Failed Kashmir talks of seventy years ago help understand why Pakistan won’t make peace
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- Seventy years ago this week, the Prime Ministers of India and Pakistan began talks on Kashmir. Their failure explains why even financial meltdown and internal chaos won’t push Pakistan to accept the status-quo
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Kashmir is just an excuse for the existence of the Pakistan army.
Without Kashmir, there's no dispute with India.
Except India, Pakistan has no enemies.
Without any enemy what will be the justification for the existence of such a massive military which eats almost 70% of the nation's budget?
We have Afghans at our Western borders who have ruined the sub continent many times throughout the course of history.
The British actually engineered this issue to benefit formerly their Royal Army if there was no dispute between these two countries how the Armies of both countries could be controlled a huge trained Army who fought two world wars in the nook and corners of Europe and Far East.
The other beneficiaries British left for Ernie g benefits were their civil.service and the feudal lords. India was successful to get rid of those Queen's loyal feudal lords but u fortunately Pakistan could not.
Kashmir problem is created by Lehrroo, it was alwayes a mis managed area. Pakistan based on madina verses of quran bound to do what it does, it is we who are fool that we think it would do otherwise.
By your logic it also stands that there will never be peace with Pakistan. They have found a cozy spot in the country --- corrupt as hell with a halo. And for that reason India should never fall into the trap of Aman ki Asha
@@chadhar7773 hmmm I would say Pakfauj have ruined the sub continent..... Until Paksi people demand true democracy & send pakfauj to the barracks, there will be no peace.
Both Bogra and Iskander Mirza were from East Bengal. Both died ignominious death.
One minor correction. The never ending Jihad in Kashmir did not start in 1988. It started in the 14th century. A new chapter in the ongoing saga started in 1988.
That is inaccurate. The gradual decrease of Hindu population in Kashmir is a long term geopolitical phenomenon, while the 1988 jihad is an anti-Indian genocide. They are very different to one another.
@@c.i.a.932 geographical ? More like cultural genocide
@@c.i.a.932well in the 14th century, many foreful conversions of hindus did happen, and since then kashmir had gone back and forth between peace and violence.
Q) What is this Kashmir issue?
Ans) They just want Independence from India.
Q) Why do they want Independence?
Ans) Because it's a Muslim majority so they don't want to stay with a Hindu majority India.
Q) How did kashmir became a Muslim majority at the first place?
Ans) Just like how West Bengal ,Assam, Kerala are now becoming Muslim majority gradually before our eyes and Hindus are doing nothing about it.
PS will absolutely not agree with you. He used to work for THE HINDU.
WORLD SHOULD PRESSURE INDIA TO FREE KASHMIR
@@magma9000 terrorism leads you to beg from pork eating Chinese. After claiming to be descendants of turks, mongols, arabs and Persians, I see Pakistanis finally settle for as descendants of Chinese
@@magma9000 also Balochistan must become an independent if pakistan emphasises on kashmir which is never part of pakistan.
kerala is not becoming a kashmir or there is any issues between hindus and muslims. stop listening to propaganda
This program treated the topic as it should be treated - a hidden gem of a story!
😊0uul0
Pakistani economy today might be in same bad shape like it was during chacha’s reign. However Hindus have now decided no peace unless Pakistanis are re educated and then today it’s not chacha in power but BAAP MODIJI. So PS relax
Least delusional Indian 😂😂😂😂
@@magma9000 stop begging from pork eating Chinese, have you guys no self respect
Chacha was not a weak PM. The recent release Roy Bucher papers shows that he was otherwise what recent Political narrative deemed him to be.
Correction: The picture shown at 4:11 minutes is that of General Mohammed Akbar Khan, MBE, PA 1 and not that of Major General Akbar Khan, DSO, who headed the pakistani operation in Kashmir during 1947-48.
Deeply researched and well delivered. More importantly - un-opinionated. Kudos to Mr Swami.
So well narrated . Subject + intellect is a killer 👍
Praveen, please explain in another episode as to why the Indian Government did not press for making the LoC as a permanent international border after the 1971 war.
You are one of the best narrator-journalists around. You should write more books (non/fiction) based on your experiences .
A really pertinent topic to hold a talk on. Thank you!
