3 WAYS TO TEST FOR A ROTATOR CUFF TEAR | OBTS
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- Learn about the 3 ways to test for a rotator cuff tear from Dr. Arlan Alburo of Orthopedic & Balance Therapy Specialists.
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I failed all 3. I also failed the 4th test when my Dr told me I had a torn rotator cuff.
What happen from there?
@@evancarmello9226 My Dr recommended surgery. I did not want to do surgery so he had me perform a ton or rehab exercises. I couldn't really lift my arm for about 2 weeks. Even then it took about 2-3 months for me to regain normal mobility. This entire time I had pain in my shoulder. After about 6-7 months I started trying to do light workouts. I felt a small pain in my shoulder up until about 9 months. I will say at this point I don't feel any pain and use my shoulder like normal. Although, I don't think it's 100% or ever will be 100%. Maybe like 92-95%. I used to box but after my injury I can't seem to throw a jab for to many rounds without causing pain to my shoulder. Other than that I am able to use it for daily tasks and other activities with no problem.
Well you passed the sense of humor test 😂
But you succeeded in making me laugh. Well played Pedro. 👏👏👏
Oh thank God. I passed all three
Me, too!
unfortunatly not me completly
oh god same here, i passed all three and nothing to do with my rotator cuff, the relieve, i can share that with you my friend
Same bro I messed my shoulder up lifting took three ibuprofen and pitched 6 innings. Definitely not gonna throw for 2 weeks. Hope it stops making cracking and fluid noises now lol
@@tylerking6422 how you feelin now?
I have a rotator cuff tear and failed all three tests. Seems accurate 👌
What an amazing service! This gentleman is a model for those desiring a career in the medical field.
😂
So appreciative of the video. About 7 yrs ago I failed the third test and had right shldr rotator cuff repair. Then about 5 months ago, my left shoulder started up but not the same way. The video’s second test (45 deg thumb down etc.) confirmed my suspicions. As a result, now getting a workup for repair with the same surgeon of 7 yrs ago. Things wear out over 7 decades.
Awesome video. To the point and explained professionally. Thank you.
I passed all tests but had slight pain in the outside of my upper arm after, I fell and broke my collarbone 3 days ago so I'm praying I just stretched a muscle
Thank you for the very helpful information doc! You mentioned the free 15 min consultation and I considered calling but then realized this was RUclips and you could be located anywhere! Turns out you are just a stones throw from my original hometown of Michigan City, IN... way cool. I live in Kansas now so not going to call but thanks for the quick test and short stroll down memory lane... Laporte, Valpo, MC, good memories.
On 2021, Thanksgiving day, I accidentally stepped in a metal dog food bowl, and I fractured my right ankle. When I fell, I landed on my left shoulder, and I've been living with pain ever since. After watching your video, I now know why I'm having a lot of pain when I put my pants on, grabbing the seat belt or scratching my back. Thank you for your video!!
I broke my elbow....ALSO because of a Dog lol. My own! Innocent walking him.
Very helpful! Clear and concise. Thank you!
What a relief, all 3 tests seem fine. I am thinking it’s a pinched nerve. Excellent video -thank you for doing such great work on it.
My pain and weakness is lower from the shoulder, but still in the area thingy. Kinda. But no pain during tests. I seemed to have hurt it over time, doing heavy triceps with a pulley. So ya, not up to my shoulder, but lower. Any idea ?
Thank you! I’m going to get in touch with you very soon!
Thank-you for the video. Very useful.
Thank you for this information! I am unable to test my shoulder at this time. I will be watching this again and checking my shoulder.
This was very helpful. Thank you so much.
Excellent presentation.
Oh thank goodness, I passed all three tests! I hurt my shoulder yesterday and it still hurts quite a bit, but I could do all these things. I think I just strained a muscle. Thank you for this video, it really helped me get peace of mind! (However, I know the tests aren't conclusive so I'll continue keeping an eye on my shoulder until it's better).
fucking hell same, i thought that the dips i overdid gave me a rotator cuff tear (it's been hurting like a bitch for the past 2days)
Same
My motorcycle fell and I used left arm to stop / slow it from crashing to ground and now my shoulder is painful through some motions… but I can do these exercises 🙏🏼
Thank you for these easy tests.
Thank you I passed but barely so I am resting it and not belly dancing as I already have a mild spinal cord injury and have to say I live in chronic pain but this shoulder pain has taken me DOWN. I am healing this now
Thank you for sharing this. This is very helpful.
Passed all the tests with ease so this is giving me some hope but my shoulder is clicking a lot when I lift my arm above my head and I feel discomfort in my shoulder when I do other motions sometimes.
I saw some comments from other people that didn't pass these tests. I wish them the best and to look forward to their recovery. The more focused u r on physical therapy and everything the doctors tell u to do, the faster u get better. Don't let anyone tell u "u can't do it." Listening to them will only hurt u.
Hey,
I'm in the same situation as you are. I passed these tests, but shoulder keeps popping. How are you doing, did you resolve your issue or found out what the problem was?
Andreas Barstad my shoulder's been a little awkward but it doesn't click as much or hurt anymore. Kinda had to step back from workouts for a bit. It sorta stopped after a week and a half. I can do push-ups normally now and chin-ups. If it persists beyond 2 weeks, definitely call ur physician up for a referral to an orthopedic.
@@animangafan342 update please
It‘s probably related to a dysbalance in your front delt and rear delt, as well as chest muscle and lower trapezius. If you don‘t have optimal posture, focus on training low traps as well as rear delts and rotator cuff (face pulls) to strengthen external rotation. This will pull your shoulders back and down over time, and help with cracking, mobility and tendon health
@@asura1877take my like thank you!
