Lexus LX Vs. GX: Which One Is the Best Overland SUV? Here's What You Should Buy!
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- Опубликовано: 14 июн 2021
- Roman and Andre take the Lexus LX and the Lexus GX - both billed as capable, yet luxurious off-road SUVs - out into the dirt to see which one is the better buy.
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You guys seemed pretty confused by the features.
Yeah they’re not exactly the brightest.
For example?
If the GX had a split gate like the LX, it would be perfect.
or the slide down rear window like the 4runner
GX has rear air suspension, LX has front and rear hydraulic suspension.
Is that hydraulic system similar to my X-REAS I have on my 4runner? I really like mine except its getting a bit worn out!
@@lutomson3496 no. The XREAS is terrible. Delete that crap and upgrade to a real suspension setup. It'll cost you more to repair your XREAS than upgrading to something like Toytec, Eibach, Fox etc. Trust me, your 4Runner will drive so much more smoother compared to XREAS.
The Lexus LX since 1998 has an active hydraulic system thats powered by a pump with accumulators at each corner. They're very reliable and very durable. If you keep them serviced, they'll last for an extremely long time. The LX suspension raises and lowers and has a selectable setting to tighten or loosem the shocks where XREAS just stiffens the shocks to make it corner better in theory.
The LX has front and rear hydraulics or suspension
Is KDSS like the improved XREAS?
@@minrathejunglist KDSS is a hydraulic system for the antisway bars. XREAS is just a cross link between shock absorbers. 2 different systems.
I just picked up a 2021 GX and I absolutely love it! Traded in my Discovery Sport and that's the best thing I've ever done.
Not quite apples to apples with a small Disco Sport. The big brother Discovery would be a direct competitor to the GX.
@@user-up1wy3sy8k Yup. The big Discovery is definitely competition with the GX. But I took the Lexus because I want a vehicle that will be reliable, tough as nails. The Discovery Sport served me well, but the fit and finish was not all there. I had check engine lights come nearly a dozen times. I'm very happy with the GX.
@@vadim9342 how much did it cost
@@bannedone3ice138 Well the sticker on the window was 59K. But I am financing it. Paying $750 a month with 2K down.
@@vadim9342 nice
They got solid rear axles as well! Independent in the front only.
I bought a 2014 GX460 about a week ago and I’m in love with it. You can feel the quality.
The lx doesn’t have air suspension is has hydraulic suspension
That's correct. It uses a hydraulic system. On which, the pump is located on the right rear wheel well, behind the rear bumper. It uses Toyota AHC fluid. The suspension settings and easy entry are fabulous. I just simply love my lx570. 🤩
@@enriqueamontero4695 Came here to say this!! These guys are automotive journalists, and not novice ones. They've been doing this for a long time. It's kind of an inexcusable mistake
I realize that for some people, this is a pet peeve. Who cares whether it's air or hydraulic? Well, for Toyota quality matters, and they don't do things that have poor quality.
I have a pretty old LX570, with 120,000 miles it's working perfectly. When you say air suspension, you infer a system that breaks often. People think of Land Rovers, European vehicles like Mercedes and BMW, they have countless air suspension troubles.
I think it's important that people realize that Toyota knew that air suspicions were a problem, and decided to do it differently, in a way that it's dependable. Incorrectly saying that it was an air suspension inferred that it had the same quality as these European brands, and that's a problem.
@@joneclegg it actually uses version of a Hydropneumatics suspension that the Europeans used on R-R, Mercedes, Peugeot ..... www.google.com/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=lexus+lx+gas/hydraulic+suspension+system&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiA7a6KvZvxAhVbWs0KHfwKBisQjJkEegQICBAC&biw=1536&bih=722&dpr=1.25#imgrc=taUwVtCdRDsQVM
@@joneclegg Toyotas newer air suspensions are very reliable. Only issues usually are the air bags on the older models just getting dry rotted. The hydraulic system is even better
I take my LX 570 regularly off-road. But of course, not with the stock 21" wheels. I use 18" wheels from Land Cruiser :-)
It's a nonsense to take LX for offroad tests on 21" wheels. You should change the wheels/tires first. BTW, at the beginning of the video you mentioned that LX 570 is actually Land Cruiser and GX is Prado. It would be much better to say, that both are Land Cruisers. LX is Land Cruiser 200 and GX is Land Cruiser 150 or Land Cruiser Prado. Toyota use name "Prado" without words "Land Cruiser" just on a very few markets.
