Newsletter gang in the house. I still remember the short chat I had with Henry about me thinking I was sent the wrong color panels from Slate Black.. Yes that Henry returned my call immediately. Some how we got on the subject of the MP5K being unreliable when suppressed. Bought that locking piece but have yet to install and test.. Great video
I accidently clicked the wrong color when i ordered my panels. I got ahold of them and they swapped it and shipped in the same day. Couldn't ask for anything better!
@@Grafspee0 My issue was 100% me. I ordered the panels FDE (which I now have on all my M-Lok rifles) and it looked OD Green when I got them.. Sent a email.. got a call and when I answered.. I am like wait, I know that voice. Henry called me back and we had a great chat. He asked me to take the panels outside in the natural light, sure enough, in my office they looked OD take them outside in the FL sun.. they were FDE ..
@@floridahdshooter lol the same thing happened to me. When I first got them, they looked like some weird combo of chocolate brown + ODG, but I realized that was just because of the color of the lighting in my house. Well that and I'm also red-green colorblind lol
I attended an H&K MP-5 school back in '88. They had a sling set up that we adjusted to our particular build. We would extend the MP5 straight out and leveled just below our chin and ran the gun like a tank turret. As long as you kept your shoulders squared to the target and the muzzle directly beneath chin level, the rounds impacted where we were looking. It did not matter where the target was heighth wise, as long as you kept the muzzle parallel under you chin when you raised your head to look at the target you would hit it. They had a very challenging low light test on the run and full auto. the technique worked like a charm.
Just talked with James @ Teufelshund Tac and found him to be very knowledgeable and helpful. If you have MP5 or any other HK-related work, he is the man.
Newsletter gang, here for my firearms and tactics of history lessons. Love these informative videos about as much as the proper range videos, great work fellas.
A Practical Accuracy series featuring SMGs/PCCs like the MP5, Uzi etc might be interesting. Obviously not out to 500 yards like you do with the rifles, but perhaps evaluating the combat accuracy potential of pistol caliber weapons out to ranges of like 200 yards or something.
the roller locked system is so good in so many calibers, i really want to see a modernized version of the MP5 or CETME-L or G3 from the ground up, aka proper last round bolt hold open, better sight integration, triggers, etc
Love to see that this is still a very good PDW system all these years on! Can't wait for the P90 episode of this series, glad Henry busted out the hacksaw
Yes! YES!! YES!!! 1:24 - FINALLY the right pronunciation of ‚Teufelshund Tactical‘ - not even James Williamson get’s it right!! Thank you, Henry! Finally the cringing has an end… …and thank you for the superb content, as always. (wouldn‘t have expected anything else - linguistically and technically/historically)
@@ralphderkapitaen9875 The ergos are better but the plastic mags are crap and the hydraulic buffer doesn’t seem to do much to smooth out the recoil (at least it didn’t on the GHM9 I put about 4-5 mags through).
@@cletustheslackjawedyokel6083 forget the B&T mags. Get the one model with Glock mags and you are all set. Glock mags are great, durable, reliable and cheaper than the B&T..so win win..:-) I cant compare the GHM9, but I heard that the APC9 has got slightly softer recoil than the GHM9. You pay almost 1k more for APC9, so it better be better at something..:-) I think the APC9k (the short version) is the way to go. Especially, when compared to MP5 (or MP5k). Its cheaper, and overall wins on so many different things. MP5 has got a great history and is still a great gun, but is just behind on many things (got stuck in the 70's and didnt keep up with new developments). Still a great gun, but the APC9k is just better
Your production content, quality of filming, commentary and chemistry is all absolutely phenomenal. 9 Hole and Forgotten Weapons are some of my favorite places to get new content. This type of stuff should be on the History Channel in a perfect world.
I always love the MP5 in both design and aesthetics. The roller delayed blowback is very nice in impulse to me, especially if anyone has fired HK91s/G3s. I am so tempted to get a MP5 again haha. Damn you Henry and Josh... My wallet curses you... Awesome video y'all! Delivering the knowledge bombs and amazing gun pr0nz. XD
Great video guys! Back in the early 1990s, H&K sent 3 MP5s in 10mm for evaluation (a federal agency SOG). We really liked the performance and added ballistics, but unfortunately H&K ultimately decided not to go into production of the 10mm version.
