Ford Expedition vs Lexus LX: I Take Two Big SUVs Off-Road and Pick a Winner
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Great video . This was a hard test for me I love Ford and Toyota.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Expedition 100%
The Toyota will outlive 2 iof those fords
Lauchlan Still We have a 2004 Expedition with 260k miles on it and still running strong.
Humberto Gonzalez I have read that the first Generation Expeditions last as long as the Toyota Sequoias!
Hope yours keeps running strong.
I like both the first Gen Sequoia and the Expeditions.
I think the Sequioa vs the Expedition would be a more realistic comparison...
Yeah I was thinking the same but still the Ford did better than I thought it would.
or navigator instead, I have a 2003 navigator and 2004 lexus gx470.. the verdict goes to long term reliability.. after 15 yrs the lincoln is completely trash while the lexus is still pristine..
Arthur Esclamada Oh, from that era, I’m not surprised. 03-06 Navigator used the cheapest leather, cheapest plastic and had garbage electronics. The 2007 to present Navigators are FAR better and their poor resale value makes it easy to get into a very good , pre-owned, large Luxury SUV for a steal of a deal like Alley McBeal clubbing a seal with an orange peel Happy Meal on the Wonder Wheel!
@Jonathan Losito wait why???
@Jonathan Losito What a poor decision. They will regret this soon
I had the opportunity to drive an Expedition for a few weeks. I had expectations of a big, heavy, boring vehicle, but it was quite the contrary. I truly enjoyed it very much. Lots of power, very quiet, smooth ride and very comfortable seats. The independent rear suspension made the ride much better than an F-150. They can haul lots of cargo, lots of people and can tow heavy loads. Combine that with the shorter version that made it easy to park and maneuver and it was a very impressive vehicle. They don't get the credit they deserve for being so capable. The attention always goes to the pickup trucks.
Agree, and GM. Why is everyone buying Yukons and Tahoe's?
@@paulbram2 seriously. I know people that have had Escalades and say the expedition rides much better
@@paulbram2 This is coming from a 50 year of experience with SHITY GM cars. If you want to live the rest of your life headache and trouble free , steer a way from any American/European cars at all! Stick with Toyota/Lexus and you will live happily forever. Yes, they usually cost a bit more than American cars when new, but they will outlast any of them and most likely your grandchildren will inherit them.
I had an expedition as a rental when my pickup was getting body work done a few months ago. Didn't like it. Steering was twitchy. You had to hold on tight because if you lets go or let your grip loose it would snap back to the center real quick when turning or changing lanes. Felt like it was spring loaded. Took some practice to make smooth turns and lane changes. The transmission hunted gears also, and it always shocked the hell out of me everytime I got out. The worst part was when I went to pass a slow car on a 2 lane road. I hit the gas, there was a bang followed by clicking/grinding and a bunch of warning messages on the dash. Looked like a Christmas tree. Aside from being a little quicker, our sequoia drove better and never had any of the quirks and errors the expedition had. Not to mention the 3rd row seats in the expedition wouldnt fold unless the 2nd row was upright. Even if they were slightly reclined they didn't work. Also dodnt have this problem with the sequoia. In town the fuel economy was about the same, but on the hwy the expedition averaged about 2mpg better than our sequoia, but that was negligible for the peace of mind and better steering in the sequoia. I had actually considered looking at an expedition but that rental changed that.
@@benwilliams9172 The expedition does ride better because it has fully independent suspension vs solid axle in the escalade.
Imagine if they made an Expedition Raptor. That'll be sick. Have the offroad set up from a rapto
and a v8 engine and a short version
Just think how quickly all the suburbanite mothers could get to Starbucks after dropping the kids off at soccer practice.
That would be very cool!.. Ford does have the Bronco coming though!
Perhaps that is what the future Excursion (That Ford just trademarked again) will be. That name so fits with an overlander.
The Expedition Platinum is turned very similar to the Raptor. Quite a bit more power than the Limited.
