REAL ENGINEER tries Fusion 360 for the first time
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Many have asked me what the best 3D modeling software is to use and I have always responded, "Fusion 360" but..... I have never actually used it. Well today we fix that, watch me struggle to design the simplest thing ever.
The funny thing is, that he makes more errors than a noob, simply because he assumes, that Fusion works the same as what he is used to
Reminds me of the time I switched from Freehand to Adobe Illustrator....not fun.
yea don't like fusion either
More errors than a noob? Nah there were thing i didn’t know what he was trying to look for.
I have no knowledge or experience with 3d modeling. Its just a giant pain not knowing how to do anything and you spend hours clicking different things and still not get anywhere. Oh joy
I started/learned F360 about 5 years ago. What used to take me all day I can now do in about 15 minutes. It is so hard to do this type of video and sometimes it does a disservice to youtube viewers because they look at this and without even trying they think it will just be too hard to use. If he used it for a week or so this would have been more informative. I looked at Solidworks and dismissed it for several reasons, mainly cost but also the learning curve. But I would never purport to do a video saying that Solidworks is. Also he is looking for stuff the way Solidworks names them and F360 has a few different names for stuff. It is all about how much time you want to invest in the software you use.
At this point, with so much time invested in F360, I doubt I would switch or even try Solidworks even if it were free.
The difficult part is not learning Fusion 360 it is unlearning years of another cad's flow and methods.
@@caseyman97 did you like how KeyCreator worked over Fusion 360 or the other way around, and why?
@@strictnonconformist7369 I haven't played with fusion yet. The biggest thing i struggled with was dimensions don't define the size of the feature in key creator, its just a label basically. Multi body parts and drawings were hard for me to figure out (and I ended up getting layed off before I did figure it out). There are people I work with at my current job that swear by key creator for model editing because you don't have to worry about parent/child relationships and all of that jazz. I'd say if you have no CAD experience, either one. If you learned to parametric model (dims define size, parent/child relationships etc.), I'd go with fusion.
I started from Fusion and am learning NX and Solidworks. It’s so hard. Lmao Fusion was so easy for me to understand and use but now I can’t even extrude stuff on NX.
I spent 2 years learning Blender basics, as I used SketchUp Pro 7 years before and it was my only 3D software. I actually had to wait for Blender 2.8 update to come, since everything before 2.8 was utterly awful and unnecessarily overcomplicated.
I learned Autodesk Inventor first. Learning fusion feels like a step backwards. I would take Inventor any day.
Solidworks was designed with a 'bottom up' design methodology, while Fusion360 was designed with a 'top down' design methodology in mind. As a result the CAD approach to making something is totally different. For me, as soon as I accepted that there is a Solidworks way to do something and that Fusion360 might have a different way to design that same part, it helped a lot.
You can do top down and bottom up design in solidworks and Inventor very well... it's your choice. I find Fusion clunky and limiting after those two softwares.
@@Mtaalas creating a top down design in Solidworks is the clunkiest workflow ever. Inventor is better and a bit more similar to fusion360. Each 3d cad software comes with its own work flow.
I just started using F360 for some 3D printing stuff. By "bottom up", are you referring to making the object physically? As in, starting from the base?
When you open “new design” that means you are opening an assembly. First thing you do is start with a component and each new part inside your assembly will need to be a new component. Joint each component together and you completed your assembly
Subtitle of this Video: ConFusion360 😄
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"can i not just save it to explorer?"
*cries in a360*
What is a360?
I assume autodesk 360?
The cloud was difficult to use at first but I'm not upset i don't have to manage the files anymore. It was always super cumbersome trying to find stuff i organized where fusion kind of guides your hand.
Also the first time you just log in from somewhere world's away or being able to share just a link is absolute 2120 stuff.
I wanted to try Solidworks, but when I asked them for a licence, they quoted me $20,000... I couldn't get the student licence and they didn't want to help me out. Happily been using fusion for two years now and it still has more features in it than I'll probably ever learn.
Thats my issue with Catia. I use it daily at work. I tried getting a license for my home and yea, your outta your freakin mind lol... Trying to use 2 diff programs daily for CAD can become a bit confusing. Trying to do something and its not working and realize, duh im not at home or vise versa.
You got the worst quote in history if they wanted $20,000 for it. You can get a basic Catia license for that amount..
