BLACK PANTHER 2 (Spoiler Review) Disney Chose WRONG Again
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Black Panther 2: Wakanda Forever is what happens when you turn a three hour therapy session into a movie. Should they have recast Black Panther? Was passing the torch the right choice? Join us as we dig into these questions!
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I still say this movie should’ve been delayed indefinitely, give people more time to grieve Chadwick, wait till more people are open to a recast then continue making the movie, only with T’Challa in it.
He was greatly missed in this film. Terrible situation but life goes on and so do these films. They definitely should have waited and recast. Honor Chadwick and continue forward.
Tchalla was dead for 5 years after Infinity War so that would have been perfect to honor Chadwick then and have a post credit scene when Tchalla gets blipped back then he’s off to endgame. They honored Chadwick but Tchalla is still alive and they can recast him through the multiverse
Good take fellas. I was waiting to hear you call out how opportunistic marvel was using Chadwicks death to push the “M SHE U” and their politics. They really did not handle this with class. The way you do is by making a kick ass movie, not using his death for a political message!
We couldn't have said it better, man.
If Black Panther 3 doesn’t have T’Challa in it, I’m DONE with the Black Panther franchise.
If Biden starts a war with Russia we won't be around to see it. 🤣
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This would have been a perfect time to intro. a black panther from another alernative reality. Being lost. Landing here. He'd take his mask off and go. What is going on? cue the out music
"She handled it like a female would....... she cried"🤣 #biggirlscry
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There is no doubt in my mind that Disney took the sad passing of Chadwick Boseman to as a golden opportunity gender swap the character. Every Marvel fan would have accepted a new actor in the role.
Disney is insisting on annoying fans with unnecessary gender and race swaps in the name of woke ideology. It's tedious film making intended to alienate male fans who usually pay to see these kinds of films, since we are somehow toxic and oppressive ogres, so these movies are no aimed at a female audience.
This is a bad strategy as girls are only going to stick around for so long after the male audiences realize that Marvel has become the "My Little Pony" of Comicbook universes and walk away.
I don't believe in Superhero movie fatigue, the problem is that DC and Marvel are generally producing low quality films with flashy special effects.
People stuck around for the original Bond films for 20 movies. They will do the same for Batman, Superman, Captain America and Ironman..So long as they keep the quality up.
It’s sadly not about quality anymore. It was such an exploitive way to move her into the role. It was probably headed that way already but not until movie 3 or 4 at the earliest. Timeline moved up. 👍🏻 Agenda is secure.
U right about that. I heard there was some foul play behind the scenes with how Marvel handled the passing of Chadwick Boseman. Apparently, Boseman and some of the Marvel execs, including Kevin Feige were having some disagreements over the script. And with that being said, Marvel & Disney’s quick decision to kill off T’Challa was strictly out of pettiness. They weren’t really tryna honor him! And that’s another thing I really can’t stand about this trashy ass movie.
"I don't believe in superhero movie fatigue"
You don't have to believe in it. It's the reality of all major genres. Westerns, Film Noirs, Science Fiction, Macho Action Movies. They ALL go through this. Once they oversaturate the market, and the good ideas run out, and the people with talent get pushed out by the money people... You get what we see here and now. Fatigue.
The audience is tired. I'm SICK of seeing wall-to-wall cape shit, Star Wars, and remakes. I want us to get back to the 80s and early 90s where we had a genuinely diverse cluster of movies out at all times.
I appreciate you guys for doing this review.. it's such a powerful conversation that needs to happen and I know Marvel has seen the division they have created from not doing what Hollywood has done since the beginning and that is recasting. Tchalla's importance to Black men and boys has to be talked about and pushing a black trope by having an illegitimate son is an even deeper conversation. Fictional comic book stories do not have to showcase real life trauma and tragedy.
T’Challa’s importance was sidelined so they could fast track their own agenda. It really is a bigger problem under the surface. Recasting would have hurt but ripping off that bandaid and keeping the character alive is important, for the reasons you said. The final scene with T’Challa’s son was tragic for so many reasons.
The bit where you both start cracking up is brilliant! 😂 You really are giving great real content. Keep it up!
Thanks, dude. Appreciate it!
