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Nah, this is way too advanced. You want a well-tested design that will feel familiar and comforting to users while under pressure, preferably without sinking too much money. A good old xbox gamepad would be perfect.
@@salimbenbouz I've watched the video twice now. I might need to attempt to make one of these. I've also been wanting to build one of your Macro Pads & try to use that with my iPad for shortcuts within my 3D Modeling apps
@@UncleJessy Awesome! I'm working on the Instructables for this one right now. It should be live tomorrow. Let me know if you have any questions and I'd be happy to assist you with the macropad as well. Cheers!
Curious. I worked on the Spaceball (predecessor to the Spacemouse). I can answer with certainty the math to convert from the the 6 led/sensors to 6DOF on the application side was difficult. The hard part was we were using some crappy embedded 8bit processors (PIC I think) and had to do fixed point matrix math on chip. Also, I felt the pain of trying to integrate with a CAD application. The problems you ran into with the macros and keyboard shortcuts were very similar to the problems I had with integration with SoftImage.
I'm not very good at math and the 3D rotations melted by brain a little .. So I gave up on it momentarily 😆 for a more simple prototype to try it first before diving into all that work. Thanks for the reassurance!
@uberthought Which model? I thought the old 2003 (as seen on K's desk in Men In Black) used strain-gauge sensors. I'm not sure what the 4000 and 5000 models use, but I thought they were similar tech, just more flexible variants. I'm actually very curious about the circuit-board on the 5000 models as I have a theory about something. In case you're wondering, I used a 2003 back in the '90s with PRO/Engineer and use a 5000-USB almost daily with FreeCAD in Linux.
@@salimbenbouz Yeah, I get it. It's been 35 years of coding since I wrote those transforms. I'd be luck to do a simple 2d translation today. TBH, most of what we did back in the day was find an algorithm in a book and implement it in C. Change book and C to stackoverflow and javascript and nothing's changed. Or..ChatGPT and rust? Maybe next year.
@@salimbenbouz What strikes me is that the product is so smooth after printing. I wonder what kind of printer was used here. That wouldn't have been a cheap thing
@@henkholdingastate Even an Ender 3-flavored printer can do smooth prints like that, once you get it dialed in for flow rates, etc. The real magic is the red paste he rubbed on and sanded off before painting. Basically auto body filler but easier to sand. With several coats of that and a very fine sanding job, and 3 light coats of primer-filler (and more sanding) followed by several coats of satin finish black paint, you can make any print look like it was injection molded. You just have to WANT to do the work. 😄
So glad you took the time to sand, fill, and finish the parts. So many people leave their 3d printed projects with layer lines in videos which makes the final product look amateruish. This is amazing, looks so clean
yeah, he did an awesome job in the post finishing. However these days I have seen 3D prints where I cannot see the layer lines anymore. I think they slice the STL at extremely small layer height. I have seen friends print them on Bambu labs printers.
Man, I saw this a few days ago, rewatched it, and couldn't stop thinking about this. Well done man. I think you should make a community for this, also draw a bigger bottom section where its possible to have more buttons and possible a led screen to a microcontroller for functions. I'm sure there are lots of programmers that would help you code a driver for this type of device. Well done !
I love how you use the 3d printer as a tool, and not the ultimate solution to world problems. It's easy to print in any colour we want and call it a day, but for best result, the freshly printed parts should always be treated as "green" and given a finish as you did. Fantastic work!
That looks so cool. It made imagine what would it feel like to wield a controller device, that is like a ball mouse, but the ball is levitated by magnets. The magnets would resist movement of the ball like the springs you have here, while allowing even more degrees of freedom, and potentially be even smoother.
Ooh, now that's an interesting idea. I can think of two issues: (1) I don't know if it's possible to rotate a magnetically levitated object off the axis of its poles. (2) It would probably spin too freely and be drifting around when you let go of it. But perhaps that could be solved if the rotating ball was actually a hollow shell which rotates around the floating magnet. You could adjust the friction to find the sweet-spot. And the position could be tracked optically.
What magnificent talent! As a space mouse user I feel like I learned something, as a tinkerer you melted my brain🤣, and as an editor you put genuine smiles in my face. You earned a sub and I can't wait to see what you do next. 🙏👊💕 Thank you for all the hard work made to look attainable.
Genius.... I can't imagine the amount of effort for this video. The project, the video editing, the quality in everything. Simply perfect. Wish you all the best mate.
@11:10 Compared to yours - The real one allows you to move, and rotate all 6 Axis of the the 3D Workspace _at the same time_ giving you a way more natural control as if you were actually holding the 3D object in your hand ( I own both the legacy SpacePilot Pro and the now SpaceMouse Enterprise that replaced it and seeing that to a single axis constrained movement made it painfully obvious ).
@@digadigado They won't even let you map keys to it (at least not last time I spoke with a rep) which is stupid. If they opened that thing up it would be such a powerful device.
Yer I have a spaceMouse double sided taped to my desk at work for CAD and CAM. I'm barely aware of using it, its like telepathy. My most used key bind is to have it lock out rotation and just have zoom and pan to zoom in very close. Without this it is too easy to have the detail you want to see up close drift off screen. Also good in wireframe mode in the CAD so as to not lose your sense of orientation. Interesting video to learn the inner workings.
