The 7 Most OVERRATED Guns [2022 Edition]

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
  • In this episode of TFBTV, James Reeves reviews the 7 most overrated guns. It's not his list, it's yours, since you all picked them out yourselves on the TFBTV subreddit @ reddit.com/r/tfbtv
    Here are some hints: We've got some old favorites, some really good rifles and pistols that are just overpriced, some Dirty Harry guns, some C&R rifles, and some of James favorite pistols made the list too. :(
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  • @JamesReeves
    @JamesReeves 2 года назад +284

    If you could remove one gun OR add one gun to this list, what would it be and why?

    • @davemckewan4450
      @davemckewan4450 2 года назад +41

      The G19 for the very comment I just posted.

    • @robspath4203
      @robspath4203 2 года назад +34

      I would remove HK and add any Ruger DA revolver. I guess that says a lot about me doesn’t it?

    • @markmcgaugh7802
      @markmcgaugh7802 2 года назад +32

      I'd remove HK VP9.I take mine out on the ranch. It can be dropped on rough terrain again and again and still have the high quality performance. The ruggedness makes it worth the extra cost.

    • @ryanshiver9044
      @ryanshiver9044 2 года назад +99

      any 9mm glock is overrated.

    • @sdog74
      @sdog74 2 года назад +63

      I'd remove the 1911. Not only does its rank at #7 on your originally "Top 5" list make it technically an "Honorable Mention" but (unlike the M1A/M14) its modernized variants improve upon the original design with better quality, utility, and aesthetics. It no longer shoots only .45 ACP but also can be chambered in 9mm and just about any other pistol caliber. It's available at any price point from $400 to $4000+ and is made by every major manufacturer--precisely because there's a thriving market for it.
      The 1911 isn't just a classic firearm. It's also hella fun to shoot and super cool to handle. Like the Glock 19, no gun collection is complete without one. (I'd move the G19 down to #6 and into "Honorable Mention" territory, too. Both of these guns are overrated AND underrated, depending on whom you ask.)

  • @R3DR1NG78
    @R3DR1NG78 2 года назад +2172

    “You’re not a navy seal, you shop at kohl’s and you use kohls cash.” 😂 Straight murder right there

    • @docbailey3265
      @docbailey3265 2 года назад +82

      …because your wife told you to 😂

    • @AEtrane
      @AEtrane 2 года назад +173

      ...real talk Kohl's Cash can net you some slammin' deals

    • @Matt-xc6sp
      @Matt-xc6sp 2 года назад +67

      “You’re a man who understands Mean Girls references”
      He took us all down with that one.

    • @MavHunter20XX
      @MavHunter20XX 2 года назад +25

      Emotional Damage!

    • @lanceblinent7909
      @lanceblinent7909 2 года назад +4

      Maybe he lives in the Kohl region. Get it?

  • @jesseshooter4403
    @jesseshooter4403 2 года назад +87

    Most overrated guns video
    Starts with a Glock ad

  • @7crucify
    @7crucify 2 года назад +1479

    James Reeves would like Cheesecake Factory, after all they're both pretty similar. Pretentious and over-priced. Love the video TFB

    • @2Skinny
      @2Skinny 2 года назад +61

      Cheesecake Factory is pretentious?

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 2 года назад +22

      Cheesecakes taste the same to me.

    • @taylorlibby7642
      @taylorlibby7642 2 года назад +19

      Cheesecake is overpriced?

    • @salvydelacrack4155
      @salvydelacrack4155 2 года назад +21

      Macaroni and cheese burger, real pretentious. ;)

    • @afreightdogslife
      @afreightdogslife 2 года назад +12

      Hahahaha spot on. James Reeves I like you man, you are one of my favorite go to guns, people love to hate. Just like the Yankee Marshal, 🤣

  • @jacobabney1534
    @jacobabney1534 Год назад +111

    I loved the part where he showcased the H&K USP and put the button in the mag backwards. Idk how many people picked up on that but I tip my hat to you James. Well down for that inside joke.

    • @kevinford8821
      @kevinford8821 Год назад +8

      A nice nod to the marketing literature H&K published when this pistol was introduced! Nice...

    • @200434ton
      @200434ton Год назад +1

      I was just watching this and wondering if anyone else noticed that lol. Had to skim through here to see 😂

    • @mydude4719
      @mydude4719 Год назад

      @@200434ton Same here.

    • @sultanofsick
      @sultanofsick 8 месяцев назад

      personally I don't put buttons in my magazines at all.

  • @Trey5003
    @Trey5003 2 года назад +373

    Honestly love that you loaded the usp magazine like their brochure taught you to 😆 🤣

    • @alohm
      @alohm 2 года назад +29

      Still laughing about that burn ;)

    • @gsxrsean
      @gsxrsean 2 года назад +4

      Except it was a P2000.

    • @theumpteenthtime8854
      @theumpteenthtime8854 2 года назад +21

      I made my way to the comments just for this.

    • @stephenflook9403
      @stephenflook9403 2 года назад +18

      Oh God, I'm so glad I'm not the first person who noticed that instantly!

    • @mikeskinner0815
      @mikeskinner0815 2 года назад +4

      I might've giggled a little at that 🤣

  • @connormckay9429
    @connormckay9429 2 года назад +610

    The one thing that is never overrated is the shortness of James's tactical spankers

    • @anthonycioffi0331
      @anthonycioffi0331 2 года назад +19

      Excellent Elite Tactical Spankers

    • @sasquatch440
      @sasquatch440 2 года назад +13

      Speaking of cheesecake factory, those shorts look like they've got two camel back bladders built into the rear

    • @skeetwebster9389
      @skeetwebster9389 2 года назад

      😄😄😄

    • @SoccerVJ2011
      @SoccerVJ2011 2 года назад +2

      Idk wide body 1911’s are pretty relevant (Stacatto, MPA, etc) in competition.

    • @SoccerVJ2011
      @SoccerVJ2011 2 года назад

      Winchester Ranger-T 45 stands out that it expands to 25mm

  • @bandit6272
    @bandit6272 2 года назад +250

    Until I found this channel, I didn't realize the gun community had a crippling lack of quality trolling. Thank you for catering to a need I didn't know we had 👏

    • @MrHeavy466
      @MrHeavy466 2 года назад +3

      /k/ can give some good trolling every once and a while.

    • @KotaMW
      @KotaMW 2 года назад +3

      Ppl get but hurt so fast it’s like liberals

    • @holymolythejabroni9040
      @holymolythejabroni9040 2 года назад

      @@KotaMW the fuck are you talking about the gun community is full of conservatives lol

    • @maplemaple1439
      @maplemaple1439 2 года назад +3

      I love this guy so much, his douchey personality is far more entertaining than any of the high speed low drag operator channels out there (not that those are necessarily terrible, but James is just better)

    • @jorgecrespo660
      @jorgecrespo660 Год назад +1

      Tundra tactical....

  • @danielpreciado3112
    @danielpreciado3112 Год назад +32

    Every time I think my Sig P226 might've been too expensive, I remember that HK makes handguns, which is like the Apple of the gun world.

    • @DillonG71
      @DillonG71 8 месяцев назад +1

      as a 226 legion rxp owner, i agree.

    • @hunternichols9463
      @hunternichols9463 6 месяцев назад +1

      Hell tbh I'd take a Base P226 over a HK

    • @DTC-ex7wg
      @DTC-ex7wg 2 месяца назад +2

      @@DillonG71 same was a great purchase, but I will still own a Mk.23... eventually

  • @P2J2
    @P2J2 2 года назад +54

    "Reddit sucks" is an absolute understatement.

  • @gsojohn5079
    @gsojohn5079 2 года назад +80

    Good stuff. In 1981 I bought my first 1911, a Series 70 Colt. My Dad told me not to buy that POS and pointed to another gun in the case that was far superior, a Browning Hi Power. Of course, I was young and dumb. Why listen to the advice of my WWII combat vet Dad who stomped across Europe in Patton's 3rd Army? What did he know? Years later, traded that jamming POS for a SW 357. I miss you Dad......

    • @brandonhallam51
      @brandonhallam51 2 года назад +2

      Check out the GN High Power that they released recently. Its a cool throwback

    • @Wes0602
      @Wes0602 2 года назад +2

      Get a high power for em’

    • @ham5483
      @ham5483 2 года назад +2

      Colt series 70 werent the best 1911s...

  • @andreivaldez2929
    @andreivaldez2929 2 года назад +34

    18:00 That classic, backwards round in the magazine 👌

    • @ryangowin1988
      @ryangowin1988 2 года назад +7

      Saw that, so I checked comments to see if anyone else did too. Good eye.

    • @farhan.naushad
      @farhan.naushad 2 года назад

      I found that photo in a Facebook group. Made me question every single decision this company makes and to stay away. This was originally from a product catalog. You know, the publication you send to your potential customers about how good you are and how you deserve their hard earned money.

    • @terminator9671
      @terminator9671 2 года назад

      @@ryangowin1988 same

  • @Willmanis1
    @Willmanis1 Год назад +63

    My mom just bought a vp9 for herself. She chose it just because of it's ergonomics. She's owned Glock, shot sigs and S&W but as soon as she put her hands on the vp9, she loved it. Took her to the range and she actually shot something like 5-10 points better on the silhouette

    • @st3v3npwnz
      @st3v3npwnz Год назад +1

      That's exactly what I just said, my h&k,sig, and Springfield are better

    • @edackley8595
      @edackley8595 Год назад +5

      Agree with James on HK AND absolutely LOVE my VP9.

