I feel like having more build options on a spec is always a good thing, players enjoy diferent playstyles , and since DH only have 2 specs, It would be cool to have more variety on the gameplay, and hero talents are a good oportunity to do it. I personally love the idea of a DH that does not need movement to do damage.
Same. Using movement skills in the rotation is just... anti mmo intuitiveness, especially for melee. I only want to press movement skills to reposition.
@@zuralani1 it sucks but this is part of the reason why you always want to have *at least* a couple alts though, that said, I feel like blizzard has done a significantly better job maintaining viable class balance compared to some shit they got up to in the past
Im so use to movement now, when id play that no move st build it just felt so boring and like i wasnt doing enough. Momentum and inertia all xpan has killed any possibility for me not to do a movement build going forward 😂
When you say "fun" talents it is completely your opinion. The cool part of WoW is that all the specs have unique playstyles. One of those playstyles that I personally loved, was Demon Hunter from Antorus in Legion in which you stacked high Haste and spammed Chaos Strike. In my opinion, that was insanely fun because it felt really powerful to keep getting fury refunds which let you keep hitting your spender and you really felt the "pumping" feeling. This shift to like a burst sequence playstyle with essence break did not add fun to the spec in my opinion. Other specs already play like that, but which other spec lets you just constantly pump resource spenders? Not many.
@@VooDooSaurus so 1 spec, that's why I said not many. If you remove the movement ability out of inertia it's very similar to most other specs that want to do damage in a window, the only unique part is that you activate this by dashing around. I understand this definitely does "feel" unique and fun to a lot of players, so of course they should keep it viable an the tuning close, but to suggest that if it's not the best simming option and the best dps that the class is suddenly doomed and boring is being a little disengenuous to the DH community I mean look at the comments. A lot of people also like DH without movement. I think the focus on feedback should be how to enhance both playstyles and shine in their own way
This is my nightmare, I really don’t want to try to master 2 so different build swap from st and aoe, trying to not mesh rush not rush macros, no mention maybe 2 build run different stats like haste for bo mov and mastery for inertia….hope we can take 1 play style and use it in all content with few swap points
@@FelFireGazeTV it’s not as reliant due to those nerfs they made to demonic and what not, but it’s also just much better than inertia as of right now, so even with some losses it should come out ahead
@@VooDooSaurus Main point is that no mover build is extremely uptime hungry due to multiple things that synergize in a multiplicative manner. So any downtime would be severely punished, don't you think?
I'm new to dh and since I have always played plates it's kinda very new to me learning fast movement like dh haha but I enjoy it very much very refreshing to me
Inertia is just way too strong in m+ I find it hard to envision a situation where that isn’t taken. Probably something similar to what we played in s3/4 Dflight - glaive talents but we’ll see with more testing
because it's fun? i have mained HDH since it was added, momentum (and inertia, when it was added) only, never done anything else, even during patches where HDH sucks nothing else in this game comes close to even being half as fun to me
The fact you have to move on demon hunter to optimizing dmg is annoying and feels bad to play. thhe delay you get from fel rush and reatreat makes it clunky.
@@carlzen5540 that sounds like a high ping issue. I've noticed that (while i prefer mover build) it feels *TERRIBLE* with even slightly high ping. What does your ms usually look like? If you don't know you can check by hovering over the question mark in game and looking under latency. It's usually a lot higher if you are playing on a server that is hosted far from you (so like an oceanic server for someone in new york, or vice versa), or in a group with a leader from one of those realms.
I feel like having more build options on a spec is always a good thing, players enjoy diferent playstyles , and since DH only have 2 specs, It would be cool to have more variety on the gameplay, and hero talents are a good oportunity to do it. I personally love the idea of a DH that does not need movement to do damage.
Same. Using movement skills in the rotation is just... anti mmo intuitiveness, especially for melee. I only want to press movement skills to reposition.
@@Proverb. Exactly, such as Monk or even Rogue.
tbh we need 3rd spec so bad, good or bad we need it
Ya having 2 specs and only 1 dps spec sucks
yeah, only 1 dps spec means if it is *ever* bad in either numbers or playstyle we are just screwed. No option but to reroll
@@zuralani1 it sucks but this is part of the reason why you always want to have *at least* a couple alts
though, that said, I feel like blizzard has done a significantly better job maintaining viable class balance compared to some shit they got up to in the past
Im so use to movement now, when id play that no move st build it just felt so boring and like i wasnt doing enough. Momentum and inertia all xpan has killed any possibility for me not to do a movement build going forward 😂
When you say "fun" talents it is completely your opinion. The cool part of WoW is that all the specs have unique playstyles. One of those playstyles that I personally loved, was Demon Hunter from Antorus in Legion in which you stacked high Haste and spammed Chaos Strike. In my opinion, that was insanely fun because it felt really powerful to keep getting fury refunds which let you keep hitting your spender and you really felt the "pumping" feeling. This shift to like a burst sequence playstyle with essence break did not add fun to the spec in my opinion. Other specs already play like that, but which other spec lets you just constantly pump resource spenders? Not many.