That's the plan if I make another version. This is just a prototype to get a feel for it. I want to complete sensing 6 axis and try to translate that to the camera in the CAD directly if possible without hijacking the mouse.
Nice video, i know this is 9mo old, but just a thought to share, you could make a TPU sleeve, maybe in an insert, to make it more grippyer. Keep up the good work.
very solid project, well done. that being said, one thing to be aware of when using magentic sensors: if the chamber containing the magnets is exposed to the environment, ferrous particles can collect on the magnet, and if they do, they will throw off the field the sensor is detecting, causing the device to experience phantom inputs and input distortion. i live somewhere with red soil, from high iron content, and experienced the issue with a cheap flight stick, and you may experience something similar that being said, since you had the forethought to include threaded inserts, it should be possible to get back in there to clean things up if you encounter the problem, so it isn’t the end of the world, just something to be congisant of.
Really sad that you are still not acknowledged enough in my opinion. You are an incredible and creative engineer with such a high product und video quality that many many others on this platform should take a look at themselves. Very much respect
I do fully agree with your reply. When i read the overall comments above yours i couldn’t help making up a tendency for another scoop upon this device, as in the meantime this isn’t some promotional thing, and also not a commercial video. It is though a next level gadget made by a ‘professional hobbyist’ (if this only could make sense…) Well, i do know that it’s shared for free in detail. And therefore i’m grateful for that. Thank you very much for uploading.
In this and all of your other videos, it's clear that you not only have great technical skills, but also an amazing aesthetic eye. Awesome work, engineers should strive to be more well rounded like this.
I always see thumbnails/titles for videos like this (I made my own! DIY! etc.) and go, "Oh wow, he made that himself?! Man, maybe I can too!" And then they pull out computer chips from the junk drawer and start plugging things into a breadboard and I'm like, "Oh.... well, back to asking for giftcards at Christmas I guess."
The best part about yours over the 3dconnexion space mouse (I own one) is that yours doesn't have that terrible rubberized coating that inevitably degrades and starts to gum up. Your design is very sleek and functional. Love it
Congratulations! I have automatically subscribed at the end of the video, I am glad to see people like you, with so many skills putting them all to work and teaching people along the way. Again, congratulations and keep it up!
Maybe an odd suggestion. But you know how in game controllers you can kinda pull on the analog sticks. Like it's a slightly different elevation. I wonder if you could make your own space mouse in which you have two elevation levels for your stick. One being for free move control and then you push in your stick and you have fine granular control similar to f.e a safe lock wheel.
I see. Maybe add a switch inside that you will push down to enter that mode? Where is increases/decreased the sensitivity. 🤔 I will keep that in mind. thanks for the suggestion
I reckon the most natural interface for this would be a pressure sensor. So when you squeeze the stick, the motion slows down. As we naturally grip tools more firmly when we're trying to position them more precisely.
Something I find very helpful for projects like this is an adhesive backed 60A silicone sheet, it's very gummy and so non slip beyond most anything else, it's not too thick (0.04" or just over 1mm) can be cut with scissors and has a great 3M adhesive backing. It's the only thing I have found that makes 3D prints truly slip resistant. I use it on fridge magnets all the time, if I print would normally slide down the fridge under it's own weight, with this stuff you cannot slide it at all, enough force will cause it to pop off the fridge (overcoming the magnet strength) but never slide. Items you want to sit on a table and not move, while weight is great adding this stuff to the bottom basically allows what weight you have to act on the surface with a lot greater force.
This will explode!! 💥 I mean the video, hopefully not the microcontroller. 🤣 In all seriousness, bravo! It's not just the design that feels polished, it's literally everything - the cinematic presentation was ON POINT! The product barely seemed 3D printed in the end, very very nice finish. 10/10 on everything!
Nice job! I love my 3Dconnexion but I hate that the rubberized finish can degrade and go sticky. I have 2 units and had to eventually remove the gloop as they became unusable. Very glossy plastic underneath - not very comfortable. I plan to add some leather grip.
I have a 2005 spacepilot(with HP logo), and I use car interior sticker to cover the sticky handrest and top of the knob. Everything else works fine for decades, amazing durable product. Only once it started to drift, then I opened it up and discovered some little bugs inside.
This project would make sense to only those who would spend hundreds of CAD hours in just maneuvering around, which could otherwise be productive time. So far there is no real competitor for 3d connexxion products, but this one made some decent progress in the DIY version and hope to see some further development, and I am sure 3d connexxion also sell just the bare sensor if that's any helpful.
Agreed! I think the real magic would be most likely in the software. If I do a second version of this project I will try to go for manipulating the camera directly like I tried at first.
You are now the biggest competitor to the Orbion! What an elegant design! I would love to see a 6-DOF version as it would make me reconsider making a space mouse.
This is easily one of the top 3 maker projects on RUclips. You are a pro mate. I wish you keep on posting videos. This was inspiring and I've learned a lot.
This is pretty incredible to watch. 20 years ago I had a startup trying to do this very thing for a gaming accessory. I was young and stupid (very stupid) and we never managed to make it work. If you would show 21 year old me this video, my head would explode.
