Does It Suck Daily Driving an Affordable Wrangler? 6 Month Jeep Ownership Update!
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What is it like to daily drive a cheap Jeep Wrangler. In this video I give you my full 6-month update and tell you all the details!
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Picked up my '20 Tacoma TRD OffRoad with 6mt in January of 2020 for ~36k. It's been a fantastic daily driver, also the first vehicle I have owned with power widows and mirrors. Glad you are enjoying still having a solid base model with a manual transmission!
Coming from a 2010 jk, I just got a 2023 Willys 2 door in velocity yellow. It's pretty loaded with all the features and I'm stunned how much they've improved EVERYTHING since I got my jk. I'm so in love. Makes driving truly a joy.
I daily drove two door Wranglers for 15yrs (2000 TJ, 2007 JK X, 2016 Willys). Great times and adventures all over the country, but in 2018 traded into a TRD off-road Tacoma as I needed four doors and the utility of a truck, and gave up nothing off road. Hope to own another two door Jeep some day as a fun only vehicle.
If you gave up nothing off road by adding 30” of wheel base & IFS you were never really using the Jeeps anyway
@@mattbrew11 nothing wrong with IFS for what 98%+ of what most people do. The truck has done everything (and in some ways better) what I did with my Jeeps previously. If you want to run the Rubicon then by all means take the SWB Jeep, but again for most other things the Tacoma is plenty capable and well proven. To each their own!
Maybe the Gladiator is a future option. We wanted something different from ever other Taco.
@@airstream16 yeah I like the Gladiator, If it was around in 2018 probably would have gone right into that. But, have been really happy and impressed with the Tacoma so plan to pay it off and keep it. With the Gladiators wheelbase being significantly longer yet, I feel like it needs 35’s pretty much right away to get the proportions/performance right.
@@mattbrew11 I came here to say the exact same thing.
The places I used to wheel back in the day you couldn't even get a taco in.
I currently drive a 2008 JK since I bought it new in 2008. Its a daily driver. Over time there's been mechanical problems but I get it fixed and continue on :)
I have a 2021 2 door JL Sport S. It is almost fully loaded Sport S - has the half door options. I love it. Drives great, comfortable. The kids actually love it. I wouldn't drive anything else.
I love my 2015 2 door Rubicon. Bit of a gas guzzler but the damn thing is a little tank on the trails. Nearly everything I go up and over isn't even a challenge for it.
I daily a 2015 JK 2dr 6spd sport. Its lifted on 35s, hard top and power windows/locks with keyless entry.
Honestly the only time I dislike driving it is when we get these 25mph+ windy days.
Even then its still manageable.
Haha I feel this. I see people back off my ass when it’s windy. It gets a little swervy out there lmao.
Love my 2012 Sport Unlimited with the 6 speed manual. 130k miles and still going strong with zero issues. When it finally dies, I will be getting another one. One you go Jeep, you never go back.
Your videos helped nudge me towards a 23' willy's six speed with a soft top. Love it, and it saved me about 12 grand vs most other Wranglers. Thank you sir
I bought a 2014 Jeep Wrangler Sport S 2 door in December 2013. I paid $29K after rebates, before taxes. I daily drove it for over 7 years, it was fun to drive and comfortable. I only sold it because I had kids and needed something more practical. Don’t listen to other people, enjoy your Jeep! It was the most reliable vehicle I’ve ever owned, literally nothing failed while I owned it. The best part is I traded it in after 7 plus years and got $22K on a trade.
Wish I could tell the same story. At around 20K miles and right after the warranty expired the main CPU module died. About an $1,100 cost. About a year later the oil pressure sensor crapped out($800) and a year later the rear ABS sensors died($750). All after the warranty expired. I averaged about 6.5K miles per year and it was extremely frustrating. You definitely got lucky.
@@Jcruzer70 ugh, sorry to hear that. I guess it’s luck of the draw.
I had the same experience with a 2013 JK sport.
