@@theplayerofus319 doesn’t make sense for you to make such a claim. You’re not everyone and whoever you see hating 90% of the time couldn’t afford it. Just wait and see how the sales go.
Love these comments from so-called car design experts. I bet you can't even draw a straight line on an A4 sheet. It's a good thing your comment is baseless, which makes it worthless.
yeah hell no buddy. all the yappers have said this about very new M car they can no where near afford to order. G8X is the best selling M3 of all time bozo
Still looks understated. I don't get what's the whole woorah about BMWs looks. Its daring and this M5 is the least daring. Like the new M4 is growing on all of us now.
@@mothusiraseroka1808the BMW M4 is a f‘ing masterpiece compared to this ship. The BMW M4 beats an Audi r8 lap time on the Nurburgring The new BMW M5 weighs the same as the Titanic, i hope they release how many knots this thing goes
You know a car sucks when they offer “in car gaming” as a selling point. I think I’ll drive home and game in an Audi. I’m not the target for bmw anymore
Does this kinda look like a E 63 from last gen from the side? The more this video went on the more I wish I could afford this vehicle since I had my 2014 528i. I’ve wanted to in five very bad.
@@goran3262 he's probably a BMW fanboy or something because no way someone can be so oblivious of the fact that how worse the car is compared to the previous generation
@@goran3262 an F10 Gen M5 can keep with a gt3 - the gt3 may be light but that’s the only reason it’s quick around track. Straight line gt3 performance is actually way overrated
My comment is very straight forward and proven by everyone’s response so far. Outside of the weight is this a bad car? Maybe not what you’d like as a true M car but when has an M car ever been a hybrid? Hell BMW has bastardized the M division for years now. Everyone should wait for the driving impressions before they say it’s an overall garbage performance sedan … just my opinion.
I usually do not like all black cars, but that is striking. Just watched another channels review with the car in Isle of Man green and both are beautiful.
Most people complaining could never afford this, at least until its 5 or 6 years old. This thing will sell like nuts. Looks beautiful, powerful and the interior is pure Luxury. It is a Luxury sedan....
@@adambarnett4509 first off you shouldn't tell people who you have no clue about what they can or can't afford second of all I can tell that you didn't do your research on this because it's a m5 that's actually a joke they increased the weight by 1000 pounds while adding only 100 horsepower nothing can make up for that and real drivers understand this and so does the customers for a performance sedan such as a m5. BMW made the same mistake and Mercedes with the new c63 that absolutely failed big time they are not considering what there customers actually want.
@Chipsdandool6969 weight doesn't mean shit shen it comes to BMW and people who actually drive these cars and review them would know. Most of these people crying and quoting weight will never drive a M car. M2 and m4 are heavy as shit and they feel great besides the piss poor stearing feedback. Driven a M2 and own a M4. Without a scale most people wouldn't even notice it weighed that much more, you'll see.
@@adambarnett4509 okay first of all this is funny because in my family we have a total of 4 m cars and I have driven plenty and I’m not saying this to show off I’m saying this so you know what I have driven including the g80 m4 like yours but what your saying is completely wrong how weight doesn’t matter first off the g80s are in the 4000s Ibs which they increased both the weight and power from the previous gen but made up for it with the increase in power but what’s funny is once you get into the 5000s like this joke of a m5 while barley increasing the power…. Its weight is as much as a x7 as well.. if you drive this cars how there meant to be it is very easy to see how that is a no bueno
@@KaramujdzaI meant the e46 m3, they are very good sportscars. Yes so a Tesla is better. Thats what I said. But you obviously dont understand what I am really trying to say. People who appriciate the classical definition of performance cars, know how important light weight is for handling.
@@Gizzmo112 bro i‘m on your side 🥹 it breaks my heart that most new cars weigh as much as a cruise-ship … i don‘t understand it, who is asking for this? I actually think they should bring back the BMW E39 and E46 in some way 😭😭😭 Just imagine for 1 second .. a reworked M5 e39/M3 e46
Which do you really think will win? Is it heavy? Yes! Let's not be deluded though... an E46, as beautiful as it is, cannot even keep up with an F80, far less a G80 or G90, unless you tune the hell out of it to breaking point. One can love the classics but let's be realistic.