@@Proverb. no other spec plays like inertia havoc, literally not one. A LOT of other specs play like chaos strike spam, fury warrior for instance
@@VooDooSaurus so 1 spec, that's why I said not many. If you remove the movement ability out of inertia it's very similar to most other specs that want to do damage in a window, the only unique part is that you activate this by dashing around. I understand this definitely does "feel" unique and fun to a lot of players, so of course they should keep it viable an the tuning close, but to suggest that if it's not the best simming option and the best dps that the class is suddenly doomed and boring is being a little disengenuous to the DH community I mean look at the comments. A lot of people also like DH without movement. I think the focus on feedback should be how to enhance both playstyles and shine in their own way
This is my nightmare, I really don’t want to try to master 2 so different build swap from st and aoe, trying to not mesh rush not rush macros, no mention maybe 2 build run different stats like haste for bo mov and mastery for inertia….hope we can take 1 play style and use it in all content with few swap points
The uptime-hungry nightmare from Aberus returns? Get hit by one mechanic, lose 7% of your dps?
@@FelFireGazeTV it’s not as reliant due to those nerfs they made to demonic and what not, but it’s also just much better than inertia as of right now, so even with some losses it should come out ahead
@@VooDooSaurus Main point is that no mover build is extremely uptime hungry due to multiple things that synergize in a multiplicative manner. So any downtime would be severely punished, don't you think?
better than dashing on Tindral and lose 100% of your dps cuz you get cucked on rnd overlaps mid dash
I'm new to dh and since I have always played plates it's kinda very new to me learning fast movement like dh haha but I enjoy it very much very refreshing to me
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There will be less movement in raid in TWW if we do end up playing this build, only really using VR
I’m more curious about what the better builds will be for m+.
Inertia is just way too strong in m+ I find it hard to envision a situation where that isn’t taken. Probably something similar to what we played in s3/4 Dflight - glaive talents but we’ll see with more testing
@@VooDooSaurus that and things like Shattered Destiny lose a lot of value on shorter/burstier pulls.
No mover will rise again. It’s just facts.
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Why would anyone want to play the mover build just the thought of dashing around like moron to do more dmg is sooo stupid
Then why not just play a furry warrior or ret pally if all you wanted to do was stand still and spam 3 buttons
its very fun and very unique for wow
@@tbone8644 sadly i have already maind both of them on the last two expansions and now i have set my sight on demon hunter
i play no mover on mine dont care about the best builds etc as long as i have fun i dont care about the dps that much xD im a noob anyway :P
because it's fun?
i have mained HDH since it was added, momentum (and inertia, when it was added) only, never done anything else, even during patches where HDH sucks
nothing else in this game comes close to even being half as fun to me
I would like No-mover chaos strike spammer build to be an option
@@mehmetozturk771 it’s currently an option on live, very very close to the inertia build
@@VooDooSaurus Very close currently on live ? Guess we have different understanding of what "very very close" means
The fact you have to move on demon hunter to optimizing dmg is annoying and feels bad to play. thhe delay you get from fel rush and reatreat makes it clunky.
There’s not really a delay, at least not in what I’ve felt. They did work at the start of s3 to make it feel super smooth
@@VooDooSaurus hmm, weird. my fel rush and retreat gets delays all the time. it feels very unconsistent.
@@carlzen5540 right there with you. They've never felt good to press.
Theres no delay whats your stats? might be a haste thing
@@carlzen5540 that sounds like a high ping issue. I've noticed that (while i prefer mover build) it feels *TERRIBLE* with even slightly high ping. What does your ms usually look like? If you don't know you can check by hovering over the question mark in game and looking under latency. It's usually a lot higher if you are playing on a server that is hosted far from you (so like an oceanic server for someone in new york, or vice versa), or in a group with a leader from one of those realms.
No fel fush 100% meta uptime was my favorite build in s1 of dragonflight
Yes