The project was epic as is and seeing the technique of spacing on the base to put the weighed bearings in before capping them off was genius. Learned a ton from this video. THANKS BUNCHES!!!!
Great design and construction! Excellent that it is more than a single-function device, I can see this being useful for instrument/camera control as well as six degree of freedom control.
This is incredible, both in execution and design. Really well done. I wanted to share an idea with you if you haven't already thought of it: Maybe you could make the top flat portion of the "joystick" touch sensetive and have it toggle z(oom)-axis through that instead of a button. That way you can easily transition from panning to zooming by placing and removing a finger on top of the space mouse.
!!THANK YOU!! The simplistic look of this makes me love it so much. I've always sought after getting a space mouse, but the price was tough to justify. Thank you for sharing the project! I'm already building one for myself! Great video and editing and your file organization is 👌🤌!!!! Thanks!
Loved the project. I have wanted a Space Mouse for a long time but have never thought I used Fusion 360 enough to justify the purchase. Never thought about building one. Another project for the list. Subscribed! Looking forward to more of your projects.
Bro, you just got a new subscriber. That is sick. You're doing what I dream of being able to do. I'm 40 years old and going through some changes in my life, and I really want to get out of IT work and into microelectronics, engineering and iterative design. I have a yearning to do stuff like this. Thanks for the inspiration.
You are the MAN. I have the same problem, and a space mouse is simply out of my budget. I also have the same parts laying around as well, so I'm super stoked you did this project. Thank you so much!
In music speakers it's common to use sand and in tape dispensers you'll typically see clay used to add stable weight. So instead of steel balls, these might be an option to consider for your next project.
I had that 3D connection space mouse when I worked as a structural engineer a few years back. Thing was so awesome after I figured it out. Definitely wanna try n build my own now like this!
Nice project. Two things jump out to me though. 1) Just use the "No Gesture, No Shift" plug-in. Then in you orbit with right click, pan with middle mouse click and zoom with middle mouse scroll. 2) If you still want to use this, use it on the left side of the keyboard so that you can use your mouse with your right hand. Then when performing "Modify" tools that require the selection of faces/edges, you can orbit and pan around while still clicking on the faces or edges that are needed. Incorporated a streamdeck or similar would be cool for a fully functioning macro pad. You could also add shortcuts to replace the zoom to/look at/rotate to x,y,z face/rotate view 90 degrees etc etc.
Thanks for the feedback. I’m using it on the left ofc. It was just easier to capture footage from the right side when I was filming. I built a macropad in one of my videos that I can use to those shortcuts if needed.
Cool project. One thing I foresee as an issue is that as a HID, it's going to be handled a lot, meaning the surface paint job will likely wear on your hands with use. I hope the device solves your initial engineering problem, though and can't wait to see how you improve it.
Nice, even though it's not 6-axis it's better than the other DIY solutions currently out there. You could make it 6-axis by putting a 2nd TLV493D detecting a 2nd magnet (or negative of the first magnet), but it'll be less compact. You can also make a 6 axis controller with 3 joysticks (good ones are annoying to source) or 6 to 12 strain gauges (allows barely any motion unless you get creative), so magnets are the way to go!
You deserve a lot more that 17k subs… this project is insane Lead powder or small lead splitshot would be perfect for base weights, you could even just strap the spit shots in half and pack them in a lot tighter
Suggestion: Make the knob freely rotatable. You would then need to put the magnetic sensor in the base, and magnets in the top. You would need to change the construction of the knob, so the knob has a circular "monorail" that rides in a slot in the spring cage.
“Expensive cars, fancy watches… that’s not luxury. For me, luxury is having your own personal hardware store, right at home.” - Giaco Whatever Super slick build of a brilliant concept. If it was a Skunkworks project, they’d call it The Burnt Marshmallow. And if it was a Kickstarter campaign, it would beat it’s target by an order of magnitude.
This is a great project, congrats, I actually did this very same project for my thesis (Product Design) around 8 years ago now. Cool to see another perspective on it!
I always wonder if you're going to make another video, but when you release one I am reminded of how much goes into designing the structure, electronics and video production. Totally amazed every time that you can do a full project by yourself and video pre/post-production in 4 months. Kudos on the BBs
Not only an awsome build with great video quality and nicely presented, but you also share the build files!!! First time viewer, Insta-sub! This reminds me when I build my own analog stearing wheel/joystick for my Amiga (only digital input) back in the 1980s at the age of 16, good old old old memories! (thanks for bringing back something I had forgot about!) My first version had over 200 components (didn't know much but standard electronic components), my third version used less then 10 when I had learned more🙂
I've had a Space Mouse for several years now, and would hate to be without it for apps like SketchUp, and it looks like you have more functionality with your DIY mouse. Either that or I have been missing a trick all these years. Impressive work Salim, and I say that as someone who spent a lot of his working life as a design engineer - in my case, of test instrumentation at Ford UK Product Development.
Lovely video. You make it sound so simple! I have no knowledge of electronics or soldering and I am still in the process of researching how/which 3d printer to get, but in spite of that you're videos are very encouraging.