Hi I'm from Germany and I have to say it catcht my attention how good you've spelled Heckler und Koch. The best I've heard from any English speaking person so far.
Hands down probably the best video I’ve seen all around in a long time. Straight facts about the system with the right amount shooting, and weapons manipulation. No filler or BS. Definitely subscribing. Great work good sir others should take note.
Phenomenal video as always. 30 minutes of literal MP5 porn and great info throughout. Loved the take on the modern MP5K-PDW. I would love to see more videos on more "classic" weapons that have been modernized.
I really enjoy the thought process behind these builds (e.g. with the concentrated light beam that emphasizes the weapon purpose), they're very coherent and not only for tacticool purposes. Top notch content as always.
The H&K MP5 in all it's variants is an absolute icon & true legend. I loved to train with it. Anyway I prefer to use the FN P90 slightly bigger, but with more power. ..
I’ve wanted one since HK’s 2016 version of sp5k. Ever since the pdw version came out last year I’ve hunted tirelessly for one but since they are so few in production in comparison to anything else HK offers and demand is absolutely through the roof, the only reliable place to find them is going up against the shills on GB, which easily puts the final price tag $1k or $2k or even more above msrp. Finding one for the right price is near impossible right now and I’ve gotten close a couple times but wasn’t fast enough to secure it. Someday…
This is one of my most fav- FA Post samples. it is old it has issues. still one of my most favs by far.. and this video is really one of the best I have ever seen. thanks !!
Great content, as always. The MP5 is of course, one heckuva weapon. But man, are they ridiculously expensive these days, esp. given that, as this vid points out, getting one is just the beginning of being able to outfit it as a modern weapon. My dream would be that HK take the internals of the MP/SP5 and put it into a more modern chassis and release it as the MP/SP5 2.0 (or whatever). Of course, my other dream would be actually finding one for normal MSRP, which isn't going to happen any time soon by the look of things. In the meantime, dropping $4-5k (or more) for a MP/SP5 is kind of insane. Esp. when there are more modern options (B&T, Sig...) that will do everything the HK will do, and all you need to do is bolt on an optic and a light and you're ready to go, for thousands less.
Loved your G3 irons review 6 months ago, couple requests: first, you mentioned we would see a second video on the G3 shooting for speed, would love to see a follow up! Second, I know it may be tough to source, but I would love to see a practical accuracy of the PTR K3P, their G3K style build, to see how a G3-type 12.5 barrel stacks up against the para FAL. Thank You, I love the HK content!
First time seeing one of your videos (researching for work - love to get to watch gun vids as an actual work-related task 😆) and it's top-notch. Liked/subscribed
Thank you for the video! Great visuals, great knowledge from James, most amazingly - the narrator is likely the only person in US gun industry who can correctly pronounce Koch and Teufelshund😂
I understand _why_ you went with the new foregrip but i can't help but think the broom handle still edges it out for me. Ever since seeing these things as a kid it's just _gotta_ have those chunky grips for me. It's really cool to see how 30ish years of technological advancements can turn things around tho. I would like to ask if you guys have more videos like this, where you take "old guns" and modernize them. I always wanted to see what a tommygun _without_ that awkward stock would be like. Or a Schofield revolver but made with materials and cartridges that are modern. Maybe a built in rail system on the barrel for a light.
Awesome, I've been looking for a light solution. Thanks you. I personally went with a Saftey Harbor KES stock and went from the RDS setup shown here to ditching the irons for a M8 RMR rear sight base with a Holosun pistol RDS. Gotta have my HK slap!
Yeah. I need to consider the rear sight base change too. Thumbing the charging handle around the optic has to go. Set ups using the K has a learning curve.
Such a comprehensive, well made and informative content. 9-Hole Reviews team never disappoint. I would say that this video slaps, but it would be understatement B)
Pulls video up on computer in office to watch while getting ready for work.... Intro starts.... "Oh hell no. This deserves a big screen and my recliner!"
There was an MP5 in 22lr at my gunstore for about a month and I swear I went in there every other day for the HK slap while buying other stuff. Feels so great smacking the bolt closed 🤣
I went with an extremely similar setup to this on my SP5K, B&T telescopic, and midwest HG, but used Samson (short) VG and Surefire M640DF I wanted my light head to hang further forward to have less suppressor shadowing... so far so good, love this setup. Still doing a little testing on what optic I'm gonna use for it. Thanks for the great content and inspiration!
