Pretty spot on review. It's an amazing car. Fortunately, even if it doesn't succeed in sales, there will always be a Genesis dealership to always have parts and Service to keep your Stinger running good, even if they discontinue them. I have a feeling that even if it doesn't sell, it will be a desired product in a few years in the used car market, just like the Toyota Supra in the past. When I bough my Supra in 1994, is was a sales failure. But years later, it was loved by a new generation. We will see what lies ahead for the Stinger GT.
WOW pretty impressive, am about to upgrade current my Nissan Maxima and this looks like my perfect family replacement car while still being cool. Keep up the great work Kia !!! Hooniverse, excellent channel !!!
Thanks for the review I love my stinger gt awd here in Kentucky and plus my dealership has unlimited Powertrain who else is doing that not Lexus bmw Audi Mercedes none of them
I went to see one they have on display at a dealership in NJ. The car is even more impressive in person. I owned a Pontiac G8 GT for a few years and was absolutely in love with it. I like the looks of this even more. Upon sitting in it and seeing it in person, I can say, unless I'm not thrilled with it when I get the chance to test drive it, I'll be buying one this summer. (not that I have any reservations about the fact I'm going to be giddy once I hit the throttle!)
Peter Shryer, and now they hired Pierre Leclercq. You know they are moving in the rite direction. Outstanding job KIA. Now build a two door to compete against Godzilla and the Lexus.
Great car just test drove one yesterday love it might be buying one, great fun to drive, well equipped, when you drive it you forget you are in a Kia Weldone for getting a great car out.
If the Kia logo bugs u. Install a “K”logo that I can buy from a K5 store. I truly wish Kia would use that logo on their cars. But whom cares Kia makes some bitching cars now. I know...I own a 274hp Kia Optima SX model 2013 and I love it!
Most people can't stand the fact that Kia wants to become something bigger. The badge of a car shouldn't be judged. And you can always replace the badge with a CK of K3 Badge.
I like this car so I went to a Kia website in the City where I'm from since, I'm currently living in South Korea. The Price was $52,888.....I went back to looking at used Audi A7s. This car is still in my list Stinger, A7, and Camaro.
The last 3 cars I owned, KIA Spectra 5 SX, KIA Forte KOUP R, and now KIA Stinger GT2 limited, I love the brand I know I got lucky because Hyundai/ KIA has a few very bad engines but I never had any of them.
Even though I want a midsized truck (Chevy Colorado Z71 or ZR2) as my next vehicle, when I saw this come out I thought well that is an interesting entry into the 4 door sports sedan/Grand Tour segment of vehicles. I for one would LOVE to have one of the GTs even the regular GT doesn't have to be the GT1 or GT2. I do like the looks and performance of the Dodge Charger, but there are so many out there now. I also learned to really like the Chevy SS sedan with its sleeper status and all when I worked at a Chevy dealer, but it is only RWD and I would get the Kia in AWD since I live in the Ohio Valley region about an hour and thirty minutes away from Pittsburgh, PA so there will be snow and ice for at least 3 months. There just are not many options that have that kind of performance and styling for under 50k out there, well at least not new. Definitely one of the best looking cars out there and I am not scared off by the badge, I almost bought a Kia Optima, but a year later had to go with a Chevy Cruze (which I like as a daily and go to work car) so I like some of their cars and absolutely LOVE this one. If only I had the $$$ for this and my truck that I want, heck I wish I had the $$$ for the Colorado let alone the badass Stinger GT to boot. Great review as always.
Nice review! Would love to have one of these tho I've heard that there's likely going to be an eight cylinder stick shift in the future. That would be the one for me, if it's true... Fingers crossed.
I really want to like this car, just have little faith in the company producing it, not to mention the lap/instrumented times are meh aside from 0-60. We'll see it's between this and the new regal gs
It's actually considerably worse than the SS, in terms of performance. fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow-springs-streets-of-willow The Chevy SS is 3 seconds a lap faster on Streets of Willow, which is a very small track. The SS also has more power and more torque, has an LS3 V8 which sounds a lot better, has Magneride adaptive shocks which are widely recognized as some of the best adaptive shocks in the world, And you can get it with a manual transmission. So I'm not sure what makes you think the Stinger is a better car than the SS.
an awesome design ruined by a weird add-on light bar that has no real design purpose. If you edit it out (in Photoshop, for example) - the car looks 10x better. I find it a tad expensive, as well, but only time will tell.
