Taylormade M5 vs Epic Flash SZ Fairway Woods
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
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txg.ca - Testing the Taylormade M5 fairway wood against our current leader in the clubhouse, the Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero! See how they compare on important metrics such as ball speed, launch angle, spin rate and forgiveness!
Filmed at: Tour Experience Golf
Custom Golf Club Fitting Studio - Toronto, Canada
Featuring: Ian Fraser & Matt Blois
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I just can't put into words how good these guys are.
Callaway has been the bench mark in fairway woods since 2013 love the videos guys
James Harrity cobra fw woods have. Wilson has been in irons
really appreciate the extra close up shots of the clubs when you are talking about them. Helps out a lot to see what your are describing
You guys still put out best info. I would like to see test where the player club speed is 105 to 110 where most players live. Matt is in the 1% club head speed.
Last week at my local driver range, I tested this club out...it is SOLID. If you are getting fitted with a full set of Taylormade driver and hybrid, then this 3-wood should be in your bag. The price should NOT be an issue given its performance. I tested it vs my TS3 and I had zero issues with it. An outstanding 3-wood for sure. Lastly, thank you for also showing us how, once again, the importance of using a ball that suit a players skill level.
The week just gets better when you guys release a video
Decisions, decisions, decisions....how do you guys fill a bag for yourselves will all the amazing gear you test and then test more all over again. Love that there is also absolutely no bias. Building my wish list to get fitted for :)
What a great video! i love how the ball keeps coming up. My wife lost her last pink Volvik ball and i tossed her a pro v1. I have never seen her bomb a ball like that! and she loved the wedge spin! please bring back lindsey to do a ball fitting.
I have the Epic Flash and it really is an amazing 3 wood for me both on and off the tee.
Recently got an m5 just after the golf season ended (usually done in October). In the sim, going from my Callaway FT to TM M5, I've gained 30+ yards in max distance, average is much better as well. Really love that club, especially off the deck.
Now, to try it on a real course and see if that translates.
It's notable how straight the M5 was. Spin related im sure, but 295 in the fairway all day a wonderful thing.
It’s cool to see I’ve drawn some of the same conclusions in my game that these tests confirm. I have similar swing speed to Matt and always struggled to elevate a 3 wood off the deck. I ended up dropping 3 wood from the bag and going with a 5 wood. 5 wood I can turn over a draw with ease off the tee and where driver I mostly fade. Also now I can elevate it off the deck coming into par 5s. I Carry about 260. No courses I play do I need a 275 club coming into a par 5 and hitting 260 off the tee is plenty of distance on tight par 4s.
The ball change is so interesting to me, as someone not in the same stratosphere as Matt speed wise, really trying to figure out which ball I should be using. Hopefuly in your future testing will include ball fits for some of the more modest swing speeds.
Another great video!
Love the same day benchmark. Hope to see it in future vids.
I mentioned this in another video but I would love to see how the TS fairway woods keep up with these two heads since it has been a while since they have been on the channel!
Taylor made clubs have advanced so much since 2000 . In 2000 I worked for two companies the first super alloy technologies in Australia and the second was Techtronics international in northern Thailand ( finishing house ) We produced the Taylor made TI Bubble & Ti Bubble 2 . Along with king cobra and many other titanium 2 & 4 piece clubs . Taylor made was produced using a solid titanium billet hot forged into the club finished of with a crown key hole welded to the body . Not to mention a lot of cnc work .
I have the epic flash 5 wood and it's easily my favorite club. When I'm not hitting my driver well, which is often lol, I can count on an easy 230 yards with no concern for a big miss. It feels the ball is being shot out of a canon. Looking to try the epic flash 3 as a driver "replacement."
I've been loving my Flash SZ 3 wood, but I'm a guy who pretty much only uses it off a tee.
Sneaky long with a great feel and a strong flight.
Tried all the others and ended up with the M5. Fell in love with it because the look at address looks like my V steel 3wood. It was hard to replace old faithful. Tensei orange stiff flex shaft . I replaced the grip with a golfpride x4 mcc ALIGN . The ALIGN grip is a good reference for the hands. I'm keeping all the grips the same except for SW and LW. #Slowly replacing everything in 2019 even the bag$$$.
I have both the 3w and the 5w this year and have dropped the 3W in favour of playing the 5w as a 17* 4 wood essentially. Around 10y shorter off the tee which shocked me but longer off the deck and much easier to get launch (still have to watch the wet ball or grass interference that cuts spin even further, flyers are a feature of this kind of club). I found the 3w great off the tee but hard to get going from the floor. I play off a 4 index and have never struggled to hit 3w off the ground, it’s actually a favourite shot of mine. Make sure you test this thoroughly before you buy the SZ version.
I’d love to see you guys test the tour edge exotics CBX fairways
Hey Ian, you say that the accra tour z extreme is one of the best shaft profiles for fairway woods you've worked with. That's really interesting because shaft companys often times label shafts as "wood" shafts, not distinguishing the profile as inherently better for driver or fairway woods. Yet companies find it necessary to design shafts specifically for hybrids, driving irons, iron sets, and wedges. I'd love to see a video explaining the different needs in shaft profiles between driver and fairway woods.
