Thank you, kindly, sir. He’s an outstanding young man, and he is very accomplished in hunting, shooting and multiple sports. A firm handshake. Look you in the eye young man of character. I am blessed. I would get out of California too lol. Take care.
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Just got mine couple days ago and it came with a manual for the yardage reticle scope but didn't have it only crosshairs also I'm gonna go back to basspro and see if they might swap it or something but I doubt it
@thomasharp3246 well that was alright of em ..wass It at basspro?? Maybe my hopes are alive still yet ..have you tested the reticle s?? Is it even close to them?? I believe from what I've gathered they're more suited for 150 grains of powder ..
It was at bass pro. They just pulled it off another one and gave it to me in exchange. I haven't tested it. The scope is pretty good though holds a zero even after being dropped in the woods multiple times.
Now you just need to fire two more shots to verify that one hundred yard zero. I've got the same gun other than mine is a nitrited and Cera coated barrel and many a gallon jug full of water have died at two hundred yards to prove its accuracy. You'll find quite a bit of drop from a one hundred-yard zero shooting at two hundred depending a lot on your choice of bullet. I find the 250 gr. Hornaday SST to be a pretty flat shooting bullet myself.
Great video and I have to admire your son I'm assuming is a fresh faced strapping young man who looks like his parents raised him right. I say this because I live in a gang infested neighborhood where young men walking around with their pants barely staying on in groups at all times of day or night. Again thumbs up on raising your kid right. I live in California 😵💫. Moving back to Wheaton Minnesota
with that kind of short and light bullet, you'll have to be careful at 300yds. They drift pretty noticeably and start dropping fast after about 150 or so; and they lose energy quicker due to a less aerodynamic shape & less inertia. Even still, you can get away with really low kinetic energy if you're bullet has a high sectional density, which most of these "muzzle loader bullets" (cough, pistol bullets, cough) do not have lol. Examples My margin of comfort on "deer": 500ft/lbs at the animal with solid bullets My margin of comfort on Moose/ELk ish animals: 800ft/lbs at animal with solid bullets Add 100-200 ft/lb for expanding bullets, due to their wild variability in living targets, from my experience. Zero 200yds .452" 250 SST (.210 G1, .175 SD) +100gr 777= about 1700fps (my guestimation, 777 is a little hotter than the same weight of BP), 1604ft/lbs, 60.64 lbs*f/s 50yd- +5.2" , 1544fps, 1322FT/LB, 55.08 lb*f/s 100yd- +8.2", 1402fps, 1090ft/lb, 50.01 lb*f/s 150yd- +6.8", 1277fps, 905ft/lb, 45.55 lb*f/s 200yd- 0", 1172fps, 763ft/lb, 41.81 lb*f/s (moose cut-off is 175yds, 150yds due to expanding bullet limiting penetration) 250- -13", 1091fps, 660ft/lb, 38.92 lb*f/s (my deer cut-off, due to the expanding bullet limiting penetration) 300- -33.4", 1028fps, 587ft/lb, 36.67 lb*f/s 350- -62", 978fps, 531ft/lb, 34.89 lb*f/s (solid bullet deer limit would be 375yd, but the SST isn't solid) VS .459" NOE 459-500-RN (500gr, .391 G1, g-est: .353 SD) + 100gr 3F BP= 1400fps, 2176ft/lb, 99.89 lb*f/s 50yd- +6.8", 1330fps, 1965ft/lb, 94.89 lb*f/s 100- +10.1", 1267fps, 1781ft/lb, 90.40 lb*f/s 150- +8.1", 1209fps, 1622ft/lb, 86.26 lb*f/s 200- +0", 1158fps, 1488ft/lb, 82.62 lb*f/s 250- -14.5", 1113fps, 1375 ft/lb, 79.41 lb*f/s 300- -36", 1074fps, 1282ft/lb, 76.63 lb*f/s 350- -65.1", 1041fps, 1203ft/lb, 74.27 lb*f/s ..... 800yd- -742", 851fps, 805ft/lb, 60.72 lb*f/s (Moose Limit, high impact angle (poi: 4" side of spine= poe: 4" other side of sternum), no issue penetrating due to momentum and SD) unrealistic hunting range ... 1550yd- -4222.4", 673fps, 502 ft/lb, 48.01 lb*f/s (deer limit, borderline IDF, still will penetrate deer through, can you even see the deer at that distance lol?) Take away: the new stuff doesn't do anything the old stuff doesn't do, you just pay more for it lol. You seriously lose performance with the lighter bullets for only about 1.5"-3" less adjustment for trajectory out to 350yds. You still have to hold high or low with a 200yd zero for both. MPBR (max point blank range) (deer=6" circle) for the 250gr SST is 160yd( zero for 140yds) ; while the MPBR for the 500gr is 150yd (zero for 125yds)
I use a Flintlock .36 rifle for deer (278gr cast spitzer), and it realistically can take anything in North America (maybe not legally, but that's on account of the state-fudds); and I used to have a .40 (400gr cast spitzer) , had to sell that to pay son's medical bills. Brother in Law made an Augustin style percussion conversion for it and put a malcolm scope on it, he uses it as a market hunter. Younger brother had me build him a .32 express rifle for coyotes and groundhogs that shoots a 90gr hollow-point wadcutter.