Wojciech Siewior so on this one, I typically shoot at 24p. But some of the automaker b roll might’ve been different. Plus we shot some drone stuff and I wasn’t in charge of the settings there. Usually though I’m at 24p right in the camera. I may switch to 60p for Shift Happens videos
Considering the Stinger GT is around $39k MSRP, that is probably very likely in a couple years time. Heck I've seen 2015 4-series GCs for sub $30k already.
Compare it to an equally priced Dodge Charger Scatpack. The Stinger loses across the board (interior, infotainment, acceleration, top speed, handling, braking...)
JoCo Dashcam Depends on where you live, Dodge cars have to be imported (sadly) in Sweden. So they can cost around 70k USD all the way up to 90k (Hellcat). I wish Dodge did what Ford does and built some cars here in EU. Would bring the prices down, would probably sell quite well too :)
Can you guys atleast put a little bit of effort in creating videos that don't look exactly like Motor Trend videos. Lets get some creativity over there folks
J R in one year they will say the car is soft and weak. It’s not as good as a lot of cars. It looks okay. But they haven’t captured driving feel. Sorry. I don’t care about the label.
J R stop. Go buy one. It’s not and will never be a Porsche. Period. End of story. There are zero real performance Korean cars. If you think it feels the same ... you haven’t drive anything.
$50,000 for a Kia with less power than a Charger R/T (the car it copied). Good luck with that Kia, good luck with the impending massive depreciation too.
The slow R/T? You mean the ScatPack? Many sedans have less HP than the Scatpack that costs more so what is your point? Dodge is at the bottom of the reliability list.
Yeah and not sure why he believes that KIA copied dodge. I thought it was pretty obvious where KIA got their inspiration from, namely the other liftback Europeans like the BMW 4 GC/3 GT and Audi A5 sportback. Charger is a fullsize sedan that is nearly 10" longer than this, on a decade old chassis and engine and, while a decent value proposition, still lacks when it comes to handling and refinement.
+Alan Bowers and If this looks like any American four door, it’s the Chevy SS. Go look at profile pics of both. Minus the fastback of the Kia they look very similar.
Pretty spot on review. It's an amazing car. Fortunately, even if it doesn't succeed in sales, there will always be a Genesis dealership to always have parts and Service to keep your Stinger running good, even if they discontinue them. I have a feeling that even if it doesn't sell, it will be a desired product in a few years in the used car market, just like the Toyota Supra in the past. When I bough my Supra in 1994, is was a sales failure. But years later, it was loved by a new generation. We will see what lies ahead for the Stinger GT.
WOW pretty impressive, am about to upgrade current my Nissan Maxima and this looks like my perfect family replacement car while still being cool. Keep up the great work Kia !!! Hooniverse, excellent channel !!!
Ivan .B the real four door sports car.
Candle Jack .....yup starting to look that way now !
I am also thinking about moving from current 335xi M-performace to this one as well in 2018.
In your opinion which ones are your other choices ???
Yes replace that Fusion unless its a Mustang GT , so far everything points that people will love this Stinger !!!
I like this dude. I understand his wavelength. He knows what he's looking for.
Embrace the badge exactly
This car surprised me when it came out and i think it looks pretty interesting. Its cool to see Kia try to enter the GT market.
Thanks for the review I love my stinger gt awd here in Kentucky and plus my dealership has unlimited Powertrain who else is doing that not Lexus bmw Audi Mercedes none of them
I went to see one they have on display at a dealership in NJ. The car is even more impressive in person. I owned a Pontiac G8 GT for a few years and was absolutely in love with it. I like the looks of this even more. Upon sitting in it and seeing it in person, I can say, unless I'm not thrilled with it when I get the chance to test drive it, I'll be buying one this summer. (not that I have any reservations about the fact I'm going to be giddy once I hit the throttle!)
Tony R Definitely looks much better in person. Wide and sleek!
Peter Shryer, and now they hired Pierre Leclercq. You know they are moving in the rite direction. Outstanding job KIA. Now build a two door to compete against Godzilla and the Lexus.
Forget about badges, I traded my unreliable BMW 330 Ci on a new Hyundai Kona. Best move I've ever made. This Stinger also looks the goods to me.
Been waiting for this, thanks!
Great car just test drove one yesterday love it might be buying one, great fun to drive, well equipped, when you drive it you forget you are in a Kia Weldone for getting a great car out.
