Don't OVERSPEND! I Off-Road My New Cheap Jeep Wrangler To Prove You DON'T Need a Rubicon!
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2024
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In this video, I hit the Moab trails in my new Jeep Wrangler to prove you DON'T have to spend a lot to have a ton of fun!
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Intro & Baby Lions Back
2:30 Wrangler Willys Walkaround
3:58 Why Solid Axles? Demonstration
5:20 Water Fording - Too Deep?
8:46 Fins & Things
10:17 V-Notch
12:48 Frame Bender
13:48 One Tree Hill
15:33 Butt Clencher
16:19 Butt Scratcher
17:20 The Wrap-Up - Do You REALLY Need A Rubicon (No!) 
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Ppl often forget that Fiat Gladiator has only semi decent ground clearance too
Landrover defender is better than the jeep 😉
First post on this channel. What a great video wish it was longer great “tests “ of the Jeep
Excellent video! We need more videos that bring common sense back into off-roading.
🤫 sshhh. Don't say common sense too loud. You will offend the book worms. 😄
This is so true.Basic 4x4's created the off road hobby.
@@TheMeanmarine13 And the aftermarket.
Yeah for sure. I couldn't justify taking a $50K plus vehicle off road. It wouldn't be fun for me, I'd be so worried about bending it!
@@TimRHillard ah the new ones just don’t bend like they used to
Smart man Tommy. Got a good jeep, and didn't spend an arm and a leg. No need to peacock.
Plus he paid cash which really reduced the cost.When you pay outright for a new vehicle you tend to appreciate like he does.
I agree. This is thr best budget for ur money.
However, i found, a 2013 jkr with 14k miles n had to obv pay up for it, with the market the way it is. However, in 2013 a very loaded jkr was 40k that was the msrp n i paid under 10k to that so imo i got a damn good deal on a damn good wrangler. N its a 10a package with metal bumpers. So its literally cheaper than buying this jeep he has new and it has front n rear lockers, sway dis, n all that is obv built in, so theres no unwelcoming buttons that dont look stock if u do the same to a sport, which isnt hard, just takes some money.
So ur gonna be into a sport 40k im9 to get the same thing as a rubicon.
My point is, the alternative to buying a new jeep is either a super low mile older one, if u can find it for the right price n now is not the time to do that. I still in all honesty probably overpaid, but its drives amazing down the highway even at 80mph, it has 410's front n rear. Leather n they're heated. Has the better climate control. Its an auto. Its literally the most expensive jkr u could of bought in 2013 so fr its like buying it new, but just now. Yeah its a jk, n yeah its a 2013 which to some is scary. Not all 2012's were affected by that engine issue n even less 2013's were. The proof is in how many you can look n see with 100 plus k right now for over 15 grand still. So the way i see it, its a secondary car for me, technically 3rd, a 2019 taco, 2010 subaru outback the daily work car n now jeep wrangler.
So to drive my point home yet again, buying older is an option to get more of what u want at a reasonable price. Just keep in mind the cost of new.
Domt go buy a 2018 with 70k miles for 28k just because its a Sahara, when u can spend a couple grand more n get a brand new jeep.
Haha. Peacock. Hadn't heard that but I like it
@@_notbrandon Hi,this one is his personal vehicle.When he first introduced this rig he stated buying it for himself and saving enough to buy it and pay for it in full.Doesn't like debt.
110% AGREE!! just a mild leveling kit, rocker sliders, a good set of 33's and ditch lights in my JLU 4 door. That's all I have planned so far. Maybe a winch.
Has being awesome in the snow and rural roads. Love Wranglers!
As a new Jeep owner, one thing I have learned is, non-Jeep owners will always tell you exactly how you should modify your Jeep.
Yes they do lol
It's funny how Toyota owners keep telling me I need much larger tires than they have, and I already have larger tires than they do.
@@KTMcaptain so funny
I’m a bronco owner and I admire wranglers all the time. I LOVE my bronco, but I totally understand and can appreciate a nice jeep. Hope to see you out there! 2 door black diamond in shadow black
Truest statement ever
I really think a Jeep looks best as a 2 door and these JL’s with 33’s or 35’s are perfect
Totally Agree!
I agree. We’re a minority on this one. So many 4 doors.