I own a 2017 expedition and a 2015 lx570. The lx570 is smaller and more capable off-road. The expedition is 2 years newer and at 80k miles is a rattletrap. The lx570 is vault silent. The 3.5 is a great power train. 2 great trucks, but if I had to drive one to Alaska, it’s the lx.
Chris R the 2017 expedition was before the redesign and was like a 15 year old design at that point, I have heard the new ones are built much better.
@@mabbook I've driven the newer ones. They are not built better.
2018 Expedition Limited 3in lift on 35x12.5 Toyo tires and 20” method race wheels. Custom fender flares. Best truck I’ve ever owned. Overlanding is incredible in this vehicle.
I wanna see that ride
Adam Huskins you should make a review and send it to them. Would love to see it
LX570 doesn't have KDSS - It is a hydraulic suspension that you can raise with a flick of switch.
Yes people confuse it with Land Cruiser suspension. Amazing how these guys do all these videos and still get shit like this wrong.
this is cause they really don't know about vehicles. they are just presenters. i realized this a while ago when he didn't even know what a control arm looked like.
Shaun R 🤝
yes it does, since 2007
@@jasonhansen6632 unfortunately that's incorrect. LX570 has low pressure hydraulic system called Automatic Height Control (AHC). The Land Cruiser has conventional suspension with kdss
Dear Ford, please allow some of your younger, more "think outside the box" employees on the design team.
please also make a very basic one that I can afford. I can live without all the tech quirks.
I learned that both of these SUV's can drive... on a dirt road
[Edit] - TFL - you guys are awesome so don't let my snarky comment get you down! That's just my way of asking for more comparisons with these vehicles (the expedition in particular,) but stepped to a level 3 difficulty ;)
Lexus all day 🤷🏽♂️reliable + capable=👌🏽👌🏽
@Jonathan Losito hahahaha who needs its all about who cares about touch or type I think only lazy guy like u want that apple touch screen and all shit carry on with that boring ford
Jonathan Losito buying a car based on its infotainment system is about as stupid as buying a home based on the appliances that comes along with it.
@@huythai1222 couldn't agree more mate 👍
@@abbas8122 lol toyota lexus what's fun about driving those boring underpowered car's
It should be Lincoln Navigator vs Lexus. Ford should be compared to Toyota.
The Expedition is surprisingly good. I test drove one on a whim and was super impressed. I got a new Navigator because I'm fancy tho.
"I got a new Navigator because I'm fancy tho" haha that's exactly what I'd do, and say LOL
Nice flex 😬
We have an expedition and it’s really good off-road and we live in Saudi Arabia so we have dunes and it’s really good
Great video Andre (& staff). It's very impressive that even through the COVID-19 pandemic, TFL continues to put out a steady stream of videos. Your audience is truly grateful, informed & entertained.
Thanks for the kind words!
that ford expediton is a beauty..
Fun video. But anyone who knows SUVs knows that Toyota products are amongst the best off road. Even with AT tires. If you need more space in a Toyota get a Sequoia.
Guys, awesome content as always. You’re spitting out videos like crazy during these strange times we’re in. Thanks for sharing.
Price versus capability. Expedition all day. Especially when it comes time to tow to your camping trip or fit all your belongings then go offroad.
Most Lexus owners usually don’t go off-roading, camping, or towing with their $85k+ Car 😂
Why do I know that? It’s because we own a LX 570 🤣
Well out of all fairness anybody that actually has to tow something generally knows better than to buy a Toyota in the first place.
@@ashes2ashes863 why do you say that?
Greg Kittle
Toyota isn’t really into trucks as much as The Big Three are. Toyota’s are usually in last place when it comes to towing capability. They don’t innovate as much in those areas because they don’t need to, people buy Toyota’s for their “reliability and dependability.”
@@francesco1998 or at the very least that's what they keep telling themselves when they buy one.
If I had the money, I’d go for the Lexus. With a mix of overland/regular driving the Lexus would give at least 200,000 miles of service. Still a little skeptical that the Ford’s EcoBoost would tolerate that kind of abuse over the same mileage.
comparing Ford Expedition vs Lexus LX is like comparing donkey with an Arabian horse
Worldwide quality LEXUS
The donkey wins!
