We are working on section analysis and curvature combs for the next release. While Plasticity will never be parametric, the specific example given here (changing the radius of simple holes) is easily done by selecting all the holes you want to change and using the dimension command, which has the = (equals) keyboard shortcut. So you just type "=10mm" for example.
Please add instances, this is something without which it is very difficult to make a complex design with many elements. For example, I want all the bolts or other elements to be tied to one object and when this object changes, all the others change.
@@matsy7450 i'm not the dev but my guess is that it'd need a whole redesign from the ground up and it's specifically the fact that it isn't that gives it its strength, although it also has cons.
I really liked your video about plasticity, it also made me give it an honest try and I ended up buying it after the trial ran out. Here are my 2 cents about parametric vs non parametric modelling: I used to be working as a design engineer and I worked with companies that used inventor (big brother of fusion) and creo elements (professional non parametric engineering CAD, but aimed at engineers, so no complex geometries like in plasticity). During my engineering studies I was only taught parametric modelling and non parametric modelling in creo was completely new to me, but it felt way more natural and as I learned how to use it, I got a lot more done in less time. Especially new models are finished way quicker without parameters, and if you have a little bit more complex models and try to change it with parameters, it often fails, because the structure of your parameters did not account for that specific change you wanted to make and it breaks. So in the end most models have been way more work to finish with parameters, and even if parametric models could shine, because you want to reuse a model, they don't, because the model breaks. And changing a non parametric model isn't as slow or hard as people like to pretend it is, especially if you mastered the tools the program brings with it. In my personal experience parametric modelling never lived up to the claims and non parametric was not as bad as everybody wanted it to be. To be efficient with non parametric you do have to change your approach to modelling, that is for sure, but to me it was worth it. The only reason I went with a parametric program after changing careers was, that I didn't know about a non parametric program that was viable/cheap enough for playing around with models for hobbies, and blender was just to far from what I knew. Fusion has a non parametric mode as well, that is not bad btw. I have not worked long enough with plasticity to give a qualified statement, but I have already changed a lot on downloaded models and it worked very well, missing the sketches might just be a remnant of your "parametric upbringing". The solution you showed to changing hole sizes in a non parametric model was a pretty clunky one, plasticity has many options to grab faces and move them around/change dimensions inside the part, and it worked well for the changes I made in some models. To me parametric design was a very powerful tool for very few niche use cases, that is used way to much. If you have parts that come in tons of slightly different variations, parametric is probably better for you, but if you design stuff from scratch a lot or make rather drastical changes to models, non parametric is probably the better long term option. Right now with all the skills that I have, I would even design a part that would be ideal for parametric design in non parametric first and then come up with a good parametric structure after the geometry is figuered out.
Yep - I agree. So before Creo Elements Direct it was known as Co Create OneSpace Designer and before that HP SoliDesigner. I first played with solid modelling with HP ME30 it's predecessor over 35 years ago now. I would never be able to do a completely new, very complicated mechanical design in a parametric application - I need unencumbered cut /paste /delete for radical last minute alterations all the way to the design end without any unnecessary hinderances with simple engineering geometry interrogations and selections for component or assembly or document wide collections - I don't use Plasticity for that. Use the right tools for the job in hand. Surface creation / blending , Plasticity is exceptional and Studio is becoming unbelievable for the price.
I too have years of experience in the parametric world with Catia... If I had to choose between Catia and Plasticity, I'd select Plasticity in most cases because its just so much quicker to get from a to b. For me it falls down when having to deal with complex mechanisms.
First I missed in Plasticity some features from Moi3D a bit, but Nick asked me, what I needed and he try to realised it in Plasticity, today it feels like a "nextgen Moi3D"
This feels like misinterpreting the intended use case of Plasticity a bit. I don't think it was intended to be a competitor to parametric packages like Fusion, rather it was a way to blend the modelling features of NURBS with the flexibility of something like Blender. It's always been billed as "CAD for artists". I'd definitely still make mechanical models like your dock in a parametric package. But for bashing out concept 3D work or visualisation models Plasticity is more flexible.
