Manchester city might have 115 charges, but United should have 116 for still playing Harry Mcgriefer. That clown has ruined both my fantasy team and my Stake parlays since 2019, we bought him for 80mil and hes now worth 18mil…
surprised to see so many negative comments about Borson, not only is he clearly a financial expert but he's very well spoken and composed and way more respectful than the majority of people I see in these kinds of discussions.
It's because these people who are criticizing him, want him to say that City be punished without ample defense, that's why these idiots are cursing him
...and if Arsenal or Liverpool win the League by 2 points over City, we'll have a team winning the league knowing they really got less points than another team and so this season will always have an asterix beside it unless the team who win the league win by more points then City are deducted, well that's my opinion anyway, kets hope it doesnt get to that 😆
Not if they look at previous league titles where Liverpool finished by one point. We can take solace that Rodri should've been called for handball in the Everton game a few years ago. @@JoeScottish
@@JoeScottish YOU made the claim that if a team wins the league under circumstances of having an advantage over other teams that it has an asterisk next to it, I'm applying those same standards. I'm only following your logic
Weren’t City already found to have committed a lot of these same charges by UEFA, but because of a loop hole of statute of limitations it was thrown out?
@@bluemoon1716 “ in 2020 the club overturned on appeal a two-year UEFA ban from the Champions League for financial irregularities between 2012-2016 “ They were found guilty by UEFA, but won on appeal in the court of arbitration of sport because of a 5 year statute of limitation. I was wondering if any of the charges overlapped.
@@brandonflood5850 uefa claimed guilt and when challenged couldn't prove it. CAS found city innocent and even criticized uefa for their poor case. The timed barred evidence came from a hacker known to tamper with evidence and extortion
@@brandonflood5850 uefa claimed guilt and when challenged they couldn't prove it. CAS found city innocent and even criticized uefa for the poor case. The time barred evidence came from a hacker known to tamper with evidence and is guilty of extortion.
@@bluemoon1716 UEFA is a governing body and did find them guilty. The 3 judge panel of CAS voted 2-1 to overturn the case. CAS themselves stated, “The Cas judgment makes no suggestion of bias, and that Uefa by no means filed frivolous charges against MCFC. As also acknowledged by MCFC, there was a legitimate basis to prosecute MCFC.”
35 of the charges are for City not cooperating with league investigations. Why would you refuse access to your accounts if there was nothing wrong? Surely you would happily let the investigators in to clear your name if you were innocent 🤦♂️🤡
If the police turn up and ask to search your house so they can work out how to screw you on something do you let them or tell them to go away and do it the proper way and prove you did something in a court of law with independent judges?
@@NordicMeatShield cry me a river. you are blabbering because the team you support has been found out for cheating. the agreement to play in the league is that investigators can come in and check your accounts when ever they like. you absolute moron
If it was so obvious that they hadn’t cooperated why didn’t they charge them after 1 time of failing to cooperate? What’s probably happened is the prem have asked city to supply details leaked in the German paper and city said it doesn’t exist so we can’t and therefore they have failed to cooperate
@@billance48 you mean the files Football Leaks hacker Rui Pinto has been charged and gone to prison for knowing he's proud of exposing them. those files?
@@billance48 you clearly don't understand the charges. ill explain (CAPS for investigators) WE WANT TO SEE ACCOUNT 13/14 no WE WANT TO SEE ACCOUNT 14/15 no that's 2 charges - right there then when actually going through the charges after being access to the files Rui Pinto hacked from their accounts (which he's in prison for) and found out why City said no. what did everton and forest get punishment wise and how many points did they have again?
He was employed I think up to 2007 by man City. The take over was 2008. He could potentially have advised on the takeover? As it is Man City then we will never know one way or the other
If we assume that he is set to be a witness, and he gives biased opinions in the media, those biased opinions can be used to impeach him in court. The logical entailment is it would then make him less likely to be a witness if he is much easier to discredit
Simon Jordan's final point sums it up best. Nobody who claims to have irrefutable evidence they are innocent would want their name dragged through the mud this long. Why would an innocent club be so obstructive and not try to clear its name a few years ago? It makes no sense. City have been rumbled and they don't like it.
How would it have tried to clear its name though? Surely the court hearings are the perfect place to display this evidence. It’s a legal battle. If City released all their evidence into the public then it may mess with the legal proceedings. That’s just common in civil disputes..
Yep. Alot of fans are being so obtuse about all of this. City would have handed over evidence to PL like any other club does, instead of refusing to do so so many times and dragging on the case.
