The ULTIMATE Oris Divers 65...... For Now!

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  • Опубликовано: 15 янв 2025

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  • @floydmorrison2025
    @floydmorrison2025 Год назад +135

    You know, I think you're right, this IS the ultimate Divers 65 (what with the whole caliber 400 and all). I'll be able to tell my grandchildren that I was actually THERE, at 2am, on the east coast of the USA, when the legendary Jody from JOMW unveiled his FINAL purchase of the Oris Divers 65. It's a proud moment for me, Jody, and yes, I am weeping.

    • @coffeemarshall3484
      @coffeemarshall3484 Год назад

      3:46 am, east coast USA checking in.

    • @jamesblonde2271
      @jamesblonde2271 Год назад

      @@coffeemarshall3484 Me too, 9.01 GmT

    • @cwb8047
      @cwb8047 Год назад +2

      The 28th day of January in the 2023 year of our lord at 7:24 AM. For me, for this very Auspicious moment.
      Just kidding lovely watch. I hope you will continue to share your life of watches with us.

    • @Pete...NoNotThatOne
      @Pete...NoNotThatOne Год назад +3

      Oh yeah? No way this is his last one. It’s like Pringle’s, you can’t eat just one.

    • @JamesBrown-ct8nd
      @JamesBrown-ct8nd Год назад +1

      Funny!

  • @garethsigrist8714
    @garethsigrist8714 Год назад +15

    I think in the distant future the 6th of May will become 65 Day when families come together to celebrate the coming of a new Divers 65 to the JOMW collection 😂 In all seriousness your car analogy is perfect for this sort of thing.
    I’m a huge fan of Oris but haven’t found the Divers 65 for me yet. The Calibre 400 is a little out of my price range but otherwise this model is stunning so I look forward to hearing your long term thoughts.

  • @darrenjones2070
    @darrenjones2070 Год назад +3

    Absolutely gorgeous! I love Oris watches and this one makes me love them more. Great video love it.

  • @philspencelayh5464
    @philspencelayh5464 Год назад +10

    Looks great hope you enjoy it. Ten year warranty should be universal. Today I'm wearing my Avia Swissonic I've had it for 49 years, runs at 28800 and runs like it did when it was bought for about £25 if I remember correctly.

    • @JustOneMoreWatch
      @JustOneMoreWatch  Год назад +2

      Wow! Nice one Phil. Have you had to service it much?

    • @philspencelayh5464
      @philspencelayh5464 Год назад +3

      @@JustOneMoreWatch about 7 years ago when I got into servicing watches And I'd got some confidence it got a clean and lube. It was working ok before and really didn't make any difference.I think the Swiss had got the whole thing pretty well sussed by it was made, and with new oil it'll last longer than I will. Enjoy your Oris and maybe your boy will too.

  • @WATCHingJames
    @WATCHingJames Год назад +1

    My favourite of these so far. It looks great

  • @mikegreig3338
    @mikegreig3338 Год назад +3

    I’ve had this watch since last October, love it, it’s not really a diver though, more of a daily watch with a second time zone on it…

  • @beardsforbirds1858
    @beardsforbirds1858 Год назад +1

    I still have my blue/black heritage dial that you started with, that dial simply can’t be out charmed by anything out there. I’ve also added a Cotton Candy full bronze 65, and I had to say as someone who loves the 65 just as much as you, the watch is perfection in 38mm.
    I have it on good authority that the heritage dial will be returning, and if it does so in 38mm with the cal 400, that will truly be the ultimate 65, and dare I say grail material.
    Congrats on the new pick up though mate!

  • @Noahnelson91
    @Noahnelson91 Год назад +5

    Yes the black dial is conservative but I think most of us watch enthusiasts forget that watches are an accessory and black dials go with everything! ...I am impressed with the 20mm to 16mm bracelet! I wish all watches would have tapered bracelets

  • @BlindProphet413
    @BlindProphet413 Год назад +1

    Jody you're my favorite channel on RUclips right now. Every time I see you've uploaded, it makes my day a little better!

  • @haping1
    @haping1 Год назад +1

    Hello from The Netherlands! My first video of the day wearing my Vostok with 10 year service interval. Enjoy!

    • @bigboiganiga8356
      @bigboiganiga8356 Год назад +2

      I busted my Vostok already. Wore it for like a year and I felt a snap in the movement when I was changing the long and painful dates.

