Quick note on the clip, you don't necessarily need batteries in the controller. If you have a short USB c cord you can just connect the controller directly to the phone. The phone will power the controller and you eliminate the lag that you get from Bluetooth
The kishi V2 is amazing.. works with my case and has programable buttons and it helps with shooting games..works with my series x and ps5.. and I got it on sale at target for $29.99 cause it was a open box.. I got a deal and I’m loving it lol
Idk why but I prefer the v1 because of the grips and thumb stick placement making it easier to comfortably hold, not only that. But the thumb stick size being the same size as something like Xbox or PlayStation, which give more surface area to hold.
Tbh get either . Just know it’s not as precise but it’ll be good enough. If I had to choose I’ll always go with the razer it’s overall better but the backbone app is dope I just hate paying for stupid shit
I like the Kishi V2 more than the Backbone to the point where the Backbone felt cheap, buttons were okay but they also felt cheaply made, there are a ton of features these companies keep forgetting about when designing these and I hate it... Nice review however just have yet to find the perfect mobile gaming controller and I own a ton of them lol.
I want to add the likes of backbone and their usb insert will wear off very quickly by design (I own galeo sir and sometimes I run straight into walls during codm games and it is unresponsive) and I definitely recommend a standard controller with the mount.
Backbone is great if you use gyro to aim on games like CODM. Given that it is direct connection you do get lot less button latency. If don’t use gyro the right analog is like a Nintendo Switch being that is right under the buttons and kinda uncomfortable feel. Just my opinion.
no what he meant was how do you connect the controller to your phone lmao You can connect any last version of xbox one controller and xbox series X/S controllers through bluetooth on your phone.
Thanks for the video! I agree with your conclusions on ergonomics. I found the Backbone tricky to play because of the button and stick placement. Apple Arcade games play fine on the Backbone but XBOX games play better on the XBOX controller.
The backbone takes advantage of the phone’s haptics for rumble features. However, I don’t believe the razer Kishi does the same thing, but it is a software feature so it could be added later.
Just want to ask, I have the Kishi V2 controller, but in a couple of games, it moves on its own as if the right or left analog stick is drifting. Is this a bug, or could it be because my iPhone is getting hotter?
I have a MOGA XP-5 Xbox controller. Comes with phone clip, charging cable, and a direct connection cable with both USB-C Type and Micro USB Type on one cord. With mappable buttons on the back of the controller where your resting fingers go AND the ability to charge your phone with the controller while playing and an Xbox Gamepass home button. I have both the Razer Kishi V1 and V2 gamepads. The V2 is better but the top mappable buttons definitely get in the way. I tend to use the MOGA XP-5 mostly with the direct connect cable to eliminate input lag all while having that natural comfortable feeling. The V2 is my next one in line.
I like my backbone but barely use it, id rather have the PS5 stand and its cheaper although heavy.. i wish I returned it but I kind of like it. Im not sure if backbone for iphone runs smoother or not and if it will work on the new USB C Iphones. Its harder to play FPS or any games as good with the backbones placement.