If the Kia logo bugs u. Install a “K”logo that I can buy from a K5 store. I truly wish Kia would use that logo on their cars. But whom cares Kia makes some bitching cars now. I know...I own a 274hp Kia Optima SX model 2013 and I love it!
Maverick Grabber exactly!
Most people can't stand the fact that Kia wants to become something bigger. The badge of a car shouldn't be judged. And you can always replace the badge with a CK of K3 Badge.
I like this car so I went to a Kia website in the City where I'm from since, I'm currently living in South Korea. The Price was $52,888.....I went back to looking at used Audi A7s. This car is still in my list Stinger, A7, and Camaro.
Great review! Looks to be an awesome addition to the rear drive market, I just wish all the OEMs would stop with the radio engine noise.
Btw great reviews motor trend needs you desperately
AWESOME REVIEW!.. you just gained another subscriber Hooniverse!..
The last 3 cars I owned, KIA Spectra 5 SX, KIA Forte KOUP R, and now KIA Stinger GT2 limited, I love the brand I know I got lucky because Hyundai/ KIA has a few very bad engines but I never had any of them.
Even though I want a midsized truck (Chevy Colorado Z71 or ZR2) as my next vehicle, when I saw this come out I thought well that is an interesting entry into the 4 door sports sedan/Grand Tour segment of vehicles. I for one would LOVE to have one of the GTs even the regular GT doesn't have to be the GT1 or GT2. I do like the looks and performance of the Dodge Charger, but there are so many out there now. I also learned to really like the Chevy SS sedan with its sleeper status and all when I worked at a Chevy dealer, but it is only RWD and I would get the Kia in AWD since I live in the Ohio Valley region about an hour and thirty minutes away from Pittsburgh, PA so there will be snow and ice for at least 3 months. There just are not many options that have that kind of performance and styling for under 50k out there, well at least not new. Definitely one of the best looking cars out there and I am not scared off by the badge, I almost bought a Kia Optima, but a year later had to go with a Chevy Cruze (which I like as a daily and go to work car) so I like some of their cars and absolutely LOVE this one. If only I had the $$$ for this and my truck that I want, heck I wish I had the $$$ for the Colorado let alone the badass Stinger GT to boot. Great review as always.
I have a GT2 Limited, its incredible i love it.
You guys have gotten professional
Well Jag and Land Rover still have electrical issues lol
Ohh do I mention I worked as a BMW,Porsche, Mercedes, and Italian Mechanic, or now in days we are called Technicians.
But Jags and Land Rovers still have electrical issues.....
Nice review! Would love to have one of these tho I've heard that there's likely going to be an eight cylinder stick shift in the future. That would be the one for me, if it's true... Fingers crossed.
Why wouldnt you press it harder?
Wouldn't Brag about a BMW engineer.. They make junk cars and bmw hold no records at the ring. Kia do this on your own. It's a nice car
Lol Embrace the badge! Homeboy Boss
High idea but would love to see this Stinger vs a G8 or chevy SS , srt8 300 . I know different classes im high .
I want it.
Cool car but I am skeptical since the Chevy SS seems to be a failure for the badge and pricing issues.
What pricing issues? There is no 4-door car that outperforms it for the price. And yes, that includes the Stinger GT.
Yeah it was too cheap.
Dude, You may have just started a new catch phrase......."Embrace the badge"...........then end with ..... you better recognize.
There has been lots of chatter about the lack of 360 camera but at 10 minutes in there it is. Must be a Canadian spec.
I really want to like this car, just have little faith in the company producing it, not to mention the lap/instrumented times are meh aside from 0-60. We'll see it's between this and the new regal gs
@hooniverse how does the AWD understeer compare to the AWD f type?
+Bren Landers more here. That awd F Type is very easily corrected with proper throttle
Folks, I think we found my next car.
Sting-Ah!
Holy shit. Here I was asking if the Stinger is as good as the Chevy SS. It is better.
It's actually considerably worse than the SS, in terms of performance.
fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow-springs-streets-of-willow
The Chevy SS is 3 seconds a lap faster on Streets of Willow, which is a very small track. The SS also has more power and more torque, has an LS3 V8 which sounds a lot better, has Magneride adaptive shocks which are widely recognized as some of the best adaptive shocks in the world, And you can get it with a manual transmission.