@@salimbenbouz as long as the one you made works and is intuitive I can't imagine it wouldn't be. I've had to try to do models without the space mouse a couple of times and it's rough after getting used to intuitively being able to just swing the model around any orientation at any time without even thinking about it.
what an absulte pleasure it was to watch this amazing build, your audio & video production quality is just amazing along with your engineering and creative style I enjoyed it very much. Wishing you good luck & success with your channel cause I really want to see more content like this in the future. 👍
This is a kickass build video. Cool product design, great and interesting editing, good lighting. Good music. It would’ve been interesting to see the space mouse a bit more in action. Looking forward to your next drop. Subscribed.
Amazing, a friend and I were discussing only last night that one of us needs to get better at CAD so we can do more advanced projects. Already got my printer working on the parts and I look forward to learning Fusion 360 (or something similar) with this. Cannot wait for the instructions and parts list. Subscribed and looking forward to more of your projects
I use the 3D connexion for years at work. It’s very useful in designing. I wanted to buy one for personal usage but it’s expensive. Maybe there’s opportunity to make it by myself 😅 Nicely done project. Gongrats🎉
I use a real Spacemouse every day. I feel so gimped working in Fusion 360 without one. I WFH often and it sucks when I either forget it at work or at home. It took months to really get use to using it, but now that I've been using it for a few years, it's hard to work without it. With the real thing, it's not just orbit and pan, but zoom and roll too. You can basically fly to any perspective you need. Often it's just around an edge to grab a face.
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@Jamaxgamer7907 Working on few things. I will have smg new soon
Which scope model do you use here 2:22
@@salimbenbouzthe question is for you
@@sinamathew that’s just a serial plotter in the Arduino IDE
I should be impressed by the engineering, but dang! the editing manages to make even a simple green LED look fancy !
Thanks! Anything can look fancy if you spend couple hours in Adobe Premiere 😂
Yeah, I was "distracted" by the production quality as well :D
@@salimbenbouz I used to edit videos professionally with Premiere and Avid. Are you self-taught on editing like me? Love the Sound FX use.
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Wow, that would fit perfectly as a submersible controller.
too soon, man
@@gabsrants No, it's not too soon.
Hilarious
Nah, this is way too advanced. You want a well-tested design that will feel familiar and comforting to users while under pressure, preferably without sinking too much money. A good old xbox gamepad would be perfect.
@@aysnov the worst part is it wasnt even xbox, it was a logitech f710 with extra bits on the thumb sticks, absoloute death trap
For a homemade device, I'm super impressed with how professional the final result looks! Super cool project!
@RepentandbelieveinJesusChrist5 True. Not sure what this has to do with the video, though
The production value on this whole video is incredible, the "product montage" at 10:43 is so professional.
Hot damn! This was such an epic project!
Oh hey! Thanks it means a lot. I love your videos!
@@salimbenbouz I've watched the video twice now. I might need to attempt to make one of these. I've also been wanting to build one of your Macro Pads & try to use that with my iPad for shortcuts within my 3D Modeling apps
@@UncleJessy Awesome! I'm working on the Instructables for this one right now. It should be live tomorrow. Let me know if you have any questions and I'd be happy to assist you with the macropad as well. Cheers!
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Curious. I worked on the Spaceball (predecessor to the Spacemouse). I can answer with certainty the math to convert from the the 6 led/sensors to 6DOF on the application side was difficult. The hard part was we were using some crappy embedded 8bit processors (PIC I think) and had to do fixed point matrix math on chip.
Also, I felt the pain of trying to integrate with a CAD application. The problems you ran into with the macros and keyboard shortcuts were very similar to the problems I had with integration with SoftImage.
I'm not very good at math and the 3D rotations melted by brain a little .. So I gave up on it momentarily 😆 for a more simple prototype to try it first before diving into all that work. Thanks for the reassurance!
@uberthought
Which model?
I thought the old 2003 (as seen on K's desk in Men In Black) used strain-gauge sensors.
I'm not sure what the 4000 and 5000 models use, but I thought they were similar tech, just more flexible variants.
I'm actually very curious about the circuit-board on the 5000 models as I have a theory about something.
In case you're wondering, I used a 2003 back in the '90s with PRO/Engineer and use a 5000-USB almost daily with FreeCAD in Linux.
@@salimbenbouz Yeah, I get it. It's been 35 years of coding since I wrote those transforms. I'd be luck to do a simple 2d translation today. TBH, most of what we did back in the day was find an algorithm in a book and implement it in C. Change book and C to stackoverflow and javascript and nothing's changed.
Or..ChatGPT and rust? Maybe next year.
@@uberthoughtchatgpt and rust got a lol out of me. still employing the old "book and C" method here.
quaternions are likely your friend (and foe) here 😅
Wow incredible project! And the print came out so sleek too
Thanks!
@@salimbenbouz I would like to buy this device how much does it cost?