Those 4 dr limos are abominations. Jeeps have 2 doors! These 2 dr Willys Jl's are solid in stock form, 32's are more than enough to handle some great wheelin' adventures with Jeepers like Tommy, who have common sense and good off-road instincts. Stick with 32's, they are perfect and you will never have to mess around with correcting geometry! That's what makes these stock Willys Jl formats so appealing.
I agree my 2 door JK Willys in my opinion looks great with a leveling kit and 33's. Keep it simple.
Red and 2 door, great combination!
I love how passionate Tommy is about his car I feel the same way about mine.
jeep... Ahem
It’s not a car🤦♂️🤡
Tommy, you know...this was a great video. I hope you read this.
Your points are spot on. You don't NEED all the cool crap to have fun off-road.
The 2 door wrangler is an amazing rig.
Great content. It is good to hear your take on these rigs. Your off-road experience and recommendations are spot on.
Thanks! -Tommy
Indeed. For as little as $150 you can add a swaybar quick disconnect that gives your front solid axle as much articulation as you want.
OR $20 AT Menards
Or just manually disconnect them for free... it takes less than 5 minutes.
This video needed to exist. Debunking myths about needing crazy mods to have some fun and not a break the bank! Unless you off road for a living. Don’t need too many mod’s!
Honestly seeing you take the factory willys and Bronco to these trails and doing them so easily makes you wonder why modify them at all haha.
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@@iankovac1878 lmao! 😄
Yep no need! Just people wanting to waste money
I mean a rear locker will get you out of places that normal 4wd cant escape. But other than that the stock willys in two door has pretty amazing angles.
I love the fact you use a stock jeep to show folks how capable they are. All we usually see is jeeps with thousands of dollars of upgrades which stops most people from enjoying off roading.
I’ve always loved 2 door wranglers. That’s all there was when I was a kid. To me, a 4 door wrangler just doesn’t feel like the real deal.
I always felt the same way about 2 door jeeps. But WOW the 4 door has much much more cargo space and a lot smoother ride. You can’t go wrong with either 2 or 4 doors. It’s a Jeep wrangle need not say any more. It only took me 70 years to figure it out.
Because it's not! The 4 dr limos are abominations. I can't stand to look at them. Like spotting an obese woman on the beach in a speedo, I have to turn away.
Yes! Exactly! I have more respect for the older Cherokees as 4 door Jeeps opposed to these bastardized 4 door Wranglers.
I was the same way which is why I bought a 2dr. Like someone else mentioned, I do wish I had the extra storage space that comes along with the 4dr. With that being said, I love my jeep and wouldnt change a thing.
I felt the same way about 2 door jeeps until I became familiar with the 4 door model. The smoother ride and extra cargo space you get with the 4 door makes them the better buy for me. If I were single and didn’t have a family I’d be the 2 door with the doors off all day long!
Might want to check your differentials after that water crossing just too make sure you didn't get too much water ingress.
The axle stock breather hose usually end just at the top of the tires.
Great job Tommy! Don't ever underestimate yourself. You do a fine job!
Agreed, indeed 👍
Thanks for speaking about the pressure to modify your Jeep. I drive a stock TJ and have no plans to modify it except for undercarriage protection. I think people get waayyy to caught up in all that stuff.
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But it’s so fun to upgrade if affordable
Stock Jeeps are plenty capable especially with 31" - 32"all terrains. The aftermarket has fooled everyone into thinking you need this and that to do any off roading. That's nonsense and people with little to no off road skill drop insane amounts of 💰💰 on aftermarket parts they don't need! You really do a number on your suspension and wallet. Stock suspension geometry is best left alone.
In the 70s we did rubicon trail in a 53 willys Jeep 15” tires no lockers never had a problem an never had any damage just love your 2 door great stuff tommy as always be safe 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Had a little stock manual 1998 TJ 2 door straight fuel injected petrol six and was very basic, it could go over anything up snowy hills , mud, sand , steep rocky fire trails , you name it can handle it , no winches and no diff locks and never got stuck, the secret is the shorter wheel base and light weight . Easily turning around on tight narrow trails and the break over angles superior to the 4 door version an amazing 4x4 !
14:23 This is correct. Also, as a Jeep mechanic who has changed clutches on Gladiators and Wranglers, get the automatic. The clutch plates (it has a dual clutch/pressure plate set-up) on the manual is very small given the size of the vehicle and the stuff you can do off-road. So the automatic is not only easier to drive off-road, it's also more reliable.