Plasticity is a competitor to Rhino and MOI. I don't think he is misinterpreting the use case; rather one doesn't know exactly what type of software one needs until one is confronted with inherent limitations a little too often.
Yes, I am also a user of blender grid modeling, and I prefer the Plasticity of curves to a user of cad and 3d printing or industrial design as a way of reducing my work in blender
Thanks for your wonderful insight about Plasticity compared to Fusion. Fusion is great as it combines both parametric CAD with freeform design (T-spline).
good on ya for making another video instead of just moving on without updating. i watched the first video a while back when i was thinking about it and i anticipated you might have to come back.
I’m sure Plasticity will update with time to allow for exactly what you’re missing. I think the downsides far outweigh the flipside costs, especially annually.
Is there any option to add the Sheet Metal feature to the Plasticity? I just bought the Studio version without even trying one before. There was no time for that. Thr Black Friday offer was too nice though 🙂. I'm gonna switch from my beloved Rhino to Plasticity for some part of my works...
Among these 3 downside the only critical - is history absence. And I don't think it is so dead hard to implement considering both programs uses the same engine ParaSolid. If at least some of history steps were editable it would be a huge progress. Preserving undo history across sessions would be also excellent.
Hey man, I'm loving your videos, and very impressed with your video quality. I know you list your camera in the description of the video, but was wondering if I could pay you for a consultation on how to make your quality youtube video, with settings, lighting etc. Even an hour of your time, I'll be happy to pay.
Hey, did you try rhino 3d? I think its very difficoult to learn, but i would rather go to rhino3d instead of fusion3d... also for the costs and rhino3d is also parametric...
Anyone here have advice for the right software for my use case? I'm trying to create an accurate 3D model of a physical product I am trying to create. I need accurate materials and textures and the ability to comp it into actual photographs for mockups, marketing, and proof of concept. I've been struggling finding any videos on that specific pipeline. It's all mold-making and 3d printing.
Fusion, shapr, plasticity, onshape, solidworks..... any of them should be suitable to create an accurate 3D model. As far as material, textures, and mockups, that is best done in Blender or the Autodesk equivalent. Hope this helps.
Can someone please telll me what to do to become a "pro" in for example fusion? In my job i woek with solodworks and i can use it this far for what we want to peoduce. But how to become a real specialist in the software?
try to copy evereyday objects around you, pen, cups, books, whatever, and also a lot of youtube. i find that cad is like any other skill, it needs to be trained, but also maintained!
All big CAD-Programs cost wether monthly or annualy a lot of money and there is no one time purchase option. I used the free Student Version of Inventor by Autodesk, but I finished school and now I need an affordible CAD. I would pay Like 500-600$ but only onetime and not annualy
@@lilypower That's not what I was getting at. I meant, do they track somehow? That's what I was asking. I don't use it, was just wondering. It's too hard for me.
I've used rhino years ago and it was good but no parametric control, no history. I think like an engineer and prefer precise control and history for editing. Today rhino may be different so I will likely give it a shot.
Rhino has some of the best curve/spline tools out there. But it is no where as stable with complex geometry as plasticity is. One thing I really want from Plasticity is to export vector AI or SVG. The only way to do it currently is in a STEP, and 3ds Max does not import splines from STEP files. So I end up importing to Rhino just to export the AI to then import into 3ds Max or to create a texture in Illustrator. Exporting local pivots is non existent, and there's no instancing of parts. Two things Rhino can do. So if I import a file that also has a bunch of screws into 3ds Max from Rhino, each screw is a direct instance of all the others. Apply the material to one and they all get it. Or if you want to rotate them on their local axis, it just works. With Plasticity, I have to create the instances and pivots after exporting into other software, which is a huge waste of time.
I've been using Ansys SpaceClaim for nearly 10 years to design model car kits and been miserable at $1250/year! I'm looking at Plasticity to replace it. I tried Fusion and found it clunky and hard to use. Yeah, Plasticity works differently, some tools I wish I had, but looks like it's going to work for what I do.
