Should India talk to the new Pakistan govt? Imperfect peace is better than a crisis
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- Опубликовано: 10 ноя 2024
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Ever since the Balakot crisis, India’s rejected opening diplomatic dialogue with Pakistan. It isn’t hard to understand why: the road from the Lahore summit led on to Kargil, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh got 26/11, and Prime Minister Modi, Pulwama. But past dialogue also helped ensure a ceasefire on the Line of Control, cutting infiltration into Kashmir, as well as a decline in terrorism. Even if India-Pakistan engagement sometimes seems pointless, it’s better than war.
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👉 Talking to Pakistan is pointless. No longer important for India to engage with a rouge state.
Agreed!
Sad by true, from Pakistani Canadian.
Exactly.
Even before a government is formed in Pakistan, Paki dalla's in India have swung into action 🙄 Aman ki Asha types have already started their Tamasha - their mouths watering at the prospect of being invited to Scotch & Biryani parties 😏
@@NoumanArif007You are Canadian not pakistani
@@pulipakasrikiran9307 You mean Indian Americans or the whole NRI population doesn't exist ?
Now that there is a new Govt in Pakistan, hearts of our Aman ki Asha gang members started cockling!!! these guys will scare you with the thoughts of rogue Pakistan. But who cares for Pakistan's military power? It is best to ignore it as Modi has been doing it but be ready to hit it back badly anytime it misbehaves. Meanwhile, scholarly Pravin should keep talking and we will keep listening to him anyway!!!
Who's weary of Paki generals ? even imran isn't....... these guys have nuisance values. Hence a strong distance & ready for demonstrable cost for any misadventures seems the only way fwd at least in the short term till there's complete overall change in their polity
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Aman ki aasha was propagated by pseudo secularists like their ancestors started NAM.
Best is to leave Pakistan to Pakistan.
Absolutely agreed … MODI’s Pakistan policy is the best policy ever by any PM of India’s history . Just ignore those Islamic zombies .
I was expecting Print guy swamy to say exactly this, so predictable. India should just ignore pak for next 10 years
For a generation.
India should actively try to take over Pakistan. Pakistan is now a proxy state of China.
For the first time since propping up of the ‘Aman Ki Asha’ gangs' dream ghetto state, it has been the most rightly treated by India with laser sharp statecraft. The same gang seems to suffer from pinworm restlessness ever since. India must continue to deal with the terror ghetto as it has been doing during the past one decade.
You have my 100% backing on this
The status quo is good. No major terrorist attacks in India in last 10 years except URI and Pathankot. In UPA era which tried peace with Pakistan we used to have too many attacks every now and then. Delhi-Mumbai-Jaipur-Pune what not. People have short memories.
Intellectual Talibans. Wtf is wrong with the print.
Just like congress party...taken over by Marxist journalist...other than Shekar this are all brainwashed commies churned out by our journalism colleges
Thank God they didn't say pious Taliban ...
They are example of Marxist journalists..
The Print is with Pakistan
Nothing much print has been hijacked by Marxist journalists
So do the same thing an idiot does; by doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different result.
Well said bro, a slight correction though. Doing the same thing again and again, expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.
For any meaningful dialogue Pakistani society needs to be secular first
Even Indian constitution is not secular but anti Hindu, pseudo secular & pro Muslim/Issai!!
Yes and india needs to be non Hindu also. 😂
Pakistan's Sharia courts don't have jurisdiction over the Pakistani minority. Rest all of the laws are religion independant. So informally speaking Pakistan is secular with respect to the minorities. How the Muslim community deals with its internal matters should be none of your business.
@@bilalbaig8586 What a load of bullshi t. Pakistanis en masse routinely hold pogroms to either murder, or rape minority women on false pretexts including and especially blasphemy. This is hardly a secular society. Muslim communities don't and have never have limited their ambitions to just their community. Their attempts to kill or convert minorities is sanctioned by their religious text. Again, it's hardly a secular society. Due to this, it's incumbent upon the religious minorities and the rest of the world to educate Muslim Pakistanis on their terrorizing, pdf file prophet.
