on myths. Wake up and adjust to reality. The queen was a political disaster. She had no head for leadership or knowing who would be the best political allies in the royal family. She chased away three brilliant stars: Margaret, Diana, Meghan. She probably felt threatened by each of them. She tried to destroy them. Margaret died so conflicted. She loved her sister, but her sister tore up her romance. Diana died hounded by the press and made to look like the wandering wife, when in fact, it was Charles who was wandering into Camilla's garden. Meghan came with so much hope and wanting to please the royals, but she was humiliated, snubbed, and disrespected by them all till Harry had to leave to save his marriage. So, how smart is that for a political ruler whose only job is PR for the press? Elizabeth was a useless ruler and lousy leader.
Twisted reality.
lol this was later copied by Meghan Markel on Oprah 😂 Megan knew nothing about the royal family…. She just wanted to be the new Princess Diana 2.0😂
Do we still think the Royal Family has nothing to do with Diana's death?
That family was horrible to her. But I think it's sink or swim for anyone going into that family. I don't know why anyone would want to be a princess.
The palace made Diana out to be an attention seeking monster. Diana's relationship with Charles was abusive and the sooner she escaped the better. RIP Diana.
Diana was abusive to everyone around. Charles loved and still loves Camilla. Diana wrecked marriages and had it off with as much as she could. Sweet Diana? No wa.
The Queen was raised to be Queen…. She was trained to be superior and not to be concerned about others feelings.. she put her position over her love for her sister when she wanted to marry and she wanted Charles to marry ANYONE so the monarchy would survive.. Diana was merely a “brood mare” for the Palace and when she got more popular and loved by the public, she became a “problem”.. I fear the same for the new Princess of Wales… all outside the direct “bloodline” are expendable. They wanted the “spare” Harry out of the picture and away from the secrets held in the Palace.. pressured him and his new wife to go far away..if he gets access, the secrets get out. Been going on for centuries..
That's how big institutions survive.
The broodmare accusation always amuses me. If I had a broodmare that only gave me ONE legitimate offspring from my royally bred stallion, and a second foal from the plowhorse down the road, I would be tempted to sell her or at least lock her up so that she could not do that again.
Queen Charlotte had 15 children, Queen Victoria 9, Queen Alexandra 6. No one referred to them as broodmares, even though in their cases, it would have been understandable.
Princess Margaret was allowed to marry but on the condition that she became an ordinary person. Margaret chose the title and money ver love.
Outrageous. Diana would never have approached The Queen without proper respect,she would never have sat down while Her majesty the Queen was standing. What rubbish. Who made this ridiculous version. The Late Princess of Wales had respect for the Late Queen,,she have followed protocols.
its cringy for a normal folk listen The Queen said they are busy scheduled ppl barely have time for own family. like what busy schedule? hunting deer in the woods?
although The Queen & Royal member deserved the respect but from a peasant Pov, they never busy.
Exactly.Lmao all the talk about being busy, doing duties, what duties bruh? Drinking tea and waving.
Why don't you check out the work that she did. Royal engagements, meetings,etc. More than any work mad executive deals with.
See above. You lot are clueless.
Would love to have seen Meghans face when she watched this
And this scene shows where Harry gets his selfish, narcissistic & vile ways from - his late mom
We love a gaslighting Queen
lmaooooooo my thoughts too
Seriously...............
I’m sorry but the queen was absolutely trying to gaslight Diana here, she treated her awfully as much as Charles has
She would of been a good queen like Elizabeth
Would have*, not would of
@@peter0010 go away
@@gailplatt1Haha
and to think that ninny now gets to wear the crown and cavort with the horsey mistress
That large room looks bleak.
Oh Lordy, Nutmeg is going to be quoting Diana down the road.
@sundog3150 why do you all constantly bring them up in conversations that have nothing to do with them? This proves their point over and over again...
Poor Diana. Her fate was sealed after this.😢
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the definition of gaslighting. RIP Diana, you deserved so much better than those ennui- filled, over privileged cold false figureheads.