@@aeywyn5230 It's because I was going to use it to make models I will be selling. They wanted to charge me for their business plan for up to 5 employees.... Wouldn't budge on it, so stuck to fusion.
I recommend Alibre ( I think Atom is the individual/hobbiest license). I know Fusion is free, but trying to make everything cloud based is just disgusting. Coming from a Creo/ProE background I found fusion just as annoying for many of the same reasons he did.
I don’t know where you got your quote, but that’s ludicrous. Basic SolidWorks is $4,000.-. I use SolidWorks Premium for work and I believe it runs about $9,000 at the moment.
This was extremely painful to watch.
For those curious, Fusion 360 does have assemblies (haven't used SolidWorks, but I assume it's similar). He has the pane collapsed for these. You build it out with components which can have sub-components (and so fourth). Each component can be linked (e.g. separate file, mirrored) or part of one file. He may have found it, as he does have the pane open later in the video.
There's some great RUclipsrs (Lars Christiansen and Tyler Beck) that specialize in F360 tutorial videos. It's worth learning this workflow because it's used in other parts of the program like Drawings, Animation, Simulation/Physics, and automatic B.O.M. takeoffs.
In Solidworks, it's two completely separate parts of the program for parts and assemblies, works almost like 2 programs.
@@techienate in Fusion you can also work like that. Or work with everything in one document.
I think the Fusion lingo is Body and Component, and you can stack Components.
@@ScottMoyse I really want to learn fusion sometime. At the moment, I'm only using my student version of Solidworks.
The only thing I dislike about Fusion is the assembly environment. It has an apparent inability to mate things in space, like you can in Inventor/Solidworks, among other mates (not joints) Fusion cannot do.
One example: Designing a robot. I have a telescoping arm. I know what angle the arm needs to be relative to the base. I know how far away from the base I want it to be. I want to put it there in space, then design the rest of the system to hold it where it needs to sit. Three mates in Inventor/Solidworks, maybe two if I want it to slide. Fusion can't do it, because you can't do angular mates. Oh, and if I want that arm to actually telescope, Fusion doesn't like to do that, and the parts flip endlessly and do crazy things like flipping the mate 180 degrees.
I get that they want to push you towards joints, but when you don't know what the thing needs to look like, and are figuring it out based on putting elements in space where they need to be first, sometimes joints just don't work.
I can't complain too much for free, though. It sure beats Onshape.
When learning 3D cad software (like Fusion 360) I found it useful to pick random objects from Thingiverse and try to replicate them. This pushes you outside your comfort zone and makes you do lots of "there must be a way to do that, what is it?" moments. Do one a night for a month and it's surprising the how much you learn.
Yea thats what I do. I pick random objects around the house, sketch them in 2 or 3 views, and then design them on fusion 360. It's good practice like u said
brilliant. i shall do this
I work at a yacht company. I use inventor, fusion360, and rhino everyday. Each of them can pretty much do the exact same things, but each one is better for specific tasks then other ones. I swap out all day. For robotics/mechanical designs inventor and solid works takes the cake. For organic design/product design, Fusion and Rhino are the best!
As an Autodesk Certified Specialist with a focus on Fusion 360, I appreciate its distinctive approach to design. Unlike traditional assemblies, Fusion 360 employs a component and part system, allowing for greater flexibility. Components can encompass sub-components, offering a more versatile structure compared to CAD counterparts like SOLIDWORKS or Inventor.
This methodology simplifies the design process and collaboration by enabling easy reuse of parts with their components. The absence of assembly complexities interacting with one another streamlines the application of constraints. This not only enhances efficiency but also contributes to a more straightforward workflow.
It's worth noting that when dealing with substantial industrial assemblies, both Inventor and SOLIDWORKS hold an advantage. They allow for the export of comprehensive part lists to Excel sheets, including part numbers and associated data such as web links and cost calculations. This feature proves particularly beneficial for managing large-scale projects and enhancing traceability.
Man, of all the modelling software, i love Inventor the most. I use solidworks for work, but all the built in shortcuts, and sketch usability features, that inventor has makes it my fav. Plus the direct editing in inventor blows solidworks out of the water
Yeah inventor is still by far the best
Once you learn it, you could do that in less actions than in solidworks
Yeah! I was watching this shaking my head, at first. Then remembering my first attempts to use it without having previously fumbled through what does and doesn't work smoothly with Fusion360 before. Its a different animal!