If you are trading it in at the dealership, you really can't trust those numbers... The dealerships will play games with the sale price and trade-in value to confuse you and make you think you are getting a better deal than you really are... To know what you're really getting on your trade-in, you need to negotiate the best deal that you can get on the new vehicle with the assumption that you are not going to be trading in a vehicle... After you get that figure THEN start talking about a trade-in and see what they are willing to give you... You should also get quotes from other used car dealerships like Auto Nation... My experience has been that Auto Nation or Texas Direct Auto will give you quite a bit more than the dealership...
@@CurmudgeonExtraordinaire I negotiated everything separately. I know what I paid for my new car and what I got for the trade and paid the difference. Thanks!
I’ve owned/driven five two door Wranglers since 2000. Started out with my first ordered ‘00 TJ, then three new JKs, and now our JL. Currently own a ‘21 JL80AE with the 2.0T. Love it; best Wrangler to date! My wife stole it from me, so now I DD another car that she used to DD, lol. Wranglers are my favorite DD extant. My wife would agree too. We are averaging approximately 22.5 mpg with 87 octane, in generally city commuting. If we take it on the hwy, we average 25 mpg. These mileage figures are for two doors, without any off road (not raised/no bigger wheels & tires) mods! With the 2.0 T, this Wrangler sprints like a scalded dog! The Alpine stereo is relatively good & we love the heated seats & steering wheel, & the A/C is lights out. The HT is worth every penny…. BTW, get rid of the silly dealer plaque on your Wrangler… Cheers/B
I bought a brand new CJ7, last year they were made, (1986) soft top, soft doors, inline 6, manual transmission, paid 10K for it. Kept it till the kids came along, (not a family friendly vehicle).
I love your Jeep. The short wheelbase, lack of fancy frills,the manual transmission and 4 wheel - drive lever remind me of how trucks used to be.
I drove a VW Jetta and recently bought a 2018 JK Unlimited. I'm a Jeep guy for life now!
I have the same '21 red Willys Jeep but with auto and hard top. I had a TJ with soft top and there are dumb people use knives to break in instead of unzipping it, this can get expensive. I drive the crap out of my new Jeep doing gig work and commuting nearing 19500 miles in 14 months. I get about 17/mpg mostly non-highway miles. I love it and it's been reliable and it's my first new car as well. I have no need for a back seat so I easily popped it out I estimate the new usable space is equal to or slightly more than a 4 door's cargo area. I'm even going to temporarily mini-rv it so I can road trip and save money.
It’s nice to see Tommy and Andre(y?) buying basic trim levels of new vehicles, since most of the press cars are loaded.
No broken window motors. No broken lock actuators. No direct injection carbon buildup. This is a dream!!
I lived with a TJ for like 5 years, still miss it! Love a real key! And I still like using the key for the doors
Love this Wrangler. Classic TFL colors. I know you guys change vehicles often but how about making this the official TFL vehicle and keeping this long term (100k+ miles) for real world long term reviews.
My red 2016 Wrangler is still my favorite vehicle. I've had pickups, some small sedans and a Mustang. It's my absolute favorite....stick shift and all.
On my 3rd wrangler 😆 Got a brand new "2021" white willys 😊 I love it, took the back seat right out, so much better 🤣 Glad I have power windows and door locks too 😀 The 2008 4 door, I had 14 years, raised kids in it, had almost 200,000 miles, I loved it 💙 This one's mine 🚙 ✌️😍
Tommy get some Carhartt seat covers from Covercraft! Seriously, they are the heavy duck material, custom fit and you can wash them. I’ve had them in my ‘16 Power Wagon since new and when I take them off once a year to wash (commercial laundrymat tumble type) my seats still look brand new. They come in the light tan too and the fit is excellent.
The amount of people that have owned wranglers over the years is incredible. A real testament to the vehicle.
You're a brave man to drive in winter with mud terrain tires. I tried that decades ago and they were positively terrifying on ice. I can only imagine what its like in a Wrangler. Not a problem if you live in an area where they clear the roads religiously in winter but I don't live in that area and I'd never think of being stuck in a snow storm during a road trip on mud terrains. Nope, I'd park it. Where I ride, a convertible is out of the question. After one fall season the plastic windows would be scratched up by branches in our narrow trails. You could take them off but I hunt so...no. I still think it the perfect vehicle for someone like you and agree, they are perfectly capable off-road for almost everybody and you don't need a Rubicon like most people. As for that Wrangle. Remote locks are a must specially in winter. I've had too many frozen locks and freezing rain to want to ever use a key again specially for the rear tailgate. For a young person like you its just about perfect. But if I was in your place I would have bought the FJ Cruiser TFL had or if I could find one, a manual one. Its about the same price and better in almost every way except fuel economy. It has remote locks, better ride, as good if not better off-road, no plastic windows, just as reliable, more comfortable, way more roomy and only a little longer. Sure it wouldn't have had a warranty, but they are never useful when you're off-road.
