Southgate CAN'T Mess This England Squad Up?!
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Rory slagging off Ben White is insaneee, and I’m not even an Arsenal fan. We don’t know what happened between White and the staff, so you can’t really give that harsh of an opinion
Sounds like he threw a tantrum and doesn't wanna play for his country anymore
@@hyywe240 what's wrong with that..
I remember last season Rashford was cheered for turning down England to focus on United and remaining fit..
Specifically.. Fans were saying that Southgate barely used him at the WC even though he was one of the top scorers for England but wants to call him up for friendlies..
@akeemguy7331 what's wrong with throwing a tantrum and not wanting to play for your country?
You expecting a tory to say anything else? When they the biggest pro country folks
@@hyywe240 You comment said" sounds like he threw a tantrum" so we dont know if that is true..
And yeah .. If he doesnt want to play for England, just choose someone else.. The guy doesn't want to be Maguire's and Walker's back up..
Not an Arsenal fan and quite like Rory, but attacking White like that and throwing those remarks at him when we have no idea about his reasonings for refusing the call-up is pretty harsh imo.
Rory called him an attention seeker which is funny because that’s what Rory is
He had a sun bed booked so he couldn’t join the squad 😂
He made a statement based on an observation. Didn't comment on white as player or a person. What's harsh is your school teachers claiming they done their job
We know the reason now! White was humiliated in front of other players by Steve Holland and as a man, he has self respect to stand up for himself and thats what men should do!
Are you suggesting that Rory is throwing around deeply uninformed opinions with zero authority on the topic? Surely not!?
I usually back Rory, even as an Arsenal fan, but he’s off the mark with his comments on Ben White. Absolutely nothing wrong with refusing to play for a manager who allows you to be publically disrespected by his assistant and then lies about it to the press.
It's also possible that Ben White leaked lies to the press and Southgate is telling the truth. This is an extremely weird and parasocial comment.
Deserved it. Didn't do his homework. Fake tan boy won't be missed.
Trent won everything
Walker won everything
Trippier La Liga winner
James UCL winner
White helped Brighton stay up 😂
B@@pazman77bore off, James can't even stay fit for 5 mins, TTA has never done it for England
@@user-gp6cc8jj6dno one’s ever done it for England in this generation we lose 😂
Rory’s Tory is showing when he speaks about Ben white. From a Chelsea fan
Rory has lost the plot here, literally being hurt for the sake of it. They sit down and say Southgate is terrible and only picks his favourites and now when Ben White said nah I don't want to waste my time coming to train when I have 0 chance of playing because he has his favourites and I'm not one of them, and we all know Southgate CONSTANTLY brings players and leaves them on the bench or plays them for 10mins, he acts disgusted. Like Rory himself has complained about southgate sticking to his favourites but is now just acting like Ben White would start on merit like its ever happened before. Not to mention all of the actual behind the scenes drama that adds to it. Terrible take.
You don’t know the situation Rory! You can’t just say you hate him and assume the worst when you clearly don’t know what’s going on behind closed doors. Disgraceful opinion
Didn't you know he is a bit slow?
Say's the Arsenal fan. Would you have that same energy if any other none Arsenal player did the same? Doubt it.
@@KD-tp6erWhy wouldn't you? Like it's obvious that there is a reason other than he simply can't be bothered. Problem is we'll never hear it from Southgate who'd rather just throw him under the bus
@@cowboyorangesoda8408 why shouldn’t he when he doesn’t want to play for him lol 😂 not everything fairies and tinfoil mate people don’t have to be nice to each other when they don’t get on and Southgate could of been allot harsher not that he even was lol
"meant to be there for your boys" from the loyal man that is Rory
Rory saying White would start over Maguire shows he knows nothing about Southgate and Ben White
You misquoting “would” when he used the words “could” and “should” is a massive difference, especially in the context of which he was speaking
@@AKM-XIexact quote is 'but he'd get in the team over Maguire wouldn't he? At center half, he'd be an option'.
That's just delusion tbh. Rory knows how ridiculous southagtes selections are and are going to be but even in knowing this he try's to make it out like Ben white actually has a chance, all to further prove his opinion.
