I think what these guys fail to realize are semantics, simple issues that most PC owners notice, but console folks seem to forget. These are OLD machines, with OLDER hardware. 5400 rpm HDD's, slow, low clocked CPU's. These sort of games, or many are/were not meant to run on this old hardware for this duration, or at least not maxed out. Yes these machines are optimized, but these games are optimized to the console, but only for what the machine is "capable" off. This gen, and the games tech catching up is just quicker than other past generations. They've squeezed about everything they can out of these machines, especially XB1. It's time to move forward, or at least step back the tech during development, now. But yet it's like the weather (when the meteorologist's are shocked), DF seem "surprised" at times at a game running below 30 with this hardware, or glitches, poor optimization etc. They are good, but sometimes I think the confusion is an "Act".
My wife and I were talking about that the other day. When you play a Ranger type game (RDR2, Witcher 3, etc) you normally have a horse. Deek has a horse, but it is made of metal. Lol
The first time I got caught by a horde, I freaked out and got swarmed a minute later. It was great. Haven’t felt that kind of panic in a game in a long time. But I could see how the effect could wear off after a few times.
Dear Digital Foundry, could you please check the downgrade on Red Dead Redemption 2 brought by March's update 1.07 ?? 🙁 There are *TONS* of players complaining about it (particularly PS4 and PS4 Pro ones) and it seems Rockstar doesn't care at all !! 😖
It is very easy to spot the down grade... The only way to prevent the downgrade is to delete the patch update... You will not lose any progress in the game... Theres a downside if you play the game without a patch.. a massive frame drop and frame pacing when using ps4 pro in 4k, theres a glitch when playing poker, the random events has missing npc but not all random event has glitch.. But if you turn off the 4k and turn on the 1080p mode the performance will improve big time almost perfect 30fps experience on ps4 pro without frame pacing issue....the difference is big in terms of graphics ..you can spot right away the upgrade when you remove the update , the texture quality is even more better without the update the ambian occlusion will make the game graphics even more better to see because without the ambian occlusion everything is wash out without the shadow it affects overall color of the game..... The best way to play the rdr2 without update is on ps4 pro... Because the xbox one x version , you cannot transfer all the extra power to a performance mode even if you switch on a 1080p tv because xbox one x has enabled supersampling at all times .. While the ps4 pro you can transfer all the power to increase the performance, because the ps4 pro has boost mode and supersampling manually which you can turn off and on..if the game has 4k support if you want better performance just switch the resolution to 1080p make sure the supersampling is turn of..no need to turn on the boost mode because all enhance game has boost mode already..
@@RyanFennec yes, unfortunately it makes sense... Too bad for them then, i'm one of the few that haven't bought Red Dead 2 yet and now with this sad situation i'm not planning to do it any soon ! What's really hard to understand is the reason behind an intended downgrade, the game already ran almost flawlessly on every console...
Days Gone is such a beauty of a game. I hope and want Bend to make sequel for this. For their first try on home console after all these years, I say Kudos to you Bend
It's definitely impressive after all these years,I'm not certain if they should make a sequel though. Maybe build upon this game instead?adding DLC?you know story missions.
UE4 game running stable 30 fps in native 1080p on 2013 console with this level of fidelity is impressive, checkerboard 4K on PS4 Pro is also nice, higher than 1800p checkerboard that was originally planned. The Last Of Us 2, Death Stranding and Ghost of Tsutshima will be squize all the juices from PS4 lol.
@Daddy Max - Are you dense? GTA 5 is vastly superior to this clunker of a game. For one, Dopey Smurf, do you see any sort of physics on display in any Days Gone footage, bar the log roll footage from the 2017 E3 footage?
I don't know why but on my slim the drops are really bad and happen somewhat often on the bike and rarely on foot. I just want them to know that I value frames more than graphics on a HUGE level. If there was just some more settings so I could just turn down alot of the factors that contribute to such low framerate.
I think it's thanks to the CPU, that many separate AI running around really hurts the frames and it's works fine a lot more than not to be honest, but some combinations of areas with tons of NPC's really tank it.
The only time I lag is on my bike never on foot or never while killing hordes only while riding hope they fix it even though I'm done with most of the game
I have never played a UE based game that dint have streaming issues, im honestly surprised they managed to make a open world of this scale and detail on it.
@@AKSBSU Yeah im not a fan but i think it comes down to many devs already having tons of experience with it and and being a relatively easy to use engine which probably save them a lot of time and money.
I noticed that the input delay was pretty inconsistent at times. Sometimes the controls felt more snappy and responsive at times and more unresponsive at other times. Is this normal and is it tied to the performance of the game as well? Any responses are welcome and appreciated.
For a 6 year old console which was already out-dated when it launched, this is the kind of time we should expect these performance drops. Let's not forget Xbox 360 and PS3 games were averaging 20-25 FPS at times with some games.
Massively underrated game. Not the best game this gen mind you but also not the worst, like some reviewers seem to think. Game runs like a dream on the Pro. Plus the graphics and the HDR implementation are top notch. I’m having a blast with it.
this games optimization is uitter trash, stop trying to defend . Maybe it can run well on your pro but on my reg. ps4 it runs worse than pubg´s first month on pc ! every Major citiy or gas Station i enter my Frames go down to hell. On some Moments its literally unplayable. I played GoW, RD2, Horizon Zero Dawn and other exclusives on release but this is by far one of the worst gaming experiences i made . Glad i only Paid 30 bucks for this game.... lets see wait they can improve with updates
The only thing that bothers me is when you go to the menu then ps4 pro becomes much louder, my ps4 pro even overheated and turned off after 2 hours of playing. After that it didn't turn on for 5 minutes, and i though that cpu fried. But after a couple of minutes it turned on again and everything was normal. I disassembled ps4 pro and changed thermal paste and now it's much quieter and not overheating. But still when in the menu or inventory or map it becomes louder. I read that the cause of this is uncapped framerate in the pause menu.
I can tell you the performance is next to perfect, at least on the pro. You really don't need to wait if you're worried about performance. If you're thrown back by all the negative reviews, then all I can say is, if this is your type of game, you'll love it.
@@marcelolopes4049 well judging by this video ps4 base has a solid performance with only minor drops, but it seems mostly during traversal with your bike.
At least the hdr is not broke like rdr2. And it is stupid how all these fanboys are hating on this game. This game runs and looks alot better than alot of other games latlely
Been playing this game for 15 hours now in hard difficulty, I have to tell you honestly that I never felt bored or tired with missions and runs. This is game is like a combination of the good aspects of every great Ps4 exclusives I've played (TLOU, Uncharted, Horizon Zero Dawn) and implements it very well in its own world and then some. First of all the story is compelling and interesting, it is like a hybrid of The Walking Dead and The Last of Us. The story is told in a non-chronological manner that should motivate you to play more and delve further into. Graphics is gorgeous, the lighting and textures are comparable to RDR 2, but has a has short draw distance that causes texture and model pop-ins, but not ultimately game-breaking. Gameplay is engaging and intense, killing freakers and creatures is heart pounding since they do a lot of damage and requires stealth or high fire-power and strategy to take down, you have to make use of your entire arsenal especially against Hordes. Audio is decent at the very least, it has an issue at the moment when in-game sound effects get muted (even with Patch 1.04), that being said, the gun sounds are crisp, rifles, hand guns, grenades, automatic-rifles etc. echo in tunnels and reverberate in open areas, you can hear melee weapons hit, rip and shred opponents. Gun-play is comparable to The Uncharted series but has more impact and firepower and melee combat is very tight and enjoyable as well. You traverse the world with your bike which also serves as your auto-save point, you can upgrade its performance and visuals but nothing exciting or something we havent seen before. However, what I like the most about this game that reviewers fail to mention are the small things that are immersive, like Deacon himself, an interesting protagonist with moral conflicts and choices often comments on different situations and enemies you encounter, he will curse, whine, shout and comment depending on the situation. Human enemies react when you wound them and panics or retreats when they are at a disadvantage. Newts (child-freakers who are very clever opportunists) will tend to avoid engaging you unless you are low on health or you encroached on their territories, camps and other drifters have interesting background stories that makes you assess whether they are actually good or evil-natured or are just simply trying to survive. Downsides of this game are few but still noticeable, like buildings and interiors are many but feels empty and sparse, there is a level of grind and repetition in terms of clearing out nests, check points and enemy camps. All in all, this game is great and if I have to rate it would be an 8.5 to 9.0.