Do you know an app that configure a controller? I have the xbox x controller for my iPhone 12 The game I'm playing on my phone is called Dead By Daylight Mobile. It only partly supports controller, so i need an app to make the rest of the controller useful
8:21 I get your opinion but that's just twacked and cap Dawg it might physically feel better in the hand but ain't no wayyyy you can tell me that an Xbox or ps4 controller is even in the ballpark when talking about response and latency I have a backbone that I secured for 20 bucks because bro thought he broke it it was just his phone tweaking apparently but I've been using ps4 and xbox one controllers on phones since controller support was first introduced and lemme just say that the differences are night and day backbone ftw
I have the controller clip and it’s pretty nice! Down side is that it is a little beefy of a setup and as you’ve said it’s a little difficult while traveling since I don’t wanna just throw my controller in a bag risking damage to the sticks. Latency is also an issue for those that are a bit more competitive. Haven’t tried the Kishi or Backbone yet trying to decide which to go with
I have the kishi v1 live it use it daily, i also have the kishi v2 but find myself using the v1 way more simoly because of the way it snaos together when not in use its small enough to carry in your pocket. I also use the Mantis controller pro button mapping app ( which i sideloaded and activiated) without paying for or needing a pc to activate the mantis controller buddy pro service and it works with every game you put on your device whether it has controller support or not
The backbone is hit and miss, the customer service and return department is crap. And for $100 bucks a warranty Should come with it , essentially since they don’t provide a case…what a waste of a almost good product..maybe backbone 2 will be perfect
I got a raxer kishi v1 then my down button stayed pressing down in game.....So i bought a €10,35 china controller eith Codm en apex support on android kkkkkkk 10 days delivery so ill see when it arive kkkkk I dont agree. Totally with yoy. I dont see any differnce between a xbox and kishi controller once you got used to it Even worse it plays great on mobile..... I think if you have the nancon pro and get used to the feeling you orobably pkay 1 on 1 the same. Its really great So yeah try the nancon Pro if you can find a good deal, to see how youre experince is with thay since you can keep the case. But i only used the kishi for stardew valley and streaming fortnite(xbox) Since it didnt have codm and apex support i couldnt test it of course. Had a xbox one bck inthe du days so.... The cheao controller is the replacment now, otherwise i go xbox controller i think for the support. If nacon BT had support i would buy that 1 i think...
Nah I’m not going back to backbone ever again 🤮 my iPhone 15 pro max get heat up after playing RESIDENT EVIL 7 so I’m done with Backbone I’d rather play this game on my Steam deck and switch
Update for iPhone 15/Pro, this is the best controller I have ever used with an iPhone! ruclips.net/video/c2XmbwhsnDM/видео.html
Quick note on the clip, you don't necessarily need batteries in the controller. If you have a short USB c cord you can just connect the controller directly to the phone. The phone will power the controller and you eliminate the lag that you get from Bluetooth
Doesn't work USB-C to iphone lightning port FYI
@@lineseekingI think there might be adapters for that
I owned the Kishi V1 and loved it but the V2 I got made it exactly what I wanted from the v1. I was so glad they made it like the backbone
Can you remote play on it via Xbox so for example, can you play gta 5 online? :) thank you
I bought second generation of Backbone One compatible with cases and I am really satisfied now :)
Same 2ndgen is amazing 😊 I have the playstation white one it's beautiful.
The kishi V2 is amazing.. works with my case and has programable buttons and it helps with shooting games..works with my series x and ps5.. and I got it on sale at target for $29.99 cause it was a open box.. I got a deal and I’m loving it lol
How you use it on Xbox??
Does it work on an iPhone pro max with an official case?
What case do you have and I’ll buy it right now.
I prefer the full sized controller but it's too heavy when I am holding it while laying down. Can't be good for your tendons if you use it daily.
Thanks for the info about the case not fitting, good to know!
You bet!
Gamvice Flex fits cases
Idk why but I prefer the v1 because of the grips and thumb stick placement making it easier to comfortably hold, not only that. But the thumb stick size being the same size as something like Xbox or PlayStation, which give more surface area to hold.
I think this is the video I needed to see thanks
As a Xbox user since forever I understand not being used to button to analog stick, but it’s very easy to master
No one ever mentions BackBone biggest flaw which makes the controller takes screenshots uncontrollably and constantly when not even. touch the button
Thats just yours
"No one wants to lose their rubbers" 🤣😂
Loool😊
That’s wat she said
Tbh get either . Just know it’s not as precise but it’ll be good enough. If I had to choose I’ll always go with the razer it’s overall better but the backbone app is dope I just hate paying for stupid shit
For me the xbox controller with the clip is too heavy and for cloud gaming the added latency of the bluetooth kills it. Great review anyway.
Agree that the Xbox Controller with the clip is too heavy to use. Backbone One is still the way to go.