No groups, no chrono, no details about the gun what’s the point? You showed you got it to where you’re happy in 4 shots. That provides basically no useful information to viewers.
All of these cheaply produced rookie videos were very useful to the purpose intended. Here is the point. I had a son who was stir crazy during the initial covid lockdown. He loves RUclips and he loves the outdoors. He wanted to do various family orientated pieces as his heart is to get kids his age off video games and into the outdoors. We had bought our first muzzleloader from a friends recommendation and were told we could zero it at 200 in 4 shots and we tried it and did it. It gave us another bit of footage to keep him active. We have a variety of videos we enjoyed doing together and several have useful information for people new to the outdoors. If you don’t like it I am sure there are many videos out there to give you useful information. Move on. This fulfilled its purpose in our lives and we created memories in a tough time for our children. He had about 100 people subscribe and somehow this video got over 12,000 likes and you are the first pretty negative response. Don’t have more to offer you.
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Thank you, kindly, sir. He’s an outstanding young man, and he is very accomplished in hunting, shooting and multiple sports. A firm handshake. Look you in the eye young man of character. I am blessed. I would get out of California too lol. Take care.
Low Pressure 50 Caliber Smokeless Loads in a 209 Factory Muzzleloader, 2 DVD set | eBay
These 2 DVDs contain a demonstration of using Low Pressure Smokeless Loads in a 50 caliber factory muzzleloader.
Got same gun when I looked at display it had the scope you mentioned but the one in box when I got home was only crosshairs. Sux
That would suck. Did you ask them about it
Just got mine couple days ago and it came with a manual for the yardage reticle scope but didn't have it only crosshairs also I'm gonna go back to basspro and see if they might swap it or something but I doubt it
They did give me the other one fyi.
@thomasharp3246 well that was alright of em ..wass It at basspro?? Maybe my hopes are alive still yet ..have you tested the reticle s?? Is it even close to them?? I believe from what I've gathered they're more suited for 150 grains of powder ..
It was at bass pro. They just pulled it off another one and gave it to me in exchange. I haven't tested it. The scope is pretty good though holds a zero even after being dropped in the woods multiple times.
Love the Forest Gump clip. 😁. Ron White says "ya can't fix stupid". 😁
Now you just need to fire two more shots to verify that one hundred yard zero. I've got the same gun other than mine is a nitrited and Cera coated barrel and many a gallon jug full of water have died at two hundred yards to prove its accuracy. You'll find quite a bit of drop from a one hundred-yard zero shooting at two hundred depending a lot on your choice of bullet. I find the 250 gr. Hornaday SST to be a pretty flat shooting bullet myself.
Great video and I have to admire your son I'm assuming is a fresh faced strapping young man who looks like his parents raised him right. I say this because I live in a gang infested neighborhood where young men walking around with their pants barely staying on in groups at all times of day or night. Again thumbs up on raising your kid right. I live in California 😵💫. Moving back to Wheaton Minnesota
Thanks for the vid. Looking to purchase a CVA.
That rifle is made for the magnum load 150 gr.
Yes it will shoot a 150 grain magnum load or 120 grains of blackhorn 209 loose powder
Why is your third shoot with a different gun?
We were dialing in the .270 that day too and never noticed that I put wrong clip in third shot. Nice spot. Rookie editor here lol.
@@InternetOutdoorsman subscribed! so now you have to put a "Rookie Edit" in each new video lol people will forever be trying to find the Easter Egg
with that kind of short and light bullet, you'll have to be careful at 300yds. They drift pretty noticeably and start dropping fast after about 150 or so; and they lose energy quicker due to a less aerodynamic shape & less inertia. Even still, you can get away with really low kinetic energy if you're bullet has a high sectional density, which most of these "muzzle loader bullets" (cough, pistol bullets, cough) do not have lol.
