It’s even more impressive than that. Sasaki died YOUNG. His prime is as an old man because even after death he kept fighting, losing, and learning. This is a man who never stops getting better. This is humanity’s greatest loser.
@@yajat5477 Finally,someone else who agrees that Kinnikuman(Muscleman)is underrated and a lost art.Everyone should know where modern shonen got its tropes from.
Imagine a god being so badass that you slap your own god brother out of the history books, as if he never existed. Now imagine being a mere human and slapping that badass god. That is an underdog I can get down with.
Why do people say that this is the worst fight? Sasaki was a badass. His backstory was amazing. The choreography was outstanding. The message of the fight was great. AND HE WAS THE FIRST ONE TO KILL A GOD!
I would agree that people didn't like it since the winner was very obvious early on, Poseidon's entire character was: "Humans are worthless" basically. the other characters had at least some depth to them. plus it basically followed a time tested Shonen fight against an end boss where the protagonist has a lot of hardships during the fight and still overcomes the villain.
@@Gilgamesh-em6ru ohhh I see. I get it. But u kinda agree it underdogs story just tugs d heart strings of everyone even if u noe its coming. Its just too good
Poseidon never used his 100%, he was soooo arrogant and full of himself (he wanted to win by only use brute force to demonstrate that just that was what he needed to win the scanner of sasaki, he was so proud that for him using too much force for a human was a sin, a human don't deserve full commitment from a god) i really liked that, poseidon is the "avatar" of the superiority complex of the gods, and that's a huge weak point, if you act like that you can lose even of you have all the means to win
Poseidon could've really just finished the fight if he wasn't so arrogant the dude literally destroyed Sasaki's weapon and let sasaki monologue when he could've just easily killed him then and there and out of all the the fights Poseidon caused the most damage to the arena dude literally reduced it to chunks
Sasaki literally goes through hundreds if not thousands of scenarios with how the start of the fight would go and died in all of them except the one that he decides would at least give him the highest probability of survival, if Poseidon had started the fight immediately with an attack he would probably have won, but Sasaki had gotten quite a bit of data from the time they took just standing where they were at the start of the fight, all of that and what you and the other people here wrote ended up being his downfall
What I thought was cool was in one of Sasaki's flashbacks, his master told him that "when you lose your weapon you must fight with your fist, when you lose your fist you must fight with your teeth", which is what Poseidon did at the final showdown.
this is not related to that fight but Lu Bu also did that. he lose his feet then he fight with Red Hare (Lu Bu horse), he lose his arms and his weapn then he fight with all he got. really show you they are proud warrior that'll keep face forward no matter what they loses and what it cost.
Okay something need to be said about Poseidon he is not arrogant, at least in his eyes. His attitude his outlook and disdain for the majority of his fellow gods is to him the most natural state of being for he is a god. He despises his fellow gods and call them filth because they admire and rely on him and to do that is to admit in some capacity that you are lesser. And a god should not be lesser. He shal never look someone in the eye and let them live for to do that is to see them as an equal and a god has none. No need for support schemes or struggle if he wishes then so it shall be for such are the gods. For someone like him the very existence of Sasaki the embodiment of evolution is heresy one that he shall never accept even as that lowly human defeats him
I hope the next upcoming fights are: -Rasputin(The undying man)VS Anubis(The God of death) -Nikola Tesla(Modern lightning)VS Susanoo no Mikoto(Ancient lighting) -Simo Häyhä(Sniper)VS Apollo(Arrow and bow) -Qin Shi Huang(The man who started an empire)VS Buddha(The man who started a religion) -Sakata Kintoki(aka Kintaro,The demon slayer)VS Beelzebub(A demon) -Okita Souji(A policeman)VS Bishamonten(The punisher of evildoers) -Michel Nostradamus(Human's prophet)VS Odin(God's prophet) -King Leonidas(The honourable laconic fighter)VS Loki(The dirty talkative fighter)
I dont think predictability is a valid factor to judge the fights by. For starters, you can draw from the themes and tropes to accurately predict the outcome of each fight. While this one might be *more* predictable, it is not the only predictable fight by any means in terms of the final result. The only thing that's truly unknown is how we're going to get there. A story's job is not to "be unpredictable". It's like sex, the goal is to bring about a satisfying climax, not make you go, "Oh I really didn't expect that..."
Playing with the predictable is something that Better Call Saul is great at, especially if you watched Breaking Bad. We know the outcome of this one character, Saul, but before Saul he was Jimmy. How did he got there as Saul is the entire narrative of the prequel but made in a way that hooks you. Predictability is not bad, it's the execution which matters. Sasaki vs Poseidon executed the path to the outcme, perfectly.
Also, GRR Martin has said his piece on this that agrees with you. If you set expectations you should match them, not subvert them. Subversion should be used sparingly. His full thing about it is honest and and enjoyable.
This was my favorite fight so far. The lack of unpredictability of the result is made up for by the unpredictability of how that result will come to pass. We know Sasaki will win. It makes sense from a narrative perspective, but we also know his style is to learn about his opponent and then figure out how to defeat them via gruesome repetition, and that will simply not fly in this fight. He only has one shot. On the other hand we have Poseidon, who is the epithome of godhood. A being so far above humanity that he does not even acknowledge Sasaki's presence for a good portion of the fight. We are told he is close to Zeus in power and then shown that he can even one-shot other gods. Not only that, Poseidon is feared enough amongst his peers that when he says someone never existed, everyone agrees. During the fight itself, every time we think Sasaki has finally gotten the upper hand, Poseidon just doubles down and starts pushing harder. It gets to a point that the promissed victory just does not seem plausible anymore, and we start to accept that it might just be 3x0 for the gods. And therein lies the beauty of this fight. We know Sasaki will win, we know he MUST win, but we simply cannot see how. Knowing is not believing, and when we see how much of a disavantage Sasaki is in, it's hard to have faith in humanity's greatest loser, so when he finally pulls through, it is cathartic. It feels like all the hard work and desperate efforts of humanity have finally bore fruit.
I cannot wait to see what the author has in store for both Sasaki and Jack next, both of them did finish their fights but it looks like they will have a much bigger role later and have way more development as well.
Honestly I want to see how this author makes other things because they seem to have a wonderful ability to tell a story. You get this tournament against gods where humanity has to win so you know how some of the fights are going to go from minute one because there is going to be a finals. Spoilers It started off with a loss which is somewhat unexpected because it writes the author into a corner. Then Adam loses, but the author has set up the plot for a turn around after only the second fight. He then uses the underdog card to make the post Adam fight we all know should be a win into an interesting story. Then follows it up with a character we don't want to win so the readers can't tell anymore again, and when he does win then we are 2-2. That means going into the next fight we again have no clue. He has written this in a way that the readers will never be sure who wins in a tournament arc and the one guy who we do know was foreshadowed super hard in the previous fight and had a really interesting story.
@@rrteppo to be hoenst, I can see it be a true war by the end and not just tournament, I can even see some humans join Gods in eliminating humanity as well.
The ending of this fight was perfect. Posideon finally acknowledges Sasaki as his body falls to pieces. Meanwhile Gheir and Brundhilde as well as master swordsmen throughout history begin to weep with pride and joy and even Sasaki can’t help but cry. It’s his 1st win and it matters
There is something that I want to point out. In this fight, after much struggle, Sasaki made Poseidon bleed, even if it was just a cut on the cheek at first. I find that a great encapsulation of the concept that "If a god bleeds then he can be killed". Plus it made me root even more for Sasaki to beat the insurmountable wall that is Poseidon.
i honestly love this poseidon he was menacing and merciless on another level and more importantly his past had me shook, even though his brother was a jerk i truly felt bad for him
Arthur: “A man of your talents is obvious!” Kojiro: “hold on” Arthur: “You are Japan’s famed swordsman, Miyamoto Musashi!” Kojiro: *sigh* “No I am not Miyamoto Musashi. Or as he should be called, PROGENITOR OF BEING A HACK!” Arthur: “Oh my gosh you’re Sasuki Kojiro...”
Even tho he was “worlds greatest loser” it seem like he really never lost. he legit has surpassed all battles and is able to read movements I believe this was a great fight and I also felt like he’s “ first win” was a great why of showing a fight between someone who has never lost who has always looked down on everyone even he’s own brother vs someone who has only known loss I feel like sasaki won all he’s fights because he has surpassed everyone of his opponents. Also love love love the content man keep it up legit you made me wanna read this
I, too, would rank this fight as the third best out of the four official ones we've seen so far. However, I think it's importance of a fight is not thought about enough (at least, in my opinion). The gods are portrayed as these undefeatable beings, and humanity is portrayed as plain mortals who have no chance of saving themselves. In this fight, we are represented by Sasaki, a man who, despite failures after failures, picks himself up and continues to learn and grow. He is an example of that characteristic of humans that keeps us growing, improving, and advancing as individuals and as a species the same way Jack the Ripper is an example of humanity's dark ability to discard morality. The fact that such a man is able to defeat a god who is the epitome of a cold-hearted god shows that humans are beings who don't give up. We are beings who will get back up and save ourselves, even if salvation feels so far away. Yes, I agree that this fight was trapped under the shadow of Adam vs. Zeus, but the importance of this fight for humanity is not something that can be ignored.