    • @realQuestion
      @realQuestion Год назад +4

      Ergonomics matter. Walther attempted to redefine themselves around this, and they're making it
      Finger grooves will never be for everyone, but I wonder how far away we are from "smart material" grips that active-conform and mean you don't have to choose between grooves or no grooves...

    • @ThrowbackRacing
      @ThrowbackRacing Год назад +1

      Is it the regular or the subkompact? I’ve got the VP40 and love it too

  • @DarkysLPs
    @DarkysLPs 2 года назад +64

    "Less Franziskaner and more Becks Pilsener" As a German this really resonates with me.

    • @markh.6687
      @markh.6687 2 года назад

      Mein Gott, Walter! :)
      But see also: "Ich Habe Polizei" where they play on the joke with "Mein Gott, Walther!" ruclips.net/video/PNjG22Gbo6U/видео.html

    • @ch4osaeternum74
      @ch4osaeternum74 2 года назад

      Yes.

  • @jackstecker5796
    @jackstecker5796 2 года назад +153

    Springfield 1911 was the first gun I ever bought. LOL 21 year old me showed it to my grandfather, and I was seriously concerned I wasn't going to get it back. I showed it to my Sgt. at the police department I was working for at the time. He said "what do you need that for?" Uhm, its called the bill of rights, not the bill of needs. He was not a fan of that answer.

    • @firstNamelastName-ho6lv
      @firstNamelastName-ho6lv 2 года назад +2

      Lol nice

    • @Whiskey11Gaming
      @Whiskey11Gaming 2 года назад +19

      Sounds like you had a moron sergeant like I did... Mine convinced the chief to buy the entire department H&K HK45's for duty handguns and Ruger SR556's (the piston driven ones) for the AR15's... talk about a waste of tax payer money for overpriced and overhyped shit!
      I showed him an article from Lucky Gunner about steel case vs brass case ammo one day... not because of the topic, but because of the cleaning regimen they used... Basically a drop of oil in the cam pin every 2500 rounds, exterior bolt wipe down every 5000k rounds and a detail cleaning at 10k... through all of that, not one of the AR's had any significant number of stoppages. He was flabbergasted that a DI AR15 would last that long. So dumb.

    • @bracoop2
      @bracoop2 2 года назад +5

      @@Whiskey11Gaming that’s insane you would 100% think that he’d go for a 9mm with more capacity than 10 rounds. That makes no sense.

    • @Whiskey11Gaming
      @Whiskey11Gaming 2 года назад +1

      @@bracoop2 The HK45 was a .45ACP handgun, but still.

    • @douglasshouganai2516
      @douglasshouganai2516 2 года назад +12

      @@Whiskey11Gaming a LEO that doesn't respect the Constitution is worse than one who wastes taxpayer money on guns in my opinion

  • @bcamp6088
    @bcamp6088 2 года назад +55

    This hit Fudds in all of their sweet spots, if you had included a lever gun there could have been a drop in life expectancy among our Elmer bros

    • @cercaz
      @cercaz 2 года назад +5

      I too thought the same about lever guns, but there's one niche : suppressing a 38 lever gun for that subsonic goodness

    • @bcamp6088
      @bcamp6088 2 года назад +6

      @@cercaz I love lever guns, and many other fudd favorites.

    • @con6lex
      @con6lex 2 года назад +2

      Agree on Kar 98k, due to the ammo. 8mm Mauser is too powerful for short rifle. Give me a 6.5 or 7.

    • @channtastic
      @channtastic 2 года назад +10

      I think lever guns have a place in modern society. It makes sense to modernize the lever gun, especially if you live in a hellhole like California that doesn’t favor ARs.

    • @BeingFireRetardant
      @BeingFireRetardant 2 года назад +5

      Except that Lever guns are underrated, except by people who don't shoot them.

  • @muertolamento
    @muertolamento Год назад +55

    "You're not a navy seal, you shop at Kohl's" is how I feel about most gun owners lol

    • @JosephsCoat
      @JosephsCoat Год назад +3

      But I live in Virginia Beach. And I know seals who shop at Kohls…

    • @Lotvk
      @Lotvk Год назад +2

      I don't think most gun owners think they're seals

    • @jsanc316
      @jsanc316 Год назад +3

      ​@@JosephsCoat you're right...most think the seals are over glorified lifeguards and they could win a war by themselves 😂😂

  • @garrett8794
    @garrett8794 2 года назад +28

    I think we all need to stop at 18:00 to appreciate the HK-accurate orientation of the bullets in his mag. subtle, but had me cracking up.

    • @chibineo24
      @chibineo24 2 года назад

      I also caught that! Frog would approve

  • @patrickdaly5068
    @patrickdaly5068 2 года назад +87

    As always you never disappoint and always make me laugh. I love the Mr. Rogers like ending with the music. Next time incorporate some creepy puppets. BTW, it’s certainly not a prime carry gun, but I’ve fired a couple of those big .44s that belonged to friends, and the length of the barrel mitigated a lot of the recoil I feared was coming, and I’m a small guy. They were fun to shoot.

    • @HiroNguy
      @HiroNguy 2 года назад +3

      My choice for hunting firearm would actually be a Super Redhawk in .44Mag with a scope and 6-8 inch barrel.
      That's partly because I admit that I'm lousy at hunting, do love hiking in the wilderness, and would like an actual chance at bagging venison if I finally put myself into a clear shot.
      Not humping around a heavy rifle given all that is the goal.

    • @steveelder5306
      @steveelder5306 2 года назад +2

      @@HiroNguy they're pretty damn heavy anyway. I have 3 .44 mags a Super Redhawk that's accurate as fuck and real easy on the hands. it's good with a scope or iron sights but damn it's ugly. for the OP I have 4 5/8 SBH and a 7.5 SBH and the shorter barrel kicks less in my opinion. it's too many .44's but the story of how they came my way is too long for here. what can I say? I'm a Fudd.

    • @Brandon-yq1tm
      @Brandon-yq1tm 2 года назад +2

      @@HiroNguy I own the Super Redhawk in 44 mag with a 7.5 inch barrel and the sights on it even without a scope makes it super accurate and the weight makes it fun to shoot. Also had a friend who is a leather worker make me a shoulder holster so it's not that bad to carry either.

    • @Brandon-yq1tm
      @Brandon-yq1tm 2 года назад +3

      @@steveelder5306 I got lucky with mine, used for $500 before the coof happened. I saw it and immediately put half down and picked it up the next week.

    • @VincitOmniaVeritas7
      @VincitOmniaVeritas7 2 года назад +1

      Smith Wesson Magnum Hunter for me. That muzzle break and 8” inch barrel tames the .44 mag easily. I put a red dot on and zeroed it to 50 yards. The gun is as accurate as a .44 mag can be (more accurate than my lever action marlin with its stupid 1:38 twist rate anyway).

  •  2 года назад +195

    You know the list is accurate when almost every comment is a cope from someone pretending their gun isn't overrated.
    James hit the nail on the head with his closing statement. Louie has a good line about this too; "If you can't laugh at yourself, then I can't take you seriously."

  • @chrisabens2915
    @chrisabens2915 Год назад +17

    1911 was my first pistol. Put 100 rounds through it the other day. No problems after 15 years. Favorite rifle is my M1A. Sold my 2nd AR to help pay for it. Shoots 1” groups with my hunting loads. 150 grn Barnes TTSX. Works phenomenal on hogs here in Texas. Can often get 3-4 of them before the pack runs off with the quick follow up from the semi auto. Only clean it once a year. Only time it jammed is on a batch of hand loads that I only neck sized. Just wanted to try it. Haven’t done it agin. Just because somebody else likes something doesn’t mean it’s for you. Just because somebody else dislikes something doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try it. Perfection is perception. So buy as many as you can and if you don’t like em, find somebody who does and sell em! Then go buy some more and try those! God bless

    • @Stewart1499
      @Stewart1499 9 месяцев назад

      Where do you live?

  • @maximusjoseppi5904
    @maximusjoseppi5904 2 года назад +10

    Glock is the most overrated haha.. Bad stippling, bad ergos, bad serrations, bad sights, bad optics mounting system, no 1913 rail, bad triggers, bad trigger safeties, bad slide release.. you have to fix everything on it haha. There's no reason to pick one up when the PDP, 509, p10 exist.

  • @purebloodanglochristian8207
    @purebloodanglochristian8207 2 года назад +46

    I own three of the guns on this list:
    Colt Delta Elite (fudd gun on steroids), M1A SOCOM (16" barrel and still heavy as fck), and my newly acquired Model 29-4 (I traded a pimped out Century Arms VSKA for it)
    Thanks for making me laugh as you shamed me. 😅

    • @jbloun911
      @jbloun911 2 года назад +2

      Lucky you could even trade a gun at a store, in my area it's with others fudds or the clerks just laugh and up-charge the MSRP by 10%.

