@@cthulhuwillruleall3799the guns dint become real the enemy tinks the guns are real and the fake guns shot real bulets The guns never become real only the shots apers of inside the gun
Another Fun Fact about cut melee characters: Hideo Kojima wanted MGS1 Solid Snake to be added to Melee, but he wasn't able to make it in because the game was already far into development and they were running out of time.
@@ShockwaveFPSStudios "Nintendo's nature" hasn't been the focal point of the series since brawl introduced third party characters. Modern Smash is meant to be a video game museum and a love letter to the icons of gaming. And if Snake's inclusion is already pushing it, Steve is way worse.
@@ca4360Hate to break it to ya, but most third party characters fits right into Smash Bros or makes sense to be included in the series. Mega Man & the Belmonts have been associated with Nintendo for half a decade, Sonic’s not only Mario’s biggest rival from the 90s but most Sonic games became almost exclusively available on Nintendo Consoles… Minecraft’s on every platform and as such had Mario skins in it’s Switch port… even Bayonetta, who’s also a third party character considering she’s owned by SEGA, had her sequels be exclusives to Nintendo consoles. But what does Snake have when it comes Nintendo’s legacy and status… a shady port & a broken remake? Snake Eater on the 3DS? Plus, he’s too realistic & gritty for Nintendo’s anime & cartoony platform fighter. Kazuya might also be realistic & gritty, but considering Namco developed the last two Smash Bros games, I can give Kazuya a pass. Heck I can give Joker & Sora a pass since SEGA owns Atlus who made Persona 5, and Kingdom Hearts has a history of appearing on Nintendo Handhelds, so he counts. Snake just doesn’t, especially when ports don’t really count as being available in a game.
He had a smash hit game on earlier Nintendo consoles, the GameCube if I remember correctly, called Goldeneye 007 that gameplay wise, still holds up alright today. That game is the reason he was in the running in the first place.
@@mrhellvictorCastlevania and SMT were novels?? Also, even if that's the case, those franchise are more associated with videogame nowadays anyways I mean, Lucario is technically an anime character since he debuted in the Lucario movie
Nintendo did have the video game rights to James Bond, but it was likely the fact that EA acquired the license to 007 that caused his inclusion in Melee to be scrapped.
Fun fact: sonic was intended to be in melee, but because of time issues, it got scrapped until brawl And people said that tails was also intended but that is just a hoax
Well, they were specifically thinking of him because of the success of Goldeneye as well. Has there not been a game, it's tough to say if the thought process would be there.
James Bond being put in as the first character not originally from a video game franchise would be amazing. Never gonna happen now but I’d buy the dlc if it did
That explains why the motion sensor bomb looks just like the one from golden eye and in melees trophy details it said it was from the game TOP SECRET. Pretty sneaky nintendo
Joker's guns HAVE to be realistic. They work because in his verse, his powers are based on how people observe what they are being hit with. The more realistic, the more damage.
Technically joker gun is airsoft Where he fights (the metaverse) usually thought can become reality, so if a gun looks real and can shoot then in your head if you don’t know it’s airsoft you’d think it’d fire real bullets, and so because thought becomes reality, they do.
Banjo was actually being added like the development for him WAS planned but then they held off because of copyright and every since smash 64 sakurai tried adding banjo, k rool and dedede every game
Honestly, it wouldn't really make sense considering he's just a movie character, and it's supposed to be a celebration of video games. There's a reason why we don't have Goku despite all of his games.
are you saying was James Bond a video game character first before a movie character? That would be no, there are just different actors for James Bond, the video games had Pierce Brosnan as James Bond then
Looking at that top 10 list, 8 out of 10 of those characters made it into Smash. Technicality with Toad since he's part of the moveset for Peach and Daisy
To argue on Jokers case, its not a real gun, people just think it is a real gun therefor it acts like a real gun. Bayonetta on the other hand? Thats a real gun. 4 real guns.
I heard he wasn’t added because there also would have been complications with the actor who played Bond at the time since the character would have been in his likeness
Goldeneye is still referenced within the series by the items Motion Sensor Bomb and Invisibility Cloak, the latter only appearing in Melee. Both have their source listed as ‘TOP SECRET’ rather than Goldeneye 007 for their trophies.
Funny enough Jokers Neutral Special is a replica of a handgun, but since it's smash and the amiibos are toys, Like the metaverse everyone that sees the gun will think it's real snd will function as one
"and showing realistic guns, which doesn't seem to be a problem anymore" proceeds to show Joker. Meanwhile Snake successfully sneaks past everyone with enough firepower and explosives to take down an American Gundam 😂
For his neutral special, James Bond busts a cap in a bitch. I feel we missed out. We missed out on Bond becoming a mainstay in the series, then someone modding Austin Powers over him in Ultimate.
