CALLAWAY EPIC FLASH FAIRWAYS
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- CALLAWAY EPIC FLASH FAIRWAYS, reviewed and tested by Mark Crossfield golf professional. Mark and Dan hit the Epic Flash Callaway fairway and the Sub Zero Epic Flash Fairway. See what these two fairways could do for your golf and if they can help you improve your golf with new tech and face designs. Making sure you have the best fairway in your golf bag is key ho helping your have the lowest scores possible.
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omg this is the best video ever. "sand hill crane", "culture is a real thing" "why do i surround myself with golfers" my dream 4 some is you 3. cheers!
Still playing my Callaway XR 3 wood ... love the look , feel , sound .. everything about it. Fantastic off the deck , and about same distance off a very low tee.
I love the chatting because all of you have great insights that can only add value to me as a viewer
Still rocking my Epic Flash 5W. Great club!!!!!!!
Thank you mark for being one of the few who asks “why” instead of taking what the club companies say as “gospel”. I personally won’t talk about the tech on the flyer unless the reps can tell me what it does and why with my students and when I am fitting.
Memories of playing Tron video game at the local skating rink. Like the commentary as well. Good balance between striking the ball and discussion. Sandhill cranes are LOUD!
Best regards,
Seth Finman, Naples, Florida
The first Tron was superb. Coach and Dan need an education
How in the world do you not know what Tron is?
I think it was a big influence for other movies like Matrix.
@@MrKydaman The first major movie with computer animation graphics. Superb, and I liked the 2nd on too.
@@echambers1112 yeah, the Tron sequel was very well done.
I love these videos. The way your mind works never ceases to amaze me. Keep it up
"Probably some Star Wars thing" Omg Coach! I'm glad you guys chat more about random stuff mixed in with the golf talk!
I play the standard Epic 3 wood & love it, it feels great through the ball. I play the Sub Zero in the driver.
Loved Tron as a kid!!! The motorcycles were the best. Played the video game as well!
The original Tron was a good film, has Coach ever owned a TV or been to a cinema?
I was just able to go to a local golf shop and test all the new epic flash drivers and fairways today and I must say they perform very well, I played the older epics and rogue and these are superb!! And how do they not know what Tron is 😂😂
Love a good 3 wood. Always had Taylor Made; from R series to RBZ (extra 17 yards bruh👊💪) but put a dent in the crown accidentally. Loaned my daughters Callaway Diablo and it’s been in the bag for over a season now, love it.
Tested and bought a new 3 wood this year. I switch from a 4w 7w setup to a 3w and 19 degree hybrid.
Intresting at the end of the day looks seem to play the biggest part in choosing a club , face circles colour head footprint closed or open face , as all the numbers seem to be similar with all the big manufacture,
I had to pause and wipe my eyes in the middle of this club review! Just pure gold
Mark, Love the chat...... makes these the best review videos on the tube!!! Cheers Brah!!!
Thanks for sharing the video and the "chatting" makes it more of a real-feel & honest review. I was in the market for new woods last year and had a chance to try several options. I ended up with the Callaway XR's, 5W & 3W, for various options but i love the way feel, sound and more importantly how i can make shots that i never could before. I looked at a lot more expensive and popular models and leaned that i could not play them any better than the ones i purchased. After reviewing this video, it has me thinking of the new technology Callaway has implemented in their new clubs but not sure i can be sold something even the manufacture can't explain how it works.. lol
Haha, I love the near swing and then toss the club on the shoulder to share. Real deal like playing with my crew here in Hawaii! Nice job Dan
Tron bruh. motorbike with lines lol. Anyway it is amazing what things you can come up with if you actually think. I personally prefer the chats to you swiping the club. They are hilarious conversations and its so much fun to see how you think and we should always ask the question why bruh.
Strike Brah! I am no expert but when you see the shape of the back of the face it seems like the have engineered in thick parts and thin parts in waves to react to the face deforming in waves when the ball is hit. But wouldn't that reduce the size of the 'sweet spot' ? They have obviously been looking at the club head deforming hence 'Jailbreak' stopping the top and bottom of the club pushing apart at impact. Just an opinion. loving the vids. keep 'em coming.
The head on my Cleveland Launcher 3 Wood broke off so I’m looking for a new wood. I will certainly check out these.
Great review. I haven't tested nor gamed a 3 wood in over a year. I was so unhappy with my last 3 wood that I sold it and never replaced it. Maybe this year I will give them another try.
I bought the TS2 3 wood in November, big fan. Definitely a go to club for me. You need to have a movie day with them 2!