And it has even deeper first gear right?
But now to get V6 auto you have to get etourque. 🙄
@@shadow105720 no the auto has a taller 1st gear.
Been wheeling a stock jk with a 1” lift, open diffs, and 33s for years. No need for massive lifts and huge tires. Jeep in stock form is more capable than most would expect.
Went from a 4 door jk with 3” and 35’s to a stock 2 door JL rubi and it’s so much more fun. 40’s are awesome, but there’s no challenge at that point it’s basically a tractor.
There is a lot to say about being "overbuilt" and then nothing is really as fun anymore. I was following my buddies in built up Wranglers in Colorado. It was rough, but not a challenge to them and they were bored. Meanwhile, I was in my small lift WJ with essentially street tires having a blast and overcoming some serious challenges for me. So my two cents is, why build to the point of boredom?? Off roading is meant to be fun and challenging!
Probably the most fun offroading I've ever had was in my 88 Buick Century. Front wheel drive and bald tires...
Haha, I know what you mean. Had a 87 Chev Celebrity FWD on snow tires, went some crazy places off-road with that.
Tommy,
Love your humor, humility and honesty.
Your Dad did good!
Jim W
Love the message in this one Tommy, great video! I've taken my 4 door JK Sahara for minimum 2 offroad trips a year since I got it new in 2012 and you can do some extremely difficult and challenging terrain on stock tires and ride height that allows you to explore all kinds of areas you'd never otherwise see. That adventure and exploration is the core of what a Jeep is all about in my opinion. People get caught up in crazy lifts, massive tires, lockers ect but the reality is you'd be surprised just how capable a stock Wrangler is, and as long as you're not climbing boulders, and trying to do massive rock drops, there's almost nowhere you can't make it through. Don't let having a stock Jeep keep you from getting out there and exploring! Glad you're enjoying your new Wrangler.
Great video. I'm 78 and finally got my "Jeep". I've had other 4x4s for snow, sand and dirt roads
but not for real off roading. You've showed you can go off roading without getting crazy.
I really respect your humbleness, as always great review!
Yep, everyone says the Dana 35 won't make it. I have taken it everywhere in Colorado on trails under an 8. No problem. People just feel the need to rain on your parade.
Tommy i couldn't agree more with you. I have a stock 99 Suzuki jimny. The only thing I changed were the tires to a good set of A/T tires. I am surely having fun off road
I’m loving it, if I were buying a Jeep this is exactly what I would want. But in white!
Great video. Couple things I would’ve done differently at that crossing though. First, always check the depth of the water before driving through if you’re unsure. Second, you need to pick a gear and power through the water to create a bow wave. Idling through is how you flood engines and diffs. Speaking of which, you should consider checking the diffs for water and consider a cheap diff breather mod (can be done for under $100).
“Point and squirt.”
Spectacular video, and very much agreed. Love this Jeep.
Thanks for the info Tommy! Finally took delivery of my Gecko Green two door Willy's sport! A/C, 2.0 turbo and Auto are the only options I picked on my build. It's so much fun!
I think his solo videos are the best produced. No quick cuts, just straight and to the point. This is making me want to reconsider getting a jeep.
Brilliantly done for a one guy operation. Kudos.
Thank you Tommy for yet another great and informative video complete with your honest and witty sense of humor. Thanks to some of your input and plenty of research we pulled the trigger on a 2022 JLU Willys, pentastar, automatic with some extras and absolutely no intention of lifting or modifying the stock wheels and suspension. Perhaps a leveling kit eventually just for aesthetics. We are about 2 weeks into what may be a 16 week waiting period for our new Jeep and my research has now turned to the first reasonable and must have mods that don't include a suspension lift and wheels. Thanks again for the video.
When we were looking at new keeps the salesman directed us away from a Rubicon and to a Willys. Said it’ll go toe to toe with a Rubicon on almost every trail and is a better on road vehicle. While we haven’t had it off road I have no doubt of it capability. Thanks Tommy for showing off this little gem.
Manual windows?! Awesome 😎
Nice video tommy. You bought the perfect jeep for you. Wish more people understood how to do what's right for themselves and not what's right for everyone else! Keep up the great off-road videos!