@@wdbsurfer tune the hell out of it: put 5k€ into a e46 330d and you beat the m-titanic on any race track with a smile on your face while shifting gears manualy like a king
The message board is staggering. Look at those sad haters; they can never be pleased. They just keep crying every time they see a brand-new BMW. Fun fact: while these sad haters are crying, BMW sales keep climbing to record highs 😂
Hmm. Not a fan of that filled in illuminated grille. I'm sure someone will come up with a decent after-market fix for that though. Other than that for a while there I was starting to think it doesn't look too bad... until I looked back at the E39, & remembered what peak M5 looks like.
BMWs used to be the most proportional looking cars, side view would be just as nice to look at. Nowadays however, you have think about which view to like and sadly none.
@@Neojhun bro its already been debunked that the last gen is faster than the current upcoming. The new gen is 600 KG heavier, 0-60 times is slower, and its not as nimble as the last gen. Do some research first.
BMW sales are going through the roof, so you can be sure you're not in the minority. You're just not a sad victim of the social media hate trend towards BMW.
The G90 M5 is the first M5 in history to be slower than it's predecessor. If this new M5 lost about 1,000 lbs or was the same weight as the F90 M5 CS, it would be the greatest M5 of all time...
The only good thing about it was the engine sound. You can whine about the design of new BMW's all you want but they're damn good to drive. That you can't deny.
It's a damn shame they retained the original rear door panels. The widebody crease on the rear wheel arches scream cost cutting like no other. They did the same thing with the G80/G81 M3 (Touring). With the current pace of heavy weight cars you might consider a lorry license to be just ready for what's next. Btw, BMW. I'd happily replace any automotive designer that's currently employed at your design studio. I don't need to get paid for it either.
The only few things it missing is them sharp curvier sport styling chassis. I would personally prefer the grills of current m4 and m3 they grown up on me whereas this looks little bit off now
5,000 pounds in a “sport” sedan…NOPE. Give me a CT5 Blackwing with a 6 speed 1,000 pounds lighter, real steering feedback and…not ugly like this thing. AND enough cash left over to buy a 2nd car.
Guys, instead of lamenting the design, let's celebrate what design elements they didn't ruin it with. Yk, massive grille, and a horrendous taillight like the IX2
Ngl they probably made it a plug in hybrid so that in most countries it will be insanely low taxation and that means more will lease it through their company= more sales
Yeah but it has all that mass to shift now which means its power to weight ratio is around the 2014 to 2017 M5. From 2018 to 2023 they significantly beat this M5 and the Competition and CS models stomped on this Hybrid in the power to weight stakes.
plug-in hybrid is such a lazy implementation. high performance cars like this need to be either strictly ICE or strictly EV, no in-between because plug-in hybrid's battery pack is so tiny that you'll run out of electric "juice" in a single 20-mile trip (discount that by half if any uphill climb is involved), then once the battery is depleted, you're essentially stuck with that dead weight until the next charge session.
they added electric motors to add HP to the v8, but add so much weight that it pretty much negates it, while ruining the handling. hustling backwards. The f90 was a legit supercar slayer but this is just not. I would have been happier with just the v8 by itself even if it came out to only 530 hp
why aren't the doors more sculpted? what's with the lame lines for the door edges themselves? the rear fender isn't contoured enough. the trunk also seems too short. tepid, misproportioned, and bloated.
BMW seems to have come up with a design language of late , aimed at making people want over weight ugly things , to which you slowly fall in love with .
You know what, BMW are going so hard into this brutalist monstrous aesthetic, in starting to appreciate it. Don't want to own one, but a very villainous and evil looking car, as though its greed and corruption is grown out of its own control.
Remember when newer models used to be better than older models
Nope. That wasn’t a thing. Every new model BMW gets shit for. Then later on that model gets more praise and love.
@@gaara4667 but no one wants that crap sorry haha the last m5 was praised from the start...
This thing is a turd, it's ugly and fat, how can an M5 almost be as heavy as a Rolls Royce
@@theplayerofus319 doesn’t make sense for you to make such a claim. You’re not everyone and whoever you see hating 90% of the time couldn’t afford it. Just wait and see how the sales go.
@@gaara4667 there are people who buy M5s that don't know what a V8 is.