Mark, 24:00 is exactly what Callaway have done using their super computer. They simulated hundreds of thousands of strikes all over the face and then the computer designed the face to do "as well as it could" for all of those strikes. The face isn't designed to give you the same results everywhere on the face; it's designed so that when you do mishit it (not every can hit center strike every time like you brah), your LOSSES are less than with a different club. They're making the bad hits better, but they can't make the bad hits as good as the good hits.
1982 Tron was Epic, bet Marks favourite character was Master Control Program. also still love my 2015 GBB 3 wood :-)
Hardly ever carry a 3 Wood, and last one I bought was the Cobra F7 3-4 Wood. After watching this video, I putting on my trousers to run out to the shop to test the REGULAR Flash (don't ask why my trousers were off in the first place).
Beautiful looking club, I'm regretting making a new year's resolution to not buy more golf clubs this year.
I bought my 3 wood about 4 or 5 years ago and haven't really tested one since. I've considered replacing it, but whereas I hit driver between 8 and 10 times a round, I probably hit 3 wood twice. Most people don't play off the blacks on 7,000 yards like you guys.
On the flip side, for me, the banter is Epic. Keep it up guys. Wondering if I can game the sub zero.
TRON with Jeff Bridges was awesome. Tell Dan to watch Big Lebowsky.
I hope you get to test the new Mizuno ST190 soon. Buying new driver next month to bad you do not get to test the Taylormade.
Interesting talk about the club tech. When you think about it, why does the clubs have different faces? Why does one have groves and the other club has the new flashy face? Should not both the clubs have the new flashy face if the tech is so good? And if both the clubs have the flashy tech behind the face, surely the groves have to alter the shot somehow? But in the end of that day, I don't really care. As long as it looks good behind the ball and I hit it straight I'm happy.
Last three wood I bought was Taylormade RBZ Stage 2. I’m somewhat inconsistent with it, but sometimes hit it fairly well. I’m looking at replacing it with one of these to hopefully pick up a few yards, since I’m not as young as I used to be! I’m thinking the sub might be for me, since I tend to spin everything a bit too much. Good video.
5.00 minutes in, starts practice swing, 8.45 hits first shot. I think Jason Day might have a competitor here! Oh, and two strokes penalty for delaying the play ;)
Nice review, as per always, and I am in the market for an easy launching 3-4 wood so might give this a go :)
Tron everyone should see them at least once in their life time.
Bought a Cobra F7 3-4 wood early last year and love it. Only thing is I can only get decent yardage when it's teed up about 220 - 230 total. Cannot hit it off the deck loosing a good 25-35 yards so had to buy a Srixon F65 5 wood.
Both Tron movies are great, sounds like you need to have a movie night with Coach and Dan, pizza, beers, popcorn and a Tron movie marathon.
Thanks for the 3 wood review! I like them over driver reviews. Nothing changes with the result of hitting different drivers. 3 woods are much more fun and used sometimes more in a round compared to a driver. Cheers!
Always love the honesty
Tron!!! Blast from the past! One of the first movies that used "computer graphics." Now, where in the attic did I put that Atari 2600???
If I can attempt to explain. Say you know a common average speed of an ostrich running. That's just average based on lots of observation. Now say you said I'm building the perfect ostrich. I know the ones with 3.5 inch claws combined with 5 ft legs runs slightly better than average. More observation means you can make assumptions. Now imagine you have so many observations of toe strikes, top strikes, close to heal strikes and you let the "super computer " choose the best thickness for every square centimeter of the face... you get that mad pattern. (Varied thickness) and then you put that in a human hand and it works. Boom AI = maths on shit loads data. Just AI sounds good. "This driver has simple maths done so many times it made some gains" won't sell drivers. Love the channel. Keep up the great work 👍
The tech discussion reminds me of a comment I heard about fishing lures. Some lures are meant to catch fish, others are meant to catch fisherman. I think that a lot of the tech claims are simply designed to increase sales. They have to find some way to convince you that their new club is better than your old club. While there have certainly been massive improvements in club technology over the last 20 years, it makes you wonder why all of a sudden from one year to the next a club that looks essentially the same as last year is supposed to be much better. I’m actually with Mark on this one. If you can’t explain to me in a simple fashion why it’s better, I think it’s just marketing.
Still using the Cleveland launcher 13 degree! Know that clubs misses and strengths. My fav club in the bag
My last 3 wood was the Epic standard. Don't use it often because of the courses I play don't require it. I am really considering a 17 hybrid that I can loft down a degree to use off the tee in the wind and such.
I got fitted for the rogue 3 wood tested sub zero and was getting them low spin bomb balls you talked about was nearly going as far as my driver. Which is good for distance but no good when its coming in slightly lower and hotter in to a par 5 green. Getting fit isnt an option everybody should be doing it 👍🏻
"No negative comments please" Coach is the best!!!