Examples
My margin of comfort on "deer": 500ft/lbs at the animal with solid bullets
My margin of comfort on Moose/ELk ish animals: 800ft/lbs at animal with solid bullets
Add 100-200 ft/lb for expanding bullets, due to their wild variability in living targets, from my experience.
Zero 200yds
.452" 250 SST (.210 G1, .175 SD) +100gr 777= about 1700fps (my guestimation, 777 is a little hotter than the same weight of BP), 1604ft/lbs, 60.64 lbs*f/s
50yd- +5.2" , 1544fps, 1322FT/LB, 55.08 lb*f/s
100yd- +8.2", 1402fps, 1090ft/lb, 50.01 lb*f/s
150yd- +6.8", 1277fps, 905ft/lb, 45.55 lb*f/s
200yd- 0", 1172fps, 763ft/lb, 41.81 lb*f/s (moose cut-off is 175yds, 150yds due to expanding bullet limiting penetration)
250- -13", 1091fps, 660ft/lb, 38.92 lb*f/s (my deer cut-off, due to the expanding bullet limiting penetration)
300- -33.4", 1028fps, 587ft/lb, 36.67 lb*f/s
350- -62", 978fps, 531ft/lb, 34.89 lb*f/s (solid bullet deer limit would be 375yd, but the SST isn't solid)
VS
.459" NOE 459-500-RN (500gr, .391 G1, g-est: .353 SD) + 100gr 3F BP= 1400fps, 2176ft/lb, 99.89 lb*f/s
50yd- +6.8", 1330fps, 1965ft/lb, 94.89 lb*f/s
100- +10.1", 1267fps, 1781ft/lb, 90.40 lb*f/s
150- +8.1", 1209fps, 1622ft/lb, 86.26 lb*f/s
200- +0", 1158fps, 1488ft/lb, 82.62 lb*f/s
250- -14.5", 1113fps, 1375 ft/lb, 79.41 lb*f/s
300- -36", 1074fps, 1282ft/lb, 76.63 lb*f/s
350- -65.1", 1041fps, 1203ft/lb, 74.27 lb*f/s
.....
800yd- -742", 851fps, 805ft/lb, 60.72 lb*f/s (Moose Limit, high impact angle (poi: 4" side of spine= poe: 4" other side of sternum), no issue penetrating due to momentum and SD) unrealistic hunting range
...
1550yd- -4222.4", 673fps, 502 ft/lb, 48.01 lb*f/s (deer limit, borderline IDF, still will penetrate deer through, can you even see the deer at that distance lol?)
Take away: the new stuff doesn't do anything the old stuff doesn't do, you just pay more for it lol. You seriously lose performance with the lighter bullets for only about 1.5"-3" less adjustment for trajectory out to 350yds. You still have to hold high or low with a 200yd zero for both. MPBR (max point blank range) (deer=6" circle) for the 250gr SST is 160yd( zero for 140yds) ; while the MPBR for the 500gr is 150yd (zero for 125yds)
I use a Flintlock .36 rifle for deer (278gr cast spitzer), and it realistically can take anything in North America (maybe not legally, but that's on account of the state-fudds); and I used to have a .40 (400gr cast spitzer) , had to sell that to pay son's medical bills. Brother in Law made an Augustin style percussion conversion for it and put a malcolm scope on it, he uses it as a market hunter. Younger brother had me build him a .32 express rifle for coyotes and groundhogs that shoots a 90gr hollow-point wadcutter.
A lot of good info. We are new to muzzleloader and since the video went to magnum loads.
They maybe "numnuts" but if your not at a Range you have to expect other people.
No groups, no chrono, no details about the gun what’s the point? You showed you got it to where you’re happy in 4 shots. That provides basically no useful information to viewers.
All of these cheaply produced rookie videos were very useful to the purpose intended. Here is the point. I had a son who was stir crazy during the initial covid lockdown. He loves RUclips and he loves the outdoors. He wanted to do various family orientated pieces as his heart is to get kids his age off video games and into the outdoors. We had bought our first muzzleloader from a friends recommendation and were told we could zero it at 200 in 4 shots and we tried it and did it. It gave us another bit of footage to keep him active. We have a variety of videos we enjoyed doing together and several have useful information for people new to the outdoors. If you don’t like it I am sure there are many videos out there to give you useful information. Move on. This fulfilled its purpose in our lives and we created memories in a tough time for our children. He had about 100 people subscribe and somehow this video got over 12,000 likes and you are the first pretty negative response. Don’t have more to offer you.
A-MEN. MOVE ON KAREN !
Great video. Thx.