All the comparisons in the video to English players that had to put up with stuff from the fans or stuff from media and so on is irrelevant as they were all starting for england, first name on the team sheet type shit. Ben white has had nothing but cameos here and there in his england career. It's just simply not the same
@@AKM-XI he didn't use the word could though now did he?
Bellingham has played as an 8 his entire career up until now, yet everyone thinks a Foden-Bellingham-Rice midfield would be unbalanced 🤷🏾♂️
And Foden is near the top of the league in distance covered. He can easily play as an 8 also. It's stunning that someone could think Mainoo is more proven than Foden in ANY facet of the sport.
He’s a ten now
Would be wasting him
I think that depends on right back and left back. If they are high flying full backs i think better to have 2 CDM maybe rice and mainoo.
@@TP-pq9xx maino plays alot deeper than Foden bro...
Just because you can’t understand someone’s decision, that does not make it wrong!
White has clearly fallen out with Southgate and has been disrespected by him and probably wouldnt get a game for southgate even if he went. Why is it so disgraceful for him to say that? The guy picks Henderson and Maguire ffs lol
He fell out with Holland & one of the players, there’s no rumours about Southgate but keep blaming him 🤔
I think it's safe to assume Ben White is a fanny
From reports he fell out with the top assistant Steve Holland. Which is still fair, if you have a personal problem just stay away rather than making it uncomfortable for everyone
When has White been disrespected by Southgate?
@@Nemophilist850When Southgate apparently lied about their being an Issue between White and Holland.
About Ben White, Southgate wouldn't play him anway if he's fallen out with Holland , but Southgate has his favourites and White isn't one of them he puts loyalty to him over the teams results.
Ya he plays his mates it's so dumb. I'm hoping the united links are real.
You're underestimating Southgate's ineptitude
Who would you rather have as an england manager?
@@hyywe240 Zidane
@@hyywe240literally anyone who knows how to manage
@@hyywe240Gary o Neil
@@FastCheetah-oq6kjThe same bloke who lost to Coventry😂He is overrated by the media
Imagine a short guy like Rory calling 6ft athlete Ben white a drip because he gets a spray tan and doesn't want to play for England, the internet really has people talking like they're tough to screens. 🤣
100% mate I had a lot of respect for Rory before all this but he’s just coming across as a wingey little weasel 🤣
Never playing for England again - why is he so passionate about this I don’t understand - as an England fan surely the reaction is I hope they resolve it and he feels like he actually wants to be in the squad because he’s a brilliant player
He’s right for not wanting to play for Southgate. Nothing wrong with Ben White not wanting to play for his country. Not every person is as patriotic as you lot
Rory not really getting it regarding Ben White. Talking about Billy Bonds lol
The way Rory has spoken about another person in this video is frankly disgusting.
you should go to a game and hear the shouts from the stands
He called him a little div, calm down mate
cope mate
@@celtic69at least those guys can say it not behind a screen
@@JWilz97there’s no way you’d let someone call you that
“Belgium were misleading” yet they beat England everytime they have played in the last like 5 years
No
I rate Ben white and his decision, these players needs a break too. Also I'm a united fan so obviously I don't care about England as you do
Why obviously? Usually the fans are mid table teams are more prone to caring about England.
Some players have problems with their national team it’s not uncommon 😂 i mean a few years ago Messi retired for international football because he had problems with the manager and the set up. Ozil refused to play for Germany again….
Rory, a grown man, getting in his feelings, same way Ben got in his feelings 🤣🤣🤣 I can’t cope with
Rory’s approach to the Ben White situation is disgusting baring in mind the language he (Rory) uses. There were reports that Holland would effectively bully him in front of the team. The one time Southtwat picked him for a squad he never left the bench. Additionally, there are reports of him (White) having a family issue/personal issue, now it was never reported what occurred wasn’t reported/leaked. The guy clearly wants to play for his country - based on the fact he more than happily but the shirt on previously. And since then shit has clearly occurred, additionally, if the geeza didn’t want to represent his country - that’s also completely fine. Not everyone is patriotic, not everyone has a reason to love the land they were born in. Yet he (White) clearly does cos he was happy to play for them previously, so clearly what’s happened was a big fucking deal, it’s not like White and his family haven’t discussed the matter (even White and Arsenal probably have). So grow up Rory, not everyone needs to love the country they’re from, nor does everyone need to represent it if they chose not too.