Problem is, fusion is too expensive if you don’t earn money with it. I trust and support plasticity and guess it will be fanatic over year’s. My goto is shapr3D and it changes a lot over time. Has a timeline now I.e. and is kinda what you are searching. It cost not much annually and supports many OS.
Fusion is free if you don’t make money with it. Has been for yrs and yrs, like 10 yrs for me. The few things limited to pay versions are truly something you should be paying for.
Plasticity is CAD for artist, it make sens for some workflows like concept design, video game etc. I get your point but the thing is plasticity was never created to do what fusion or other CAD tools do
glad i found this channel,i was really down right now,i just want to upgrade my knowledge in designing softwares,my course give me a pain in ass here in my country,no construction company is interest on it,theres a few but too far..im glad i see this
Thanks for the video, I'm likely going to go for Plasticity as a long term Blender user. I used to Maya back in late 2000s and am sick of poly modeling for 3D printing applications. I do miss Fusion as well, and wish it was competitive to these other softwares. Instead we get "enshittification" of things these days.
@@eaman11 It's like $150 for the lowest tier and has other pro versions that start at like $700 and go to $1700 or so. No subscriptions. The cheap one definitely isn't crap but it'll irritate people who want to make complex contours easier than it already does. But even the cheap one is better than Fusion in my opinion for modeling.
The cross sectional analysis sounds like something you should file a feature request for. Other features i don't know, might be straying a little far from fundamental design goal of the software, but maybe worth a gentle question to developer?
I agree. Just as a tip - a week after your post, nickkallen1 (the founder of Plasticity, I presume) posted this in the comment section here (quote): "We are working on section analysis and curvature combs for the next release". So, that sounds promising.
Smart guy 😂 Love to hear both PRO/CON of Fusion/Plasticity. Not just some mindless guy that keep talking only good things about one to push you into buying. There are also Shapr3d, OnShape, BricsCAD... on the table beside those.
Someone needs a video to show how you move around and the individual commands by the first letter. That way you can slide along the video until you find what you need.
The most ridiculous thing about Fusion is, that on my M1 MacBook Pro the viewport runs at like 12fps or something by default, not only in complex projects. It’s not even natively supporting Apple Silicon yet. I know I know the industry mainly uses windows, but still offering that Mac Version while charging 600$ per year is kinda ridiculous imho… And yes it works, but it’s definitely not a joy, especially not once you’ve navigated within Shapr3d or Plasticity. Feature wise I have to say I really liked Fusion 360 so far, but experience wise not really. It’s surely a thing of getting used to. I wish Shaper3D would be a bit more affordable, it would probably be the sweet spot of both worlds😊
If you doing 3d modeling as a job then yes I understand people who need to pay to get what they need plus the help from the company you sub to. For me its just a passion so I use Blender, Plasticity and Sculptris, so all ive paid for is Plasticity as a 1 off, Just don't throw all your eggs in one basket if your not making money from it like myself.
i literally just watch a video on plasticity about using the history to go back to your shapes/edits and change them and then ur overall part adapts to the change… maybe 4 months ago you couldnt?
It is not a parametic based modeler - all shapes need modifying independently. There are no parametric links and no editable history to insert alterations.
@@kevbot. I'm happy for you. Presently Blender has a feature for NURMBS modelling. I believe it will get better overtime. Blender is free. I use fusion 360 & blender
Yeah, Plasticity is great and fun for things like display models or wargaming terrain, but for parts that are meant to be connected to something else I prefer Fusion.
So if I want updates, I have to pay $149 every year. What's the difference? *Edit: I just realized that the renew costs $100 + tax. But it's still technically an "annual subscription". Also, I can't renew years later, it's described in the faq: "You can renew from two months before and to four months after the expiration of your maintenance contract."
Surface modeling in P is still significantly better than F. P unlike Rhino has also fantastic direct modeling abilities making the history not always that needed. The parametric system is great for some basic designs but then moment the design gets to complex it will slow you down too. That’s why I often bake the history and create static models which will be easier to adjust.