Please, also note that LX DOES NOT have an air suspension! It uses hydraulic suspension.
yes they could've just swapped out the 21" with the 18" since there was a LC200 there. but the reality is very few LX owners will take her off road enough to justify getting a second set of wheels/tires. personally i traded in the 21s for the 18s and put on all terrain tires. then I got a set of the base 20s and put on nice all season tires.
If you say LC and LCP it would legit just make it more confusing because now people be think there are two Landcruisers.
Seems to me that 1 they didn’t care to prep for the videos and 2 they have no clue about off-roading !! Great comment
@@Oneofmany1s nope that’s typical of them
LX is a beast. I looked at both and went with the LX. It’s never let me down and I’ve been in some sticky situations.
Roman and Andre, There is one thing we can all agree on, now is a good time and possibly the last time to stock up on Lexus V8 SUVs.
For how long you guys have been doing these reviews, you should realize how important it is to get basic info about the cars correct.
Spot on. They care too much about TRX to do basic research on anything else.
Yes they focus on some vehicles more than others… I rather see less content with higher quality vs more content with less quality…
I think they separate them into different videos.
Yeah.. Roman said they don't have a solid axle lmao, as I was watching the axle articulate 🤣
@@lunamaria1048 he is correct, they both have independent suspension front and rear.
I have a 2018 GX with 3 inch lift and 34" wildpeak at3w tires and a high clearance bumper cut with rock sliders. It's been able to handle everything I've thrown at it with no issue.
I'd love to see a video of it in the outdoors on RUclips! Haha!
I currently have two exactly the same as the ones in the video, the LX 2021 and the GX 2022 and they are the most wonderful cars I have ever had.
Which do you prefer?
And also which of the two has a more comfortable ride(on road)
This GX460 has the optional rear air suspension ( adjustable rear air bags intead of coil springs) and hydraulic KDSS system. The LX570 has hydraulic adjustable shocks front and rear with coil springs.
The first thing i did when i bought my new LX in 2014 was take it offroad.
How many comments are going to correct them about the suspension not being air but hydraulic?
As many necessary to make them more accurate reporters. Facts and important, especially on these relatively expensive vehicles
Too many. I had the rear air suspension on my GX fail once on a trip (cracked air bag). I promptly replaced the rear suspension with coil springs. I had zero hydraulic suspension failure on my LX.
@@runnerxa My LX is 21 years old, with 220,000 miles. No issues at all on the hydraulic
What’s the difference?
@@jaycho6747 air suspension needs a compressor and air bags or some kind of system to retain the air suspension. Hydraulics is different in that it uses a hydraulic lift system, with hydraulic fluid and hydraulic shocks. Think of a scissor lift or boom lift. They all use hydraulic. It is just far more reliable and pretty easy to service. It’s not as simple as regular shocks but provides an amazing ride quality. It’s pretty easy for me to change the hydraulic (or AHC “automatic height control”) in my LX. My buddy has a Land Rover and he had to change out all the air bags and then then compressor and now just did away with them all and went to normal springs and shocks.
I’d pick the LX, it made everything look easy even with highway tires. So sad the land cruiser is gone from the US but it’s overdressed brother is here to stay.
Very beautiful episode 😍😍
I’ve got a lifted 2003 GX. Great car. Runs on 87 octane, unlike these new ones.
I just picked up a new GX the other day and I was wondering if I could have it run on regular gas?
@@vadim9342 yep you most certainly can. No issue.
I run 87 most of the time in my 18 GX. I'll run a tank of 91 every 5 or so fill-ups to clean out the carbon deposits. I get no perceptible difference in power or mpg from running premium.