Tron original was a good film now showing our age though Mr Crossfield!
I bought the Titleist 3 wood 917 last year when the new TS2 & 3 came out, the value was superb and the performance is great. Just don’t have the money to buy new season equipment!
As a guess, I reckon the face works through something to do with the different oscillations depending on where the strike location is? Surely the face will oscillate differently closer to the edge compared to the centre and the unusually shaped inside of the face may be involved with minimising the effects of this. Perhaps it dampens the oscillations of the mishit to keep spin off? Just a guess, I'm a biochemist not a physicist!
I tested a new 3 wood this past year as a replacement for an old Cobra Baffler Rail F that'd been in my bag since 2011. I ended up finding a mint example of my old one and have gone back to it. New one didn't fly any farther, wasn't any more forgiving. Just not sure there's been much innovation in the fairway wood category for quite some time.
Ive seen the Sandhill cranes in the Sandhills in Nebraska
Love the standard flash. Have a epic 3 wood 13.5. Wanting to change as it’s not best for gapping at the moment. Will be contacting Dan soon for a fitting.
See you soon Dan 👍
Dan Hendriksen Golf most definitely will be my man. I will drop you an email soon to get some dates sorted. 👍🏼
Bought a new 3 wood just before Xmas, Mizuno GT180 very pleased with it, and it was a bargain so win win for me.👍
Looks always works for me. Whether it gains or looses me five yards is irrelevant with my 15 handicap. Brilliant as always guys
8 years oldest club in bag it is also hit the least, very good vid.
Superb, Mark. Absolutely superb.
Yes, to Tron.
Quick explanation about the face. Instead of using a gradual change in materials thickness to push CT to regulation limits like an engineer (person) would do they allowed a computer to engineer it. Not constrained by a person's, "I don't want to set up all the equations in my software", an AI will use lattice or wave patterns to expand ball speed across the face while keeping it in spec. This expansion is likely to be trivial in a fairway wood. Okay, not so quick. It is like a trampoline. A person, "yeah, uniform mat, same springs all around. Done, easy". An AI will churn out all the maths to maximize the efficiency across the whole mat by changing thickness and elastic properties of the mat. The mat may have thicker, less elastic, areas and thin, more elastic, areas. If you ask the question, "why is this part thicker"? The answer is that modeling shows it increases energy efficiency. PGA/R&A: "The Characteristic Time of the clubhead shall not be greater than 239 µs. A maximum test tolerance of 18 µs is associated with this test."
James Logan ermmmmm I agree
Uh... yeah... what he said
Wouldn’t it be individual to all players and shots though?
Maybe they make it fast for the the most amount of possible strikes 🤷♂️
What’s then the manafacturing tolarance from one club to another? Can this have an impact on the quality of the product, it’s performance and how do you control manufacturing mistakes and variances? I don’t believe that hype unless I tried it, it’s longer and reduces dispersion.
@@bernddreilich7100 The engineers include the manufacturing tolerances during integrated product development (IPD). Basically, you tell the computer what your manufacturing tolerances are and the computer won't develop a design the requires tighter tolerances than can be manufactured. I would expect the PGA/R&A to approve manufactured models that fall within their 18 µs tolerance. I still don't see what all the fuss is about. I expect these developments to be trivial, at best.
Excellent and fair review.
TM are knobs.
In terms of bs my favourite is speed foam! I can only imagine it’s for Acoustics! If I’m wrong fine, but just sounds bs to me! As for callaway face, It’s such a small face I can’t imagine the “tec” has much Validity. However I’m a big callaway wood fan. Just look great.
So how about a Epic 7 wood? I play reasonably long course 6600 off whites and lots of long par 4'sand 3's where you need around 190-210 and s
Mark ...
13:00 you say ‘good players may not want to see the tron’ I gather you mean this as in most good players will be able to hit the sub but not all will get the better numbers and may have to deal with the ‘patterns’
Last time I bought a 3-wood was back in 2015 and it was a 2014 club which is Callaway X2Hot. Since then nothing come close to it in distance and playability (and I tested everything every year)
My 3 wood is a Callaway X Hot, the original, one. Yet it is getting tired. I do test three woods at my local shop often, yet often think, maybe I should use a modern 3 wood as a driver replacement.
I just got rid of my 3wood, I wasn't fit for it and I hated it. I'll be going to get fit for a TS 3wood (match my driver brah!) pretty soon and see what that does for me.
Coach Re Tron "Probably some Star Wars thing"
Made me laugh :)
Great comment by Dan regarding the grooves and thin face. Brilliant review as always
Totally agree drivers get too much hype. Especially now they’re averaging £400+ 😱 Love my 3w! I was given a Nike vapor speed and found a sweet spot at 13deg. It rips. Definitely gonna try the standard one of these now though
“Philistines”, Tron 1 & 2 nerd heaven back in the day!