You sir get a upvote, I'm a solidworks user. I hate fusion
@@AliasBane I think you need to re-read what they said haha
@@AliasBane any tool needs learning. If you take a mallet and expect to use it like a hammer, you're gonna have a bad time.
@@Validole if you take a baby and use it like a hammer youll have a great time!
I have a B.S. in ME, but I ended up with my PE in Civil as a bridge designer. I learned Solidworks 16 years ago but haven't used it since. I've mostly used MicroStation since then, but had to start re-learning AutoCAD for work a few years ago. It has not been an easy transition. I've more recently been trying to learn Fusion360 for designing my own RC car parts and it also has not been an easy task. I remember Solidworks being so intuitive and easy to learn and I felt the same way about MicroStation for Civil, but it seems to me like AutoDesk programs are easy if that's all you've ever known, and frustratingly difficult if you're coming from anything else (and vice versa). I'll get there with 360 though because I am not paying for a Solidworks license just to make a few plastic parts. Great Video by the way.
Challenge: try designing something with FreeCAD or OpenSCAD next.
I second that request
Hear hear
Microsoft 3D Builder
Try CAD with Blender.. that is fun.
@@tigre3droyce771 I wish the mechanical blender project was more advanced, having a good open-source CAD would be awesome.
I’m not the best at CAD, but I use Fusion 360 for programming my CNC machines
One of the nice things is the whole cloud system, you can save a project in Fusion, and then you’re able to open it on any computer anywhere as long as it has Fusion.
The annoyance of relearning that you captured is the exact feeling when a computer User who's familiar with one OS tries a different one. They instantly think the OS is bad because it's not what they know.
"A bit of Googling later... that took way longer than it should have..." That is basically the tagline for Fusion 360.
Thank God!!
I’ve used Solidworks, Mastercam, and Partmaker for over a decade. Self taught on all of them, and Fusion 360 is THE WORST!!
I really thought I was losing it!
Fusion is so cool once you know some of the tools and functions to make your own workflow. Like the wheel slot/indent, I would do by making a midplane to the cube and then doing a symmetrical extrusion to the required dimensions.
Not gonna lie, I learned how to use construction lines and offset planes in this video. I typically "eyeball it" so it looks even. Now I can make them symmetrical and to a specific offset. I was looking to make a solid gridfinity 2x5 with a cylindrical cutout to hold my butane fuel and you helped me do that. Thanks, man. (and yes I realize it is a 2-year-old video...but that's the beauty of the internet.
What's a "Real Engineer" ?
One with the academic credentials to show for? In the US I think you even have to be licensed to call yourself a professional engineer, and even just engineer (but that might just be the case in some states. I'm not a US citizen, just a real engineer in another country).
Used it a few years back, and didn't like it, tried it again and thought it was improved but again didn't like it, returned earlier this year and now it's become mature enough that I actually really like it.
Don't worry, it still has plenty of frustration left in it
This is like when a PhotoShop pro try's (sic) to use GIMP.
as a GIMP user i know photoshop is better.......as a solidworks user i know fusion 360 is crap.
Learning curve comes with every program. Often the issue is mostly in users, missing an workflow, how to accomplish a task and what task at all.
@@MrTex263
if your workflow isnt intuitive, its a bad workflow. Things should be made to adapt to us, not so that we have to adapt to them.
Cars, motorbikes and buildings are all made around the concept of a human. They are not made for dogs, or elephants.
Sure you may be able to learn how to use it but id call that wasting time.
Solidworks is intuitive, fusion 360 and most free programs are not and thats why solidworks is so expensive, because you dont have to waste time in unintuitive things which take more time than what they should.
Imagine making stuff in OpenSCAD......sure "you just have to learn the workflow" but no one thats actually serious about technical 3D design will tell you OpenSCAD isnt shit and shouldnt exist.
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@@laharl2k not really. As someone who has glancing experience with both, the intuitiveness is all down to what you're used to.
Solidworks is a professional tool, with lots of collaboration management features and domain-specific workflows. Fusion 360 has a different target market, giving a somewhat slimmer feature set but trying to make the whole chain from sketch to CAM intuitive to first-timers. It's like comparing a hammer and a mallet: same basic thing with different goals and resulting different design.
G'day
I'm a complete newbie with 3D CAD software.
I got Fusion 360 and the learning curve was huge.
My teacher was RUclips and I could learn what I wanted by watching these talented people.