  • @markloubser2433
    @markloubser2433 Год назад +1

    That speed regulator/adjuster on the movement is brilliant......

  • @jackdaw3173
    @jackdaw3173 Год назад +4

    Congrats mate!..I still reckon the one with the numerals at 3,6,9and 12 was your best looking one(has the most retro appeal)I get it though, when brands do a new version of a model and stick to monochrome it really freshens the look up..however if they did a stainless steel bezel version next year I could see you flipping for the 5th time!.lol

  • @pzwolski
    @pzwolski Год назад +3

    Good morning, Jody! It is 8am in Europe. What a nice surprise when you wake up and a your favourite channel comes up with a new clip. 🙂

    • @JustOneMoreWatch
      @JustOneMoreWatch  Год назад

      Morning Pawel! Thansk for watching and have a good day mate!

  • @halfsourlizard9319
    @halfsourlizard9319 Год назад +1

    I seen me a mermaid once. I even seen me a shark eat an octopus. But I ain't never seen no Oris priced like a Tudor.

  • @RedwoodAggie
    @RedwoodAggie Год назад +1

    I'm glad you picked this one up, and look forward to the long term owners report. I am interested in this one, and tried it on wrist at the AD the other day. I was impressed! The 100m WR is still puzzling to me, but I guess there is a trade off for that lightness? What would it take to improve that, Oris? I love that it's got white lume, and the 12 hour bezel is a unique touch I could actually put to use with my work.

  • @fergiet18
    @fergiet18 Год назад +1

    It does look good and the movement is a huge upgrade, if you have the money. Very happy with my bronze bezel 65.

  • @MadMax76er
    @MadMax76er Год назад +2

    The Fratello limited edition version of the 65 was stunning

  • @MyAlan999
    @MyAlan999 Год назад +4

    The first 2 you had Jody are the best looking wish Oris still made this dial , it's a grail for me and it's hard to find one in good condition at a fair price :(

  • @Razor_Burn
    @Razor_Burn Год назад +1

    Thanks for such an entertaining video Jody and congratulations to team ORIS as its one beautiful watch and 10 year warranty is fantastic! 👍

  • @shawnmungur4875
    @shawnmungur4875 Год назад +1

    Selling them buying the same car... Sounds familiar, and selling and buying the EXACT same car? Yeah, done that too!
    Keep the vids coming!

  • @statlerwaldorf7130
    @statlerwaldorf7130 Год назад

    Great video Jody, very impressive warranty on the movement and service span. Time will tell!

  • @Bugster987
    @Bugster987 Год назад +3

    Don’t think the look of the OG version can be beaten but that movement looks really nice.

  • @hutton40599
    @hutton40599 Год назад +1

    Congratulations Jody! I look forward to hearing which wins the most wrist time ;)

  • @aaronswatches
    @aaronswatches Год назад +2

    Mazel tov on that Oris 65🥂 I’m seriously considering adding the new Big Crown 473 to my collection soon! - Aaron

  • @jwags24
    @jwags24 Год назад +1

    Does Oris make a 39 or 38mm version of this ? After using Loriers Neptune I started to like smaller divers.

  • @witte2702
    @witte2702 Год назад +1

    would love to see a detailed review of the Uncle for Black Bay bracelet -- particularly the clasp. I'm considering buy a on-strap BB as the rivets+ lack if micro adjustment is a big no no. but love the BB58

  • @onlythewatchhead
    @onlythewatchhead Год назад

    😆 The intro was golden. It's like talking to a physical manifestation of your conscience.

  • @hiltonr1845
    @hiltonr1845 Год назад

    As soon as I saw you had a new Oris 65 video up, I just knew I had to stop everything and watch to see which version you had purchased this time.

  • @CriminOllyBlog
    @CriminOllyBlog Год назад

    I do think this is a gorgeous version. Is the lume still bad?

  • @singha686
    @singha686 Год назад

    I am the same. Have owned two version of the 65, and one of those twice! I also got rid of the 65s to fund a BB58. I like the look of this version, but have little use for a 12 hour bezel. I'm also hoping they up the lume power, but it seems it's not going to happen. Once they release a version with a regular dive time bezel or count down bezel, I will own a 65 yet again.