Sasaki vs Poseidon is thematically an amazing fight. The first two fights were represented by two of the biggest names in human history in the eyes of the manga’s universe, The Strongest in the Three Kingdoms and the World’s First Man. Those were power moves that no one really expected to lose, but they did. Brynhildr was struggling to choose at this point, only for Sasaki Kojiro to volunteer himself. Kojiro was not just the World’s Greatest Loser, but he was just an ordinary swordsman in a world where the likes of Raiden Tameemon and Adam exist. In terms of swordsmanship, Okita Souji was arguably a more obvious pick than him. He’s not a gifted genius, nor is he a famed warmonger. He is a man, who picked up a drying pole and thought it was fun. And he was against Poseidon, the only other Greek God as known as Zeus. In the manga, he’s considered the most “Godlike” of gods. Whatever he said, goes, even if it was something like erasing his older brother from history. He does not even acknowledge the presence of anyone above or beneath him, because he is a “God.” So the fight was between the most Godly of Gods and the most Human of Humans. And what won Kojiro his fight was the most powerful aspect a human has in their disposal, the ability to learn from their mistakes. As Japan’s biggest loser, Kojiro had the time and experience to evaluate how he can win his fights over and over, hence his “ultimate scanner” ability. He’s always making decisions, reading those decisions and finding where he dies and how he lives. He paid attention to his opponent, while Poseidon took a while to even look at him. Sasaki’s ultimate reason for winning was because he never stopped learning from his mistakes and his opponents. He continues to age even after his death because he always learns, never reaching his peak.
I would love to watch you cover Thor vs Lu Bu, mainly because it gets a lot of flack for being the first fight and being kind of simple, even though I believe it works to its charm. Also, another thing that I really liked about this fight was the contrast between Posidon's and Sasaki's backstories, how one had everyone behind him, while the other had no one, how one treasured the bonds he forged with his opponents, while the other disregarded them and called them trash. How one looked down on all life while the other wanted to never stop looking up.
I agree with you. I think it's simplicity is the best aspect of the fight and I find it genius how they introduce the Volund mechanic in this fight. The ending of Lu bu vs Thor is one that made me respect both characters (not as much as some others but they are great imo).
It just looks like poseidon is tired of everything, the bags under his eyes makes him look very depressed. He also didnt put a lot of """"" punch """"" in the fight, his reaction were bland. Looks like he just wanted out but didnt whant to break his god attitude.
That's just how he looks in general. At the end when he realised he was getting beaten, you could see the distress on the dudes face. I mean he literally curses Sasaki out right before he dies lmao
@@controlcon yeah i see what you mean but then again, when we hear that he's the strongest god and whatnot. I don't believe he was distressed, maybe annoyed to die from a human, but even then his reaction were lacking a certain will, just like when you loose when playing a game against someone you though you could beat, he was just like "ah you piece of shit". I believe he spent so much time being praised as the strongest (beside zeus and odin) that it all became boring to him. He just stood ther waiting for sasaki to enter his range and insta-kill him. Maybe i'm a little too into it lmao
I have this theory that the overall result will end up with humans winning only the underdog fights. Highlighting questionable morality, gaining strength through losses, and so on feels as though the author is working towards a message that essentially is "The good thing about humanity can be found when looking at the bad things about humans". Humans will win, while proving that their inferiority to the Gods paradoxically is what makes them superior.
While that works as a theme after a while something like that would really hurt the manga overall. One of the biggest selling points of this manga at least for me is that you can never tell who will win until the end, and the biggest flaw of this fight was that the winner was obvious from the start. If only the underdogs won after a while the readers would catch on and there wouldn't be anymore stakes to any fight since you already know who will win
I have a theory, and so far it's coming true, that if humans win it will be through skill technique intelligence Etc and not brute strength or endurance, we simply cannot match the Gods in those aspects well enough but everything else about us can equal or exceed them
@@razzamatronic9882 i mean raido Is kicking shiva's ass right now in pure strength, and adam would have steamrolled anyone but Zeus so that's not exactly true
Sasaki is a great character here's why, he wasn't craving fame or glory or tried proving to people that he's great he wanted to become great only for himself he was so grateful for the people who were much experienced than him and surpassed them without bragging about it. Sasaki is an inspiration to every achiever.
It would have been better if *Sasaki Kojiro vs. Poseidon* happened as the 2nd fight of Record of Ragnarok. The result wouldn't have been as predictable as Poseidon's moves when Sasaki goes Sherlock Holmes mode
Yeah but part of what makes it so conpelling is that poseidon is the older brother of zeus or the "zeus of the sea" so he compared to zeus who we previously saw winning against adam. Also he is said to be the most godly of the gods and killing another broth er r of zeus and poseidon who was arguably probably seen in the same level as zeus and poseidon though he killed him with ease. So being hyped jp for him only works cause we know how strong zeus is already
@@vietanhtran6431 Yeah but we already knew that Poseidon was gonna lose from the start. The moment that Kojiro "died 18 times" it was so obviously over already, that it was kinda boring. Kojiro's and Poseidon's personal stories were the interesting part, since the main fight was just kinda done already.
@@vietanhtran6431, your reply still can't counter the fact that Sasaki Kojiro vs. Poseidon as the 3rd fight is a blatantly obvious win for the humans. You simply added context, not counter-arguments.
@@deanpogi7026 Well, the thing is Adam’s loss was a setup for the idea behind humanity’s victories so far. Even though Adam could match Zeus blow for blow, punch for punch, he was still less durable. Humans are flimsier than the gods. Even someone as ridiculously badass as Adam can’t win in a contest of strength. If humanity wants to win, they will have to fight smarter, not harder. Sasaki wins by being more flexible than Poseidon, more adaptable, rather than taking him head on as Adam and Lu Bu tried to. Sasaki’s fight had to be the third (and thus somewhat predictable in its outcome) so that humanity’s dire straits are clear to the viewer. Going toe to toe with the gods is impossible. Jack won by being sneaky, devious, and treacherous, for example. He was smart enough to realize he has no chance against Heracles, and so controlled the fight from beginning to end through other means. Well, that’s how I interpret the intent behind the way things have turned out so far, at least. I could very well be wrong.
@@Nobythulhu now that I think about it, yeah. The gods are insanely durable. Thor got slashed straight through the chest and was unbothered, zeus got his neck snapped and simply put it back into place, and even poseidon could continue with literally his arms cut off. Meanwhile Lu Bu had his legs broken and adam went blind. The gods main advantage was their durability.
@@eliasmagus5086 Well the other fights were so much more interesting but that's just my opinion. Speaking objectively the adam and Jack the ripper fights were much more surprising and the characters weren't so one dimensional. Poseidon was just a asshole and the old guy(I forgot his name) was just a basic shounen character. He was a weak charismatic underdog who proved hard work beats talent. Then at the of the fight got a power up and won the fight.
@Hilman Shaharuddin I loved Sasaki's backstory and mentality so much but in terms of emotional impact yeah that adam fight was way more gripping..... and now that I think of it the action itself was awesome too. the anime will settle this haha.
Something I love about this manga is that is has a way to portrait the simple pleasure of seeing something epic. From flashbacks, to the fights to the characters to the very premise, everything is built to look and feel epic. The moment a man trains his strength and technique to the point he finally managed to cut the heavens. The moment the father of all mankind, blind and beaten, catch a god by the hair to keep on fighting. The moment humans as a whole, the amalgamation of all our experience and learning in the art of the blade, manages to draw first blood on the gods. Everything is carefully crafted to built up to those moments, the fights themselves are just a vehicle to drive us there.
Kinda scared right now, cause I was just reading this fight cause it was my favourite and while I'm entering jack vs Hercules and then I just see this video.
I feel like this fight had the deepest contrast in ideology of the series so far. Poseidon detested imperfection to the point that killed his brother as he was not worthy to be a god. Sasaki rose the level of gods by learning from his losses and constantly improving. Being a perfectionist was reflected in Poseidon's cold and stern personality, while Sasaki was shown to be very easy going as he was able to except failure and not get hung up on his flaws. The point of the fight was to show the we are not perfect gods and obsessing over failure will wear down on you and turn you into a bitter person. However, using your failures as lessons to help you grow is how maximize your human potential and prevent you from sulking over failure.
Although not being my favorite fight in the series, I really love the symbolism that writer wrote in the fight. For example, when the katana reached the bottom of the sea, it meant that Sasaki had already achieved the power that matches Poseidon. I mean, that was cool af.