You should search 'STI to solid STi' and just by doing a few simple things, you can print your STI file without any meshing programmes pri going to your slicer.
HappyCADmodeling
Greg
Dude for real! Trying to learn a new program when you're used to a different one is extremely annoying.
Been using solidworks for 4 years it's a little tricky learning fusion 😂
Having your toolset _built_ is really important for engineers. It takes a lot longer to do something the first time than it takes to do it the third or fourth.
In fusion to "save it" to your computer like u do in solidworks u have to export it, or u can save it locally in fusion with cash, so u don't need the internet connection to pull it from the cloud, fusion is great for organizing and u make folders and just save it in there
My first experiences with Fusion 360 were about the same, also coming from solidworks. I ended up using FreeCAD instead
Also, I work as a software consultant and ABB was a client I was at for about 9 months, pretty cool company
you are the real deal mate, FreeCad is a class of it's own, while Fusion360 is just a watred down Inventor.
I've been using Freecad for some time now for occasional moddeling. Only the realthunder branch is really usable. But that version is nice for quickly making parts.
LOL YOU MADE THIS LOOK SO HARD.... I use Fusion 360 daily and the stuff you were having issues with are easy things but I can see how using a different program makes it harder to find because you are use to finding things in a certain space.
and by a specific name/term, that throws people off alot... MS Office use to move stuff around and rename it, i kid not, 100% to sell training to corporations for their employees on the new versions of office... even those that had no features added, just some UI changes...
i can relate to his issues moving from one app to another or hell... one motherboard bios/uefi vs another's, when the vast majority are all mist AMI UEFI bios today, and AWARD bios for most older boards... (though i had a few with dr.mos chips that unlocked the full abilities of boards that default bios limited them to stock use with no support for some cpu's... )
he did make it look harder then it should have been...
but i want to see somebody whos never used SW but whos a pro with 360, try and do this project in SW... (the amusement i get from watching people struggle is... a bit unhealthy at times...but when they torture themselves... for clicks/bucks... i mean... i figure its ok to be amused.. )
@@AshenTechDotCom Yeah F360 has moved stuff in the recent times that makes me hunt. I'm not a PRO at F360 but I would love to try it just don't have a few $1000 laying around vs $500 for Fuson. I use to have a Student eidition when I was in college but dont have it anymore
IME fusion 360 feels like a gimped version of Inventor. I have high hopes for FreeCAD in the future for a better alternative.
Ugh, FreeCAD has ways to go until it matches Fusion, unfortunately. I am using Linux, but ofc Autodesk does not include a Linux version of anything. At the time, FreeCAD is still way too complicated and cluttered to be efficiently used by beginners, which means when I need fast designs, I use SketchUp in a browser, and if there is something serious, I swap to windows and do it in Fusion.
I teach CAD in a small college. Fusion 360 does feel like a gimped version of Inventor. I have also used Inventor, ProE/Creo, Solidworks and a few others. Fusion is OK for small work. Since it is currently free for our students, I suggest that they use it for their 3D models. And, if they have used no other CAD, they do pick it up fast. But, there is a limit to number of items and complexity where Inventor pretty much is limited by power of your computer. I found that switching from Inventor to Fusion is most difficult because of how alignment and assembly are so different. As someone proficient in Inventor, I was still looking for ways to do simple tasks for over a year in Fusion. As far as Solidworks is concerned, they have a new version coming out for students in May and I am going to seriously look at it. In the past, it did not take me long to switch from Inventor to Fusion. In a couple of weeks with Fusion I can have students model the classroom in 3D. In a couple of weeks with Solidworks, I can have the students model the classroom in 3D and prepare a video of the airflow after one of the students passes gas in the back of the classroom. (Now watch, this will probably become a standard lesson for all Solidworks classes)
exactly! FreeCAD might even handle everything I want to do, but I get list in documentation, since a lot of what is out there seems to be for old versions and doesn't apply. A sign FreeCAD is surely growing into something more, but frustrating for someone like me that hasn't been along for the ride throughout FreeCAD's history.
@@vincentguttmann2231 I spent about a week to get Fusion running via WINE and then AutoDesk updated.. and it no longer worked, so back to windows for Fusion360 here, too.
@@snorky2k521 Indeed, and I don't doubt any of your points. But outside of academia, what hobbiest can possibly afford licenses for Inventor and Solidworks?