Wwz = more zombies on screen Days gone = less "freakers" but higher quality in difficulty, and detail. One has MP the other has SP only, awesome fun games imo
@@artoriasoftheabyss1575 no wtf are you talking about? All around the game looks better than the 2016 reveal. It's pretty obvious and Digital Foundry itself confirmed it in this video
@@artoriasoftheabyss1575 you didnt watch the video. Df said this is an UE4 benchmark title, but follow the crowd like all the other IGN sheep who need to be told what's good and what isnt. Oh let's not forget your favorite paid off streamers who advertise for publishers too. 🙄
I had some major stuttering on PS4 Pro during gameplay in the 'Limbo' mission (running with HDR off on a 1080 tv in supersampling mode). Characters sliding around in space without animation and serious amounts of totally dropped frames. That's the only place in gameplay I've had a problem though. Otherwise it's buttery smooth for me, I haven't noticed the streaming issues (I tend to drive pretty slowly I think so maybe that's a factor) but I have noticed some texture and lighting effects pop-in during cut-scences too.
WH250398 every game gets more fun as you upgrade, weapons become more effective, increased health, better stealth options etc etc. Your comment tells me that you don't even have the game and/or you're just another PC or Xbot just trolling
glad to know that it doesn't get 60fps, thought my system was broken. I'm kind of glad I skipped the PS4 and went PC, but I'm disappointed after recently being gifted a PS4 Pro to find out so many games don't get a solid 60fps. Last of Us Remake was so smooth, but even major PlayStation games like God of War (of all games...smh) still have major framerate issues. I was so disappointed in the low fps in the main area of that game (with the boat that you use to travel to different areas. I assume the PS5 will be better for this, but honestly consoles have to make full HD with sold 60fps a base minimum standard. It's 2023, console players shouldn't have to suffer inconsistent and low fps games.
I’ve encountered my first drop after 5 hours of play. In general it’s very impressive how it looks and runs on base PS4. I personally love the game, it’s addictive and very immersive.
Max not really. A common problem that old PS4s have is dust. If someone clears out the dust regularly performance of the console really improves. Some PS4s can't even run Just Cause 3 but mine can because every month I get as much dust out of the system and it doesn't thermal throttle. Clean your damn console.
In fact, it is. Try PC game on an SSD drive with a slow CPU. Regardless of the SSD speed, the game will have fps drops and stutters, so stop guessing shit you don't know about.
@@snchez2106 Of course the SSD will load nothing without the CPU. DMA will copy data from SSD directly to Memory, we are talking about mainly about texture here, meaning the data will be copy to GPU Memory and decoding will be handled by the GPU. And for the second comment. Of course a game will run slower with a slower CPU, regardless of the SSD. That's kind of impressive to go against the point you are trying to make and not realizing it. The argument was kind of weak. Please document yourself, I'm very happy to make you lose your time. Also they were talking about fragmentation on SSD, it has no real effect on SSD...
Well this proves my PS4 Pro is messed up. Because my experience is completely different. If I'm driving in the forest in the rain the frame rate dips into the low teens. And the overall frame rate has just been awful.
Odd. I noticed dips while traveling on bike but during combat or just on foot it ran smoothly at a stable 30fps on my ps4 pro. I had no streaming issues that I'd noticed at least.
@@Ultra-Niche-Gaming That's why I think something has to be wrong with my Pro. I cleaned up the hard drive and rebuilt the database and it's still horrible for me. I get single digits in camps and it stays in the teens when riding the bike in the rain. It's nearly unplayable, It's only ok if I'm on foot outside of camp and it's not raining or snowing.
This game obviously needs several patches to make it a more seamless gaming experience. Fortunately, I’m getting my copy delivered next week, hopefully some of these issues will be sorted out soon.
Your videos have made me order this, I had it pre ordered but my card was out of date so my pre order was cancelled. After seeing some of the controversial reviews etc I was kind of glad my order had been cancelled- however after watching your videos I've been really impressed so i ordered it again. Looking forward to getting it and playing on my pro and 4k hdr TV. 😊
I own an original model PS4 and kinda wish i had spent the extra money for a PS4 pro. In some games i see a big difference between pro and reg PS4 comparison videos like this. This game looks really good one that I'd want to play some day soon.
Did anyone noticed that the game looks and feels smoother with the 1080p lock on the pro? 4k checkerboard looks nice but 1080p native is the best way for me to play on the pro Version.
Honestly, the game looks fine and locked at 30fps for most time. May be we are so spoiled that we are not happy even if the frames drop for even few seconds. It looks okay to me really. I will enjoy it without letting fps bother me
Thing is I love the game I give it a 9.5 only problem being that some while riding your bike I have no issue if my frame drops to 20 but seriously 5 fps and 10 is bad when using nitrous sometimes I'm almost done with the game and I only had 1 freeze but 15 seconds long I thought my game crashed
Enjoying this game a lot! Far better than all the other annual and microtransaction packed trash out there. People just hating it because IGN told them to since they need to be told what to enjoy and cant think for themselves. But hey theres always the same annual trash you all keep buying up!
Oh yeah that's totally it. It couldn't be that other people genuinely have differing opinions than you. Ever think maybe it's you that's the biased one? Maybe you're such a fan of your PlayStation that your cognitive dissonance won't let you see this game for what it really is because of your blind defense of anything sony
@@mitcHELLOworld yes. it's so bad they're comparing it to Crackdown just to feel satisfied about it. Their OverLord MBG is posting bs videos. not anywhere have I seen xbox gamers comparing it to Crackdown. man some pple will post bs for views and get the sheep to follow. he literally posted a video. I dont even have a problem with the game,its fun but it's not A1. but I'm not going to bash it. you're also right. its "gamers" out here justifying and when those xbox gamers get pissed at their reviews the Sony guys post bs comments about their games ,but let it be a ps game and it gets justification. I'm tired of the biased bs on both sides. when it's a xbox game then you get shitted on,and they make all sorts of bs excuses. like "xbox games just suck".
Sony fans eat up generic third person games up way too much. First party Sony titles are literally all the same shit sans maybe stuff like LBP or Killzone, both of which didn't do well on PS4
My mistake. It needed more flashy multimillion dollar marketing paying off fake hyped streamers, youtubers, community managers, and game sites - not to mention cloning from an annual IP, a much MUCH bigger asset flipped map, 50x more non-gameplay cut scenes acted by _real_ actors, and a bunch of microtransactions to be considered a "good game." My bad. 🙄
One appeal of console gaming was the ubiquitous experience across all systems. Every time my base ps4 dips or lags during days gone it upsets me that that feature is no longer present. Want your game to run the way it should on your playstation? Spend hundreds of dollars and buy a different playstation. That proposition has never been the case. It sucks.
Yeah...this is an issue for some games on both consoles and it's one of the reasons I bought a base PS4 the traded it in to buy a Used PS4 Pro in Dec. 2017. People will usually say "well if you want better performance get the better console, you have a choice" but the base platforms have had some shitty performance. This should hopefully be fixed next gen with the improved Ryzen CPUs.
@@djam2410 it won't. Because the base ps5 in 4 years will be rendered the inferior system when they release the ps5.5. At that point all games released will run normally on the 5.5 and have slowdown on the base ps5. They created a precedent with the ps pro and Xbox elite or whatever. Can't put the genie back in the bottle. To have games run the way they should we have to buy new systems every 4 years now instead of 8-10 at the start of the new generation.
Derrick James it will be improved on ps5 judging by the revealed spec but how long the ps5 will last, considering the evolution of the gaming industry when it comes to new techs etc?! I have high end pc and I wish I had a chance to play days gone on my pc to enjoy the whole experience without these fucking FPS drops and stuttering on ps4 which obviously can only handle old gen remastered games! Only my gpu rx5700xt 8gb costs more than ps4 pro but I could handle solid 60 FPS at 2k resolution without any issues!
Yeah... Recent 1st-party PS4 games focus more on the PS4 Pro (performance-wise) than the base PS4. Most games run fine on the base console but some of them can have (heavy) frame dips which are often not present on the Pro. Spider-Man has this issue on the base PS4 where the game freezes for around 4-5 seconds before resuming gameplay because it's (likely) loading in a new area and crashes sometimes during cutscenes. Could be a problem with my PS4, but I doubt it.
"Hit job reviews" Just when you thought drones couldn't have their head up their ass any fucking farther. Lmao just fucking wow. Because it couldn't possibly be that the game maybe just MAYBE is really a 7.5 game huh?