A agree. Always take things worth a grain of salt and get multiple opinions. I will also say this video was made to point out the drawbacks of plasticity; I still use it daily to create my designs.
I get the price argument... no one likes to pay a lot for anything. In my experience, there are pro's and con's to all software and the more expensive variant is frequently not better. One point of view that is missing in most of these discussions is that if you are using this software in support of your own [small] business, you should be writing that cost off as a business expense. If you are, then you can make your choice based on which is best for your use case, and place less emphasis on the cost. Just sayin....
Solidworks is financially out of reach for a hobbyist or “maker” level of usage. A license is substantially more expensive than the packages he’s evaluated in his videos.
@@Dooo00-jp7eiUnfortunately, the native files from the makers version can’t be opened by the full versions (academic and professional). Not sure if the maker version can open full version SLDPRT or SLDASM files. You could of course export to a neutral format like STEP, but then you lose the parameterization.
Intersection preview - move boolean object in Blender Increase a hole size - scale boolean object in blender Alternatively use Cad plug-in for blender. Blender is superior 🤣
No kidding, i watched that video and knew you would eventually have to go back, 360 is a real cad program. The good thing is you got a lot of views for that video. I cant imagine prototyping without parametric. I use analysis in all designs. Larry
Can you not design something in fusion under one company name. Then sell the STL to another company under a different name for $1? Or have your partner create a fusion account and have them sell you the STL files for $1?
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We are working on section analysis and curvature combs for the next release. While Plasticity will never be parametric, the specific example given here (changing the radius of simple holes) is easily done by selecting all the holes you want to change and using the dimension command, which has the = (equals) keyboard shortcut. So you just type "=10mm" for example.
I did not know that. Thank you for sharing, Nick! I'm looking forward to the update. 🙌
Please add instances, this is something without which it is very difficult to make a complex design with many elements. For example, I want all the bolts or other elements to be tied to one object and when this object changes, all the others change.
@nickkallen1 Wait, why will Plasticity never be parametric?
Why will Plasticity never be parametric?
@@matsy7450 i'm not the dev but my guess is that it'd need a whole redesign from the ground up and it's specifically the fact that it isn't that gives it its strength, although it also has cons.
I really liked your video about plasticity, it also made me give it an honest try and I ended up buying it after the trial ran out.
Here are my 2 cents about parametric vs non parametric modelling:
I used to be working as a design engineer and I worked with companies that used inventor (big brother of fusion) and creo elements (professional non parametric engineering CAD, but aimed at engineers, so no complex geometries like in plasticity). During my engineering studies I was only taught parametric modelling and non parametric modelling in creo was completely new to me, but it felt way more natural and as I learned how to use it, I got a lot more done in less time. Especially new models are finished way quicker without parameters, and if you have a little bit more complex models and try to change it with parameters, it often fails, because the structure of your parameters did not account for that specific change you wanted to make and it breaks. So in the end most models have been way more work to finish with parameters, and even if parametric models could shine, because you want to reuse a model, they don't, because the model breaks. And changing a non parametric model isn't as slow or hard as people like to pretend it is, especially if you mastered the tools the program brings with it. In my personal experience parametric modelling never lived up to the claims and non parametric was not as bad as everybody wanted it to be.
To be efficient with non parametric you do have to change your approach to modelling, that is for sure, but to me it was worth it.
The only reason I went with a parametric program after changing careers was, that I didn't know about a non parametric program that was viable/cheap enough for playing around with models for hobbies, and blender was just to far from what I knew. Fusion has a non parametric mode as well, that is not bad btw.
I have not worked long enough with plasticity to give a qualified statement, but I have already changed a lot on downloaded models and it worked very well, missing the sketches might just be a remnant of your "parametric upbringing". The solution you showed to changing hole sizes in a non parametric model was a pretty clunky one, plasticity has many options to grab faces and move them around/change dimensions inside the part, and it worked well for the changes I made in some models.