Excellent analysis by Praveen ji
There are no solutions today. There were many in 1947. The so called leaders of both countries have messed it up. Now the only solution is LOC, which the Congress govt in 70 years has not been able to achieve. Will BJP be able to solve the mess?
only solution is LOC means what ? and what is congress is not able to achieve ?
Although the selective bits are interesting and well researched, the episode seemed to lack continuity.
Brilliantly compiled, and well narrated👍
Thanks for another brilliant episode
"Past is the present?" Really? A lot of things seem to have successfully parted ways with the past in recent years, haven't they?
While the piece reflects the brilliance of Praveen Swami, it fails to be succinct. There should be a few line summary that ties the whole thing together
I hope the leadership heeds to this and doesn’t go about executing the misguided naive playbook of the past. The only way forward is post collapse of the Pakistan army. We need to ensure that nation implodes and mustn’t interrupt our enemies while they are making mistakes.
Pakistan must give up WMD'S for international aid.
India ko balochistan azad krna chaiye
Free Khalistan and Nagaland from india
Love from Pakistan 🇵🇰❤️🇮🇳
There has been a lot of noise about Mir Jaffer in Pakistan these days. Ironically, Iskindar Mirza was from the Mir Jaffer's blood line; who went on to become ur first President
K2WE KAISE HAIN
We don’t love u😂fk off😂
There is no love in this subject, just unjust hatred from Pakistani army side to maintain their defence finance
See Indians,
Irrelevant country and people sent their love 😘🥱🥱🤣🤣🤣
Its commonsense Pakistani army never wants peace because kashmir ka chuuran khila ker jahil awaam bo buddu bana rahee for 75 yrs ha are generals are looting pakistan eg Like Bajwa Mussraff gen Kayani raheel shareef all millioniares and living abroad
You should start doing cut the clutter Praveen Swami, You are knowledge-full
Just repeating the history doesn’t solve anything.Only doers do better than Poets!
Amazing
it's Nehru who created this issue including Indo China border issue
Pravin is the best !!
Their politcian strive and make living with Kashmir. Lmao
WHO CARES, thank god BJP abolished 370 and this Peace Tamasha/Junket is over.
Pok is the need of Pakistani army 😂
It is the reason for their control n power
Swami, WTF do you mean by indian administrative territory
Indian side of Kashmir. J&K
U moron Aksai chin PAK IAK and Sakshagham valley r all under UN resolutions so we can call it so
And you have endians that made PM of Kashmir the CM of Kashmir are you forgetting that you did that
this sort of non-linear narration is useless. i did not understand the reason really. its just some "fine english" words to me. thats all. but not great story telling. Other than Sekhar Gupta, none of you can narrate a good story.
Free Khalistan and Nagaland
Modi can solve kashmir, make LOC border. But Pakistan is too unstable and will be so for some more years at least. But the decline of secularism in India is a blunder in India's national security and integrity. Indian muslim population could have been perfect bridge to kashmir, but the way they have been attacked themselves in the new discourse is a shame.
It's buslims who r attacking hindus
If you feel that secularism has declined in recent years, then please explain why secularism didn't help before and why is it that the party which everyone claims to call anti muslim is currently responsible for restoring relative normalcy in Kashmir. Please remind me again when and why was there an exodus of Kashmiri hindus from kashmir? Where were the rest of Indian muslims during that time period? Did they not have a voice during highly secular period of India?
The so-called secularism in India is a mirage. It never existed and never will. India favours Hinduism as a de facto state religion. That's why you can see Hindus getting preference even in criminal cases.
Wherever there is a Muslim majority, society loses its peace.
Please define secularism. Without all citizens in the country having the same laws there is no secularism. If a religious minority has its own laws then it lives in its own ghetto,it's not secularism. Specially when that minority had the option to migrate to another country which was created for that religion (and would follow their own laws)
WORLD SHOULD PRESSURE INDIA TO FREE KASHMIR
World won't do it unless Pakistan threatens to nuke it self. Meanwhile, Afghanistan will start the countdown
MU MEIN LELE
India will free balochistan and sindh from pakistan
Beta india free krega balochistan aur sindh ko just wait jaise Bangladesh ko kiya
Hmm stop terrorising baloch people !!