Does this combo from 1996 hold up?

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  • Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
  • Magic: The Gathering Arena deck tech & gameplay with a monoblack Necropotence deck, featuring Dark Ritual, The One Ring and Sheoldred, The Apocalypse in Timeless.
    00:00 - Deck Tech
    04:46 - Match 1
    12:35 - Match 2
    21:13 - Match 3
    25:13 - Match 4
    33:47 - Match 5
    37:04 - Match 6
    Decklist:
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    Untapped: bit.ly/untapped-LVD
    Ultimate Guard: bit.ly/UG-LegenVD
    Patreon: / legenvd
    "Movement Proposition" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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  • @altromonte15
    @altromonte15 7 месяцев назад +37

    It's impressive how bad autotapper is, tapping nykthos for 1 colorless when you have a bunch of open swamps is really something else.

    • @carlhannah1884
      @carlhannah1884 7 месяцев назад +6

      Seems to have gotten worse with Timeless. It absolutely hates tapping cavern of souls in the appropriate moments as well.

    • @willsmith-qb5bn
      @willsmith-qb5bn 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@carlhannah1884 yea thats happening in standard too

    • @vladdracula2643
      @vladdracula2643 3 месяца назад +1

      The amount of times the auto tapper has lost me a ranked game really grates my ass

  • @bayardselby58
    @bayardselby58 7 месяцев назад +7

    You are the best RUclipsr to fall asleep to. That's meant as a compliment

  • @dagonhydra
    @dagonhydra 7 месяцев назад +25

    This is a nice variation on the mono black decks I’ve seen going around! It didn’t look like Necro worked super well in the deck, it generally seemed like The One Ring was working more with the rest of the build, but I think in a Bo3 version maybe it’s a good sideboard if the opponent is on Sheoldred + Bowmaster.
    I think a couple of copies of Beseech the Mirror could be good, either popping necro so you can draw again, or getting rid of a high One Ring, and you have 3 really good targets for it (ring, necro, and Karn).
    Also with Necro in the deck, I'd be thinking about leaning more into the devotion with cards like Gray Merchant. It can be both a finisher and a life gain source, and gets around leyline.
    Great video!

    • @OMGclueless
      @OMGclueless 7 месяцев назад +3

      I think a deck with Dark Ritual and The One Ring can't really be a devotion deck. You're just not going to have a lot of pips on board if you're spending your resources on turboing out colorless cards.

    • @dagonhydra
      @dagonhydra 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@OMGclueless right, I didn’t explicitly say it, but my suggestions were around the idea of choosing one or the other as the draw engine. Obviously if you choose the One Ring, devotion isn’t the way and you can cut stuff like Nykthos. Meanwhile with Necro you could really lean into it.

  • @Asian_Caleb
    @Asian_Caleb 7 месяцев назад +31

    It might be neat to have a one off peer into the abyss in there

  • @Legsman258
    @Legsman258 7 месяцев назад +1

    respect for the best dark ritual art in the thumbnail

  • @HellScream107
    @HellScream107 7 месяцев назад +26

    The infamous "Black Summer" combo back on a cold winter day.

    • @jollyjoker6340
      @jollyjoker6340 7 месяцев назад +1

      Assuming the combo refers to Dark Ritual / Necropotence, I really wouldn't combine them. Playing a T1 Necropotence and drawing three just replaces both cards and the draw you miss. I played Necro back in 1996 and the common wisdom was to play it when you needed to refill your hand. The first turn Ritual was for Hypnotic Spectre or Hymn To Tourach + Demonic Consultation for a second one.

    • @theotheralan5511
      @theotheralan5511 6 месяцев назад

      Very true, but that was before duress or similar effects were common, before blue control decks were common. I often turn one necro to duck under thoughtsize and stubborn denial. 😅​@@jollyjoker6340

  • @testerfritz
    @testerfritz 7 месяцев назад +1

    Dark ritual, Necro. Good old memories :-)

  • @CyberBuster93
    @CyberBuster93 7 месяцев назад +2

    TIMELESS IS SO DAMN COOL MAN!!!!
    You're seriously the most gift deck builder I watch, Luca. You're friggin awesome man! Appreciate all you do!!!!!

  • @wilkerribeiro1997
    @wilkerribeiro1997 7 месяцев назад +2

    Love the timeless content

  • @jogywhite5389
    @jogywhite5389 7 месяцев назад

    you're on fire legen

  • @John.Smithing.lvl100
    @John.Smithing.lvl100 7 месяцев назад +4

    Turn 2 sheoldred 🗿🗿🗿

  • @nurikhsan8821
    @nurikhsan8821 7 месяцев назад

    The One Ring and Necropotence. The epitome of pure, unadulterated greedy Black...