While the outgoing M5 weighed just over 4,300 pounds, the new one tops that by a cool thousand, checking in at 5,390 pounds.
Dear lord that’s more than a Trackhawk!!
What a joke 😂
More than the Lucid Sapphire.
You know the one that does 0 - 60 not in 3.5 - but in gulp - 1.8.
[hybrid is the way....except, no, it's not]
@@summertyme5748 consider it far heavier than the Model S plaid as well. Plaid is lighter, faster, cheaper. My goodness.
Just make it electric lol! The only reason that 8 is there is for the sound🤦🏽♂️. It’s a luxury car not a Lambo!
Gotta say BMW sure knows how to mess things up
Fr💀 even a kid can do a better more beautiful design like how they fucked up so bad
You'll get used to it. That's what happens every single time.
@@Krishnendu792 true
This thing is gonna eat brakes and tyres for breakfast.
You’ll love it in no time.
The only advantage of driving it is that you won't have to look at it
Well said 👍🏻
huh?
@@kennethawesome He is saying that it is not good looking.
you wont be looking at it either, just the back
Well, assuming you never have the misfortune to come across one coming the other direction.
BMW's car design is evolving, just backwards.
Love these comments from so-called car design experts. I bet you can't even draw a straight line on an A4 sheet. It's a good thing your comment is baseless, which makes it worthless.
Backward would've been better, the F10 looked fire
BMW is digging it’s own grave
Yup😢
Agree 👍🏻
How come
yeah hell no buddy. all the yappers have said this about very new M car they can no where near afford to order. G8X is the best selling M3 of all time bozo
@solerzyoutube Exactly, and it has been proven to be the best performing M3 in all of BMW history - beating all others in EVERY category & trait
5300 lbs makes this 0 fun to drive. 0-60 in 3.5? Previous gen just gained value
I actually think they are trying to get the people who buy yachts/ships interested into buying it 😂
That’s too 100mph read ur facts
So they added 90hp and 400kg weight, just what people wanted. A X5 is lighter
@@johan21678 🤣😂🤣😂
I think more like 700 kilos
Remember when the M5 was a classy, athletic, understated sports sedan for driving enthusiasts, and not a bloated monstrosity ? I remember
Still looks understated. I don't get what's the whole woorah about BMWs looks. Its daring and this M5 is the least daring. Like the new M4 is growing on all of us now.
@@mothusiraseroka1808 "growing on all of us now." yea i would like to drive the car...so that i dont have to look at it from the outside haha
@@mothusiraseroka1808the BMW M4 is a f‘ing masterpiece compared to this ship. The BMW M4 beats an Audi r8 lap time on the Nurburgring
The new BMW M5 weighs the same as the Titanic, i hope they release how many knots this thing goes
😅@@theplayerofus319
@mothusiraseroka1808 si understated that people try not to look at it, it's virtually invisible.
F10 still best looking front end with the LCI headlights
that was the pinnacle of the modern m5s
exactly
F90*
All M5 are ugly. Idk why they dont make it more aggressive looking like the M3. I promise you more people will choose the M5
Or they should make a V8TT M3 as an option
This one is going to take a while for me to digest
F90 m5 generation is still the last great beautiful car from bmw.
The M8 is still around
@@yissibiiyte not as beautiful as the F90. Especially the CS
Best looking 5 series to date. I mean love the E28 and E39, my dad had the E28 and I had 2 E39s, but the F90 is gorgeous. The silhouette is perfect.
E60 ****
@@yissibiiyte eventually bmw will butcher it and turn it into newer bmw design theme 🤢
Something bigger than BMW's own grill? Haha no way.
The grill isn't even that big this time
(Literally the same size as the f90, if not a smaller grill.)
@@magnom3922I think he meant that the heavy weight and larger disappointment of fans make up for the reduced size of grill.
That car just gets bigger and bigger. Damn near a 7 series
Yes, but the 7 series looks better tbh
honestly doesn't look that bad, but maybe thats because I'm used to the absolutely horrendous designs of their other cars🤣
BMW designers were recently quoted as saying "they don't care if people think their cars are ugly". It shows.
so half a ton heavier and lower power to weight than the old model. And the indicators still don't work
And it costs 144.000,00€ before options
I'm definitely buying this one, it looks like a beast!!!