Diana never deserved a prince.
@@fahimfaisalmahir567 You are spot on as usual!!! Well said 😅😅! Diana wouldn't have looked at Charles twice if he was a butcher or a baker or a candle stick maker. Megan Markle reminds me of Diana! Waity Katie USED William too.
Best gaslighting scene from that old biddy Elizabeth to young Diana. Here she is thrust into a dysfunctional family where MIL tells her to suck it up and never has time to talk, Charlie her husband is out watering Camilla's garden, FIL (Father in law) lectures her about her role in The Family, and not a single member on her side in her battles to have a normal happy domestic life. The only use Charlie had for her was to procreate and make an heir and a spare and play the role of a pretty companion at public functions. Meanwhile, he was having an intense affair with Camilla.
Now we see, long after Diana's death, that Harry, who is very much like his mother, being gaslighted by Camilla, William, and Charlie. He was thrown out of his house Frogmore Cottage where he spent his money fixing it up, his wife was not welcomed, an incessant stream of bullying began, racist stories were fed to the press by the palace using them as scapegoats. Only those of us who have lived in dysfunctional families, see this clearly. Harry had to either play the doormat and have his wife shamed and suffer a relationship crack and suck it up, or get the hell out and keep his sanity and his wife. He chose the latter. Brave man. This is a den of vipers, feeding on public funds, super rich, and making their own clan members deeply unhappy.
Elizabeth managed to ruin:
1. Phillip's life by taking away a lot of his autonomy and being pressured by her cabinet and other stuffed shirts.
2. Margaret's life by not letting her marry Peter Townsend when they loved each other
3. Charles' life by not approving of Camilla, forcing him to choose Diana, and then lead a double life with two women
4. Harry's life by throwing him and Meghan to the wolves. No security, no money, no family. Wow.
5. Kate suffered her share of shaming publicly when she first came on the scene.
6. Made Andrew divorce Sarah Ferguson, even though they still have an ongoing relationship.
However, she continued to protect Andrew the Pedophile and made all the stories go away. I never thought much of her. She was a frumpily dressed tyrant at 5' 4" and 154 lbs with a BMI of 26.4 which is overweight. She hung on to her crown till she died at almost 100 yrs. She should have passed on that crown to Charles when he was in his prime but she loved power. She was not nice to her first born, Charles, and left him emotionally crippled so he had to pick a mother figure in Camilla. I'm glad she is gone. An awful person to her own family. She was way behind the times. At Diana's funeral, the world wept. At E's funeral, everyone showed up as protocol but no one wept.
Diana is 35 in this scene..
@@fahimfaisalmahir567 Well said!! I agree with your posts and comments. You know your stuff! 😉😉
What a load of unfounded nonsense: there are countless videos to be found on RUclips which show that many people wept and were deeply saddened by the death of her late majesty.
So it seems to me that your assertion that the Queen wasn’t genuinely mourned by her people - rather like everything else you said - flies in the face of the evidence and is verifiably inaccurate.
I’d suggest you check your facts before letting loose on your keyboard in future, but then again I suspect you’re the kind person who doesn’t let facts get in the way of a good story; fiction seems to be your forte.
@@ForGodAndTheEmpire Anyone who believes in gods and empires are living in the past. A dark past where 'empires' consisted of enslaving other countries and using god as justification, much the same way that kings use god to say they were 'ordained by god to serve'. What hogwash. If god exists or gods exist, they are not there to be used by some humans to lord it over others. Empires are nothing more than large plantations with slaves. You enslave a whole country and make them work for your country, and treat their people like slaves. So much for you and your views.
There was much fanfare about Elizabeth passing. This was state organized and in this big hoopla, people were seen weeping mostly out of habit. On the other hand, when Diana died, people really wept and were deeply upset, myself included. Diana did a lot of good in the world in her short life, was a great mother, and a great lady. Elizabeth was a terrible mother, we can see the effects on her children who are emotionally crippled. Diana cared deeply about her family, her kids and her causes. Elizabeth did what was demanded of her and did not shed any tears for Diana either. She did her duty, that is all. Well, if you want a free parasitic living, you have to do your duty. She was a terrible MIL to Diana. If I had a child that was in distress, bulemic, and terribly unhappy, I would cancel everything to be with them, not tell them I was busy. So get YOUR facts in line, ducky. Now go make me a sandwich.