@@bilalbaig8586 BS!!
Could never understand the importance given to Pakistan by refugees, Delhi based journalists etc. Pakistan has no value and its effect does not extend beyond the teo lines of Atari and Delhi.
If China moves its 1 million army to our borders, we need to move our million army there too, without bothering about half a million pakistani army on our western borders. That is biggest way Pakistan is relevant in our military calculus.
@@sreekr Pakistan economically and politically collapsed hence they won't do any misadventure to trigger India
@@SubhashishBagchi It is in a desperate state. But countries like the US and China will not allow it to collapse. They have uses from pakistan, and they can keep it afloat for that, with amounts that are just chump change to their larger economies.
@@sreekr If that was the case then Pakistan wouldn't be begging around for $1billion to IMF, Why do you Pakistan became the first country who went to IMF for 17time??
Pakistan Army is most hated entity due to recent election result and putting Imran khan in jail. Moreover Pakistan is not in sweet spot because just few day ago we have seen the border conflicts rose to missile exchange between Iran and Pakistan and Afghanistan doing Terror Activity all across Pakistan. Then they have another headache called BLA (baloch liberation army) hence Pakistan won't dare to do misadventure against India because they know that India won't take time to repeat 1971 history.
@@SubhashishBagchi Why do you think IMF bailed out Pakistan all those times ? It is US proping up Pakistan. Note that the Pakistani army threw out Imran, changed position in the Russia-Ukraine to side with the western one, provded much needed artillery shells and other arms to Ukraine. The US also allowed upgrades for Pakistani F-16s. Just wait some time and IMF will bail out Pakistan yet again. Note that china had postponed a lot of interest and other payments due to China from pakistan. Both US and China see utility in propping up Pakistan and they will continue doing so.
Of course, Pakistan is in no position to invade India successfully. But if India were to get into a serious confrontation with China, you can bet china would be encouraging them to move in from the west on India as well.
Dear Praveen Saheb, for all your eloquent british accent talk I would say one thing - for all that happened from 1980s till date, India should wait for a generation more before starting full fledged relation with Pak. Allow Pak to settle with itself and India to heal its wounds
Blah blah and so on. Pointless
No matter what the facts are hardcore leftists like Praveen swamy and Shekhar seldom change
What about andhbhakts like you ? SC has demolished 'electoral bonds ' - what will you guys do now ? PM'S private relief fund is next - we can understand your inner turmoil ...
@@xcel5203And you have wide open eyes
These leftists/communists created Islamic Pakistan so it's their baby!!
These lefties get that goody goody feeling in their stomachs when they think of 'aman tamasha" with a rouge state.
@@xcel5203the same SC also upheld the abrogation of article 360. Why was such hue and cry about that? Bro you can’t be selective, if SC favours you than it is upholder of democracy and constitution and if it goes against then you cry SC has been compromised. Why such hypocrisy? And regarding “Andhbhakt” tag I don’t see him saying anything positive about BJP. He might be just a centrist and why anyone who speaks against left is “andhbhakt”. I am from WB my father has been voting for congress all his life even I voted for it. And the fact we don’t like left is enough for you guys to tag me as andhbhakt.
After aptly articulating the unchanging core values of Pak GHQ (permanent power center since creation of this artificial state), what is the benefit for India to fall into the trap of "South Asian biryani journalists" & Pak PMs from Fauji nursery??? Using wordsmithy to hold the "sword of war" doesn't have desired effect on Indians anymore coz Pak Fauj is incapable of war & and therefore outsourced it to LeT, JeM, HM....Best to give up Lahori (or Rawalpindi) churan & free trips across LoC
Well said...