A real work of art. Thanks BMW!
M5 without the gas guzzler tax
The most honest video ive ever seen
Strangely I kinda like how it looks
It’s very good
Nah
I love it too.
This shows that you are not a victim of the social media hate trend towards BMW.
I love it when she explains while driving.. Get it on the road please😭😭..
It‘s the Titanic with wheels. But it weighs a bit more than the Titanic
I love it, loves the G80 and love this even more. What a machine. 😍
Love it. Will not be able to afford it. But love it
M5 was never meant to be affordable.
I gotta say once you drive it that thought process about the looks will go away 😊
f90 and m3 prices will go up after this...
You know a car sucks when they offer “in car gaming” as a selling point. I think I’ll drive home and game in an Audi. I’m not the target for bmw anymore
Lol, exactly my thoughts.
Does this kinda look like a E 63 from last gen from the side?
The more this video went on the more I wish I could afford this vehicle since I had my 2014 528i. I’ve wanted to in five very bad.
why diesnit have bangle butt era headlights.
Just get the last gen
F90 M5 CS for the Win
Hands Down !!
Short, concise review. I love it.
A very good review well done 👍
I mean hybridising was bad already but being the the last combustion m5 it’s a mass murder
That's just a rumor, I highly doubt that.
The m5 died with the F90, this is just a cash grab.
I’m definitely ordering one in racing yellow,fully loaded and ceramic brakes!!!!!!
Great looking super saloon.
2000: I prefer car, it’s lighter
2024: I prefer x5, it’s lighter
It has the worst power to weight ratio among older M5s, therefore even calling it a M car in itself is incredulousness 😶🌫️
Not a big bimmer fan but I think this looks much better than the M3/M4
The weight is an issue but I’m not understanding all the hate on everything else. Overall it’s a very good looking and properly proportioned car.
@@goran3262 he's probably a BMW fanboy or something because no way someone can be so oblivious of the fact that how worse the car is compared to the previous generation
@@goran3262 I completely agree. This is gonna depreciate faster than Audi E-tron
I'm gonna assume that you're being sarcastic
@@goran3262 an F10 Gen M5 can keep with a gt3 - the gt3 may be light but that’s the only reason it’s quick around track. Straight line gt3 performance is actually way overrated
My comment is very straight forward and proven by everyone’s response so far. Outside of the weight is this a bad car? Maybe not what you’d like as a true M car but when has an M car ever been a hybrid? Hell BMW has bastardized the M division for years now. Everyone should wait for the driving impressions before they say it’s an overall garbage performance sedan … just my opinion.
Just good family car. Limousin. Fast and comfortable.
Nice _Intro_ review 💙👌🏾
I’m convinced that people with money just want to be villains now
I usually do not like all black cars, but that is striking. Just watched another channels review with the car in Isle of Man green and both are beautiful.
Tbh i think it looks great and considering its giving the best of both electric and gas I would totally buy it if i could
Most people complaining could never afford this, at least until its 5 or 6 years old. This thing will sell like nuts. Looks beautiful, powerful and the interior is pure Luxury. It is a Luxury sedan....
XM was a flop. So will this
@@Moet_Chandon_x XM is a 180k family SUV....
@@adambarnett4509 first off you shouldn't tell people who you have no clue about what they can or can't afford second of all I can tell that you didn't do your research on this because it's a m5 that's actually a joke they increased the weight by 1000 pounds while adding only 100 horsepower nothing can make up for that and real drivers understand this and so does the customers for a performance sedan such as a m5. BMW made the same mistake and Mercedes with the new c63 that absolutely failed big time they are not considering what there customers actually want.
@Chipsdandool6969 weight doesn't mean shit shen it comes to BMW and people who actually drive these cars and review them would know. Most of these people crying and quoting weight will never drive a M car. M2 and m4 are heavy as shit and they feel great besides the piss poor stearing feedback. Driven a M2 and own a M4. Without a scale most people wouldn't even notice it weighed that much more, you'll see.
