The biggest problem with Man City's 115 charges...
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Somehow I have a feeling they will be just fine. Just stick money into someoe's pocket and they are golden. UEFA sure like that
Madrid been doing that since the spainish royal regime era..chill😂
Were you born yesterday? The establishment hates City. That's what all this is about. Get a clue ffs. 🤡
@@power279 and that is why professional football's depth of truly competitive clubs is dying out. we have 2 clubs that are real favorites for the cl and maybe 2-3 more dark horses. coincidence that these 2 clubs are city and real?
@@power279 and that is why professional football's depth of truly competitive clubs is dying out. we have 2 clubs that are real favorites for the cl and maybe 2-3 more dark horses. coincidence that these 2 clubs are city and real?
As a City fan, I don't know what will happen. But our chairman who we have no reason to distrust has always refuted these charges and I take his word for it.
The burden for proof for the PL to find City guilty is higher that what UEFA needed. So if UEFA could not make all the charges stick, it mean the PL would have a hard time to also find city guilty.
arab money makes the allegations disappear. i am sure that city is guilty as you can be but you're not the only club that bought their success
@@xax2952 cool story bro, luckily a verdict is not made over hopium from jealous rival fans, it will be made from proof. You're sure but have not seen the PL's proof :), meaning you're just hoping. Stop it.
@@kattphatt and cool story to you as well. the justice system in every western nation is flawed. there are rapists who were set free due to lack of proof, does that make their crime less criminial as well? at least to your logic it seems like it.
UEFA could get it to stick, it was just because of the expiration date nothing could be done.
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ffp didt start in epl until 2012/13 season, i'll leave it here
Most prem teams do the same shit, just to different extents, its the lower tier teams that are holding the pitchforks.
i don't know, bro. sounds to me that you are way more in favor of city than you should.
1.: it's primarily not about the financial mismanagement. it's about creating a great advantage over other clubs who are competing for titles whilst complying to the ffp rules. it's disgraceful that their whole dynasty is build on fraud. and think about the longterm results. clubs like united and chelsea are currently struggling with getting the quality for their spending is a sideeffect of mancity being the biggest brand in the premier league. players don't want to "waste their time" building up a dynasty they want to be part of one. obviously city is not the only reason but i believe it's a serious one.
2.: if you subtract 35 charges for not coorperating from the 115 charges then it still means they have 80 charges of fraud
3.: the argument of mancity's players are innocent and shouldn't be punished for the "financial mismanagement", how you called it, of their club. now apply that please to liverpool players or maybe mourinhoes united players who absolutely are not at fault that another club doesn't give a single flying f about rules and regulations that honor sportsmanship and maintain the integrity of the competition known as premier league when they came in 2nd place in a year where they left all their blood and sweat just to fall short against that plastic club's domination. the victims are not the mancity players but the players that were already fucked over. and your logic is: we can't take away the titles cause it would cause too much heartbreak amongst city players and since all the other players who came in second already been through the heartbreak it's ok??!?!?
No he was just being fair and balanced...Sounds to me like you already think they're guilty and it hasn't been proven. Uefa already tried this and failed miserably. Go read the cas final report and see how much "cheating" was actually proven. And before you come at me with the whole "it was a technicality" bull only 2 years 2009-2010 evidence wasn't considered and they even got on to uefa for the wild goose chase they put them through. If the highest sports court in the land couldnt prove it why on earth would anyone in their right mind think the pl who cant even get their own house in order be able to prove fraud on an unprecedented scale? What's more likely is the pl getting embarrassed...theres already reports saying that citys most recent lawsuit against the pl has had at least a somewhat good outcome for city and if that did just imagine what the 115 case for the pl is gonna end up being for them. Stop with this whinny "my club didn't win because of man citys cheating" nonsense...your club couldnt win because they're not as good. Simple. Chelsea, United, Arsenal spend way more year after year and still can't compete. Citys management and recruitment teams are just simply the best and it's obvious that it's not even close and that's why others finish second.
Man U and Chelsea have spent much more than Man City have in the last decade without fraud. Their struggles are more on poor sports management. They overspent on players they did not need nor had the quality to justify their costs. Even if they pulled the same fraud they still would be struggling because they don’t know how to spend their money properly.
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You think charges are a guilty verdict or an admission of guilt. The entire premise to your holy yap of a word salad is ❌
5 in a row
Don't forget they charge them with rules that didn't exist before.
So it's like revoking Argentina World Cup because the hand of god has been reviewed by today's VAR.
You absolutly can buy success
Disagree. You can buy good players, but they may not work together on the pitch. This is why matches are played.
@@JT-hy1sn i really hope you see how stupid this is someday. Its not only the players, its the coach, the staff, the specialists, the way you travel etc. Inthink you live inside a romantic Charlie Sheen Redskins underdog movie. Well there were some amazing teams in kind of spirit and team building, like Quarabag. Give them a billion, or Leverkusen and see what happens. You point is naive and childish. Barcelona bought cryo-chambers for their players to reduce injury, really expensive, don‘t u think this can give you and advantage over lets say Mallorca with a budget less than Barcas most expensive player? Think first
@@DIN_A8 50/50 city had spent alot of money before they were even succesfull. with guardiola came the success slowly. so if you don't have a concept and just buy then, you won't necessarily be succesfull just cause you are spending. also there are a lot of clubs in the premier league spending but most of them aren't successful just cause there isn't that much success that can be spread.
He neglected to mention that some of the charges of paying player wages via set up charities As for UEFA overturning their charges well it is well known they are very suspectable to bribery
Another tin foil hat clown
Would a player be happy accepting a medal for being 2nd best, of course they would because they weren't 2nd best, they lost because ultimately the team cheated by adding more strength and depth than a team run fairly could do, which over the span of a season really pays off. It's like asking a sprinter if they'd accept gold if their opponent was DQd for doping, of fucking course they would.
Don't forget that over the years those other teams who finished 2nd below City were also competing for the same players who ultimately chose the stronger team and larger pay packet.
Also you say the ramifications are not worth it, that's bullshit, Ask Everton, Ask Forest. Both teams breached FFP were deducted a pathetic amount of points, and managed to stay promoted BECAUSE they had the advantage over other teams.
Leicester have just gotten away with it scott free.
The EFL are a soft touch, I'd be shocked if anything meaningful happened and even then with the appeals process we probably won't know for many years.
What I'd like to see happen is on a season by season basis is a points deduction calculated, and the final table adjusted.
IF that final table means they didn't qualify for the ECL on the season they won it, that should be stripped from them too.
Obviously all titles and cups should be stripped from them and awarded to the runner up.
Players should hand in their medals. This sends out a message to the club, the players who rush to sign for the club that the owners are as sketchy as fuck and maybe there are better run clubs out there that won't mean your career has been for naught.
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The red cartel✅
You are just chatting
man city fan ?
IDK anyone else saying this but I don't blame City fans or player for this debacle, their punishment should be to force ownership to sell like they did with Abramovic. State-owned teams are ruining the game and the ownership is responsible for the systemic cheating
They should be relegated to league 2 and stripped off of all their titles. Let’s see how many players will stick around, and hell, if the manager even stays.
The charges are must worse than you make it to be. In a nut shell its about PL are charging city for getting money from their owner true another company...
I doubt you read the case. No need to “nutshell”