You talking about the known SJWS at IGN and Gamespot. Yh they are known SJWS. infact there on there twitter having a lesbian party. And taking the piss out of White men
It started a few hours ago.. My ps4 pro just turned off without any dign no over heat nothing...and dident even start back up only after i pulled the cord and put back in to the power... and now it keaps doing.. i load my save file and pufff... crash after crash! the game is unplayeble.
EpicMusic470 So I’m an ignorant douche because the game isn’t good? Blame the developers who put this game out too soon. Blame the reviewers. Don’t blame me. I’m just stating facts. You realize if I were to kill myself due to your comment, you’d be arrested, right? It’s happened before. Grow up.
Omg I just found the first horde while I was on my way to a optional mission I couldn't believe the rush of adrenaline I felt at that moment So I turn back make them eat my dust 😄
Is it just me but seeing the Videos from DF and comparing it to E3 2016 the size of the Horde seems a lot smaller. At E3 2016 it looked like 200-300 zombies and now like... 50?
@@Buzz_1991 There are 40-50 Horde areas in the game that range from 100-600. The one you're referring to is a mission that's in the game. Horde groups can also be joined together to make 1000 and sometimes even more. There will also be a Horde only mode that will be added soon.
I was getting a few strange frame hang upson my ps4 pro, kinda like the game paused for a second to load. Only whilst really going fast on the bike, transferred the data to my ssd and havent had any since so I wonder if it is a harddrive issue? Maybe only happening on specific ps4s? Dunno.
celine latour Does that not contradict what DF are saying though? They mention the final game runs better but don’t mention the hordes being smaller in the final game than the E3 demo.
It didn’t bother me too bad but it was enough to make me wipe my Destiny PS4 and go trade it in for the pro version... this game is way too much fun to have the frame drops while entering camps or the occasional drop during a long bike ride. Watching my new pro download the update now... impatient AF lol
@@thismarxtheendforjoo2298 How is it on the PS4 Pro compared to the PS4? I am thinking about upgrading. I love this game but on the base PS4 the frame drops are just awful sometimes.
It’s a solid 7/10 game for me and I’m definitely having fun. The problem is, a 7/10 game is hard to sell to most people these days (especially at $60) because there are so many great games out there (and so many other entertainment options on top of that!) That said, I feel I’m getting my money’s worth. It’s fun and the story is pretty interesting. Hopefully some of the performance issues get patched as time goes by.
The PS3 and 4 uses Fat32/exFAT... there is no fragmentation in the NTFS sense. You guys showed several times that you clearly have no idea how HDDs work. (early as the Mass Effect collections for PS3 a long, long time ago and you still haven't learned) Or some basic tech facts in general which you guys get often wrong or half arsed explained and therefore somewhat wrong.
Regarding the streaming issues, I don't think the HDD it is the issue here, but the CPU. Both PS4 and PS4 Pro run HDDs and yet the PS4 Pro fares much better comparing to PS4. As a PC Gamer with an old CPU, it's very noticable this streaming hipcups in Unreal 4 games and some extra MHZ of overclock on my CPU makes most of them go away, so I would assume it's the same thing with the PS4 and PS4 Pro since PS4 Pro have a better clocked cpu than PS4, either that or PS4 PRO have more memory to allocate more of the world and thus can stream better in advance. Cheers
So it preforms and plays BETTER then what traliers showed. And people wonder why we prefer the ps4 exclusives to the other game companies that will straight up lie to you.
im not a fanboy , i own all consoles, and play all exclusives including this one, but in terms of BS trailers sony is the leader since a decade now, even for days gone, yes game look similar but show me the same horde as the E3 demo on the final game.. u can't , i've already played about 6hours and seen some reviews and this video and each time the horde is not a an horde , it's just 50 zombies following you ... not at all what they showed us at E3 and what DF shows us here starting at 11:57
i asked on an other game before, but also here: i can play it on standard ps4 without crashing or broke my console right? cause there are some people in the internet who say some things about that, that on the normal ps4 it doesn't work well or the ps4 crashes etc. .... bit scared if you should buy it for regular ps4.
funny to see the end result of the Horde compared to what they showed us on E3 , the Horde was 5 times bigger in scope... but it's bend studio, it's not a triple A , it's a good AA game with pro's and con"s...
I have a base PS4 and this game runs like a steaming hot pile of ass. I must have some sort of hard drive related streaming issue cause my frame rates when driving are often horrendous - also I've had multiple times where textures refuse to load in until I restart the entire machine
@@doom2000000 OG. It does still happen in some areas, mostly because it's a streaming issue, but nowhere near as often or as haltingly as it did before. 1.06 is still incoming with the promise of more improvement.
@@BloodyMarksman Seriously. You'd think from the comments that they declared this game to look and perform worse than Life of Black Tiger. The majority of the commentary in the vid is praise.
Dumb question but do u think the ps5 will fix alot of these problems? I mainly play on my xbox one x and have many ps4 games i own but haven't got to yet.
When the fuck did i sound like a fanboy? I own a xbox ,a ps4, and a switch. I just use my xbox the most because my directv runs through it. I love alot of ps4 games just some of the new ones i haven't got a chance to play yet. Im not gonna buy a pro when the ps5 will be out soon thats just stupid. It is rumored tgat it will be backward compatible so i was just asking if the same gains that got from the spiderman test will be similar in other titles. By the way the video said that the pro still had some issues i was refering to.
After finishing the game in ~40hrs the last 5 days i must say the performance on the PS4 was terrible until the last patches fixed the fps drop / stuttering mostly while driving around. The only performance problem now is the texture streaming which only loads low quality textures after maybe 2-4 hrs constant playing and to fix it you need to restart the game.
This is the most broken game I’ve ever enjoyed and hated LoL. Some of the most crazy design decisions I’ve ever experienced. Love/hate love hate Days Gone
You will need to buy the game again at worst. (Remastered) Most retrocompatible games use the same framerate as the original console. See Xbox 360 games running on the Xbox One X.
@@ImzNH with a consistant frame time running 30 frames per second the image you see is very consistant and fluid. thats why consoles press on 30fps more or less instead of 60, which then makes the studios be able to push graphics quality. running 30fps on a pc looks worse because of how different performance can be between every computer and its hardware. also having a less consistant frame time with hard frame time spikes breaks the fluid image ^
JUNIOR id rather play on 60 fps with worse graphics quality then on dogshit 30fps literally no game in the current year should be played on 30 fps also i dont know why they restrict their game to ps4 only i own one myself but im not paying 60€ to play on 30fps lmao
Days Gone is the Sony version of State Of Decay 2 even the reviews are backing that up. At least State Of Decay has a saving grace it can be played with 3 friends.
Peoples Champion Except State of Decay for me is a shell of a game. Tried it and it was not for me at all. And my main console is a One X. Defo getting this for my base ps4, since I don’t have a pro.
No it is not. Those are totally different games even though with a similar theme. Also not everyone wants to play multiplayer games. Some of us prefer single player narrative experiences.
@@kresimirmandic3807 Open world poorly made bug ridden zombie trash... yeah Days Gone is Sonys Sate Of Decay 2. Only people who has no friends want to play single player games all the time.
I am not going to lie as a gamer. I am tired of playing games at 30fps with drops under 30fps all the time. I own a PS4 Pro and a XB1X, and I appreciate the consoles for what they are. But I recently upgraded to a RTX 2080, and it's hard to go back and play the PS4 exclusives. Checkerboarding looks like straight poop, and it's grainy with really weird artifacts. It's a good game, but I can't help but thinking the whole time I would love to play this game at a native 1440p 120hz or at 60hz.
A pro tip,do not first do a session on your PC and then afterwards play on a console. I always avoid those situations,it's even better to do the other way around.
@@cyphaborg6598 Ha, I was a console guy and then I had a streaming PC. Then after being dissapointed with all the Faux-K 30fps games on t he X and Pro...I finally decided to start playing all my 3rd party games on PC. I am so glad I did. The only games I play on my consoles are Sony exclusives, and I play shooters on my Xbox.
@@rotiseriejones2137 I'm fine with checkerboard as long as it's checkerboard 4K60. Games like Battlefield V, DMC5 look amazing on X1X. Even though I have a gtx1080(and soon rtx2080) I can't get into pc gaming.