Now it's time to try the next #1 CAD: Onshape! 💪
For those of you who already know SolidWorks pretty well and want to be able to access it outside of the company/school that you work at, get an EAA membership. It's currently $40 per year and includes a license for SolidWorks 2020, minus a lot of the simulation stuff.
I tried learning F360 for home projects and kept finding myself frustrated trying to do things that are natural to me in SW. After finding out about this deal, I was thrilled, $40 per year for a SolidWorks license (plus a cool magazine about experimental aircraft!) is a steal!
I have never used a CAD software and wanted to try it out. Got Fusion360 a couple weeks ago and I am learning the basics. It is very difficult to learn, but I am having fun trying and it is exciting to see the finished product! Now I just need a 3D printer!
I needed a 3D modeling software for our company and Fusion 360 was the very best option. I am an electronics designer and the idea was to have some software that would alow us to export rough model to another company. We provide basics (design idea, shape and size of PCB, required mount locations, cable paths, etc.), they do the final design, preparations for production (forms for injection molding, data for parts made out of sheet metal) and they produce them. At the beginning, I tried to buy solidworks, but they asked for almost 20 000€, Fusion was about 380€/year (1 license, which is all we needed).
This video is awesome man. I am a mechanical engineering student and took a solidworks class last semester. I purchased a 3d printer and I’ve been hearing fusion 360 is the best so I’ve been wanting to learn and this video is exactly how I expected my experience to go haha. I took the cswp exam and passed so I’m pretty decent at solidworks stuff hopefully with time I get good at 360 aswell, great video!
"I work in an engineering firm called ABB" , F-ing ABB it's soo Awesome and COOL that I can't even describe it DUDE, sooooo Awesome i really want to work there after finish my university
What?
@@mrkv4k what what ?
If you really want, you will! Good luck and try hard!
Assemblies are just parts with subcomponents. You should have a tree on the left side a la solidworks, where you can copy/paste objects (including multiples).
You also don't need offset planes, you can do a sketch on the end face then offset the extrusion a certain distance to start the cut further inwards.
I was used to Solidworks, at first I was lost : no assembly distinct from part building, etc. But with time we discover how to do things and now I like Fusion 360.
Make this a series :D teach us senpai :D
If you want to learn Fusion 360, look up "Fusion 360 Tutorial for Absolute Beginners" by Lars Christensen on RUclips. 60 minutes and you'll be good to go.
"Can you relax for a moment" he says to the chillest retriever I have ever seen.
I wish I could have introduced you to my Golden Retriever Kilo "relax" didn't exist in that doggos vocabulary. Even if you told him to sit, he damn near vibrated at the frequency of hummingbird wings. He was like that to the moment he had to be put down, even lost the use of one of his paws due to cancer, and didn't let him slow down.
Dogs really are the best of us.
You should try Onshape. I learned a little Inventor back in college but have worked almost exclusively using Solidworks. At home I tried Fusion360 but didn't care much for it so I tried Onshape and it is similar to Solidworks except for the mates. And of course it is also free.
Fun to see solid works professional trying fusion360! :)
I have not tried assemblies, but they are in Fusion360, but a bit different. You use components in the same main document, or insert others into it.
Tbh, i'd move over to Solid Works but i cannot justify the thousands it costs.
Dude, fusion 360 works quite different from parametric cad software that you build your assembly from the ground up. Although you can link other parts made elsewhere (insert derive) you don't really have to export files.
Yeah, the "do all the things in the (Autodesk) Cloud (R)(C)" part of Fusion is honestly how it's able to let you build complex systems without shelling out thousands of dollars for software, and it's also a pain in the butt because you have to learn how to get parts to interact in Fusion.
My son (28 yrs. old) is a mechanical engineer and was trained in Solidworks in college, but uses Inventor at work designing high-speed processing machines. He did go out to Las Vegas to the Autodesk convention and got his certification from them, but he did say that he did the worst on the Fuson 360 part of the desk. Last week I had him try his luck with FreeCadd that I use when I design for my 3d printed, and I was amazed how quickly he picked up FreeCadd.
From a Solidworks background, Onshape is much more intuitive.