To me parametric design was a very powerful tool for very few niche use cases, that is used way to much. If you have parts that come in tons of slightly different variations, parametric is probably better for you, but if you design stuff from scratch a lot or make rather drastical changes to models, non parametric is probably the better long term option. Right now with all the skills that I have, I would even design a part that would be ideal for parametric design in non parametric first and then come up with a good parametric structure after the geometry is figuered out.
Yep - I agree. So before Creo Elements Direct it was known as Co Create OneSpace Designer and before that HP SoliDesigner. I first played with solid modelling with HP ME30 it's predecessor over 35 years ago now. I would never be able to do a completely new, very complicated mechanical design in a parametric application - I need unencumbered cut /paste /delete for radical last minute alterations all the way to the design end without any unnecessary hinderances with simple engineering geometry interrogations and selections for component or assembly or document wide collections - I don't use Plasticity for that.
Use the right tools for the job in hand. Surface creation / blending , Plasticity is exceptional and Studio is becoming unbelievable for the price.
I too have years of experience in the parametric world with Catia... If I had to choose between Catia and Plasticity, I'd select Plasticity in most cases because its just so much quicker to get from a to b. For me it falls down when having to deal with complex mechanisms.
First I missed in Plasticity some features from Moi3D a bit, but Nick asked me, what I needed and he try to realised it in Plasticity, today it feels like a "nextgen Moi3D"
The Legend has spoken out! :)
I find it weird that people say "i left" software... it's not like you're only allowed to use one piece of software on you machine
This feels like misinterpreting the intended use case of Plasticity a bit. I don't think it was intended to be a competitor to parametric packages like Fusion, rather it was a way to blend the modelling features of NURBS with the flexibility of something like Blender. It's always been billed as "CAD for artists". I'd definitely still make mechanical models like your dock in a parametric package. But for bashing out concept 3D work or visualisation models Plasticity is more flexible.
Plasticity is a competitor to Rhino and MOI.
I don't think he is misinterpreting the use case; rather one doesn't know exactly what type of software one needs until one is confronted with inherent limitations a little too often.
Yes, I am also a user of blender grid modeling, and I prefer the Plasticity of curves to a user of cad and 3d printing or industrial design as a way of reducing my work in blender
Thanks for your wonderful insight about Plasticity compared to Fusion. Fusion is great as it combines both parametric CAD with freeform design (T-spline).
good on ya for making another video instead of just moving on without updating. i watched the first video a while back when i was thinking about it and i anticipated you might have to come back.
I’m sure Plasticity will update with time to allow for exactly what you’re missing. I think the downsides far outweigh the flipside costs, especially annually.
Is there any option to add the Sheet Metal feature to the Plasticity?
I just bought the Studio version without even trying one before. There was no time for that. Thr Black Friday offer was too nice though 🙂.
I'm gonna switch from my beloved Rhino to Plasticity for some part of my works...
Among these 3 downside the only critical - is history absence. And I don't think it is so dead hard to implement considering both programs uses the same engine ParaSolid. If at least some of history steps were editable it would be a huge progress. Preserving undo history across sessions would be also excellent.
I think for fusion there's a startup plan. It costs far less for like the first 3 years if I remember correctly 😊
Hey man, I'm loving your videos, and very impressed with your video quality. I know you list your camera in the description of the video, but was wondering if I could pay you for a consultation on how to make your quality youtube video, with settings, lighting etc. Even an hour of your time, I'll be happy to pay.
I use both. And Blender. Each have their use.
Hey, did you try rhino 3d? I think its very difficoult to learn, but i would rather go to rhino3d instead of fusion3d... also for the costs and rhino3d is also parametric...
Parametric isn't an issue for me as im used to 3D Builder so im used to manually saving files for each step lol
This is a really comprehensive comparison between the two different software packages. Nice work, thanks for showing all the use cases!
Of course, thank you for watching!
Anyone here have advice for the right software for my use case? I'm trying to create an accurate 3D model of a physical product I am trying to create. I need accurate materials and textures and the ability to comp it into actual photographs for mockups, marketing, and proof of concept. I've been struggling finding any videos on that specific pipeline. It's all mold-making and 3d printing.