Not just Andrew the pedophile. I'll quote Charles himself, he said Diana was an attractive 16 year old while he was 30 and married her when she was 19 and he was 32 . 🤢
I do believe that Diana was just used to embarrass the Royal family. She didn’t really know the gravity of what she was doing. She was hurt; and felt the need to set matters right on what happened.
😢😢😢. Diana often said, "I'm petrified of the queen". Ummm. Judging from this conversation and the "stuff" Diana did I doubt she was "petrified". Unless she was either brave or just stupid!! It takes guts to stand up to people but Diana didn't know when to stop. I don't think the palace was trying to hurt Diana I think the palace was trying to STOP Diana from all these unnecessary interviews! Not everything can be blamed on Camilla and Charles infidelity and Diana's youth.
Unnecessary interviews??? She literally exposed the royals for being awful people especially to her, she admitted Charles was cheating on her, she admitted to marrying into a establishment instead of a family,
Yes, this show did over exaggerate things and we will never know if this conversation really did happen but still, Diana had every right to expose Charles for being a cheating scumbag
@@brendenreecegaming284 Unnecessary. I hope your wife or girlfriend never exposes you. Diana was an evil thing 😭.
@@brendenreecegaming284 Every action has its consequence and God made sure Diana pay every inch of it..
I've noticed you've made a great deal of negative comments at different times about Diane. You're obviously jealous of her. Diana was beautiful inside and out. Loved by more people than the queen given the number of people who watched Diana's funeral. Diana's funeral was viewed by 32 million in the UK. The Queen's funeral viewed by 28 million in the UK. In the United States, Diana's was viewed by 33.2 million. The Queen's 11.4 million. She was Really Really Loved. So move on. 🙄
@@prall0915 That’s television data. Now people have access to Internet live streaming as well. Millions of people watched it on RUclips which wasn’t an option back then. So TV viewership was less. Queen’s funeral viewcount s 4.1 billion worldwide considering all platforms which made it the most watched event in the history while Diana’s funeral viewcount is just 2.5 billion.
Camilla would never do that ❤
@aezekielbertand809. I agree. Well said. Camilla was smart and intelligent and in love with Charles. I think Diana must have thought "What!! ? Charles is in love with THIS ROTTWEILER over me, me, me, me"!!!? Diana's head was enormous back then. Disgraceful Diana.😢😢
@@JoanMorrison-vq2jc It's a shame that it all happened but let's not forget that even though Diana had lovers she was the wronged party. It's moot anyway. Charles got his precious Camilla, the queen is dead and now King Charles and Queen Camilla are in power. May God Bless Diana.
@@jaydavis8394 Hooray to HER ROYAL MAJESTY QUEEN CAMILLA 💖😊.
Nobody would care if Camilla did an interview
@@Rat_Queen86 Camilla wouldn't give an interview 😊😊.
How could Diana ever be content being married to someone like Charles and a adulterer as well very strange family dynamics
@TJ1920. Poor Charles. Diana just wanted a title. She wouldn't have looked at Charles twice if he was a butcher or a baker or a candle stick maker. And the same for Waity Katie and Me-gain and Fergie and...
Diana was also an adulterous. She completely blindsided the royal family with that interview. She of course later bitterly regretted doing it.
She met him at age 19 and was probably enamored with the 32 year old Prince of Wales. She probably loved him at the start. But the life of a Royal was too much for her.
Diana was the adulterer.
@@user-og2wt3le4j She pretended she liked the country persuits he liked to get him because she wanted to be a royal. She was a party girl. She wrecked marriages and was awful to people behind the scenes.