I run 87 on both my GX and LX for years without issue. Lexus manual says 91 but we all know the 2UZ-FE and 3UR-FE is used in other Toyota vehicles that use 87 octane.
@@runnerxa it is tuned differently. If the gas door says 91 you use 91 to avoid problems. Yes the computer will compensate for the lost octane but it will cause issues down the road
Cannot speak to these big machines as I had an RX350 and it was superb. Can only imagine these taken it up a notch. As much as the tires are incorrect for the terrain, you cannot argue the terrain management systems compensated really well.
Check the SUV Battle channel videos - the RX350's AWD is quite awful on rough terrain unfortunately. The traction control doesn't work as it should despite special modes. Though Toyota has corrected that in latest edition of the RAV4 with that twin-clutch system in the rear. So previous generations of crossovers are disappointing unlike true off-roaders of Toyota.
Yep. My friend takes his LX570 off road all the time. Took off the big rims and put 17s on there for a more meaty tire.
I had a 2016 GX lux pkg. it was nice but even with air suspension, it was a bit rough. We have a 2019 lx570 lux pkg now. way nicer drive with the hydraulic suspension. best car I ever owned.
Great video...We Love our GX460
Personally I would love to see a behind the scenes series on cameras, drones, and the various equipment used for TLF truck and TFL off-road because filming on trails at high altitude and getting it right must take some doing and it would be interesting to see how the magic is done.
Old GXs skyrocketed in price cause all the FJs got bought up
I am from the Dominican Republic. Car company like Toyota, Honda, Nissan to name a few import vehicles to the Dominican Republic that are not available in USA. Vehicles like Toyota Hilux, Toyota Fortuner, Toyota Land Cruiser Prado, Toyota Land Cruiser Diesel, Honda City, Nissan Frontier Diesel, Isuzu DMAX, Mitsubishi L200 to name a few. It would be nice to compare those vehicles.
The best overlander is the one you can afford. I just bought a 2005 Grand Cherokee with the Hemi, I am waiting for the lift kit now, then the bigger tires and I am on my way.
I would like to see a WK go up against the 2020 GX.
Very true. You don't need a 70k+ vehicle to overland. Often a used, older Toyota or Jeep is your best bet.
The best overland is the one you can afford and damage as well.
The vast majority of of new GX’s are 57-63k and you would have to work pretty hard to crack 70k like go full luxury and add on more options.
Shocking they never really mention the LX is the same as the land cruiser in everyway, except for its stupid front end and the AHC suspension. High mode in LX may even have better breakover and departure angles than LC.
I also like the land cruiser better than the lx.
I have both. A LC with AHC. You over there have the wrong trucks…..
@@svein-haraldribland8559 eh... I mean the full-size truck market is America. We have the best trucks in the world and a much more competitive market than everywhere else, at least when it comes to that.
The car designers had to have been watching Battlestar Galactica Cylons to come up with those grilles.
Cylons? Funny, I always think of megamouth shark.
So true lol!!!! I've been saying that for a couple years now.
Seeing how Honda went back to conservative grille designs starting this year, I'm hoping Toyota is going to follow this trend.
So these two are in the Wrangler 392 and Ram TRX price range?
lexus should have an off-road tire/wheel option. i know only 4 people would check that box, but it would allow these reviews to be somewhat relevant to those who actually want to take their trucks off road
I'm looking to get a new car and upgrade to an SUV from my Lexus LS460 and I want something that's luxury and primarily a daily driver but if I want to go overlanding and camping in country back roads in upstate NY, I want something that could potentially handle that. I'm seeing a lot about the GX do people recommend that as the most capable of the luxury suv for offroading? Would really appreciate any recommendations
"Who's gonna take a $100k vehicle offroad and potentially damage it?" Raises hand. :D
me too.. they act like it's a 500k Lamborghini... some of us live off road so there is no choice if you want ability and comfort
Yup, me too.
Buy a 2013 LX - They have not changed that much and I got mine for $36K.