Should test on course. 3 wood off fairway toughest shot in golf. Some of us strike the ground first. Need turf interaction in review for us higher handicappers
I've got a 475 M5 in my mizuno fwy and absolutely love smashing it.
Great shaft!!
You guys should review more Ben Hogan golf products! The new PTX line is out and they offer hybrids wedges utility irons and putters now at a really affordable price, as long as people have confidence in their product
Would be interested to see the difference in flight shape when moving that big weight around
Hopefully will see you review the one driver in the future
Thanks as always for the top stuff
Mattys 3 woods a good players driver 😂😂
Really great information in your video once again, looking to change my 3 wood at the moment so thanks for your efforts
you need a location in Dallas, Tx
Amen!
Exchange rate works in your favour. Come on up , get fit and play some golf!
Are you the FBI agents inside my work computer? I booked a 2 hour meeting with myself to find a new 3 FW and it comes down to the epic, TS3 (dont really love the feel here) or the M5. I have the speed (104mph/average) but I just want something to use from tee when I feel my driver is letting me down. I play the first version of M2 with an Aldila rogue black shaft, like it, dont love it, so I guess I will have to watch this video and make up my mind.
Put them up against the Cobra F9 3 wood. I would like to see the results.
Dewight Supplee I thought the same but please use the smaller version.
They have tested them both. Don't think Cobra kept up and Matt was swinging faster then.
@@joshuaprok4354 . I did not see that video. Thanks for letting me know, I will check it out.
Any plans to test the PXG gen 2 fairways guys? I hear good things, but don’t think anyone on RUclips has tested yet 🤷🏻♂️
Great work again guys. Really interesting comparing these two FW. Could you please do the same with a slower speed tester for the more average player between the M6 and the regular Epic Flash. Thanks.
Great video gents although the taylormade wasn’t far off the callaway I think the £100 extra will put a lot of people off. With that £100 you could upgrade the shaft (if needed of course), have lessons etc the list goes on. Callaway hands down wins this for me so far with the closer competitor being the ping.
Also a side note. Can you do the callaway driver vs the old epic drivers? Be cool to see if there was a difference between them rather than the flash v rouge which seems everyone has done.
Cheers gents :)
Wish you guys would add in some other fairway woods like a full 3 wood test with 5 or 6 different ones.
I originally bought the M5, it was a bit spinny for me, especially off the turf, replaced it with the Epic Flash Sub Zero and couldn't be happier, bought a couple dozen balls with the price difference.
Great video as always. Can we compare Epic Flash FW to last years Rogue SZ Fairway wood?
I've seen the ball compression video. Is there a swing speed chart vs compression? I'm 110 with the driver and play the Chrome soft X.
Hi Guys I watch you all the time . I wish I knew what you were talking about but it goes over my head lol.
Could you do a graph in what ball speed that would relate to what golf ball please . I apologise if you have already done this .
Rob
Would be great to see how much of a difference in ball speed us average swing speeders would gain/lose depending on which golf ball we're using!
You could move the Flash SZ weight back and add spin. Ian knew that when you brought it up but he held off
Great compare vid. Interesting take on the ball. @mygolfspy ball test is going to ruffle some feathers me thinks
I can't wait to watch Tiger hit balls at this year's PGA. Just have to hope he makes the cut...! PS the Tour Zx is no longer on the Accra website, is there a way to get them still?
ALSO last thing - if you guys can do a "bomb ball less than driver" test between flash SZ and the new Mini Driver, that would be awesome.
Hey Gents
Great video as always, I have a question that y'all touched on briefly in the beginning when talking about Tigers ball striking and his ability to work this club in either direction. Do you think that this twist face and its profile would decrease the ability to work shots in either direction ? I feel that the EF subzero would have the advantage there where in its technology is working from behind the face and doesn't actually change the faces profile, is this a misconception ?
Brilliant question, I never thought of that but I will keep that in mind when choosing my next fairway wood. Would love to hear their impression, hope they reply.
I can almost keep up with Matt on the three wood, if I swing out of my skin. Swing is looking great Matt, keep up the good work. I hope I can come visit soon, need some new clubs.
I'd like to see you move 2 oz of weight from the front to the back on the SZ and see what that does to the spin rate.
The most Canadian exchange ever at 6:12
Lol
What's the cobra tour head 3 wood like compared to these. Would love to see Matt hit that.
Nice 1 guys.
Ian Nicol i’d like to see that comparison too
@@jonmayes it will blow them away I think. With the videos I've see it looks a beast.
Great job as usual guys!! Im wondering what the advantages/disadvantages are of having fairway wood with a flatter bottom line vs a fairway wood that is more curved at the bottom. I have a ping g 3 wood that is a little flatter but have seen others with a more rounded bottom. Could you explain? Thanks!!!
God I'm so screwed with making a choice on which way to go with a new driver and 3 wood. Any guys here in Sydney used Pure Form golf for fitting? Ian have you heard about them around the traps? I feel that if I don't get the level of care and attention to detail that you guys deliver that I'll feel ripped off.