  • @WatchmakerErik
    @WatchmakerErik Год назад

    I don't know what I find more entertaining, the fact that you need to justify your watch selections (to whom? On what criteria? Is it the collection as a whole?) Or the fact that your two "distinct" retro divers are very similar. 🤔
    I guess you have a type 😃
    Great video as always though, and I am particularly smitten with the oras caliber 400 and want to know how it holds up for you long term. It's my belief that it should feel a lot more special than the Sellita powered versions.

    • @JustOneMoreWatch
      @JustOneMoreWatch  Год назад

      I guess if I make a video, I feel that I have to justify it to the people watching! Maybe I should keep the worst of my addiction to myself in the future?! Ha! Cheers Erik!

  • @dararohan1209
    @dararohan1209 Год назад +1

    Can anyone explain to me what purpose a 12 hour bezel on a diver style watch actually serves? Thanks.

    • @Goose619
      @Goose619 Месяц назад

      Can serve as a gmt.

  • @Yoshikaable
    @Yoshikaable Год назад

    Really a nice looking caseback. I like the cool way the rotor is held on

  • @bradvanallen8144
    @bradvanallen8144 Год назад +1

    I really like this watch and would like to get one myself but as always money is a problem but maybe some day. It’s a very nice watch!

  • @aleksandros1085
    @aleksandros1085 Год назад

    Good choice enjoy ❤

  • @drat1969
    @drat1969 Год назад

    Sweet piece! If you ever find yourself low on future video ideas, might I suggest a video detailing your selling experiences and any recommended best practices. 👍

  • @RickinHKG
    @RickinHKG Год назад

    Always nice to see a watch I’m interested in reviewed by one of the channels I regularly follow. Trying to decide between this and a Tudor P01. My smaller wrist might swing it for the ORIS.

  • @josephgittos3787
    @josephgittos3787 Год назад +3

    You would think they could supply a better box at that price point , I know it's just a box you place in a cupboard but I still expect a solid box. Love vintage watches so love the vibes on the Oris , I also own a Tudor BB ( thick heavy one ) in black with gold hands etc and just love looking at the dial such a vintage look that I love, I actually chose this over an Omega seamaster pro (I used to own a older model) but found the seamaster to blingy now.

    • @veetour
      @veetour Год назад +2

      I agree. Have a nice wooden storage box that goes with the high price tag of the watch.

    • @cwb8047
      @cwb8047 Год назад +1

      I agree the box looks a bit of a let down at that sort of retail price. They should have at least included some sort of high tech horns blowing, as the satin lined Jewel encrusted wooden box opens.
      Well maybe something in between.

  • @RJ986S
    @RJ986S Год назад

    Nice review, Jody. I spotted this watch at my Oris AD the other day. It really stood out in a display case of approx 30 Oris pieces. Imho, it has a slight 5513 Sub ND vibe (which I like). I ended up purchasing it (Oct 20 2023). I'm really enjoying it. I'm not going to be diving, so I appreciate being able to track 2 time zones with the 12-hr bezel. All good. 🙂🍺

  • @icychap
    @icychap Год назад

    Great looking watch. Enjoy!

  • @JayP7676
    @JayP7676 Год назад

    I like that Diver 65 though I would prefer the date on 3 o’clock. As it is with the Salita movement.

  • @MarkAitken-sq2ue
    @MarkAitken-sq2ue Год назад

    Hi Jody
    I’m definitely going to get this, it will be my third 65 Diver, I have the the bico on leather and the blue/black numbered dial which is stunning, I look at other watch brands but for some reason I keep coming back to the Oris 65.
    I really hope this one is a keeper for you

  • @jroobz
    @jroobz Год назад

    Favourite divers 65 is the blue dial with the funky explorer numerals. Wish they still made it

  • @scottbeckett4190
    @scottbeckett4190 Год назад

    I just love your vids. Well done. Nice watch. Dims a bit beside the Tudor. Merci!

  • @jjjfffppp
    @jjjfffppp Год назад

    DR Jody's relationship with the diver 65 reminds me of KISS' farewell tours

  • @NotoriousK_I_T
    @NotoriousK_I_T Год назад +2

    I have a similar relationship with the Citizen Promaster. I've had 4 different versions, sold them all. My favourite was the green titanium, but even that didn't stay in my collection. 😅

    • @JustOneMoreWatch
      @JustOneMoreWatch  Год назад +1

      I think it is healthy. Kinda.