@@SurG30ni guess you have to search alternatives
Amazing project! I built a macropad using your design and now its an integral part of my setup. Would love to build this some day! 🤩
Wow! thank you! I'm glad you found it useful
@@salimbenbouz What strikes me is that the product is so smooth after printing. I wonder what kind of printer was used here. That wouldn't have been a cheap thing
@@henkholdingastate Even an Ender 3-flavored printer can do smooth prints like that, once you get it dialed in for flow rates, etc. The real magic is the red paste he rubbed on and sanded off before painting. Basically auto body filler but easier to sand. With several coats of that and a very fine sanding job, and 3 light coats of primer-filler (and more sanding) followed by several coats of satin finish black paint, you can make any print look like it was injection molded. You just have to WANT to do the work. 😄
As a product engineer, I really impressed for your passion! Well done!
This whole video is so well put together, but the printing time lapses with the synth music was the perfect touch.
So glad you took the time to sand, fill, and finish the parts. So many people leave their 3d printed projects with layer lines in videos which makes the final product look amateruish. This is amazing, looks so clean
yeah, he did an awesome job in the post finishing. However these days I have seen 3D prints where I cannot see the layer lines anymore. I think they slice the STL at extremely small layer height. I have seen friends print them on Bambu labs printers.
@@rajdude1 Very true, ive seen a lot of really nice prints made on the x1 carbon using cf pla.
Man, I saw this a few days ago, rewatched it, and couldn't stop thinking about this. Well done man. I think you should make a community for this, also draw a bigger bottom section where its possible to have more buttons and possible a led screen to a microcontroller for functions. I'm sure there are lots of programmers that would help you code a driver for this type of device. Well done !
I love how you use the 3d printer as a tool, and not the ultimate solution to world problems. It's easy to print in any colour we want and call it a day, but for best result, the freshly printed parts should always be treated as "green" and given a finish as you did. Fantastic work!
That looks so cool. It made imagine what would it feel like to wield a controller device, that is like a ball mouse, but the ball is levitated by magnets. The magnets would resist movement of the ball like the springs you have here, while allowing even more degrees of freedom, and potentially be even smoother.
Ooh, now that's an interesting idea.
I can think of two issues:
(1) I don't know if it's possible to rotate a magnetically levitated object off the axis of its poles.
(2) It would probably spin too freely and be drifting around when you let go of it.
But perhaps that could be solved if the rotating ball was actually a hollow shell which rotates around the floating magnet. You could adjust the friction to find the sweet-spot. And the position could be tracked optically.
What magnificent talent! As a space mouse user I feel like I learned something, as a tinkerer you melted my brain🤣, and as an editor you put genuine smiles in my face. You earned a sub and I can't wait to see what you do next. 🙏👊💕 Thank you for all the hard work made to look attainable.
Genius.... I can't imagine the amount of effort for this video. The project, the video editing, the quality in everything. Simply perfect. Wish you all the best mate.
@11:10 Compared to yours - The real one allows you to move, and rotate all 6 Axis of the the 3D Workspace _at the same time_ giving you a way more natural control as if you were actually holding the 3D object in your hand ( I own both the legacy SpacePilot Pro and the now SpaceMouse Enterprise that replaced it and seeing that to a single axis constrained movement made it painfully obvious ).
It’s a real shame they seem to hate video games and won’t make their drivers not break controller use
@@digadigado They won't even let you map keys to it (at least not last time I spoke with a rep) which is stupid. If they opened that thing up it would be such a powerful device.
The SpaceMouse drivers for Mac are absolute shit though, which is what I have to use for work
Yer I have a spaceMouse double sided taped to my desk at work for CAD and CAM.
I'm barely aware of using it, its like telepathy.
My most used key bind is to have it lock out rotation and just have zoom and pan to zoom in very close. Without this it is too easy to have the detail you want to see up close drift off screen. Also good in wireframe mode in the CAD so as to not lose your sense of orientation.
Interesting video to learn the inner workings.
That's the plan if I make another version. This is just a prototype to get a feel for it. I want to complete sensing 6 axis and try to translate that to the camera in the CAD directly if possible without hijacking the mouse.
Nice video, i know this is 9mo old, but just a thought to share, you could make a TPU sleeve, maybe in an insert, to make it more grippyer. Keep up the good work.
Wow, such a clean build! I love the idea of modeling little channels for inner wires
Thanks! I like to keep things neat as much as possible.
very solid project, well done.
that being said, one thing to be aware of when using magentic sensors: if the chamber containing the magnets is exposed to the environment, ferrous particles can collect on the magnet, and if they do, they will throw off the field the sensor is detecting, causing the device to experience phantom inputs and input distortion.
i live somewhere with red soil, from high iron content, and experienced the issue with a cheap flight stick, and you may experience something similar
that being said, since you had the forethought to include threaded inserts, it should be possible to get back in there to clean things up if you encounter the problem, so it isn’t the end of the world, just something to be congisant of.
Really sad that you are still not acknowledged enough in my opinion. You are an incredible and creative engineer with such a high product und video quality that many many others on this platform should take a look at themselves. Very much respect
Thanks! I'm just a hobbyist 😅 and incredibly honoured with the all the response I'm getting and it motivates me to do more. Thanks for watching!
I do fully agree with your reply. When i read the overall comments above yours i couldn’t help making up a tendency for another scoop upon this device, as in the meantime this isn’t some promotional thing, and also not a commercial video.