I've never seen any reports that Holland used to bully him in front of the team. I've seen one report that Ben White refused to do analysis and Holland chewed him out over it.
@@Nemophilist850 then you aren’t reading many reports. Or you’re choosing the reports specifically to suit your argument
@@Nemophilist850 also sorry bully might be the wrong word, but let’s just say harsh/bad treatment, embarrassing him, whatever might have gone on. I’ll just use the word bully to encompass those feelings, but you’re right that bully might be a little bit hyperbolic
Oh stop crying
Im assuming thats a response to Rory considering he'es the one crying about a singular player saying no...@@CMJames
There’s nothing wrong with a player prioritizing himself over a coach / team that will sit him on the bench for 2 weeks - we always talk about players having to play too much football and are more likely to get injured but as soon as a player does something about it we slate him to the ends of the earth over it
He doesnt wanna go cos he won't play but he's not going because playing would be too much for him 😂😂😂
@@hyywe240He's not going cos he's not gonna play and he doesn't want to be in the presence of a complete wanker that tells lies about him to the public for 6 weeks of his life if he ain't gonna play
@@hyywe240 yeah because players going to a world cup only play matches and dont do anything else. Footballers already play 10-11 months of the year. A world cup is another month of training/playing every single day in a schedule that is already way too much for 99% of footballers. You must think theyre robots 😂😂😂
@adambassuni6084 He's going to be doing the same amount of intense training if he stays at arsenal or whatever he goes with England! How did you not know that 😂
"he's quick like a giraffe's quick" 😂
Can't wait for this England's squad not to leave their own half against Poland for 82 min. Just to lose on penalties cuz we don't know Rashford and what's he's about while dropping a atinker
I think he needs to STRONGLY and SERIOUSLY review the whole situation with Ben White because what was projected on this episode was irresponsibly inaccurate by circumstance. Ben White has an aweful situation going on and was treated like crap by his coach (which Southgate straight up lied about) and thrown aside. It’s disgusting from the staff.
rory acting like a drip himself
Rory not understanding the situation with White and making such outrageous comments has really put a dark cloud on this video.
White made a post saying that putting on the England shirt was a dream come true and he loves this country. He was berated by the assistant manager and embarrassed because he wasn’t given the opportunity… so he doesn’t want to play for England whilst Holland is there. Should they be adults and fix it? Yes. But Rory you should be an adult and educate yourself.
Very very disappointing from you Rory. Im one of the few that sticks up for you, but this wasn’t right.
If he loved his country he would put personal differences aside and contribute to the bigger picture. Instead he has chosen to have a strop and do make it about him. He’s a clown
@@CMJames that’s not how it works. In a progressional setting as an athlete some coaches are just prats. I’ve experienced it in rugby. The morale of the staff can affect how an athlete performs and I just think Holland wasn’t good to him.
@@CMJamesCrap take. Southgate just lied about him and threw him under the bus in front of the whole country. And you expect him to spend 6 weeks of his life hanging out with him and his wanker assistant, without the possibility of him playing, because patriotism. You would never do it either and you're a liar if you say you would.
To be fair to Ben White, I’m surprised he’s the only one who feels like he’d be wasting his time enough to not be bothered to go and train. If you’re way down the pecking order at CB while Maguire is an automatic starter, have no chance at right back where Walker is nailed on if not Trippier, and not even considered for a defensive midfield spot where you have Henderson and Phillips ahead of you, that must be pretty demoralising
Saying Rodgers is a rubbish manager is ridiculous. True he was overhyped at one point but he's still very much a good manager
shock that rory the big tory chelsea fan is annoyed at ben white
Who cares, we won’t miss our 5th choice right back
@@stevieb253 nothing to do with my comment or the video mate
I Certainly think there's a huge case for Rashford and to a lesser extent, Gordon, to play the LW spot over Foden. Foden is excellent, but i think playing him there just to shoehorn him in could be a mistake when you need the pace and ability to get in behind a team. Rashford compliments Kane and brings that balance to the front line. Foden and Saka will have to share the RW I think, for the sake of the team. Lets not make the mistake of trying to get as many names in the team as possible and get a good balance.