Fusion 360 is actually much simpler to learn than Solidworks or Catia...except if you already know SW or Catia. In contrary to what you said, Fusion supports assemblies: any model file can store multiple parts (you can directly build parts in relation to others in the assembly) and links to external parts as well. It is also easy to combine different kind of modeling methods in Fusion. Its biggest weakness wrt the big boys is the mechanical drawing module and the lack of a basic component library. Its strong points are free form modeling, generative design and CAM preprocessing in my opinion.
From a beginner's POV, Fusion 360 is a god-send, because it is not overly complicated out of the box. I know there are other, more advanced stuff, but to begin it is great. Especially if the only non-accurate modeling/designing I've done is in Blender, and god that is a nightmare by comparison.
Work just started in internal/stateside R&D Dept. They started with us using OnShape. I have 'Boot Camp' Monday. I have experience with SketchUp and a little Fusion for 3d printing at home. I've been self learning for a bit now and it feels like they took good ideas from SolidWorks and Fusion and put them in the cloud. Been easy so far. I'm interested in the 3d mouse...
Automotive engineer here, NX is my favorite by far!
Hahaha, I'm in engineering in ABB as well in the ELIP division and we never had access to Solidworks until recently when we were told we had seats in it and it was being allowed. Even before my time there, they were strictly Autodesk softwares and ProE or Creo whatever it is now. Wish they would approve Solidworks for our plant sooner rather than later.
the main competitor to SolidWorks is autodesk's Inventor. I had no idea that F360 was free though, I will probably check it out soon enough.
I generally suggest Onshape, especially if the person im suggesting it to is just looking for a free program similar to solidworks.
I probably would've used onshape if it wasn't for the part where all your files are publicly available even if u want it or not...
I understand your pain. I'm a mechanical engineer as well and I was used to using stratasys 3D printers. Now I work at a place where I'm trying to get a Creatbot F430 to print high temperature materials with designs that are a lot more complicated than we designed for our Fortus 400 MC machines with Ultem 9085. I used the Dimension 1200 ES the most because that's what we used for prototypes in ABS.
Love the video you made me smile because I as a veteran SolidWorks user had the same experience. For quick simple stuff Fusion is ok but Assembly work it falls short especially when compared to mates in SolidWorks.
In settings you can change the navigation method to match Solidworks to help ease the transition.
I came from AutoCAD and 3DS many years ago and looking for free stuff for 3D printing design I went to SketchUp first; I couldn't work it out at all. I then tried TinkerCAD and found it fairly intuitive. Found the positive and negative space extrudes strange, but now it makes sense. I lasted a few weeks and a few models later before hitting the limitations and found Fusion. This is definitely a step up and after TinkerCAD it was really intuitive. I've been using it for 3 years and I'm still learning new ways of doing things. One of the big features is the editable design history, which is great for tweaking, but my old slow computer couldn't handle the reprocessing so I now ditch it. I bought a license last year and it irks me that I'm paying for so much functionality that I will never use. I wish they would come up with a less-limited option than free personal, but doesn't include the manufacturing, sheet metal and electronics components for a cheaper price.
I also use ZBrush Core and Blender, but switching between all the interfaces and navigation can be really confusing.
i tried to get into 3d moddeling with blender. i tried for a few days and all i can say is don't use it if you're a begginer, but if you manage to learn stuff with it, you might be a prodigy or something.
every other alternative i could find on the first result of a google search showed paid software and blender was the only free program.
I still miss Schlumberger's CAD/CAM software on a VAXStation 3100 running VMS. It was the most efficient CAD/CAM software I've ever used.
I have hundreds of hours in both Solidworks and Fusion. They are very different and your Solidworks experience definitely made learning Fusion harder. I generally make simple quick parts and assemblies in Fusion and more complex designs in Solidworks because Solidworks is a lot more performant especially when it comes to large feature trees but assemblies are more convenient in Fusion because they can all be held in a single file. However, that being said, anything that can be made in Solidworks can be made in Fusion if you are ok with being annoyed by very large complex features crashing your program and less versatility in certain features (it may take several features to do what a single feature can in Solidworks)
Tries
Siemens NX seems to be the industry standard for solid modelling, Catia is its surface modelling counterpart
Fusion 360: Forget EVERYTHING you know about assemblies, you won't need them here.