It is though a next level gadget made by a ‘professional hobbyist’ (if this only could make sense…)
Well, i do know that it’s shared for free in detail.
And therefore i’m grateful for that. Thank you very much for uploading.
In this and all of your other videos, it's clear that you not only have great technical skills, but also an amazing aesthetic eye. Awesome work, engineers should strive to be more well rounded like this.
Thanks! I appreciate it
I always see thumbnails/titles for videos like this (I made my own! DIY! etc.) and go, "Oh wow, he made that himself?! Man, maybe I can too!" And then they pull out computer chips from the junk drawer and start plugging things into a breadboard and I'm like, "Oh.... well, back to asking for giftcards at Christmas I guess."
The best part about yours over the 3dconnexion space mouse (I own one) is that yours doesn't have that terrible rubberized coating that inevitably degrades and starts to gum up. Your design is very sleek and functional. Love it
Man, this is a next-level project. Awesome editing skills you have.
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Super awesome project! I just bought all the parts to make two of these. Will report back when I'm done! Thanks!
Congratulations! I have automatically subscribed at the end of the video, I am glad to see people like you, with so many skills putting them all to work and teaching people along the way. Again, congratulations and keep it up!
The quality of the product, and the actual production itself is insane
Really cool project
I would consider to use fuzzy skin in some areas of the knob to increase grip and add more visual interest to it
Cool idea. Maybe in the next one
Even just rough finish nylon would be great. Maybe a full diamond knurl pattern over the whole surface.
Yeah, I would probably make the knob out of a medium TPU with a slight texture.
the simplicity of the mechanism is fantastic
Maybe an odd suggestion.
But you know how in game controllers you can kinda pull on the analog sticks.
Like it's a slightly different elevation.
I wonder if you could make your own space mouse in which you have two elevation levels for your stick.
One being for free move control and then you push in your stick and you have fine granular control similar to f.e a safe lock wheel.
I see. Maybe add a switch inside that you will push down to enter that mode? Where is increases/decreased the sensitivity. 🤔 I will keep that in mind. thanks for the suggestion
I reckon the most natural interface for this would be a pressure sensor. So when you squeeze the stick, the motion slows down. As we naturally grip tools more firmly when we're trying to position them more precisely.
@@andybrice2711 So the finer control would only be available during squeeze correct?
@@voidbinary Yes, though it could be more of an analogue thing: The tighter you grip it, the more it slows down.
Something I find very helpful for projects like this is an adhesive backed 60A silicone sheet, it's very gummy and so non slip beyond most anything else, it's not too thick (0.04" or just over 1mm) can be cut with scissors and has a great 3M adhesive backing. It's the only thing I have found that makes 3D prints truly slip resistant. I use it on fridge magnets all the time, if I print would normally slide down the fridge under it's own weight, with this stuff you cannot slide it at all, enough force will cause it to pop off the fridge (overcoming the magnet strength) but never slide. Items you want to sit on a table and not move, while weight is great adding this stuff to the bottom basically allows what weight you have to act on the surface with a lot greater force.
Thank you for the insight. I will definitely keep this in mind for future projects
This will explode!! 💥
I mean the video, hopefully not the microcontroller. 🤣
In all seriousness, bravo! It's not just the design that feels polished, it's literally everything - the cinematic presentation was ON POINT! The product barely seemed 3D printed in the end, very very nice finish. 10/10 on everything!
I am insanely jealous of your mad skills! Not only did you create the perfect controller, but it's beautiful.
Very slick project and very well made video dude! You are definitely going places 👍
thanks!
Woah, this popped up on my home screen for no reasons, but damn, this is pure gold. Amazing editing and final product.
Nice job! I love my 3Dconnexion but I hate that the rubberized finish can degrade and go sticky. I have 2 units and had to eventually remove the gloop as they became unusable. Very glossy plastic underneath - not very comfortable. I plan to add some leather grip.
I have a 2005 spacepilot(with HP logo), and I use car interior sticker to cover the sticky handrest and top of the knob. Everything else works fine for decades, amazing durable product. Only once it started to drift, then I opened it up and discovered some little bugs inside.
See! I'm glad refrained from spraying the knob rubber in that last minute. I though it would increase grip but you're right that would age horribly.
Excellent build. I bought a spacemouse compact and it's the best improvement to my fusion360 workflow yet.
This project would make sense to only those who would spend hundreds of CAD hours in just maneuvering around, which could otherwise be productive time. So far there is no real competitor for 3d connexxion products, but this one made some decent progress in the DIY version and hope to see some further development, and I am sure 3d connexxion also sell just the bare sensor if that's any helpful.
Agreed! I think the real magic would be most likely in the software. If I do a second version of this project I will try to go for manipulating the camera directly like I tried at first.
You are now the biggest competitor to the Orbion! What an elegant design! I would love to see a 6-DOF version as it would make me reconsider making a space mouse.
This is easily one of the top 3 maker projects on RUclips. You are a pro mate.
I wish you keep on posting videos. This was inspiring and I've learned a lot.
The production of this video is equally as impressive as the build. For a guy with 15K subs kinda blown away by the level of detail in this!