Have 2014 Lexus GX460 and I love it , both are dinosaurs and good vehicles
Exactly what mine is👊🏼 (Lexus_ luthor14)
CAn you do an off-road battle between RR Cullinan and Bentley Bentayga? Thanks
In my country it’s very normal to take both of the LX and GX to off road
The critical difference is that is basically completely unknown how to defeat and remove the LX's AHC suspension. Lift parts for the GX are all direct bolt ons, but I've heard of people going to the trouble of fitting Tundra rear ends to the LX to lift them.
? LX replacement suspension is super common.
The LX are usually $10k less than Land Cruisers used. Portals that fit 38"s and regear it an additional 1.35:1 are $17k. So a $7k difference. Stock steering geometry is retained. 5" of axle lift.
Now price out how much it would cost to regear and lift Land Cruiser to offer the same clearance and performance and you're at the same overall cost.
@@RP-ue9wynot the modern ones. It bricks the newer LXs if you remove the factory suspension. You can either trick the level sensors or install portals. That's why most people choose Land Cruisers and resale is lower on the LX.
We see many of LX in NYC. It's more sign of Luxury and wealth. And these city cars never sees off road trips. 100% agree with Roman If I want real offroad I will go with Cruzak or 4RUNNER.
8:42 the beluga whale is the infinity QX80. The Lx is a different fish.
You guys should mention that the gx only have air suspension on the luxury model AND they are only on the rear, only the rear is adjustable in the Gx.
A locking center diff isn't "nice" it's absolutely necessary for these to be four wheel drive.
The suspension set up in the LX is very different compared to the GX. The GX has a rear air suspension and the LX has AHC which is hydraulic and change the height of the entire vehicle. AHC has also proven to be much more reliable than air systems.
Rear air suspension in earlier models isn’t reliable at all.
@@bannedone3ice138 the rear air suspension on both the 470 and the current 460 aren’t very reliable after 7+ years and 125,000+ miles (depending on climate & abuse). I was just saying the Hydraulic Active Height Control system (AHC) in the 100 & 200 series LX’s (and some 100 series LC’s) is far more reliable and actually a very clever and robust system.
I am looking forward to an off-road review of the new Land Cruiser 300 with front and rear diff locks!
I'm a big TFL Fan, one of my fav channels :) - However - given you guys presumably understand these landcruisers - I'm confused why you say the BOTH have air suspension, yet no elaboration? The GX has rear air suspension (but ONLY the rear), whereas the LX has hydraulic suspension for BOTH front and rear. Completely different setups, and it seems you leave the audience believing they're similar (if not the same) type of system. Both different. GX's system is not really meant for offroading (even if it does somewhat help perhaps), It's more for load leveling/weight distributing, as opposed to the LX.
where was located for truck show off-road thank you TFLoffroad
Thank you for telling us how tall you are 👏🏾
I envy the USA here in the Philippines a GX is 120k usd and the LX starts at above 200k. The Prado base variant around 70k for the 4.0 V6 and 85k for the 4 cylinder diesel.
I just picked up a 2023 Lexus GX 460 Luxury with sport package and multi terrain cameras. The ride is so smooth. I love the ride. I am glad I bought the last V8 Lexus. The newer 4 cylinder makes the engine work too hard.
I would like to see an older model testing!
Oh what’s up Schiltz
Whenever I hear air suspension in a LX.. we already know they know nothing about them.
What kind of watch is Roman wearing?
Such cool cars
Looks like fun!
GX is the best SUV ever made. As reliable (or maybe even more reliable) than a 4Runner but drives better and is more premium. 2022 is the last year of the V8. Better buy one now before they are gone!
LX570 is my car and favorite ❤
GX460 for the win!!!! LX has bigger footprint, not so good on a narrow offroad trails. Everything else is pretty much the same. Save your $$ and get yourself a GX. GX is bang per buck and worth every penny.
Every situation is different. I own both for almost a decade so here is my subjective opinion and may differ from yours...