That arabian horse is over priced
This is scam American people make reviews on American car ?
Guess what who is going to win
Francisco Herrera Francisco, drive a pink Volkswagen Jetta!
My 96 land cruiser was an amazing vehicle, it could handle any washed out roads in northern Maine, I always will regret selling it!
Those are tanks!
Great video Andre. $30k less, 3.5 ecoboost, 5 Mpg more, much more space. No doubt it's the Expedition. Can use the money for better suspension and tyres and may even lockers amd still save money
Ya. Front Torsen differential out of the Raptor and a 2" lift with 34" tires would make the Expedition a real monster off road!
it would last over 300k miles though....
@@mchuo7834 they both will. I've seen a 3.5 eco F-150 with over 650,000 km's on it. It was a professional Hot Shot truck. Not an easy life either.
@@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 yeah, but every part on the vehicle probably had to be replaced. Definitely not getting to 650 on stock turbo. And that's a big job to replace.
@@mchuo7834 they claimed it had nothing replaced. Stock engine and trans. Just wearable parts like brakes, filters, oil and plugs. It is cheaper to replace both turbo's on the Ford then it is to replace the starter on the Lexus.
Five years from now you will be glad you chose the Lexus!
I have owned 3 LX570s, 1 LX470, I put about 350000 miles between them and I had 0 issues. - Zero been to 5000k cross country trips in crazy rains and snow storms. Mountain biking in the mountains where are no roads, The Lx has never let me down
uzi z I have both a 570 and 470 and I think the lx470 rides better. What’s your opinion, was your 470 more comfortable?
No, You're Wrong
Lmao obviously you don’t know cars and just listen to the magazines, expeditions are usually pretty reliable and I see plenty of first gens on the road 🤷🏽♂️ we had a 97 and it went to 270k before we finally traded up
chancelor massey nobody is saying that the ford is unreliable. they're just saying that the lexus is going to last longer in the long run. nothing wrong with the ford, just toyota has built the LX with reliability in mind.
10 inches of length difference will do the trick in trying to lay down in the back with seats folded down.
I have to say that I remember when Tommy did a review of the Ford Expedition and did the roller test. The Expedition did amazing. So it isn’t a surprise that it did great in this test. I believe the Ford 4x4 system is great because of them purchasing Land Rover years ago possibly. The Lexus is nice but I wouldn’t have purchased that vehicle.
Based on diagonal and roller tests I've seen that Jeep and Ford tend to perform the best
Why would Ford need to borrow anything from Land Rover when they have been making off-road vehicles since WW2?
They made Jeeps for the US Government in WW2 along with Willys
And aside from that they produced the Bronco for decades and are currently selling a new Bronco along with the F150 Raptor
Land Rover 🤣
@@joecool9739 the 4wd system on the Land Rover is a better system than Ford had. That is only one of the reasons why Ford purchased Land Rover. Just because they made 4wd vehicle doesn’t mean there isn’t better. The system on the Land Rover is possibly the best, but reliability for the rest of the vehicle is crap. But Ford does have its own issues with recalls and fit and finish now. Ford did make a Bronco II, and used a twin ibeam system at one time. Useless is what they were.
That first test for the Lexus was one of the most anticlimactic things I have seen on youtube in a while. It was like "for my first test, I'm going to pull out of the driveway".
Andre, This was a good test. Now we need a 10 year repair bill cost comparison.
And retained value...
Don't act like that test is already decided, my friend has a 10 year old Lexus landcruiser and he's already put over $10,000 in repairs into it. Mostly because of the complex braking/traction system and the air suspension.
Very True!!
Both are going to be much more expensive, almost everything made since 2010 is junk. Meanwhile my 2006 Silverado with 180K miles has had less than $2000 in repairs over its entire lifespan.
@@Wade-lk4yo ya have you ever price a starter replacement on that Lexus? It's twice as expensive as a Ford Turbo replacement.
Taking the Lexus all day over that ford! And it's not even close.
The Ford will be there to pull your lexus out!