You’re worried about fitting in at a Jeep press event with muddy pants? I thought that would be a requirement for entry. 🤣
Right?! Give that man an upgrade 😂
Yes! More content of this Jeep please! Might want to be mindful of your clutch when in the water though. It looked like you came to a dead stop when your lower doors were under then started up again which makes me think you might have had the clutch engaged which can suck water into it and cause issues.
Keep it up though!
check out wayalife channel. he wheels bone stock jeep.might find interesting
4th year owning my 2 door JK Willys. All i've modded is some wheel spacers and bigger tires, and JKS quick disconnects. This Jeep has been everywhere in the Western US, lots of fun trails, pretty much every terrain imaginable, never once got stuck in Mud, Snow, Sand, Rocks, Water. A 2 door Wrangler is a truly amazing vehicle.
You can really tell you REALLY were loving your jeep and having so much fun with it. Awesome video and great jeep
He loved his JK too it was pretty sweet, also a 2 door. Don't know what happened to it though. Probably sold it.
This is literally his JK what are you taking about?
@@franksmith8210 No it is not. That Jeep he has now is the JL.
Absolutely love my Gladiator Willys Sport!
Love seeing the stock rig without 20k more mods go offroad! Well done as usual
I really like this basic Jeep. No electronics to break when it gets old.
“They don’t pay me enough to come up with the names” 😆👍
Absolutely one of the BEST REAL WORLD REVIEWS! and Yes a very solid and capable vehicle! you seriously don't need to spend half as much as you paid for your vehicle to have a great time off road. Now if ya just gotta have the cool factor and be a mall crawler, ok...Love this real world stuff. Thank you
Tbh I cannot stand the transfer case in the Rubicon, coupled with the inability to use the rear locker separately makes it useless on my trails.
lol k
On my ‘03 and my ‘14 Rubicons you can lock rear diff by itself or rear and front diff simultaneously . (Can’t lock just front diff by itself). I would assume it’s still that way on new models.
Love seeing vids like this. I had a '13 JK soft top, 6 speed, soft top sport back in the day though I lifted and put 33's on it. You can get away with a LOT in a 2 door with the great approach, breakover and departure angles along with good AT tires aired down for the conditions. You can even get through situations where you'd normally want lockers by using some momentum, though sending it comes with risks. What the vid doesn't get at is the rest of offroading and day to day use. Harder crawling, desert running, road tripping in more comfort, towing, overlanding with a family and so on. That's where some of these more expensive vehicles *DO* end up being worth the money. That's why it pays to look at what you're actually going to use the vehicle for and take it from there, rather than just randomly buying 'the best'.
Many years of doing challanging trails driven in a variety of offroad vehicles has served to calm my nerves even in real "butt clenching" situations. The exception is deep water crossings... That always pushes my blood pressure to the max.
Nicely done, you are the man!
The Willys sport was a great deal. The front brake locking differential is really impressive especially bundled with rear lsd. I'd disconnect the front sway bar for sure when going in trails. Would probably replace any specialized sway link bolts with regular bolt heads to make disconnecting easier.
you can get quick disconnects from JKS for like under 200 bucks. Sure its a manual way of doing so but if you don't wanna spend upwards of 50k on a rubicon for majority shit you don't need those are def a good solution.
I actually have the Willy's Gladiator with a couple more features added.
Love it and would love to have a 2 door as a second vehicle. Thanks for the vid Tommy!
Super pleased with my 2-door Rubi, which I primarily chose for its shorter length, great maneuverability off-road and navigating urban tight squeezes. My rig will stay stock long as it is mine. Get plenty of use out its various optional bells 'n' whistles. Planned to leave rear seat in the garage before purchase and that is where it collects dust. Been usually solo off-roading some 30+ years. Used a come-along once after slipping through mud into a ditch in Baja back country, no damages. That was my only "bad" experience, well, just real muddy.
Love this video. It just shows you dont need to be crazy and break yourself for a great off-road vehicle.
Looks like a great value pkg for the Jeep. It is nice to see that there are options
with manual roll up windows, transmission, etc. Perhaps a winch - down the road
would be a nice add on. Happy Trails !!
Awesome video!! Love seeing how much a pretty basic JEEP can do.
Makes a great point about spec-ing the vehicle correctly from the factory and not needing to go spend another $10-$15k to have a very capable 4x4
I appreciate what you're tying to say about keeping things affordable. I got a used 2015 Willys that I have worked hard to keep relatively stock, with no lift or bigger tires, and I have to say it has really paid off. There's nowhere I want to go that I have been unable to go. Love these updates on your rig!