MASSIVE bite from a Bertie blue nose. The biggest cheats in English football history. 35 charges relate to you not complying with the PL investigation. Why didn't City comply? Did they forget? You've been rumbled. God bless Rui Pinto. @@trigger793
Relegation to league 2 and stripped of trophies is the bare minimum punishment that should be handed out if they are guilty. Most fraudulent club in football history.
When the charges were revealed, the other clubs should’ve been given the opportunity to not play city, because for more reasons than one it’s not fair on the rest. And the audacity to think they thought/think they could get away with it potentially is beyond arrogance.
massive point deduction 45 points, starting next season, giving the just enough chance to stay up, premier league will love the viewing figures as city fight to stay up, they'll also get a 2 year transfer embargo, maybe huge fine also. they won't be relegated
As a arsenal fan I went to main road in the 1970's l go to Emirates stadium as a silver member l think city and Arsenal lost a bit of themselves when we left Highbury and city left Main road. Football is a business now.
@@samuelkoomson6017 Even if they are found guilty you lot that are all saying "THEY HAVEN'T BEEN FOUND GUILTY" will just switch to "IT'S A KANGEROO COURT" like clockwork. There's no point in even humouring you by pretending we don't all know that they're guilty.
Because the harsh truth is city did nothing wrong. And if you find them guilty you’re gonna have charges against United, Arsenal, spurs and Chelsea soon
35 of them are for City refusing access to their accounts. Why would you refuse access if there was nothing wrong? Surely you'd happily let the investigators in so you could clear your name 🤦♂️
if these stupid ffp rules always stood then jack walker wouldn't have been able to do what he did! why shouldn't all football club owners spend what they like. the status quo don't like it
The club's vote for the rules. If they are not happy with this they should vote to change the rules but they can't then apply that rule change retroactively. If they could every club that has ever won a trophy would be in a mess 😂
@@jamesbennison8984 city made the suggestion of the third and it was agreed. the judge picked by city instantly agreed. no alternative put forward and accepted. neither side is supposed to have any say on who the president of the panel is and the moment they suggested one person he should have instantly been stricken from choice. you don't know what you are talking about
He's just throwing out big words and contradicting himself might please the not so clever but anyone with a degree of knowledge knows different @@gregd3344
@@SuperJeffyJosephCool1122 I wouldn’t need to explain if you’d been objectively watching what he’s been saying over the last few years. He hasn’t levelled a single bit of criticism against City since this whole escapade started and quite frankly there’s been a lot to level. He’s obviously paid off by filthy Arab money.
@@gmtime5439 You need help xDDD hahaha. In Norway people like you get help for free from the goverment, but I know countries outside Scandinavia lets freaks run free. You are insane and need to wake up
@@Phez24 Fantastic grammar skills you have. I'll assume you meant to write 'just like your dad.' And that's a pretty crappy insult at that cus milk vendors make bank. Tragic how you never listened at school.
Liverpool bought the titles with gambling money and United bought the titles with literally buying the referees. Why you sleeping on that? Too stupid to contemplate how things work and just following the narrative 🤡🤡
If they found a genuine loophole somewhere and exploited it 130 times they will get away with it, if not there's no way the premier will be able to let them get away with it.
There can be only one outcome of this case with 115 charges against Manchester City: they are found and proved guilty with numerous points if not all. And the consequent penalty must be according to the crime: a deduction of 120 - 400 points or outright expulsion from the Premier League. Maybe coupled with some titles stripped. Otherwise the Premier League and its commissions have lost all faith in the eyes of the wide football community and are unfit to deal any other FFP and PSR cases.
This guy doesn't have a clue. Gives it the big "I am" Kept banging on about the strength of the case against Chelsea and nothing happened Better off getting analysis from 'dave' down the pub
You realise Chelsea would have been guilty if they didn't sell their hotels. You're correct that he said they had to sell a significant amount unless they wanted to breach the rules. He didn't consider like no-one considered that they would sell hotels to impact PSR.
@@josephkerrigan733 that's my point. You and me might not be aware of that but this geezer lives and breathes this stuff as the expert he should be across the detail
I think every time Jordan is introduced to any one they should follow his ' unequivocal irrefutable undeniable evidence ' barb every time he talks about city with ' I present the failed previous Crystal Palace owner who lost 10,s of millions, Simon Jordan"
As much as i find Stefan Borson annoying at times he does know he stuff simon to some extent also, At least we know where the meeeting is taken place not that it means that much i thought it was 115 charges not 130 but anyway good video
Relegated them and deducted many points off them. They seem to be above any other clubs because they're Premier League Champions and have oil money backing them.
