So the M5 is no longer a sports car that capable of challenging the 911 but is now a muscle car that will struggle against the Charger. Nice work, BMW. Nice work.
@@THESLlCK it follows the classic muscle car formula of being very heavy, being really hard to handle due to that weight and of having compromised braking due to that weight. It is in no way slow it’s just no longer trackable because of the excess weight. I said weight way too many times didn’t I?
Since when was the M5 ever a sports car to compete with the 911? The M3 and more recently M4 and M2 exist to take on the 911. M5 was more the Panamera rival.
@@junnyak47 (4*150=600)+(50*4=200)+2500=3300 so like I said we're almost there, considering the estate will weigh more and a full tank of fuel and voila you need a truck license to drive it.
@@AsmirSut who has 50kg's of luggage per person in a car? 😆 And a 150kg individual would not fit in a car. 100kg i would say is seriously overweight for anybody who isnt muscle bound...unless you live in america. Then i guess the numbers stack up. 🤷
It's because they use the same platform for both fully-electric and ICE cars. However, they could have made a much better design job. It looks like crap, just like all BMWs designed under Domagoj Dukec.
Always the same comment when BMW comes out with a new generation :D A couple of years pass and all of a sudden it's decent, then it's good looking ja then it's "classic"...
@@mrkp2665 Nah. The 5-series has always been a good-looking sleek sedan. Only the Chris Bangle 2004 model was a bit of a miss. And now this one. The iX is objectively hideous. I’m not a fan of the XM or 2-series either.
3:40 your logic makes no sense. You know what made the g80 m3 and m2 still worth it and likable. it was actually faster compared to predecessor unlike the G90, if the g80 came out and it was slower than the f80 everyone would still hate it
@@BMWROYAL It's 0.1 seconds slower to 100 km/h than the F90. The G90 has a higher top speed and a much stronger mid-range. It will beat the F90 especially in short corners because of its better acceleration.
@@BMWROYALit’s faster than the base f90 M5. Watch Joe Achilles video, 0-60 in 3,1 and it’s faster than the f90 m5 completion from 100-200. Why did everyone suddenly forget that BMW lies about their numbers??
@nikitamarynich1794 So why is the 7 lighter if that isn't the point? And I'm talking about i7... the base i7 lwb is lighter than the new M5.... That's just bad
G90 is unbelievably massive downgrade in comparison to F90 and as a reviewer you’re are trying too smooth it’s edges, nothing special. When you’re saying it’s having 100hp more than RS6, it doesn’t make any sense at all, because Audi is much lighter and faster and it will just destroy an M5 any day. It also doesn’t matter that it’s the most powerful M5 yet, if it weighs nearly as an X7. And what’s the purpose of these 727hp if you can use it ONLY in short periods of time? Any other time it’s not as “dynamic” unless you don’t press a bloody button. This car is horrendous in every aspect, and when you told us about an M3 being ugly and how everyone hated it, you forgot to admit, that G80 is dramatically better in terms of speed, handling, tuning potential, emotions etc. than F80. That’s why people are buying sports cars, isn’t it?
I mean there are light weight sports cars you can buy for the same price as this or less. You don't have to buy this car. Personally the plug in hybrid is a great addition and I would love this in a wagon. Yes it's added more weight but when the competition version comes out , or CS if they do it, it's going to smoke most other cars in its class. I look at the AMG GT 4 door and wonder how Mercedes did what they do and it isn't faster. It's just okay.
The thing is though, there’s now clear distinction between the M models. In the past, the M5 was just a more bloated M3 with a V8, I hear people say buy the M3 because it’s smaller, lighter, cheaper etc. it’s now clear the M5 is the plush Autobahn stormer with mega power and the hybrid systems shields it from whatever low-emissions zone rubbish cities in the future might impose. M3 is the family sports car. That said, I see where you’re coming from.
@@Sakosaga You know a new model is in serious trouble when the manufacturer doesn't dare increase the price over the old model, and also say its the "Cost-effective" choice from all the PHEV performance cars....
@@NyzedOfficial go on further bro I’m waiting 🙏 BTW the G90 is gas powered too, not proven to be pos, everyone review i’ve seen has said it doesn’t drive heavy and feels on par with F90, weight doesn’t really matter if the car can handle it and make it feel light which this does, it is only slower than the F90 in reported 0-60 and BMW are always conservative on that, G90 has more overall horsepower so derestricted it will have a higher top speed than F90 aka G90 is faster, man theres a lot of things to nit pick here you are just fear mongering. Anyways I just wanted to know why the F90 specifically is legendary compared to it’s predecessors, i couldn’t care less about the G90.