After watching this video. I really want a 2 door willys sport. I've been looking at them for awhile and I think in the next year or 2 I'm gonna purchase one. This has to be the best video for a review. Also my favorite channel!. Now I can't wait to get one!.
Congratulations on your Jeep purchase man it really does feel good when you purchase it with your own money your own name it just makes you feel so good I'm purchasing a 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk 4xe and I've worked hard for the past several years and saved up enough I'm finally getting my dream vehicle and ever since I learned about the 4xe I've gotten stoked for them thank you for the video glad you love your Jeep man. Have a Blessed day y'all
The first vehicle I drove was an 04 TJ, it had over 160k miles and some maintenance issues but I loved every minute of driving that thing.
I agree with having the most simple vehicle possible. Its more reliable. Just needs 4x4, a heater, an A/C, and power locks and windows. The power windows are needed to roll up/down windows in the rear while driving. And the power locks are because its a huge safety hazard to funmble with keys in a parking lot at night trying to unlock your door. Stay vigilant my friends.
I daily drove a TJ to community college every day for 3 years. I had a couple of mechanics trip but hey it got the job done. It's still main vehicle I just don't need to drive it every day anymore since I ride my bike to university.
You're young...many things go don't matter till you start aging. As one gets older, the need for more luxury starts creeping in. Can't roll the passenger side windows down (4 windows for many) when driving or adjust pass mirror. Even electronic folding (in/out) mirrors is so nice. Your tastes will change as you get into late 30's and 40's, then 50's every thing will be digital, power, automatic sensing, computer controlled and soft touch.
Was surprised when he said there were no power door locks. But we have a 4dr 2021 Wrangler, and they are much better daily drivers now than they were a couple of generations ago.
Congrats on your first brand new car! Great choice too. My only gripe is I hate the dual speedometers. Why? Why doesn't Jeep just use a analog speedometer. Get rid of the digital. Keep it simple.
Most people are weak and need fancy things such as everything digital, steering wheel warmers, remote start etc…. If you don’t make vehicles to cater to all that you will be behind on sales!
I don’t own a Jeep so I got no dog in this fight, but before I watched the video I felt you had made a good purchase.
"I don't miss the power window" -- minutes later -- "I should close that window" 😆
People love to crap on Jeeps reliability. Axles made by Dana and are very reliable, transmissions made by aisin and ZF and have been proven, the pentastar has been out 10 years and has been very reliable.
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All this will easily last twice the miles I’ll put on it, but Toyota fan girls need something to be proud of.
True, everything has been very reliable for my 2013 jk 3.6 at 200k miles, just the sensor or something playing up when I hit a bump it goes into limp mode ...
I have a similar infotainment in my Subaru and I love it for all the same reasons you mentioned. They are the best
My ‘23 is supposed to be delivered November 3rd. I ordered the same Wrangler, only option was a tow pkg.
Been daily driving a 2014 sport s with half doors on sides streets and freeways (100k plus) . Limited slip, manual. Stop and go traffic is the only annoyance. Had to replace the upper half doors as could barely see through them, and been driving it with no rear window for the same reason for about a year (sorta stopped noticing and didn't get around to buy another yet). You're right, that heater could cook a turkey. Like those tan seats better than my black. Pentastar "tick" last two years, hasn't affected anything yet.
Had a NA Miata...power windows, power mirrors, AC...but the lack of power locks was a pain in the ass
People dont understand how much better the JL 2 door is than every other previous generation of Wrangler. I daily drive a 2 door Rubicon Recon and it drives better than even a 4 door JK Sahara I used to have. I also used to have a TJ 2 door which was great local but sucked on the highway.