Great video. I wonder 2 things. 1. What if the mount scooted the optic rearward by about a 1/2 inch? 2. What if you rotated the cocking handle slot upward a hair and then cut the locking slot downward instead of upwards?
For 10 years I owned an HK MP5 that started out life as an HK 94 but was professionally converted with an auto sear to a standard HK MP 5 configuration, I had both the fixed as well as the telescoping stock . I had added an AWC MK 9 suppressor. This gun shot flawlessly and I routinely could hold groups that could be covered with the end of a soft drink can at 25 yards. It was a transferable weapon and I had planned to relocate to a non NFA state. The MP5 makes sense for people in clandestine situations but with all of the add ons it seems like a bulky weapon to carry under a suit jacket and/ or topcoat. Maybe not. All I know is that the MP 5 is an outstanding weapon and is extremely reliable.
Great video, thank you for posting! I find these in depth historical videos to be some of your best content. I'd love to see one on the full size MP5 next 🤞. But remember even if you put tape on a Holosun, it still remains a Holosun @18:10 lol
beautiful. Want one badly. I still think that mag-in-the-grip architecture - Uzi, B&T - is better for this type of super-compact arm. With red dots, there's no need to extend the PDW any longer than a typical 9mm pistol. I don't see what's gained.
Great Video as always! Where the MP5K is prioritizing compactness and concealability, I'm wondering if the "Cheep Pistol Concept" from the Demonstrated Concepts RUclips Channel (and also demonstrated by Ian on Forgotten Weapons), used on the CP33 and TP9 could be applicable to the MP5K. Perhaps a riser mount and bracing on the cheek would be feasible? Or maybe the drum sight, rail space, or weight would get in the way. In any case, does 9-Hole have any interest in the cheek pistol concept for a future video?
Yeah, makes sense that a suppressor would change the rate of fire since the blowback is different. But thinking about it, even a stock should affect the rate of fire to some degree. ( I think that's what they mentioning as well). In the first extreme, we have a gun with is fixed in place and can't move backwards. Thus, all the energy from the blowback is put into accelerating the bolt backwards and no energy is lost in accelerating the gun itself backwards.(It's rigid, it can't move) Thus the bolt travels back more quickly, higher RPM. In the other extreme, let's assume the gun is free floating. In this case, the blowback will accelerate the bolt backward but a lot of energy is also "lost" accelerating the gun itself back. It's just a matter of friction between bolt and gun and how much momentum is needed to accelerate the gun... In reality, shooting a gun with a stock will be closer to the first extreme case. And shooting a gun without a stock is closer to the second. (Since the gun can move with less "resistance" without a stock) The difference is likely very small but it should exist. This is interesting to me mainly because it's similar to other physical systems, for instance musical (acoustic and electric) instruments. In musical instruments, the resonance (i.e. frequency) (of strings or the instrument's body / corpus) is often determined by how much mass is resonating and ho much tension is in a system. For stringed instruments, allowing the ends of the string to move would have a similar effect to the frequency of the instrument than allowing the gun to move w/o a stock. Obviously those things don't behave identical, but in theory they're based on the same interactions between mass, spring tension, energy loss and so on.
25:58 i did the same with a F88 (AUG Steyr) in the Australia army with the steyr i would use my palm bigger surface area less likely to miss when reloading on the move etc.. also some of the guns were old and stiff and it worked much better with them aswell. after many hours unloading reloading i found it to be the best way.
I originally got a holosun ACSS red dot for my SP5, but ended up switching it out for a standard red dot. I love ACSS optics, but I was not a fan of the sight picture when combined with the full HK hood. It was just a little bit too much for me lol.
I wanna point out in regards to reloading with an optic mounted (25:35) that *technically speaking* you don't need to lock the bolt open and then perform a reload. What I've done with my scoped G3 is that, when the gun is empty, I just load a new mag and then pull the charging handle all the way back. Technically of course this could POTENTIALLY lead to a short-stroke of the charging handle, meaning a round won't be chambered, but I feel like with how light the charging handle on the MP5 is, that's really not a huge issue. Still, love the video and it's incredibly informative! Love it!