@@AKSBSU the game is very playable with very few framedrops yet, gunplay is so aweful it hurts the fun so much my man, its so so bad that im gonna be a good pal to you and tell you this now, melee would seem the go-to at first but before limiting yourself to that just take the repair melee weapons in the field skill then immidiately skill up ranged tree, 'focus' and accuracy skills, use only 2 of the nero injectors on stamina and all the rest for the 'focus' in the first region forget health upgrade game throws you shitloads of bandages and bandage craft materials. Abuse focus to land back to back headshots, they give much more xp, only 2 xp types =kill or headshot kill. As soon as you got all focus/accuracy skills start on melee tree and have a much more enjoyable time. Plus this game rarely rewards exploring so don't take this game as an actual open-world just search places if you need materials, this is like a realistic walking dead game.
It seems to happen the more you play or unlock but I could be wrong, I played 5hrs yesterday and it was fine but it's exactly like they said in the video today after I played for the same 5hrs.
@@solid_snake9708 maybe... But (no spoilers) I already have 3 main camps and I don't see a lot downframes.... But I I'll test one thing I I'll full my ssd and star another campaign to see if I have problems 👍👍👍👍
@@filipemikitopaiva Yea I'm getting below 20fps for sure, my ssd is pretty much spot on half full. I haven't done a simple restart yet so will have to try that and get back to you.
@@artoriasoftheabyss1575 it's the better way to do it considering there are yearly big open world titles that all hit the same check box of content. Monster spawn clearing, camp raid/clearing, collecting, basic as hell crafting, and so on. On top of brain dead human AI.
It's curious to hear Richard and John mostly praise the game with some discussion of tech problems, yet some of the commenters act like they said it looks and performs worse than Life of Black Tiger.
You should really adress the later part of the map, it runs like shit on Pro, especially on the bike, can not imagine how it would be on base PS4. Crater Lake and Wizzard Island (the last two camps) are where the framerate and frame pacing are the worst and it made my experience less enjoyable in the end game.
I just got there over the weekend. It runs like absolute garbage. It stuttered for so long a few times I thought my game was frozen. Not sure why it's so much worse than the earlier portion of the game. Maybe all the dust and other effects on screen? They really need to fix it.
@A B But, why does it suck? Been playing and enjoying without any updates. Straight ver. 1.00 and it's pretty damn good as it is. I stayed away because of dumb comments like this so I'd like to hear the reasoning.
The game is a broken mess especially once you start exploring the frame drop is unreal I have the pro version the game is so poorly optimized im surprised Sony let them release this
Richard calling from his cyberpunk bathroom.
John calling from his retro cellphone
wile123456 😂😂😂
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Sometimes when I’m playing and I’m far from my bike and a horde of freakers are chasing me I wish we could whistle for the bike to come. Lol.
steve mack so true lol
I think what these guys fail to realize are semantics, simple issues that most PC owners notice, but console folks seem to forget. These are OLD machines, with OLDER hardware. 5400 rpm HDD's, slow, low clocked CPU's. These sort of games, or many are/were not meant to run on this old hardware for this duration, or at least not maxed out. Yes these machines are optimized, but these games are optimized to the console, but only for what the machine is "capable" off. This gen, and the games tech catching up is just quicker than other past generations. They've squeezed about everything they can out of these machines, especially XB1. It's time to move forward, or at least step back the tech during development, now. But yet it's like the weather (when the meteorologist's are shocked), DF seem "surprised" at times at a game running below 30 with this hardware, or glitches, poor optimization etc. They are good, but sometimes I think the confusion is an "Act".
My wife and I were talking about that the other day. When you play a Ranger type game (RDR2, Witcher 3, etc) you normally have a horse. Deek has a horse, but it is made of metal. Lol
btsboogeyman89 Lol. True
The first time I got caught by a horde, I freaked out and got swarmed a minute later. It was great. Haven’t felt that kind of panic in a game in a long time. But I could see how the effect could wear off after a few times.
Dear Digital Foundry, could you please check the downgrade on Red Dead Redemption 2 brought by March's update 1.07 ?? 🙁
There are *TONS* of players complaining about it (particularly PS4 and PS4 Pro ones) and it seems Rockstar doesn't care at all !! 😖
@@RyanFennec im still waiting for a Gta 4 patch
@@4horsemenoftheapocalypse58 Is that a MEME?
Agreed
It is very easy to spot the down grade... The only way to prevent the downgrade is to delete the patch update... You will not lose any progress in the game... Theres a downside if you play the game without a patch.. a massive frame drop and frame pacing when using ps4 pro in 4k, theres a glitch when playing poker, the random events has missing npc but not all random event has glitch.. But if you turn off the 4k and turn on the 1080p mode the performance will improve big time almost perfect 30fps experience on ps4 pro without frame pacing issue....the difference is big in terms of graphics ..you can spot right away the upgrade when you remove the update , the texture quality is even more better without the update the ambian occlusion will make the game graphics even more better to see because without the ambian occlusion everything is wash out without the shadow it affects overall color of the game..... The best way to play the rdr2 without update is on ps4 pro... Because the xbox one x version , you cannot transfer all the extra power to a performance mode even if you switch on a 1080p tv because xbox one x has enabled supersampling at all times .. While the ps4 pro you can transfer all the power to increase the performance, because the ps4 pro has boost mode and supersampling manually which you can turn off and on..if the game has 4k support if you want better performance just switch the resolution to 1080p make sure the supersampling is turn of..no need to turn on the boost mode because all enhance game has boost mode already..
@@RyanFennec yes, unfortunately it makes sense...
Too bad for them then, i'm one of the few that haven't bought Red Dead 2 yet and now with this sad situation i'm not planning to do it any soon !
What's really hard to understand is the reason behind an intended downgrade, the game already ran almost flawlessly on every console...
Did you guys change mics or something? You both sound different. >_>
this is how they really sound without audio being "touched up" (raw)
kinda like every big streamer youtuber ever they hack voice :)
It sounds like John’s voice is compressed, or coming through a phone mic or something. You are right, they sound different.
Likely a Skype call that was recorded
Days Gone is such a beauty of a game. I hope and want Bend to make sequel for this. For their first try on home console after all these years, I say Kudos to you Bend
It's definitely impressive after all these years,I'm not certain if they should make a sequel though.
Maybe build upon this game instead?adding DLC?you know story missions.
To bad they can’t
man this is a 9/10 game for me. so good so high quality. super duper underrated. check it out. highly recommend it
UE4 game running stable 30 fps in native 1080p on 2013 console with this level of fidelity is impressive, checkerboard 4K on PS4 Pro is also nice, higher than 1800p checkerboard that was originally planned. The Last Of Us 2, Death Stranding and Ghost of Tsutshima will be squize all the juices from PS4 lol.
Personally I would have preferred a cut back res and graphics for a 60fps mode. But perhaps it wasn't possible.
you say on a 2013 console like if graphics really changed since then i mean gta v looks better than this
@@alexescobar817 it got cut back now so i guess you got what you wanted
Absolutely agreed
@Daddy Max - Are you dense?
GTA 5 is vastly superior to this clunker of a game.
For one, Dopey Smurf, do you see any sort of physics on display in any Days Gone footage, bar the log roll footage from the 2017 E3 footage?
I don't know why but on my slim the drops are really bad and happen somewhat often on the bike and rarely on foot. I just want them to know that I value frames more than graphics on a HUGE level. If there was just some more settings so I could just turn down alot of the factors that contribute to such low framerate.
Make sure it has plenty of air to breathe with
my base ps4 lags hard on this game there are times its crystal smooth but the dips are horrendous
I think it's thanks to the CPU, that many separate AI running around really hurts the frames and it's works fine a lot more than not to be honest, but some combinations of areas with tons of NPC's really tank it.
The only time I lag is on my bike never on foot or never while killing hordes only while riding hope they fix it even though I'm done with most of the game
If you value frames more than graphics then get a PC dude.
If those are all the problems that this game has, good work, Blend Studios.
Bend
Sie bend*
I don't know where that 'l' came from. 🤔
Quite a Blend of words you have there! Hahaha.
Blend me a smoothie please
I have never played a UE based game that dint have streaming issues, im honestly surprised they managed to make a open world of this scale and detail on it.
It was such an odd choice given they should have access to incredible game engines being a Sony first party game.
@@AKSBSU Yeah im not a fan but i think it comes down to many devs already having tons of experience with it and and being a relatively easy to use engine which probably save them a lot of time and money.
I noticed that the input delay was pretty inconsistent at times. Sometimes the controls felt more snappy and responsive at times and more unresponsive at other times. Is this normal and is it tied to the performance of the game as well? Any responses are welcome and appreciated.
For a 6 year old console which was already out-dated when it launched, this is the kind of time we should expect these performance drops. Let's not forget Xbox 360 and PS3 games were averaging 20-25 FPS at times with some games.