    • @cwb8047
      @cwb8047 Год назад

      I'm not one to sell my old friends. Maybe that makes me a horder. I have way too many watches as a result. Probably not healthy. But I'll leave that to my beautiful wife to sort out when I'm gone.

  • @BetsBestBits
    @BetsBestBits Год назад

    Hello mate.
    Did you do a vid on Tudor BB58 best alternatives, or am I going doolally? My searches were fruitless.

  • @cwb8047
    @cwb8047 Год назад

    I have to admit that I haven't heard of the Caliber 400. So I'm Im not sure to what advantage it is to have one, over a Salita 200 or a Ronda 150. Other then a rather extended warranty. Which typically is just a piece of paper that state the reasons why they're not going to cover anything. There by lessening the chances of getting anything repaired at no cost.
    But it is a beautiful watch and I appreciate you sharing it with me/us. It's always good to hear you cheerful voice and witty commentary.

    • @AgeofEon
      @AgeofEon Год назад +1

      I mean, an in house, 5 days of power reserve, 10yr service interval/warranty, 4hz movement that's pretty thin is pretty nice on paper. It's got it's quirks but it's pretty cool to have such a new in house movement in a wider range of watches. It gives my Cal 403 Pointer Date way more character than if it just had an SW200 in it or equivalent.

  • @Megatraum504
    @Megatraum504 Год назад

    Wow. I've never really seen the cal 400. You are right about how simple it looks. I just pre ordered the LE christopher ward Blue Marine c63 with their in house sh21. Similar specs to the cal 400 but now i'm really blown away by what CW can offer in terms of tech and visuals vs Oris at damn near half the cost.

  • @igormoloko1
    @igormoloko1 Год назад

    What’s the accuracy like? Much difference to sellita based models?

  • @davekloss4884
    @davekloss4884 Год назад

    Jody, what's that unidirectional winding like? Loud? Endless?

  • @jasonhuang6332
    @jasonhuang6332 Год назад

    This is great. I'll keep my eyes peeled for when you decide to sell it.

  • @Tobi_Jones
    @Tobi_Jones Год назад

    great watch beautiful symmetry with the 6 oclock date

  • @rockthewatch
    @rockthewatch Год назад

    Not another one🤣. Great watch Jody.

  • @joelopic
    @joelopic Год назад

    Congratulations on the new diver Jody. Nice piece although the Aquis is my choice.
    I'm a fanatic Oris man.

  • @DavekayBSC
    @DavekayBSC Год назад +1

    Still have the 2018 blue/black 3/6/9/12 in my collection. It's survived longer than anything else by far. It is remarkable just how light these watches are. I wear all of my watches on straps, and even with that, the Oris is about 10g or so lighter than my Zodiacs, and 20g or so lighter than my Seiko MM200Rs. The 12-hour bezel gave me a thought - where's the GMT version? As far as I know, Oris has never done one with the D65. Seems like an obvious model to make, especially with the BB Pro being such a hit. Oris' model would be a caller rather than a traveler style, but they could also make their watch *dramatically* thinner than Tudor's using the Sellita SW330-2.

  • @anonymouswatchguy4223
    @anonymouswatchguy4223 Год назад

    Congrats..this one is a stunner

  • @martynm.449
    @martynm.449 Год назад

    I looked at this one yesterday. I can't wait for the review.

  • @kevinorr6880
    @kevinorr6880 Год назад +1

    I like the Oris, however, I'm a huge fan of the bronze bezel. I really like the Tudor Black Bay and it is certainly my grail but is completely out of reach. I would have kept the last Oris even with the new movement, bronze is my weakness. After all, the movement is the reason that I like the Omega.

  • @weswood151
    @weswood151 Год назад

    Please 🙏 talk about the Uncle Seiko jubilee 🙏. I found mine a bit sharp edged for my BB GMT.

  • @scottsj4625
    @scottsj4625 Год назад +1

    I am not familiar with the movement vs the seleta eta clone movement. The price is a big difference,

  • @popdufc4139
    @popdufc4139 Год назад

    My favourite face is still my, now, old Oris TT1. Ugly in a beautiful way and SO heavy. Wonderful blue wave face.

  • @tablameister
    @tablameister Год назад

    Dr. Jody, you have a problem! Excellent video, as always.