I’ve also got a 15 Willys. No lift, but I did decide to put 35s on it.
By far best video series you guys are doing!
Love these more realistic off-road rigs
I would agree on your jeep. I have a wrangler sport s with positive traction, hard top (and soft top used), and automatic transmission. Basically yours with steel rims.
The positive traction makes off road better because you get more than two wheels pulling. That can really make a difference.
I love your approach to your Jeep, enjoying everything it already has without feeling like you need mods to make it “perfect”. Two-door wranglers have pretty great proportions, aesthetically, but the Willys makes it even more so. More content like this please!
Tommy, I'm pretty sure my coffee would have spilled going down that hill into the deep water haha. Even on camera that is very impressive, I can only imagine the view in person.
I would get yourself a set of waders and toss them in the back of that budget rig. They are about $30...
water shoes and trunks are even cheaper.
Budget rig... when I think of a budget rig I'm thinking $4000, not 33k 😂
@@grantvonhagen6999 Thanks for splitting that hair. Budget new Jeep...sheeesh...
I did my research, was on budget. And manage to get used 2018 Jeep JLU for 29k with only 10k miles. And the only thing I did was bought slightly bigger AT tires and scored a brand new rubicon suspension set for 100$. That alone gave me a 1-1/2 inch lift. And I can pretty go anywhere. I live on Navajo reservation and test it where ever I can. Also took it down devils stairs in Sedona. I live my Jeep Jl 😎
Great showcase of how capable the stock Jeeps are. My JKUR has a 4" lift running 35s while my wife's JKU Sport is still stock. We have had an absolute blast exploring in both.
I love seeing people take stock vehicles thru trails. Modern vehicles are so capable
Those FJs are cool as hell. Wish Toyota would bring em back. Concerned about the power train that's going to be put in the new 4runner. I'd rather have a naturally aspirated one or even a hybrid version over turbo charging for reliability reasons.
Excellent video, very inspiring and 100% technically correct. Additional kudos for being able to film this from different angles while travelling alone, that is not easy :)
Tommy great video I love how real you are. One free upgrade that makes a huge difference is to just disconnect or even remove your sway bar. You don’t need a rubicon with the electronic disconnect. Climb under there with a wrench before you go out. I actually like running with no sway bar all the time even on road. Or if you’d rather spend a little money you can get a quick disconnect kit that’s still done manually you can purchase and install that.
Thoroughly enjoying this series.
Definately get those quick disconnects. Super cheap and easy and saved me from rolling my jeep sport more than once.
@TFLoffroad hey Tommy, don't forget to check your front and rear differential fluid anytime after fully submerging the axles in deep water like that. People often overlook that and you'd be surprised how much water can get in there, plus it's super easy to check and/or change differential fluid since the JL and JT have both a fill plug and a drain plug and you don't have to remove the pumpkin cover like on previous models. Would probably make a cool video too, showing people how much water can infiltrate the axles when you frequent the deep stuff!
Great video, Tommy! I've been over Baby Lion's Back and Fins & Things various times. That water hazard on the backside of Baby Lion's Back was always one of my favorite things at Moab (when it was full of water). I watched this video of yours from the home my wife and I bought on Molokai in 2019. Reminded me of Moab and all the great fun we used to have there. Superb driving, and I, for one, greatly appreciate your comments as to what Jeeps need and don't need to provide plenty of fun off the road. Keep up the great work!
Very true!
The reason I go off road is to see the scenery.
Get out an enjoy!
I like seeing scenery in video games like Pokémon and Snowrunner. In real life for some reason I can not care less. In the game it's like: "Wow! That's super breathtakingly beautiful!". In real life: "C'mon it's just a stupid swamp, mosquitos are killing me"
@@ldmtag
To each
His own
Amazing performance by that Jeep! I'm motivated to do MOAB now!
i gotta say. I love the content and how it is presented by this guy. Awesome video, awesome offroad knowledge
Hey Tommy. Thanks again for making a fun and informative video. I really enjoy how you guys include great off-road locations with product details. And we will see you on the next one.
Man I really appreciate this video. you did a great job this review and video I hope you and the team make more videos like this and on new car
Congratulations on the new car Tommy! You've been working really hard making great videos and you deserve this.