People didnt care that much about the framerate backthen(at least console gamer). Getting Far cry 3 flashbacks.
Massively underrated game. Not the best game this gen mind you but also not the worst, like some reviewers seem to think. Game runs like a dream on the Pro. Plus the graphics and the HDR implementation are top notch. I’m having a blast with it.
J D maybe you should get an eye surgery. Also you sound like an Xbot Fanboy.
J D whatever helps you sleep at night, child.
J D then there's no way you downloaded the 1.04 update. You probably just threw the disc in and started playing.
30fps has never been nor will it ever be a dream. I Nightmare sure. Not a dream
this games optimization is uitter trash, stop trying to defend . Maybe it can run well on your pro but on my reg. ps4 it runs worse than pubg´s first month on pc !
every Major citiy or gas Station i enter my Frames go down to hell. On some Moments its literally unplayable. I played GoW, RD2, Horizon Zero Dawn and other exclusives on release but this is by far one of the worst gaming experiences i made . Glad i only Paid 30 bucks for this game.... lets see wait they can improve with updates
The only thing that bothers me is when you go to the menu then ps4 pro becomes much louder, my ps4 pro even overheated and turned off after 2 hours of playing. After that it didn't turn on for 5 minutes, and i though that cpu fried. But after a couple of minutes it turned on again and everything was normal. I disassembled ps4 pro and changed thermal paste and now it's much quieter and not overheating. But still when in the menu or inventory or map it becomes louder. I read that the cause of this is uncapped framerate in the pause menu.
Will definitely be picking this up after a few more patches and a price drop. Sounds like a good time
I can tell you the performance is next to perfect, at least on the pro. You really don't need to wait if you're worried about performance. If you're thrown back by all the negative reviews, then all I can say is, if this is your type of game, you'll love it.
@@martingarciaarvidson6684 I hope ps4 base has a good performance too
@@marcelolopes4049 well judging by this video ps4 base has a solid performance with only minor drops, but it seems mostly during traversal with your bike.
@@martingarciaarvidson6684 I hope they fix that, I will buy the game 1st May
@@lupefiasco653 good news
At least the hdr is not broke like rdr2. And it is stupid how all these fanboys are hating on this game. This game runs and looks alot better than alot of other games latlely
They hate it because it's a White male. Checkout IGN and Gamespot review both women who reviewed are known SJWS.
@Curtis Riceman If thats the case Trumps going to win a second term in office
The game is great but my framerate keeps dropping and my game lags ....
Been playing this game for 15 hours now in hard difficulty, I have to tell you honestly that I never felt bored or tired with missions and runs. This is game is like a combination of the good aspects of every great Ps4 exclusives I've played (TLOU, Uncharted, Horizon Zero Dawn) and implements it very well in its own world and then some. First of all the story is compelling and interesting, it is like a hybrid of The Walking Dead and The Last of Us. The story is told in a non-chronological manner that should motivate you to play more and delve further into. Graphics is gorgeous, the lighting and textures are comparable to RDR 2, but has a has short draw distance that causes texture and model pop-ins, but not ultimately game-breaking. Gameplay is engaging and intense, killing freakers and creatures is heart pounding since they do a lot of damage and requires stealth or high fire-power and strategy to take down, you have to make use of your entire arsenal especially against Hordes. Audio is decent at the very least, it has an issue at the moment when in-game sound effects get muted (even with Patch 1.04), that being said, the gun sounds are crisp, rifles, hand guns, grenades, automatic-rifles etc. echo in tunnels and reverberate in open areas, you can hear melee weapons hit, rip and shred opponents. Gun-play is comparable to The Uncharted series but has more impact and firepower and melee combat is very tight and enjoyable as well. You traverse the world with your bike which also serves as your auto-save point, you can upgrade its performance and visuals but nothing exciting or something we havent seen before. However, what I like the most about this game that reviewers fail to mention are the small things that are immersive, like Deacon himself, an interesting protagonist with moral conflicts and choices often comments on different situations and enemies you encounter, he will curse, whine, shout and comment depending on the situation. Human enemies react when you wound them and panics or retreats when they are at a disadvantage. Newts (child-freakers who are very clever opportunists) will tend to avoid engaging you unless you are low on health or you encroached on their territories, camps and other drifters have interesting background stories that makes you assess whether they are actually good or evil-natured or are just simply trying to survive. Downsides of this game are few but still noticeable, like buildings and interiors are many but feels empty and sparse, there is a level of grind and repetition in terms of clearing out nests, check points and enemy camps. All in all, this game is great and if I have to rate it would be an 8.5 to 9.0.
My guy u stole the words right out of my mouth😅
Great video as always 😊👍
Not sure why, but I find your voices very calming and relaxing.
Keep up the great content.
Are you guys going to do a video on World War Z ? It has similar horde tech.
im loving this horde tech
VG Tech just did a WWZ video
i hope they don't because that would mean that they bought a game off the EPIC store
@Dr. Loomis but if they don't they certainly won't
Wwz = more zombies on screen
Days gone = less "freakers" but higher quality in difficulty, and detail.
One has MP the other has SP only, awesome fun games imo
A game that looks and plays better than the reveal?! What heresy! XD
Wtf are you talking about the games lighting was downgraded to dog shit for release
@@artoriasoftheabyss1575 no wtf are you talking about? All around the game looks better than the 2016 reveal. It's pretty obvious and Digital Foundry itself confirmed it in this video
@@artoriasoftheabyss1575 you didnt watch the video. Df said this is an UE4 benchmark title, but follow the crowd like all the other IGN sheep who need to be told what's good and what isnt. Oh let's not forget your favorite paid off streamers who advertise for publishers too. 🙄
A 72😂😂🤣😂
@@JahonCross so higher than Phil Spencers Xbox games then.
I had some major stuttering on PS4 Pro during gameplay in the 'Limbo' mission (running with HDR off on a 1080 tv in supersampling mode). Characters sliding around in space without animation and serious amounts of totally dropped frames. That's the only place in gameplay I've had a problem though. Otherwise it's buttery smooth for me, I haven't noticed the streaming issues (I tend to drive pretty slowly I think so maybe that's a factor) but I have noticed some texture and lighting effects pop-in during cut-scences too.
Did you guys try to reach out to Epic to ask them why that 30fps cap is so horrible in many games? WOuld be ncie to know what triggers the issue...
@willyboose Epic Games created the Unreal Engine.
i've noticed rebuilding the database on ps4 helps a ton with certain games performance, this one especially.
Still a bit confused why the analysis was split into three when this one also covered a bit of the graphical differences from the other video as well.
Turniplord So they can gain views off of the controversy of the game
The performance in later areas of the game are really bad
On ps4 standard is unplayable. Really disappointed
@@mirkon.1816 same dude
Diamond lake... I was really surprised of how bad the studder was.
@Tiagito Pis it any better now after all this patches on original ps4... 20 patches.....?
Renato Havliček yes
This game gets better after 7 hours with all the upgrades. It looks great in my 4k tv!!
I personally think that's a long ass time for a game to get fun.
WH250398 in the grand scheme of things this game looks like it has days worth of content to get through. 7 hrs is not that long
@@kapilbusawah7169 I prefer games that are fun from the beginning and get even better. 7 hours is as long as some games.
@@WH250398 I played The Division 2 and Anthem and after 7 hours those games were never fun.
WH250398 every game gets more fun as you upgrade, weapons become more effective, increased health, better stealth options etc etc. Your comment tells me that you don't even have the game and/or you're just another PC or Xbot just trolling
glad to know that it doesn't get 60fps, thought my system was broken. I'm kind of glad I skipped the PS4 and went PC, but I'm disappointed after recently being gifted a PS4 Pro to find out so many games don't get a solid 60fps. Last of Us Remake was so smooth, but even major PlayStation games like God of War (of all games...smh) still have major framerate issues. I was so disappointed in the low fps in the main area of that game (with the boat that you use to travel to different areas. I assume the PS5 will be better for this, but honestly consoles have to make full HD with sold 60fps a base minimum standard. It's 2023, console players shouldn't have to suffer inconsistent and low fps games.
I’ve encountered my first drop after 5 hours of play. In general it’s very impressive how it looks and runs on base PS4. I personally love the game, it’s addictive and very immersive.
you either have a special PS4 or are full of shite
Max You probably don’t even have one, right?
@@kraenk12 by base ps4 you mean launch ps4 or slim/core.