So I'm not sure what makes you think the Stinger is a better car than the SS.
maybe it's more reliable and fuel efficient
SS was also fairly terrible when it came to fuel economy.
in a straight line stinger is faster
And for the rest of the world, handling gets a look in.
I think the :45 seconds of you just sitting there waiting to launch was a bit unnecessary lol. I just kept waiting and waiting and waiting.
+BTroxTV I did say uncut haha. I should’ve sped that up though, yes
I don’t recommend that anyone use any reference to the Ghibli as a source of product design.
It’s easily one of the worst cars for the money, ever.
+Robert LeBlanc the original Ghibli, not the new one. Built from 1966 - 1973
an awesome design ruined by a weird add-on light bar that has no real design purpose. If you edit it out (in Photoshop, for example) - the car looks 10x better. I find it a tad expensive, as well, but only time will tell.
Hey Jeff, are you conforming 30p footage to 24p?
Wojciech Siewior so on this one, I typically shoot at 24p. But some of the automaker b roll might’ve been different. Plus we shot some drone stuff and I wasn’t in charge of the settings there. Usually though I’m at 24p right in the camera. I may switch to 60p for Shift Happens videos
Gotcha, yeah the drone shots stood out as "jittery". Still, very well done vid this one :)
+Wojciech Siewior for one of them that was probably also do to the color grade issue.... weird issue there
0→100km, 4.8sec I am.
I hope the depreciation is steep. Give me a rwd GT in 3 years for $25k please.
You'll see that in less than 2 years.
Considering the Stinger GT is around $39k MSRP, that is probably very likely in a couple years time. Heck I've seen 2015 4-series GCs for sub $30k already.
At this price I’d rather take q50 rs 400
dflet03 base gt is 13k cheaper. Not even in the same price category till its loaded above the q50rs. This is coming from a q60rs owner
This car is not cheap. In case Canada payments go over 650 a month on A lease. It's a kia.
The interior still looks like a Kia and could have gave more if they are serious about taking Audi and BMW drivers
They need to change the design of the badge,the badge is ugly
Isn't I bout the 2020 stinger GT500 its the Fastest sti get even made
BMW M235i 42,000, M2 52,000. 340i 55,0000.
Compare it to an equally priced Dodge Charger Scatpack. The Stinger loses across the board (interior, infotainment, acceleration, top speed, handling, braking...)
JoCo Dashcam Depends on where you live, Dodge cars have to be imported (sadly) in Sweden. So they can cost around 70k USD all the way up to 90k (Hellcat). I wish Dodge did what Ford does and built some cars here in EU. Would bring the prices down, would probably sell quite well too :)
Can you guys atleast put a little bit of effort in creating videos that don't look exactly like Motor Trend videos.
Lets get some creativity over there folks
The Korean Brands have crept up too high in price. 50k gets you a premium label.
How about a $150,000 Nissan(GTR)? Do you think that crept up a little bit?
vrcmag a base model premium label. $50K Stinger is absolutely fully loaded.
J R in one year they will say the car is soft and weak. It’s not as good as a lot of cars. It looks okay. But they haven’t captured driving feel. Sorry. I don’t care about the label.
J R Kia has one of the worst resale values.
J R stop. Go buy one. It’s not and will never be a Porsche. Period. End of story. There are zero real performance Korean cars. If you think it feels the same ... you haven’t drive anything.
No stick... sigh....
$50,000 for a Kia with less power than a Charger R/T (the car it copied). Good luck with that Kia, good luck with the impending massive depreciation too.
The slow R/T? You mean the ScatPack? Many sedans have less HP than the Scatpack that costs more so what is your point? Dodge is at the bottom of the reliability list.
lol obvious dodge fanboy is obvious
Yeah and not sure why he believes that KIA copied dodge. I thought it was pretty obvious where KIA got their inspiration from, namely the other liftback Europeans like the BMW 4 GC/3 GT and Audi A5 sportback. Charger is a fullsize sedan that is nearly 10" longer than this, on a decade old chassis and engine and, while a decent value proposition, still lacks when it comes to handling and refinement.
SP392 the Kia stinger is in the luxury Grand touring segment I'm pretty sure there R/T is nowhere close.
+Alan Bowers and If this looks like any American four door, it’s the Chevy SS. Go look at profile pics of both. Minus the fastback of the Kia they look very similar.
Automatic = who cares?
Something like 90% of new car buyers...