Rashford isn’t good enough
Really disgusting takes on Ben White. It’s takes like this that end up horrendous because a player made a personal choice they needed to.
Rory needs to cut it out. Don’t care about the clicks.
Absolutely bang on with "if there is a failing.. we're a bit slow" and Gordon being a potential remedy to that. People don't realise how quick he is to get up to top speed.
I think in that England team he'll rip teams apart.. if he gets picked.
When the England staff said to him he’s a bench warmer it evidently stems from the top down. Southgate is an idiot
You can't assume Ben White would start over Maguire. Come on, this is Southgate.
He doesn't deserve to on merit since he's only played CB a handful of times in the past couple years. So lazy to make the Maguire argument when there's a dozen other English CBs who are actually playing in that position and deserve the spot more than White.
White is versatile. He plays right back, centre back, and dm. He can invert. He is very fluid, him and stones would be good together@@TP-pq9xx
@@TP-pq9xxa handful of time? You realise he was a pure CB at Leeds and Brighton before he joined us yeah? And he played CB next to Gabriel for his first season at Arsenal. He has over 200 games registered at CB you sausage, it’s only last season that he switched to RB😂
@@skyrimplayer2335 I said “a handful of times in the past couple years.”
It helps to read a comment before you respond to it.
England will be lucky to make it as far as they did in the World Cup. The English team has always been made up of some of th best players in the world. But they never play well as team. Southgate will probably get far enough to keep his job. And that’s it, that’s your reward, Southgate job security.
This guy crying over Ben white not wanting to risk injury during some shitty friendly… absolute melt
Silly little drip? He got mugged off by the coaching staff and now he doesnt want to play for them. Should he suck it up and do it anyway, yeah probably, does he have to cause it's some insane honour/privilege you speak of? No, calm down you tory.
Got mugged off? Lol proper soft aren’t ya
Orrrhhh hard man over here, fuaaaaark. Some people have principles.@@stevieb253
the irony of the words he uses to describe Ben white. Pots, kettles and all the rest of it 🤣. You just know Rory would shrivel if he got the chance to interview him as well, proper mug.
Mugged off how? Because they wouldn't tolerate someone refusing to do analysis?
@@Nemophilist850ben white didn’t refuse anything the coach got mad at him when he didn’t know something and told him its cuz he doesn’t care about football
People who hate Ben White and say he should never be available for England again have really really good lives if this is what upsets them
Rory should be a writer for the S*n
Yeah John Terry had huge amount grief…you mean being a racist, Rory?
Yep! If ever a guy should have never represented his country again. Although to be fair Rory could have been talking about the stick he got for boning a team mates wife!
Rory being that angry is pure weirdo behaviour. When it's obvious there's been a major argument behind the scenes. "Look at the state of him" is pretty rich coming from Rory ffs
Rory is 5ft 2 and calls him a little drip I don’t think he wants to play for the manager
Adam is right we should use the nations league as a way to experiment with the squad
Rory is clearly VERY misinformed about the whole Ben White situation considering practically everything he said was WILDLY wrong 😅
'Distracted by the game'...during a watchalong :D
The thing is its Southgate so he will mess it up mainly on the tactical side, wouldnt be surprised if he makes one or 2 controversial starting players
Would be interesting if they line up in 4-3-3 with false 9 Bellingham, Kane and Ollie up top and Rice, Foden, Maddison and Jude in a midfield diamond and Walker providing width on the right
I love Rory slating Ben white the drip 🤣🤣🤣
Rory is just a proper whopper like 😅
Quick like a giraffe’s quick 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Gordon... Liked him when Chelsea were linked to him... but not now his form is head and shoulders above most.
White clearly wants to play for England Southgate is the one not letting him
Blah blah blah Southgate’s fault 🙄 based on absolutely nothing
@@jackninetynine5036could say the same for people like you, just reversed. Like replace the name Southgate with white and you’re just as hypocritical
That's clearly not the case.
Good he's shite
Saka burns people on the outside all the time. Rory just says things at this point for thr sake of saying them
Not recently
Southgate:" watch me!!"