Fusion, shapr, plasticity, onshape, solidworks..... any of them should be suitable to create an accurate 3D model. As far as material, textures, and mockups, that is best done in Blender or the Autodesk equivalent. Hope this helps.
Why not try solid edge it comes with keyshot ? I'm also eager to try it
Can someone please telll me what to do to become a "pro" in for example fusion? In my job i woek with solodworks and i can use it this far for what we want to peoduce. But how to become a real specialist in the software?
Take simple objects and build them and slowly build more complex objects.
And a lot of RUclips ;)
try to copy evereyday objects around you, pen, cups, books, whatever, and also a lot of youtube. i find that cad is like any other skill, it needs to be trained, but also maintained!
All big CAD-Programs cost wether monthly or annualy a lot of money and there is no one time purchase option. I used the free Student Version of Inventor by Autodesk, but I finished school and now I need an affordible CAD. I would pay Like 500-600$ but only onetime and not annualy
why not design the parts on Plasticity and then upload it to a different CAD Software that has parametric?
It wouldn't be as easy to edit, unfortunately. Creating it from the start in parametric software gives you way more flexibility.
@@kevbot. Interesting. What ever helps your projects, do whats best for you.
What sites are you planning to sell your products?
How would Autodesk know how much you are making off your digital files your selling?
well, it's called honesty, some of us does actually care.
@@lilypower That's not what I was getting at. I meant, do they track somehow? That's what I was asking. I don't use it, was just wondering. It's too hard for me.
is it possible to design in fusion and import in plasticity for that $1000 revenue issue?
Have you considered Rhino? Howndoes it compare?
I have not tried rhino yet but I do know plasticity and rhino both have xnurbs which is nice to see 👌
Rhino is king for artistic stuff like jewelry and product design. Not as great for mechanical/engineering. But the price may be icky.
I've used rhino years ago and it was good but no parametric control, no history. I think like an engineer and prefer precise control and history for editing. Today rhino may be different so I will likely give it a shot.
Rhino has some of the best curve/spline tools out there. But it is no where as stable with complex geometry as plasticity is. One thing I really want from Plasticity is to export vector AI or SVG. The only way to do it currently is in a STEP, and 3ds Max does not import splines from STEP files. So I end up importing to Rhino just to export the AI to then import into 3ds Max or to create a texture in Illustrator. Exporting local pivots is non existent, and there's no instancing of parts. Two things Rhino can do. So if I import a file that also has a bunch of screws into 3ds Max from Rhino, each screw is a direct instance of all the others. Apply the material to one and they all get it. Or if you want to rotate them on their local axis, it just works. With Plasticity, I have to create the instances and pivots after exporting into other software, which is a huge waste of time.
I've been using Ansys SpaceClaim for nearly 10 years to design model car kits and been miserable at $1250/year! I'm looking at Plasticity to replace it. I tried Fusion and found it clunky and hard to use. Yeah, Plasticity works differently, some tools I wish I had, but looks like it's going to work for what I do.
It's definitely worth a try, but if you end up hating it, shapr3d is great too.
Problem is, fusion is too expensive if you don’t earn money with it.
I trust and support plasticity and guess it will be fanatic over year’s. My goto is shapr3D and it changes a lot over time. Has a timeline now I.e. and is kinda what you are searching. It cost not much annually and supports many OS.
Fusion is free if you don’t make money with it. Has been for yrs and yrs, like 10 yrs for me. The few things limited to pay versions are truly something you should be paying for.
I agree, fusion is definitely too expensive and I prefer Shapr3d also compared to fusion.
@@Thomllama but where to download the free version ?
Very very big Kudos to KevBot for being honest. Something you may not come across the interwebs too often.
Thank you!
Plasticity is CAD for artist, it make sens for some workflows like concept design, video game etc. I get your point but the thing is plasticity was never created to do what fusion or other CAD tools do
glad i found this channel,i was really down right now,i just want to upgrade my knowledge in designing softwares,my course give me a pain in ass here in my country,no construction company is interest on it,theres a few but too far..im glad i see this
Thank you for sharing!
what about shapr3d ?
is plasticity also cloud based like fusion?