@@wrththese ppl were flown out on BMWs dime, you Really think the first reviewers are going to give you an honest review? Lol. There is no plane of existence where 1000lbs doesn’t objectively make the car worse in every performance metric. You can drive it straight and not feel it sure. And the EV is a nice value add. But take it on a track? The non-ceramic brakes would melt in 2 laps flat. And I’ve raced bmws that’s not an exaggeration. There is no engineering that can defeat the laws of physics my friend sorry to say. A windy road is enough for you to feel the heft. And the most important thing ppl don’t seem to understand, is the practical result of more weight means the car is that much more disconnected from the driving experience. Which is the antithesis of what an M car is supposed to be. Thus, the last gen was objectively better at its intended function.
I really wish BMW did with this M5 what they're about to do with the next M3 - offer two powertrain options. One is the traditional ICE model with a mild-hybrid to satisfy the petrolheads, and a fully electric model that can reduce BMW's CO2 credits (thus allowing the ICE model to exist) and actually take the fight to rival EVs like the Model S Plaid. Ford uses a similar strategy with the Mustang GT and Mach E, as the electric SUV sales help to reduce Ford's overall fleet emissions, thus allowing the Coyote V8 to continue production.
The additional horsepower is completely irrelevant given the additional weight. And the increasing complexity is a blank cheque for BMW’s service department. Utter nonsense.
Great presentation as always Rory 10/10. However I really don't like this version of the M5. I don't like the hybridisation. I don't like the design or the weight of it. To me this is not what an M5 is supposed to be. I'd much rather the M3 COMPETITION over this every day of the week!!!
This is the M5 that M5 buyer can skip, it is a failure product BMW released while slowly changing its product lineup to be fully electric. Sadly, they ruined this M5 by going hybrid.
Like the G80 M3 with its grilles everyone hated, it will probably become the best selling M5 ever.. LOL. Love to hate em, but BMW is on a roll in terms of sales, vs its competitors.
Everything is going the same way - I remember the Porsche Boxter dropping the V6 power unit for a four pot turbo. BMW are stuck between a rock and a hard place - their global market is changing, fewer and fewer potential customers want this kind of vehicle and they simply have to build cars the market wants to buy. I agree this car is not it and just selling a normally aspirated V8 won't work either. The price is crazy too - £111,400 to start in the UK, though the BMW website did ask me if I would like to consider "their offer".
They should rename this to something like M560i or something 🤣🤣, because they still owe us (like I can afford one) a proper M5. Last gen was awesome! Shout out to the M5 CS.
@@fale892 Yeah, he's doing exactly that. Helping their design team because BMWs design has been universally hated for the last 5-6 years and polestar's has been consistently praised.
Old M5. That battery made this gain weight by a crazy amount!!! I know they don't directly compare but it has the same horsepower as a 2023 Dodge Charger Hellcat and that didn't have any hybrid assistance...
The insane thing is, it's heavier than the fully electric performance i5. So it's not just the battery that's adding weight, they must be doing something else!
@@drunkenhobo8020 V8 4.4L is not a light engine with all the turbos. Only way to keep the V8 is to increase the weight. Despite it's heaviness it still delivers hell of a performance STOCK.
Next m3 is retaining the I6 engine, confirmed by BMW. People will speak with their wallets. Nobody is gonna buy this m5, similar to how the new 4 cyl c63 has almost zero sales.
You're right. Some journalists had the audacity to glaze over new C63's flaws and gave it a rather positive reviews. Yet it has been a sales disaster. The manufacturers and media have become so disconnected with the market and enthusiasts unfortunately.
Without being disrespectful, your comment doesn't make much sense. What did you want BMW to do? You're mad at the wrong people. Regulation is forcing the change to hybrid. Merc went to a 4 cylinder engine, but BMW retained the V8. So what did they do wrong? You're saying changing to a 4 cylinder would be a mistake as it has been for Merc, so how is sticking to the V8 also a mistake? Blame those in charge for the climate change BS, which has forced BMW to adopt hybrid which means more weight. No one here has a solution. In reality, this was the only way BMW could keep the M5 brand alive. Their mistake is probably a bit more power is needed to counteract the weight.
@@StopMediaFakery the Bentley flying spur hybrid weighs almost the same as the M5 at 2.5 tonne, and it's a freaking luxurious Bentley. The Panamera Hybrid however is around 200-250kg lighter. So you're right about BMW (and Merc) being lazy with engineering their cars to be as light as possible at least for a hybrid. Don't forget that Porsche's new 911 pass all the emissions regulations by being a mild hybrid while only weighing 50kg more than the predecessor. So there are indeed solutions.
to be honest I would get this in a few years.. I would like to find one either in matt charcoal gray color or just black..fully option out..probably will be around $70k to $80k ish with maybe with 20 to 30k miles... I would get one..