I Hit the m5 vs g410 average with m5 was 168 and the g410 lst was 166 so for the price difference I bought the g410 but I loved the m5 too
How do those 2 FW compare to the F9 tour FW.
What is the optimal spin for a mere mortal 3 wood?
I like mine between 2800-3500 depending on shape. Anything less falls out of the sky and anything more kind of balloons. 31-3200 is just about perfect for me at mid-high 90s 3w speed.
Question about face durability on a Driver. Recently I cracked the face of my Ping G driver. I had bought it second hand and had been hitting it for about a year and a half. The crack occurred half an inch from the top of the face and spanned across the entire length of the face. I am assuming this is not a normal thing and was wondering if it comes down the the tolerance of the materials and mass production.
What sort of speed would you say warrants a switch to z star xv over the normal z star for example. I was weighing up either ball
Great video lads hard to split those 2 fairway woods, Cobra F9 Fairway wood against them?
Can you recommend a couple of heads to try. I’m looking for max ballspeed with some forgiveness in the form of spin retention. I was thinking Epic Flash, TS2, or ST190.
Was this testing done with the weight in the forward position on the EF Sub Zero?
What are your thoughts on pure-ing shafts? How much of a difference do you think it makes?
Great video again. Would you be so kind to compare it also with the Ping?
Guys just got an M5 rocket 3 wood, can you tell me if I adjust the 65g weight in the sole should it make a click noise when it’s locked into position like when adjusting the hosel or do you just tighten the screw as tight as you can .... hope this makes sense- any help much appreciated.
Cheers
Tommy
These guys are phenomenal. Where are you and when can I come get fitted!
Hi Ian, I've still got my Taylor made M1 tour head 3 wood 2017. How would this stack up against the flash because I now have the flash 9° driver. At Lanark I use the 3 wood off loads of tees so would I benefit from the change. Have u got a the old 3 wood head to test it against this new flash.
Thanks.
Ian.
I would like to see some of these new 3 woods compared against the Cobra LTD 3 wood, I know it's a few years old, but that club is long.
Hey guys, I like hitting down on my. driver a little. Is there anyway you guys can do a show on hitting down and hitting up. I would love to see if a Ping LST or any low spin driver can be used with a downward swing. Hopefully my 115 SS with a low spin driver will work hitting slightly down. Current driver Callaway Razr 9.5 loft RIP red eye
No high launch 3 wood in the Taylormade fairways this year ☹️
Question: why would one want less spin from a fairway wood? Other than a fairway finder I want my 3/4/5W to stop before a run-out, and beyond that I want it to stick on a green. Less spin sounds like unnecessary tragedy. Is it just me?
Absolutely agree!
Any plans to do a fw shootout like the driver?
shouldnt you be carrying a 3 wood 300 if you carry your driver 325?
*Imagine the Cut ball OMG!!!*
Hi. What shaft conector system do you guys use.
How does the Cobra compare?
Have y’all tested the f9 3 wood
Give me the monster toasty hot one. M5 also good choice, but Matt give us a break. 300 yards from a 3 wood. Aha moment, get a ball fitting.
Why isn't Matt using Z Star XV?? Standard Z Star is too low a compression for his swing
BTW CAD500 for the M5 ....... I'll wait 2 seasons and can pick it up for much less
Have been using the XV on the course, just experimenting with the standard Z star over the off season
@@clubchampionmedia Stick with the XV... 👍👍🏌️🏌️
14 clubs and one ball. What club determines what ball you use? The Pro V1x May be great for the 3w but maybe not the driver? Or the irons?
PS Great videos!
How about trying out the mini Driver from taylormade
literally mentioned the mini right after I posted this.
epic flash seems to be less accurate for you. M5 appears to be the best all round. isn't that what you want from a 3 wood?
Accuracy is definitely key with a fairway wood, here it comes down to the spin profile. Low spin on the flash makes it longer, but less accurate
Was the Accra Tour Z shaft used in testing tipped? If so how much, thanks!
I would love to see this test with someone who hits a driver 220 to 250 yards.
Sorry a three wood not a driver.
not sure if this has been answered before(probably), but why is Matt not on any mini tours?
Ive never hit a fairway as consistent off the tee & off the deck as I have since going M5. This years model was not nearly as good for me
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Hey guys, I know your getting a swingcaddie sent to you.
ruclips.net/video/vOoipRcGV3w/видео.html Rick shields did this video.
But the question I felt it didn't answer well enough is how consistent it reads ballspeeds.
Because if it can track ballspeeds accurate on iron shots you can calculate yardage easy.
And you can then use it to see when you hit your number in a practice session :)
When you hit X ball speed with a good strike you then know it go's Y.
If you can answer this in a little bit better I know a lot of people will appreciate it myself included :D
Taylormade 3 wood is to expensive to even consider especially when there are other 3 woods that perform either better or the same. Save the $100 dollars !!!
Why the accura shafts?
Need to test balls