I've always like the wranglers and I personally want a Jeep Gladiator however I am 6' 6 I'm currently driving a ram 1500 and I have plenty of room in it. That is the reason why I haven't bought the Gladiator is because I'm really worried about fitting in it. I don't want my head hitting that bar behind your head in the video. (Also concerned about the leg room) I wish they would make these vehicles with seats that go down lower and further back for taller People. Or an aftermarket company that can accomplish that.
I wish Jeep would add about 12" to the 2-door for just a little more stability and cargo space. I am a bit Jealous when I have to park next to an LJ with my 2-door.
Love locks obviously… However I did almost every trail in Colorado with my Tacoma a few years back and not once used the locker. Sure I didn’t hit the super hard lines but it was still extremely doable without any need to throttle through things. I have the same one but in sting grey with the auto for my wife to enjoy. Great rig. Feels like we can hunt T100’s with them 🇺🇸🤙🏻🤙🏻🇺🇸
6 months is long term? For a Chrysler product…yes, it is.
Shush. This is a manual transmission. It is a base level Wrangler with a guy that knows a lot about cars taking care of it. This is going to last him a very long time i can guarantee just about every word of that! Some jeeps are built SOLID. Not all of them...but that goes for a bunch of cars from the first one to now. Every now and then some models are solid as a diamond and survive just about everything! Jeeps are solid offroaders if taken care of they may last a long time.
😂
Meanwhile my friends Chevy equinox is at 10K and already has a check engine light
Long term on these shows means they didn’t keep it for a week and send it back lol
What a bitch comment.
You are so right about the bikini Pearl metallic. That is a color to die for.
I installed a remote power lock kit in my willys. Among other things.
Yes I don't miss my wrangler at all lol from the wind to the noise to the fuel economy to the lack of towing capacity they all leak eventually hardtop or soft top doesn't matter buy a base model 4x4 1/4 truck & you will be a million times better off, road trip Ina wrangler is a workout you show up tired & exhausted nobody dailys a wrangler after 40 years old unless they a lesbian
Please make an update video about this beautiful Wrangler, and tell us about the wear and tear for the soft top. Any of the plastic windows start to peel off? I'm thinking of ordering the 2025 model but not sure if I should go with the soft top or hard top. Thanks for the video.
I bought a new 2019 JL 2 door Sport S . I paid at the time $33k , was I disappointed , no! The 4 doors are nice but at the base price or in the Sport S at $38-40k its a tad high in my opinion. Jeeps are great , I'll keep mine.
We have a very basic work truck, Dodge Ram 2500 with the 5.9 Cummins. The only thing I wish it had was power locks. It has 4 doors but its also a long reach across the cab to open the front door for someone. I would have paid the extra for power locks.
The 2.0T E-torque gives up nothing in power to the V6 and the wife's been averaging 25-27 mpg in combined city/highway driving. Hopefully it proves to be reliable.
Let's make Jeeps great again 👍
Tommy would love see a side by side comparison of the Jeep vs the FJ
having a hard time deciding between a new willys vs a 2018 rubicon
Hey brother, Thanks for the great vids. I recently purchased the 2022 Glady-Mojave with the 3.6 and 6spd trans and almost Every-time I depress the clutch between 1st and 2nd, 2nd and 3rd, I hear a clunky noise - sounds like there is too much slop in the drivetrain. Jeep is still stock cause I haven’t done any mods yet and it only has less than 1500 miles on it. Been doing it since I got it at the end of Sept. My friend is the service manager at the CJD Dealer and he took it for a long ride with one of his too trans techs and they say its perfectly normal noise. Im 56yrs young and I’ve owned and driven many manual trans cars and trucks - but this chunkiness sounds off to me. I really wanted a manual but I am feeling buyer’s remorse and starting to regret buying it. Does yours make the clunk when shifting too? Thanks, Eddie
On 11-30-2020 I ordered my first ever Jeep. A 2021 JL Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon. I ordered mine with the 3.6 liter Pentastar V-6 with eTorque and an 8 speed automatic transmission. It came in on 02-12-2021 and I took delivery of it about a week and a half to 2 weeks later. So far I totally love almost everything about my Jeep but if I had known that Jeep was going to announce the release of the 392 V-8 approximately 2 weeks after I ordered my Jeep and then the Extreme Recon package later on I would have waited and ordered that instead. My only dislike and hate with my Jeep is the eTorque. I had no idea what it was and didn’t know that the Jeep came with a belt start generator, a big honking second battery under the frame that also has its own coolant system and water pump. I’m sorry but I totally hate that! I would much rather have just a single battery and alternator that can be swapped out on a trail should either one or even both go out. The belt start generator is almost $1,000.00 just for parts and extremely difficult to replace. The eTorque battery is another $2,500 and you cannot replace it unless you have special tools and know how to do so without getting shocked. Then the coolant system for the battery and water pump for the battery coolant system is around another $600.00 to $800.00 just for parts. That is total crap! Eventually I will trade mine in for a 392 V-8 with the Extreme Recon package simply because I hate the eTorque that much! I also have to switch the engine stop/start button off every time I start the vehicle up because that too is totally stupid and will wear the engine out much faster.