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For his neutral special-
-he wields GUN
For his up special-
@@Im_a_cool_one_48
HE uhhh. takes a parachute??? Idk I don't watch James bond
For his side spesial-
@@Satoru_gojo_always_winshe wilds a gun
Tbf, joker uses model guns that look realistic. But also bayonetta is hella adult themed outside guns. 😂
I mean even in lore for persona the guns become real while in the metaverse and that’s the whole reason they’re able to shoot
Fun fact: Bayonettas clothes are also made of her hair
@@tiposauce6417and she attacks with her hair, I think she strips a lot more in her games when she attacks than in smash
Do they forget that snake has guns Snake you that I f****** rocket launcher people Snake use of all kinds of weapons
@@cthulhuwillruleall3799the guns dint become real the enemy tinks the guns are real and the fake guns shot real bulets
The guns never become real only the shots apers of inside the gun
The remote mine from 007 is still in the game
I thought I was tripping out when I noticed this detail. I'm glad someone can confirm.
@@TJBluu I liked the item and wanted it to return but then I saw someone point it out on yt, I was ecstatic when I found it was true
The remote mine went through a redesign to make it more part of the smash bros. Series than relaying on the James band source material.
TOP SECRET
Those dang proximity mines!
In Joker’s Case it technically isn’t even a real gun. Snake however uses actual military-grade weaponry
Yeah but it’s mostly rocket launchers and not really guns so sakurai gave it the pass
@@drluigi8563yet he allowed Bayonetta who uses proper pistols
@@keeganlafferty1395 biggest argument I could give is the guns look weird and don’t look like actual guns
@@drluigi8563 thought you would've retorted "magic guns"
@@keeganlafferty1395 magic guns
Ironic that Nintendo was scared of being sued
*scared
@@kazarisato5607 ok
*of
@@DrDoritosRMLG am I not allowed to have typos?
Sued.*
The true story is the disrespect of toad
Another Fun Fact about cut melee characters: Hideo Kojima wanted MGS1 Solid Snake to be added to Melee, but he wasn't able to make it in because the game was already far into development and they were running out of time.
I am still glad to see snake in smash
Cool but that's a PS1 game and this is pre third party fighters so I think even if he came up soon it would be weird or something
Honestly, I wish Sakurai didn’t include Snake in Smash Bros. He just doesn’t fit Nintendo’s nature that the Smash Bros games carries.
@@ShockwaveFPSStudios "Nintendo's nature" hasn't been the focal point of the series since brawl introduced third party characters. Modern Smash is meant to be a video game museum and a love letter to the icons of gaming. And if Snake's inclusion is already pushing it, Steve is way worse.
@@ca4360Hate to break it to ya, but most third party characters fits right into Smash Bros or makes sense to be included in the series. Mega Man & the Belmonts have been associated with Nintendo for half a decade, Sonic’s not only Mario’s biggest rival from the 90s but most Sonic games became almost exclusively available on Nintendo Consoles… Minecraft’s on every platform and as such had Mario skins in it’s Switch port… even Bayonetta, who’s also a third party character considering she’s owned by SEGA, had her sequels be exclusives to Nintendo consoles.
But what does Snake have when it comes Nintendo’s legacy and status… a shady port & a broken remake? Snake Eater on the 3DS? Plus, he’s too realistic & gritty for Nintendo’s anime & cartoony platform fighter. Kazuya might also be realistic & gritty, but considering Namco developed the last two Smash Bros games, I can give Kazuya a pass. Heck I can give Joker & Sora a pass since SEGA owns Atlus who made Persona 5, and Kingdom Hearts has a history of appearing on Nintendo Handhelds, so he counts. Snake just doesn’t, especially when ports don’t really count as being available in a game.
Man I would’ve loved it if they added James Bond 😭😭
They did, its Snake 😂
@@unfortunaterabbit5900no pp7 tho
smash 6
Same
Given how complicated the rights in the movies are, if James Bond was in melee, it would never be re-released
It still not😊
Nintendo of all things was scared of copyright?!?! That's fucking hilarious
It's old Nintendo. They where reasonable people.
Probably because of the DK vs King Kong lawsuits
@@Henrex2000 True! Universal is entirely at fault for the monsterous Nintendo we have today
Why is it hillarious. It's not like they violated a copy right.
@@blowc1612 because Nintendo will copyright anyone anything that remotely resembles their games and shit
In 2035, James Bond will become Public Domain.