@@adambarnett4509 okay first of all this is funny because in my family we have a total of 4 m cars and I have driven plenty and I’m not saying this to show off I’m saying this so you know what I have driven including the g80 m4 like yours but what your saying is completely wrong how weight doesn’t matter first off the g80s are in the 4000s Ibs which they increased both the weight and power from the previous gen but made up for it with the increase in power but what’s funny is once you get into the 5000s like this joke of a m5 while barley increasing the power…. Its weight is as much as a x7 as well.. if you drive this cars how there meant to be it is very easy to see how that is a no bueno
I was badly waiting for sound check😭🔥💯
At this point why shouldnt go full electric? The thing weights 2500 kg's! What a tank. Imagine trying to race that against 1500 kg m3's😅
Good Morning Sunshine, BMW M3 weighs the same as a Tesla Model 3 performance
@@KaramujdzaI meant the e46 m3, they are very good sportscars. Yes so a Tesla is better. Thats what I said. But you obviously dont understand what I am really trying to say. People who appriciate the classical definition of performance cars, know how important light weight is for handling.
@@Gizzmo112 bro i‘m on your side 🥹 it breaks my heart that most new cars weigh as much as a cruise-ship … i don‘t understand it, who is asking for this?
I actually think they should bring back the BMW E39 and E46 in some way 😭😭😭
Just imagine for 1 second .. a reworked M5 e39/M3 e46
Which do you really think will win? Is it heavy? Yes! Let's not be deluded though... an E46, as beautiful as it is, cannot even keep up with an F80, far less a G80 or G90, unless you tune the hell out of it to breaking point. One can love the classics but let's be realistic.
@@wdbsurfer tune the hell out of it: put 5k€ into a e46 330d and you beat the m-titanic on any race track with a smile on your face while shifting gears manualy like a king
Executive types who want and can afford this car will love this even if the hardcore "it's not a M car" lot don't
The message board is staggering. Look at those sad haters; they can never be pleased. They just keep crying every time they see a brand-new BMW. Fun fact: while these sad haters are crying, BMW sales keep climbing to record highs 😂
cool car
Don’t like the lit up grill but overall looks like a beast you will all love it soon or later.
I liked your presentation very much 👏🏻 👏🏻👏🏻generally autotrader you rock
So it's slower than the out going F90 and has a hideous illuminated grille
the wagon is going to be amazing.
Hmm. Not a fan of that filled in illuminated grille. I'm sure someone will come up with a decent after-market fix for that though. Other than that for a while there I was starting to think it doesn't look too bad... until I looked back at the E39, & remembered what peak M5 looks like.
Can turn it off
Looks good 👍
BMWs used to be the most proportional looking cars, side view would be just as nice to look at. Nowadays however, you have think about which view to like and sadly none.
Most powerful? To the crank sure, but not power to weight ratio.
At the wheels actually, as this will put down more power to the ground than Pure ICE of similar power.
@@Neojhun bro its already been debunked that the last gen is faster than the current upcoming. The new gen is 600 KG heavier, 0-60 times is slower, and its not as nimble as the last gen. Do some research first.
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Thank you bmw for changing the ugly grill
This isn't perfect but a step I'm the right direction
Now plz fix the ugly m2 m3 m4
Im in the minority, I know, you dont have to tell me. But I think it looks really quite good.
Finally, someone agrees
Yep this generation 5 series looks awesome. But the power train is a mess and 5400lbs. Aesthetics is not the problem.
@@micrograham yeah it looks nice actually, but the weight
BMW sales are going through the roof, so you can be sure you're not in the minority. You're just not a sad victim of the social media hate trend towards BMW.
Has more HP than the m8 unless they're planning to upgrade it
The G90 M5 is the first M5 in history to be slower than it's predecessor. If this new M5 lost about 1,000 lbs or was the same weight as the F90 M5 CS, it would be the greatest M5 of all time...
It makes M3 stand out~
This makes me happy because the E63 will have to bring back the V8 + E Performance to compete.
nope, will also be a plug in hybrid...enjoy haha
I think it looks good. Yeah its huge but thats just how car models typically evolve. Civics are the size of accords now for example
It's too heavy BMW gotta fix the weight issue but still beautiful ❤️
“Kale 🥬 on a Mars Bar”. I love it and oh it’s healthy! 😘🥰🤗😉
Nice transition to boat manufacturing
V8 +hybrid 🤝 💙
They hyped it so much, I hope gta 6 isn't a disappointment like this.