Harley Jackson not when it’s always at the shop. That Lexus IS far more reliable than that ecoboost
I’d take the LX- or a Land Cruiser... or a Sequoia... or a 4Runner... or a Tacoma.. or ANOTHER TUNDRA!
Or hilux
2010 LX570 used with 120k miles - $30k, 2010 Ford Expedition with 120k miles King Ranch - $7500. That should tell most of the story.
I still don't know why Toyota dealerships have repair shops.
save 2,256 gallons of fuel ( around $5,000 ) and $30,000 less, ( plus interest, financing ) Ford Expedition win
Ford does have center locking diff. It's the 4x4 button. That locks the transfer case to split power. The Toyota has a center diff lock button because it's constant full time AWD. It needs that button while putting the Ford in 4 wheel drive from 2wd does this
I'm glad to see y'all review full-sized SUVs... finally. This is one segment that y'all ignore too much.
They've tested just about every full size SUV that last few years and had a Land Cruiser project vehicle (if you think a LX/LC is a full size SUV).
I have had a 2020 Expedition Max Limited rental from Enterprise for a couple months now, and will have it at least another month. I have put on 6,000 miles so far, interstate, two lane state highway, lots of curvy roads through Virginia and West Virginia and a couple times in a wilderness area that had 10 degree includes on muddy, rutted roads. This has been a real treat and has handled it all with aplomb. I have been getting 19.5 MPG, except when in the wilderness area. This vehicle has gobs of power, not just for it's size. The only issue I have had was on a steep incline and switchback, it hesitated a second to figure out what great to go in, but recovered very quick.
My neighbor took his brand new 2020 Lexus LX off roading with me last Saturday. I have a 98 Toyota Tacoma with a 4 inch lift, 32 inch BF Goodrich mud terrains and a rear locker.
I took him on some trails that I consider slightly technical. He did over $13,000 worth or damage to his rig the first hour.
My Toy is full of dents and scratches, but I have more fun in my $4K rig off road than he has in his. He's never going back to those trails in that thing.....
This is awesome. I have loved the LX570 more and more.
Please make a video...Lincoln navigator black label vs Lexus lx 570
I have an older expedition (2008 limited 4x4) and that thing does amazing off-road , Very underrated vehicle !
Jonathan Losito I have had my expedition for 5 years and the interior looks great and mind you I have 3 boys all under the age of 10 . It has held up real well surprisingly , I used to buy nothing but GM and Toyota and this was my first Ford , very happy with it and not going to be getting rid of it anytime soon .
I second Angry Chili Mango. I have a 2007 EL lifted with 34" AT's and it's an amazing sleeper as in it will go almost anywhere and you can hardly tell that its been modified. You really have no idea that its lifted with big tires by looking at it unless its parked next to a jeep and then you say, huh I didn't realize Expy's could have ground clearance. Still drives great on the highway, far and away the best ride of any 4x4 overlander that I've ever been in. Stock traction control electronically locks up both the front and rear diffs. And I love the thought that goes into jenga packing overland gear into tiny spaces like a 4Runner, but for day to day adventuring I don't know how you go any smaller than a full size SUV. Its still shorter than a 4door truck, but without the bed/cab separation so you get more max capacity, better security for long term storage, can legitimately do extended overlands with 4 grown adults, don't have crap hanging off every exterior surface, and during the week you can haul 7 people with all the beach/sports gear you want. The only problem is that its so damn perfect than when it dies I just know that I'm going to spend way more money than I want to to build another one. Although when I hear numbers for other overland builds I don't really feel that bad. How did it become normal to spend 70K on a freakin car?
Jason Azuma Very well said , I too feel like there’s no other SUV like the expy , amazing in every way . I was wondering what lift do you have ? And also has it affected the ride quality ? I also have the locking front and rear and it’s freaking amazing , I took it off-roading once and made it pretty far back into the desert and I had doubters and naysayers pretty quiet and impressed with how well it did .