@@metalpiston1212 I'm no expert, but I'm guessing the new 911 is a flat 6 as usual. The new M3 will retain the straight 6 and be a mild hybrid also. So, I'm guessing that a mild hybrid with a V8 4.4 isn't as easy to achieve, otherwise BMW probably would have done that. I'm guessing this was the only solution they had at the time of designing. Can a 4.4 V8 pass emissions with a mild hybrid? Maybe it can't. I agree the new M5 is too heavy, and BMW need to work on reducing weight of their hybrid system.
It’s so weird how it only looks sporty from certain very low angles. From every normal angle it looks like your grandpas sedan. The silhouette of the old one was so much more engaging.
Besides your excellent review your videos have also better quality and camera work than many movies!! Awesome scenery, angles, resolution, transitions, great work!!
Thanks for a comprehensive review. However, I do feel like the previous gen M5 has better dynamics. You just can't get around the laws of physics with increased mass. BMW had to do what "they had to do" due to Euro emission standards. I'll stick to the previous gen M5....
Yikes @ the weight. Really curious what a non-plug-in version would be like with only a 2 kWh battery. Guesstimate ~100 kg reduction. Would like to see a comparison between the two.
Just hearing Rory talk about all the tech and 'configerability' made long for an e39 m5. Does all the power and tech make a more enjoyable car to actually drive?
No sir, you can charge it also while just casually daily driving your car. I currently own an X5 45e and most of the time I’m charging my battery thanks to recuperation.
The kidney grill might be lit and still bigger than it was but it's not a bad as that last effort. I'd say it's more a compromise than a middle finger.
Hey Flossy, thank you for the years of reviews, been watching your videos for almost a decade! What is your recommendation for gym ear buds? I prefer ones with silicon tips as those feel best for my ears and I want ones with the most insane bass!
Its all getting too expensive for nothing more... Hyundai Ioniq 5N does the 0-60 faster for half the money. In the real world, a decent 0-60 is all the fun your getting in the UK... Try that 195mph trick and you won't get out of jail for years.
I feel that they missed the target with this vehicle. The m5 badge represented a driver-focused car that excelled in handling and dynamics. The m division should have focused more on a performance and response rather than just straight line acceleration with its lumpy battery and large v8. Instead, I would have like to see the new m5 get bigger turbos to have a tremendous top end, electric supercharger to provide boost on the low-mid range, and the MG electric motor assist when not in boost and rpm are too low.
People at the start will obviously shit on it since it's a massive change both visually and mechanically but let's be real, it's still a damn beast in terms of performance, not to mention it's way more suitable as a daily with 68km fully electric while still having similar performance to it's predecessor.
Yeah, it’s much clearer now that the M5 is for storming the Autobahn and being a posh daily. The M3 is likewise, clearly the family sports car in the range now. The customer segment is clear unlike last time when M5 was an M3 blown up and many said get the M3 because lighter, cheaper, smaller, etc.
🎉😂 He is the BEST HOST that u guys have... I always watch these reviews when I see his face! He makes it fun, funny and makes yah wanna purchase lol or say yah that's my ride! Always great info 😅
14:17 '' They didn't make it that much better either '' That's one way of saying : - They made it slower (3:10) - They made it handle worse so less safe to drive (9:07 ; 9:50) - They made it so it doesn't stop as you'd expect it to so it's less safe (9:30) - They made it sound worse (11:17) - They made it wildly uglier (0:13 ; 0:14 ; 0:15 ; ... ; 14:40 ; 14:41 ; 14:42 ; 14:43 )
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Old M5 or New M5? And why?
Old one because it’s lighter and looks better but the new one seems more like a cruiser
Neither. Why? Cos their both BMW's.
older because it doesn't look like a benz
older as it stands out in the motoway!
Older M5 as its lighter and no hybrids
Honestly makes me appreciate the old ones even more
I mean heavy things need a lot of hp, cruise ships have 30,000 - 50,000hp
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@@shingiraimusinga3571 🤣
The largest cruise ships have around 100,000 + hp.
Give it a long enough timeline and this m5 will get there.. @@relaxing_white_noises_by_j1980
@@relaxing_white_noises_by_j1980 can those engines fit in my miata?
would much rather have the last generation m5 competition.
M5 cs ftw;).