These are just desperate attempts to rekindle "aman ki asha" initiatives (and the concomitant kebab, shayari, qawwali and whiskey jaunts by the lutyens dregs) using the language and logic of realpolitik and self- interest, so as to make it palatable to the general population...possibly also an attempt to show the decision makers at PMO that public has been suitably softened in this matter and that they can try to revive Track II stuff...
Bharat is just fine with the way things are...minimal and necessary communication only & to let Pakis wallow in their mire...why lend a helping hand when they're imploding?
But TBH, the so called "new govt" has all familiar old faces.
So the Aman ki Asha types are out, even before any Govt in Pakistan has been installed.
Modi will just wait out Pakistan making itself economically weaker and weaker. He knows where, where and how to strike and he has phenomenal patience.
Keep it the way it is now, till Jihadi-software is updated.
Unfortunately, will never happen.
why must india talk to pakistan ; if pak wants let them talk. they had stopped the trade not india
Pro Pakistani channel Print wants peace talk with Pakistan.😅😅😅😅😅😅
You forgot our PM diverted his flight to eat biryani in Pakistan 😂😂.
@@xcel5203 Our PM also responsible for putting Pak in FATF Grey list😆😆😆
Given the extremely low probability of a genuine, enduring peace one may ask - what's wrong with the status quo? Relatively speaking, militancy is under control, the border is "peaceful" (or at least silent) and India's finding a way around Pakistan strategically, geographically and diplomatically. Let it remain so indefinitely, until/unless there're revolutionary changes which give reasons to rethink the strategy of ignore and/or stonewall which is working.
No, no, no! No talks, no compromise, no tricks.
As Dr S Jaishankar rightly said "Victims of terrorism do not sit and talk with perpetrators of terrorism to discuss terrorism. "
The Print shoudl shift base to Pakistan first.
So you want to give them another opportunity to backstab us. Nice. 🤡
We talk only to mature adults not 'juvenile jihadis' .
Nope we should. You don’t need to love your neighbor you can simply ignore them specially when it’s a tinderbox like Pakistan.
5:07 India's GDP is more than 10x of Pakistan.. please correct your data
He is always behind. Even India's per capita GDP is 80% more while he says 50% more
@@ravindra7791they might be getting their briefing from across the border
Other than that, two factual errors in this episode: a) in 1970, Pakistan was ~1.5-1.6x India in terms of per capita GDP, but still
Praveen Swamy is an artist I never end up finding the meaning in his videos, the more I watch them the more confused I get
That's the whole point of people like him. Talk a lot but say very little
Keep watching; maybe one day you'll get inspiration.
Is it that hard ? He draws parallels between Chinese leader Mao once not taking a call from Moscow for negotiations, with Modi ignoring repeated pakistani requests for talks. And that while the current status quo doesn't hurt us for now, for dealing with a much larger chinese threat, we might have to get into some form of conflict resolution with pakistan.
@@sreekr thanks for explaining but the topic at hand was the new Pakistani government not communications with Pakistan
@@paurinzaveri9673 New government as in the current government ? You think pakistan will have a government that doesn't change ? Even their army ones change in time. India will at some point have to talk with them. India wouldn't even agree to their demands like Kashmir. But the talks might be just that, convincing them to let go of any fantasy of capturing Kashmir.
Aren't we at peace with Pakistan now? Ie: by not interacting with them. What will improve by "imperfect peace"? My opinion,- currently no overtures required.
Pehli fursat me nikal. Jyada shonk hai baat karne ka, to ja wahan aur karta reh bate.
Cant understand this video without oxford dictionary in hand 😅
Hindi Version available for dehaatis 😢😢 .
@@xcel5203 yeah don't act like Western racist
@@xcel5203so now English is the language of intelligence. Libbus with their idiotic takes.
What Mani Shanker says always about talking to Pak, Pravin is saying in a long and convoluted manner. Nothing will be achieved.