Max not really. A common problem that old PS4s have is dust. If someone clears out the dust regularly performance of the console really improves. Some PS4s can't even run Just Cause 3 but mine can because every month I get as much dust out of the system and it doesn't thermal throttle.
Clean your damn console.
@@kapilbusawah7169 yes. it costs nothing much to buy a can of air.
U guys are awesome, I'm having so much fun
I’m playing this for the first time right now. On PS5 on a new 4K etc TV. It looks and performs beaut.
Thank you bend studio for this amazing masterpiece. Loving every moment of it ❤️🔥
No Problems with my PS4 Pro newest revision and 2TB Samsung SSD. Loading times are great while respawn or fast travel
SSD for sure helps a lot. No slow spinning HDD.
How much did you pay for the SSD?
Uragan5 245€
Uragan5 ya the PS4 pro starts faster than my tv and the loading time of fast travel in days gone is between 2-4 seconds
"no problems with my 2 tb SSD which cost more than my console". lmao, sure dude, I hope you got no problem, you paid your console twice.
SSD bandwith is not CPU tied, DMA exist for a reason
A bit more explanation please, im trying to learn everything about hardware :)
CPU still has to do the work when it unloads the data off the SSD into the game engine. The game would load nothing without the CPU.
In fact, it is. Try PC game on an SSD drive with a slow CPU. Regardless of the SSD speed, the game will have fps drops and stutters, so stop guessing shit you don't know about.
@@snchez2106 Of course the SSD will load nothing without the CPU. DMA will copy data from SSD directly to Memory, we are talking about mainly about texture here, meaning the data will be copy to GPU Memory and decoding will be handled by the GPU.
And for the second comment. Of course a game will run slower with a slower CPU, regardless of the SSD. That's kind of impressive to go against the point you are trying to make and not realizing it. The argument was kind of weak. Please document yourself, I'm very happy to make you lose your time.
Also they were talking about fragmentation on SSD, it has no real effect on SSD...
Well this proves my PS4 Pro is messed up. Because my experience is completely different. If I'm driving in the forest in the rain the frame rate dips into the low teens. And the overall frame rate has just been awful.
Odd. I noticed dips while traveling on bike but during combat or just on foot it ran smoothly at a stable 30fps on my ps4 pro. I had no streaming issues that I'd noticed at least.
@@Ultra-Niche-Gaming That's why I think something has to be wrong with my Pro. I cleaned up the hard drive and rebuilt the database and it's still horrible for me. I get single digits in camps and it stays in the teens when riding the bike in the rain. It's nearly unplayable, It's only ok if I'm on foot outside of camp and it's not raining or snowing.
This game obviously needs several patches to make it a more seamless gaming experience. Fortunately, I’m getting my copy delivered next week, hopefully some of these issues will be sorted out soon.
Your videos have made me order this, I had it pre ordered but my card was out of date so my pre order was cancelled.
After seeing some of the controversial reviews etc I was kind of glad my order had been cancelled- however after watching your videos I've been really impressed so i ordered it again. Looking forward to getting it and playing on my pro and 4k hdr TV. 😊
@@user-sk1zf7no9t thank you so much
Does anybody experience slow loading times on background items in the world or "graphics popping up" when riding the motorcycle?
@Renan Soares Its hard for me too spot frame drop issues... only things that's noticeable is the slow graphics for me.
I still remember playing spyro on my ps1 with terrible framerate. This is nothing compare to the old days.
@Walther Penne because I've been playing since the ps1..
I own an original model PS4 and kinda wish i had spent the extra money for a PS4 pro. In some games i see a big difference between pro and reg PS4 comparison videos like this. This game looks really good one that I'd want to play some day soon.
The foliage shading on Pro is beautiful.
Did anyone noticed that the game looks and feels smoother with the 1080p lock on the pro? 4k checkerboard looks nice but 1080p native is the best way for me to play on the pro Version.
Honestly, the game looks fine and locked at 30fps for most time. May be we are so spoiled that we are not happy even if the frames drop for even few seconds. It looks okay to me really. I will enjoy it without letting fps bother me
vv people are definitely spoiled. They act like it’s Fallout or Skyrim levels of bad which it’s not.
Thing is I love the game I give it a 9.5 only problem being that some while riding your bike I have no issue if my frame drops to 20 but seriously 5 fps and 10 is bad when using nitrous sometimes I'm almost done with the game and I only had 1 freeze but 15 seconds long I thought my game crashed
But the game is awesome and I really like it otherwise and I'm definitely gonna platinum it anyway
Enjoying this game a lot! Far better than all the other annual and microtransaction packed trash out there. People just hating it because IGN told them to since they need to be told what to enjoy and cant think for themselves. But hey theres always the same annual trash you all keep buying up!
Oh yeah that's totally it. It couldn't be that other people genuinely have differing opinions than you.
Ever think maybe it's you that's the biased one? Maybe you're such a fan of your PlayStation that your cognitive dissonance won't let you see this game for what it really is because of your blind defense of anything sony
or maybe you just enjoy it because it's a sony game and in your brain every sony game must be good
@@mitcHELLOworld yes. it's so bad they're comparing it to Crackdown just to feel satisfied about it.
Their OverLord MBG is posting bs videos. not anywhere have I seen xbox gamers comparing it to Crackdown.
man some pple will post bs for views and get the sheep to follow. he literally posted a video.
I dont even have a problem with the game,its fun but it's not A1. but I'm not going to bash it.
you're also right. its "gamers" out here justifying and when those xbox gamers get pissed at their reviews the Sony guys post bs comments about their games ,but let it be a ps game and it gets justification.
I'm tired of the biased bs on both sides. when it's a xbox game then you get shitted on,and they make all sorts of bs excuses. like "xbox games just suck".
Sony fans eat up generic third person games up way too much. First party Sony titles are literally all the same shit sans maybe stuff like LBP or Killzone, both of which didn't do well on PS4
My mistake. It needed more flashy multimillion dollar marketing paying off fake hyped streamers, youtubers, community managers, and game sites - not to mention cloning from an annual IP, a much MUCH bigger asset flipped map, 50x more non-gameplay cut scenes acted by _real_ actors, and a bunch of microtransactions to be considered a "good game." My bad. 🙄
One appeal of console gaming was the ubiquitous experience across all systems.
Every time my base ps4 dips or lags during days gone it upsets me that that feature is no longer present.
Want your game to run the way it should on your playstation? Spend hundreds of dollars and buy a different playstation.
That proposition has never been the case. It sucks.
Yeah...this is an issue for some games on both consoles and it's one of the reasons I bought a base PS4 the traded it in to buy a Used PS4 Pro in Dec. 2017. People will usually say "well if you want better performance get the better console, you have a choice" but the base platforms have had some shitty performance. This should hopefully be fixed next gen with the improved Ryzen CPUs.
@@djam2410 it won't.
Because the base ps5 in 4 years will be rendered the inferior system when they release the ps5.5. At that point all games released will run normally on the 5.5 and have slowdown on the base ps5.
They created a precedent with the ps pro and Xbox elite or whatever. Can't put the genie back in the bottle. To have games run the way they should we have to buy new systems every 4 years now instead of 8-10 at the start of the new generation.
Derrick James it will be improved on ps5 judging by the revealed spec but how long the ps5 will last, considering the evolution of the gaming industry when it comes to new techs etc?! I have high end pc and I wish I had a chance to play days gone on my pc to enjoy the whole experience without these fucking FPS drops and stuttering on ps4 which obviously can only handle old gen remastered games! Only my gpu rx5700xt 8gb costs more than ps4 pro but I could handle solid 60 FPS at 2k resolution without any issues!
Well, we have Patch 1.09 now and its really different! New Video please
I haven’t installed the patch yet and my game is incredibly laggy so that might be a good idea
Yeah... Recent 1st-party PS4 games focus more on the PS4 Pro (performance-wise) than the base PS4. Most games run fine on the base console but some of them can have (heavy) frame dips which are often not present on the Pro. Spider-Man has this issue on the base PS4 where the game freezes for around 4-5 seconds before resuming gameplay because it's (likely) loading in a new area and crashes sometimes during cutscenes. Could be a problem with my PS4, but I doubt it.
game is perfectly fine a solid 7.5 imo
a few hit job reviews impacted the overall metacritic just ask i can point you to them
"Hit job reviews"
Just when you thought drones couldn't have their head up their ass any fucking farther. Lmao just fucking wow.
Because it couldn't possibly be that the game maybe just MAYBE is really a 7.5 game huh?