While too heavy. A half inch usb c to c eliminates controller latency though and is highly recommended.
Its easy for me..❤
I just got the backbone getting one that looks like my ps5 is appealing. I also picked the one I saw in the store that was selling on Black Friday
iPhone 13 pro (max) and iPhone 14 series are not flat with the adapter on the backbone one, which is pretty annoying.
I like the Kishi V2 more than the Backbone to the point where the Backbone felt cheap, buttons were okay but they also felt cheaply made, there are a ton of features these companies keep forgetting about when designing these and I hate it... Nice review however just have yet to find the perfect mobile gaming controller and I own a ton of them lol.
The best one is connecting your actuall controller to your phone.
Can you remote play via it? Eg: playing GTA 5 online? :)
Is backbone one fits my iPhone 13 pro? Also thanks to your video
Yes it should
Does Kishi v2 fit in on Iphone 14 Pro Max .? Or the camera bumps get scratched by the controller's plastic back . Thanks
Camera bump gets in the way. He tells you in the video. (4:16)
Well , I put microfiber cloth later to wrap the plastic back. So the camera bump rest on the microfiber.
@@cloudstroz or just get over it and just use it anyway
@@LugiThePainDrinker
Um 1500 dollar phone
I Don’t want to get over it
@@randomphil8666no he said with the case it won’t fit.
Can you send the backbone one controller please
So how well does the iPhone 14 Pro sit without the case for the Razer V2?
I want to add the likes of backbone and their usb insert will wear off very quickly by design (I own galeo sir and sometimes I run straight into walls during codm games and it is unresponsive) and I definitely recommend a standard controller with the mount.
1:50 no case. No deal. Thanks for pointing that out.
Backbone is great if you use gyro to aim on games like CODM. Given that it is direct connection you do get lot less button latency. If don’t use gyro the right analog is like a Nintendo Switch being that is right under the buttons and kinda uncomfortable feel. Just my opinion.
Great video
Agreed
Thanks for checking it out!
I decided to go with SteelSeries controller for my ipad and iphone not having a built in rechargeable battery is not great
Don’t you need your Xbox in range of your phone if using a standard Xbox controller for remote play on phone? I’m confused
I wasn't using remote play, you can play games directly on the devices. Or you can do cloud gaming as well/
no what he meant was how do you connect the controller to your phone lmao
You can connect any last version of xbox one controller and xbox series X/S controllers through bluetooth on your phone.
What would be your second pick after the controller the back bone?
Thanks for the video! I agree with your conclusions on ergonomics. I found the Backbone tricky to play because of the button and stick placement. Apple Arcade games play fine on the Backbone but XBOX games play better on the XBOX controller.
Thanks for sharing!
Excellent Review and overview -- thank you
Will an iPhone 14 Pro Max with a case fit on the kishi?
Have you ever tried the razer kishi app with the backbone connected?
That’s what I keep asking but I haven’t seemed to get a response yet.
Sad there is no headphone jack for the Kishi :(
I think they figured you could use the lighting port headphones
well im on my second backbone warranty replacement and am thinking about maybe other options
yikes. Have you seen the gamevice flex?
For the razor Kishi are the grips bigger than the backbone one?
Will it work with a 14 pro max, with a case?????
Since Razer kishi V2 doesn’t have its own rumble, does it use the phone’s haptic/vibration engine when playing games like GRID Autosport?
The backbone takes advantage of the phone’s haptics for rumble features. However, I don’t believe the razer Kishi does the same thing, but it is a software feature so it could be added later.
Can I use it to play pes mobile for iPhone
I was gona get the backbone but went the an Xbox controller so I can use it with Xbox gamepass with my MacBook and iPad
Does Kishi v2 fit iPhone 14 Plus with a case?
Can I use any wireless xbox controller on ios? What about dualshock 4?
Can I use it to play pes mobile
thanks. does the xbox controller have bluetooth?