Gk : pickford ramsdale Johnstone
Def: walker stones shaw Braithwaite maguire gomez trippier
Mid: trent rice mainoo curtis jones bellingham
Att: kane foden saka watkins gordon palmer rashford
Bowen only missed out because we have so many players thay can play on the right it was between him and palmer
If Curtis Jones was an injured, he would be a shout at that position. Potentially Trent beside rice is a double pivot as well with Bellingham up top of it
Surely you’re not attacking White without reading any of the media about what happened?
Southgate lied saying he don’t know what it was. White was disrespected by Steve Holland and Southgate backed Holland. So White wants nothing to do with them. Every main journalist said this at the time he left the World Cup and has doubled down since.
Why go to the camp with people that have disrespected you, and then not play any minutes at the Euros? Southgate was never gonna play White so I don’t blame him at all.
Also, saying things like ‘silly drip’ like you’re hard 😂 bet if you met Ben White and spoke to him you’d be the first to be slagging Southgate off. Weird
Why are you crying on Ben Whites behalf? Seriously, why are you so offended? You weren’t there so you really don’t know the facts. None of us do. Ben can sit on the tanning bed this week, he won’t be missed
Mainoo deserves a chance, but when the Euros start England's midfield surely has to be Trent, Rice and Bellingham.
Imagine Rory saying "look at the state of him" to literally anyone 😂 Such a lack of self-awareness form RUclips's own "attention seeking little div"
France boast the best defence in the entire world ryt now and Griezmann is in incredible form and honestly Mbappe could win it for france even if every other french player plays crap..... I don't where Rory's narrative that France's squad is not as good as England comes from.... They may not have our attacking options but they 100% have what resources are needed
They need to give Little Rory an incentive to stop talking nonsense. Maybe they could offer him a little treat for every good point he makes.
Can u do a video about 10 or 15 years ago players worth in this era how much they cost?
It comes down to in game management at the end of the day. And Bottlegate has shown us all multiple times he has no in game management.
Gareth scapegoat and the worst fans in the world
@@hyywe240yep as an Englishmen it’s embarrassing the entitlement. Blokes done decent & yet ‘fans’ are waiting for us to lose to throw abuse his way
@@hyywe240how is he a scapegoat? Literally against France Saka was englands biggest threat he was causing absolute mayhem down that right flank, Theo Hernandez couldn’t live with him. When England were 2-1 down and they needed a goal he subbed of Saka for sterling, somebody that had been back and forth dealing with his house robbery. How are you justifying that?
@@jackninetynine5036so are you justifying Jordan Henderson getting picked despite him playing in a retirement league in front of 500 fans. Non league clubs have over 1,000 fans and Henderson was playing in front of 500.
@@FastCheetah-oq6kj if you think you know more about football than gareth southgate, you are stupid
Ramsdale Shaw White Stones (Trent-inverts) Rice(6) Bellingham(8) Foden(10) Rashford(Left) Saka(Right) Kane(CF) This is the best team our winning formula!!!
Pickford
(Goal keeper)
John Stones
Sven Botman
(Central defenders)
Destiny Udogie
(Left back)
Trent Alexander-Arnold
(Right back)
Jude beligham
(Attacking mid)
Rice
(Defentive mid)
James Maddison
(Central mid)
Foden
(Left wing)
Saka
(Right wing)
Kane
(Striker)
I think you guys should do a ranking show of combined 11 and then rank the rankings of the rankings.
Is Southgate won´t play Foden from the start, then Southgate should be deported to Russia.... Foden should do a Ben White, refuse to play for England as long as Southgate is the manager..
I think what will create the best functioning team all round is Gallagher or trent in midfield with rice and Bellingham
If it was a Chelsea player, he wouldn't have this same energy.....
Say what you will about White, fair enough, but if you think for one moment that Southgate would start him over Maguire, you're delusional. And how Rory Jennings can slag someone off for being attention seeking, I'll never understand. This guy literally makes a living churning out shit (and wrong) takes.
these two reek of “i definitely didn’t start getting paid more when i left the kick off”
"Attention seeking little div" proper tickled me 😂😂
Rice Bellingham Maddison midfield imo with Foden as a LAM/LF
Wtf is Braithwaite being called up before Tomori ?? Once again he’s being looked over cause he plays in Serie A 🙄 Tomori is fast
I think it's because he's left-footed
Braithwaite is good
No shouts of Maddison in a midfield 3??