  • @the.50caliberapple80
    @the.50caliberapple80 7 месяцев назад +3

    Another potential play you had at minute 31 against the domain deck was Karn grabs liquimetal coating, upkeep lock the domain player out of their 5th land- would have been a gamble if they drew an untapped land 6, but if they didn’t you coulda LD’d them out of the game

    • @the.50caliberapple80
      @the.50caliberapple80 7 месяцев назад +1

      I also wouldn’t mind seeing a warmcoil in the karnboard. Overall I love the deck and will be using it as a base for my first timeless deck. Amazing content as always, LVD. Your exquisite gameplay provides a lot of value.

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  7 месяцев назад +4

      Yeah the wishboard has some wiggle room!

  • @SpitefulAZ
    @SpitefulAZ 7 месяцев назад

    Hope you make more time less videos!

  • @mrkroket
    @mrkroket 7 месяцев назад +8

    Basically Sheoldred + One Ring with extra steps. I don't see Necropotence adds any synergy with the main victory condition (shelly + card draw)

    • @llamarama6976
      @llamarama6976 7 месяцев назад +3

      I would of probably gone a gary route. Mono black devotion but you are slamming necropotence for more pips. Run march for the card conversion and more life.

    • @SoggyWaffles.
      @SoggyWaffles. 7 месяцев назад +1

      you don't see how drawing 10 cards helps you assemble your combo?

    • @theotheralan5511
      @theotheralan5511 6 месяцев назад

      I have played a lot of versions of this lately, necropotence can feel a bit redundant, because having sheoldred and ring unanswered is almost a guaranteed win. Unless you are playing against a titan deck. Then you get stomped 😂

  • @AkodoNoEyes
    @AkodoNoEyes 5 месяцев назад

    What graveyard hate would you use? Tormod’s Crypt? Relic of Progentiuosususu? One of the many claws and lanterns?

  • @emorsi
    @emorsi 6 месяцев назад

    You know, what really makes Legend as a player so hard to beat is his very high skill level combined with his unbelievable luck he definitaly has in what he draws. For instance... opp goes all the way to destroy his One Ring and the next card Legend draws is a One Ring.

  • @carlhannah1884
    @carlhannah1884 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thoughtsieze/Inquistion into Bowmasters into Necro/Shelly/One Ring is so miserable to play against.

  • @Psychotic6
    @Psychotic6 7 месяцев назад

    Would Vito / Sanguine bond work here also?

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  7 месяцев назад +1

      Maybe as slightly different deck that's more focused on the combo, but doubt it would be very competitive.

  • @AkodoNoEyes
    @AkodoNoEyes 7 месяцев назад +2

    Don’t forget Ivory Tower. And Reliquary Tower

    • @maciek19882
      @maciek19882 7 месяцев назад +2

      And Lake of the Dead, Order of these on Hand, Hymn to Tourach, Sinkhole

    • @testerfritz
      @testerfritz 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@maciek19882 Priceless :-D

    • @AkodoNoEyes
      @AkodoNoEyes 7 месяцев назад

      @@maciek19882the Necro deck thst won didn’t have sink hole. One of Strip Mine, one of Zuran Orb, one of Ivory Tower. Ran 4 Hymns, 3/4 Contagion, 3/4 Stupor, 4 Hypnotic Spector, 1/2 Ishan’s Shade, 2 Sengir Vampires, 1/2 Serrated Arrows, 4 Drain Life, 4 Disks, 2 Demonic Consultstions, 4 Necropotence, 2/3 Coercions, 4 Dark Rituals, 2 Lake of the Dead, bunch of Swamps,
      The real clutch deal was 2 Lodestone Baubles in the sideboard to take swamps in the graveyard to put them back on the deck and Soul Burns for more life gains.
      At least thst was how the standard version was.

    • @AkodoNoEyes
      @AkodoNoEyes 7 месяцев назад

      Then there was the post Iceage block rotation version thst was more aggro. They worried about Necropotence and Disk so much they reprinted them in 5th edition. 😂😂😂😂.
      I ran the deck for years. The best part was how the deck was basically Hatred Black with more control elements.

  • @jinxsiemcdeath6250
    @jinxsiemcdeath6250 7 месяцев назад

    Nah, we need more undercosted and/or free effects to relive the Necro of old. Firestorm in particular, Contagion, Unmask, Strip Mine, etc

  • @ZanderEzekial77
    @ZanderEzekial77 7 месяцев назад +1

    IDK how they would do this, but I would love them to put in card styles of the old art for cards like Dark Ritual and Necro that were introduced in these highly stylistic subsets. It's not really old magic unless I see that dude with the cloak from Alpha.