These battles are very philosophical and deep, I’m a Dragonball die hard Fan and can see the similarities to the philosophy of some characters like Poseidon who truly acts like the Angels specifically mojito. They’re combat in this show is literally ultra instinct and Jiren level I loved how they showed the speed of Adam and Zeus punches which are faster than light, and Adam overheating is exactly what happened to Goku when he fought Jiren. This show has grown on me quick
One thing that puts me off in this fight is that Poseidon is supposed to be older than Zeus, but he looks like a teenager, while Zeus looks like he's about to have a heart attack.
After coming from the hype of Adam v Zeus, I can't tell you how "eh" this setup was... But goddamn it became one of my favorite fights I've read this 2020. I felt the hype in my bones, man.
I wish Poseidon had some back story where he was pressured to become perfect or something like that. But maybe humanizing the gods was detrimental to the story? IDK.
This being the 3rd fight helps with the unpredictability since you had 2 loses before: one was in a unpredictable fight; the other was in a unexpected ending where you wanted Adam to win. So with the greatest loser vs "strongest" god is like "the greatest loser will win, obviously. But Adam lost and maybe the authors know we know that the loser will win. They have something up their sleeves."
What? This being the third fight actually made it very predictable. Especially because we got an Underdog scenario after having two "non-underdogs" lose in a row. Kojiro winning was blatantly obvious. The interesting part of the fight is how he was gonna win it, not if.
@@skeletonwar4445 idk bout that chief, those cultures have a massive hard-on for tragic stories. I thought he was gonna lose again and he would be known as the guy who would never have a win and be erased from existence
What I really loved about this fight was that Poseidon really embodied the sea He doesn’t care about anyone like the sea for fishermen He’ll kill whoever is stupid enough to annoy him like a storm in the ocean And through out the fight Poseidon kept showing more and more the depth of his power until Sasaki finally reached the bottom
i think the thing your missing is the fact that this fights thematic and emotional fight was about what it meant to work hard through perfect humility for the sole reason of improving yourself because YOU have decided that you wish to grow stronger as opposed to being told your a god and that gods are perfect and should need no one no matter what as sasaki literally called out with however small, poseidons immedeate recation to the line "...isnt that kinda depressing though?" really says it all. sasaki through is experience hasnt just learned how to fight but it could be said is the epitome of what it means to be human or in other words, the true perfect human unlike adam who waas modeled after gods and was simply the blueprint for the human race. beyond that it is made clear if you watch throughout the fight that what makes us human is failure and our willingness to grow from it and our capabiliy to learn from all our other fellow humans how it is we can better oursellves in ALL regards.
@@MrFlubber I read the book partially. It was originally written for martial artists but the book transcended into a leadership, strategy and people-skill book for all common people who wants to get ahead of the curve. I recommend you go to Audiobooks.
I went and read Vagabond manga after watching this, then I rewatched it and how they themed the fights message was really nice, I liked it way more than LuBu. I love LuBu but that fight was a bit... slow, slower than normal due to it being the first and a lot of explaining other than Lu Bus history. But after looking into Sasaki, it felt good that all that training went somewhere in the end. Pulled through at humanities finest hour. That hit me in the heart. I liked it.
I remember after finishing reading the adam versus zeus and saw the next cover of the 3rd fight. I already thought "ah kojiro will win". I still enjoy the story of kojiro in this manga though.
That fight is my favorite for now, and while looking back at it, it is not as dynamic as the others, I think what makes me love it so much is the contrat between Poseidon and Sasaki, who I think iis the best besides Heracles and Jack. On one side we have the epitome of godhood : no need for ally, for support, for scheme, just uncontested superiority. On the other, Sasaki is the epitome of humanity : getting kicked down, losing, having to rely on other to get back up stronger. Poseidon is unparalleled because he is a god who needs no other gods, Sasaki is unparalleled because he is a human who took all the support and adversity from those he knew and turned it into an ultimate path.
This fight was so well written that I cried tears of joy for him I'm not normally one to feel any emotion watching or reading anything, the fights from this manga/anime are some of most emotionally impactful media I've seen in a long time
while u concentrate on the underdog part of the fight I personally find myself in awe over Sasaki's ability and love how towards the end it was shown as him falling into the depths of the ocean
The predictability of the fight is what endeared it to me, because I find myself often noticing the little hints in a story, and piecing together what's going to happen next, but Record of Ragnarok blew off my ability to discern how it was going to go by just how badass and over the top it was. By the third fight, I was into it, and that almost never happens to me, I don't usually get that immersed in a story, and I couldn't tell anymore what was going to happen, I saw the clues that are mentioned at the beginning of this video, but I didn't trust them anymore, I respected the Author enough to not think it was capable of manipulating even MY expectations, and so when it turns out I was right, I didn't feel disappointed, I felt humbled, and I silently congratulated the story Author for having bamboozled me to such a degree. Plus, at that point, I was pretty sure they had the balls to make humanity go down to 0-3, I didn't think that the Author couldn't let Sasaki lose, further increasing my uncertainty.
What I love in this fight is the writer gave Poseidon credit, made him really worthy god, not like other shows or games, they made him weak and focused on Zeus
Honestly, the only thing that carried the Adam fight was the misconception that he hated the gods and was fighting for revenge yet he was just a man trying to protect his children. So far I think the fights have only gotten better, although I haven't started Raiden vs Shiva yet, giving it a bit of a break so I can binge a fight or two.
I really like how the end of the fight has Poseidon using the same tactic that that one guy in Sasaki’s backstory was yelling at Sasaki. ‘Fight. If you lose your weapon, use your hands. If you lose your hands, use your teeth.’
I personally didn’t feel anything at all for Thor or Zeus, but Lu Bu was alright, and Adam was a gigachad. Sasaki and Poseidon I really vibed with. Obviously Sasaki carried, but I feel like he supported Poseidon more than Adam supported Zeus. Oh, and Jack vs Heracles was god tier through and through, definitely my favorite fight and pair of characters.
Looking at Poseidon's and Sasaki's character design something just popped into my head. It reminded me of a speech in anime I haven't heard or remembered in years, but for some reason this fight brought it to my mind. The 'perfect being',you said? Well.... I have to tell you the honest truth, as I see it. In this world, nothing perfect exists. The truth of the matter is, I despise perfection. If something is truly perfect, that's it. The bottom line becomes. There is no room for imagination. No space for intelligence. Or ability. Or improvement! Do you understand?! It's a really old quote from Bleach by Mayuri. Old wrinkly man that is known for being imperfect. Then there's a Young god that looks like a Greek sculpture (lol) It just seems so poetic.
There's a lot symbolically that plays into this fight, but also the structure of the prior two fights set up for this to be an amazing victory for humanity. Round 1 has Thor being challenged but not really having to use any effort and just winning somewhat easily Round 2 while Zeus wins, Adam keeps pace and shows even the God of Gods that humans can put up a fight. Round 3 rides off that idea and finally solitifies humanity's first win, showing the gods they can't take humans lightly. While I love Adam vs Zeus more, this fight has a great message to it through all of it.
The combination and evolution of spirit of both Sasaki and Valkyrie Hrist made the fight even better. Hrist responded very well to Sasaki's will to fight by splitting her powers into two.
I just recently watched the anime of Sasaki Kojiro vs Poseidon.. and.. I don't really like how Sasaki is portrayed. The fight shows a very deep meaning but it should be understood using the real portray of Sasaki and Musashi. Sasaki was a master swordman, not really the underdog who never won anything, he was one of the best duellist of Japan, and he mastered the Nodachi and upon his skills he created a new school of fighting.. he was nicknamed "The Demon of the Eastern Provinces" he wasn't a random underdog.. On the other hand Musashi started trying to master a katana but then he found himself fighting with katana/wakizashi and he started mastering the art of the 2 swords. both of them never lost a duel until that fatal day on the beach where Musashi killed Sasaki using his own style of weapon, the greatsword. Now.. I wan't to point out a crucial thing, Musashi was the master of the 2 swords, Sasaki of the Greatsword. During the duel, Sasaki couldn't keep up with Poseidon using his signature style weapon, but than Hrist splitted herself in two gifting him the same two swords the one who killed him mastered, and during the final part, Sasaki's students mimicked the kata/cut of one sword but Musashi himself saw that the true potential and skills of Sasaki could be achieved with his own fighting style. The fact Sasaki won using Musashi's way of dueling is a crucial point based on historical records, and for me that was the best moment of the duel. I do hope the writers will find a way to let Sasaki and Musashi to talk about this, Sasaki understanding why two swords are better than one for a Samurai.
the thing is, sasaki in the series is a master swordsman, but due to him constantly searching for stronger opponents, his talent wasn't realized as people just knew that he kept losing, not realizing it was because he actively wanted to keep losing.
It could have been something greater. There was a moment when Sasaki and Poseidons' eyes met and his eyes lit up, I though the author would make it so that Poseidon slowly start to Enjoy the fight, maybe he would be moved by Sasaki, maybe have him talk a little more. Poseidon was damn silent for the while duration of that fight with most of the inner monologues belonging to Sasaki. But Nope, nothing happened, his eyes went back to being blackholes the next pannel. IT'S A DAMN SHAME. Edit: And because Sasaki was such an inspirational character, with many good quotes. I had hoped that some of it would've gotten through to Poseidon.