❤❤❤🎉🎉. According to family and friends Diana wanted to be princess of Wales since her childhood. She got it. I could be wrong but I'm guessing she wasn't in love with Charles. Diana wanted the title of Princess of Wales and eventually queen. She wanted balcony appearances and clothes and jewelry and vacations and notoriety and prestige and financial stability and handbags and respect and admiration and press coverage and to be in history books and should I go on? She got it. There was no need to write a book with Andrew Morton about Charles and the royal family and to take your married boyfriends back to Kensington Palace and I feel bad for their innocent wives and children. They should have gone on Oprah instead of Harry and Me-gain. Charles remained with his one true love Camilla. Diana was emotionally unstable and treacherous behind closed doors. I think the queen was very embarrassed and betrayed by Diana. I'm guessing Charles and Diana USED each other. Marriage is hard enough but when there's no love and compatibility it's much more difficult. All these interviews Diana gave were overwhelming for Diana's children and the public out-cry back then should have been very much against this union. Not everything can be blamed on Diana's youth and Charles and Camilla infidelity. Diana seems to be the cold and callous one, here. She appears to be a petulant two year old. She doesn't curtsey to the queen when the queen enters the room and then Diana sits down while the queen is still standing - no one asked her to take a seat and then Diana snaps at the queen as if she is having a street argument .😮😮. Again, not everything can be blamed on Diana's youth and Charles and Camilla's infidelity...
this is a fictional tv show dude we are not even sure if this ever happened😭😭😭
@@nana7451 This is the problem with Netflix The Crown. Accuracies are very important if not then actions and thoughts of the characters are a bit "off" to say the least. 😢😢😢
Yeah, l would say someone is bit off. 🙄
@@prall0915 Ahhh. Don't worry about it - it's not me or you, I'm sure. 😊😊
Absolute rubbish.
Charles should of never married Diana, but he was pressured by the Queen to do so.
What I can't fathom, is how William & Harry can except Camilla as thr step mother.
I know this is pure fiction, but the idea that the Queen is too busy to spare even 10 minutes with her daughter-in-law is a feeble excuse.
Diana was not a perfect angel. She made many mistakes.
Diana please get over yourself
Have never liked princess Diana, not even for a second.
What a crock of crap. All the queen really wanted was for Diana to "behave herself,...meaning "put up and shut up". Meanwhile Chuck was very happy with his permanent (even today!) side piece.
I will never refer to her as "Queen" Camilla.
WAS Diana really so much taller than the Queen? Looks grotesque.
The queen here is gaslighting.
Now we know the truth. Gaslighting much!
IT'S JUST A SHOW! 😂😂
Diana was a pro at playing the victim. That's where Harry got it from
This is the problem with the lower nobility and commoners; living the life of a royal IS NOT for amassing glory and or attention for yourselves. To be royal is a calling, to do 'The LORD's work' on Earth, and to preserve and perpetuate King David's bloodline as prophesied and promised. Royalty is not some tourist peculiarity but individuals called, chosen, and ordained in being 'anointed Servants of The LORD God.' Our Royal Person is grievously annoyed how much the common populace idol worship royal personages including those who have passed away. It is not wrong to hero-worship honourable people but to idol worship is High Treason against The Creator. STOP idol worshipping! And STOP being jealous or resentful towards wealthy people who live and or work in palaces. We all have tasks to fulfill on this Earth. We are not all equal so cease this fraudulent American way of thinking and political warfare in trying to force everyone to be alike or equal. There will always be a separation of classes because human society was structured to exist only under monarchial governance as it is in 'the Kingdom of Heaven.' People need to wake up and grow up. And furthermore, royalty should only marry royalty. Anything contrary to this only invites ongoing grief and strife no reasonable individual would ever want. God bless 'the Christian British Empire.'
Charles 1 lost his head because he thought he was endorsed by god. Inbreeding gave Andrew's daughter a bent spine.
@@deserteagle-nx1hl- 'Charles I' was murdered because he kept the nobility in check and wholly did not appreciate their attempts at diminishing God-ordained royal power.