I used the ReadyLift 3/2 and upgraded to Bilstein B6 4600 shocks. It doesn’t feel at all top heavy and not sure if it’s more shocks, geometry, or tires but I feel like it’s a significantly smoother and tighter ride on road. Off road I have to air down if I don’t want to get beat to death, but the ground clearance is an incredible 12.5”. And yeah I’ve run it all around Death Valley, Mohave, Big Bear and people are always shaking their heads in disbelief. The fully independent suspension with massive anti sway bars does not allow for much articulation so thank goodness for those locking diffs! Also the fact that even the EL version has a shorter wheelbase than the Gladiator...what?!
The Lexus doesn't have KDSS, nor does KDSS lift or lower a vehicle. The lexus uses AHC/AVS and the Land Cruiser uses standard shocks and KDSS. The AHC/AVS on the Lexus pretty amazing for flex, ride height, comfort and reliability. As another note, the "locker" on the Ford is actually just a clutch based LSD that can clamp to lock, but it builds heat and can be overworked. Its a nice gesture from Ford for an differential they didn't have a locker for. Plus it gives you better on-road traction. Its certainly more than Toyota gives you.
$84k?? $100k?!?!!?!?!?
What the hell is going on with prices???
Seriously, shoot anything over 50k for me is a BLUR@#$$@!#$!#$!@#$!@#$
They all are crazy
As with anything else, prices are going up!
CAN'T WAIT FOR THE 10 YEAR UPDATE
Well if your thinking durability we just sold a 1998 Explorer 100% original 250,000 miles daily driver nothing but fluids and tires. My 93 Landcruiser needed lots of expensive stuff done at 150,000 or it was done. My brothers 98 LC has had lots of expensive repairs exhaust headers etc also. Funny enough both of us now drive new Ford trucks. 20 yrs of Toyotas for me and honestly there’s nothing Toyota has today I’d bother owning.
@@U20E27 My dad had an Explorer from the same era that went to the junk yard at 120k miles and he replaced it with a 4Runner that's never been in the shop for 150k miles through dirt and snow. Ain't anecdotal evidence grand? The Land Cruiser is the longest lasting vehicle ever made by a country mile and that's backed by statistical evidence. Check the TFL video on longest lasting vehicles if you don't believe me.
@@mechmat12345 Toyota is Weak ..IFS Suspension is Very Weak...Way too big for trail running and it's has No Ground Clearance...Gayota!!!
Ford’s f series trucks are super reliable but I don’t like high stressed eco techs. Lexus’s reliability is unquestionable
"Best possible mode"? Dammit my truck doesn't have that mode!!!!
I don't have the newest version of the expedition. But i was able to fit 275/70 R18 (33.1 inch) all terrains on my 2017 xlt with no clearance issues whatsoever. The difference is night and day.
I have a 2014 Expedition that I am using for over landing. One of the reasons that I chose it over a Lexus is the legroom in the 3rd row seating area. The jump seats in the Lexus are fine for children, but the 3rd row in our Expedition are MUCH better for our teenagers. When the kiddos are permanently out of the house and we are empty nesters, I'll re-look the Lexus, but right now, the Expedition was a very easy choice to make.
Hate to correct you sir, but the 5.7 in the Lexus is not the same engine as in the Tundra.
Love it, Lexus does something well “its Lexus engineering blahblahbla” when the Ford does well going up the hill. “wow the Michilin tires did really well”. Guess I know how this video ends.
ted sheldon no you don’t
I said the same thing
ted sheldon
Clearly at the end he said he’s gonna go with the Expedition
Other things he said in the very same sentence: "Wow", "I am impressed", "Good job Expedition". I guess a little sensitive? See if you can stick around for rest of the video - he proceeds to explain how Expedition is better in every way.
Tires do matter. You'd expect the Lexus with low profile street tires to slip more than the more aggressive tire on the Ford.
I enjoyed the video. Thanks for producing it. I think it is apples to oranges comparison. I think a better comparison would be a Toyota Sequoia to an expedition.
Agreed, or instead of Sequoia at least pair the Lexus against the Lincoln Navigator. That'd be a neat comparison too.
I imagine one way to get the price down on the Lexus, is to choose that unfortunate champagne color.