Naw, it is a "physical" app that will be installed on your PC and you can work offline.
OnShape?
Thanks for the video, I'm likely going to go for Plasticity as a long term Blender user. I used to Maya back in late 2000s and am sick of poly modeling for 3D printing applications. I do miss Fusion as well, and wish it was competitive to these other softwares.
Instead we get "enshittification" of things these days.
Fusion is for engineers and plasticity is for designers. Low cost Alternative to fusion is Alibre and NOT plasticity
I second that.
I third that, ive switched to Alibre due to the cost of Fusion
How much does that cost?
@@eaman11 their perpetual license starts from 199 to 1999. Depending on version. Subscription starts from 100 to 500 per year
@@eaman11 It's like $150 for the lowest tier and has other pro versions that start at like $700 and go to $1700 or so. No subscriptions. The cheap one definitely isn't crap but it'll irritate people who want to make complex contours easier than it already does. But even the cheap one is better than Fusion in my opinion for modeling.
The cross sectional analysis sounds like something you should file a feature request for. Other features i don't know, might be straying a little far from fundamental design goal of the software, but maybe worth a gentle question to developer?
Yeah hopefully the developers will take note and implement the sectional analysis. That would be awesome.
I agree. Just as a tip - a week after your post, nickkallen1 (the founder of Plasticity, I presume) posted this in the comment section here (quote): "We are working on section analysis and curvature combs for the next release". So, that sounds promising.
Fusion 360 has free personal subscription, no? Why not to use it?
FreeCAD?
Hope they will make some parametric features this year)
That would be awesome.
Smart guy 😂
Love to hear both PRO/CON of Fusion/Plasticity. Not just some mindless guy that keep talking only good things about one to push you into buying.
There are also Shapr3d, OnShape, BricsCAD... on the table beside those.
I think a lot of fusions performance issues come from the parametric timeline. Turn off design history and suddenly it becomes a different beast!
I would die without parametric modeling lol
@@ahsanahmedbhaila 😄
As a programmer - yes
@@vim55k me to
Yah I dunno. I feel like people "think" surface modeling is easier, but parametric modeling is so much easier in the long run.
Someone needs a video to show how you move around and the individual commands by the first letter. That way you can slide along the video until you find what you need.
The most ridiculous thing about Fusion is, that on my M1 MacBook Pro the viewport runs at like 12fps or something by default, not only in complex projects.
It’s not even natively supporting Apple Silicon yet.
I know I know the industry mainly uses windows, but still offering that Mac Version while charging 600$ per year is kinda ridiculous imho…
And yes it works, but it’s definitely not a joy, especially not once you’ve navigated within Shapr3d or Plasticity.
Feature wise I have to say I really liked Fusion 360 so far, but experience wise not really. It’s surely a thing of getting used to.
I wish Shaper3D would be a bit more affordable, it would probably be the sweet spot of both worlds😊
Fusion to Plasticity is the new Solidworks to Fusion.
So how much Autodesk have paid you? ;)
I would switch to plasticity in an instant if it had sheet metal module. Thats the only thing keeping me with fusion.
do you think your better than us that would not pay anything for fusion until the document limit became too much to bear.
If you doing 3d modeling as a job then yes I understand people who need to pay to get what they need plus the help from the company you sub to. For me its just a passion so I use Blender, Plasticity and Sculptris, so all ive paid for is Plasticity as a 1 off, Just don't throw all your eggs in one basket if your not making money from it like myself.
i literally just watch a video on plasticity about using the history to go back to your shapes/edits and change them and then ur overall part adapts to the change… maybe 4 months ago you couldnt?
It is not a parametic based modeler - all shapes need modifying independently. There are no parametric links and no editable history to insert alterations.
Has anyone tried solid edge ?
I actually dreamed of you coming back to fusion 360😢. Seriously months ago.