Thank you for this very well made and very informative video. And finally sombody who knows how Heckler und Koch is pronounced like it should be. If Othias ever gets WWI weapons done, they will have a hard time to top this video in information density and quality. Welcome to C&Rsenal Primer teritory.
The only way to use MP5K is to get two of them, say "I am the scales of justice! The conductor of the choir of death! Sing, Brother Heckler! Sing, Brother Koch! Sing, brothers! Sing! SING!!!", then fire blindly to your front. Also best used in conjunction with two AK-74s
Got a Flush barrel K. Binary trigger. Back and forth about PDW trilug barrel swap. Sling mounting, optics, HK slap learning curve over full size MP5. Less is better when setting up the K.
![H&K MP5 🇩🇪 modernization from 1966 to TODAY [Historical Timeline]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/3NL46xSac1o/mqdefault.jpg)
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Modernized SP5k PDW parts and overview at 17:21(if that's all you wanted to see)
You need a MP5K/10mm in 9x25.
Will you be comparing it to a B&T MP9/Steyr SPP?
If you want a lighter Eotech like sight check out the Shield SIS.
Would the angstadt arms mdp-9 be considered the modern mp5?
Would really like to see a vid of modernized MP5K vs MP7, P90, some AR PDW in a comparison/group-test.
30 minutes of top quality content
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Agreed, these guys are awesome!
Yeah boiii this dudes German, English, Oxford threesome sounding accent make a dude harder n wood pecker lips
Indubitably
Newsletter gang in the house. I still remember the short chat I had with Henry about me thinking I was sent the wrong color panels from Slate Black.. Yes that Henry returned my call immediately. Some how we got on the subject of the MP5K being unreliable when suppressed. Bought that locking piece but have yet to install and test.. Great video
are they working out? #newslettergang
I accidently clicked the wrong color when i ordered my panels. I got ahold of them and they swapped it and shipped in the same day. Couldn't ask for anything better!
@@Grafspee0 My issue was 100% me. I ordered the panels FDE (which I now have on all my M-Lok rifles) and it looked OD Green when I got them.. Sent a email.. got a call and when I answered.. I am like wait, I know that voice. Henry called me back and we had a great chat. He asked me to take the panels outside in the natural light, sure enough, in my office they looked OD take them outside in the FL sun.. they were FDE ..
If I mess up my order and then complain… do I get to speak to Henry too? 🤞🤞🤞🤞😉
@@floridahdshooter lol the same thing happened to me. When I first got them, they looked like some weird combo of chocolate brown + ODG, but I realized that was just because of the color of the lighting in my house. Well that and I'm also red-green colorblind lol
I attended an H&K MP-5 school back in '88. They had a sling set up that we adjusted to our particular build. We would extend the MP5 straight out and leveled just below our chin and ran the gun like a tank turret. As long as you kept your shoulders squared to the target and the muzzle directly beneath chin level, the rounds impacted where we were looking. It did not matter where the target was heighth wise, as long as you kept the muzzle parallel under you chin when you raised your head to look at the target you would hit it. They had a very challenging low light test on the run and full auto. the technique worked like a charm.
I appreciate the Die Hard 2 reference with the taped magazines!
Glad I wasn't the only one
I figured there was a practical purpose beyond a Die Hard reference.
100 points for the right pronunciation of "Koch".
It's not cock, it's coke
Just talked with James @ Teufelshund Tac and found him to be very knowledgeable and helpful. If you have MP5 or any other HK-related work, he is the man.
Newsletter gang, here for my firearms and tactics of history lessons. Love these informative videos about as much as the proper range videos, great work fellas.
#newslettergang
A Practical Accuracy series featuring SMGs/PCCs like the MP5, Uzi etc might be interesting. Obviously not out to 500 yards like you do with the rifles, but perhaps evaluating the combat accuracy potential of pistol caliber weapons out to ranges of like 200 yards or something.
Or an actual accuracy comparison like they did for the AK
They did a close range with pistols and pdw a while back but it was a failure with the views, not sure if it was the reason they stop doing.
Nah I wana see 500meters like Forgotten Weapons did with his USW pistol
the roller locked system is so good in so many calibers, i really want to see a modernized version of the MP5 or CETME-L or G3 from the ground up, aka proper last round bolt hold open, better sight integration, triggers, etc
Bw21
The 10mm and 40 cal mp5 has a last round bolt hold open.