This blud does a lot of wafflin in the tone and cadence of a Class 9 ICSE School English teacher - and ultimately ends with JNU History professor level simplistic one liners. To paraphrase the professor from 3 idiots - "Arey bhai kehna kya chahte ho"
Pakistan is a lost case but only fact is their long range missiles and nuclear weapons.
No talk to terrorists
Actions speak louder than words... Ajit Doval knows this 😅😅😅😅😅
Do we really need dialogue? Pakistan will continue to do whatever it's military will be asked to do by the Western world and the Chinese.
Why should we then waste our energy!
It is better to stay away and ignore Pakistan.
Terror and talks can’t go together first delivered on terrorism then any talk can initiate. Modi Govt should not fall in trap or more pathankot Uri can be in offing.
very much possible ...This new Muneer is a wily fox and that too total Hafiz (read fundamentalist) and his Johnny (read Anjum ISI) ...none in Pakistan has been able to decipher them well ... our endeavor --Keep them at long stick distance but keep an hawk eye
Pervez Shami has totally gone berserk!!!!! :)
While the idea of engaging in dialogue with the new Pakistan government might seem appealing, there are several valid arguments against it:
Historical Context: Past attempts at peace have often been met with aggression and hostility. Instances like the Kargil conflict and the attack on India’s Parliament House demonstrate the challenges of maintaining peace.
Resource Allocation: While imperfect peace along the Line of Control provides stability, it also requires significant economic resources for military and counter-insurgency operations. Allocating fewer resources to conflict management could address other pressing issues.
Communication Strategies: Leaders have used both dialogue and silence as crisis communication tools. Sometimes, refusing to pick up the phone can send a powerful message.
Bhaarat will talk with Pakistan, When they are ready to give up Nationhood and decide to merge back with our Hindu Nation.
Absolutely not. Let them merge with Afganistan. We don't want shit in our home.
HELL NO! Jinnah did a great service to us by taking away a significant filth away from our borders. We at least have a Hindu majority country for ourselves. Otherwise these pigs would have out breed us and turned into an I S L A M I C state by now. We are at least breathing safely. Why do you want those to come back to us? Nope. Never.
No talks with Pakistan. Those times are gone now.
The indians have been talking to Pakistan for last 75 years. What is the outcome?
Did Pakistan stopped sending terrorists into kashmir or return POK to india
No one in India is felling the need to "Talk to Pak". It seems only "The Print" has that need.
GOI must consult The print - the xerox copy 😅
Looks like hard left are completely ignorent, here comment section has more wisdom then 14min long bs. Pakistan walfare and prosperity has never been in india interest and never will be in india interest. Sooner you understand, better will be. Explore other options to maintain peace in region, peace talk with pak gov never worked as army take all decision.
According to talking to PAk might lead to conflicts at loc & Kasmir but it is better than war crisis...but forget that these terror conflicts can lead to war like situation.. so it's better not to talk with PAK
What is crisis we not in a crisis.
And we should talk with whom and what.
We know who are in the power so if we want to talk we talk to them not the puppets
We have talked to Pakistan for 70 of the past 76 years and it did not help India in any way. Pakistan needs to do a lot of things first before it makes sense to talk anymore.
No need, as long as they adhere to the ceasefire on LOC, which they will because they can't afford to go against it. Talks only if all the preconditions of India is fulfilled.
One question. Why?
No, India shouldn't talk with pak because Nation always first.
What's new about "New Govt"? They are all old faces and we've seen them all.
Why do I fi d progressively that "The Print" is trying to pursue the Indian Voters against the actual public view?
Pakistan has no other motive than disturb Indians and Indian policy makers..
In last 75 years, the only way we could get some traction is by not talking to Pakistan!
We must learn and move on and these stupid Journos really need to learn to understand what is in Indian benefit and support it!
The answer to the question in the headline: No! Instead the Pakistan Government should be dismantled. Reunite Punjab and Kashmir first, then have united Punjab, united Kashmir and Sindh be part of India! That is the only long-term solution! Where are the visionary politicians, who understand to cease the opportunities of the moment instead of snaring at them!