That e Torque is standard w/ 8 spd automatics 3.6 ltr. Pentastar V6 ?
@@hondaralph4081, yes it is now unfortunately. When I ordered my Jeep the 2021 orders had just started but not a lot of info was out. As a result of that I found out after ordering my Jeep that it had the eTorque and what it was. I intentionally did not want to 2.0 I-4 Turbo as I wanted something naturally aspirated for better longevity and reliability. I also considered the 3.0 V-6 diesel but it did not have 4:10 gearing. I think it was 3:78 if I remember correctly? And DEF fluid is stupid! If my 3.6 just had a normal alternator and battery then I would have been perfectly fine with it. But oh well, to late now.
@@j.r.777 I hear ya man and thanks for the info 👍
@@hondaralph4081, definitely. I will say though that the warranty for the eTorque components is really good though. I think it’s either 8 years/80,000 miles or 10 years/100,000 miles or a combination of the 2? But because none of those things can be replaced out on a trail or at least replaced easily, I hate them.
@@j.r.777 They backed it up w/ warranty but I see your point ; being stranded out there in no man’s land …
It is still awkward seeing you without your glasses, but kudos, good video!
Daily drive an old YJ for years. No locker. I think at least a rear locker should be standard on all Wranglers
Wouldn't the Turbo though be better at elevation? I know Fiat builds the 2.0T not sure how reliable it is, but I would prefer the Turbo. Get used to the TQ going back to NA kinda sucks. haha no pun intended there haha
Once a Jeeper always a Jeeper
I love my wrangler - but they’re horrible daily driver. Even the expensive ones.
I'm a fan of my 1995 YJ drive it nearly every day. Want to replace my 2.5 angry squirrels with a 4.3 Chevy...
I have a gladiator sport s, it's fun to drive off road and on trails but daily driving and road trips not so much. Interior is cramp and uncomfortable with no real luxury for the price point
Bragging that nothing has gone wring with an engine in the first months is a bit of a strange flex.
I agree. Not sure why TFL and them always act surprised when nothing goes wrong in the first brew months of ownership.
I hate Jeep. But this is the modern Jeep I’d get!
Great video! I really appreciate and value your advice since I am actively searching for a used 2-door JL Wrangler. Are you seeing any corrosion forming on your door hinges, swing gate hinges, or hood hinges? Are there any specific model years to avoid that do not have this corrosion problem? The next time you talk with a Jeep engineer, can you ask them for an update and then post a video to explain what they have done to fix it?
I find it hard to believe Jeep couldn’t sell an inexpensive Wrangler with at least power locks and mirrors. These parts are obviously already developed and paid for already. Jeep is being cheap. Crank windows are cool though.
Perfect Jeep. Would love to own one just like it. Just a different color :o)
Why didn't you order 2 door base Bronco sasquatch, only stretch budget 8000 more ???
What are your thoughts on the Willys Gladiator with a manual? (This is my only affordable option for a Gladiator.)
It would sure be nice if the 2 door was about 6" longer just to boost the trunk space. The 2dr Bronco is a bit longer than the 2dr Wrangler and I think that makes sense. I'd love to buy a 2dr Wrangler, but dang, it is just a bit too small to function as a long term vehicle for a once car household. The 2dr feels a lot like a Mini Cooper inside!