Newcastle has oil money but you don't see them in the same position..the money point is irrelevant man u spend the most money literally every year alot of people hate because how well city do.. but qlot of that is down to doing it the right way they've invested in quality players, scouting, academy, training ground as much as it annoys everyone city have invested in the correct way
The teams that had finished 2nd in the league and lost in the finals in this period of time should be looking for sufficient punishment/compensation/handing title to the that team and take them off city. If they are found guilty.
@Sketch2805Studios it happened to juv to be fair a few years back. They just stripped them of their titles and sent them to the lowest tier. So them years of their titles were null invoid. So yeah if it were the case of city being found guilty and that was the case the titles would be voided I guess
Sometimes a fine is cheaper than dragging out legal challenges for years. City have spent tens of millions on this case and money isn’t an issue for them. Paying a fine to get rid of Uefa is worth it so they can focus on the prem
@@madeinengland9488settlement will likely require prem to admit city had no wrongdoing and they would likely require city to agree not to sue anyone in the league for their past statements. Any future statements would likely be allowed to sue
The most likely outcome is a settlement where city pay the prems legal fees admit to at most not being completely cooperative with the prem while they were investigating and all other charges are found not guilty. It’s the best solution for everyone and it’s not close. Letting this go to a judge decision is a disaster for everyone. If city lose the league is screwed. If city win the league is screwed. The only way to semi survive this for the prem is to settle
@@2299mikey I agree with everything but if we haven’t done this then they have absolutely ruined our reputation mate and that would be bang out of order, on the other hand if we have done all this then we should be relegated for sure and we will do the journey all over again but what ever happens will happen.
No they won because uefa had didn't have sufficient evidence to claim what they were claiming cause they were literally a few charges were time bared but even those UEFA had little to no evidence to provide it cause "lack of evidence" was literally mentioned more than 12 times in the final report
Some of the charges were thrown out because they were time barred. The rest of the charges were thrown out due to insufficient evidence. Go back and read the CAS verdict. The only charge which stood was failure to co-operate.
City's problem is that the numbers speak for themselves. They have splashed cash that they clearly didn't earn in an open fair market. The intertwined relationships are clear for all to see and for the City hierarchy to deny the point and effect of those relationships would be like the PM trying to claim he didn't get clothes and glasses from a donor having written down in a register that he did. The public aren't as stupid as these people think, City's affairs don't pass the sniff test and all the legal shenanigans are distraction.
I suspect that if City are able to clear their name in these rule breaches no one is going to believe that they are innocent. Every one will just assume that City had enough people in their employ who were willing to lie on the stand to clear their names.
This is nothing to do with the FA or the premier league. City is the only big club in sports that’s now owned by Americans that’s left standing. The other one was Chelsea. In the eyes of the American hegemon, no one can own a club and get so big to have a such a large cultural significance and get away with it. It’s not possible. Look at what Man U do, Chelsea Arsenal and Liverpool. They are all American own. By all means buy a club but stay small. Make a tech company but stay small…. TikTok. Look around, you will not find a single entity that’s not American that’s has any cultural influence. Football is about cultural influence
Manchester city might have 115 charges, but United should have 116 for still playing Harry Mcgriefer. That clown has ruined both my fantasy team and my Stake parlays since 2019, we bought him for 80mil and hes now worth 18mil…
U seriously think we would get 18 for him?!
surprised to see so many negative comments about Borson, not only is he clearly a financial expert but he's very well spoken and composed and way more respectful than the majority of people I see in these kinds of discussions.
It's because these people who are criticizing him, want him to say that City be punished without ample defense, that's why these idiots are cursing him
Its because most are dropkicks
When's the court case on Netflix?
▪︎Everybody wants City Relegated
▪︎If PL 115 Accusations wrong
▪︎Everybody to demand PL investigated?😂
After Narcos UEA -
SE1 Oil watering the dessert
SE2 Brown envelopes worldwide
SE3 Verdict behind closed doors
SE4 Money talks
Seeing its not in a court. NEVER
This will be a long, long, long, long process, the verdict will be objected and looked at again
After they get away with it
All this for a 10 point deduction and a pointless fine
They've committed mass fraud, mate. The book will be thrown at them. Annual points deductions, transfer bans and financial penalties are on their way.