Yes you can tell by the face plate pretty sure flat plates are Bluetooth and ones with a dip are not
What's the name of the Apple Watch band you're using? Thanks mate
I hate the adapter you have to used for iPhone 13 on up for the backbone. It’s off centered and tacky to me
R there controllers for android phones
Yes and today this is the one I recommend for both iOS and android. ruclips.net/video/c2XmbwhsnDM/видео.htmlsi=QoZgDdhpQCLahKZK
Just want to ask, I have the Kishi V2 controller, but in a couple of games, it moves on its own as if the right or left analog stick is drifting. Is this a bug, or could it be because my iPhone is getting hotter?
Sounds like a defect with the controller.
I have a MOGA XP-5 Xbox controller. Comes with phone clip, charging cable, and a direct connection cable with both USB-C Type and Micro USB Type on one cord. With mappable buttons on the back of the controller where your resting fingers go AND the ability to charge your phone with the controller while playing and an Xbox Gamepass home button.
I have both the Razer Kishi V1 and V2 gamepads. The V2 is better but the top mappable buttons definitely get in the way.
I tend to use the MOGA XP-5 mostly with the direct connect cable to eliminate input lag all while having that natural comfortable feeling.
The V2 is my next one in line.
have you checked out the gamevice flex?
@Jerry Schulze nah I haven't, yet.
I like my backbone but barely use it, id rather have the PS5 stand and its cheaper although heavy.. i wish I returned it but I kind of like it. Im not sure if backbone for iphone runs smoother or not and if it will work on the new USB C Iphones. Its harder to play FPS or any games as good with the backbones placement.
Can Razer Kishi V2 and V1 play Honkai Impact 3 and Genshin Impact?
10:13 no one wants to lose their rubbers 🤣good video thanks. Backbone subscription sucks
I strictly use Xbox one controllers. I bought the razer Kishi v1 & the left stick broke in less than a month. And the triggers felt junk.
I really loved the feeling of the V1 hoe it plays but mydpad went broke yesterday....I bought it sept 2022 for €35 on Amazon
@jerryschulze do games come included with the Xbox controller? Also can they be used with app games already on iPhone like roblox
Can you connect Xbox controller to iPhone with cord?
The Flex fits cases & they made the Razor 2
Do they show up in game as touch input or controllers
controllers
8:09 man that thing sounds rickety
what about latency on xbox controller compared to back bone
To me it is imperceptable.
Do you know an app that configure a controller?
I have the xbox x controller for my iPhone 12
The game I'm playing on my phone is called Dead By Daylight Mobile.
It only partly supports controller, so i need an app to make the rest of the controller useful
If you don’t have Xbox these things are not for you, you have a game console set up for u to get in for Xbox games
8:21 I get your opinion but that's just twacked and cap Dawg it might physically feel better in the hand but ain't no wayyyy you can tell me that an Xbox or ps4 controller is even in the ballpark when talking about response and latency I have a backbone that I secured for 20 bucks because bro thought he broke it it was just his phone tweaking apparently but I've been using ps4 and xbox one controllers on phones since controller support was first introduced and lemme just say that the differences are night and day backbone ftw
Can you play console games on game pads or not
What is game?
Do these work with a Sansung galaxy s23 ultra with the case on?