    • @jacobward2842
      @jacobward2842 2 года назад +2

      Great job at getting rid of the wmd vska and getting a safe and reliable firearm!

  • @michaelblacktree
    @michaelblacktree 2 года назад +99

    Good point. We have a common enemy. Infighting in the gun community just makes it easier for that enemy to defeat us.

    • @beardly0121
      @beardly0121 2 года назад +18

      Bro arguing about which gun is better is just for fun. It isn't infighting. That's just silly bud.

    • @michaelblacktree
      @michaelblacktree 2 года назад +5

      Fun Fact: People who start sentences with "bro" usually have a 2-digit IQ.

    • @zarinkai2927
      @zarinkai2927 2 года назад +2

      "LiBEral bAbY KilLerS !"

    • @josedorsaith5261
      @josedorsaith5261 2 года назад

      @@zarinkai2927
      How do you know if a baby is liberal or not?

    • @randominternetprofile8270
      @randominternetprofile8270 2 года назад +5

      @@michaelblacktree you're thinking "bruh" not "bro." Honest mistake though. Fairly common amongst the single digit IQ crowd.

  • @magman687
    @magman687 Год назад +24

    I couldn't help but laugh whenever I seen the round in the magazine loaded backwards knowing you had to have done that just to mess with somebody and I love that kind of humor lol

    • @ggmanatee
      @ggmanatee 7 месяцев назад +1

      It's a reference to an old HK advert where the photographer put the rounds backwards in the mag.

  • @Blackpowderdad
    @Blackpowderdad 2 года назад +215

    Your breaking my heart Fredo! The m14 saved my butt in Afghanistan. Yes it’s horribly heavy, and accuracy on paper was minute of barn door at 100m, but when the bullets were flying and my friends were clearing double feeds in their colt m4s, the old m14 was chuga lugging along and laying down 7.62 hate.

    • @wigon
      @wigon 2 года назад +28

      It's also so nice to be firing a round that can really reach out and touch someone at ranges commonly found in Afghanistan. I'm not a combat veteran, but I served in the Army Reserves between 93-2001. As a M60 gunner I absolutely adored how easily I was able to hit 600 meter targets and how I could hit out to 800 meters just with iron sights. It's a good feeling to have that kind of range and confidence in your weapon system when you see everything in 5.56mm falling way short. It's that "If I can see it, I can hit it" feeling that definitely builds confidence in a weapon system. That's why I'm not totally hating on the new SPEAR rifles. That being CQB is a whole other matter and is where I prefer 5.56mm firearms. It's all about using the right tools for the right job.

    • @Blackpowderdad
      @Blackpowderdad 2 года назад +6

      For sure

    • @Ed-ig7fj
      @Ed-ig7fj 2 года назад +8

      Guys I knew who had served in Viet Nam liked the M-14 for its ability to kill at long distances, and for its ability to chip away at an enemy's cover till the cover was gone, and so was Mr. Charles. I was born just late enough not to get drafted, so I am no expert! --Old Guy (Jeez, how can I be the old guy if I was too young...? Time flies!)

    • @whitespacemarines4308
      @whitespacemarines4308 2 года назад +15

      Don't sweat anything he has to say. You have to understand you are listening to a guy who likes his guns, like he likes his women,......."Plastic!" (lol)

    • @ScottAndersonbodicle
      @ScottAndersonbodicle 2 года назад +2

      @@whitespacemarines4308 LOL Says the guy with space jar head in his title.

  • @kevinh2345
    @kevinh2345 2 года назад +279

    I absolutely love the M14, totally outclassed in performance and far from a practical choice in comparison to whats currently available. Hell its got the shortest service life of anything adopted by the US military. But there's just something cool about it thats just fun.

    • @gavinm1347
      @gavinm1347 2 года назад +68

      If we ended up fighting a war in Russia instead of Vietnam, the m14 would have literally kicked so much ass due to the flat wide open terrain. It was just the wrong rifle for the wrong war….

    • @flyingfalcon8999
      @flyingfalcon8999 2 года назад +13

      @@gavinm1347 I agree.

    • @slabrankle9588
      @slabrankle9588 2 года назад +31

      It's beautiful to shoot and beautiful to own. There's nothing overrated about it. It's just a lovely rifle. It's military record is irrelevant to me as a civilian collector/shooter. By the standard of military record a Mosin Nagant is a better weapon because it served longer and killed more dudes. That's ridiculous.

    • @BertShackleford
      @BertShackleford 2 года назад +22

      Served me well during the Camp Perry Matches.
      It was also the preferred rifle of my youth back when I spent the majority of my time at Ben Avery's 1000 yard range.
      All the naysayers claiming that it is woefully inaccurate is utter nonsense. It's not the rifle - it's the shooter.
      Just like a J-frame revolver, the M1A/M14 is an _Experts_ gun.
      Stay classy my friends.

    • @m0nkEz
      @m0nkEz 2 года назад +31

      @@slabrankle9588 the problem with it is that an AR-10 is better in every way for less money.

  • @brandonchism6960
    @brandonchism6960 2 года назад +58

    love the backwards round in the USP magazine... great reference!!!

    • @northernninety7
      @northernninety7 2 года назад +1

      That’s forwards for HK. Nothing wrong.

    • @richcurren6888
      @richcurren6888 2 года назад +2

      Chef’s kiss.

    • @gmeapush4072
      @gmeapush4072 2 года назад +1

      I was looking to see if anyone noticed. Nice touch to the vid.

  • @ImageLoX
    @ImageLoX Год назад +28

    The main issue I have is that bullet technology has come a very long way. When describing how messed up this caliber or that caliber might be, the discussion of bullet brand needs to be brought up. We’ve all seen how Liberty ammo has a low gr high fps round. Pushing a .45 to 1900 fps. Or a 9mm to 2000+ fps. The results are so different compared to your grandpas bullets. With that said, fuk the .40 and just go 10mm. Just sayin.

    • @QualityPen
      @QualityPen 9 месяцев назад

      I discovered a website which tests handgun round ballistics and the range of performance within the same caliber is stunning.
      There’s 9mm hollow point ammo which will penetrate a few inches and barely expand. There’s 9mm hollow point ammo which can go through someone and expand to twice its normal width at the same time. Yes, brands and pressures matter.
      My recommendation after looking at that data- 9mm really needs overpressure ammo to perform adequately in self defense situations, but make sure your gun can handle it.

  • @hunterphille1280
    @hunterphille1280 2 года назад +55

    I feel I need to comment on the HK handguns. I was in my early 20s when I bought my first HK USP 45. I traded in my Beretta 92 on it to make it more easily affordable. I really liked the controls and the looks of it. However, putting a lot of rounds through it, I wondered why I put that much scratch into it. I've owned 3 different HK pistols over the years, and I've grown to really like them. To a point. Once the parts start to wear to the point of failure, the replacements are expensive and not very easy to switch out. That said, I still love them, but there are much better options out there for people who aren't really invested in keeping up an HK for hard use

    • @Falconryder
      @Falconryder 2 года назад +4

      I'm backwards you; traded my HK for a 92, lol. I liked it, but discovered to my great surprise that I shot my wife's $300 Sar 9 better, and it felt better ergo-wise for me to boot. I also could not bring myself to drop 50 dollars for an extra mag, realized I wasn't going to enjoy keeping this gun.

    • @Pprokop87
      @Pprokop87 2 года назад +3

      try CZ 75, B or C

    • @hunterphille1280
      @hunterphille1280 2 года назад +2

      @@Falconryder yeah, that's another drawback to HK, pretty much everything about them costs a lot compared to others. I remember when I sold my 2nd HK I took a huge step back financially and bought a 3rd generation Glock 19 and had enough spare to buy a 3rd gen Glock 31C off of a friend. I really miss the days when everything was more affordable!

    • @hunterphille1280
      @hunterphille1280 2 года назад

      @@Pprokop87 I really like CZ. I'm kind of ashamed to admit it, but I've never owned a CZ. Definitely on my bucket list

    • @Pprokop87
      @Pprokop87 2 года назад +2

      @@hunterphille1280 in my country it is almost imposible to legaly own a modern firearm. I wish i could have som but if i could afford them (1k$ for a cheap glock) i would have to go to hell and back to get my permission for every one firearm i would own. So i worked with some guns, shoot some more, but i'm unable own one... 😢

  • @groberts1980
    @groberts1980 2 года назад +33

    The reason someone who paid $3k for a KA gun will defend them is because they paid $3k and will defend that expenditure to the end. It's the same in most hobbies. If you severely overpay for a product, you will constantly talk about how you bought the best thing ever in that category.

    • @tfbtv
      @tfbtv  2 года назад +12

      Exactly

    • @OFFICIALUND
      @OFFICIALUND 2 года назад +4

      You're not wrong, but I think it goes deeper than that. There is defective hard-wiring in the brains of the KAC Fanboys. Your hypothesis might explain the first KAC they buy (and defend to the death), but it doesn't explain why they'll pay $150 for an Aimpoint T2 Battery Cap with the KAC logo screen printed on it, or the many other asinine purchases they'll make after they buy their SR-15 (anyone wanna buy a dimpled AR15 Barrel for $2,000? The KAC Fanboys will beat down your door for one). I say this as a KAC SR-15 owner. The first one I bought was defective. Yes, and KAC admitted it on a public forum that it was defective. So much for their reliability, huh?