...and if Arsenal or Liverpool win the League by 2 points over City, we'll have a team winning the league knowing they really got less points than another team and so this season will always have an asterix beside it unless the team who win the league win by more points then City are deducted, well that's my opinion anyway, kets hope it doesnt get to that 😆
Not if they look at previous league titles where Liverpool finished by one point. We can take solace that Rodri should've been called for handball in the Everton game a few years ago. @@JoeScottish
@@JoeScottishThan all the time City won should be tarnished since they broke the rules to win them
@@JoeScottish YOU made the claim that if a team wins the league under circumstances of having an advantage over other teams that it has an asterisk next to it, I'm applying those same standards. I'm only following your logic
Can you get a finance expert on that didn't used to work for City.
Before all the charges
▪︎Everybody wants City Relegated
▪︎If PL Accusations unproven
▪︎Like UEFA Accusations unproven
▪︎Everybody to demand PL investigated?😂
It's clear as day there's cheating. Stevie wonder could see it
Exactly!
No because they all currently work for man city
Weren’t City already found to have committed a lot of these same charges by UEFA, but because of a loop hole of statute of limitations it was thrown out?
No they were never found guilty, it was the opposite. They were only charged for not cooperating with uefas initial investigation.
@@bluemoon1716 “ in 2020 the club overturned on appeal a two-year UEFA ban from the Champions League for financial irregularities between 2012-2016 “
They were found guilty by UEFA, but won on appeal in the court of arbitration of sport because of a 5 year statute of limitation. I was wondering if any of the charges overlapped.
@@brandonflood5850 uefa claimed guilt and when challenged couldn't prove it. CAS found city innocent and even criticized uefa for their poor case. The timed barred evidence came from a hacker known to tamper with evidence and extortion
@@brandonflood5850 uefa claimed guilt and when challenged they couldn't prove it. CAS found city innocent and even criticized uefa for the poor case. The time barred evidence came from a hacker known to tamper with evidence and is guilty of extortion.
@@bluemoon1716 UEFA is a governing body and did find them guilty. The 3 judge panel of CAS voted 2-1 to overturn the case. CAS themselves stated, “The Cas judgment makes no suggestion of bias, and that Uefa by no means filed frivolous charges against MCFC. As also acknowledged by MCFC, there was a legitimate basis to prosecute MCFC.”
STEFAN BORSON STILL WORKS FOR CITY GROUP ITS SO OBVIOUS HES THERE FOR MEDIA NARRATIVE CONTROL
did you know that the same people that own city paid 20,000 pounds each to micheal oliver and 4 other premier league referees to referee in dubai ..
35 of the charges are for City not cooperating with league investigations. Why would you refuse access to your accounts if there was nothing wrong? Surely you would happily let the investigators in to clear your name if you were innocent 🤦♂️🤡
If the police turn up and ask to search your house so they can work out how to screw you on something do you let them or tell them to go away and do it the proper way and prove you did something in a court of law with independent judges?
@@NordicMeatShield cry me a river. you are blabbering because the team you support has been found out for cheating. the agreement to play in the league is that investigators can come in and check your accounts when ever they like.
you absolute moron
If it was so obvious that they hadn’t cooperated why didn’t they charge them after 1 time of failing to cooperate? What’s probably happened is the prem have asked city to supply details leaked in the German paper and city said it doesn’t exist so we can’t and therefore they have failed to cooperate
@@billance48 you mean the files Football Leaks hacker Rui Pinto has been charged and gone to prison for knowing he's proud of exposing them. those files?
@@billance48 you clearly don't understand the charges.
ill explain (CAPS for investigators)
WE WANT TO SEE ACCOUNT 13/14
no
WE WANT TO SEE ACCOUNT 14/15
no
that's 2 charges - right there
then when actually going through the charges after being access to the files Rui Pinto hacked from their accounts (which he's in prison for) and found out why City said no.
what did everton and forest get punishment wise and how many points did they have again?
Due to his links with City, will Stefan Borson be called as a witness? if so then should he be giving his potentially biased opinions.
His links with city are from before the major financial takeover.. way before the timeframe of these charges.. idiotic
He was employed I think up to 2007 by man City. The take over was 2008. He could potentially have advised on the takeover? As it is Man City then we will never know one way or the other
If we assume that he is set to be a witness, and he gives biased opinions in the media, those biased opinions can be used to impeach him in court. The logical entailment is it would then make him less likely to be a witness if he is much easier to discredit
@@AAA-ws9so you’re an idiot. He had nothing to do with the takeover. He was only linked to the club when it was owned by the Thai businessman
You don’t think he is being paid to give this opinions?