Incredible work. I'm amazed at the design and quality of the print, the software, the electronics - all top notch.
This is pretty incredible to watch. 20 years ago I had a startup trying to do this very thing for a gaming accessory. I was young and stupid (very stupid) and we never managed to make it work. If you would show 21 year old me this video, my head would explode.
The project was epic as is and seeing the technique of spacing on the base to put the weighed bearings in before capping them off was genius. Learned a ton from this video. THANKS BUNCHES!!!!
Your attention to detail is truly inspiring. It shines through in everything you create, including your video edits.
Thank you so much
Wow, looks great!
I also made my own spacemouse about a year ago by placing a potentiometer on top of a joystick
Great design and construction! Excellent that it is more than a single-function device, I can see this being useful for instrument/camera control as well as six degree of freedom control.
Thanks! It doesn’t have 6dof sensing yet. next version !
This is incredible, both in execution and design. Really well done. I wanted to share an idea with you if you haven't already thought of it: Maybe you could make the top flat portion of the "joystick" touch sensetive and have it toggle z(oom)-axis through that instead of a button. That way you can easily transition from panning to zooming by placing and removing a finger on top of the space mouse.
Thanks! That would be cool! I will keep that in mind
!!THANK YOU!! The simplistic look of this makes me love it so much. I've always sought after getting a space mouse, but the price was tough to justify. Thank you for sharing the project! I'm already building one for myself! Great video and editing and your file organization is 👌🤌!!!! Thanks!
Loved the project. I have wanted a Space Mouse for a long time but have never thought I used Fusion 360 enough to justify the purchase. Never thought about building one. Another project for the list. Subscribed! Looking forward to more of your projects.
Bro, you just got a new subscriber. That is sick. You're doing what I dream of being able to do. I'm 40 years old and going through some changes in my life, and I really want to get out of IT work and into microelectronics, engineering and iterative design. I have a yearning to do stuff like this. Thanks for the inspiration.
You are the MAN. I have the same problem, and a space mouse is simply out of my budget. I also have the same parts laying around as well, so I'm super stoked you did this project. Thank you so much!
Thanks. Glad I could help! I didn't give the cost a serious thinking but great that you already have the parts. Build Instructions coming soon!
In music speakers it's common to use sand and in tape dispensers you'll typically see clay used to add stable weight. So instead of steel balls, these might be an option to consider for your next project.
That's a great build. I have a spaceball from so long ago that it has a serial port connector on it. They are great to use.
Super slick man, oddly enough I'm modeling things in fusion and though, "summagun! I NEED one of these myself!" Awesome project!!!
I had that 3D connection space mouse when I worked as a structural engineer a few years back. Thing was so awesome after I figured it out. Definitely wanna try n build my own now like this!
Love the project, the holding back trying not to overcomplicate and the setup - I’d really like to see your setup, it’s pretty slick
The missing 3 axis would bug me not to engineer this contraption. On the other hand, you learn what you do.
Keep up the excellent work!
dude!!!!! this is so beautiful!!! I absolutely love the final finish. It resembles nothing like a 3D print. Awesome work man!!!!!!!
Just plain amazing. Wow, at every level of design, execution, and final results, it's amazing. Thank you.
Nice project. Two things jump out to me though.
1) Just use the "No Gesture, No Shift" plug-in. Then in you orbit with right click, pan with middle mouse click and zoom with middle mouse scroll.
2) If you still want to use this, use it on the left side of the keyboard so that you can use your mouse with your right hand. Then when performing "Modify" tools that require the selection of faces/edges, you can orbit and pan around while still clicking on the faces or edges that are needed.
Incorporated a streamdeck or similar would be cool for a fully functioning macro pad. You could also add shortcuts to replace the zoom to/look at/rotate to x,y,z face/rotate view 90 degrees etc etc.
Thanks for the feedback. I’m using it on the left ofc. It was just easier to capture footage from the right side when I was filming. I built a macropad in one of my videos that I can use to those shortcuts if needed.
Cool project. One thing I foresee as an issue is that as a HID, it's going to be handled a lot, meaning the surface paint job will likely wear on your hands with use. I hope the device solves your initial engineering problem, though and can't wait to see how you improve it.
Nice, even though it's not 6-axis it's better than the other DIY solutions currently out there. You could make it 6-axis by putting a 2nd TLV493D detecting a 2nd magnet (or negative of the first magnet), but it'll be less compact.
You can also make a 6 axis controller with 3 joysticks (good ones are annoying to source) or 6 to 12 strain gauges (allows barely any motion unless you get creative), so magnets are the way to go!
Thanks for the suggestions. I have some exploring to do for the next one for sure.
You deserve a lot more that 17k subs… this project is insane
Lead powder or small lead splitshot would be perfect for base weights, you could even just strap the spit shots in half and pack them in a lot tighter
Suggestion: Make the knob freely rotatable. You would then need to put the magnetic sensor in the base, and magnets in the top. You would need to change the construction of the knob, so the knob has a circular "monorail" that rides in a slot in the spring cage.
Yeah, I have often wondered whether the Spacemouse would be better as a large trackball which freely rotates in 3 axes.