I'm wondering what he uses his Jeep for. He's always busy driving press cars at work and, from what I heard in the videos, they even drive them for private needs. Nathan once said he had been driving Niro EV home or something. I'm really curious if a car journalist even needs to own a car.
It’s not much different than gun reviewers. They usually on a gun or two (Or a hell of a lot more but we really don’t get to know 😂) Because they can keep them long-term and abuse them. Review cars/guns often have conditions
Excellent video. Great info for new Jeepers that have questions!
Just got my first JL. 2018 Sahara. It's a tank. Gonna do a RC 2.5" lift, some rock sliders, skid plates and a winch. And assorted camping gear. And it came with 35" mud terrains. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna be fine lol lots of rubicon mall crawlers around me that are always spotless with 40" tires, 10k wheels and a 6" lift.
Excellent video! The tires on the Willy's do help.
Awesome video! A lot of good info and you got to show why Utah is awesome.
Excellent video Tommy. Love that you went with the basic what you need Jeep. Crazy capable. The break over is great with the 2 door. I like the pricing. Thank you for putting up your own vehicle.
Great video! I own a 2015 version! And I love it! I had amazing fun with it, and I’ve never upgraded anything like suspension, diff locker’s ext! The only thing I have replaced, is the tires for Goodyear Duratrac’s! I have owned since new, and it’s been amazingly reliable. Keeping all the maintenance. That’s the most important thing you can do to keep your vehicle running tops! Great video!👌😎👍
Get some quick disconnects for that front swaybar Tommy! Or an anti rock for a little more ease.
You tell them Tommy!! I had some of the greatest adventures and wildest wheeling in my 2000 TJ Sport. Just a heads up as someone who has done a ton of deep water crossings, you’re pretty much fine up to the headlights (I’ve seen higher but that’s my rule). I’d extend your breather tubes or clean your diffs out after deep fording. Also, don’t have the clutch depressed while fording water, pick a gear and get through it. Nice vid tho!
Your smile off-roading tells the complete story. No you don't have to spend crazy amounts of money to have a great time out on the tracks. So spend what you can afford, pick the tracks that your vehicle can do and have a good time. When you first purchased the Jeep I commented that I think you made a great choice. I still stand by that statement.
I want to thank you for this video. I have a Willys on order and was questioning if I should have gone with the Rubicon. This video really shows that you can enjoy some off-roading in a stock Jeep.
Nice looking Jeep Tommy. Like you said though you shouldn't go alone, but out there at least there is other traffic.
Tommy you won't put your warranty in jeopardy by changing gears to 3.73's. Good video showcasing relatively cheap Jeep
Good suggestion.
Thanks, Tommy! Always enjoy your commentary and thoughts on the rigs you are driving.
Great video. I love my 10 month old, 2021 Sarge Green, Jeep Wrangler, unlimited sport. 4 door with the 2L turbo & 8 speed auto trans. It gets my boat & trailer over some steep hills, into the hard to reach fishing spots.
Really like these style videos. You bought exactly what you needed and nothing more. The modification game is overrated.
More of these please. Love the channel and how you have informative episodes along with performance ones. Would like to see more performance oriented content.
Took your example Tommy and went and got a Sport S, Black & Tan edition. It’s fantastic! It was used with less than 14K miles on it. It can truly go anywhere and it’s all about the fun…which it is. Thanks for all your reviews and advice!
Out of context TFL: “That LSD kicked in super quick!”
😂😂
I noticed the same thing. “And we started spinning” haha
Who'd have thought that Tommy would be a Hunter Thompson fan. Come to think of it, "The Fear & Loathing" channel has the same initials. Hmmmm....
I have a loaded Gladiator Rubicon and I take it of road all the time. It's almost completely pinstriped. I bough it to go places.
Nicely done video Tommy! Great job off road skill driving!
Nice vid as usual! Coming from a '20 diesel 4 dr, and now in a '21 2 door Willys manual, I found the 2 dr at over 1k lbs lighter than the JLURD to be much more nimble and easier to drive off road. 35's would be nice off road, but I went with stock Rubi takeoffs (33's) with BFG KO2's, and they do just fine in most instances.
You guys should go to Hurricane UT and do a crossover with Matt's Off Road Recovery...
I agree