Simon Jordan's final point sums it up best. Nobody who claims to have irrefutable evidence they are innocent would want their name dragged through the mud this long. Why would an innocent club be so obstructive and not try to clear its name a few years ago? It makes no sense. City have been rumbled and they don't like it.
Because this case is complicated, unlike you being a simpleton.
How would it have tried to clear its name though? Surely the court hearings are the perfect place to display this evidence. It’s a legal battle. If City released all their evidence into the public then it may mess with the legal proceedings. That’s just common in civil disputes..
@@trigger793they refused to hand over evidence to the PL so many times, sounds very complicated indeed.
Yep. Alot of fans are being so obtuse about all of this. City would have handed over evidence to PL like any other club does, instead of refusing to do so so many times and dragging on the case.
MASSIVE bite from a Bertie blue nose. The biggest cheats in English football history. 35 charges relate to you not complying with the PL investigation. Why didn't City comply? Did they forget? You've been rumbled. God bless Rui Pinto. @@trigger793
International Dispute Resolution Center sounds like a nonsense shell company that would sponsor City for 5000% above market value 😂
How can someone talk 10 mins and absolutely say nothing
Boringson take a rest you are not financial expert
He was working at City during the time that some of these charges cover.
He has a vested interest in his work not being found to be unethical.
Have you not ever listened to the 13:00-16:00 show?
That's what all financial experts are, expert wafflers.
@@yt.personal.identification no he didn’t he worked for city under the Thaksin Shinawatra ownership. Stop lying!
@@yt.personal.identification sorry but thats not true
This diddy guy seems like a real jerk
Agree, Jordan is a real jerk
😂😂😂
The Hunter has become the hunted . Is it all over for the premier league?
▪︎USA Owners Clubs Conspired S.League
▪︎City collapsed Super League
▪︎PL don't investigate USA Owners Clubs,but City
▪︎PL - Clean or Corrupt?
If these charges are proven to be false the premier league will be in a lot of legal trouble, Richard Masters will have to go to start with
Relegation to league 2 and stripped of trophies is the bare minimum punishment that should be handed out if they are guilty. Most fraudulent club in football history.
OK we hear judge Judy 😂😂
@@khanyadyan2961judge roy beab
not gonna happen, cry more
What should happen to a club which violates 130 rules?
@@tomwaitsmencsewhat’s your point
As a Liverpool fan there innocent till proven guilty
A civil case such as this doesn't work that way.. you're thinking about a criminal case.
As an Everton fan they’re innocent until they buy their innocence…
It is self evident that they have cheated.
When the charges were revealed, the other clubs should’ve been given the opportunity to not play city, because for more reasons than one it’s not fair on the rest. And the audacity to think they thought/think they could get away with it potentially is beyond arrogance.
massive point deduction 45 points, starting next season, giving the just enough chance to stay up, premier league will love the viewing figures as city fight to stay up, they'll also get a 2 year transfer embargo, maybe huge fine also. they won't be relegated
As a arsenal fan I went to main road in the 1970's l go to Emirates stadium as a silver member l think city and Arsenal lost a bit of themselves when we left Highbury and city left Main road. Football is a business now.
Yes Maine Road was a fine ground up to the late 80s before the Taylor Report
Your not wrong 👍
@@linimcfc715seen many a relegation on that ground ay mate
@@singerpour6946obsessed with us are you 😂
@singerpour6946 you can say that again lol
Why is Borson always defending City?
He has worked for them and supports them
Why are you and the media always against City though they have not been found guilty?
@@samuelkoomson6017 That was a bit presumptive of you... why are you so defensive? It seems like you're projecting onto my earnest question
@@samuelkoomson6017 Even if they are found guilty you lot that are all saying "THEY HAVEN'T BEEN FOUND GUILTY" will just switch to "IT'S A KANGEROO COURT" like clockwork. There's no point in even humouring you by pretending we don't all know that they're guilty.
Because the harsh truth is city did nothing wrong. And if you find them guilty you’re gonna have charges against United, Arsenal, spurs and Chelsea soon
Regardless of the outcome there will be appeals and potentially other clubs making claims for compensation. This could continue to drag on for years.
It's behind closed doors to give city a chance to do a deal and it will all be forgotten about.