M5 CS ftw;)
@@oskarskalski2982 car so good you got to say it twice 🗿
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those will shoot up in prices soon.
Putting carbon on a 2.5 T car is like putting lipstick on a pig.
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It’s like ordering a Diet Coke with your super size meal. 😅
@@TML34 Diet Coke tastes better
maybe it needed it, that and some other stuff might be keeping it from being somehow heavier
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So the M5 is no longer a sports car that capable of challenging the 911 but is now a muscle car that will struggle against the Charger. Nice work, BMW. Nice work.
a muscle car? How?
@@THESLlCK it follows the classic muscle car formula of being very heavy, being really hard to handle due to that weight and of having compromised braking due to that weight. It is in no way slow it’s just no longer trackable because of the excess weight. I said weight way too many times didn’t I?
The m5 has never been a competitor for the 911… and at least 90% of M5 owners don’t take it on track
Since when was the M5 ever a sports car to compete with the 911? The M3 and more recently M4 and M2 exist to take on the 911. M5 was more the Panamera rival.
@@magnustan841 true. Just pointing out that it managed to achieve the same time. That sort of thing makes it a sports car to me.
2.5 tons and M don't go together..
It's an Mposter. 😂
They do. M stands for Massive.
It did in the x5 m and we all creamed over that
BMW XM - has left the chat.
Its same as rs6
Some enthusiasts called it "fat" & honestly i almost agree with them.
Which means they're in the minority
@@Soravielwho isn't calling it fat? It is larger, slower, and heavier than the previous Gen.
@@justinbecker4772 it is not slower please get off the internet 😭🙏
In that colour, it looks like a New York taxi.
its worthy of being a taxi 😂
@@madhunter6420 Barely 😅
A taxi many cant afford
New York taxi is lighter tho. Even with lagged
This car fully loaded up with vacation luggage and fat people in estate form will require truck license because of the weight 3.5T
@@AsmirSut you think luggage and 4 fat people will weigh more than 1000kg's?
@@junnyak47 (4*150=600)+(50*4=200)+2500=3300 so like I said we're almost there, considering the estate will weigh more and a full tank of fuel and voila you need a truck license to drive it.
@AsmirSut dam you did him dirty with the mathematics.
But 50kg luggage per person thats alot lol
@@AsmirSut who has 50kg's of luggage per person in a car? 😆
And a 150kg individual would not fit in a car. 100kg i would say is seriously overweight for anybody who isnt muscle bound...unless you live in america. Then i guess the numbers stack up. 🤷
Yes that car is bananas!😮😅😊
The rear looks legitimately like a Toyota Camry.
@@sooperman12 reminds me of the 5th gen camaro refresh
I just can't get over the FWD proportions of the new 5 series. The bonnet and fenders are way too high for a car of it's type.
@waelal-zubieri5358 That's because it need to jack the chassis up to make i5s battery possible, definitely a compromise
It's because they use the same platform for both fully-electric and ICE cars. However, they could have made a much better design job. It looks like crap, just like all BMWs designed under Domagoj Dukec.
100%
suv styling has ruined cars
The real nail in the coffin is the suspension. 2.5t and no active ride control or air suspension? It is going to be a bumpy mess.
Remember back when BMW made good looking cars?
I think the car looks good. It's just a matter of taste.
That is the reason china is gonna conquer Germany cars
Always the same comment when BMW comes out with a new generation :D A couple of years pass and all of a sudden it's decent, then it's good looking ja then it's "classic"...
3 series still looks good for now
@@mrkp2665 Nah. The 5-series has always been a good-looking sleek sedan. Only the Chris Bangle 2004 model was a bit of a miss. And now this one. The iX is objectively hideous. I’m not a fan of the XM or 2-series either.
It’s midnight in Paris, Rory. We go to work early in the morning and you post this video that in the night. C’mon.
Click like now, watch tomorrow.
@@AutoTraderTVlol, so brief and quick 😂😂😂
So get a refund! Oh, right.......
...not everyone is watching from europe
Gotta be up early for your weekly strike action ig
3:40 your logic makes no sense. You know what made the g80 m3 and m2 still worth it and likable. it was actually faster compared to predecessor unlike the G90, if the g80 came out and it was slower than the f80 everyone would still hate it
I thought exactly the same
@@BMWROYAL it is faster than the base m5 so
@@mrbleach4609 actually no it’s slower than the base 2023 m5
@@BMWROYAL It's 0.1 seconds slower to 100 km/h than the F90. The G90 has a higher top speed and a much stronger mid-range. It will beat the F90 especially in short corners because of its better acceleration.