@@andybrice2711 I meant freely rotatable only in left/right direction. So same as now, but the knob rotates freely left/right.
This looks like an off the shelf product!!!! The quality is insane!!!!!!!
This is an impressive project! A wireless version would be a fantastic addition.
I am 100% gonna make this.
was already looking for a DIY space-mouse, and this looks to be the best one yet.
thanks! build instructions coming soon
@@salimbenbouz will they include a partlist as well [EU, USA, CA stores]
“Expensive cars, fancy watches… that’s not luxury. For me, luxury is having your own personal hardware store, right at home.” - Giaco Whatever
Super slick build of a brilliant concept. If it was a Skunkworks project, they’d call it The Burnt Marshmallow. And if it was a Kickstarter campaign, it would beat it’s target by an order of magnitude.
I dont own a PC and I also don't do 3d modeling but I watched this whole video. Awesome work man! Really cool stuff
Jesus this is insane. It looks so cool and is actually practical. The editing was amazing. Great job man!
that piece of hardware is unbelievably good-looking!
that finishing is SICK! It doest even looks like 3d printed! ure a pro!
YOU ARE FIERCE, MAN!!!! THE MOUSE CONNEXION IT'S OVER!!
the animations showing what you're printing are sick!
This is a great project, congrats, I actually did this very same project for my thesis (Product Design) around 8 years ago now. Cool to see another perspective on it!
One of the best DIY projects I've seen so far! Am already looking forward to version 2!
I don’t even do cad work and I loved your design. Well done
I was just looking for some Fusion360 tutorials ... and Salim here just makes a mouse with scrap parts for Fusion 360 .
I think one cool addition would be adding a "clutch" button that when pressed adds an alternate set of commands for the original movements.
Very impressive! That was quite the multi-talented demonstration.
I always wonder if you're going to make another video, but when you release one I am reminded of how much goes into designing the structure, electronics and video production. Totally amazed every time that you can do a full project by yourself and video pre/post-production in 4 months. Kudos on the BBs
Not only an awsome build with great video quality and nicely presented, but you also share the build files!!! First time viewer, Insta-sub!
This reminds me when I build my own analog stearing wheel/joystick for my Amiga (only digital input) back in the 1980s at the age of 16, good old old old memories! (thanks for bringing back something I had forgot about!)
My first version had over 200 components (didn't know much but standard electronic components), my third version used less then 10 when I had learned more🙂
It's projects like this where 3D Printing really shines as a legendary tool to have 👍
Can't wait to make this! I use a space mouse for work really want one for at home designing my projects!
I've had a Space Mouse for several years now, and would hate to be without it for apps like SketchUp, and it looks like you have more functionality with your DIY mouse. Either that or I have been missing a trick all these years. Impressive work Salim, and I say that as someone who spent a lot of his working life as a design engineer - in my case, of test instrumentation at Ford UK Product Development.
Really, really like your desktop with the retro Raspi setup! Give us a video showing your working area! Nice work!
Lovely video. You make it sound so simple! I have no knowledge of electronics or soldering and I am still in the process of researching how/which 3d printer to get, but in spite of that you're videos are very encouraging.
That's an impressive finish you achieved on that 3D mouse.
some crazy small buttons to be printed on a FDM printer and a ENDER! you got that thing dialed!
Very cool! I've had my space mouse for a couple of years now and it is a real game changer when it comes to 3D modeling.
Thanks! so I've heard! maybe it will the same for me.
@@salimbenbouz as long as the one you made works and is intuitive I can't imagine it wouldn't be. I've had to try to do models without the space mouse a couple of times and it's rough after getting used to intuitively being able to just swing the model around any orientation at any time without even thinking about it.
@@DoRC Exactly. That's why I went down this rabbit hole to begin with. I just want to be able to do it without thinking about it.
what an absulte pleasure it was to watch this amazing build, your audio & video production quality is just amazing along with your engineering and creative style I enjoyed it very much. Wishing you good luck & success with your channel cause I really want to see more content like this in the future. 👍
This is so beautiful!
The Product, the Documentation of the process, all of it!
This is a kickass build video. Cool product design, great and interesting editing, good lighting. Good music.
It would’ve been interesting to see the space mouse a bit more in action.
Looking forward to your next drop.
Subscribed.
Amazing, a friend and I were discussing only last night that one of us needs to get better at CAD so we can do more advanced projects. Already got my printer working on the parts and I look forward to learning Fusion 360 (or something similar) with this. Cannot wait for the instructions and parts list.
Subscribed and looking forward to more of your projects
I use the 3D connexion for years at work. It’s very useful in designing. I wanted to buy one for personal usage but it’s expensive. Maybe there’s opportunity to make it by myself 😅
Nicely done project. Gongrats🎉
Ah! I've had an idea for something like this for a while, super cool to see how a real one works.
I use a real Spacemouse every day. I feel so gimped working in Fusion 360 without one. I WFH often and it sucks when I either forget it at work or at home. It took months to really get use to using it, but now that I've been using it for a few years, it's hard to work without it. With the real thing, it's not just orbit and pan, but zoom and roll too. You can basically fly to any perspective you need. Often it's just around an edge to grab a face.