@@ControlGuyMTG i have loads of fun decks already, just two who can abuse the mulligan mechanics like that for quick and easy games.. Mono red laelia the blade reforged for brawl(94 lands, its another stupid combo deck that dies to removal) and now this😁
@ControlGuyMTG That is a fair assessment. Not sure what WotC can do about it without bans, given the makeup of the deck. Will be interesting to see if they break or bend their nonban rule for it.
fair assessment! the problem is oracle is a card that is brocken as a 1x in the deck so restricting it does literal nothing. Wizards said they won't be banning cards in timeless so unless they change that oracle is here to stay :/
This deck looks horrendous and i feel like i was click baited well done. Your opponent wasnt lucky they played a 6 mana bad card in timeless because your deck gave them enough time to.
yeah, almost all red decks are simply played more in bo1 because they're the ez, cheap, braindead option that just pulls out wins because the opponent kept a hand expecting to play mtg instead of subtraction race game.
All I'm saying is every single format Thoracle is legal in has banned cards that are significantly less unhealthy for the game. CEDH tournaments in particulat are borderline decided by THORACLE, a two mana card.
@@bigspagheti4119 yeah I lowkey agree... like i think thoracle decks aren't tier 1 in timeless but the card just enables "empty your library" decks a little too much.
Noice, a budget deck to farm my dailies. Thanks mate :D
hahaha to be fair it kinda plays itsself so yeah xD
@@ControlGuyMTG i have loads of fun decks already, just two who can abuse the mulligan mechanics like that for quick and easy games.. Mono red laelia the blade reforged for brawl(94 lands, its another stupid combo deck that dies to removal) and now this😁
Thanks, running this with all basic lands til it gets banned or I get bored
Mystic sanctuary is good tech actually based ty
honestly tibalt's trickery is funnier cuz with that you never know what you will hit xD but yeah this deck is good for grinding dailys
Nice video!!!
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That's a smart interaction! Kudos!
I wish I was the one who discovered it lol I just ran into it while playing
Turn 4 is a pretty fair win turn in timeless though.
100% it's not brocken as in too strong I just think that the play pattern is not really magic? i guess...
@ControlGuyMTG That is a fair assessment. Not sure what WotC can do about it without bans, given the makeup of the deck. Will be interesting to see if they break or bend their nonban rule for it.
Since you're winning on turn 4, couldn't you use Jace and play this in historic as well?
no because you would need 4 energy
@@joelbuschaus8505 ah. Right. I wonder if maybe something with Tune the Narrative as well? Then you get 4 energy. Thinking...
@@rubeshere the problem is you need to guarantee than the seek hits oracle and raptor or else the oracle won't be at the bottom :/
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Seek isn't the issue - it's Thassa's Oracle. It's just another way that it's broken.
fair assessment! the problem is oracle is a card that is brocken as a 1x in the deck so restricting it does literal nothing. Wizards said they won't be banning cards in timeless so unless they change that oracle is here to stay :/
i cracked the stifle deck, sultai is still a better option for control than jeskai i think.
Deck
2 Breeding Pool (RNA) 246
1 Island (UST) 213
1 Swamp (UST) 214
2 Oko, Thief of Crowns (ELD) 197
2 Undercity Sewers (MKM) 270
2 Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath (THB) 229
3 Sorin of House Markov (MH3) 245
4 Reanimate (OTP) 18
3 Mana Drain (OTP) 11
3 Deathrite Shaman (RTR) 213
3 Orcish Bowmasters (LTR) 103
3 Watery Grave (GRN) 259
4 Polluted Delta (KTK) 239
1 Verdant Catacombs (MH2) 260
4 Misty Rainforest (MH2) 250
1 Overgrown Tomb (GRN) 253
1 Forest (UST) 216
4 Stifle (SCG) 52
3 Grief (SPG) 46
3 Nulldrifter (MH3) 13
2 Hedge Maze (MKM) 262
1 Gaea's Blessing (DAR) 161
3 Thoughtseize (OTP) 20
1 The One Ring (LTR) 246
3 Dark Ritual (STA) 26
this looks very good tbh! not too sure about dark ritual since the card is a little awkward to topdeck but i can see this deck being real good!
@@ControlGuyMTG i ended up bringing rit down to 2, it allows a turn 2 nulldrifter, or bowmaster/sorin play. I think 2 is right number
@@dubsthelegacy good work!
This deck looks horrendous and i feel like i was click baited well done. Your opponent wasnt lucky they played a 6 mana bad card in timeless because your deck gave them enough time to.
@@LooseGooseGamer hahahaa trust me I hate the deck
This seems terrible in a grief format
I WISH i got griefed (again the deck is ass I just think it shouldn't even exist)
They could just ban red from bo1
@@demarge1065 hahaha ban all mountains amd red producing lands 😂
yeah, almost all red decks are simply played more in bo1 because they're the ez, cheap, braindead option that just pulls out wins because the opponent kept a hand expecting to play mtg instead of subtraction race game.
Just ban thoracle. Would anyone be actually upset?
All I'm saying is every single format Thoracle is legal in has banned cards that are significantly less unhealthy for the game. CEDH tournaments in particulat are borderline decided by THORACLE, a two mana card.
@@bigspagheti4119 yeah I lowkey agree... like i think thoracle decks aren't tier 1 in timeless but the card just enables "empty your library" decks a little too much.
@@bigspagheti4119 yeah I've heard bad things about thoracle in cEDH 😬
Oracle isn’t tier 1 or tier 2 in any format the closest it gets is legacy and vintage doomsday and those decks are super interesting and healthy.
@@JohnSmith-l1r agreed i think the only format where it is a legit problem is cEDH
I love not playing magic
I also like playing solitaire but I prefer when it's with a control deck!