@@BMWROYALit’s faster than the base f90 M5. Watch Joe Achilles video, 0-60 in 3,1 and it’s faster than the f90 m5 completion from 100-200. Why did everyone suddenly forget that BMW lies about their numbers??
This looks more like a 7 series and has the weight of one too. Should have been the M7
7 series is a comfort car not a performance car, not to mention its much bigger.
@nikitamarynich1794 So why is the 7 lighter if that isn't the point?
And I'm talking about i7... the base i7 lwb is lighter than the new M5.... That's just bad
G90 is unbelievably massive downgrade in comparison to F90 and as a reviewer you’re are trying too smooth it’s edges, nothing special. When you’re saying it’s having 100hp more than RS6, it doesn’t make any sense at all, because Audi is much lighter and faster and it will just destroy an M5 any day. It also doesn’t matter that it’s the most powerful M5 yet, if it weighs nearly as an X7. And what’s the purpose of these 727hp if you can use it ONLY in short periods of time? Any other time it’s not as “dynamic” unless you don’t press a bloody button. This car is horrendous in every aspect, and when you told us about an M3 being ugly and how everyone hated it, you forgot to admit, that G80 is dramatically better in terms of speed, handling, tuning potential, emotions etc. than F80. That’s why people are buying sports cars, isn’t it?
I mean there are light weight sports cars you can buy for the same price as this or less. You don't have to buy this car. Personally the plug in hybrid is a great addition and I would love this in a wagon. Yes it's added more weight but when the competition version comes out , or CS if they do it, it's going to smoke most other cars in its class. I look at the AMG GT 4 door and wonder how Mercedes did what they do and it isn't faster. It's just okay.
The thing is though, there’s now clear distinction between the M models. In the past, the M5 was just a more bloated M3 with a V8, I hear people say buy the M3 because it’s smaller, lighter, cheaper etc. it’s now clear the M5 is the plush Autobahn stormer with mega power and the hybrid systems shields it from whatever low-emissions zone rubbish cities in the future might impose. M3 is the family sports car. That said, I see where you’re coming from.
@@Sakosaga You know a new model is in serious trouble when the manufacturer doesn't dare increase the price over the old model, and also say its the "Cost-effective" choice from all the PHEV performance cars....
Audi rs6 is 5000 plus pounds
Idk if the RS6 is actually faster imma be honest
I still feel the last generation was legendary
explain
@@wrthfinal gas powered m5, new one is a pos, the new one is nearly 1000kgs more than the f90, the f90 is faster, I can go on forever
@@NyzedOfficial go on further bro I’m waiting 🙏 BTW the G90 is gas powered too, not proven to be pos, everyone review i’ve seen has said it doesn’t drive heavy and feels on par with F90, weight doesn’t really matter if the car can handle it and make it feel light which this does, it is only slower than the F90 in reported 0-60 and BMW are always conservative on that, G90 has more overall horsepower so derestricted it will have a higher top speed than F90 aka G90 is faster, man theres a lot of things to nit pick here you are just fear mongering.
Anyways I just wanted to know why the F90 specifically is legendary compared to it’s predecessors, i couldn’t care less about the G90.
@@wrthweight definitely matters, dunno where you pulled that one from 😂
@@wrththese ppl were flown out on BMWs dime, you Really think the first reviewers are going to give you an honest review? Lol. There is no plane of existence where 1000lbs doesn’t objectively make the car worse in every performance metric. You can drive it straight and not feel it sure. And the EV is a nice value add. But take it on a track? The non-ceramic brakes would melt in 2 laps flat. And I’ve raced bmws that’s not an exaggeration. There is no engineering that can defeat the laws of physics my friend sorry to say. A windy road is enough for you to feel the heft. And the most important thing ppl don’t seem to understand, is the practical result of more weight means the car is that much more disconnected from the driving experience. Which is the antithesis of what an M car is supposed to be. Thus, the last gen was objectively better at its intended function.
0:15 Back half, on the side view, kinda looks like a Merc
@@sfm.x minus the exaggerated angular lines
Yes it is...the first thing I notice from this profile
I have to agree 😂
“ and the point you expected to stop, is somewhere back there” man I literally laughed out loud 😂
I really wish BMW did with this M5 what they're about to do with the next M3 - offer two powertrain options. One is the traditional ICE model with a mild-hybrid to satisfy the petrolheads, and a fully electric model that can reduce BMW's CO2 credits (thus allowing the ICE model to exist) and actually take the fight to rival EVs like the Model S Plaid. Ford uses a similar strategy with the Mustang GT and Mach E, as the electric SUV sales help to reduce Ford's overall fleet emissions, thus allowing the Coyote V8 to continue production.