    • @WolfHreda
      @WolfHreda 2 года назад +2

      That certainly explains a lot of the Warhammer 40k fan base. 🤣

    • @rushthezeppelin
      @rushthezeppelin 22 дня назад

      Cough Staccato cough....

    • @groberts1980
      @groberts1980 22 дня назад +1

      @@WolfHreda I don't know about 40K purchases, but it certainly stands in the off-road community. People will pay $1500 for a Warn winch that they will never use but will say Warn is the ONLY brand to buy. Disregarding the $600 Harbor Freight winch that also works when you need it that one time every 3 years.

  • @Nick-sx6jm
    @Nick-sx6jm 2 года назад +7

    Disappointed no AK's made the list.
    -They are touted as being as reliable as death and taxes but really arnt anymore reliable than modernish AR's
    -Poorly designed in the way you need factories the size of cities to make them cheap
    -Not really modular
    -Heavy asf for shooting such a sub par cartridge
    -Not very accurate compared to other guns. Never seen one consistently shoot under 2 MOA.
    -Need a ton of specialty tools and know how to work on them.
    -They made sense 20-30 years ago when you could get them along with 5k rounds of ammo for a Chuck-E-Cheese token, but not now.

  • @ou812also5
    @ou812also5 Год назад +13

    I own an HK USP Elite 9mm and an HK Mark 23. They are both very accurate. Stunningly so! The "match grade" triggers are ho-hum. The USP is huge and the Mark 23 is massive. Oh; and both DO cost too much money, but I continue to like them. Overall, his list was pretty much on the money.

    • @sordidsentinel
      @sordidsentinel 9 месяцев назад +1

      I love HK aesthetics, but despise their pricing. the Mark 23 is ridiculously massive. one of the few handguns i've held and thought, "yeah, this is too big for my hands to feel comfortable manipulating the controls on in a stress situation..." not to mention the $2500 price tag.... gorgeous engineering, though.

  • @TheAmazingRusski
    @TheAmazingRusski 2 года назад +21

    "No other reliable semi 308 rifles at the time"
    HK G3 and FN FAL: "Am I a joke to you?"

    • @bobjohnson1633
      @bobjohnson1633 2 года назад

      Everything European is a joke. Joke countries, joke people.

    • @usa-rb5fi
      @usa-rb5fi 2 года назад

      Don’t forget the Galil from Israel

  • @maxout214226
    @maxout214226 2 года назад +38

    You pronounced Cowboys Fans wrong

  • @andrewlabit
    @andrewlabit 2 года назад +176

    Timestamps:
    1:53 1911
    7:50 S+W Model 29
    9:37 Kar 98
    11:06 Glock 19
    13:30 KAC SR-15
    15:55 HK Handguns. All of them. Lol
    19:03 M1A/M14

    • @clone3_7
      @clone3_7 2 года назад +4

      Thank you! Hero of the comment section! :D

    • @andrewlabit
      @andrewlabit 2 года назад

      @@clone3_7 I got you fam

    • @nikobellic3526
      @nikobellic3526 2 года назад +4

      Vp9 seems like dogshit against a G17

    • @makotoyuki2199
      @makotoyuki2199 2 года назад +1

      The 1911 is kind of overrated considering the fragility of them
      Smith and Wesson Model 19 I can't comment on
      Kar98k I only like because it's German but wouldn't pay much for one
      KAC SR-15 I can't comment on either
      HK Handguns I never liked much aside from the VP9L and not much else
      M1A/M14 I HATE so eh.
      The Glock 19 I don't believe for a SECOND is the best pistol in the world.

    • @redlimes4808
      @redlimes4808 2 года назад +1

      He actually put Glock 19??? I didn't think he'd actually do it

  • @VailJohnson
    @VailJohnson Год назад +15

    love the tactical re-load at 14:35, offering up the back of your head to whom ever you were previously shooting at! cheers

  • @mikecampbell5856
    @mikecampbell5856 2 года назад +70

    I love 1911s, I carried one a lot in the Navy, but James's comments were so funny that he almost turned me. I do have a soft spot for the M14. The first time I shot one in 1979, I earned the Navy Expert Rifleman Medal.

    • @bens6865
      @bens6865 2 года назад +22

      they can poke fun of it all they want, the fact that a 110+ year old design is still relevant enough to bother the short shorts beauty is enough for me.

    • @mikecampbell5856
      @mikecampbell5856 2 года назад +9

      @@bens6865 Ha! Right on.

    • @benemery1644
      @benemery1644 2 года назад +3

      Ok boomer

    • @bens6865
      @bens6865 2 года назад +11

      @@benemery1644 I'm in my 20s but ok. Maybe you've never shot a 1911, they shoot beautifully. I don't get the hate. I can make 6-8" groups at 25 yards not even pushing myself with a basic 1911.

    • @scout3058
      @scout3058 2 года назад +2

      "Navy rifle expert" is like being the smartest kid with Downs. I wouldn't brag about that.

  • @peterearden
    @peterearden 2 года назад +31

    I love the 1911 for one reason, and one only. My grandfather left me his 1911 from WWII. It’s a Singer. Yeah, all the faults, but the resale value is amazing.

    • @revmars5222
      @revmars5222 2 года назад +11

      Never sell it, that’s truly a treasure.

    • @peterearden
      @peterearden 2 года назад +1

      @@revmars5222 I plan to sell it when my first grandkid is born. Then I’ll split the money between my kids. My grandfather made it very clear he intended for me to sell it eventually.

    • @andreawhalen4142
      @andreawhalen4142 2 года назад

      @@peterearden 40 to 85grand

    • @peterearden
      @peterearden 2 года назад

      @@andreawhalen4142 that’s a bit lower than the appraiser’s estimate, and what the last singer 1911 went for.

    • @lynnkramer1211
      @lynnkramer1211 2 года назад +1

      Make sure you pass it on and make sure that the one you pass it to understands why it is so valuable and such an honor and responsibility to own it and for them to pass it on to a worthy person next.

  • @coletrain3511
    @coletrain3511 2 года назад +33

    Everyone should remember overrated doesn't mean "bad"...and better to have a glock or 1911 (both of which I personally don't care for in relation to other handguns) than nothing at all. It's like cars, trucks, motorcycles....sometimes people like what they like and have trouble separating "likable" from "objectively great" but it's all good...buy and shoot what you like....the ribbing and trash talk is part of what guys do...no need to get emotional about it 👍

  • @Trump145
    @Trump145 2 года назад +11

    I really enjoy your videos, and to me it's all about personal preference but I love the 1911 and I'll tell you why because it was the first handgun that I fell in love with Starsky and Hutch. And I'll add this no other semi-auto or polymer gun will ever become what the 1911 is.

  • @johnnysworthout1640
    @johnnysworthout1640 2 года назад +39

    Lol I love this guy. Great videos and so true about how the gun community is. We are all enjoying the hobby we love. Don’t take the shit so seriously.

  • @ZollyOverloaded
    @ZollyOverloaded 2 года назад +8

    I caught my wife watching your videos. She says, “he has a level of clarity that other RUclips folks don’t.” She’s a lawyer… and said she could tell you were too. I said it was because you’re both jerks!
    We love your work keep it up!

  • @roydog5278
    @roydog5278 2 года назад +82

    The VP9 is unbelievably accurate for me. Academy had them on sale for $599 recently. Not overrated in the slightest..it's a steal

    • @homelessman3483
      @homelessman3483 2 года назад

      does It have the paddle style mag release ?

    • @burtonshift2training513
      @burtonshift2training513 2 года назад +4

      Yep paddle mag release is present.

    • @brandonhallam51
      @brandonhallam51 2 года назад +3

      Just picked one up from Academy this weekend... rare to find em at that price

    • @roydog5278
      @roydog5278 2 года назад +3

      @@homelessman3483 The one on sale at Academy does have the paddle mag release and 2 17 round magazines. Non optics ready

    • @rockon772
      @rockon772 2 года назад

      Not an optics ready you didn’t , you paid taxes on it and an ffl transfer fee , so it was actually closer to 700

  • @javierpatag3609
    @javierpatag3609 2 года назад +30

    Fun Fact: the people behind the movie Dirty Harry specifically wanted the Model 29 for it. The problem being that it was already out of production because of the low sales when they were making the movie. S&W had to put together one from spare parts. But because of the popularity of the movie, sales of the S&W Model 29 skyrocketed. Although it was said a lot of buyers ended up returning theirs...

    • @bobyjones3905
      @bobyjones3905 Год назад +2

      Exactly the pawn shops were full of them that had been shot one time

    • @1978garfield
      @1978garfield 2 месяца назад

      @@bobyjones3905 I have seen several S&W .500 revolvers at gun shows that look brand new and come with a box of ammo missing 1 or 2 rounds.

  • @BowWowPewPewCQ
    @BowWowPewPewCQ 2 года назад +71

    I own a Kar98k and also a Gewehr G43. However, since both were "bring backs" and I have $0 invested it's hard for me to label them overrated.