Rice sits, Jude the 8, James the 10
Can even reverse rolls of Jude and James if needed
Southgate experimenting is trying Trippier at Left Back, Guehi at left back, Kane as a deep play maker & Maddison as a left winger.
I wonder y no one suggest Curtis jones
Englands best press resistant player and he’s solid in the build up
Apparently Southgate was planning on testing Trent in the midfield against Brazil and Belgium, to see if he could do it against the big boys. Now that his injury stopped that, I fear he’ll just be a bench warmer again at the Euros
Where there's a will, there's a way lads
Iam Brazilian you guys for the first time in history
You guys have a better team.
England XI
Pickford
Walker Branthwaite
Stones
Trent Rice Bellingham Foden
Saka Watkins
Kane
Bench Options
Ramsdale
Tripper
Tomori
Konsa
Gomez
Mainoo
Gallagher
Prowes
Maddison
Gordon
Bowmen
Palmer
Toney
3 4 3 Formation
Walker and Braithwaite to stay deep ( due to height and speed )[hard to counter attack ] , then you havd Stone to drive into DM ( like he does for City ) Foden and Trent , to holds the width whilst using their abilities ( deadly passing ) with Rice mopping up lose balls with Watkins and Saka , doing them runs behind, plus Kane dropping into 10 to collect ball either to feet or runs in behind. Whilst either Saka or Watkins to come short ,Then you have Bellingham floating and doing that lampards runs 😅 ( Freedom like at Real ) . I just believe that's the best team for that vision of play, then when defending you, just drop back into a 4 with trent stones Braithwaite and walker 😅
(WHITE HAS NIT BEEN SELECTED DUE TO SOUTHGATE )
@Rory, that's a bit harsh mate ... Name calling and that ..
Look at it from a players point of view .
Does the manager (Southgate) respect him ...
Cuz if he did, he wouldn't have done that to him ...
People seem to think Jude has forgotten how to defend. He will be just behind foden in that midfield and rice behind Jude I can’t believe we are still having this debate.
Nothing's cemented my position more regarding Ben White than knowing Rory's so bothered by him. Hope Ben tells the world he's available for a call up the minute Southgate confirms his departure. Also, I understand it might be a throwaway word in conversation but automatically ascribing patriotism to someone because they play for their country is only as ludicrous as thinking they're not patriotic because they chose not to play. This is especially true in the world of players being able to play for several countries based on tenuous familiar relationships that have no bearing on their actual lives.
For what it's worth, I think a better way to approach is to think that Ben White should probably work to get this resolved because he will likely regret not being able to play in such big games over a disagreement (or worse) with some dickhead, assistant coach. I do think Southgate's comments are the nail in the coffin though. He lied about there being an incident so any inclination from Ben to try and move on is now undercut by his national team manager calling him a liar.
Ben White Brexit crowd wanna completely forget that Southgate just lied about him and hung him out to dry in front of the entire country. Southgate didnt need to say anything at that press conference. He specifically wanted to address it.
Surprised Rory didn’t pick Bernando Silva
Very much here for the Ben White rant 😂😂
Nice to see Rory being a complete plonker again
Rory is wrong about the Ben white thing. He wouldn't get played before Mcguire, he didn't when Mcguire wasn't even playing regular in the prem! As well, he didn't go so someone who is excited to be there is. It's a win.
White has always said football isn't a big deal to him, he's just good enough to earn a living from it. If it's down to personal reasons for White not staying then fair enough, but also from a football perspective he's not guaranteed a game (Southgate plays his favourites regardless of form) and he's involved in a big title fight and European push so doesn't want to risk an injury in a friendly.
I think Jones from Liverpool would bring a good balance to the midfield
Ben White does not want to jpin, what is the issue with that?
Little drip 😂
Shocking about ben white lad
Shocking manager.
Foden is absolute class, but he's been mid for England. W/that being said... I'd have Jude/Rice/Mainoo/Foden. Foden on the right. Jude on the left. play behind Saka on the right Kane on left a 4 4 2.
*SOUTHGATE IS A CLOWN*
Rice, Bellingham, Stones.
Play Maguire with a Tomori or a Konsa or something.