I been thinking about getting one
I have the controller clip and it’s pretty nice! Down side is that it is a little beefy of a setup and as you’ve said it’s a little difficult while traveling since I don’t wanna just throw my controller in a bag risking damage to the sticks. Latency is also an issue for those that are a bit more competitive. Haven’t tried the Kishi or Backbone yet trying to decide which to go with
Yes it has an input lag, I thought he would’ve tested that against the back bone and kishi or atleast touched up on it a bit
I’ve already got controller drift so I don’t even worry about the sticks anymore lol
Mind you backbone is like $80-100 idk about the Kishi, and the xbox mount is like $15
I have both and I hate these controller
I recommend using the gaming vive flex controller
I have the kishi v1 live it use it daily, i also have the kishi v2 but find myself using the v1 way more simoly because of the way it snaos together when not in use its small enough to carry in your pocket. I also use the Mantis controller pro button mapping app ( which i sideloaded and activiated) without paying for or needing a pc to activate the mantis controller buddy pro service and it works with every game you put on your device whether it has controller support or not
What a typing mess. 🤣
@@PayneWewton yeah didn't proofread this because I wasn't writing my college thesis so it really doesn't matter to me
These fit the fold 6 z?? Anyone
STOP! You need to check out the GAMEVICE Flex for iPhone: ruclips.net/video/5o0lUt1AbwI/видео.html
Buy the GAMEVICE Flex geni.us/jiArO1C
Thank you
Also more delay on Xbox controller then backbone. Just a little. But enough to be bothersome
Xbox controller doesn’t work wired with iPhone and Bluetooth has bad lag
Can I play pubg mobile on this controller please tell me because we are all playing pubg the most
The Xbox style looks very clunky and like your phone is going to fall.
Please make one video for pubg mobile in controller iPhone 14 pro max
I like the Backbone the best
Which Controller will support
My IPHONE 14 Pro Max
I recommend this ruclips.net/video/5o0lUt1AbwI/видео.html
Does it fit with an iPhone 15 pro with a case on?
Nope, but this is faaaar better for iPhone 15... ruclips.net/video/c2XmbwhsnDM/видео.html
The backbone is hit and miss, the customer service and return department is crap. And for $100 bucks a warranty Should come with it , essentially since they don’t provide a case…what a waste of a almost good product..maybe backbone 2 will be perfect
Razer nexus app is ass. Won’t even let you add games to library.
Razer is for free to use app
Great, sticking to my Xbox controller.
Keep flipping the backbone so we can’t see the bad angle that it props the phone at
Hmm. Didn’t do anything intentional, yes there is a slight angle from the camera bump.
I got a raxer kishi v1 then my down button stayed pressing down in game.....So i bought a €10,35 china controller eith Codm en apex support on android kkkkkkk
10 days delivery so ill see when it arive kkkkk
I dont agree. Totally with yoy. I dont see any differnce between a xbox and kishi controller once you got used to it
Even worse it plays great on mobile.....
I think if you have the nancon pro and get used to the feeling you orobably pkay 1 on 1 the same.
Its really great
So yeah try the nancon Pro if you can find a good deal, to see how youre experince is with thay since you can keep the case.
But i only used the kishi for stardew valley and streaming fortnite(xbox)
Since it didnt have codm and apex support i couldnt test it of course.
Had a xbox one bck inthe du days so....
The cheao controller is the replacment now, otherwise i go xbox controller i think for the support.
If nacon BT had support i would buy that 1 i think...
Console controllers are the perfect universal controllers
I have a Razer kishi v1 but I prefer my Xbox series controller with the clip
Do these controllers work with PUBG mobile?
Pubg does not support controllers on mobile.
Xbox elite 2 controller well worth the money, but ⌨️ 🐭 better
I have same setup controller moga clip 😅
Smartphone holder is cheap and the best way to play (original controller) so win-win
Honestly, just don't download the app and it's golden
I play with PS5 and Switch pro controller, both are better than this 3
Xbox Controller is the best way, Remove the Batteries and add a Half inch USB C cable and connect at your phone. You will get less latency.
The stadia community is seething rn
Nah I’m not going back to backbone ever again 🤮 my iPhone 15 pro max get heat up after playing RESIDENT EVIL 7 so I’m done with Backbone I’d rather play this game on my Steam deck and switch
Backbone is the biggest waste of money.
Any phone!!! Lol
How dare you even say i phone 🤮🤮🤮
Why
@@extremex3792 Don't mind him. He still has an Obama phone.
I bought the Kishi V1 when I was using the iPhone 12. Now I have switched to iPhone 14 Pro Max and it won't plug into Kishi at all.🥲