    • @k3psu48
      @k3psu48 2 года назад +11

      the only thing making the overrated at least for their price is simply american artificially high prices for them

    • @Ed-ig7fj
      @Ed-ig7fj 2 года назад +2

      I love Mauser Kar 98K rifles, but they were obsolescent in 1939. The G43 and K43's were much better and didn't have that clip system of the M-1. Enjoy your 8mm range days! --Old Guy

  • @Somewheredownintexas
    @Somewheredownintexas 2 года назад +24

    6.5 creed outperforming .308 on ballistics at distance is not an opinion, but the.308 is ubiquitous in supply, deadly AF within the range 99% of us will ever need it and the AR platform is so user friendly compared to the ranch rifle format, so there’s that.. this could be another great topic.. great vid TFB

  • @TechReviewbyIrdi
    @TechReviewbyIrdi Год назад +6

    I'm with you. I had a 40 full size Smith & Wesson and went to a 9 after years of damage to my body in the military and the workforce. I was a naysayer of 9 mm for a long time until I started shooting more with it. Much more controllable and really didn't make a difference on what I was hitting so I'm going to stick with the nine. I wouldn't let keyboard surfers ruin that experience it just means that they don't have a lot of experience themselves.

  • @facemonger66
    @facemonger66 2 года назад +8

    "The Atticus Finch of gun guys", To Kill a Mocking Bird would have been a horror story if Atticus had James' taste in shorts.

  • @9mmpeter255
    @9mmpeter255 2 года назад +28

    Glock, Glock, Glock, Glock, Glock, Glock, and Glock. 😂
    Also the mp5

    • @adamgonzalez7450
      @adamgonzalez7450 2 года назад +3

      Glock is love. Glock is life.
      Long live the Glock!

    • @Sig_P229
      @Sig_P229 2 года назад +7

      Top tier for the 80s but overrated by todays standards. Look at the micro 9mm market while Glock came out with … the 43,43x, and the 44 .22LR. Like what are you doing Glock? They are only big because of aftermarket parts.

    • @9mmpeter255
      @9mmpeter255 2 года назад +1

      @@Sig_P229 I edc the 43x lmao

    • @Sig_P229
      @Sig_P229 2 года назад

      @@9mmpeter255 with the shield mags though right? That is an aftermarket part. I own Glock, but have never carried it. Anyways, I was saying how it was comparable to the micro 9mms

    • @9mmpeter255
      @9mmpeter255 2 года назад +2

      @@Sig_P229 nope. I'm one of those weirdos who trust the Glock mags more and don't want to change the stupid mag release. I have too many Glock mags to turn back lol

  • @codyryan1027
    @codyryan1027 2 года назад +78

    I love my 1911. It's even a (Crack) Rock Island. I shoot it incredibly well and I have it all tricked out with WC parts. I'm still never going to carry it though, because it holds 8rnds and weighs as much as the guilt of my Catholic upbringing.

    • @paulmoss7940
      @paulmoss7940 2 года назад +1

      lol

    • @AlpineBishop
      @AlpineBishop 2 года назад +4

      The RI 1911s are a pretty good bigass 1911 for someone who wants one on the cheap that's reliable. My dad bought the additional 22LR slide one and we have yet to get a FTE/FTF. We have been dumping the cheapest ammo we can find in an ammo can and loading it without any discretion for the hell of it. Other than recoil springs wearing out moderately fast it's been a great time.

    • @safaricartvideos
      @safaricartvideos 2 года назад +6

      I have to respond to this, I was raised catholic and on top of that my mom was a psychologist, she used guilt trips on me like you wouldn't believe! Now as an adult when people try and guilt trip me, I laugh because I learned to overcome the master (mom). Since it's a gun video I'll throw in that I love my sig p938 which is kind of like a mini 1911.

    • @codyryan1027
      @codyryan1027 2 года назад +4

      @@safaricartvideos I used to have a 938! I loved it when it wasn't jamming like an early 2000s Ska band. Apparently certain batches were better than others in terms of reliability.

    • @michaelbaker8284
      @michaelbaker8284 2 года назад +3

      I love my rock island. It just needed a little deburring. 1911s are only obsolescent because 45acp really kind of is an obsolete cartridge, like most any other from that era.

  • @jackgreenstalk777
    @jackgreenstalk777 9 месяцев назад

    "Trying to explain the qualities of this gun are equivalent to trying to explain ding dong ditch to a kid who grew up with video doorbells" 😂 wow 😂 we have some writers here 😂😂😂

  • @themaster1dcp
    @themaster1dcp 2 года назад +10

    I appreciate the reference to the backwards loaded magazine hk advertisement lol

  • @hot_coldman
    @hot_coldman 2 года назад +5

    Unsubbed. Blocked. Reported to youtube. Reported to the fbi. Mom called. Preparing slur.

  • @pbandj37
    @pbandj37 2 года назад +33

    The H&K loaded mag is a microcosm of H&K.
    Also, I love my M1A. Has nothing done to it: stock barrel, stock stock, stock sights, stock etc...But it is a 60-70 year old platform. You don't see people pining after 60-70 year old women. The only people pining after them collectors, re-enactors and people who think that everything was better back then.
    Things evolve. You should also.

    • @jefffreeman8905
      @jefffreeman8905 2 года назад +3

      The AR-15 is still the top tier system despite being almost 70 years old.
      f course the M14 is a development of the M1, so you could argue it's a 90 year old system.

    • @unregistereduser1088
      @unregistereduser1088 2 года назад

      Tell your grandma I said hey

    • @pbandj37
      @pbandj37 2 года назад +1

      She says she doesn't know you.

    • @unregistereduser1088
      @unregistereduser1088 2 года назад

      @@pbandj37 that's just the dementia talking. However she can't REALLY talk most of the time we're together.

    • @pbandj37
      @pbandj37 2 года назад +1

      Given that she is dead, I'd say you've the dementa. But hey, if you're into dead chicks that is your problem.

  • @altortugas5979
    @altortugas5979 Год назад +40

    Loving the 1911 is like loving a Harley Davidson. Yeah, it doesn’t suck, but it’s been a long time since it was actually the best thing you could get.

    • @FuzzyWCTX
      @FuzzyWCTX Год назад +3

      Norinco 1911A1. Over 5k rounds. 1 stove pipe. No other failures. I cleaned it every 50 mags worth. Short fat and slow, when the job just needs to get done.

    • @altortugas5979
      @altortugas5979 Год назад +1

      .45 ACP?

    • @forkthepork
      @forkthepork Год назад +10

      @@FuzzyWCTX Yeah, that's every Glock owner's experience, too...except without the stove pipe, and holds 2x the ammo at 2/3 the weight.

    • @vegasnathan1976
      @vegasnathan1976 Год назад

      @@FuzzyWCTX or like a Harley...short fat slow and broken down on the side of the road

    • @SavageGreywolf
      @SavageGreywolf Год назад

      the 1911 isn't even the best John Moses Browning-designed single action pistol that saw military use you can get.
      But honestly that isn't even the point of getting a 1911. It's like a Colt SAA, you're doing it because -you want to larp as a GI- you want to enjoy the historicity of it

  • @wigon
    @wigon 2 года назад +5

    First off my background is 8 years in the U.S. Army Reserve including 3 years as a rifle and crew-served weapons instructor. I maintained an "expert" marksmanship badge. I've owned firearms privately for 30 years. All that being said, I'm super late to the 1911 game, but after buying a budget Rock Island Armory 1911A1 GI model, I'm blown away by it's reliability, it's accuracy, super sweet trigger, it's pointability, and it's overall fun factor. It very quickly became my favorite gun to shoot. For a budget pistol, RIA 1911's are just a fantastic "bang for your buck" pistol. They may be outdated overall, but a well made 1911 is a fantastic training firearm as far as learning to develop a good grip (to insure the grip safety is activated) and to develop muscle memory to flip off the safety if you wish to use a manual safety as well on your striker-fired pistols. It's just a very very solid design that I tend to shoot better than all of my other striker fired and hammer fired pistols. For those on a budget, I really think everyone should own either a RIA 1911 (who've been making them in the Philippines almost as long as Colt) or a Turkish made Girsan 1911. Both are regarded as good budget 1911's. I bought an RIA government model both because it was the cheapest but also because I liked the nostalgia factor. I got super lucky in that mine shoots point of aim, point of impact at 10 yards. However I'd recommend to anyone else to buy one with adjustable sights at least on windage. They are a bit more of a pain to clean, but if you have a sweet one, it's really hard to hate on a good well-made 1911. Those government reports in this video were most likely on the old Colt models. These days with modern manufacturing processes, companies like RIA are making them to much higher quality levels. I've hit only the 400 round marker on my RIA 1911, but so far zero malfunctions and fantastic accuracy with all ammo I've put through it including steel cased ammo and hollow point rounds.
    So can you get a shitty 1911? Yes. Some will suck, even expensive ones. But if you get a good one with a solid reputation for reliability (like the RIA models) you will be quite happy with it. .45ACP may not be any more effective than modern 9mm ammunition, however .45 ACP has a less snappy recoil impulse that kinda just feels nicer when shooting these massive 230 grain slugs from it. I have small hands and it still just feels super nice to shoot. I short, it's just a very versatile and fun gun to shoot that is a great training firearm with plenty of safety features for new shooters. I think every serious shooter should have at least one decent 1911. It may not be your primary defensive pistol, but I guarantee you that you will always have fun taking it out to the range for some precise target shooting. It's funny because I never associated .45 ACP rounds with target shooting. But now I do as I shoot my basic GI model 1911 almost as accurately as my Ruger MK 3 22/45 target pistol (.22LR). If you get a good 1911 you'll find yourself blowing out the center of your paper targets fairly quickly due to the huge holes those slugs make. So yeah a good 1911 should put a big smile on your face. That's hard to say about most firearms.