Poseidon is perfect. In his writing, mannerisms, minimalist dialogue. He's the other side of Thor. Every little word Jab that Sasaki makes, the better he understands Poseidon. Even his fighting style is just... Power and speed, he doesn't do anything fancy, he's swatting away a fly, never giving it recognition, the exact opposite of Thor. Its fun, because apart from every 2 fighters in a fight being some sort of Ying vs Yang, you can notice even more details and parallels. I'm slowly becoming afraid of how well this manga is written.
This is easily my favorite fight so far. I went in knowing the outcome and was still moved by the triumph. I think the key is that the fight doesn't overshadow Sasaki's journey. It is enough to show that he has learned from his opponents, inherited the art of the sword, and honed it to the point of rivaling a god's perfection. The journey built his character, and the fight against Poseidon was the test that proved it. It's a little disappointing - why put all that water around the stage if you're not going to use it? But the decision makes sense. Too many fancy maneuvers from Poseidon risk detracting from the theme.
The coolest part of this fight is when it plays on a common knowledge of who Sasaki Kojiro was in real life. I assume that title of "the world biggest loser" comes from the fact that IRL he was a last opponent of legendary swordsman Miyamoto Musashi and everybody who researched this topic know Kojiro only as "last opponent of Musashi who lost (in a super anime way at that)" Some other cool parts of the fight is that: He arrived at the duel on a boat. Just like Musashi did on the duel with Kojiro. When his volund broke he re-bankaided it into two swords and started to use Musashi's "Niten Ichiryu" which made Musashi in the arena to lose his shit.
You didn’t mention how one of Sasaki’s rivals in the crowd mentions something about if you lose both hands in a fight, use your mouth to hold your sword. This is perfectly mirrored by Poseidon’s desperation at the climax when he does everything in that quote, step by step.
Sasaki never truly gave up. Humanity's ultimate ability in this manga is the ability to continue to grow. Lu Bu, a man who fought tooth and nail for all of his strength, got Thor to enjoy a battle and smile like a maniac. Adam inspired ALL OF HUMANITY and fought even AFTER his death, refusing to allow his family and humanity to lose hope, refusing even in death to take a knee to his opponent. Sasaki LEARNED from his mistakes and with every single battle he "lost", he became stronger, combining dozens of swordsmen's styles and abilities and created the ultimate sword style that not only held its own against a god, but it also cut him down AND evolved further when he absorbed Posedion's speed. Jack AND Heracles proved that no matter if you strive for justice or evil, we all are human and we can always be redeemed. Our color may change, but Heracles proved that it is possible to fight with love in your heart and that you may change even the evilest man in history. The gods may be "perfect" but humanity has the ability to grow and exceed perfection. In fact, their IMPERFECTION is what made them all so strong. They never stopped striving to improve and grow, and as the manga states, the tip of the blade of humanity may touch the deep
So far this is my favorite fight. Sasaki represents humanity's ability to adapt and survive no matter the odds and become stronger than ourselves and come out better for it. I think Poseidon works because he's less of a character and more of a natural disaster. He feels nothing for the people he fights against, because things like that are beneath him. He's uncaring and torrential like a hurricane that destroys cities. It's a story of humans vs nature and how we've come so far, but still have places to go. That's just my take on the fight.
I think his greatest character development was that he stopped being selfish. He stopped thinking “it’s good enough to beat him in my mind” and actually went ahead and fought to win on the first try
Poseidon never loses his composure, he's an overbearing antagonist. When his hand is sliced off, he doesn't even wince, he catches it, crushes it, and proceeds into his next attack. I'd say Poseidon was composed, he as a god, looked down on Kyojiro, even after losing his arm, looked down on him. The world's greatest loser never stopped trying nor ever doubted the capability of his opponent. Every fight in this show is amazing
I love this fight a lot more then most people (I personally put it above Adam vs Zeus and under jtr vs herc) and that’s mainly because going into the fight I felt like humanity was gonna lose every fight until they have to win and with the pressure they will get through it so I thought he was going to lose until I saw his backstory and then I realized this gonna be the first dub and it was great from there
This is my fav fight in the anime so far. From the scene he entered in Brunhilde's chamber without anybody noticed, i was like this is the time a human will strike back against a God. And I didn't even know the source material yet.
I think there is another message to the fight that a lot people seem to be missing and i believe it is the reality of skill. What i mean by this is that what we know about poseidon is a bit vague and i might be wrong but it seems to suggest that it is water abilities that poseidon is the best at. This is significant in that it suggests that he has no real skill with his Trident and used it because he simply didn't think he needed his water powers. In comparison sasaki spent his entire life dedicated to the art of the sword and even after he died kept training. This is the exact opposite to poseidon and is why sasaki was the perfect opponent for poseidon.
I feel like while this fight is predictable, it’s still dope. Lots of anime (shounen especially) makes it fairly obvious who is going to win. This dosent make it any less good.
Sasaki's entrance where he calmes the waves created by Poseidon was enlightening
Hands down the hypest, a transition from serene to absolutely powerful cemented that it's gonna be one hell of a fight.
@Kyle Little @ imagine wasting time on a fanboy. U insecure guys that want to feel superior are a different breed lol 😂.
@Kyle Little If you can understand the concept of foreshadowing it is pretty enlightening.
I didn’t even notice that.
That was dope ASF
This manz prime is literally as an old man that just proves how badass he is
a troll old man defeats the most godliest god
The whole idea is that he never 'fell out' of his prime.
The man's constantly improving himself, it only makes sense
It’s even more impressive than that. Sasaki died YOUNG. His prime is as an old man because even after death he kept fighting, losing, and learning. This is a man who never stops getting better. This is humanity’s greatest loser.
@@BerserkGlazer200 proof you dont f#ck with old guys with a sword in anime XD
Let's not forget,humanity's first winner is the world's greatest loser.
Hey I see your profile photo it's good to have respect for muscle man it's truly an lost art
@@yajat5477 Finally,someone else who agrees that Kinnikuman(Muscleman)is underrated and a lost art.Everyone should know where modern shonen got its tropes from.
@@alexstergiou653 wait it has an japanese name we just called it muscle man sad the anime is cancelled
@@yajat5477 Yep that's his original name.You have seen Ultimate Muscle(Kinnikuman Nisei) starring Kinnikuman's son Kinniku Mantaro(Kid Muscle).
@@alexstergiou653 god just talking about it makes me want to read it
Imagine a god being so badass that you slap your own god brother out of the history books, as if he never existed. Now imagine being a mere human and slapping that badass god. That is an underdog I can get down with.
Imagine a God that has always been 100% perfect. To only get sliced and diced by a dude who never “won” a fight.
@@1234fivedude and that makes this fighr my favourite one
@@1234fivedude Are you winning kojiro?
@@1234fivedude Let's not let this distract us from Kojiro's horrible win/loss ratio lol
@@gil_11 doesnt matter when that only w is against literall god
Sasaki basically plays dark souls in his mind until he wins
I said that
Nah. He plays Katana Zero
Sekiro shadows die twice
Why do people say that this is the worst fight? Sasaki was a badass. His backstory was amazing. The choreography was outstanding. The message of the fight was great. AND HE WAS THE FIRST ONE TO KILL A GOD!
he comments on it a little ,it is the only fight the winner is obvious. But the fight itself is grewt
I would agree that people didn't like it since the winner was very obvious early on, Poseidon's entire character was: "Humans are worthless" basically. the other characters had at least some depth to them. plus it basically followed a time tested Shonen fight against an end boss where the protagonist has a lot of hardships during the fight and still overcomes the villain.
Maybe a lot of people hate on dis fight because of how d first winner for d humans is biasly a Japanese guy
@@asuradexterosity6512 the fight was good the story of underdog was just overplayed.
@@Gilgamesh-em6ru ohhh I see. I get it. But u kinda agree it underdogs story just tugs d heart strings of everyone even if u noe its coming. Its just too good
Poseidon never used his 100%, he was soooo arrogant and full of himself (he wanted to win by only use brute force to demonstrate that just that was what he needed to win the scanner of sasaki, he was so proud that for him using too much force for a human was a sin, a human don't deserve full commitment from a god) i really liked that, poseidon is the "avatar" of the superiority complex of the gods, and that's a huge weak point, if you act like that you can lose even of you have all the means to win
Basically Gilgamesh
@Future Phenomenon the same shit that happened in fate UBW Gilgamesh vs shirou when he hesitated to use ea
Poseidon could've really just finished the fight if he wasn't so arrogant the dude literally destroyed Sasaki's weapon and let sasaki monologue when he could've just easily killed him then and there and out of all the the fights Poseidon caused the most damage to the arena dude literally reduced it to chunks
Sasaki literally goes through hundreds if not thousands of scenarios with how the start of the fight would go and died in all of them except the one that he decides would at least give him the highest probability of survival, if Poseidon had started the fight immediately with an attack he would probably have won, but Sasaki had gotten quite a bit of data from the time they took just standing where they were at the start of the fight, all of that and what you and the other people here wrote ended up being his downfall
He didn't even pull a trump card either like the other gods did, all he did was make his attacks faster and stronger.