And better selector configuration
The JP-5
The MP5 is legendary and a beautiful gun. Just ordered a HK Licensed MP5k BBgun version
In car enthusist parlance, you guys did a resto-mod on a MP5K and did it well.👍👍
Love to see that this is still a very good PDW system all these years on! Can't wait for the P90 episode of this series, glad Henry busted out the hacksaw
Yes! YES!! YES!!!
1:24 - FINALLY the right pronunciation of ‚Teufelshund Tactical‘ - not even James Williamson get’s it right!!
Thank you, Henry! Finally the cringing has an end…
…and thank you for the superb content, as always. (wouldn‘t have expected anything else - linguistically and technically/historically)
Actually, that was Henry's other cousin, Hans, that spoken that part. You see, Henry have many cousins around the world.
I don’t get how one can get so worked up over the pronunciation of a difficult word…
Imagine getting worked up over a word, and company, that most of the world doesn't even know exists.
i love seeing that b&t stock, chance we’ll ever see more b&t rifles mentioned?
B&T is interesting for sure. they're in consideration :) #NewsletterGang
B&T APC9k vs MP5k would be a great video. APC9k would win though..more modern, better ergonomics, better features...the MP5k looks cool though..:-)
@@ralphderkapitaen9875 The ergos are better but the plastic mags are crap and the hydraulic buffer doesn’t seem to do much to smooth out the recoil (at least it didn’t on the GHM9 I put about 4-5 mags through).
@@cletustheslackjawedyokel6083 forget the B&T mags. Get the one model with Glock mags and you are all set. Glock mags are great, durable, reliable and cheaper than the B&T..so win win..:-) I cant compare the GHM9, but I heard that the APC9 has got slightly softer recoil than the GHM9. You pay almost 1k more for APC9, so it better be better at something..:-)
I think the APC9k (the short version) is the way to go. Especially, when compared to MP5 (or MP5k). Its cheaper, and overall wins on so many different things. MP5 has got a great history and is still a great gun, but is just behind on many things (got stuck in the 70's and didnt keep up with new developments). Still a great gun, but the APC9k is just better
Your production content, quality of filming, commentary and chemistry is all absolutely phenomenal. 9 Hole and Forgotten Weapons are some of my favorite places to get new content. This type of stuff should be on the History Channel in a perfect world.
Absolutely phenomenal video and full of great historical value. The H&K MP5 and MP5k platform lives on👍🏻
Спасибо за вашу работу, делайте подобные ролики ещё!
I always love the MP5 in both design and aesthetics. The roller delayed blowback is very nice in impulse to me, especially if anyone has fired HK91s/G3s. I am so tempted to get a MP5 again haha. Damn you Henry and Josh... My wallet curses you...
Awesome video y'all! Delivering the knowledge bombs and amazing gun pr0nz. XD
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U had one in the first place and u got rid of it?
Looked at another way, after you buy your MP5, nobody's gonna be able to take your wallet. You know it makes sense. 💥💥💥💥
Very interesting! I hope you will have more from James Williamson in the future.
Great video guys!
Back in the early 1990s, H&K sent 3 MP5s in 10mm for evaluation (a federal agency SOG).
We really liked the performance and added ballistics, but unfortunately H&K ultimately decided not to go into production of the 10mm version.
10mm worked better on the UMP.
The 10mm magazines looked cool, too. Heard it beat up the receivers a bit more than expected, though
@@Adam-qv2bd no it didn’t, that plastic junk was just cheaper to produce.
Hi I'm from Germany and I have to say it catcht my attention how good you've spelled Heckler und Koch. The best I've heard from any English speaking person so far.
Love the mix of modernisation and history.
Hands down probably the best video I’ve seen all around in a long time. Straight facts about the system with the right amount shooting, and weapons manipulation. No filler or BS. Definitely subscribing. Great work good sir others should take note.
Phenomenal video as always. 30 minutes of literal MP5 porn and great info throughout. Loved the take on the modern MP5K-PDW. I would love to see more videos on more "classic" weapons that have been modernized.
This is by far the best firearm channel. Funny when it needs to be but not wasting time shooting pumpkins and fire hydrants.
I'm always blown away by the quality that you manage to get with these videos, it is some of the best firearms content on RUclips!
thanks :) this one was particularly a lot of work.