    • @blackhawk7r221
      @blackhawk7r221 2 года назад +2

      At my gun shop, the Rocks and their sister brand Citadel are far more reliable than our $2000 top shelf custom 1911’s. Quality is there and they simply run.

    • @pcpolice7937
      @pcpolice7937 2 года назад

      Good to see the RIA Sales Manager is a TFB TV loyal viewer

    • @alias1719
      @alias1719 2 года назад +1

      I, too, have only recently entered the 1911 game, with another Philippino brand - ATI. Instant love, dirt cheap and runs flawlessly.

    • @blackhawk7r221
      @blackhawk7r221 2 года назад +1

      Naw, just a career Soldier who helps sell guns at a shop. Most of our clientele is military or retired military, so I give them the straight story on our weapons. There are enough financial predators out there trying to rip off young Soldiers, so if they are set on a 1911, I always steer them to the inexpensive old reliable Rock Islands. Simply never had to send one in for a repair.

    • @wigon
      @wigon 2 года назад +2

      @@pcpolice7937 Hahaha... I wish I was the RIA Sales Manager for the U.S.. My life is a bit sad as I'm the full-time caretaker of an elederly parent. I can't get out much due to their 24 hr care needs so my only chance to relax is spending a couple of hours at the range once every two weeks with some of my favorite guns. I'm just very enthusiastic about the RIA 1911 because it's one of the best shooting pistols I've ever shot. I honestly hadn't expected much from it. But it turned out to be one of my best firearm purchases value-wise. Girsan I hear also makes fantastic budget 1911's (and Baretta M9 clones) out of Turkey.

  • @bravo2zeroCAN
    @bravo2zeroCAN 2 года назад +26

    I don’t own a 1911. I own a Shadow2. But I’ve shot a blinged up IPSC 1911. It’s just hard to hate something that shoots so well…

    • @bmstylee
      @bmstylee 2 года назад

      The Shadow 2 is a killer gun. I love my SAO version.

    • @deenyc1049
      @deenyc1049 2 года назад +1

      Shadow 2 shoots great but damn it's heavy.

    • @bravo2zeroCAN
      @bravo2zeroCAN 2 года назад +1

      @@deenyc1049 Indeed it is...which is nice for recoil, but I've moved over to a Shadow Systems MR920, and I'm back to liking the nice, light plastic guns once again.

    • @bravo2zeroCAN
      @bravo2zeroCAN 2 года назад

      @@bmstylee I have an SAO trigger in mine too. It's almost too light for a Neanderthal like me.

    • @bmstylee
      @bmstylee 2 года назад

      @@bravo2zeroCAN I'm a precision rifle shooter so I'm used to really light triggers. Generally stuff I shoot for precision the trigger are sub 2#. So the SA trigger on the Shadow 2 is pretty easy to handle. Now if I didn't have that shooting background it would be way too light for me.

  • @bettymaverick1098
    @bettymaverick1098 2 года назад +8

    You gun experts drive me nuts. In 1973 fresh out of the Marines I bought a 9 mm. Then a year later they said it was terrible so I bought a 1911 Gold Cup. Then several years later they said bye S&W 642. Then said upgrade your 45 to a new style I did. Then upgrade your 9 mm to a P365. I have to many guns now. So to be safe I try to carry at least 3 guns at all times. I hate you internet experts. You can't make your mind up about anything. I have to many guns now. My grandsons will be finding them in my closet soon one day saying why did he have so many guns.

  • @realQuestion
    @realQuestion Год назад +1

    HK45 Tactical: yes, they do still make it, and it may be the best candidate for "HK handgun worth the money"

  • @jaymatheson7115
    @jaymatheson7115 2 года назад +12

    17:59 the traditional way to load an HK mag was represented. Had me worried there for a moment.

  • @prattomatic
    @prattomatic 2 года назад +7

    Was glad to see that you featured magazines loaded in the suggested way by the H&K marketing team.

  • @toddjohnson271
    @toddjohnson271 2 года назад +149

    1911 is an outdated platform overall....still works, still can get match accuracy, but is a bit outdated. That said, Browning invented an absolute monster WAY ahead of its time, owning market for a century. Every auto now is a derivative.

    • @text-1912
      @text-1912 2 года назад +1

      Send a direct message now you just won yourself a free gun 🎁🎁🎁

    • @YourDadsBoyfriend
      @YourDadsBoyfriend 2 года назад +32

      People just get salty that a 100 yr old gun can still out perform their stupid plastic "modern" guns.
      I'll gladly take my 1911 over any other pistol I own.
      The only downfall is small mags.
      10k rounds though mine and only a handful of malfunctions I contribute to my shite reloads I crank out on the progressive as fast as it turns.

    • @51Dss
      @51Dss 2 года назад +10

      @@YourDadsBoyfriend Yeah I love my 1911s too. As for small mags - they are thinner than double stack mags and easier to carry 5 or 6 at a time. I know its supposed to be "better" to carry as much ammo as you can but honestly A round in the pipe, one mag in the gun and one in a carrier or elsewhere on my person is more than enough for me. I always figure if I'm in a situation where 18 or 19 rounds isn't enough I'm already fk-d going in and more mags won't help much if at all. Not recommending anyone else do it that way - its just my way and I've been ok with it for many years. Thankfully I have not been in a firefight yet and I hope I never will.

    • @JAy-ct2bu
      @JAy-ct2bu 2 года назад +7

      Outdated? Ignorant comment

    • @brooktech7869
      @brooktech7869 2 года назад

      @@YourDadsBoyfriend It is a tight weapon, it has malfunctions because it has little variability, but that's what makes it so accurate. It was tested by the military to be outdated and malfunction 4 times as much as modern pistols, as you saw in the video. I love the 1911 also, especially the compact ones that are modernized. It's still obsolete and that goes for the Glock 19 also size wise for CCW, you think we can't see its imprint when you carry it, we can, I saw you in the food court 100 yards away with it lol. You are wearing a full-size polo and jeans in the summer to conceal that thing.

  • @TovHenderson
    @TovHenderson Год назад +1

    Nice touch on the backward round in the H&K magazine. That was good shit right there.

  • @bobgreene438
    @bobgreene438 2 года назад +6

    I was first issued a 1911 in the summer of 1979. It rattled and I wasn't very accurate, but it did go bang every time I pulled the trigger. Since then, I've fired and carried different pistols. They're tools. If they work, I use them until they don't and then repair or replace. I still own one 1911 and I love it. I carried it for many years. It's accurate and reliable. I gave a second to my son when he turned 21 and one year for my brother's birthday, I gave him a H&K USP Tactical. That may have been a mistake because he went on to buy virtually every variant that H&K produced as a pistol or rifle (including the VP70).
    I stopped carrying the 1911 because I'm old and it's heavy. I now carry a Sig P365XL. Why the Sig? It feels good in my hand and it goes bang. Like me, it's just a tool.

  • @jeffgiacomel6229
    @jeffgiacomel6229 2 года назад +13

    Regarding HK
    P7, P7M8,
    USP
    I had friends who were on Military Rifle and Pistol Teams.
    I had them shoot some stuff.
    Interms of Accuracy and Precision the HK P7 series are absolutely phenomenal. The USP was good but the fixed barrel in the P7 was unbelievable. It is not meant to run multiple mags as it does get hot. But for personal carry, target accuracy and coolness.... they are impressive.

  • @zachaument
    @zachaument 2 года назад +41

    Everything you said about 1911s is how modern shooters think about the Glock.

    • @drinkinouttacups2665
      @drinkinouttacups2665 2 года назад +3

      @@imacomputer101 memories of the scorching summer of 1992 kevin nash

    • @the_inquisitive_inquisitor
      @the_inquisitive_inquisitor 2 года назад

      @@imacomputer101 I carry a Sig p365 or a S&W M66 depending on if it's jacket weather.

  • @Knarf2285
    @Knarf2285 2 года назад +15

    Of all the guns that I own, the one that I will NEVER part with is my 6" S&W Model 29 Classic Hunter. Crowned barrel, worked trigger, ported, instant adjustable Hunting front sight, and an absolute BLAST to shoot.

  • @ElsinoreRacer
    @ElsinoreRacer 2 года назад +67

    The thing about the 1911 that no one ever mentions but locks it for me is that came out in 1911. When it came out, probably more than half the adults of the time had learned to shoot with a muzzle-loader. The vast majority of modern guns were bolt action or revolvers, usually with some design element that is hard to believe ever made sense. And then there is the 1911, that obviously fell out of a time machine. Be honest: we all liked the 1911 as a kid, thought it looked cool and very modern, saw it in the movies, etc. Remember the day you found out WHY it is called a 1911 and it instantly gridlocked you? Well, for me, that is why the 1911 can not ever be over-rated. It IS the rating system.