I’m pretty late but yeah the movie (like the majority of the mcu in phase 4) didn’t sit well with me. People keep talking about passing down the torch and passing down the mantle but are forgetting about Christopher Reeves, Adam West, Heath Ledger and many other actors who passed away and was later on, recasted with an different actor. William Hurt who played Thunderbolt Ross passed away and the mcu is quickly getting a recast.
The amount of actors who played Superman, Batman, Joker and we even got a whole movie with 3 Spider-Men together! Actors who passed away playing these characters will be played by another actor in the Future. Even James Bond got recasted with completely different actors.
I know it’s to late to recast but still. They ignored the fact Chadwick’s family said they are Ok with recasting. Them believing somehow T’challa (a fictional character by the way) is the only character in pop culture that can never be recasted is just ridiculous. Especially with 60 years of that character’s stories being told in the comics. As for Namor, yeah he got pretty much race swapped and his character is completely different from the source material. All just for the sake of pushing more political agendas.
Overall, great take guys. I just hope someone in the future will get this characters away from Disney and Make Marvel Movie Great Again. Hopefully.
(P.S. that was not a Donald Trump pun)
If Disney wants BP3 to be something remotely resembling a success, then recasting T’Challa, actual T’Challa and not his b*st@rd son, is a must.
BP3 won’t have the death Chadwick Boseman for Disney to milk off, nor will it have the anticipation of millions curious to see how they deal with the replacement of a character fans have been longing to see for over 50 years.
Like it or not, with Shuri as the main focal point moving forward, this franchise will be lucky if it reaches the £500m mark again.
Shuri definitely can’t carry this series forward but that’s what they want. There are plenty of opportunities to bring T’Challa back in creative ways with all the multiverse plot lines popping up. They just need to wake up and realize the importance of the character over the actor. Thanks for watching!
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Personally, I think Disney/Marvel were rubbing their hands with glee at Chadwick’s passing, because now they can cast a woman in the role and nobody dare say a word against them
M'Baku should have been the new Black Panther. He was a challenger for the Throne in the first movie.
This passing of the torch from T'Challa to random bald chick was going to happen BEFORE Chad even died...at least that was the rumor. By the by, I never knew that if you mixed hispanics with vibranium, you get smurfs.
Don’t try to rationalize it.
Those rumours were cucked. Plus shuri was the black panther for a while in the comics. And you have a problem with hispanics, nice
The review of this film I've been dying to hear. Excellent takes fellas!
Appreciate the watch. Would have loved to know what the original script looked like before the big rewrites.
T’Challa would have lived and raised his Son, Toussaint with Nakia. If Chadwick had lived, they would kept him alive in the MCU but they really should’ve recasted him.
They should’ve recast, although they technically did with T’Challa’s son
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We agree. We definitely need more subs. The woke garbage is getting out of control. We just want to be entertained.
Hopefully the clown world will sort itself out and you will get the credit you deserve. Keep up the good work and I look forward to the next one
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They should call it Woman King 2....hahaha. They dropped the ball on this movie big time
We’re holding out for The Man Queen. That’s gotta be on a docket somewhere.
More like The Woman King on steroids 💯
You really make a great point about “fair & balanced”! Im so sick of being preached at by Hollywood. If they presented the question and than chose how they want to address it, that would be different. Marvel will fail, DC has a window!
Really curious to see what DC is going to do with the "great reset". Marvel, it seems, will continue down this path until they are on life support.
@@hardcutreviews I thought they were gonna crush it, with Cavill, Batlack & Keaton… but they seem like MAY drop the ball. Hopefully they take the lane that is being offered rather than following Disney off the cliff.
Looking forward to your “Rainbow Scales”! Keep it up👍
Btw… if you get a chance check out “Nerdrotic” or “MelonieMacGoBoom”. Similar shows, that speak the truth as well
@@bumpercarjoe6391 Love Nerdrotic. Will check out Melonie. Would have been cool to see what they would have done with Keaton and Cavill in the same universe. They need to get their act together over there and make some good entertainment.
Haven’t seen this one yet. Waiting for Disney +. But I did just watch Top Gun Maverick today. Holy shit!
You’re not missing a whole lot. Now, Maverick on the other hand…
@@hardcutreviews I’d like to see you guys review that.
Come on guys, "just passed away?". He was dead for 2 years.🤣
Yeah, Chadwick died in August of 2020. They immediately had to scrap BP 2 plans and rewrite/recast the film within 3 months of his passing so they could begin filming in 2021. By the time the movie was released, over 2 years had passed since his death. From the standpoint of the filmmakers having to make a decision on what to do, it was done fairly quickly.