What I thought was cool was in one of Sasaki's flashbacks, his master told him that "when you lose your weapon you must fight with your fist, when you lose your fist you must fight with your teeth", which is what Poseidon did at the final showdown.
I can't believe I'm just realizing this now...
This fight is enlightenment.
this is not related to that fight but Lu Bu also did that.
he lose his feet then he fight with Red Hare (Lu Bu horse), he lose his arms and his weapn then he fight with all he got.
really show you they are proud warrior that'll keep face forward no matter what they loses and what it cost.
"Well the sea god is just a giant, swimming, swallow. And I do know a thing or two about killing swallow"
Sasaki Kojiro
"Gods are like Dragons, really. Just slightly bigger swallows."
-Regend
Saviour of france
THE REGEND
Noticed ur pfp, and id like to ask if humanity had an smt protagonist on their side, what would happen?
@@infoniwceniocwdhvredidhave8126 Gods would quiver before him
Okay something need to be said about Poseidon he is not arrogant, at least in his eyes. His attitude his outlook and disdain for the majority of his fellow gods is to him the most natural state of being for he is a god. He despises his fellow gods and call them filth because they admire and rely on him and to do that is to admit in some capacity that you are lesser. And a god should not be lesser. He shal never look someone in the eye and let them live for to do that is to see them as an equal and a god has none. No need for support schemes or struggle if he wishes then so it shall be for such are the gods. For someone like him the very existence of Sasaki the embodiment of evolution is heresy one that he shall never accept even as that lowly human defeats him
This is why I like Poseidon
He is what a god is... A True God
@@dumaiaff Yeah, I totaly agree. He's my favorite god
Bro that’s arrogance lmao made him look even more arrogant
@@zm5470 Lol exactly.
I hope the next upcoming fights are:
-Rasputin(The undying man)VS Anubis(The God of death)
-Nikola Tesla(Modern lightning)VS Susanoo no Mikoto(Ancient lighting)
-Simo Häyhä(Sniper)VS Apollo(Arrow and bow)
-Qin Shi Huang(The man who started an empire)VS Buddha(The man who started a religion)
-Sakata Kintoki(aka Kintaro,The demon slayer)VS Beelzebub(A demon)
-Okita Souji(A policeman)VS Bishamonten(The punisher of evildoers)
-Michel Nostradamus(Human's prophet)VS Odin(God's prophet)
-King Leonidas(The honourable laconic fighter)VS Loki(The dirty talkative fighter)
For the last fight
Odin vs king Leonidas
I am the only person that wants Nikola Tesla to face Odin xd
@@lazarlemajic4926 that would be dope
@@Travelling_Heart15 glad to hear that!
@@firefalcon5441 Yeah,the fight between the most laconic characters.
I dont think predictability is a valid factor to judge the fights by. For starters, you can draw from the themes and tropes to accurately predict the outcome of each fight. While this one might be *more* predictable, it is not the only predictable fight by any means in terms of the final result. The only thing that's truly unknown is how we're going to get there. A story's job is not to "be unpredictable". It's like sex, the goal is to bring about a satisfying climax, not make you go, "Oh I really didn't expect that..."
A strange but accurate comparison
It's kinda like how we already know that luffy will becoming the pirate king, whats exciting is how he's going to achieve that
Playing with the predictable is something that Better Call Saul is great at, especially if you watched Breaking Bad. We know the outcome of this one character, Saul, but before Saul he was Jimmy. How did he got there as Saul is the entire narrative of the prequel but made in a way that hooks you.
Predictability is not bad, it's the execution which matters.
Sasaki vs Poseidon executed the path to the outcme, perfectly.
Also, GRR Martin has said his piece on this that agrees with you. If you set expectations you should match them, not subvert them. Subversion should be used sparingly. His full thing about it is honest and and enjoyable.
That is quite a comparison...
THIS IS MY FAVORITE FIGHT IN THE SERIS
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This was my favorite fight so far. The lack of unpredictability of the result is made up for by the unpredictability of how that result will come to pass. We know Sasaki will win. It makes sense from a narrative perspective, but we also know his style is to learn about his opponent and then figure out how to defeat them via gruesome repetition, and that will simply not fly in this fight. He only has one shot.
On the other hand we have Poseidon, who is the epithome of godhood. A being so far above humanity that he does not even acknowledge Sasaki's presence for a good portion of the fight. We are told he is close to Zeus in power and then shown that he can even one-shot other gods. Not only that, Poseidon is feared enough amongst his peers that when he says someone never existed, everyone agrees.
During the fight itself, every time we think Sasaki has finally gotten the upper hand, Poseidon just doubles down and starts pushing harder. It gets to a point that the promissed victory just does not seem plausible anymore, and we start to accept that it might just be 3x0 for the gods.
And therein lies the beauty of this fight. We know Sasaki will win, we know he MUST win, but we simply cannot see how. Knowing is not believing, and when we see how much of a disavantage Sasaki is in, it's hard to have faith in humanity's greatest loser, so when he finally pulls through, it is cathartic. It feels like all the hard work and desperate efforts of humanity have finally bore fruit.
I cannot wait to see what the author has in store for both Sasaki and Jack next, both of them did finish their fights but it looks like they will have a much bigger role later and have way more development as well.
Honestly I want to see how this author makes other things because they seem to have a wonderful ability to tell a story. You get this tournament against gods where humanity has to win so you know how some of the fights are going to go from minute one because there is going to be a finals. Spoilers
It started off with a loss which is somewhat unexpected because it writes the author into a corner. Then Adam loses, but the author has set up the plot for a turn around after only the second fight. He then uses the underdog card to make the post Adam fight we all know should be a win into an interesting story. Then follows it up with a character we don't want to win so the readers can't tell anymore again, and when he does win then we are 2-2. That means going into the next fight we again have no clue. He has written this in a way that the readers will never be sure who wins in a tournament arc and the one guy who we do know was foreshadowed super hard in the previous fight and had a really interesting story.
@@rrteppo yeah, god knows whos going to win between raiden and shiva, it could go both ways
@@rrteppo to be hoenst, I can see it be a true war by the end and not just tournament, I can even see some humans join Gods in eliminating humanity as well.
@@lazarlemajic4926 bro, how could they do that after big daddy adam sacrificed himself to save them all?
@@ProjektTaku Amen, I wouldn't take disrespect to baddy daddy addy.
The ending of this fight was perfect. Posideon finally acknowledges Sasaki as his body falls to pieces. Meanwhile Gheir and Brundhilde as well as master swordsmen throughout history begin to weep with pride and joy and even Sasaki can’t help but cry. It’s his 1st win and it matters
To be honest I cant really find a scene where gheir doesnt have tears streaming from her eyes lol
@@MrFlubber true
nah, my guy literally called him with his final words
"You little fish."
@@MrFlubber which is adorable honestly
@@ProjektTaku yep he was so arrogant he didn't even give a sliver of acknowledgement for his worthy enemy
There is something that I want to point out. In this fight, after much struggle, Sasaki made Poseidon bleed, even if it was just a cut on the cheek at first. I find that a great encapsulation of the concept that "If a god bleeds then he can be killed". Plus it made me root even more for Sasaki to beat the insurmountable wall that is Poseidon.
i honestly love this poseidon he was menacing and merciless on another level and more importantly his past had me shook, even though his brother was a jerk i truly felt bad for him
Arthur: “A man of your talents is obvious!”
Kojiro: “hold on”
Arthur: “You are Japan’s famed swordsman, Miyamoto Musashi!”
Kojiro: *sigh* “No I am not Miyamoto Musashi. Or as he should be called, PROGENITOR OF BEING A HACK!”
Arthur: “Oh my gosh you’re Sasuki Kojiro...”
As far as I am concerned Sasaki kojiro is from, Fate, Vagabond, and Record of Ragnarock are the same person.
One of the best funniest abridges ever😂😂
@@TK-oj8dt can uh you just pretend i'm saber, real saber
Sa sucky kojiro is my favourite assassin
Dreadful King flattery will get you everywhere real Saber, except of course through those gates.
"How to write a badass old dude"
Even tho he was “worlds greatest loser” it seem like he really never lost. he legit has surpassed all battles and is able to read movements I believe this was a great fight and I also felt like he’s “ first win” was a great why of showing a fight between someone who has never lost who has always looked down on everyone even he’s own brother vs someone who has only known loss I feel like sasaki won all he’s fights because he has surpassed everyone of his opponents. Also love love love the content man keep it up legit you made me wanna read this
Same, given that he purposely fought people he knew he couldn’t beat
Well technically he always lost
I, too, would rank this fight as the third best out of the four official ones we've seen so far. However, I think it's importance of a fight is not thought about enough (at least, in my opinion). The gods are portrayed as these undefeatable beings, and humanity is portrayed as plain mortals who have no chance of saving themselves. In this fight, we are represented by Sasaki, a man who, despite failures after failures, picks himself up and continues to learn and grow. He is an example of that characteristic of humans that keeps us growing, improving, and advancing as individuals and as a species the same way Jack the Ripper is an example of humanity's dark ability to discard morality. The fact that such a man is able to defeat a god who is the epitome of a cold-hearted god shows that humans are beings who don't give up. We are beings who will get back up and save ourselves, even if salvation feels so far away. Yes, I agree that this fight was trapped under the shadow of Adam vs. Zeus, but the importance of this fight for humanity is not something that can be ignored.