    • @MoldMice
      @MoldMice 7 месяцев назад

      I completely agree with this and think it's kinda strange they didn't put them in. Not even as an alt art at the very least.

  • @jonstein1579
    @jonstein1579 7 месяцев назад +1

    Draw fast, cowboy

  • @strawman6578
    @strawman6578 7 месяцев назад +2

    This format is stronger than modern, is it?

  • @reijiriffic
    @reijiriffic 7 месяцев назад

    This was when i started mtg long time ago. Ah the memories of unsleeved playing

  • @maciek19882
    @maciek19882 7 месяцев назад +1

    Where's Hypnotic Specter?

    • @testerfritz
      @testerfritz 7 месяцев назад +1

      Lost in the ring.

  • @AzazelReborn81
    @AzazelReborn81 7 месяцев назад +2

    And people wonder why Sauron wanted to have his ring back so badly… jokes aside, thanks for this great content - it isn’t that easy to find Bo1 content for Timeless. Let alone good content. Much appreciated.

  • @OGNoNameNobody
    @OGNoNameNobody 7 месяцев назад

    Where the hell is your *Corrupt* ?

  • @rikysi3280
    @rikysi3280 7 месяцев назад

    Font of agonies could be a nice alternative to fatal push?

  • @grghkllb3875
    @grghkllb3875 7 месяцев назад

    Really shows the power of The One Ring - no wonder Sauron wanted it back so badly!

  • @nightwingaven69
    @nightwingaven69 7 месяцев назад

    works better with Illusions and Donate

  • @dragade101
    @dragade101 7 месяцев назад

    Cute lol

  • @BelieMyBurial
    @BelieMyBurial 7 месяцев назад

    absolutely crushed to not see Hypnotic Specter in a Dark Ritual list 😔

    • @Big_Dai
      @Big_Dai 7 месяцев назад +1

      Too old, too inefficient

  • @arielquelme
    @arielquelme 7 месяцев назад

    Necropotence black winter
    Wait till Timeless release Donate
    The t error of Necro+donate will kill all

    • @AstoranSolaire
      @AstoranSolaire 7 месяцев назад

      Harmless Offering is already on the platform.

  • @AkodoNoEyes
    @AkodoNoEyes 7 месяцев назад +1

    Nice I’m the 666th like hahah 😂😅 👿 😈

  • @lesternomo6578
    @lesternomo6578 7 месяцев назад

    only a bit into the vid but you should really be drawing with the ring in your mainphase instead of opp end step

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  7 месяцев назад +1

      We often didn't have better plays available in the deck in those spots, so better to wait and have more information before committing to the Burden counters. There's no choice that's always right or wrong in every situation, always have to re-evaluate.

    • @lesternomo6578
      @lesternomo6578 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@LegenVD its marginal but i feel like drawing first to get a better view of your options was better in a lot of situations at least while you had most of your health, e.g when you had karn countered you could have drawn and seen 2 sheoldreds and weighed which you would mind getting countered less, or see that you had another sheoldred coming so you could run one out to bait removal/counter. it's also better in the case that they have a leyline binding/tear asunder type effect where they can deny your draw by responding to the tap.
      i just have a hard time seeing a case where you wouldnt choose to draw by the opponent's end step in the early game scenarios where life total is high.
      certainly i don't think it's a hard rule though and i was really only commenting with the first match in mind lol

  • @JRandall0308
    @JRandall0308 7 месяцев назад

    Thumbs up if you still have a copy of Rob Hahn’s article about Necropotence!

  • @FuzzyWalrus123
    @FuzzyWalrus123 7 месяцев назад

    Most famous card no one can pronounce for some reason. Do you read omnipotence as "om-nee-poe-tents" too? Is necropolis "nekro-poe-lis"?

    • @ziziorens348
      @ziziorens348 7 месяцев назад +1

      What?.. And how should it be pronounced then?

    • @thekevmeister77
      @thekevmeister77 7 месяцев назад

      ​Like this: necropolis, omnipotence. Yw @@ziziorens348

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  7 месяцев назад +12

      I'm parroting what I've heard on the official Magic coverage many times.

    • @Nicksizzle77
      @Nicksizzle77 7 месяцев назад +6

      Necropotence is a fictional word. As such, it can be pronounced however the creator deems it to be. With that said, Mark Rosewater, head designer of MTG, has gone on record in stating it is indeed pronounced "Neck-Crow-Po-Tents".

    • @honestabe411
      @honestabe411 7 месяцев назад +5

      lol English doesn’t work like that, just because words are spelled similarly doesn’t mean that they are pronounced similarly