You talking about the known SJWS at IGN and Gamespot. Yh they are known SJWS. infact there on there twitter having a lesbian party. And taking the piss out of White men
@@radmallery617 worst is waypoint and patrick klepek review
@@artoriasoftheabyss1575 u r clueless
It started a few hours ago.. My ps4 pro just turned off without any dign no over heat nothing...and dident even start back up only after i pulled the cord and put back in to the power... and now it keaps doing.. i load my save file and pufff... crash after crash! the game is unplayeble.
In a nutshell, play it on Playstation 4 Pro all the time, or play on PS4 after the 1.04 patch
These kind of games are going to especially tough for the base model consoles.
Or don’t play it at all, because it’s not a good game.
@@Miadaskate it is a decent game I played it on my ps4 pro and the game does look incredible visuals wise
@@LKLyrics470 how it play on the ps4 slim/core
EpicMusic470 So I’m an ignorant douche because the game isn’t good? Blame the developers who put this game out too soon. Blame the reviewers. Don’t blame me. I’m just stating facts.
You realize if I were to kill myself due to your comment, you’d be arrested, right? It’s happened before. Grow up.
Thank you guys for what you do helping make our gaming experiences better 😊
TAA is only good for for constant 60fps anything below produce Ghosting , cross fade images
Didn't know that, interesting.
Omg I just found the first horde while I was on my way to a optional mission I couldn't believe the rush of adrenaline I felt at that moment
So I turn back make them eat my dust 😄
Yh dude they will chase you down. There's way bigger Hordes to come.
@@radmallery617 can't wait to be able to defeat them all xD gonna need a lot of ammo it seems
dude(I assume) that shit is crazy haha
Is it just me but seeing the Videos from DF and comparing it to E3 2016 the size of the Horde seems a lot smaller. At E3 2016 it looked like 200-300 zombies and now like... 50?
@@Buzz_1991 There are 40-50 Horde areas in the game that range from 100-600. The one you're referring to is a mission that's in the game. Horde groups can also be joined together to make 1000 and sometimes even more. There will also be a Horde only mode that will be added soon.
Hi! would you like to do a video on Dragon's Dogma on Switch? Thank you!
I was getting a few strange frame hang upson my ps4 pro, kinda like the game paused for a second to load. Only whilst really going fast on the bike, transferred the data to my ssd and havent had any since so I wonder if it is a harddrive issue? Maybe only happening on specific ps4s? Dunno.
ImpatientTurtle TOO BAD they ONLY REVIEWED BASE PS4 with SSD LOL 😳😳😳😳😳. I got SSD with PR0 too & AGREE with YOU 🌞🌞💯💯
the hordes look way smaller than during the E3 presentation, or is it just me?
Neocaron yeah but if u look at the E3 the game run at like 23 fps
celine latour Does that not contradict what DF are saying though? They mention the final game runs better but don’t mention the hordes being smaller in the final game than the E3 demo.
in the begining of the game there are no big hordes 30-70 zombies max, then the hordes are 300+. So they`re still there.
LPrussia07 Ah thanks for clarifying. How does it perform with the large hordes?
There are hordes ranging from 300 to 500, you just gotta travel to find them
Had some major slow down on base PS4 , doesn't bother me as the game is fantastic , ignore the reviews is my advice .
It didn’t bother me too bad but it was enough to make me wipe my Destiny PS4 and go trade it in for the pro version... this game is way too much fun to have the frame drops while entering camps or the occasional drop during a long bike ride. Watching my new pro download the update now... impatient AF lol
@@thismarxtheendforjoo2298 How is it on the PS4 Pro compared to the PS4? I am thinking about upgrading. I love this game but on the base PS4 the frame drops are just awful sometimes.
It’s a solid 7/10 game for me and I’m definitely having fun.
The problem is, a 7/10 game is hard to sell to most people these days (especially at $60) because there are so many great games out there (and so many other entertainment options on top of that!)
That said, I feel I’m getting my money’s worth. It’s fun and the story is pretty interesting. Hopefully some of the performance issues get patched as time goes by.
The PS3 and 4 uses Fat32/exFAT... there is no fragmentation in the NTFS sense. You guys showed several times that you clearly have no idea how HDDs work. (early as the Mass Effect collections for PS3 a long, long time ago and you still haven't learned) Or some basic tech facts in general which you guys get often wrong or half arsed explained and therefore somewhat wrong.
External HDD's can indeed cause a loading delay,it's not going to be on par with internal HDD connections.
thank you very much about the ssd tests.
Regarding the streaming issues, I don't think the HDD it is the issue here, but the CPU.
Both PS4 and PS4 Pro run HDDs and yet the PS4 Pro fares much better comparing to PS4.
As a PC Gamer with an old CPU, it's very noticable this streaming hipcups in Unreal 4 games and some extra MHZ of overclock on my CPU makes most of them go away, so I would assume it's the same thing with the PS4 and PS4 Pro since PS4 Pro have a better clocked cpu than PS4, either that or PS4 PRO have more memory to allocate more of the world and thus can stream better in advance.
Cheers
PS4 PRO runs beautifully
@@radmallery617 that's what I said.
So it preforms and plays BETTER then what traliers showed. And people wonder why we prefer the ps4 exclusives to the other game companies that will straight up lie to you.
im not a fanboy , i own all consoles, and play all exclusives including this one, but in terms of BS trailers sony is the leader since a decade now, even for days gone, yes game look similar but show me the same horde as the E3 demo on the final game.. u can't , i've already played about 6hours and seen some reviews and this video and each time the horde is not a an horde , it's just 50 zombies following you ... not at all what they showed us at E3 and what DF shows us here starting at 11:57
@@AngeAlexiel that is definitely not "50 zombies". It's less than E3, but not by much.
i asked on an other game before, but also here: i can play it on standard ps4 without crashing or broke my console right? cause there are some people in the internet who say some things about that, that on the normal ps4 it doesn't work well or the ps4 crashes etc. .... bit scared if you should buy it for regular ps4.
the puddle reflection in this one is incredible
But it is not real time reflection..
funny to see the end result of the Horde compared to what they showed us on E3 , the Horde was 5 times bigger in scope... but it's bend studio, it's not a triple A , it's a good AA game with pro's and con"s...
There is bigger hordes than shown in this video
@@MrEditsCinema dude has no clue and it shows
@@deadflexxx true.. the one in the 2016 demo (warehouse in lost lake) still has 500 or so. Crazy difficult
I have a base PS4 and this game runs like a steaming hot pile of ass. I must have some sort of hard drive related streaming issue cause my frame rates when driving are often horrendous - also I've had multiple times where textures refuse to load in until I restart the entire machine
Happens to me too when ps4 is overheating
1.05 helps a ton with the stutters while riding.
Are u playing on pro or regular ps4?
@@doom2000000 OG. It does still happen in some areas, mostly because it's a streaming issue, but nowhere near as often or as haltingly as it did before. 1.06 is still incoming with the promise of more improvement.
@@carpetfluff35 thank you for that update brother..
Favorite Sony exclusive for sure. A bit buggy for me but the motorcycles the hordes. The story is excellent. Hopefully we get a second 🤞
ohhh cant wait to play it on my pc, hopefully they fixed these bugs☺️
Can you get a better mic please? Would increase the quality of these videos by much.
great vid, always quality content
Best quality videos with worst quality comments. Poor DF
@@BloodyMarksman Seriously. You'd think from the comments that they declared this game to look and perform worse than Life of Black Tiger. The majority of the commentary in the vid is praise.
Dumb question but do u think the ps5 will fix alot of these problems? I mainly play on my xbox one x and have many ps4 games i own but haven't got to yet.
What problems they said it runs great on the PRO even better than RDR2. Listen and stop being a fanboy
When the fuck did i sound like a fanboy? I own a xbox ,a ps4, and a switch. I just use my xbox the most because my directv runs through it. I love alot of ps4 games just some of the new ones i haven't got a chance to play yet. Im not gonna buy a pro when the ps5 will be out soon thats just stupid. It is rumored tgat it will be backward compatible so i was just asking if the same gains that got from the spiderman test will be similar in other titles. By the way the video said that the pro still had some issues i was refering to.
17:47 ok.... that was unexpected 😂
It should've been Syphon Filter
After finishing the game in ~40hrs the last 5 days i must say the performance on the PS4 was terrible until the last patches fixed the fps drop / stuttering mostly while driving around. The only performance problem now is the texture streaming which only loads low quality textures after maybe 2-4 hrs constant playing and to fix it you need to restart the game.
This is the most broken game I’ve ever enjoyed and hated LoL. Some of the most crazy design decisions I’ve ever experienced. Love/hate love hate Days Gone
Can you test again with update 1.09 for base ps4?