Sasaki vs Poseidon is thematically an amazing fight.
The first two fights were represented by two of the biggest names in human history in the eyes of the manga’s universe, The Strongest in the Three Kingdoms and the World’s First Man. Those were power moves that no one really expected to lose, but they did. Brynhildr was struggling to choose at this point, only for Sasaki Kojiro to volunteer himself.
Kojiro was not just the World’s Greatest Loser, but he was just an ordinary swordsman in a world where the likes of Raiden Tameemon and Adam exist. In terms of swordsmanship, Okita Souji was arguably a more obvious pick than him. He’s not a gifted genius, nor is he a famed warmonger. He is a man, who picked up a drying pole and thought it was fun.
And he was against Poseidon, the only other Greek God as known as Zeus. In the manga, he’s considered the most “Godlike” of gods. Whatever he said, goes, even if it was something like erasing his older brother from history. He does not even acknowledge the presence of anyone above or beneath him, because he is a “God.”
So the fight was between the most Godly of Gods and the most Human of Humans. And what won Kojiro his fight was the most powerful aspect a human has in their disposal, the ability to learn from their mistakes.
As Japan’s biggest loser, Kojiro had the time and experience to evaluate how he can win his fights over and over, hence his “ultimate scanner” ability. He’s always making decisions, reading those decisions and finding where he dies and how he lives. He paid attention to his opponent, while Poseidon took a while to even look at him. Sasaki’s ultimate reason for winning was because he never stopped learning from his mistakes and his opponents. He continues to age even after his death because he always learns, never reaching his peak.
I would love to watch you cover Thor vs Lu Bu, mainly because it gets a lot of flack for being the first fight and being kind of simple, even though I believe it works to its charm. Also, another thing that I really liked about this fight was the contrast between Posidon's and Sasaki's backstories, how one had everyone behind him, while the other had no one, how one treasured the bonds he forged with his opponents, while the other disregarded them and called them trash. How one looked down on all life while the other wanted to never stop looking up.
I agree with you. I think it's simplicity is the best aspect of the fight and I find it genius how they introduce the Volund mechanic in this fight. The ending of Lu bu vs Thor is one that made me respect both characters (not as much as some others but they are great imo).
It just looks like poseidon is tired of everything, the bags under his eyes makes him look very depressed. He also didnt put a lot of """"" punch """"" in the fight, his reaction were bland. Looks like he just wanted out but didnt whant to break his god attitude.
U know this can be true...
That's just how he looks in general. At the end when he realised he was getting beaten, you could see the distress on the dudes face. I mean he literally curses Sasaki out right before he dies lmao
@@controlcon yeah i see what you mean but then again, when we hear that he's the strongest god and whatnot. I don't believe he was distressed, maybe annoyed to die from a human, but even then his reaction were lacking a certain will, just like when you loose when playing a game against someone you though you could beat, he was just like "ah you piece of shit". I believe he spent so much time being praised as the strongest (beside zeus and odin) that it all became boring to him. He just stood ther waiting for sasaki to enter his range and insta-kill him. Maybe i'm a little too into it lmao
that moment where poseidon grabbed his trident with his mouth was metal af
@@guinzovorgyrn3151 that move where he used his mouth to grip his trident was definitely a desperate attempt
I have this theory that the overall result will end up with humans winning only the underdog fights. Highlighting questionable morality, gaining strength through losses, and so on feels as though the author is working towards a message that essentially is "The good thing about humanity can be found when looking at the bad things about humans". Humans will win, while proving that their inferiority to the Gods paradoxically is what makes them superior.
That's a pretty cool theory, can't wait to see if it comes true
While that works as a theme after a while something like that would really hurt the manga overall.
One of the biggest selling points of this manga at least for me is that you can never tell who will win until the end, and the biggest flaw of this fight was that the winner was obvious from the start.
If only the underdogs won after a while the readers would catch on and there wouldn't be anymore stakes to any fight since you already know who will win
Does this still count since Jack won against Hercules??
I have a theory, and so far it's coming true, that if humans win it will be through skill technique intelligence Etc and not brute strength or endurance, we simply cannot match the Gods in those aspects well enough but everything else about us can equal or exceed them
@@razzamatronic9882 i mean raido Is kicking shiva's ass right now in pure strength, and adam would have steamrolled anyone but Zeus so that's not exactly true
Sasaki is a great character here's why, he wasn't craving fame or glory or tried proving to people that he's great he wanted to become great only for himself he was so grateful for the people who were much experienced than him and surpassed them without bragging about it. Sasaki is an inspiration to every achiever.
It would have been better
if *Sasaki Kojiro vs. Poseidon* happened as the 2nd fight of Record of Ragnarok.
The result wouldn't have been as predictable as Poseidon's moves when Sasaki goes Sherlock Holmes mode
Yeah but part of what makes it so conpelling is that poseidon is the older brother of zeus or the "zeus of the sea" so he compared to zeus who we previously saw winning against adam.
Also he is said to be the most godly of the gods and killing another broth er r of zeus and poseidon who was arguably probably seen in the same level as zeus and poseidon though he killed him with ease.
So being hyped jp for him only works cause we know how strong zeus is already
@@vietanhtran6431 Yeah but we already knew that Poseidon was gonna lose from the start.
The moment that Kojiro "died 18 times" it was so obviously over already, that it was kinda boring. Kojiro's and Poseidon's personal stories were the interesting part, since the main fight was just kinda done already.
@@vietanhtran6431, your reply still can't counter the fact that Sasaki Kojiro vs. Poseidon as the 3rd fight is a blatantly obvious win for the humans.
You simply added context, not counter-arguments.
@@deanpogi7026
Well, the thing is Adam’s loss was a setup for the idea behind humanity’s victories so far. Even though Adam could match Zeus blow for blow, punch for punch, he was still less durable. Humans are flimsier than the gods. Even someone as ridiculously badass as Adam can’t win in a contest of strength. If humanity wants to win, they will have to fight smarter, not harder. Sasaki wins by being more flexible than Poseidon, more adaptable, rather than taking him head on as Adam and Lu Bu tried to.
Sasaki’s fight had to be the third (and thus somewhat predictable in its outcome) so that humanity’s dire straits are clear to the viewer. Going toe to toe with the gods is impossible. Jack won by being sneaky, devious, and treacherous, for example. He was smart enough to realize he has no chance against Heracles, and so controlled the fight from beginning to end through other means.
Well, that’s how I interpret the intent behind the way things have turned out so far, at least. I could very well be wrong.
@@Nobythulhu now that I think about it, yeah.
The gods are insanely durable.
Thor got slashed straight through the chest and was unbothered, zeus got his neck snapped and simply put it back into place, and even poseidon could continue with literally his arms cut off.
Meanwhile Lu Bu had his legs broken and adam went blind.
The gods main advantage was their durability.
its funny how they portrayed Poseiden so young when hes older than zeus
One of the best fights in the story
Thats just not true
@@unknownperson-qm1eu why
@@eliasmagus5086 Well the other fights were so much more interesting but that's just my opinion. Speaking objectively the adam and Jack the ripper fights were much more surprising and the characters weren't so one dimensional. Poseidon was just a asshole and the old guy(I forgot his name) was just a basic shounen character. He was a weak charismatic underdog who proved hard work beats talent. Then at the of the fight got a power up and won the fight.
@@eliasmagus5086 nah. Adam was just a gary stu. This fight is x10 better
@@marsfritz6712 you really gonna call your great etc grandad a gary stu?
Perfection vs imperfection
Natural talent vs hardwork
Sasaki's charisma made that fight so much better
"Beware God of The Sea, this is the man we consider unparalleled under the heavens". HYPE
I thought this was the best fight of the series so far.
@Hilman Shaharuddin I loved Sasaki's backstory and mentality so much but in terms of emotional impact yeah that adam fight was way more gripping..... and now that I think of it the action itself was awesome too. the anime will settle this haha.
@Hilman Shaharuddin
All the fights are honestly S-Tier. I haven't been this hyped in a manga for years.
Imagine losing your whole life just to win against a God
That was what I thought during the whole fight
Did sasaki lose every single one of his fights just to get his first ever win against a god
Something I love about this manga is that is has a way to portrait the simple pleasure of seeing something epic. From flashbacks, to the fights to the characters to the very premise, everything is built to look and feel epic.
The moment a man trains his strength and technique to the point he finally managed to cut the heavens.