I got lucky and got my rubicon with only 17k mikes for 43 out the door!
27hundred miles in 6 mos doesn’t sound like a daily driver Tommy 😁
Door locks on a vehicle with a soft top are a bit of a placebo anyways.🤫
Damn! now I want one! Cheers.
The Willy's model is a good value, but I didn't think that AC was an option in any vehicle made in 2022. That's pretty chintzy, Jeep.
Its an option because some jeep purists still don’t want it. They want manual everything etc.
power windows and doors are ultra reliable now though. IMO all that should he standard.
It’s not a ranch unless you actually run cattle on it
Do you ever experience a death wobble? Me and my family rented one out in Vermont and as we were driving down the highway, we hit a bump and set off the death wobble, we had to slow way down for it stop. It happened two more times on the trip and I’m wondering if ours was defective or if it can happen to any Jeep?
Just want say how refreshing it is to get a review and honest feedback on an affordable ride. The 90K trucks are interesting but hardly something I would buy. I'd like to see more of this than constant praise of overpriced pickup trucks.
exactly. For $50-90 K I expect a brand new vehicle to be good.
The locker is the one thing that bugs me about the wrangler.
You should be able to get a rear locker option in all trom levels.
While I agree in principle, the BLD system in the Jeeps is the best in the world. If youre lifting tires over big rocks yeah theres no locker substitute but any two door wrangler with good tires can get across the rubicon trail
J8 Military wranglers use BLD with the optional front and rear LSD's.......No stopping to lock diffs when ambushed ;/
@@drtone yea I don’t like the stock lockers cause for example you have load on it in a certain position you can’t lock/unlock it so that’s why ARBs for the win
I have a base JLU Sport 6MT with some fun upgrades near Chicago, would have loved to play show & tell if I had known you guys were in the area
the problem is if an everyday driver locked the locker and forget to turn it of on the regular drive, a hard turn can easitly roll over a wrangler. traction contol is good enough for most use cases. If someone really want to do it hard then dana 60 swap, long arm 37inch tire etc etc is the way to go.
It's refreshing to hear and see this point of view. We've been programmed to think that we need all the extras. Rolling down a window is no big deal! I really hate all the excessive technology. "It just works!" Well said, Tommy.This Willys is a great option.
Its a sad time to buy jeeps when a 35k jeep doesnt even have power windows nor power locks… just no
It’s 35k. Dirty cheap for a new wrangler. What did you expect
@@DrivenHard dirty cheap? Its 35k, it’s probably the only vehicle for that price that dont include something as basic as powered doors. Yes its and offroad vehicle but still too basic for the money, even worse when you consider that its been almost the same jeep since 1996
@@steven402 can’t compare it to other vehicles causes it’s in its own class. New wrangler is $50k plus. So yes $35k for a bare bones basic is dirty cheap
My 2002 TJ was a little less than $23k new which is exactly 35k now
@@mattbrew11 the problem isn’t the 35k it’s being as barebones as this for that price. Its sad that 20 years later they are offering c rap base interior specs that don’t even include something as basic as power doors when its competition can do it
The 2dr Willys is one of the sharpest looking rides out there! In a world where everything is 4 doors and excessively huge, it's a breath of fresh air.
"In a world where everything is 4 doors and excessively huge" - try fiting into Miata :)
Excessively small
It's also an overpriced shit bucket with tech from 20 years ago
@@drunkhusband6257 Is there cheaper off-roader with similar characterists (4wd, short/mid base, high clearance)? Sad thing - even after Wrangler got unreasonably expensive - there is still no cheaper option on the USA market, since rest is proced much higher.
@@henrikhkarpynskyi8712 Yeah there is, just buy an old small pickup or suv, upgrade to a decent suspension and a lift, bang for 1/3 of the cost of a wrangler
A few months a go I bought a Jeep Gladiator sport s. It was also the largest purchase outside of my house at $46k. I am a VW fanatic so this purchase was a huge leap for me. I absolutely love it and I can wait to take the top and doors off this summer.
I was cross shopping a jeep with a golf R. Who does that?? :D
@@tortuga7160 totally different vehicles but clearly I understand.. the golf R is awesome.