One of the fist games that worth waiting for the PS5 hah
Kidding, I will give it a chance in June ( When the Survival update comes out )
Next year on ps5 4k 60 fps
bari az Too early.
Survival update?
You will need to buy the game again at worst. (Remastered)
Most retrocompatible games use the same framerate as the original console. See Xbox 360 games running on the Xbox One X.
This game is just boring.
With regards to asset streaming have you tired this game on a PS4 with an SSD? It would be a worthwhile test in general, not just for this game.
Exclusive for PS4.... fps drops.... In my opinion, that is an unacceptable situation
i still dont understand how ppl can play games with 25-30 fps ......
@@DubElementMusic
*They have Tomatoes on their Eyes ;)*
Hopefully streaming problems will be a thing of the past in the next gen with the change from traditional HDDs to SSDs.
@Walther Penne well your dream came true both the new consoles are using really fast ssds with gd amounts of storage
DAYS of bad frame pracing is GONE
Yh it runs great now especially on the PRO.
How is 30 fps good
@@ImzNH For the most people, consistant 30 fps is absolutly fine.
@@ImzNH with a consistant frame time running 30 frames per second the image you see is very consistant and fluid. thats why consoles press on 30fps more or less instead of 60, which then makes the studios be able to push graphics quality. running 30fps on a pc looks worse because of how different performance can be between every computer and its hardware. also having a less consistant frame time with hard frame time spikes breaks the fluid image ^
JUNIOR id rather play on 60 fps with worse graphics quality then on dogshit 30fps literally no game in the current year should be played on 30 fps also i dont know why they restrict their game to ps4 only i own one myself but im not paying 60€ to play on 30fps lmao
Good game, I have very good time with it, but on standard PS4 frame drops sometimes are terrible, like 10fps for couple seconds
Days Gone is the Sony version of State Of Decay 2 even the reviews are backing that up.
At least State Of Decay has a saving grace it can be played with 3 friends.
Peoples Champion Except State of Decay for me is a shell of a game. Tried it and it was not for me at all. And my main console is a One X. Defo getting this for my base ps4, since I don’t have a pro.
No it is not. Those are totally different games even though with a similar theme. Also not everyone wants to play multiplayer games. Some of us prefer single player narrative experiences.
@@kresimirmandic3807
Open world poorly made bug ridden zombie trash... yeah Days Gone is Sonys Sate Of Decay 2. Only people who has no friends want to play single player games all the time.
Yeah but who the hell has 3 friends
@@lupefiasco653
So is Days Gone. What's you're point?
The only big issue i can see is lights that go off if source is not visibile, causing ureal light flashes.
I am not going to lie as a gamer. I am tired of playing games at 30fps with drops under 30fps all the time. I own a PS4 Pro and a XB1X, and I appreciate the consoles for what they are. But I recently upgraded to a RTX 2080, and it's hard to go back and play the PS4 exclusives.
Checkerboarding looks like straight poop, and it's grainy with really weird artifacts. It's a good game, but I can't help but thinking the whole time I would love to play this game at a native 1440p 120hz or at 60hz.
All games need to target 60fps next gen. I never buy 30fps games, vote with your wallet.
@@vandammage1747 I completely agree.
A pro tip,do not first do a session on your PC and then afterwards play on a console.
I always avoid those situations,it's even better to do the other way around.
@@cyphaborg6598 Ha, I was a console guy and then I had a streaming PC. Then after being dissapointed with all the Faux-K 30fps games on t he X and Pro...I finally decided to start playing all my 3rd party games on PC. I am so glad I did. The only games I play on my consoles are Sony exclusives, and I play shooters on my Xbox.
@@rotiseriejones2137 I'm fine with checkerboard as long as it's checkerboard 4K60. Games like Battlefield V, DMC5 look amazing on X1X. Even though I have a gtx1080(and soon rtx2080) I can't get into pc gaming.
The FOV feels so claustrophobic; is it to save on performance?
Good Game, Good Patch, Thank You DF
I guess that has been a silver lining of waiting for it to arrive in the mail. Tech issues are being sorted out while I wait.
@@AKSBSU the game is very playable with very few framedrops yet, gunplay is so aweful it hurts the fun so much my man, its so so bad that im gonna be a good pal to you and tell you this now, melee would seem the go-to at first but before limiting yourself to that just take the repair melee weapons in the field skill then immidiately skill up ranged tree, 'focus' and accuracy skills, use only 2 of the nero injectors on stamina and all the rest for the 'focus' in the first region forget health upgrade game throws you shitloads of bandages and bandage craft materials. Abuse focus to land back to back headshots, they give much more xp, only 2 xp types =kill or headshot kill. As soon as you got all focus/accuracy skills start on melee tree and have a much more enjoyable time. Plus this game rarely rewards exploring so don't take this game as an actual open-world just search places if you need materials, this is like a realistic walking dead game.
I have a ssd on my ps4 pro and I don't feel a lot down frame..... I see just in begging with shopper cut scene but I don't feel nothing else....
It seems to happen the more you play or unlock but I could be wrong, I played 5hrs yesterday and it was fine but it's exactly like they said in the video today after I played for the same 5hrs.
@@solid_snake9708 maybe... But (no spoilers) I already have 3 main camps and I don't see a lot downframes.... But I I'll test one thing I I'll full my ssd and star another campaign to see if I have problems 👍👍👍👍
@@filipemikitopaiva Yea I'm getting below 20fps for sure, my ssd is pretty much spot on half full. I haven't done a simple restart yet so will have to try that and get back to you.
Better wait for a sale probaly drop 50% off during e3 week
Why it's great and runs perfectly on the PRO as digital foundry show.
I'll wait for a 75% drop before even considering it just like I did with horizon.
@@artoriasoftheabyss1575 it's the better way to do it considering there are yearly big open world titles that all hit the same check box of content.
Monster spawn clearing, camp raid/clearing, collecting, basic as hell crafting, and so on. On top of brain dead human AI.
How are you measuring the frames per second how did you hook your PlayStation up are using a monitor with on screen display
Unreal Engine always having problems
It's weird to me that they didn't have an inhouse engine.
all engine are.
Gears of War 4 is a technical masterpiece on X1 and PC. Unreal 4 is fine. It's up to the devs how they are using it.
@Walther Penne Biased, much?
John the high pitch from your voice due to the device your talking in , killing my ears
Is it the room your in or the mic your on?
I'm waiting for the remaster on PS5 which I will be able to play at 60 fps.
Lol im done with PS the 4th will be the last one for me
@@TMoDDD Why?
thats silly why wait
maybe in 3 years..
Great analysis but Leadbetter's talking in a box ruined it a bit
Always need to remind myself... Don't read the comments.
It's curious to hear Richard and John mostly praise the game with some discussion of tech problems, yet some of the commenters act like they said it looks and performs worse than Life of Black Tiger.
Cant handle the truth huh? Stay in your safe place.
The performance is terrible and I can't help but wonder where's the fun in this game...I need to know
You should really adress the later part of the map, it runs like shit on Pro, especially on the bike, can not imagine how it would be on base PS4.
Crater Lake and Wizzard Island (the last two camps) are where the framerate and frame pacing are the worst and it made my experience less enjoyable in the end game.
I just got there over the weekend. It runs like absolute garbage. It stuttered for so long a few times I thought my game was frozen. Not sure why it's so much worse than the earlier portion of the game. Maybe all the dust and other effects on screen? They really need to fix it.
Worst thing is that my comment pre-dates the latest patch and maybe one before that and they haven't resolved anything.
@@gunslingerplays Yes they haven't fixed it yet that's for sure. It's unfortunate. Usually first party Sony games are not like this.
Did you test how to respawn the bike 🤣
Thanks for the performance test, can u please test the performance of the game on ps4 pro at 1080p resolution???
@A B
But, why does it suck? Been playing and enjoying without any updates. Straight ver. 1.00 and it's pretty damn good as it is. I stayed away because of dumb comments like this so I'd like to hear the reasoning.
The game is a broken mess especially once you start exploring the frame drop is unreal I have the pro version the game is so poorly optimized im surprised Sony let them release this
Muhammad Jamal ikr I thought I’m only one who having this problem
Same here
Bruhhh same I don’t really care but it’s just like why ? It’s probably cuz I haven’t updated it since I don’t have internet but idk
Unfortunately Digital Foundry don't care about "old" games, except for Switch, so they don't analyze further more after all the updates and patches.