GX is not great if you haul a family of 6+ on overland adventures or have the need to tow more payload than 5500#. I know the GX is rated to tow 6500# but honestly I would never tow at my max rating. 3rd row access on the GX sucks. At least the LX's 2nd row center console folds down to allow access to the third row. My family prefer to ride the LX over my GX because it is more spacious inside and has a much more useful tailgate (changing table, sitting area, access roof). If I solo, I will take the GX for its nimbleness and size. Engine is much more powerful on the LX even though it drives like a boat. With heavier duty OME/Icon springs to assist the AHC suspension, you can safely tow 8100# just like the Land Cruiser despite LX's tow rating of 7000#. There is more sound insulation compared to my GX. The entire underbody on the LX is flat and tucked up, unlike the GX and 4Runner which have the front diff dip down. The stock suspension (AHC) setup is much better and reliable than the rear only air suspension on the GX. Plus my rear air bag leaked during one of my family overland trips. However, you can upgrade the GX's suspension with aftermarket ones and coil springs. You can fit 34in tires without extensive modification. You can fit a 34in tire in the spare location without a fuss whereas the GX's spare location max out at 32in (33in if you deflate the tire a lot). You can easily swap out the stock 20in wheels with 17in/18in Land Cruiser or Tundra wheels. The standard stock transmission cooler is twice the size of the one on the GXs that come with the towing package option.
I (not a mechanic by trade) work on both cars myself and have spent many hours underneath both (preventive maintenance) as well as a 4Runner to know each platforms' built quality. The GX is well built, but the LX/LC is built even better. The LX/LC is worth the money if it fits your specific needs.
Thank you but I definitely do not change my GX470 I see that it is more suited to the all-terrain
if your credit history does not allow you to buy LX just go with GX
My папа has a GX but the LX is freaking amazing
"Get the Land Cruiser".....oh you mean the one you can't get in the US anymore?
Why? the Lexus LX is basically the same, at the same price with a much better sound system.
@@kurtf31r I'm not sure if the 5.7 LX is available anymore either. Lexus is replacing it with a "600" model which as far as I can tell is nothing like a LC. Also, I can't remember and please say if you know, did the LX have KDSS? Did it ride on springs or bags?
Lx has the preferred rear hatch opening with the tailgate that comes down. Hate the whole door opening to the right, just feels werid 😂
We literally can't buy the land cruiser, interesting choice of advice!
I think you guys do a great job. But everyone needs a break (just like all ICE/EV cars and trucks need a fuel/charge-stop).
I can obviously be wrong but noticed your fatigue also in the last Nathan's Mercedes vs Genesis review.
I have Lexus GX 460 I absolutely love it ❤❤
Where is this?
Brut they stopped making the landcruiser in America and in Canada we don’t have it lol
Just get the Landcruiser, which is discontinued and not available after 2021 😂
Got me a 2016
Honestly I'd rather have the LX, the only thing that makes me want the Land Cruiser is the Toyota LC badging and it's heritage.
or the J201 in the back, also not available lol
with a decent build you can test these at the rubicon trail and will do just fine
Air suspension? AHC is hydraulic
honestly new land cruiser is super awesome, toyota took 2 years only testing because reputation , not sure about next gen lexus .. lets see , hope we get that land cruiser..
I've owned both and both are excellent within their segments. We now have a Land Cruiser and a GX so we are obviously fans. If I had to pick just one between the LX and GX it would be the GX, but that's only because we prefer the Land Cruiser version of the 200 Series over the LX and if the Land Cruiser were in the mix then it would hands down in my eyes. You can do a sensor lift on the LX with its hydraulic AHC and clear 35's, the GX is a 150 Series so it's essentially a 4Runner with KDSS and all 5th Gen lifts work with it.
of course we take them off road! they're awesome!
The sports design on the GX hurts the approach angle if I’m not mistaken. But my wife doesn’t take her 2017 off road so it doesn’t matter.
GX460 IS PERFECT ANYWHERE ANYTIME, ITS INDESTRUCTIBLE
I own a GX470, drove a 2020 GX for two weeks, drove a 2021 GX for two weeks. All great. I’m a big dude at 6’3 so I’m sure I’d like the LX even better.