The new cars look weird 🤦🏿♂️
@@chiefsosapepe except cadillac tbh
Looks like a Merc
All the new car are ugly asf
The M5 looks like a person tried to resize a car image but resize it vertically instead of diagonal. Car looks so tall
I totally agree
3:58 reminds me of a Cross Eyed overweight beaver. They tried to make it muscular but it just looks obese and obtuse
BMW has tried too hard in making a Hybrid but lost the essence of a real true M.
You know it's not up to BMW. They have to follow regulations or they won't be allowed to keep producing performance cars.
@@nikitamarynich1794it looks like a clown car
From behind it's like someone decided to put a BMW badge on the back of their Camry..
The previous gen M5 prices are gonna go through the roof
6:14 “George, turn around. I’m going to hide my banana.” George, I suggest you run away.
@@CIRCLEDARK hahahahahhaha
The new M7 sure is neat!
Remember when Bangle's cars were considered ugly?
Still are. Two wrongs don’t make a right
@@das-nyc this one makes Bangle's cars look like an E-Type.
@@BenGoodbrand Ha! Yeah you're definitely not wrong.
Ah yes the Bangle cars - carefully engineered to look like they had been pre crashed before delivery to save you the bother.
@ouethojlkjn I'll take bangle's m5 over this one.
The additional horsepower is completely irrelevant given the additional weight. And the increasing complexity is a blank cheque for BMW’s service department. Utter nonsense.
Top Gear can learn a lot about doing reviews from Autotrader!!! TG's review put me to sleep... Good job and thank you!!!
Great presentation as always Rory 10/10. However I really don't like this version of the M5. I don't like the hybridisation. I don't like the design or the weight of it. To me this is not what an M5 is supposed to be. I'd much rather the M3 COMPETITION over this every day of the week!!!
So what's the solution? It was hybrid, full electric, or no car at all.
This is the M5 that M5 buyer can skip, it is a failure product BMW released while slowly changing its product lineup to be fully electric. Sadly, they ruined this M5 by going hybrid.
They should have made it a mild hybrid with a much smaller battery, non plugin.
Like what lexus did with their GS450h
Like the G80 M3 with its grilles everyone hated, it will probably become the best selling M5 ever.. LOL. Love to hate em, but BMW is on a roll in terms of sales, vs its competitors.
Everything is going the same way - I remember the Porsche Boxter dropping the V6 power unit for a four pot turbo. BMW are stuck between a rock and a hard place - their global market is changing, fewer and fewer potential customers want this kind of vehicle and they simply have to build cars the market wants to buy. I agree this car is not it and just selling a normally aspirated V8 won't work either. The price is crazy too - £111,400 to start in the UK, though the BMW website did ask me if I would like to consider "their offer".
They should rename this to something like M560i or something 🤣🤣, because they still owe us (like I can afford one) a proper M5. Last gen was awesome! Shout out to the M5 CS.
Where does it stop with the power and weight of these cars? What’s the point at this point?
The most critical and honest review of the car i have seen so far 🤔 others have been like a promotion.
What's going on with the BMW design team?
Their head of design got "moved" to rolls royce a month or two ago, so hopefully the new guy (from polestar) fixes it.
They made a newer F60. People are so oblivious... and just like to whine.
@@TC-lk2ev we can only hope
@@TC-lk2ev Polestar? God help BMW
@@fale892 Yeah, he's doing exactly that. Helping their design team because BMWs design has been universally hated for the last 5-6 years and polestar's has been consistently praised.
I love how "journalists" are not saying anything bad so they can keep getting the cars to review.
Very good review. I like that you pointed out the good and bad of the car.
Rory has become one of the best reviews on the Internet, excellent reviews
Old M5. That battery made this gain weight by a crazy amount!!! I know they don't directly compare but it has the same horsepower as a 2023 Dodge Charger Hellcat and that didn't have any hybrid assistance...
The insane thing is, it's heavier than the fully electric performance i5. So it's not just the battery that's adding weight, they must be doing something else!
@@drunkenhobo8020 V8 4.4L is not a light engine with all the turbos. Only way to keep the V8 is to increase the weight. Despite it's heaviness it still delivers hell of a performance STOCK.
Old M5 had a really bad 55/45 weight distribution, 56/44 on M5 CS. That's worse than the audi RS7.
Nice job, very engaging commentary!
I’m looking forward to my M5 Touring early next year in the US.
Next m3 is retaining the I6 engine, confirmed by BMW. People will speak with their wallets. Nobody is gonna buy this m5, similar to how the new 4 cyl c63 has almost zero sales.