Aman ki asha gang is so desparate and helpless.
Indians will not talk to Pakistan ever.
Ab bas action hoga !!! (Pok/gb).
Total bullshit
Such anti nationals
nah no relation needed with pakistan
Two main interests which india still has with pakistan is firstly that open publicised nuclear confrontation with pakistan will halt investment in india from west . Whether pakistan can reignite kashmir and aggravate khalistan issue on ground .Contrary to international propaganda there is no real change in resources of agrarian pakistan and its diaspora , it is bad civil service stucture and inappropriate handling of smuggling in north and not jailed yet karachi dollar mafias groups which have thrown pakistan into pseudo economic crisis .The cureent constitution needs amends too . Pakistan cares nothing about indian SC decision on kashmir . After this SC ruling little remains for talks
as if there is a Govt in Pakistan. Stop it Swami
Idiot Print man should be made PM who would hug Pakistan PM & develop friendship
Useless talk !
Pakistan se baat bhi karoge woh log puche mein 🔪knife maar te h agar koi peace ki baat ki toh yeh log terrorism ko india mein supporrt karte unki bajese hamare kitne jawano ne apni jaan di h desh ke liye aur tum bol te ho peace kar le kya hum bhool jay yeh sabh sacrifices humare jawano ne ki
Pleasure to listen Praveen
10:47 Liaqat Ali Khan was assasinated in October 1951. You need to do better.
If India and some fellow Comrades really want to hit the reset button on everything we've hustled for in the past decade, then sure, they can pack their bags for a comedy tour to Pakistan! And if it's just about stocking up on onions and tomatoes during a veggie crisis, let's explore other 'produce' countries, shall we?
7:54 "not talking"
The presenter has a peculiar scholarly literary style unmatched and sometimes lovely . He has rendered an advice in good faith , but indian SC ruling on Kashmir has opened door to nuclear standoff sooner or later especially as fertility of Sindh and Punjab is owing to rivers which flow from Kashmir . I do not have the slightest doubt that with clear anti Islam government in India and India building dams on river and India supporting insurgency in Pakistan every thing is set up for nuclear standoff and even more , modi is underestimating the militant spirit of Pakistani population and is taking risks in all directions . His effort to create a china USA standoff in Maldive , trying to show as if India can match manufacturing power of china , and all such ventures seem like taking India to war war an destruction . Indian FM is leading that nation to disaster . The very assumption that USA fights overseas endlessly ended in Vietnam Iraq and Afghanistan . They neither have economy nor stomach to do so . Jaishakar should be removed as a nuclear standoff with Pakistan can retard all foriegn investment in India
Ghq will be responded only by army hq delhi no need to waste time of modiji 😅
No no no connection.
Praveen sounds like an advisor to Indira during the 1972 Simla agreement, or worse, an advior to Prithviraj Chauhan. Some people believe that life is fleeting, but death is eternal. Fighting against that belief is the human being's natural propensity to fight for life. And that is where the mind, the intellect, influences behavior, overtly for jihadists, but subtly for the well meaning rest. But be assured, Praveen, when the jihadists take charge, the rest will be mute, because death is eternal and they dare not challenge that equation. But those whose believe their next life will be based on their current life will behave responsibly towards others. Those who believe the judgment is based on loyalty to a cause will not. Fight that battle today, when you are strong, or lose it when you are weak.
Thankyou for the information video.
India will start talking to the new Pakistani regime because they under Indian payroll.
Indian and India has no interest to resume talk with Pakistan.
Talk and Terrorism cannot go hand in hand.
Funded by ISi Hmm! And ' So called Hindu India? ' what does that mean.India ix Hindu.
As always a pleasure to hear you Sir Praveen Swamy
yeap! llibrandus lives in their own la la land.