Will there be a video on Matt's fitting. Never seen Marty have a fitting session
just got a new cobra F8 a few months ago and use it very often
Great compare. How do these compare to the Rouge fairway metals both standard and SZ ?
Last 3 wood... nike covert 2.0 looking for a new one this year. Last year I was fit for a ping 400 max driver and calloway x forged irons
A long time ago because I love my Fly Z 3 Wood!!!!
Have you guys heard of txg golf? I feel as though you both are the most informational golf based RUclips channels out there. They mentioned you in one of their latest videos, and I think the idea of a collaboration would break the golf internet world... two different takes, one feel based, one fact based... would love to see your thoughts and intake on how they go in to detail on specific technology that you may or may not find to be overly beneficial for your average golfer
Lovely clubs, current 3 wood is my oldest club in my bag, Callaway FT even has a regular shaft 😂 will be testing these in the spring
Great review but the big question is how much faster ball speed would coach get with the TS2 fairway ha cheers brah
I think the original Tron was the first feature film to use computer graphics. Basically the great great granddaddy of them all!
Brilliant film for a young boy who’d never seen anything like it.
Id test it now so I would know if I should buy it when it's on sale next year.
Love these videos, oh Mark how does that tech work? Can’t wait for next one.
Correct me if im wrong. Doesnt groves help create spin? to me it looked like the "standard-version" had no groves where you were hitting it and therefore should be spinning less?
Marky Mark with the Daft Punk reference... Lets go Brah! Love it!
Very informative; very interesting; well done as usual. Lovely looking Clubs 👍 🏌🏻♂️🏌🏻♂️🏌🏻♂️
Tron was awesome just like you three. Great analogy Mark about the face.
You three stooges rock😜
Cheers from norcal
Tron is a classic! New Tron Legacy was pretty sweet too. Rent the movie for Dan. Great video Mark.
The face tech works like this: designers look at each point on the face and calculate the rebound. the face thickness is varied through the entire stretch of the face to optimize each of those points. The challenge, as you analyze one point and change the thickness of the face to optimize rebound speed for that point, that change can accidentally change every other point on the face as well. So you then need to go back and recalculate the rebound for every other point again when you make a change to optimize the particular spot you are analyzing (because you don’t want to slow down other points). You have to do these calculations over and over again, looking at a point, changing face thickness, then determining the unintended consequence to other points. You run this process over and over until you have a face thickness profile that optimizes every point as much as possible. The AI marketing is a sales term for the design process doing these repetitive calculations and changes until the face is optimized as much as possible for every point (not every point can achieve ideal rebound, so there is an “ideal” final balanced solution to get the most possible, based upon the engineering goals). Since this is such a iterative calculation process, a large computer helps do them. In the past, club designers would likely pick out say 10 specific points and do the calculations like this repetitively for those 10 points as they change face profiles. But since we now have faster computers, they can select 100 points on the face, or 1000 points on the face and let the computer vary thickness and re-run the calculations. If you allow the computer to alter the face design, then run the calculations, stopping when you reach an “optimal” thickness profile, the result is an “artificially intelligent” designed face.
Star Wars?? When I was a kid, the Disney movies I went to see in the theatre were "The Boatnicks" and "Now You See Him, Now You Don't."
Great review, look forward to finding out more about the face
Loving the content Mark!
Will lower spin fairway woods & drivers help or hinder higher handicappers, who more often don't find the centre of the face? Is low spin just about straight strikes or does it also reduce side spin and help keep the ball flight straighter?
The original Tron back in the early 80's great film, question, how did the Callaway R&D team manage to launch these clubs if there sales teams don't understand how they work! Great testing 👍
i LOVE my 3 Wood...and Tron!
Nice Video ! 3 wood is a hard club to strike off the deck for most golfers! Mark do see if you can find out why it works mate?
Parfield with a deep dive on Tron...Coach and Dan left in the dust.
Last time I tried/purchased a new fairway wood was 10 years ago :( Hoping to change that this year though
Mark, I'm afraid to even consider "recent" clubs that have "face tech" like this because like you said, if I don't totally get it, how do I know it doesn't potentially hurt my game. So, is it reasonable to avoid these clubs or do I need to just trust it?
The original Tron was great. I didn't mind the second. Also, the 2nd one was not a remake, it was a continuation of the original.
Tron FTW!!
Mark, please do a Mavrik fairway woods review, and I want to see Coach's numbers with his Mavrik 4 wood
Whoops - and a soft landing. Loft is your friend yet I don't recall you reviewing a 7 wood!