You're right. Some journalists had the audacity to glaze over new C63's flaws and gave it a rather positive reviews. Yet it has been a sales disaster. The manufacturers and media have become so disconnected with the market and enthusiasts unfortunately.
Without being disrespectful, your comment doesn't make much sense. What did you want BMW to do? You're mad at the wrong people. Regulation is forcing the change to hybrid. Merc went to a 4 cylinder engine, but BMW retained the V8. So what did they do wrong? You're saying changing to a 4 cylinder would be a mistake as it has been for Merc, so how is sticking to the V8 also a mistake? Blame those in charge for the climate change BS, which has forced BMW to adopt hybrid which means more weight. No one here has a solution. In reality, this was the only way BMW could keep the M5 brand alive. Their mistake is probably a bit more power is needed to counteract the weight.
@@StopMediaFakery the Bentley flying spur hybrid weighs almost the same as the M5 at 2.5 tonne, and it's a freaking luxurious Bentley. The Panamera Hybrid however is around 200-250kg lighter. So you're right about BMW (and Merc) being lazy with engineering their cars to be as light as possible at least for a hybrid. Don't forget that Porsche's new 911 pass all the emissions regulations by being a mild hybrid while only weighing 50kg more than the predecessor. So there are indeed solutions.
to be honest I would get this in a few years.. I would like to find one either in matt charcoal gray color or just black..fully option out..probably will be around $70k to $80k ish with maybe with 20 to 30k miles... I would get one..
@@metalpiston1212 I'm no expert, but I'm guessing the new 911 is a flat 6 as usual. The new M3 will retain the straight 6 and be a mild hybrid also. So, I'm guessing that a mild hybrid with a V8 4.4 isn't as easy to achieve, otherwise BMW probably would have done that. I'm guessing this was the only solution they had at the time of designing. Can a 4.4 V8 pass emissions with a mild hybrid? Maybe it can't. I agree the new M5 is too heavy, and BMW need to work on reducing weight of their hybrid system.
Thanks for cutting to an external shot instead of showing us the transmission jerk from the interior camera 😒. So helpful.
It’s so weird how it only looks sporty from certain very low angles. From every normal angle it looks like your grandpas sedan.
The silhouette of the old one was so much more engaging.
Besides your excellent review your videos have also better quality and camera work than many movies!! Awesome scenery, angles, resolution, transitions, great work!!
Variable speed glovebox completely got me 😂
Mr Reid at his finest
12:00 try to use the electric mode if it's cold. Not working at all
The glovebox 😂😂 7:59
The new M5 hybrid has over 100hp more than the previous gen yet it's slower from 100km/h to 200km/h according to autotopNL compared to last gen.
Its freaking fast as fuck.
Thanks for a comprehensive review. However, I do feel like the previous gen M5 has better dynamics. You just can't get around the laws of physics with increased mass. BMW had to do what "they had to do" due to Euro emission standards. I'll stick to the previous gen M5....
We know where to find the nearest bmw dealership but where do we find the jacket you are wearing?
Yikes @ the weight. Really curious what a non-plug-in version would be like with only a 2 kWh battery. Guesstimate ~100 kg reduction. Would like to see a comparison between the two.
Just hearing Rory talk about all the tech and 'configerability' made long for an e39 m5. Does all the power and tech make a more enjoyable car to actually drive?
Rory, always enjoy your reviews. Question: is it true that the engine can charge the battery? I had read that it’s plugin to charge only. 👍😎🇺🇸🇺🇸
No sir, you can charge it also while just casually daily driving your car. I currently own an X5 45e and most of the time I’m charging my battery thanks to recuperation.
@@yaroslavbauer8137 Thanks for the reply. Cheers 👍
@@yaroslavbauer8137 excellent. Loved the idea of charging while on the move, which is why to me Hybrids make so much sense on a real world.
Literally only watching this because of your intro... loved the "light weight" package 😂 brilliant
This car has a face only a mother would love
That “violent gear shift” is very familiar to those of us that owned the BMW E63 M6 (V10)..I love it!
When can I order this beauty?
Unfortunately bots can’t drive
You can order one right now in the UK, all you need is just over one hundred and eleven grand and a lobotomy.
3:35 Hahahaha😂😂😂😂😂 "LEGO" is exactly the perfect way of describing it
13:30 the next m3 won’t be fully electric
They will release both an electric one and ice M3. The electric one apparently will have over 1000hp
Not of they haven't leaned from mercedes with c63
The quality of this channel 😋😋😋
The kidney grill might be lit and still bigger than it was but it's not a bad as that last effort. I'd say it's more a compromise than a middle finger.