Bought a 4 door Wrangler 3 months traded the Jeep renegade lost power doors and windows getting the Wrangler but I got more power
If you are a VW fan then you may actually be pleasantly surprised by the Gladiators reliability.
@@edhcb9359 I have owned 17 VWs and all have been reliable for me. From 2015 and up the reliability of Volkswagen has been excellent compared to the older models.
I love the fact that for someone who runs a car channel, reviewing new cars and holding them against current standards, for his own driving pleasure basically returns to eighties standards and raves about it. Don't get me wrong, I fully and wholeheartedly agree with your decision and conclusion as if it were my own. What I would love to see, not only on this channel but on all channels, is to show some more restraint on the eagerness to accept the next plateau of minimum requirements. Every year the next gen car pushes both the weight, price and service scope of a car well beyond what is achievable for a lot of people. Nowadays a car is practically totaled if you damage a bumper severely enough, so to speak.
All the technical requirements, the elevated standards for materials, that annoying tendency to have the entire interaction with your car, other than the actual driving, through these bloody screens, onboard infotainment and onboard tech including wireless charging, apple carplay, massive satnavs, additional safety features like lane keep assist and autonomous driving, I could go on and on about all that stuff that make all these cars outpace and out-price most of our wallets, when all we want to do is feel free like a bird, driving, eating asphalt and creating memories and share moments. Your car is more than adequate for that. I would choose yours in a heartbeat and never look back. thanks for the great review!
The entertainment of driving for driving's sake is a lost thing, I'm afraid. For me, to get that experience, I ride my motorcycle. And even those are getting taken over by nanny helpers these days. Shame.
Glad you like your Jeep, Tommy! You are paying for it so you better! For us, we just traded in our old tired WK2 for a newer used WK2. The price on new cars is outrageous. Our new rig listed for $48k in 2015! It's pretty optioned up and we love the creature comforts, but I would never pay that for a vehicle. For $25k we got a very nice rig which will do light off roading when we want it to and drive in comfort the other 99% of the time.
Jan Willem -Yes!
It drives me nuts how many car reviews go on at length about things like heated seats and whether it has a 9.1 or 9.2 inch infotainment screen, but completely gloss over the actual details of the drivetrain. They go on about soft touch plastics and ding cars points if they are too "utilitarian" or feel "cheap" but seldom talk about how well that surface will wear or how likely it is to break if kids/pets/rowdy friends aren't gentle with it. Reviews also put excessive focus on things like 0-60 time; A 70s Chevelle SS could do that in 6 seconds, a 2022 V6 Wrangler with a stickshift can do it in 6.1, a Toyota Camry can do it in 5.1. Yeah the Jeep is "slow," but that is relative. Its almost as quick as a "fast" car from yesteryear.
@@circlingoverland4364 Exactly. Hate that nagging about "soft surfaces". The seats need to hug me, if at all possible, the rest I couldn't care less, don't need a hug from my dash. If I get that far the dash is hugging me, something else went horribly wrong, either in traffic, and it was unsolicited, or at home and then I have a whole different set of issues to worry about...
I think the red makes your specific trim pop and turned out to be an excellent choice. I think you should do some more off-road comparisons against anything else out there to show just how smart this buy was. You are a smart man Tommy, although power options would be a must for me..
That is inexcusable that a $33K vehicle has no power windows or locks.
EDIT: AND A/C IS AN OPTION?!?
less things to break.
It’s what their market wants at that price point. Why you so surprised over that
Also only real use for the power windows - when you go to drive-through or pay toll. When market forces you to buy basic jeep for 30K+ - you not going to drivethrough for next 5-6 years anyway and avoid tollroads. "Rice and beans" (c) :) :) :)
Its not inexcusable. Its a jeep its done because some people still want those things. You’re a whiny btch steve
@@mattbrew11 Yawn.
Wow! $35k for that isn’t worth it. You can get so much more for your money.
I would love to get one of these versions here in Germany. We can only buy the 4xe für 75.000,-€ or the 392 für 123.000,-€ thats sick! And also sad, because the short version is no longer allowed here in Europe. I am driving a compass now for 4 years and after BMW and VW it is my best car ever. I am now waiting for an full electric short Wrangler perhaps in 2023..?