@@redjacc7581 hope your right
I love listening to this stephen guy
I think if these charges are proven to be false the premier league will be in a lot of legal trouble
Wow. This is an expert, illuminating us. Once again, he says nothing. Lots of lawyers. Really? Thanks.
The coverage of this cover up has been ridiculously anonymous. You'd think it was Israel that owned Man City
Fine them millions and put them in the championship
Bitter and twisted saddos
@@colinthomastaylor7329proper fans want the competition to be on the pitch not behind the scenes by cooking books.
So many experts on here it's untrue, but most don't have a clue what our alleged charges are😂
"Our" haha
Yes our, I've been watching City for 54 years😉
Pretending to have more fans than Liverpool , is the charge basically
*months
35 of them are for City refusing access to their accounts. Why would you refuse access if there was nothing wrong? Surely you'd happily let the investigators in so you could clear your name 🤦♂️
if these stupid ffp rules always stood then jack walker wouldn't have been able to do what he did! why shouldn't all football club owners spend what they like. the status quo don't like it
Not true at all.
Jack Walker was a local businessman who stuck a few million into his local club.
Stefan Borson. The Housewives favourite.
What’s that supposed to mean
You're getting him mixed up with Lester Piggott.
thats is being held in secret, is a complete joke!! the public deserve to know what is going on!!
why you would not have a clue what they were talking about do you work
No - it isn't... it's the process that every team in the Premier League voted for.
The club's vote for the rules. If they are not happy with this they should vote to change the rules but they can't then apply that rule change retroactively. If they could every club that has ever won a trophy would be in a mess 😂
I was falling asleep after this 10 minute synopsis, I certainly couldnt to watch a 3 month hearing
well lets see how it pans out for man city
The CAS board was 3 people, 2 people were of appointment by City themselves. A lot is being ignored.
The CAS board was 3 independent people, of which both UEFA and city deemed independent.
incorrect. City put one forward UEFA put one forward and the other was mutually agreed
@@jamesbennison8984 city made the suggestion of the third and it was agreed. the judge picked by city instantly agreed. no alternative put forward and accepted. neither side is supposed to have any say on who the president of the panel is and the moment they suggested one person he should have instantly been stricken from choice. you don't know what you are talking about
@@matthewbaker2573 UEFA agreed to the chair put forward. They could have rejected them if they had any concerns but didn't.
@@jamesbennison8984 not could have, should have
i suggest you do a bit of research on CAS website before making yourself look even more silly
In the CAS case City’s witnesses did not “give unequivocal evidence that they did not do what was alleged”.. that was not the decision by CAS.
Deduct a point for each charge proven.
Simon is making the most sense here
Obviously cause his speaking basic English 🤦🏿♂️
No he isn't
@@Cyrus-rodn45 yes , he is
He's just throwing out big words and contradicting himself might please the not so clever but anyone with a degree of knowledge knows different @@gregd3344
Translation: Simon's saying things I want to hear!
Simon had Stefan in the palm of his hands in this debate.
Stefan Borson, Man City mouthpiece extraordinaire
How is he explain
@@SuperJeffyJosephCool1122 I wouldn’t need to explain if you’d been objectively watching what he’s been saying over the last few years. He hasn’t levelled a single bit of criticism against City since this whole escapade started and quite frankly there’s been a lot to level. He’s obviously paid off by filthy Arab money.
@@gmtime5439 You need help xDDD hahaha. In Norway people like you get help for free from the goverment, but I know countries outside Scandinavia lets freaks run free. You are insane and need to wake up
Basically, they don’t know anything yet
Exactly.. getting tired of watching Simon blab
"What's your job?"
"I'm a finance expert"
???
very simple, its his job, just your dad, the milkman. dairy expert.
@@Phez24 Fantastic grammar skills you have. I'll assume you meant to write 'just like your dad.' And that's a pretty crappy insult at that cus milk vendors make bank. Tragic how you never listened at school.
Heinous? Wow, where are the bodies buried. Little bit of hyperbole there.
Simon knows city will win this. He's now trying to create narratives around the case being swept under the carpet and City winning on a technicality.
At 3.00, who classifies staff as “junior juniors” and “senior juniors”? Create better job titles! 😂
These people are so successful they don't need job titles.
Plus, the company does it deliberately to make them work harder.
If City get away with this then that will be the last bit of credibility in football out the window.