    • @YourMomsHouseLikeJody
      @YourMomsHouseLikeJody 2 года назад +12

      thats a really solid point. it was never overrated, just outdated by modern standards.

    • @edallen5711
      @edallen5711 2 года назад +6

      If you get a cheap or poorly built (Kimber Custom II) 1911, then yes, it is overrated. However, if you get a solid, well built, well machined 1911 (Sig Sauer, Springfield), it is as reliable as the sun coming up in the East and setting in the West. I have several and have 1000s of rounds with zero failures (except for my 2 Kimber Custom IIs). I'll admit, my Glock 17 and 26 are reliable as well, but they don't handle as well as the 1911s. If you are going to polymer framed guns, than My Sig P320 and XD's are just as reliable and more comfortable shooter than my Glocks. I would put my XD or Sig up against a Glock any day. If Glock is Perfection, than XD and Sig are Perfection made better.

    • @GeorgiaRidgerunner
      @GeorgiaRidgerunner 2 года назад +1

      The reason i dont own a 1911 is because it isnt left hand friendly even over a hundred years later
      Ill have two if there ever is a lefthanded model available

    • @timthorson52
      @timthorson52 2 года назад

      It was a great gun in 1911, but heavily upgraded by the mid 1920s, with few major changes after that, aside from mostly accessories. The C96 was the revolutionary semi auto weapon, coming in and getting mass produced.

    • @Crowbrother7
      @Crowbrother7 2 года назад

      Very well said!

  • @BrowncoatProductions
    @BrowncoatProductions 2 года назад +20

    I love the 1911, the K98, and the M14, but for the history of them. They were leading edge in their time, but they have been outdone by modern technology. I see it similar to owning a classic car. Newer cars have better economy, better options, but some old cars are still cool.

    • @33Luger
      @33Luger 2 года назад +4

      I still use a M1A for Elk hunting. I don't believe it is overrated. Most new gun guys barely know anything about the rifle.

    • @spearthumb68
      @spearthumb68 2 года назад +9

      @@33Luger Most gun guys are basing their opinion of the rifle on the way the M14 choked all over itself in the InRangeTV and Garand Thumb mud, sand and ice tests. Or as it's better known, empirical evidence.

    • @GaMeRfReAkLIVE
      @GaMeRfReAkLIVE 2 года назад +3

      The m14 was by no means leading tech. They shoved a magazine onto a garand, and the other country had basically done it a year befkre we did

    • @33Luger
      @33Luger 2 года назад +2

      I prefer the AR-10 to the M1A, a little more modern and easier to scope. But I don't think the M1A is bad.

    • @immikeurnot
      @immikeurnot 2 года назад +3

      M14 wasn't leading edge of its time. It was a slightly updated M1 Garand in an era of the FAL, G3 and other rifles that are not only objectively more advanced, but superior in every way.

  • @ChristopherLorine
    @ChristopherLorine Год назад +8

    I really like your channel and watch almost every video. I have a customized, acuratized, M1A with national match hardware and a customized adjustable stock. I also have a custom built bolt action precision rifle in the same .308. Both firearms shoot sub MOA, coming in at .75 MOA. At a recent outing with my nephew where we were shooting steel at 250M, 350M and 500M, I was able to hit targets of various diminishing sizes faster with the M1A without a miss than the bolt action. If I had to have overwatch, I would choose the M1A still. Opinions are like assholes, they all stink. You now have mine.

    • @seadog686
      @seadog686 Год назад

      You almost had it right: "Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one, and everybody thinks everyone else's stink."

    • @ChristopherLorine
      @ChristopherLorine Год назад +1

      @@seadog686 Actually, I mixed the metaphore intentionally. Nut thanks for reading it.

  • @ezekielherrera4070
    @ezekielherrera4070 2 года назад +7

    Lmao love the backwards round in the hk mag. First and only gun crush is a p30l and maybe I should treat it like a don't meet your heros situation

  • @stanthebamafan
    @stanthebamafan 2 года назад +4

    It’s fitting that the most overrated guns video started with a Glock ad. I think glocks are overrated but not because they’re bad guns. I’ve owned 2 glocks before. The issue with them is that most glock fanboys think glocks are uniquely reliable and nothing will ever compare. The reality is that these days there are at least 5 other companies that make guns that are equally as reliable and have more features, for the same price or significantly less. Glock isn’t in a league of its own anymore. This isn’t 1999.

    • @33Luger
      @33Luger 2 года назад

      Very fair. Glocks are the Toyota Corolla of pistols. Dependable and boring.

  • @richkeylor787
    @richkeylor787 2 года назад +7

    When I appendix carry, not only do I not chamber a round, the top round in the magazine is loaded backwards to prevent a negligent discharge in the close vicinity of my twig and berries.

  • @davesgunchannel
    @davesgunchannel 2 года назад +3

    I agree that 1911 are not the best choice. However, my first gun was a Kimber Pro Carry II (ok, second gun after the used Astra Constable II I bought in 1989 proved to be a paperweight) and I still carry it, train with it and it just works. I have had other 1911s that suck.

  • @bruce_flash
    @bruce_flash 2 года назад +68

    I picked up an HK-VP9 last year, and it's fantastic! The trigger is smooth, the paddle works great for either hand shooter, and it's got great accuracy.

    • @thisismagacountry1318
      @thisismagacountry1318 2 года назад +1

      Did you try the VP40?

    • @bruce_flash
      @bruce_flash 2 года назад +1

      @@thisismagacountry1318 Never tried the 40. My wife has a Glock 43, so we wanted to keep same ammo for economic and fun shooting. The HK's were hard to find as it was at the time.

    • @gdelan1
      @gdelan1 2 года назад +7

      I have the VP9 as well, love it

    • @richardjr1972
      @richardjr1972 2 года назад +3

      Walther PPQ M2 (IMO) Has a better trigger, better ergo, accuracy the same, and is $300 to $400 less than VP9. I have shot both extensively at the range before I made my purchase, and could afford easily to purchase either, frankly felt the Walther PPQ M2 was the better gun.

    • @bruce_flash
      @bruce_flash 2 года назад +2

      @@richardjr1972 I found both the triggers were excellent. The HK feels better quality, much more comfortable, and the Walther paddle drop feels somewhat cheap. I would give the stock sights nod to Walther, but I'm going to put optics on my HK, so not to worried about it.
      Both solid for striker fired pistols, but I just feel the comfort and quality stood out with HK over Walther. Price wasn't an issue for me.

  • @Btk4813
    @Btk4813 2 года назад +10

    James amd Alex, the two guys that convinced me to subscribe to TFB. Would love to hear what Alex thinks about some of the new products on the market. Stop spinning wrenches for a second Alex and come back a do a quick video.

  • @steel8231
    @steel8231 2 года назад +15

    2011 fixes a few of the 1911s issues but are expensive as hell. They also come in 10mm.

  • @patricklocke3487
    @patricklocke3487 Год назад +2

    The Colt 1911 may be old and any other label you may want to put on it. I carried one as a side arm in Nam and I own two of them. Ya, they are heavy and only carry a few rounds but you hit someone with that and they go down no question about it. I like my G48, PPK/s (in 22LR & .380), even the 38spl is great, but my 1911s bring back memories and that's priceless. Oh, by the way Grandpa with his m14 in his Bel Air in, when? 1953! OK on that one!

  • @billskinny7639
    @billskinny7639 2 года назад +11

    Love the backward cartridges for the USP mag 😂
    What a throwback

    • @chrismathes1273
      @chrismathes1273 2 года назад +3

      Yeah, that was a nice touch. Made me literally laugh out loud.

  • @Peter-der-gute-vegane-Hirte
    @Peter-der-gute-vegane-Hirte 2 года назад +7

    Hahaha😄 the "loaded" H&K mag... As in the H&K company advertisement.

  • @WALTERBROADDUS
    @WALTERBROADDUS 2 года назад +13

    That was a list I actually can agree with. But.....🤷🏽‍♂️ The Walther PPK is missing.

    • @MikeNepo
      @MikeNepo 2 года назад +1

      Even in the era, it was outperformed. I would take a Femaru 37m, Beretta 1935 or Mauser HSc over a PP/PPK any day of the week.

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 2 года назад +2

      @@MikeNepo yeah, it's another one of those guns that still just riding on reputation. Keeps Walther in business though.

  • @francostacy7675
    @francostacy7675 2 года назад

    He shouldn’t make fun of you for your small hands, instead he should be making fun of you for your short shorts lol

  • @seanricker9817
    @seanricker9817 2 года назад +4

    "it feel like squeezing a condom full of broken glass." cannot say I've ever heard a trigger described in that fashion, but in a strange way, it makes sense. keep doing your thing JR!

  • @dellis35
    @dellis35 2 года назад +4

    Mannn… I am over here dying 😂😂😂… love this video. As always your videos are the best. Appreciate the great work Sir.

  • @BlueRidgeCritter
    @BlueRidgeCritter 2 года назад +7

    “It’s well made in the way that $23 tweezers made in Germany are well made - it’s the best version of something that didn’t need to be great.” I gotta remember that one…

  • @GeezerWheels
    @GeezerWheels Год назад

    I know this is a year old, and I know that "stock photos" are simply part of most RUclips channels... no problem there, but did anyone else notice that the HK USP magazine laying on the table had the nickel-plated round inserted backward in the magazine? Hilarious! Keep on making these informative vids! Thanks.