I spent ages using Inventor, and it still made my head hurt how different Fusion 360 was. I initially only used 360 for the CAM side of things, but losing my educational version of Inventor, it was 360 or nothing so I begrudgingly worked it out 😆
I believe Marble Machine X is designed in Fusion 360. I'm sure it could handle anything you could throw at it. ;)
Martin did have some trouble with his giant assembly. He had to have a chat with the developers to get a workaround. Mostly creating new parts in the correct position and orientation in 3D space so that they won't have to move to the new location in the assembly, and then using as-built joints. I think the MMX project has probably helped Autodesk make Fusion better with big assemblies, though.
I'm coming from Solidworks too. The assembly method uses totally different concepts. Solidworks adds constraints to the assembly. F360 removes constraints. I kinda have a hard time wrapping my head around that.
I use Fusion 360, under a Hobbyists license (which is free).
I like it so far, haven't tried any other programs.
If you never tried catia or solidworks (I don't know inventor), it's a good software.
Else, it feels a little disappointing. But you can have it for really cheap (free for hobbyists) and it's faster than other cheap alternatives. It tends to better with time. December upgrades made some improvements for me.
Fusion 360 is great for hobby or if you are using it with eagle
I remember back when I started 3D printing. Came from 2D cad and yep spent many hrs ranting at the monitor.
No way I can afford Solidworks.
It's taken some time and did learn RUclips was my best friend.
Have Tried to learn Freecad and soon gave up.
I just now go straight to Fusion 360 ,love the fact I can define a label and assign a value, than use the label makes it so easy to when I need to tweek a hole dimension for printing.
It's just a big learning curve learning new techniques. Still not used assembly features. And I still get frustrated at times even after 3 years.
I totally agree with the last part. Having a skillset of 3d modelling is great. I own two printers and i only print functional stuff, for me or others. It's nice that i can model and print a plastic part you can't buy anymore.
i would say, if you want to start doing 3d modeling, most 3d modelling tools work, its about finding the one you like and that works in the enviroment you work with if that is the case, because it is harder to unlearn a program you use and switch, than it is to find a program that can do the things you want.
there are exeptions, many programs use the same keybind standards today, and many programs now have the option to switch the keyboard layout. you can definately feel it if you go from something like 3Ds Max over to blender where all the tools, shortcuts and way of interacting is different. (but if you know that you are going to use something like maya or 3ds max but want a free option to learn 3D you now can start blender with the industrial standard preset, and it will be a lot easyer to switch afterwards.)
also tryed sketch up and cinema 4d, and they are all capable of theyir own thing, and sketchup even though it doesent look like it can make realistic renders with the V-ray plugin just has a diferent way of navigating and learning curve, so chose what is best for you, its mostly for preference now a days.
though i will say, from what i have experienced i would recomend some programs for some usecases:
-blender, cinema 4d, 3ds max and maya are more animation and hardsurface oriented.
-z-brush, 3d coat and mudbox are more sculpting and soft surface oriented.
-fusion 360, autocad and solidworks are more engendering oriented.
-sketchup, revit and archicad are architectural and interior focused.
I found Fusion 360 pretty easy to learn. Just wish they had a few more licence options. Im retired and cant justify a full license but would like to do 4 layer PCB and some other things not avaiable in the free version.
My biggest regret was switching from SolidWorks to F360 when it first came out. I was a college kid and it was free. Shoulda stuck with SW
LOL. I love Fusion 360. I need to learn how to do modeling in Blender.
Very few similarities. I use both to a high level. They are both amazing but I would never engineer in Blender.
Just started training in 3D modeling, fusion is fun to use.
I'm currently having so much fun with it. Rad to see I'm not the only one! Good luck with your training. Go out there and smash it. Be brilliant! You got this!
@gh0stm0nst3r6 thank you kind person, I wish the same to you.
REAL ENGINEER spells "tries" for the first time
Nomenclature is something that threw me off when I was learning fusion 360. I always thought there should be a voice recognition feature that you could speak the term you're looking for as a function and they would have put it cross reference database where will give you all of the available options that would do that function such as carve. For example there were some old modeling software that uses the term carve when removing material from a solid so if you spoke the word carve you would get extrude pulled up and with a mouse over it could show you the basic various functions of that command
I use inventor daily and even I can't stand fusion
I was highly amused by this. As a mechanical engineering student who uses both, it is quite difficult going back and forth sometimes. I feel that frustration daily. Ironically, I am actually modeling a replica of the ABB IRB 360 for my final project in my SolidWorks simulations class. I am also currently using Fusion 360 for my Senior Design class Capstone Project.