Yep, yet we will still continue to watch it so why we moaning
Liverpool bought the titles with gambling money and United bought the titles with literally buying the referees. Why you sleeping on that? Too stupid to contemplate how things work and just following the narrative 🤡🤡
You must of seen all the paper work then?
@bluemoon7886 they are guilty ,of not why did they not cooperate?
If they found a genuine loophole somewhere and exploited it 130 times they will get away with it, if not there's no way the premier will be able to let them get away with it.
Parker from Thunderbirds is back.
There can be only one outcome of this case with 115 charges against Manchester City: they are found and proved guilty with numerous points if not all.
And the consequent penalty must be according to the crime: a deduction of 120 - 400 points or outright expulsion from the Premier League. Maybe coupled with some titles stripped.
Otherwise the Premier League and its commissions have lost all faith in the eyes of the wide football community and are unfit to deal any other FFP and PSR cases.
I admire how football journalists call this the football case of the century while not even gettting the basic facts about it right, eg 115
This guy doesn't have a clue. Gives it the big "I am"
Kept banging on about the strength of the case against Chelsea and nothing happened
Better off getting analysis from 'dave' down the pub
Dave ? Don’t you mean Rodney ?
@@CarloTurner-vl7rl could be anyone mate. This geezer offers nothing what you and I could work out
@@LordOishi Agreed M8 👍 .
You realise Chelsea would have been guilty if they didn't sell their hotels. You're correct that he said they had to sell a significant amount unless they wanted to breach the rules. He didn't consider like no-one considered that they would sell hotels to impact PSR.
@@josephkerrigan733 that's my point. You and me might not be aware of that but this geezer lives and breathes this stuff as the expert he should be across the detail
Meeting Martin and John 7pm.
All the youtube lawyers are back in the comments 😂😂
Simon cant handle someone who doesn't have an Anti-City narrative and agenda 😂
Premier league is almost unwatchable now with the terrible refs and Super cheats like city.
I stopped my tnt and sky package footballs finished
Won’t be long before the euros and World Cup are ppv
And females running the show !!
@@TommyRobinson-u1m ...... same 👍...........
White's childish glee when his mate turns up is nauseating.
Why are you giving this guy the platform to gaslight us.
How stupid are you?
Big question is, why's Stefan took this Stone island badge off ?
Leicester withheld evidence to the football league. And looked what happened. Nothing
130 charges, gotta laugh
Built by the fans not the media Simon.
Kick them out of the league
No surprise that one of them sticks to the facts while Simon Jordan opts for the wishful thinking route.
I think every time Jordan is introduced to any one they should follow his ' unequivocal irrefutable undeniable evidence ' barb every time he talks about city with ' I present the failed previous Crystal Palace owner who lost 10,s of millions, Simon Jordan"
He may cry if anyone says it’s city possibly doing wrongdoing
Surley borson should be a witness
As much as i find Stefan Borson annoying at times he does know he stuff simon to some extent also, At least we know where the meeeting is taken place not that it means that much i thought it was 115 charges not 130 but anyway good video
Relegated them and deducted many points off them. They seem to be above any other clubs because they're Premier League Champions and have oil money backing them.
Newcastle has oil money but you don't see them in the same position..the money point is irrelevant man u spend the most money literally every year alot of people hate because how well city do.. but qlot of that is down to doing it the right way they've invested in quality players, scouting, academy, training ground as much as it annoys everyone city have invested in the correct way
They have already said City wont be relegated. How could they do that.
@@ShaunBradley-xx3qdThey have only just got oil owners. Which the Prem have their eyes on. They dont like Oil owners
Newcastle and Arsenal have "oil money" do you want them kicking out as well. I guarantee you do not know details of what City have been accused of
@@jamesbennison8984 your going on like they fucked your mum😂
The teams that had finished 2nd in the league and lost in the finals in this period of time should be looking for sufficient punishment/compensation/handing title to the that team and take them off city. If they are found guilty.
They should absolutely be retrospectively awarded those trophies, stripped away from 130 City.
😂 you guys are delusional
No one wants a second hand title just strip them
@Sketch2805Studios it happened to juv to be fair a few years back. They just stripped them of their titles and sent them to the lowest tier. So them years of their titles were null invoid. So yeah if it were the case of city being found guilty and that was the case the titles would be voided I guess
Why do snowflakes not like dad jokes
City denied everything after their European ban. But paid the fine after it was overturned.
Sometimes a fine is cheaper than dragging out legal challenges for years. City have spent tens of millions on this case and money isn’t an issue for them. Paying a fine to get rid of Uefa is worth it so they can focus on the prem
@@2299mikeySo let them pay their way out of it again and basically ruin our beautiful game?