James Bond?! I thought he was a movie character first
Since it was so early in smash’s history I don’t think the “video game characters only” thing was really established yet
He had a smash hit game on earlier Nintendo consoles, the GameCube if I remember correctly, called Goldeneye 007 that gameplay wise, still holds up alright today. That game is the reason he was in the running in the first place.
Technically, he debuted in a novel
@@cuttsthecat6331 so did Dracula and the Megami Tensei series and they did appeared in Ultimate
@@mrhellvictorCastlevania and SMT were novels??
Also, even if that's the case, those franchise are more associated with videogame nowadays anyways
I mean, Lucario is technically an anime character since he debuted in the Lucario movie
Nintendo being scared of Copyright? Thats crazy
They deserve to be sued
@@michaelb1354no they do not 😂
The irony
@@KenOverLone yes they do fing 30$ for a game
Nintendo did have the video game rights to James Bond, but it was likely the fact that EA acquired the license to 007 that caused his inclusion in Melee to be scrapped.
Fun fact: sonic was intended to be in melee, but because of time issues, it got scrapped until brawl
And people said that tails was also intended but that is just a hoax
Toad deserves to be in the next Smash Bros
Poor Waluigi...
He already is in Smash
The p3 sound is music to my ears
real
"Whats your main?"
"Bond, James Bond."
okay but now I wanna see toad in smash. Imagine him pulling his mushroom hat off to chuck it at people
It's really cursed seeing Toad with legs.
For real tho, James bond would be the hardest dlc ever made if they make the alt skins different bonds.
That could have very much opened up to Smash having not only just game characters, that’s insane to think about
Well, they were specifically thinking of him because of the success of Goldeneye as well. Has there not been a game, it's tough to say if the thought process would be there.
Bro if toad was in smash i would play as it all the time even if it's bad (plus toad is my fav mario character that's why)
Play Crusade for that I guess
James Bond being put in as the first character not originally from a video game franchise would be amazing. Never gonna happen now but I’d buy the dlc if it did
Toad not being in smash is crazy, especially being a most wanted character
That is NOT Jimothy Bond.
💀
That explains why the motion sensor bomb looks just like the one from golden eye and in melees trophy details it said it was from the game TOP SECRET. Pretty sneaky nintendo
It's crazy how it took banjo 3 full games + some DLC for the 4th to get in after always being a top 10 requested character
Joker's guns HAVE to be realistic. They work because in his verse, his powers are based on how people observe what they are being hit with. The more realistic, the more damage.
The idea of voting for Bowser on a fighter ballot is crazy, what wild and distant times those must have been for Smash fans to desire Bowser
Quick note: reminder that joker's guns are airsoft.
Snake however
Technically joker gun is airsoft
Where he fights (the metaverse) usually thought can become reality, so if a gun looks real and can shoot then in your head if you don’t know it’s airsoft you’d think it’d fire real bullets, and so because thought becomes reality, they do.
Persona 3 sounds effects goes wild
i can confirm as persona fan
More sound effects than a jhonny test episode
when i saw 2001... oh boy.
Imagine if we got James Bond V Snake
I can imagine oddjob being a trophy character.
I love how Goku wasn't the first Non-Video Game Character to be asked to be in Smash
Banjo was actually being added like the development for him WAS planned but then they held off because of copyright and every since smash 64 sakurai tried adding banjo, k rool and dedede every game
Nintendo's tragic copywrite back story
Honestly, it wouldn't really make sense considering he's just a movie character, and it's supposed to be a celebration of video games.
There's a reason why we don't have Goku despite all of his games.
I don’t think they have the “only video games character” rule so early in the franchise
Petition to add James Bond to smash Bros on the Switch 2
When he showed the poll sign up, i thought those were the options, and i was like "damn, i would've voted for "Your Gender" thats sick"
"Toad With Legs can't hurt you. He's not real."
Toad With Legs:
James Bond for Smash 6!
“The only thing stronger than Godzilla is Japanese copyright lawyers”-Grouse or heavenly, 2022
cant belve they put th maser chif in da soda
Those sound effects get me every tome
“We found gold but in return we lost diamonds” also f banjo
“It’s not who you think!” and then it proceeds to be exactly who I think
Banjo in melee would have been sick
James Bond in Melee would have been pretty sick ngl.
Wait, was James Bond a video game character first?
are you saying was James Bond a video game character first before a movie character? That would be no, there are just different actors for James Bond, the video games had Pierce Brosnan as James Bond then
@@TheRandCrewsgolden eye 007
No, this guy is off his rocker
James Bond started with Sean Connery in 1962 so wayy before this game even had a concept.