  • @shope83
    @shope83 Год назад +1

    My impression of this new diver 65 is basically that it has the same level of finishing as the rest, but with a better movement. Is this true? No other overall improvement?

  • @choolander
    @choolander Год назад +1

    Awaiting for your long term review 😅

  • @LawryBoyer
    @LawryBoyer Год назад

    Idk I find the 12 hour bezel a bit goofy. The in house movement is nice but practically I’d rather have the more common Sellita. My Black/Bronze made the cut down to a 3 watch collection and will be staying long term. Amazing watch

  • @HughSheehy
    @HughSheehy Год назад +1

    12 hour bezel and 100m water resist.
    In what way is that a dive watch?

  • @chia-mingyang5804
    @chia-mingyang5804 Год назад

    Does the black date disc with gray dial bother you

  • @riothero313
    @riothero313 Год назад

    Oddly enough after years of watch collecting I just pulled the trigger on my first black on black diver. I ordered the Axios Flagship Defiance and I am eagerly awaiting it. I have 4 other divers and what's nice is every one is a different dial color and case design. I'd be hard pressed to keep anything to closely resembling the other because I'd always have a favorite and would feel bad lol xD

  • @nick8603
    @nick8603 Год назад +1

    I have the Aquis with a Calibre 400 movement. You'll have to get to grips with the quirks of the watch to avoid frustration. For one, the rotor only winds in one direction. That means you'll never get it up to 5 days power reserve just from wearing. Apparently it takes around 200 winds of the crown to fully power. To be fair, this still only takes thirty seconds to a minute when you know you're putting it away for the weekend or so. The other one is the minute hand jump when manipulating the crown. Watch some RUclips vids to get the reason and easy mitigation. Aside from the silly personality traits it is an incredibly reliable and stable movement. Mine is from when they were first released and has been purring along wonderfully ever since.

    • @mikegreig3338
      @mikegreig3338 Год назад

      This is the second iteration of the calibre, I have this watch and it doesn’t have any issues at all

    • @nick8603
      @nick8603 Год назад

      @@mikegreig3338 Excellent! I didn't know they managed to fix the minute jump. The official message from Oris was that it is inherent to the clutch design and functions as intended.

    • @mikegreig3338
      @mikegreig3338 Год назад

      @@nick8603 yeah I heard that too, but funnily enough they managed to fix it….

    • @nick8603
      @nick8603 Год назад

      @@mikegreig3338 It doesn't bother me, but I'm interested what they say when I bring mine in for servicing (7 years from now!).

  • @ChrisM752
    @ChrisM752 Год назад +1

    Would like to see some content on the BB58 with the jubilee bracelet. Did you put the Tudor clasp on the new bracelet?

    • @JustOneMoreWatch
      @JustOneMoreWatch  Год назад +1

      Yes Chris. I might do a quickie vid on it. Quality is OK, but the Tudor clasp fits, so it looks factory. It will never go back on the rivet, this looks better and is more comfortable.

    • @ChrisM752
      @ChrisM752 Год назад

      @@JustOneMoreWatch would be good to see the quality in a short video and how it fits the Tudor clasp. I’m looking to get one this year for my 40th on the bracelet but would like another option and these uncle bracelets look good value. Also like the look of the vanguard fitted rubber straps.

  • @deanspeer1
    @deanspeer1 Год назад

    Oris is just so good!

  • @j.harbottle8928
    @j.harbottle8928 Год назад

    Great vid Jody, I'm the opposite, I don't sell before I buy, so I've four Seiko Samurai's in diff colours, and a king Samurai for Fridays! d'oh ! might sell though.... ?!

  • @victorutomo7244
    @victorutomo7244 Год назад

    Good intro Jody. I always appreciate people who are willing to make jokes about themselves or criticize themselves.
    And about the video, the 'story' is very familiar to us WUS, huh? Different watches same silliness 😂😂😂

  • @d2dahaka
    @d2dahaka Год назад

    Amazing. Love it.

  • @perfectwrist23
    @perfectwrist23 Год назад

    As a viewer, that looks better on wrist than almost anything else you have reviewed! It sits perfectly, although all the others have done too. Be interesting to see the movement review compared to the sw over time

  • @perfectwrist23
    @perfectwrist23 Год назад

    Wonder how it compares to Super Squale on wrist

  • @frankgumball5039
    @frankgumball5039 Год назад +3

    Never thought I'd see the day Jody bought a diver 65

  • @OwynDavies
    @OwynDavies Год назад

    It's all about that calibre!!