@@9HoleReviews It was worth it. Your best video yet :)
I really enjoy the thought process behind these builds (e.g. with the concentrated light beam that emphasizes the weapon purpose), they're very coherent and not only for tacticool purposes. Top notch content as always.
Henry is absolutely destroying my retirement plans with videos like this.
Gun Jesus' laughter hath blessed us.
And you can emphasize with him.
The H&K MP5 in all it's variants is an absolute icon & true legend. I loved to train with it. Anyway I prefer to use the FN P90 slightly bigger, but with more power. ..
i have always enjoyed this segment . worth watching and well explained by a pro . salute .
top quality, i come back and watch this every once and awhile
3:30 i was amazed as hell and couldn’t quit rewinding. 😱
I’ve wanted one since HK’s 2016 version of sp5k. Ever since the pdw version came out last year I’ve hunted tirelessly for one but since they are so few in production in comparison to anything else HK offers and demand is absolutely through the roof, the only reliable place to find them is going up against the shills on GB, which easily puts the final price tag $1k or $2k or even more above msrp. Finding one for the right price is near impossible right now and I’ve gotten close a couple times but wasn’t fast enough to secure it. Someday…
This is one of my most fav- FA Post samples. it is old it has issues. still one of my most favs by far.. and this video is really one of the best I have ever seen. thanks !!
Great video 9-hole reviews is easily one of my favorite channels to watch
Pure entertainment thanks guys.
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Great content, as always. The MP5 is of course, one heckuva weapon. But man, are they ridiculously expensive these days, esp. given that, as this vid points out, getting one is just the beginning of being able to outfit it as a modern weapon. My dream would be that HK take the internals of the MP/SP5 and put it into a more modern chassis and release it as the MP/SP5 2.0 (or whatever). Of course, my other dream would be actually finding one for normal MSRP, which isn't going to happen any time soon by the look of things.
In the meantime, dropping $4-5k (or more) for a MP/SP5 is kind of insane. Esp. when there are more modern options (B&T, Sig...) that will do everything the HK will do, and all you need to do is bolt on an optic and a light and you're ready to go, for thousands less.
Newsletter gang here. Quality content and well thought through
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Finally Josh did the HK slap! I was pretty frustrated with all the thumbing of the bolt release going on
That PDW with the can is an absolute beauty!
My favourite gun of all time. Thanks for this.
Nice. I was just looking up mp5k content and you of all channels put this up! Perfect.
I must ask though, where is the footage at 1:57 taken from?
cheers! that was from public footage that the bundespolizei released of the GSG9 conducting maritime boarding training.
@@9HoleReviews Ah, thanks. Looked surprisingly high quality for that kind of footage so I was wondering a bit.
Loved your G3 irons review 6 months ago, couple requests: first, you mentioned we would see a second video on the G3 shooting for speed, would love to see a follow up! Second, I know it may be tough to source, but I would love to see a practical accuracy of the PTR K3P, their G3K style build, to see how a G3-type 12.5 barrel stacks up against the para FAL. Thank You, I love the HK content!
I love the way you present it. Very straightforward . Keep up the good work .
Great video, as always.
I saw you at the range saturday, and man. I dont think i ever wanted any type of MP5 more than that day lol.
The H&k Mp5k is my favorite platform, thank you for this video🇺🇸✌
Newsletter Gang Ahoy! Superb video.
#newslettergang thanks!
you literally did me no favor. i am now even more conflicted between the mp5 and mp5k pdw....because now the pdw is even more awesome
First time seeing one of your videos (researching for work - love to get to watch gun vids as an actual work-related task 😆) and it's top-notch. Liked/subscribed
Ordered several parts from. Slate Black after this video. Definitely takes the right parts to make it sing with a 2 inch handguard.
I just love that Henry pronounces every German word correctly.
Thank you for the video! Great visuals, great knowledge from James, most amazingly - the narrator is likely the only person in US gun industry who can correctly pronounce Koch and Teufelshund😂
I understand _why_ you went with the new foregrip but i can't help but think the broom handle still edges it out for me.
Ever since seeing these things as a kid it's just _gotta_ have those chunky grips for me.
It's really cool to see how 30ish years of technological advancements can turn things around tho.