  • @PNW_Sportbike_Life
    @PNW_Sportbike_Life 2 года назад +19

    Look man, I’ve got an H&K USP expert and I love the thing! It’s hugely impractical, has a monstrous grip, has no Pic rail for a light, it pinches the web of my hand every time I put a mag in it, came with a blacked-out front sight…the pros? Many. Trigger is pretty awesome, softest recoil impulse in a 9mm I’ve ever experienced, 5.2” barrel, INSANELY accurate, and 100% bomb-proof! They just have a certain, something.

    • @YourMomsHouseLikeJody
      @YourMomsHouseLikeJody 2 года назад +2

      he didnt say they were bad, just overpriced. you can get the same exact performance out of a 500 dollar pistol.

    • @stinkmeaner3016
      @stinkmeaner3016 2 года назад

      Ah yes, the HK bug bit you too!

    • @PNW_Sportbike_Life
      @PNW_Sportbike_Life 2 года назад +2

      @@YourMomsHouseLikeJody no you cannot. You obviously don’t own any. This is single most accurate pistol I’ve ever shot; more accurate than my Q5 SF

    • @YourMomsHouseLikeJody
      @YourMomsHouseLikeJody 2 года назад +3

      @@PNW_Sportbike_Life he owns one and begs to differ so your point is invalid.

    • @PNW_Sportbike_Life
      @PNW_Sportbike_Life 2 года назад +3

      @@YourMomsHouseLikeJody All I'm saying is that the build quality, fit and finish, accuracy and dependability is what sets H&K apart. Like them or not, my points are actually fairly valid.

  • @menegene4129
    @menegene4129 2 года назад +5

    Opening ad made me think Glock was the first entry 😂
    Also, did you leave the round in the USP Mag backwards on purpose?

    • @savoie72
      @savoie72 2 года назад +1

      Yes, it is a meme in the HK community based on an HK Catalog cover photo for the 2004 SHOT show in which the photographer erroneously had a round loaded backwards in the magazine. The catalog was sent directly from the printer, and no one caught the error until the catalogs were already being distributed.

    • @menegene4129
      @menegene4129 2 года назад

      @@savoie72 didn't know that, don't read too many gun mags unless they're lying around work and things are slow.

  • @errolwilcox747
    @errolwilcox747 Год назад

    "The aerodynamics of Grimace trying to beat a groundball to first base." Holy shit 😂

  • @garykee9117
    @garykee9117 2 года назад +4

    Pats fans arent as trash as the falcons second half performance in superbowl...

  • @lorenhughes5005
    @lorenhughes5005 2 года назад +24

    The allure of .45 for me is it is subsonic while doing the same damage as 9mm. That is it. 9mm is amazing if you're not worried about suppression and even then is pretty damn good.

    • @user-nb8yt2il2r
      @user-nb8yt2il2r 2 года назад

      Orrrrr, you could shoot 147 gr 9mm subsonic that does as much damage as 45 while holding 2x the ammo at half the price

    • @lorenhughes5005
      @lorenhughes5005 2 года назад +1

      @@user-nb8yt2il2r it doesn't do as much damage at subsonic speeds. It does it at higher speeds. I'll stick with my 45 ACP and 45 super.

  • @anthonylucero2305
    @anthonylucero2305 2 года назад +35

    Regarding the M1A, the perfect weight/velocity ratio would be the 18' Scout Squad version. It has all the things that makes the M1A great, without the cons.

    • @ReubenOaks84
      @ReubenOaks84 2 года назад +12

      Didn't realize they made an 18 feet version. Lol

    • @anthonylucero2305
      @anthonylucero2305 2 года назад +3

      @@ReubenOaks84 Damn spell check, gotta love it 😅

    • @coffeeaddict643
      @coffeeaddict643 2 года назад +4

      18 feet gets you all the velocity!!!

    • @spencerb891
      @spencerb891 2 года назад

      I have a scout squad and love it. Agree it is the best version.

  • @jameskilpatrick7790
    @jameskilpatrick7790 2 года назад +4

    I always get a laugh from these videos, but this one is even funnier than most of them. Great content from TFB. Thanks!

  • @kimber3865
    @kimber3865 2 года назад +9

    I like how the ammunition is loaded in backwards in the magazine at 17:57

  • @beardly0121
    @beardly0121 2 года назад +16

    Interesting list. Regarding the G19--I've never once caught brass in the face from any of the ones I've shot ranging from Gen 2 to Gen 5. But I'm sure someone has so, alright. I have also found it extremely easy to conceal with an appendix holster and I'm not a big guy by any means. I bought a Gen 5 recently(first G19 I've ever actually owned myself) and its a great shooter and I carry it and conceal it even in shorts although I don't wear short shorts like James so I can't vouch for the concealability while exposing a little leg. But for me its fine.
    Now, if I was gonna list a Glock as being overrated it'd be the G43x. I really, really don't like that gun. I own one and will probably sell it because its just awful. I'm actually pretty good at shooting pistols. I shoot Sigs, M&Ps, and Glocks routinely but the G43x for whatever reason is just very, very hard for me to shoot. Perhaps the grip is too small or perhaps I just suck but I don't like the gun.

    • @jonathanyoung7763
      @jonathanyoung7763 2 года назад +1

      It’s interesting you mention the g43x is hard to shoot- when I bought my first one it was super hard for me too, but I kept at it til now I shoot it just as well as all my other Glocks. Idk why it was hard at first, really weird.

    • @danemaui8259
      @danemaui8259 2 года назад +1

      The 43x was the first pistol ever purchased. I had to put roughly 1,500 rounds through it before I became a dead eye with it. I had to change the sights, and I added a MAG well widener which unexpectedly made the grip perfect on it. Your hand basically squeezes between it and the top of the gun. You really have to master your grip on the gun. I shoot just as well with it as I do my full size Glock 21 and also my Glock 40 with a red dot. Practice makes perfect. Or it could just be the shape of your hand. Everybody's hand is different, also appendix carry for some people is just too uncomfortable, I can't stand it myself. I concealed carry with the 43x with a belt holster on my back right. It be nice and compact, perfect for cold or fair weather. I have to comment about the shorts though. If it's the hot season, why on God's green earth do people not carry a pocket gun? Anybody can try and talk accuracy or capacity, but I have a 380 auto pocket gun that I can hit inside the first two rings of a center Mass Target, all of the rounds in a magazine, rapid fire in it. Capacity is 10 and 12. How can anybody conceal anything when they have their shirt off and it's not a pocket gun? Ruger LCP Max 380 auto, it's that simple. Unless you never plan on taking your shirt off in the summertime anywhere? Just food for thought.

    • @beardly0121
      @beardly0121 2 года назад

      @@danemaui8259 well, I basically consider my 43x a pocket gun. But yes, you're right. When my technique is perfect with the 43x then my shots are also excellent. But it requires a lot more focus than my G19(which, well, it's got an rmr anyway so that's almost like a cheat code) or my iron sight G17. For me the grip is pretty comfy. I think the issue is the incredibly short sight radius. I still haven't changed out the sights on the 43x so maybe I should try that and some talon grips like all my other Glocks.
      But ultimately it's just much harder than the G19 for me. Yes I do have an rmr on the G19 but even with iron sights I find it significantly easier to shoot.
      Also about the shirt thing--yeah, I don't find myself taking my shirt off in public and when I'm not in public I don't give a single shit about concealment. Everyone who knows me knows I'm always carrying a pistol and they don't care and are of a similar mind.

    • @beardly0121
      @beardly0121 2 года назад

      @@jonathanyoung7763 I think it's the short sight radius combined with the thin grip (which is quite comfortable but it does make it easier for the gun to sorta twist in your hand without a 100% perfect grip technique).

    • @danemaui8259
      @danemaui8259 2 года назад

      @@beardly0121 gotcha

  • @John_Redcorn_
    @John_Redcorn_ 2 года назад +4

    Idk how the Mosin Nagant wasnt on here. The amount of fudd lore surrounding that hunk of chiseled dog shit is unbelievable. Each one is however a unicorn, i guess: no two are exactly alike (or even remotely close).

  • @deplorabledave1048
    @deplorabledave1048 Год назад +4

    I own two G-19's. However, I feel that the G-17 and the G-34 are much better duty guns. My G-42 is a much better conceal carry gun in sticky, hot South Florida.

    • @smartfella7914
      @smartfella7914 Год назад

      Yeah ive heard great things about the 17 from former police who carried them, one i talked to sayid he still leaves it in his nightstand years later

  • @kanaka118446
    @kanaka118446 2 года назад +8

    18:00 again with the backwards cartridges in the mag lmao. I love that as a community, we all silently agreed to never let that joke die.
    God bless you TFB

  • @GOxHAM
    @GOxHAM 2 года назад +11

    LOL at all the amazing jokes. The ending bit was absolutely hilarious and well said. Keep it up James and TFBTV

    • @KhaosTy
      @KhaosTy 2 года назад

      Whoever wrote the post about the Model 29/Kar 98 is a comedic genius.