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Sir Jordanite = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
So if city settle with the premier league, what happens next?
Don’t know but if we win the case we should definitely be suing
@@madeinengland9488What do you think should happen if you lose?
@@madeinengland9488settlement will likely require prem to admit city had no wrongdoing and they would likely require city to agree not to sue anyone in the league for their past statements. Any future statements would likely be allowed to sue
The most likely outcome is a settlement where city pay the prems legal fees admit to at most not being completely cooperative with the prem while they were investigating and all other charges are found not guilty. It’s the best solution for everyone and it’s not close. Letting this go to a judge decision is a disaster for everyone. If city lose the league is screwed. If city win the league is screwed. The only way to semi survive this for the prem is to settle
@@2299mikey I agree with everything but if we haven’t done this then they have absolutely ruined our reputation mate and that would be bang out of order, on the other hand if we have done all this then we should be relegated for sure and we will do the journey all over again but what ever happens will happen.
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I couldnt take anything from what Boringson said and he spoke for so long
Rodri will be back in time to play Halifax
You should all leave this comment on 115 likes because it never gets old.
👍 115
Bro liked his own comment
@@nathann-yg4bm Cheers for liking the comment 'Bro' 👍
City won at CAS because the charges were time barred, not because they proved their case.
No they won because uefa had didn't have sufficient evidence to claim what they were claiming cause they were literally a few charges were time bared but even those UEFA had little to no evidence to provide it cause "lack of evidence" was literally mentioned more than 12 times in the final report
Some of the charges were thrown out because they were time barred.
The rest of the charges were thrown out due to insufficient evidence.
Go back and read the CAS verdict.
The only charge which stood was failure to co-operate.
City's problem is that the numbers speak for themselves. They have splashed cash that they clearly didn't earn in an open fair market. The intertwined relationships are clear for all to see and for the City hierarchy to deny the point and effect of those relationships would be like the PM trying to claim he didn't get clothes and glasses from a donor having written down in a register that he did. The public aren't as stupid as these people think, City's affairs don't pass the sniff test and all the legal shenanigans are distraction.
Stefan is brilliant.
Borson is nothing more than a Man City PR spin doctor.
Stefan Borson just bodied Simon 😂😂😂😂😂😂City is winning this all day long 🎉🎉🎉
Be quiet Skid
Simon looking even more than usual like Bunsen Honeydew here
So its the prem league with the expensive army of lawyers
Has the hapless Premier League thrown the towel in yet?
You are going down
@@kempos81 Don’t think so soft lad.
@@robertmclellan3658 yes you are
@@shemwonders7974 You any proof or evidence of wrongdoing? Because the hapless Premier League hasn’t.
Michael Oliver gave City a stern talking to and it's their last warning. Case closed
Stefan Borson is Martin O’Neil’s love child
" we wanna move on " but people are asking us to to tell you what is going on lol yeh alright jim. you been on that Jim Beam again or what lad?
I think everyone forgets That Uefa also found them guilty but the statute of limitations had already passed. No such luck with the PL
Coming from the lad that said Chelsea r breaching FFP, nd the lad that put City into da muck. Spare me,
It’s now just 3 main charges I’m hearing.. city already won
I suspect that if City are able to clear their name in these rule breaches no one is going to believe that they are innocent. Every one will just assume that City had enough people in their employ who were willing to lie on the stand to clear their names.
City vs Mourinho's Roma at the Etihad was a good match 👍👏
City didn’t win based on evidence
They lost but won based on a time bar ..
City fans know that nothing will happen because if they do anything it will be the end of the premiership
All these know it alls lol , and with so much passion, really could all of you sit on this panel with a neutral view lmao 😂😂😂😂
Cheaty apologist is back on the case.
This is nothing to do with the FA or the premier league. City is the only big club in sports that’s now owned by Americans that’s left standing. The other one was Chelsea. In the eyes of the American hegemon, no one can own a club and get so big to have a such a large cultural significance and get away with it. It’s not possible. Look at what Man U do, Chelsea Arsenal and Liverpool. They are all American own. By all means buy a club but stay small. Make a tech company but stay small…. TikTok. Look around, you will not find a single entity that’s not American that’s has any cultural influence. Football is about cultural influence
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So glad it’s not my team Arsenal
More fans should boycott the prem. Support your local.
Stefan looks like Mr. Bean