Or just buy one that's two years old since they haven't changed in forever. It will still outlast a brand new Ford.
mechmat12345 they dont depreciate much in two years
@@mechmat12345 outlast wow you know about future kid
I have both a 17 f150 and 18 expedition. I researched these two so much I don't think I'll ever change
Love it! It's nearly a redemption video for the Expedition for the last one what the broken rear ELSD. Now, if you have time, and no snow, you should take it up to the same spot...
I have an lx570, i love everything about it. AHC suspension is super luxurious, plenty of torque for towing, wheelbase is great offroad, my only complaint is i wish it had a rear e locker like my 99 4runner. Having true locking diffs would make the LX the most capable and reliable offroader available
I doubt either of these will ever leave the pavement in the real world.
The expedition will leave the payment when it makes it's way to the junkyard
Maybe not in the first couple years, but there are a lot of LX 450s running around on trails so it follows that these will be before long.
@Luis Bolanos Mini van? What you talkin about?
@@daniels2761 You can't compare these to an LX450. An LX450 is way more capable off road than either of these. Solid front axle, locking diffs, not nearly as much electronic crap.
@@Ryno-fp7pm I get what you are saying, but it stands to reason that if LX's and Land Cruisers from years past have made it onto trails, these will too. People take Range Rovers off road for crying out loud.
$100k and $71K for a vehicle? Are you kidding me? The common man making 50-70k cannot buy one of these. Car prices are out of control !
I personally like the 4Runner the way the backseats fold down conventionally. Doesn’t have the backseats in the way on the side and it’s just an huge empty space since the seats go into the base like the expedition. Much better than the seats just folding to the side.
FYI - No KDSS on LX 570, great video tho! Love your videos, guys. we need more nathan!
I'd take the Expedition all day long over the LX, for two simple reasons. Price and Wheels. I don't know why the manufactures continue to feel the need to ruin a highly capable off road vehicle with low profile wheels. It adds price to the vehicle, ruins the ride and performance for off road, and in my opinion just makes the truck ugly. Ford did it right with the wheel and tire combination with the FX4 package.
Lexus knows it’s customers and so does Ford. That’s why they have the wheels they have. If I buy a $90k LX and want to go off road, I can afford new wheels and tires. 99% of LX buyers aren’t going off pavement, hence the wheels.
Different classes of vehicles and customers between these 2. Not at all comparable beside being 4x4 SUVs
Can just add some Land Cruiser wheels for under $1k.
@@leenestle Or better yet, Tundra 18" wheels.
@@kurtf31r that would work. I’d go white LX with TRD pro wheels.
I just bought my 2019 Ford Expedition 3 months ago. It is a Limited trim with the 302A package. So I do have 22" wheels which look awesome but I am definitely not taking it offroad yet. I do have dreams of making this truck an Overland vehicle (and quite possible an Off-road trailer from Off-Grid trailers called the Expedition 2.0 :) ). I am keeping it stock for the next 5 years and then maybe "ruggedize" it a bit after that. I just do not want to void any warranties at this moment.
"When you are in a vechicle that cost one hundred thousand dollars, you must of a tailgate. I think that's just a rule." literally I LOLed to that one! Thanks Andre!
Before I even watch it, I’m curious how you thought to compare an Expedition to a Land Cruiser Prado lololololol
It’s not even a competition 😂
The GX is a prado where as the LX is just a standard LC
America vs Japan... howd that go last time...
Good to see you guys are taking bigger SUVs offroading. There are so many CUVs and other small AWD vehicles stealing the show.
We have a 2019 ford expedition max xlt an it is really nice.
It’s good if you plan on trading it in, otherwise it’s as unreliable as it gets with those turbos
@@EndlesSuffering Lol. Your just a hater to anything that isn't a v8. Our 3.5 Ecoboost in our f150 has been doing amazing for 5 years of a lot of driving
You want to talk about luxury in a Expedition then you should have brought the Expedition Platinum or King ranch
The Expedition's transfer case locks when placed in 4H or 4L no need to press a button
The expedition will always be my favorite suv
Lexus all the way man, no comparison between the two vehicles in terms of off road capability. Lexus LX570 built based on the legendary Land Cruiser therefore, Lexus wins. It needs smaller wheel size and better off road tiers and that is it....Ford more focus for on road comfort and ride quality and to be fair if comparing luxurious we should put the Lexus against the Lincoln not the ford or compare the ford Expedition against the Toyota Land Cruiser... Thanks for the video and keep up the good work and stay safe...