Otherwise I will emigrate to the US which is for me the holy land. Europe is only sick. Enjoy your nice jeep👍❤️🇺🇸
when you move to the U.S.A. to drive your Jeep get a concealed carry permit and you can carry a Ruger GP100 with you on the trails
That’s so ironic because the 2 door gets BETTER mpg than the 4 door. Europe is whack for that.
I bought this same vehicle with LED lights. My favorite 4x4 of all time. Thanks for posting.
How do they justify charging that much for so little. Crazy town.
9:10 I thought I heard an F bomb lol…. I think you sold me on buying a Willys 2 door.
I used to own. 87 CJ7 in Hawaii and miss it every day.
Funnest car in America besides only one problem pure junk overrated uncomfortable unreliable and a pain in the ass for me when they roll into my shop I'm a mechanic had two Jeeps they are junk if you like Jeep so much I want to fix these beautiful things up you must have a lot of money or your other option is not to buy one now if you really like Jeeps I would strongly suggest trading it in after the second year for another Jeep that's how you avoid the problems okay good luck these cars are so overrated I swear I hate working on them you're such a pain in the ass
The only problem about this Jeep is the price …..
Yep, about $10k overpriced.
I have almost 50,000 miles on my 2D 2018 JL: the windshield wipers stopped working and had a warped cylinder head (V6). That was very surprising. Thankfully covered under warranty. Overall, I love the thing! Good fuel economy!
Fiat, or Maserati by the same logic, actually has better reliability ratings than Toyota does in the modern year. And my real life experiences reflect that. I bought a JL over 3 years ago, it's been heavily abused off road and daily driven on road. It hasn't had a single issue in my ownership and it's had 3 oil changes. My buddy bought a Tacoma about a year after I bought my wrangler. He's never gone on more than so much as a gravel road with it. Despite that, his truck has managed to need a new battery, a new alternator and even a whole new transmission. sitting about $5.5k in repairs in just two years. The notion that Jeep is plain unreliable and Toyota is reliable is about 20 years dated.
So the cylinder head warped under 50k miles and you think its still good, and no it doesn't have good fuel economy
@@drunkhusband6257 the warped cylinder head was repaired. I averaged about 25 mpg in my 2 door on over a 2,000 mile trip. That is way better than I anticipated. For what it is, good fuel economy.
Is yours hardtop? Is the ride not as bad as some peoole say?
I'm getting 24.5 mpg average day-to-day in my 2.0 etorque jlu. My last road trip back from Moab to SLC I averaged out at 30.0 mpg. It's been reliable all the way and I've had no recalls and no issues despite getting high centered and slammed down on many components. Had it since jan 2019. Sits a bit lower than I'd like being stock, but it still outwheels my buddies tacoma that has 33's and a 3.5 inch lift.
Lol good luck
I think you made a good choice keeping it simple. Its getting hard to do 🇨🇦.
The Willy’s 2 door jeeps and pentistars are going to skyrocket in value when the gas powered wrangler is no more. Base trim means no electronic bs to worry about the pentistar is honestly starting to look like the tundra v8. In my opinion the Willy sport is right next to the rubicon for being the best vehicle that jeep currently makes. This generation will go down in history as one of the best. I look forward to seeing it in more off-road adventures
There is no way in hell we’ll see the death of the gas wrangler any time soon. Jeep makes to many gas powered wranglers and makes too much money off them. Not to mention the infrastructure for charging stations is not where it needs to be.
What a refreshing attitude and great review. We get programed that more is always better and many times it is just more to worry about. Your jeep looks fantastic and I'm glad you are enjoying it to its fullest.
I had a 2002 TJ 4l/auto on a RE long arm kit & 35s I daily drove for 14 years, putting nearly 275k miles on it. My 16 year old nephew is about to inherit the Jeep and now its got almost 400k on it Other than having a hard top it is way more spartan than this and I loved every day of it.
2005 TJ Unlimited 5-speed with only 130k. Looking forward to driving it into the dirt. Enjoying the fact that I will never be carjacked because kids don't know WTF a clutch is.