Really! That's crazy! Haha
@@kevbot. I'm happy for you. Presently Blender has a feature for NURMBS modelling. I believe it will get better overtime. Blender is free. I use fusion 360 & blender
Yeah, Plasticity is great and fun for things like display models or wargaming terrain, but for parts that are meant to be connected to something else I prefer Fusion.
So if I want updates, I have to pay $149 every year. What's the difference?
*Edit: I just realized that the renew costs $100 + tax. But it's still technically an "annual subscription". Also, I can't renew years later, it's described in the faq: "You can renew from two months before and to four months after the expiration of your maintenance contract."
Surface modeling in P is still significantly better than F.
P unlike Rhino has also fantastic direct modeling abilities making the history not always that needed.
The parametric system is great for some basic designs but then moment the design gets to complex it will slow you down too.
That’s why I often bake the history and create static models which will be easier to adjust.
Fusion slow downs are far and few between if your internet is fast and your computer runs clean.
yeah I absolutely 100% have to have parametric.
A few monts ago this man motivated for Plasticity now he is saying that was a mistake. This is why you should not believe on social media.
A agree. Always take things worth a grain of salt and get multiple opinions. I will also say this video was made to point out the drawbacks of plasticity; I still use it daily to create my designs.
I get the price argument... no one likes to pay a lot for anything. In my experience, there are pro's and con's to all software and the more expensive variant is frequently not better. One point of view that is missing in most of these discussions is that if you are using this software in support of your own [small] business, you should be writing that cost off as a business expense. If you are, then you can make your choice based on which is best for your use case, and place less emphasis on the cost. Just sayin....
Puh the point of Fusion is too its good for Teams.
you are missing the best parametric CAD software: Solidworks
Solidworks is financially out of reach for a hobbyist or “maker” level of usage. A license is substantially more expensive than the packages he’s evaluated in his videos.
@@itslow there is a makers version that is about $50/year for the desktop software
@@Dooo00-jp7eiUnfortunately, the native files from the makers version can’t be opened by the full versions (academic and professional). Not sure if the maker version can open full version SLDPRT or SLDASM files. You could of course export to a neutral format like STEP, but then you lose the parameterization.
You couldnt live with your own failure... where did that bring you? Back to me. -fusion the amazing goat pilled chad
I'm not using Fusion lol
Plasticity sounds like a souped up Tinkercad.
@@UnCoolDad Yeah, it's a lot of fun
Intersection preview - move boolean object in Blender
Increase a hole size - scale boolean object in blender
Alternatively use Cad plug-in for blender. Blender is superior 🤣
You sure know what you are talking about ;)
Fusion have only 1 problem - need powerful hardware((
No kidding, i watched that video and knew you would eventually have to go back, 360 is a real cad program. The good thing is you got a lot of views for that video. I cant imagine prototyping without parametric. I use analysis in all designs. Larry
I already thought it was a huge mistake...
Can you not design something in fusion under one company name. Then sell the STL to another company under a different name for $1? Or have your partner create a fusion account and have them sell you the STL files for $1?
bro you look like if i bought macklemore at the dollar tree
Thank you! 😄
Nah, he looks more like Macklemore at the Thrift Shop
just onshape.
both need. ok
I hear Plasticity will not import svg. Deal breaker right there.
I believe they just updated Plasticity to be able to import SVGs, I haven't tried it out yet though.
thank you for tell me about plasticity
No problem!
a vere si et decideixes JA , no ?
I've already decided.
Welcome to using 3D design software. None of them are going to do everything perfectly.
platicity is garbage with added parasolid for marketing
Wrong, Plasticity is based on the Parasolid kernel, this is not a "add". The added stuff is xNurbs, and this is very mighty for surfaces.
Touch of the tism is strong
Why a mistake? Did you leave Fusion behind in another country or something? Stop being so dramatic. Just open Fusion and start designing.
lol
Fusion for start-ups license ..go read about it dude. ffs
no parametric? Blender is free.
not CAD
@@FlowerPower3000 not (C)onmputer (A)ided (D)esign?
I would stay here and split hairs with you but actually have exciting things to be doing.