@TFL I am a big fan but I believe this is a mismatch. It should have been the Navigator(which DOES share the platform) vs the LX
I've done crazier offroad with my lx with stock wheels and without using any of the Lx off road settings, this video is a joke!
Land Cruiser vs oversized unreliable minivan, tough choice😂😂😂
You guys should do a Lincoln Navigator off-road comparison vs the Lexus 570.
I would definitely choose the Ford cost of repairs are less for the $20,000 in difference in initial purchase price I could put fox racing suspension 35 inch off-road tires a lift kit and much much more and buy an aftermarket warranty and still have money left over there’s no comparison and for that amount of money I’d put front lockers on it
Or you could buy a 2 year old Land Cruiser for the same price, do all the same shit you just listed, and it would still outlast the Ford.
@@mechmat12345 Yea right, buy an ancient gas guzzler for the price of a new modern SUV that's more spacious, powerful and has all the latest tech, with a full warranty. Brilliant.
I’ve personally taken my LX on both of these “features”. The first test is essentially a hill out of a parking lot. The second feature is steeper and more washed out than it appears on video.
My LX had zero drama on either section. Go take that Expedition up to “Rocky Top” I know the LX can make it ;)
Also since you like that area to test go check out Gordon Gulch and Upham Loop.
Love that Ford Expedition ♥️😍
Love my 2015 Expedition EL w/ 3.73gears, torque for towing, don't have the limited slip but the most offroading it does is at campsites with a camper behind it. 18mpg highway, 10mpg towing 6000lbs.
15:50 I had to put on my sunglasses from Andre's ultra white belly lmao Nice video guys!
dude i really didnt need to know that
😭
Fords are not off-roading suvs ....Toyota and Lexus are the kings
As an expedition owner, 19mpg combined is hilariously off. More like 13 in the city, 20highway. 25 on the highway is possible if you go 55 and barely touch the throttle
Old Gregg+ You might have a heavy right foot. 😂
I have a 2016 Expedition EL and highway @65 it gets 21. City is more like 17-18.
Rhy Dynamic nope live in an area with a lot of stop and go. This thing destroys fuel (2019) about as badly as my 4Runner on 33s with full time 4wd. Way faster though :)
My Expy Max 4x4 with HD Tow and 3.73 gears has life time mpg of 19.5 though only 15K miles so far.
At last, the Ford Expedition now got a proper 4x4 system and finally ventured out beyond the Walmart parking lot.
As always, awesome video! LX/LC is a beast off road and very reliable.
What does it offer for people who want to lease a car though. Nothing ?
@@Natethegreat200c shouldnt be leasing anyways, at least if you value your hard earned money. Besides lease deals on the Lexus make it only marginally more than the Ford.
Alan Bowers Lessing makes for a more pleasurable experience on your daily commutes. No one wants to keep buying cars every 10 years paying top dollar.
@@Natethegreat200c So you'd be happy shelling out $25-30k every 3 years just to have that? I'm not paying a dime currently and even if I bought new every 10 years, I'd be saving tons. No less pleasurable on the daily commute either.
Nathaniel Rudolph
That’s different for us we gladly put down 50k on a new LX570 and finance the rest for 0% APR
I definitely have to disagree, the Lexus has a solid rear axle with much more articulation. Only reason it “slipped” was because the crawl control was on. If you went as fast as you did with the expedition, it would have gotten the same result. But great video as always!
Manveer Bajwa nah, the rear locker in the Ford doesn’t let it stop, just moves forward. If the Lexus had it it wouldn’t get stuck for a second either.
Actually he wasn't even using crawl control. He was using MTS and in the wrong mode to prevent slippage.
How can you go off-road with that snowplow of a front spoiler on the Lexus? It has the underpinnings of an off-roader with the body of an F1 car. The two simply aren't compatible.