How does Riri machine made with car parts able to withstand the pressure of the ocean floor that was never tested without vibranium?
Tchalla was dead for 5 years after Infinity War so that would have been perfect to honor Chadwick then and have a post credit scene when Tchalla gets blipped back then he’s off to endgame. They honored Chadwick but Tchalla is still alive and they can recast him through the multiverse in Secret Wars
We thought he would definitely come back via the multiverse. Different actor but keep the character alive. Then you could have Shuri and his mother have to interact with a different version of him. Would have been interesting.
@@hardcutreviews facts. It could make for nice conversations, 838 Tchalla was probably married to storm and does not love Nakia. 838 Tchalla could have the cape but no, they made a new tchalla and killed the mom
@@tmac731 Killing the queen was overkill in a movie where you’re already mourning T’Challa. Her death was glossed over and should have been just as ceremonious as the opening of the film. She was such a strong character.
@@hardcutreviews killing her made me more mad than killing tchalla. I mean her death was focused on a lot, had the same funeral. I guess she got over her death quicker than her brother because she burned the clothes after she fought namor. She healed from her mom dying by not killing namor and she got over tchalla after that
@@tmac731 Yeah good points. It just felt like they crammed her death in for maximum grief. They cleaned house in this movie.
Boring movie hahaha
#recasttchalla
Tchalla was dead for 5 years after Infinity War so that would have been perfect to honor Chadwick then and have a post credit scene when Tchalla gets blipped back then he’s off to endgame. They honored Chadwick but Tchalla is still alive and they can recast him through the multiverse
I’m sick of seeing certain people 😂
This movie s#k3d. So did the last black panther. i am not a ray.cist. BUT the best iteration of Ta'Challa was Civil War. The director is an ide.o.lodge. They make horrible movies
I think the movie blows. Just cgi him dying in another movie and that’s that. He died like Ironman and black widow.
Such a lame way for the character to exit the franchise.
@@hardcutreviews it is and fortunately for Marvel, they CAN bring back RDJ and Scarlett Johansson as well as Chris Evans using their multiverse timeline gimmicks. I think fans want that as the MCU has really nose dived since Endgame. Spider-Man was the exception. Disney is too caught up in wokery and being agenda driven rather than good story telling. I think most fans are fed up. The same can be said over on the DC side as well. In Black Panthers case, the actor is really gone. There’s no bringing him back through creative time lines. That said, marvel needs to find better methods to deal with filling that void rather than give us a tribute movie. If I’m paying to see a movie called Rambo, the character Rambo better goddamn be in it. Lol apparently nobody was creative enough to figure out how to transition to a new black panther. Instead they made it clear their mission is to continue to replace all the main MALE heroes with female versions. Hence the woke M SHE U.
Sharing invents something. T'Challa says it's not ready she says it is.Something happens she uses the thing it doesn't work. T'Challa has to save her and sacrifices himself. She feels guilt and has her heroes journey.
I mean, essentially, it’s the Halloween three of the black panther franchise 🤷♂️ lol
Savage.
Recasting T'challa doesn't sucks like you said guys. Marvel Studios and Disney did this movie on purpose for money and to pit fanbase of casual and comic book readers.
That is a strong possibility.
Getting to the point we're all about to stop watching Disney stuff. Sucks but it's hard to put up with this shit lol. Also glad to see you guys taking off so quick. Hope it keeps going for you.
Thanks, dude. Appreciate the support! We were mad late on this video but felt it was still worth doing. Watching Disney in free fall is painful.
@@hardcutreviews oh yeah it was definitely worth doing. I feel like people need to hear it whether they want to or not. It's conflicting for me because I like almost all the IP's they own but I can't support this goofy shit because some lunatics think I should.
@@MachoMovieMadness That’s what sucks. They are the gatekeepers of so many great IPs now. It’s going to a fun year of below average films.
@@hardcutreviews and as long as they can get smiles out of simpletons and cucks, it really doesn't matter to them.
18:44 can’t wait to see the rainbow score for the movie that has a Hispanic villain swim into a sovereign land illegally, And, he is defeated by drying his back off.
I’m so glad y’all made this thank you an bring back the king
Because the civil war version is the real tchalla in the comics
His character is fantastic in that film.
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