I would like to ask if you guys have more videos like this, where you take "old guns" and modernize them.
I always wanted to see what a tommygun _without_ that awkward stock would be like. Or a Schofield revolver but made with materials and cartridges that are modern. Maybe a built in rail system on the barrel for a light.
hoplopfheil does a series on modernizing old guns
@@fi4re ay thanks for letting me know man, I'll check em out!
Awesome, I've been looking for a light solution. Thanks you. I personally went with a Saftey Harbor KES stock and went from the RDS setup shown here to ditching the irons for a M8 RMR rear sight base with a Holosun pistol RDS. Gotta have my HK slap!
Yeah. I need to consider the rear sight base change too. Thumbing the charging handle around the optic has to go. Set ups using the K has a learning curve.
This is one of the best MP5 videos out!
Such a comprehensive, well made and informative content. 9-Hole Reviews team never disappoint.
I would say that this video slaps, but it would be understatement B)
god I just love it when Koch is pronounced correctly. So satisfying haha. Lovce the MP5 in general
Kochhhhhhhh hogs up lugi
Pulls video up on computer in office to watch while getting ready for work....
Intro starts....
"Oh hell no. This deserves a big screen and my recliner!"
There was an MP5 in 22lr at my gunstore for about a month and I swear I went in there every other day for the HK slap while buying other stuff. Feels so great smacking the bolt closed 🤣
Knife hand with a pinky finger is absolutely the way to go. It's a good and stable method though. Love to see it.
Henry.....👍 👍 👍 👍 👍......Ian emptying brief case and Josh's cool shades
I have loved this submachinegun since i first saw it in "Executive decistions" (Steven Seagal).
Great presentation! Thank You.NLG
Thanks! #NewsletterGang
OMG you spelled Heckler & Koch the right way ❤😍
Much love from germany :)
loved that weapon , was my issued in the late 70's when plain clothed ..
I went with an extremely similar setup to this on my SP5K, B&T telescopic, and midwest HG, but used Samson (short) VG and Surefire M640DF I wanted my light head to hang further forward to have less suppressor shadowing... so far so good, love this setup. Still doing a little testing on what optic I'm gonna use for it. Thanks for the great content and inspiration!
Great video. I wonder 2 things.
1. What if the mount scooted the optic rearward by about a 1/2 inch?
2. What if you rotated the cocking handle slot upward a hair and then cut the locking slot downward instead of upwards?
I like the H&K PM5K, it's been my favorite submachine gun since I was eleven years old when I saw it in "Die Hard 2" and in "Terminator 2"!!
I am so glad Henry brought up the idea of using a bag that looks like a bag and not some purpose built gun bag that LOOKS like a gun bag
This is the best MP5K build, period.
For 10 years I owned an HK MP5 that started out life as an HK 94 but was professionally converted with an auto sear to a standard HK MP 5 configuration, I had both the fixed as well as the telescoping stock . I had added an AWC MK 9 suppressor. This gun shot flawlessly and I routinely could hold groups that could be covered with the end of a soft drink can at 25 yards. It was a transferable weapon and I had planned to relocate to a non NFA state. The MP5 makes sense for people in clandestine situations but with all of the add ons it seems like a bulky weapon to carry under a suit jacket and/ or topcoat. Maybe not. All I know is that the MP 5 is an outstanding weapon and is extremely reliable.
Great video, thank you for posting! I find these in depth historical videos to be some of your best content. I'd love to see one on the full size MP5 next 🤞. But remember even if you put tape on a Holosun, it still remains a Holosun @18:10 lol
As I mentioned, I like the holosun, but i don't like the that they put a big logo on the side. I do the same to my EoTech.
beautiful. Want one badly.
I still think that mag-in-the-grip architecture - Uzi, B&T - is better for this type of super-compact arm. With red dots, there's no need to extend the PDW any longer than a typical 9mm pistol. I don't see what's gained.
That late night infomercial for the Arisaka.👍👍 😁
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That is a slick package you put together.
Great Video as always! Where the MP5K is prioritizing compactness and concealability, I'm wondering if the "Cheep Pistol Concept" from the Demonstrated Concepts RUclips Channel (and also demonstrated by Ian on Forgotten Weapons), used on the CP33 and TP9 could be applicable to the MP5K. Perhaps a riser mount and bracing on the cheek would be feasible? Or maybe the drum sight, rail space, or weight would get in the way. In any case, does 9-Hole have any interest in the cheek pistol concept for a future video?