True that the independent suspension on the Ford does not allow for a lot of articulation.
Ken Kracko yea, I would definitely go with a Land Cruiser over these two any day, Lexus is way too ugly and the Expedition is decent but definitely not worth $70k
The lincoln is the only full size american SUV I would buy. I love it. The LX is in a whole different class. It is smaller and built as a Luxury land cruiser. If I was going to need to go more serious off roading, the LX would be it. But for daily driving, the Lincoln seems more nimble to me, even though it is bigger. I rented a Lincoln for a week and loved it. Much nicer than the escalade/suburban
i love the size, the look and the "engine GRUNT" of the expedition
Is it just me or some people agree with me ? I dont see the Lexus appealing exterior and interior wise maybe because i see alot of it especially here in the middle east , or maybe because of the hard fanboys that always just yell at anyone dont like the lexus lx , its a good car and reliable but for me i just cant see whats so special about it i’d rather take an escalade or a navigator .. let the fighting begin ..
The Lexus win's in reliability but the ford wins in sales
Reliability doesn’t matter with a luxury car. That’s why it’s not a luxury car because them trying to be reliable is holding it back.
The Lexus LX will last 5 times longer with less maintenance.
With more expensive maintenance
@@zachjohnston8086 definitely not.
The biggest reason why I would choose the Ford is that you could lift it a lot easier.
Easier than pushing a button? :P Lifting an actual Land Cruiser is not a problem at all.
Looking forward to your comparison between the Expy and the new Tahoe/Yukon.
The rear locker on the Expedition did the trick going up that hill, where Lexus had to think about it for couple of seconds. Great video! Thanks
I have a 2011 Ford expedition XL i’ve also found it to do very well off-road where smaller cars like a Subaru Forrester will spin out and Lose traction the expedition just keeps on going. Also when it comes time for pulling heavy loads such as a vehicle or someone out of the ditch my expedition Shines where a truck cannot get the traction to do it. I love the expedition it’s one of my favorite vehicles and I’m definitely saving for a newer model
Wait you mean suv don't come standard with the Separate glass tailgate, the dad has a 2008 Ford explorer with that and it's a xlt Trim so not even a midrange trim.
I have never seen a vehicle lift a wheel so fast. Maybe it doesn't translate well on video, but that initial hill climb doesn't look any worse than my driveway.
The Lexus is about 10 years dated. I can’t believe they haven’t redone that interior and replace that gas guzzler of an engine with one capable of getting 20 mpg on the interstate.
They won't change it because its "reliable" - lazy more like. Can't Toyota innovate and maintain its excellent reliability record?
fredbrackely just give em a few more years. the lexus twin turbo v6 should be going into the tundra and other models by 2022. Toyota doesn’t like to have their customer r&d their stuff for them like Ford does. You know all those early model ecoboosts that blew up and left people stranded on the road? Shit even late model ecoboosts are trash. Toyota doesn’t play that game because their customers realize the value of their time and dont purchase shit products that will be in the shop all the time for ridiculous engineering flaws.
15:50 I would argue Lexus buyers dont see a Ford as competition, regardless of whether or not it's true.
Mean while the ford will be worrh few grand in few years and the Lexus barely loses any value compare to any other brand.
The bullet proof reliability of the LX is a no joke, you literally can drive this for life!
Tbh id pick the expedition. Sadly that LX is so ancient with the technology :( they still have not updated it. It’s worth as much as the expedition, not 100k
The most surprising thing about the $100,000 LX was its use of 1990s cctv cameras and their outdated dash screen found down in the Corolla . The most impressive was its hydraulic suspension and fridge. Though I know Dometic offers something for the Full Size Fords.
I'll never pay $70,000 for an Expedition.
Which one do you like better
Like: Ford Expedition
Comment: Lexus LX
COMPARISON SHOULD BE IN LINCON NAVIGATOR VS LEXUS 570
Would go with the Lexus all day long but with a better set of tires. Reliability is second to none and the quality is superb
This is like comparing Danny Devito to Arnold Schwarzenegger
Just bought a 2018 expedition max. Love it so far.