At least it's not as ghastly as in the 7 series.
Rory; might braking be improved with changes to the regenerative braking system? My 2008 Prius can do that.
I think that the Problem with the generation of hybrid performance cars. Is that it has also coincided with them making cars so bloody ugly
Hey Flossy, thank you for the years of reviews, been watching your videos for almost a decade! What is your recommendation for gym ear buds? I prefer ones with silicon tips as those feel best for my ears and I want ones with the most insane bass!
I need to do 500 miles to see my family and I want to drive quickly. This is the car to do it, the M5 has always been the car to do it and still is
Your jacket is amazing! I didn't even notice it until you stepped out the car.
A face only a mother could love
The rear lights look like those of a Merc. Does it also come with silver arrows?
Its all getting too expensive for nothing more... Hyundai Ioniq 5N does the 0-60 faster for half the money. In the real world, a decent 0-60 is all the fun your getting in the UK... Try that 195mph trick and you won't get out of jail for years.
I enjoy your reporting!
Dude...this car is amazing ❤❤❤❤
I feel that they missed the target with this vehicle. The m5 badge represented a driver-focused car that excelled in handling and dynamics. The m division should have focused more on a performance and response rather than just straight line acceleration with its lumpy battery and large v8.
Instead, I would have like to see the new m5 get bigger turbos to have a tremendous top end, electric supercharger to provide boost on the low-mid range, and the MG electric motor assist when not in boost and rpm are too low.
The new M5 does not come with a V8. It has a Four Pot Turbo. I know that does not really help.
why do you think carwow seems to be the only channel not promoting this new M5 ?
I would like to know too. I've watched many reviews about the new M5 on other channels but I'm still not satisfied. I want one done by Mat Watson.
@@bongamagagula8397 could be Matthew was just left out of the party by BMW
would be interesting to find out the reasons for that
Actually really like the muscular design and fact that they keep V8, just why so damn heavy :)
Rory great video :)
I love all the hate reactions from these number-specialists who will never drive a car like this anyway.
From angles I’m looking at the Vauxhall vxr8 but I loved that car, I wouldn’t say no
@6:09 No Diddy ⏸️
😂 “Where’s the Banana”
Enjoy watching his video and listening to him talk.
Lite weight package!! Love it!!
had me going on the glove box joke. Great review as always Mr Reid. I clicked very fast
Intro was stolen from Throttle House. They just did that same balloon into on their Lotus Elise video.
Really appreciate the objective review!
And yes, the peak M5 was F90! 💪
Imagine if the M5 CS was just this car with the electric powertrain thrown out
A new car won't make you happy. You need to rethink your life goals if you think it will.
Best looking BMW in awhile. Bravo!
People at the start will obviously shit on it since it's a massive change both visually and mechanically but let's be real, it's still a damn beast in terms of performance, not to mention it's way more suitable as a daily with 68km fully electric while still having similar performance to it's predecessor.
Maybe that's the problem, too much daily, too little sport
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Yeah, it’s much clearer now that the M5 is for storming the Autobahn and being a posh daily. The M3 is likewise, clearly the family sports car in the range now. The customer segment is clear unlike last time when M5 was an M3 blown up and many said get the M3 because lighter, cheaper, smaller, etc.
it's slower to 60 than the old one
Terbaik Rory! M5 mengikut aliran masa & teknologi terkini Hidup semamanya legenda!
❤️Daripada 🇲🇾
Truly a German machine ❤
🎉😂 He is the BEST HOST that u guys have... I always watch these reviews when I see his face! He makes it fun, funny and makes yah wanna purchase lol or say yah that's my ride! Always great info 😅
Looks like a Chrysler 300 and a Peugeot 508 had a baby.
Weight and numbers don't come up when deciding the best car for! This is the beast hands down❤
this channel is terrible now
u guys shill for everything even if its garbage
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Can I ask where did you get that top?
5:18 somehow the front light are a bit smaller (width), it should be same large size like backlight.
14:17 '' They didn't make it that much better either ''
That's one way of saying :
- They made it slower (3:10)
- They made it handle worse so less safe to drive (9:07 ; 9:50)
- They made it so it doesn't stop as you'd expect it to so it's less safe (9:30)
- They made it sound worse (11:17)
- They made it wildly uglier (0:13 ; 0:14 ; 0:15 ; ... ; 14:40 ; 14:41 ; 14:42 ; 14:43 )
Great Review brother
These manufacturers are giving these heavy cars the ability to handle in a surprisingly exceptable way. Its quite amazing