The moment the father of all mankind, blind and beaten, catch a god by the hair to keep on fighting.
The moment humans as a whole, the amalgamation of all our experience and learning in the art of the blade, manages to draw first blood on the gods.
Everything is carefully crafted to built up to those moments, the fights themselves are just a vehicle to drive us there.
Kinda scared right now, cause I was just reading this fight cause it was my favourite and while I'm entering jack vs Hercules and then I just see this video.
I feel like this fight had the deepest contrast in ideology of the series so far. Poseidon detested imperfection to the point that killed his brother as he was not worthy to be a god. Sasaki rose the level of gods by learning from his losses and constantly improving. Being a perfectionist was reflected in Poseidon's cold and stern personality, while Sasaki was shown to be very easy going as he was able to except failure and not get hung up on his flaws. The point of the fight was to show the we are not perfect gods and obsessing over failure will wear down on you and turn you into a bitter person. However, using your failures as lessons to help you grow is how maximize your human potential and prevent you from sulking over failure.
Although not being my favorite fight in the series, I really love the symbolism that writer wrote in the fight. For example, when the katana reached the bottom of the sea, it meant that Sasaki had already achieved the power that matches Poseidon. I mean, that was cool af.
These battles are very philosophical and deep, I’m a Dragonball die hard Fan and can see the similarities to the philosophy of some characters like Poseidon who truly acts like the Angels specifically mojito. They’re combat in this show is literally ultra instinct and Jiren level I loved how they showed the speed of Adam and Zeus punches which are faster than light, and Adam overheating is exactly what happened to Goku when he fought Jiren. This show has grown on me quick
same bro.
One thing that puts me off in this fight is that Poseidon is supposed to be older than Zeus, but he looks like a teenager, while Zeus looks like he's about to have a heart attack.
I think cause Poseidon wants to look young he is a god and Zeus just dosent care
After coming from the hype of Adam v Zeus, I can't tell you how "eh" this setup was...
But goddamn it became one of my favorite fights I've read this 2020. I felt the hype in my bones, man.
I've only seen the anime but I agree that this fight started out feeling eh but Sasaki's personality really carried the entertainment factor
I wish they could have given Poseidon character development, he had lots of potential :'t
can't develop character when there is none
I don't care what anyone says this is the best fight!
I saw the anime and my fav fight so far.
@@artfire28 truly best fight in anime 2nd best in manga
@@artfire28 they better remake the anime
I love how after losing hands Poseidon attacks holding weapon in his teeth
say whatever you want but guy is committed to perfection
I wish Poseidon had some back story where he was pressured to become perfect or something like that. But maybe humanizing the gods was detrimental to the story? IDK.
This being the 3rd fight helps with the unpredictability since you had 2 loses before:
one was in a unpredictable fight;
the other was in a unexpected ending where you wanted Adam to win.
So with the greatest loser vs "strongest" god is like "the greatest loser will win, obviously. But Adam lost and maybe the authors know we know that the loser will win. They have something up their sleeves."
What? This being the third fight actually made it very predictable. Especially because we got an Underdog scenario after having two "non-underdogs" lose in a row. Kojiro winning was blatantly obvious.
The interesting part of the fight is how he was gonna win it, not if.
@@skeletonwar4445 idk bout that chief, those cultures have a massive hard-on for tragic stories. I thought he was gonna lose again and he would be known as the guy who would never have a win and be erased from existence
Coming back to this after the anime dropped. By god is it easily the greatest of the 3 in the 12 episodes
What I really loved about this fight was that Poseidon really embodied the sea
He doesn’t care about anyone like the sea for fishermen
He’ll kill whoever is stupid enough to annoy him like a storm in the ocean
And through out the fight Poseidon kept showing more and more the depth of his power until Sasaki finally reached the bottom
i think the thing your missing is the fact that this fights thematic and emotional fight was about what it meant to work hard through perfect humility for the sole reason of improving yourself because YOU have decided that you wish to grow stronger as opposed to being told your a god and that gods are perfect and should need no one no matter what as sasaki literally called out with however small, poseidons immedeate recation to the line "...isnt that kinda depressing though?" really says it all. sasaki through is experience hasnt just learned how to fight but it could be said is the epitome of what it means to be human or in other words, the true perfect human unlike adam who waas modeled after gods and was simply the blueprint for the human race. beyond that it is made clear if you watch throughout the fight that what makes us human is failure and our willingness to grow from it and our capabiliy to learn from all our other fellow humans how it is we can better oursellves in ALL regards.
I read the "book of five rings" a month before I saw this fight. I lost my shit when Sasaki had Musashi's dual wield
In a good way or bad way
@@MrFlubber I geeked out
@@zachh6214 btw what's the book of five rings about?
@@MrFlubber
Well when I heard rings I thought it was probably Lotr
@@MrFlubber I read the book partially. It was originally written for martial artists but the book transcended into a leadership, strategy and people-skill book for all common people who wants to get ahead of the curve. I recommend you go to Audiobooks.
I went and read Vagabond manga after watching this, then I rewatched it and how they themed the fights message was really nice, I liked it way more than LuBu.
I love LuBu but that fight was a bit... slow, slower than normal due to it being the first and a lot of explaining other than Lu Bus history.
But after looking into Sasaki, it felt good that all that training went somewhere in the end. Pulled through at humanities finest hour. That hit me in the heart. I liked it.
I remember after finishing reading the adam versus zeus and saw the next cover of the 3rd fight. I already thought "ah kojiro will win". I still enjoy the story of kojiro in this manga though.
That fight is my favorite for now, and while looking back at it, it is not as dynamic as the others, I think what makes me love it so much is the contrat between Poseidon and Sasaki, who I think iis the best besides Heracles and Jack. On one side we have the epitome of godhood : no need for ally, for support, for scheme, just uncontested superiority. On the other, Sasaki is the epitome of humanity : getting kicked down, losing, having to rely on other to get back up stronger.
Poseidon is unparalleled because he is a god who needs no other gods, Sasaki is unparalleled because he is a human who took all the support and adversity from those he knew and turned it into an ultimate path.
This fight was so well written that I cried tears of joy for him I'm not normally one to feel any emotion watching or reading anything, the fights from this manga/anime are some of most emotionally impactful media I've seen in a long time
am so glad u change your stance on this, i was shocked when u guys said it was the worst in the previous video
while u concentrate on the underdog part of the fight I personally find myself in awe over Sasaki's ability and love how towards the end it was shown as him falling into the depths of the ocean
The predictability of the fight is what endeared it to me, because I find myself often noticing the little hints in a story, and piecing together what's going to happen next, but Record of Ragnarok blew off my ability to discern how it was going to go by just how badass and over the top it was. By the third fight, I was into it, and that almost never happens to me, I don't usually get that immersed in a story, and I couldn't tell anymore what was going to happen, I saw the clues that are mentioned at the beginning of this video, but I didn't trust them anymore, I respected the Author enough to not think it was capable of manipulating even MY expectations, and so when it turns out I was right, I didn't feel disappointed, I felt humbled, and I silently congratulated the story Author for having bamboozled me to such a degree. Plus, at that point, I was pretty sure they had the balls to make humanity go down to 0-3, I didn't think that the Author couldn't let Sasaki lose, further increasing my uncertainty.
What I love in this fight is the writer gave Poseidon credit, made him really worthy god, not like other shows or games, they made him weak and focused on Zeus
Sasakis committment.. Greatest fight to me.. That one line where he says that he doesnt want to be a loser was something else
You will probably hit 100k before 2021.
Honestly, the only thing that carried the Adam fight was the misconception that he hated the gods and was fighting for revenge yet he was just a man trying to protect his children. So far I think the fights have only gotten better, although I haven't started Raiden vs Shiva yet, giving it a bit of a break so I can binge a fight or two.
I really like how the end of the fight has Poseidon using the same tactic that that one guy in Sasaki’s backstory was yelling at Sasaki. ‘Fight. If you lose your weapon, use your hands. If you lose your hands, use your teeth.’
Heracles vs Jack the Ripper was good too, the fight made me shed manly tears
I personally didn’t feel anything at all for Thor or Zeus, but Lu Bu was alright, and Adam was a gigachad. Sasaki and Poseidon I really vibed with. Obviously Sasaki carried, but I feel like he supported Poseidon more than Adam supported Zeus. Oh, and Jack vs Heracles was god tier through and through, definitely my favorite fight and pair of characters.
Jack vs Heracles was truely amazing, not just because the fight itself was good, but also because of each character's backstory
Man that fight was Beautiful, i loved every second of it
Gotta love the irony the History Biggest Loser beat the Greek God who sees himself as a flawless perfect being
Looking at Poseidon's and Sasaki's character design something just popped into my head.
It reminded me of a speech in anime I haven't heard or remembered in years, but for some reason this fight brought it to my mind.
The 'perfect being',you said? Well.... I have to tell you the honest truth, as I see it. In this world, nothing perfect exists.
The truth of the matter is, I despise perfection. If something is truly perfect, that's it. The bottom line becomes.