Awesome! Keep 'em coming! Maybe a Farrow Tech low RMR mount to clear up the charging handle interference?
If the Newsletter links it, they will come.
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Yeah, makes sense that a suppressor would change the rate of fire since the blowback is different. But thinking about it, even a stock should affect the rate of fire to some degree. ( I think that's what they mentioning as well).
In the first extreme, we have a gun with is fixed in place and can't move backwards. Thus, all the energy from the blowback is put into accelerating the bolt backwards and no energy is lost in accelerating the gun itself backwards.(It's rigid, it can't move) Thus the bolt travels back more quickly, higher RPM.
In the other extreme, let's assume the gun is free floating. In this case, the blowback will accelerate the bolt backward but a lot of energy is also "lost" accelerating the gun itself back. It's just a matter of friction between bolt and gun and how much momentum is needed to accelerate the gun...
In reality, shooting a gun with a stock will be closer to the first extreme case. And shooting a gun without a stock is closer to the second. (Since the gun can move with less "resistance" without a stock) The difference is likely very small but it should exist.
This is interesting to me mainly because it's similar to other physical systems, for instance musical (acoustic and electric) instruments. In musical instruments, the resonance (i.e. frequency) (of strings or the instrument's body / corpus) is often determined by how much mass is resonating and ho much tension is in a system. For stringed instruments, allowing the ends of the string to move would have a similar effect to the frequency of the instrument than allowing the gun to move w/o a stock.
Obviously those things don't behave identical, but in theory they're based on the same interactions between mass, spring tension, energy loss and so on.
Looked up the b&t stock and all I gotta say is sheeeeesh
25:58 i did the same with a F88 (AUG Steyr) in the Australia army with the steyr i would use my palm bigger surface area less likely to miss when reloading on the move etc.. also some of the guns were old and stiff and it worked much better with them aswell.
after many hours unloading reloading i found it to be the best way.
It was meant to be, my mp5 is due to arrive today🙌🏻 Great video 💪🏻
This channel is top quality with it's content.
Cool video, I have always wanted a MP5k..
I originally got a holosun ACSS red dot for my SP5, but ended up switching it out for a standard red dot. I love ACSS optics, but I was not a fan of the sight picture when combined with the full HK hood. It was just a little bit too much for me lol.
I wanna point out in regards to reloading with an optic mounted (25:35) that *technically speaking* you don't need to lock the bolt open and then perform a reload. What I've done with my scoped G3 is that, when the gun is empty, I just load a new mag and then pull the charging handle all the way back.
Technically of course this could POTENTIALLY lead to a short-stroke of the charging handle, meaning a round won't be chambered, but I feel like with how light the charging handle on the MP5 is, that's really not a huge issue.
Still, love the video and it's incredibly informative! Love it!
There is a problem loading a full 30 round magazine with the bolt closed. If you download it to 29 it works but at 30 it is very difficult
i'm always suprised how good your german is
9hole Gents,
Well done!
1 of your best vids todate
Can't wait for the AKS74U PDW video!
A very interesting and well done video. Full of content! Thank you.
Thank you for this very well made and very informative video. And finally sombody who knows how Heckler und Koch is pronounced like it should be.
If Othias ever gets WWI weapons done, they will have a hard time to top this video in information density and quality. Welcome to C&Rsenal Primer teritory.
The only way to use MP5K is to get two of them, say "I am the scales of justice! The conductor of the choir of death! Sing, Brother Heckler! Sing, Brother Koch! Sing, brothers! Sing! SING!!!", then fire blindly to your front.
Also best used in conjunction with two AK-74s
Such a high quality channel. H&K. Emphasis on the K🤤🤤
Got a Flush barrel K. Binary trigger. Back and forth about PDW trilug barrel swap. Sling mounting, optics, HK slap learning curve over full size MP5. Less is better when setting up the K.
I’m a simple man, I see a 9-Hole Reviews video and I hit the like button
Thank you for this video. Very informative and applicable.
Power Glove with old operator footage is a pretty good match
Hey fellas, just found your channel. I'm really enjoying your content, keep up the good work. You have a new fan for sure!
Welcome, Evan!