  • @steffydog
    @steffydog Год назад

    That’s nice, enjoy

  • @markplayford5836
    @markplayford5836 Год назад

    Very nice but the one I really liked was the green/blue dial limited edition (I think) for the jeans company. The strap was awful though! Lol enjoy Jody… even though the clock is ticking. 😂

  • @junwoojang2941
    @junwoojang2941 Год назад +1

    Lol I saw it coming as soon as you got the Tudor Black Bay. I love the Oris, but I do prefer the Tudor Black Bay over the Oris 65.

    • @achilles5197
      @achilles5197 Год назад

      Too bad Tudors customer service is awful. I hope with who takes care of their customers.

  • @ElectricShadowsZone
    @ElectricShadowsZone Год назад

    Jody, thanks for the overview of your new watch. I think the watch looks ok but not something I would put on my wish list. By the way, every time I saw a face on shot of your watch it looks like the bracelet end link at 12 o'clock left hand lug has a gap. Is it a reflection? It just bugs me when I see it.

  • @Shri_V
    @Shri_V Год назад +1

    At this point they should offer you a brand ambassadorship for the Oris 65.

  • @anildamodar8142
    @anildamodar8142 Год назад

    Beware of the calibre 400..I got an Aquis with that and had to return the watch as it was gaining an hour per day.. Got it replaced with a new one and this too went the same route.. Got rid of it and bought an Ultrachron instead

  • @A_Dude_And_His_Watch78
    @A_Dude_And_His_Watch78 Год назад

    That is a nice Oris right there. May be a keeper.

  • @thaumaturgeishere331
    @thaumaturgeishere331 Год назад

    Just noticed that the mass and general layout of the Oris looks a lot like the Tudor Black Bay Pro - excepting the GMT hand.

  • @stephengarratt8027
    @stephengarratt8027 Год назад

    Lovely edition, we're a wierd breed though because surely it should be at least 200 metres for the washing up.

  • @Cacciatore_Raccoglitore
    @Cacciatore_Raccoglitore Год назад

    My grail Oris is the blue dial 65, steel and bronze with bicolor bronze/steel bracelet

  • @thomascolletti4715
    @thomascolletti4715 Год назад

    Best value ""dress diver" award goes to the 65 GLOW. Love it!

  • @flymorenow
    @flymorenow Год назад +2

    The 100m WR is a killer for me on this watch. I'd save a little more and go with the Breitling SO that has a 1000m WR and fantastic AR.

    • @raulflores3796
      @raulflores3796 Год назад

      1000m sheeesh. But why so deep when you won't even go diving at your local swimming pool?

  • @MrSpenceju
    @MrSpenceju Год назад

    great video

  • @mikepurdy3952
    @mikepurdy3952 Год назад

    I'm in the 38mm. Camp Too. The 48mm. Lug-to-Lug on this watch might be a little tricky for Me to pull-off...

  • @danspanos
    @danspanos Год назад +4

    You need to change your channel name to Just One More Oris! 😂

  • @adamkidson4444
    @adamkidson4444 Год назад

    What does includes paid promotion mean ?

  • @tomcruz3774
    @tomcruz3774 Год назад

    We need more "retro tapered" bracelets. Beautiful watch

  • @jim_bocho
    @jim_bocho Год назад

    As someone on his third Porsche 944, I can relate to the car example 😅
    Loving the 65. I don’t know how many times I almost bought one.

    • @riothero313
      @riothero313 Год назад +1

      At least you have good taste in obsessions. I love those cars and I'm not a big Porsche fan in general, not a hater just they don't do much for me.

  • @stevendoig9094
    @stevendoig9094 4 месяца назад

    When will the follow-up review be coming out?

  • @rxmar23
    @rxmar23 Год назад

    I know it’s a small thing, but I do love the heritage box. The watch looks great, and I’m an Oris fan, but I’m not sure I’ll ever buy a watch that costs more than $2000 no matter how nice.

  • @stephan384
    @stephan384 Год назад

    Only complaint I have agains my 65 is that the clasp and bracelet are scratches maget compare to my Omegas.