There is no room for imagination. No space for intelligence. Or ability. Or improvement! Do you understand?!
It's a really old quote from Bleach by Mayuri.
Old wrinkly man that is known for being imperfect. Then there's a Young god that looks like a Greek sculpture (lol) It just seems so poetic.
There's a lot symbolically that plays into this fight, but also the structure of the prior two fights set up for this to be an amazing victory for humanity.
Round 1 has Thor being challenged but not really having to use any effort and just winning somewhat easily
Round 2 while Zeus wins, Adam keeps pace and shows even the God of Gods that humans can put up a fight.
Round 3 rides off that idea and finally solitifies humanity's first win, showing the gods they can't take humans lightly.
While I love Adam vs Zeus more, this fight has a great message to it through all of it.
If you want unpredictability, then just wait until Shiva vs raiden. You will love it
The combination and evolution of spirit of both Sasaki and Valkyrie Hrist made the fight even better. Hrist responded very well to Sasaki's will to fight by splitting her powers into two.
I just recently watched the anime of Sasaki Kojiro vs Poseidon.. and.. I don't really like how Sasaki is portrayed.
The fight shows a very deep meaning but it should be understood using the real portray of Sasaki and Musashi.
Sasaki was a master swordman, not really the underdog who never won anything, he was one of the best duellist of Japan, and he mastered the Nodachi and upon his skills he created a new school of fighting.. he was nicknamed "The Demon of the Eastern Provinces" he wasn't a random underdog..
On the other hand Musashi started trying to master a katana but then he found himself fighting with katana/wakizashi and he started mastering the art of the 2 swords.
both of them never lost a duel until that fatal day on the beach where Musashi killed Sasaki using his own style of weapon, the greatsword.
Now.. I wan't to point out a crucial thing, Musashi was the master of the 2 swords, Sasaki of the Greatsword. During the duel, Sasaki couldn't keep up with Poseidon using his signature style weapon, but than Hrist splitted herself in two gifting him the same two swords the one who killed him mastered, and during the final part, Sasaki's students mimicked the kata/cut of one sword but Musashi himself saw that the true potential and skills of Sasaki could be achieved with his own fighting style.
The fact Sasaki won using Musashi's way of dueling is a crucial point based on historical records, and for me that was the best moment of the duel. I do hope the writers will find a way to let Sasaki and Musashi to talk about this, Sasaki understanding why two swords are better than one for a Samurai.
the thing is, sasaki in the series is a master swordsman, but due to him constantly searching for stronger opponents, his talent wasn't realized as people just knew that he kept losing, not realizing it was because he actively wanted to keep losing.
It could have been something greater. There was a moment when Sasaki and Poseidons' eyes met and his eyes lit up, I though the author would make it so that Poseidon slowly start to Enjoy the fight, maybe he would be moved by Sasaki, maybe have him talk a little more. Poseidon was damn silent for the while duration of that fight with most of the inner monologues belonging to Sasaki. But Nope, nothing happened, his eyes went back to being blackholes the next pannel. IT'S A DAMN SHAME.
Edit: And because Sasaki was such an inspirational character, with many good quotes. I had hoped that some of it would've gotten through to Poseidon.
Poseidon is perfect. In his writing, mannerisms, minimalist dialogue. He's the other side of Thor.
Every little word Jab that Sasaki makes, the better he understands Poseidon. Even his fighting style is just... Power and speed, he doesn't do anything fancy, he's swatting away a fly, never giving it recognition, the exact opposite of Thor. Its fun, because apart from every 2 fighters in a fight being some sort of Ying vs Yang, you can notice even more details and parallels. I'm slowly becoming afraid of how well this manga is written.
This is easily my favorite fight so far. I went in knowing the outcome and was still moved by the triumph. I think the key is that the fight doesn't overshadow Sasaki's journey. It is enough to show that he has learned from his opponents, inherited the art of the sword, and honed it to the point of rivaling a god's perfection. The journey built his character, and the fight against Poseidon was the test that proved it. It's a little disappointing - why put all that water around the stage if you're not going to use it? But the decision makes sense. Too many fancy maneuvers from Poseidon risk detracting from the theme.
Thanks mask I just finished monster it was a amazing read,by the way record did my man Musashi dirty with that design.
This fight seriously had me yelling and getting hyped like it was an actual event taking place... This show is so fucking good
I don't care about the outcome of any future fights as long as loki loses 💀
The coolest part of this fight is when it plays on a common knowledge of who Sasaki Kojiro was in real life. I assume that title of "the world biggest loser" comes from the fact that IRL he was a last opponent of legendary swordsman Miyamoto Musashi and everybody who researched this topic know Kojiro only as "last opponent of Musashi who lost (in a super anime way at that)"
Some other cool parts of the fight is that:
He arrived at the duel on a boat. Just like Musashi did on the duel with Kojiro.
When his volund broke he re-bankaided it into two swords and started to use Musashi's "Niten Ichiryu" which made Musashi in the arena to lose his shit.
Honestly, while I am excited for every new fight, the most hyped I will be is going to be when Simo Häyhä steps in to the ring.
This character was honestly so well written
You didn’t mention how one of Sasaki’s rivals in the crowd mentions something about if you lose both hands in a fight, use your mouth to hold your sword. This is perfectly mirrored by Poseidon’s desperation at the climax when he does everything in that quote, step by step.
This is by FAR my absolute favorite fight.
Thought poseidon was gonna win after seeing how 2 humans lost already, but the come back at the end wow was amazing and a good twist.
Thank u. Thank u for being someone who understands fights, themes, characters and wht makes thm good
Sasaki never truly gave up. Humanity's ultimate ability in this manga is the ability to continue to grow. Lu Bu, a man who fought tooth and nail for all of his strength, got Thor to enjoy a battle and smile like a maniac. Adam inspired ALL OF HUMANITY and fought even AFTER his death, refusing to allow his family and humanity to lose hope, refusing even in death to take a knee to his opponent. Sasaki LEARNED from his mistakes and with every single battle he "lost", he became stronger, combining dozens of swordsmen's styles and abilities and created the ultimate sword style that not only held its own against a god, but it also cut him down AND evolved further when he absorbed Posedion's speed. Jack AND Heracles proved that no matter if you strive for justice or evil, we all are human and we can always be redeemed. Our color may change, but Heracles proved that it is possible to fight with love in your heart and that you may change even the evilest man in history. The gods may be "perfect" but humanity has the ability to grow and exceed perfection. In fact, their IMPERFECTION is what made them all so strong. They never stopped striving to improve and grow, and as the manga states, the tip of the blade of humanity may touch the deep
So far this is my favorite fight. Sasaki represents humanity's ability to adapt and survive no matter the odds and become stronger than ourselves and come out better for it. I think Poseidon works because he's less of a character and more of a natural disaster. He feels nothing for the people he fights against, because things like that are beneath him. He's uncaring and torrential like a hurricane that destroys cities. It's a story of humans vs nature and how we've come so far, but still have places to go. That's just my take on the fight.
I think his greatest character development was that he stopped being selfish.
He stopped thinking “it’s good enough to beat him in my mind” and actually went ahead and fought to win on the first try
I like how his hecklers started rooting for him.
Poseidon never loses his composure, he's an overbearing antagonist. When his hand is sliced off, he doesn't even wince, he catches it, crushes it, and proceeds into his next attack. I'd say Poseidon was composed, he as a god, looked down on Kyojiro, even after losing his arm, looked down on him. The world's greatest loser never stopped trying nor ever doubted the capability of his opponent. Every fight in this show is amazing
"I fear not the man who won a thousand battles but rather the man who has studied one thousand defeats."
I love this fight a lot more then most people (I personally put it above Adam vs Zeus and under jtr vs herc) and that’s mainly because going into the fight I felt like humanity was gonna lose every fight until they have to win and with the pressure they will get through it so I thought he was going to lose until I saw his backstory and then I realized this gonna be the first dub and it was great from there
I actually loved this fight soooo much
This is my fav fight in the anime so far. From the scene he entered in Brunhilde's chamber without anybody noticed, i was like this is the time a human will strike back against a God. And I didn't even know the source material yet.
I think there is another message to the fight that a lot people seem to be missing and i believe it is the reality of skill. What i mean by this is that what we know about poseidon is a bit vague and i might be wrong but it seems to suggest that it is water abilities that poseidon is the best at. This is significant in that it suggests that he has no real skill with his Trident and used it because he simply didn't think he needed his water powers. In comparison sasaki spent his entire life dedicated to the art of the sword and even after he died kept training. This is the exact opposite to poseidon and is why sasaki was the perfect opponent for poseidon.
Honestly this was my favorite fight, it was sick
This fight made me tear up twice
I feel like while this fight is predictable, it’s still dope. Lots of anime (shounen especially) makes it fairly obvious who is going to win. This dosent make it any less good.
The manga raised my expectations soo high, the anime wasn’t bad but I didn’t feel it like I did in the manga.
I thought this was the best fight by far, Sasaki was my favorite.