Damn you even taller then the Lexus GX460 because that stands at a height at 6’2
Yep, 21 460 here. 6’3 290 and I fit great. Something I can’t say for some other off-road vehicles like the wrangler.
I live in the middle east and i can confirm ive seen them go off-road.
With respect to "Who is going to take a $100,000 vehicle off road?" My Earthcruiser has been through Lockhart Valley to the Colorado, down the JQS trail from Roan Ridge just to name a few. So there are some of us out there.
Lx vs defender needs to happen
Let me know when they redesign the front end.
The GX is perfect for the person who wants a V8 4Runner (since Toyota won’t sell the 4Runner with a V8) same reason the 86 GT doesn’t get a turbo……they’ll sell you a Lexus RC with a turbo.
The 4Runner is vastly less sophisticated. Driven back to back, the Land Cruiser 150/GX is a much more refined car.
So I just learned from the comments section that the LX actually uses hydraulic suspension
I sooo wish that Toyota would ditch the third row seating. The Lexus LX600 rollout was a misfire though with the incomplete packages and that silly grill.
I love my 2016 Landcruiser
Which one is bigger, has more leg room, storage space, etc?
LX is bigger and 25k+$ more.
GX will get you anywhere you need to go and do it in style.
Didn't they upload this video about 3 days ago? Why again?
Its's a little frustrating to see some of the world's best off road systems put into luxury vehicles where few people will use them off-roading. I'm not saying nobody will, but having a vehicle like a Lexus, Land Cruiser, Land Rover, G Wagons, etc, etc. lessens the probability that someone will because of the cost, and they hinder their potential by putting on low bumpers and big wheels/small tires.
Go for the LX you might aswell go big or go home, so yep at that money you just bite the bullet and get the low spec LX instead of the highest spec GX.
I have off-roaded a V8 Prado for many years and it never let me down and hardly ever got me stuck enough to need to get the winch out or a mate in a Discovery to give a tug and did it with style and when sold I did not lose any money on it.Andre where is the UAZ looking forward to seeing what you make of it, I used one in the Ukraine while helping the charity Cheynabol dogs a worthy cause.
I'll like the lx
Both are good. Depends on budget and application.
Can’t wait to own one in 10 years when they’ll become not such a pain to the wallet haha
4Runner is the answer. Quality built, price, resale value, design.
Enjoy these videos, but want to point something out. Yes I am a Toyota freak. It’s sort of annoying in every GX or LX video that you guys are skeptical or sort of surprised they perform well. Um duh… and yes people who buy these do take them off road, there are also people who buy Jeep’s and never take them off road. People buy what they can afford or what they like. The facts are that they both are over built Toyota / Lexus body on frame beasts. Put a bumper, some tires, and a lift and they are unstoppable.
Correction - it's not an air suspension on both Lexus SUVs, it's HYDRAULIC.
The Prado
He has a point. The first thing anyone with a brain would do is switch out the low profile rims and tires to something with more give. Ever bent an aluminum rim on a rock? I have, not cheap, and not repairable.
Jesus Christ the Russian dude doesn’t know how to drive , for 20,000 dollars the gx is totally 💯 better option , let’s face it both are comfy , reliable and crawly 💪🏻🔥great video by the way
Lexus is changing the direction for the GX, it will be the off road focused vehicle in the line up so hopefully the angles and ground clearance improve and v8 will be going away
Hopefully the V8 doesn’t go away but I doubt it. I hope they use the 5.0.
Proven correct
We need a Lexus pickup!
Never crossed my mind but that would be pretty sick actually. Just make it a super luxury pick up but I doubt they will with the new tundra coming out. They will have a super luxurious trim for those customers but it would be cool to see a super slick Lexus pickup.
@@andyham6094 There is one Cadilac pickup in my town and I simply love it. Lexus can even hop on this unibody pickup trend and make an RX based pickup. That would be pretty sweet.
@@chezzyperson3339 Lexus would probably fail as well, business wise.
Here in Australia, plenty of people have chopped their Landcruisers to convert it to pickup