I noticed that there is no moon roof. Is that going to be an option?
Yes
Would be quite funny if the CS version debuts with the same weight as the f90 m5 or worse, the standard g90 5 series
How BMW lost themselves in less than 15 years? Remember that in 2010 an M5 had V10 engine and weighted less than 1800kg.
The e60 was also incredibly unreliable as fun as it was to drive
You'd most probably have to pay the same price you bought it for again in maintenance
The only good thing about it was the engine sound. You can whine about the design of new BMW's all you want but they're damn good to drive. That you can't deny.
@@MuppetsSh0wmore reliable too.
Might as well fit in a V12 for that weight. 😂
It's a damn shame they retained the original rear door panels. The widebody crease on the rear wheel arches scream cost cutting like no other. They did the same thing with the G80/G81 M3 (Touring).
With the current pace of heavy weight cars you might consider a lorry license to be just ready for what's next.
Btw, BMW. I'd happily replace any automotive designer that's currently employed at your design studio. I don't need to get paid for it either.
The only few things it missing is them sharp curvier sport styling chassis.
I would personally prefer the grills of current m4 and m3 they grown up on me whereas this looks little bit off now
5,000 pounds in a “sport” sedan…NOPE. Give me a CT5 Blackwing with a 6 speed 1,000 pounds lighter, real steering feedback and…not ugly like this thing. AND enough cash left over to buy a 2nd car.
I quite like it
Imagine how great it will be when they return to normal aesthetics 😊😊😊
In the future, it all comes down to who's wheight the most on the day
Id be more happy if they discontinued the m5 than releasing this
No u wouldn't
You'd prob be making sad edits on how there's no more m5s produced💀
I love BMW but in this class I will be going for the E class for the Super Screen
Guys, instead of lamenting the design, let's celebrate what design elements they didn't ruin it with. Yk, massive grille, and a horrendous taillight like the IX2
F90 M5 value is going skyrocket 📈
No, it's not. These will sell well as Merc E53 is more expensive than this
is this the same body as i5 M60 electric?
Ngl they probably made it a plug in hybrid so that in most countries it will be insanely low taxation and that means more will lease it through their company= more sales
Wasn't even excited about this car - the current 5 is ugly, so I knew this was going to be ugly. Outgoing M5C over this every day of the year.
727 hp is absolutely insane for an m5 💀
Also looks insane for an M5
It does look good but personally I prefer the previous generation 😢
Yeah but it has all that mass to shift now which means its power to weight ratio is around the 2014 to 2017 M5. From 2018 to 2023 they significantly beat this M5 and the Competition and CS models stomped on this Hybrid in the power to weight stakes.
727 is honestly not impressive for a giant V8 with 2 turbos plus hybrid assistance. A C63 is only 40hp less with less than half the engine
5300lb for a m5 is also insane
plug-in hybrid is such a lazy implementation. high performance cars like this need to be either strictly ICE or strictly EV, no in-between because plug-in hybrid's battery pack is so tiny that you'll run out of electric "juice" in a single 20-mile trip (discount that by half if any uphill climb is involved), then once the battery is depleted, you're essentially stuck with that dead weight until the next charge session.
they added electric motors to add HP to the v8, but add so much weight that it pretty much negates it, while ruining the handling. hustling backwards. The f90 was a legit supercar slayer but this is just not. I would have been happier with just the v8 by itself even if it came out to only 530 hp
why aren't the doors more sculpted? what's with the lame lines for the door edges themselves? the rear fender isn't contoured enough. the trunk also seems too short. tepid, misproportioned, and bloated.
If you go hybrid. Better to remove the turbos.
i love the design also, very nice paint job i love it👍🏽
Don't know bout yall but I like it . A lot
BMW seems to have come up with a design language of late , aimed at making people want over weight ugly things , to which you slowly fall in love with .
Do a road test for M5 kindly
The big thing is "it's to heavy to wide to expensive ".
You know what, BMW are going so hard into this brutalist monstrous aesthetic, in starting to appreciate it. Don't want to own one, but a very villainous and evil looking car, as though its greed and corruption is grown out of its own control.
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