😆 This is great... the only reason I started using Fusion 360 is because my student license was expiring on Solidworks. I am not an engineer but more of a mechanic and craftsman on my free time. I needed something I could afford but also something close to Solidworks interface..
fusion sucks ass tbh, it's so cloud-reliant that it makes it underpowered on a machine that runs Solidworks and Solid Edge flawlessly. Also it crashes randomly with simple assemblies of less than 1000 parts. And Autodesk is horrible as a company, they have horrible practices and don't care about their users
i have worked with 360 for a year now and i know of 3 ways to make what he did and i could do each in less than 15 min. if he keeps with it it is better than what he uses for work! it is different and difficult to do something new but this one is well worth it! i have learned do much from lars christionsen and paul mcworter they are my favorites but there are many others i have learned from!
Lol, I know you were looking at the chocks you installed, but as you were saying “link in the description” it looked like you were looking into the description at the same time... made me chuckle :)
How do you find the time to work a full time job and still make this awesome videos? It so cool you work in ABB. We had a couple of robots from ABB in our Uni
I ran an engineering firm for DOD projects. we started with all solid Works pro, Then had to get alias, and NX Unigraphics when it was time to grow up. I love fusion for light duty stuff. I can’t think of any professional use for solid works compared to NX which are now the same price each year. solid Works is just easier to learn than actually good software.
fun to watch video...when I had my 1st design in fusion, I was really confused because the asm functions and logic
2:50 I'm glad I'm not the only one who just forever leaves my rudder pedals sitting under my desk
Im used to Vectorworks interiorcad, and try using Fusion 360 and i absolutely hate it. In my opinion it is so simplified that it is so difficult to work with because of the "smart" features...
As someone who moved from solid works to fusion. I found this video hilarious.
It's a 2 minute design in fusion 360 once you know the difference.
That also 2 minutes in any 3d modeling software, If you're used to it.
I think 90% of the hassle here was not using fusion as a top down design software the way it was intended. For anything under a few hundred parts theres usually not a reason to design parts independently, they should be designed as a single assembly file with each part its own component
That's really awesome you work for ABB. I did IRC training out in Brampton several years ago. If it wasn't for family, I'd have moved out East to work there, because... robotics.
I had only used blender before and it took me an hour to learn most of the basics of fusion360
I'm so glad you shared this video. I daily inventor and I have struggled so hard attempting to try f360. Way different workflow.
I tried it the first time and was able to only make an empty box with trapezoidal rails to slide in a drawer. It was surprisingly straight forward just took a bit to get used to the flow.
I feel your pain !! Having been retired now for over 6 years with over 20 years of using Pro/ENGINEER / Wildfire I think I could have designed that part and made an assy showing all 5 in less than 15 minutes. I think if I had no CAD experience, it would make perfect sense because I wouldn't be first thinking how I would do it in Pro/E !!
Assemblies do work, they even work with movable joints -- so I have a big 6' delta printer I designed and modeled in F360 with the movable ball joints for the magballs, so I can move the effector around and see where I can place things -- i.e spool holder, wire loom, camera mount, and so that arms wouldn't interfere with whatever I'm adding. Though the limitation on free accounts of 10 editable documents is annoying, and I pay for F360 because of other cam limitations in the free version (I have a big CNC and no rapids in free version is a very limiting). You almost have to switch your brain from working with file explorer to working with the cloud. For someone who has used F360 for years, watching you was a bit painful.
I bought my 3D printer a year ago and all I've been using to design stuff is TinkerCad. Thought I'd give fusion 360 a try and noped out pretty fast lol 😂 I'll try it again one day.
Where are the Blender people at? (Not exactly a CAD, yet it can export to .STL and has 8 digits of usable resolution if scaled appropriately.)
LMAO!!!😂😂😂😂😂
A few days ago, I was also learning Fusion 360 because I received a model in .f3d format that I needed to modify. Previously, I had been using SolidWorks for 3D modeling. I found many operations in Fusion 360 to be very confusing, such as sketch management and control, converting sketches to entities, assembly, and other functions. These operations felt very 'counterintuitive and unfamiliar' to someone like me who has been using SolidWorks for about a year. In the end, I gave up on using Fusion 360 and found the model in .step format to continue the modifications in SolidWorks.
Everyone talks about fusion 360.
I just learned how to use solidworks at college. I wanted to know how good is fusion 360 compared to solidworks.
This is a great video.