James Bond was actually from a series of books and the movies were based off of them
For a second my dumbass thought it was gonna be kiryu kazuma from Yakuza somehow
i kinda wish it was kazuma lowkey
This was exactly who I expected
Man, imagine what kind of precedent this would’ve set
James Bond above Banjo is insane 😂 imagine the Smash we’d have if this happened
"It's not who you think"
Me randomly: It's James Bond
*scrolls past*
That toad has legs... THAT TOAD HAS LEGS
In Smash 64, James Bond was planned but scrapped for legal issues
Looking at that top 10 list, 8 out of 10 of those characters made it into Smash. Technicality with Toad since he's part of the moveset for Peach and Daisy
Wouldve loved to have seen how Bond reacted to Pyra and Mythra
Both Sonic and Tails Were Planned for Melee Too But Their Tag Team Gimmick Was Given To Ice Climbers
“smash boogers”💀💀💀
"for England James?"
James- "no for Smash"
To argue on Jokers case, its not a real gun, people just think it is a real gun therefor it acts like a real gun.
Bayonetta on the other hand? Thats a real gun. 4 real guns.
"Adult matters"
23 years later, we currently have Solid Snake, Bayonetta and Joker in smash
Snake use Rocket Launchers, Joker’s pistols are fake, and Bayonetta pistols are MAGIC, so the Adult Matters still applying i guess
Sonic was originally gonna be in Melee but they ran out of time to design the character so he was saved for brawl.
The remote mine from Goldeneye is in Melee but only in the US and PAL versions. Japan used the one from Perfect Dark.
I heard he wasn’t added because there also would have been complications with the actor who played Bond at the time since the character would have been in his likeness
It's EXACTLY who I thought
Goldeneye is still referenced within the series by the items Motion Sensor Bomb and Invisibility Cloak, the latter only appearing in Melee. Both have their source listed as ‘TOP SECRET’ rather than Goldeneye 007 for their trophies.
Lugia had a high spot iirc
If he made it in, that means anyone could've after that.
I think it makes sense here, sakurai has a better understanding of what works
Imagine you fight him and he pulls out a minigun. Mario and his punches would stand no chance
Imagine the Everyone Is Here trailer with James Bond having a section... lol
That means we would have had the "for his neutral special he wield a gun" earlier
Mate Used Multiple Shin Megami Tensei Persona 3 UI Sound Effects, That Shit Was Crazy.
If James Bond was added we've could have gotten Goku and Shrek....
The top 9 were
Bowser
Peach
Wario
King Dedede
Ganon(dorf)
Mewtwo / James Bond (tie)
Toad
Mew
Marth
I’m a big fan of banjo Kazooie, bro I wish they would add the enemies in like the other characters
I wonder what possible object James Bound could wield during his neutral special.
And then they would add Snake who uses real life military grade weapons
For his neutral special he wields a gun
*Insert Nintendo characters screaming in fear as joker shoots them*
0:22 Sora? Not happening. Disney would not allow it. LOL.
Uhhh go check smash ultimate and tell me who you see 💀
It happened 3 games later
@@habsfan3920 I know
Funny enough Jokers Neutral Special is a replica of a handgun, but since it's smash and the amiibos are toys, Like the metaverse everyone that sees the gun will think it's real snd will function as one
I actually knew James Bond was considered. I loved the idea.
Captain falcon has literally had a gun on him since 64
fun fact: peach’s umbrella handle is made of a gun texture stretched out
He considered adding doremon in the n64 smash game so technically he's the first
So that's why the remote mine looked straight out of Goldeneye
If James Bond made it in. The rule only video game characters would be broken. That could mean Goku.
Sonic was on the list too…he was suppose to be in Melee but was scrapped for Brawl
"and showing realistic guns, which doesn't seem to be a problem anymore" proceeds to show Joker.
Meanwhile Snake successfully sneaks past everyone with enough firepower and explosives to take down an American Gundam 😂
my dumb ass thought he was roland even tho roland doesnt even exits in that time
it's definitely Roland from library of ruina
For his neutral special, James Bond busts a cap in a bitch.
I feel we missed out. We missed out on Bond becoming a mainstay in the series, then someone modding Austin Powers over him in Ultimate.
Imagine the universe where they did it. We could've gotten James Bond even in Ultimate
Bond being in the first game would have completely changed the history of Smash forever, allowing the possibility of non video game characters
nintendo: *afraid of other company's copyright*
also nintendo: *sues people for naming their kid mario*