Great video. Thanks
I couldnt do any of those movements without pain. Been painful going on 3 months now. Wearing a shoulder brace feel much better. May have to see my doctor. Thank you for your help!
I have shoulder pain too,
but thanks God,
I passed these three tests!
thanq so much Dr only because of you I come to know that m having this injury
The first time I have ever seen this doctor and I'm totally in love such a calm demeanor. I wish you were nearby in Houston Texas you would be my doctor
What does it mean if I had a slight pain for the first one and second one??
I had serious pain both sides for years just folding my arms was extremely painful. I tried stretching and exercise that helped a little but the best for me is the speed bag. Now I'm easing a little into weight lifting.
The first 2 were not bad, but the behind the back had soreness. I was confirmed rotater cuff tear with an MRI. I been living with mild to moderate pain for years. I still lift at the gym. My affected shoulder has about 85 percent strength compared to my other. I may finally get that surgery
Excellent knowledge and resource. The third test got me, moving my hand away from the lower back is possible, but causes pain.
My symptoms are exactly as you describe. I’ve tried to get a MRI scan but they said I have to have a ultra sound scan first. Will this scan show up a tear ?
I’m 50 years old and very active in the gym. I did a 5000 pull up challenge about 5 months ago and I haven’t recovered from it since. I have lost shoulder strength on side and front raises. I have very limited cross body movement without having sever pain. I also get a fiery feeling running down my arm with any cross body motion. I’ve had a few cortisone injection many years ago but so far I haven’t been able to recover from this injury.
I have learned that as we age, the muscle strength may be there but the other parts like tendons and ligaments that accompany the muscle, may not be able to hold up their side.
How many did you get to
I’m 76 and I lifted a heavy plant pot about 2 weeks ago and I’m in severe pain in both shoulders and down my arms,I’m also waiting endlessly for 2 shoulder replacements
@@juicepaid1614 he's joking
@@Ihfmpw8 any better?
This is so informative. I have had severe neck and shoulder pain for the past year.
I had an epidural in my neck recently and it didn't last but a few days.
The doctor assumed my shoulder pain was directly related to my neck pain.
I had a follow up and let him know that I can no longer sleep due to my shoulder pain.
I can't sleep on the opposite side either, because it feels like someone is pulling my arm out of the socket.
He did a few of the tests that are in this video and I couldn't follow through on any of these.
The only different test he did was to have me lift my arm straight up and I can do that.
I'm seeing an orthopedic doctor on Monday, and until then I just can't sleep.
I really wish I would have seen this earlier because it really helped me realize I definitely have something wrong with my rotator cuff.
Very appreciative of good caring doctors ❤
I too can pass these three tests but cannot lift my arm up straight in front of me or up toward the ceiling I heard it a week ago and I I'm not able to work my job so I will give it this week and maybe next week hopefully the doctor will give me some physical therapy maybe it's not a total cuff tear
Thanks for the quickie diagnostic. I'm able to do all the motions and while it clicks and hurts a little, it's not severe. Just enough that my arm is saying "hey maybe don't do that right now." I'll give that arm a rest for a week and see if I've got improvement, and if not it's time to talk to my old physio again (last time it was a frozen trapezoid on that same arm. Doh.)
Ill do the 3 step n I feel hurt when I doing that and I cannot sleep when is urys too much do u think I have rotator cuff Ter tnx a lot
Great video easy to understand
These tests actually felt good.
Thank you for for the knowledge. I have a question. I have a real bad pain in my shoulder my thumb is numb I can move my arm perfectly fine but is weak and it hurts the pain worsens at night and I have disrupted sleep. I'm going on my 4th week with this pain.
Thank you for sharing
Thank you SO much for sharing this video. I’ve been struggling with a shoulder injury for a while and this video has helped me (hopefully) diagnose the problem. Question: with test 3, lifting the hand above the lower back, which particular rotator cuff muscles are responsible for this movement? I couldn’t lift my right hand at all. No pain, but no movement at all.
It’s probably flexibility affecting that. As long as you’re putting effort through the muscles and not feeling pain, you should* be good.
@@showalterlifts2020 I’m (slightly) hyper mobile, athletic and very flexible, so that wasn’t the issue, but thank you for your input :) The loss of strength in the subscapularis muscle has now been confirmed by further physio tests and is (likely) caused by thoracic outlet syndrome.
I can move my arm in all direction very well but with mascular type pain in my shoulder and upper arm above elbow. Is it a rotator cuff tear? Should I go for an MRI?
My right shoulder was ached and i feel that mybackn chest is achingt too do it think I have a rotator cuff ter
Hello Dr. I just watched your video on torn rotator cuff. My opinion I failed test 1and 3. It’s been over 5-6 days I’ve had pain in my shoulder now
I DID NOT PASS ANY OF YOUR TESTS I BEEN LIFTING 10 POUND DUMBELLS 1 ARM AT A TIME THEN THOUGHT I CAN DO BOTH ARMS BUT AS A COUPLE DAYS WENT BY I COULDENT LIFT MY RIGHT ARM WITH ALL THE PAIN FROM MY SHOULDER TO MY ELBOW .CAN I GET A 15 MIN SESSION WITH YOU .THANK YOU .
Hello Dr Alburo, I tried the test and I passed but i still have pain to left shoulder down to arm. I have clicking sound in my left shoulder. I have recently had LSI to the bursa and hoping it will help. My question is what would this clicking be? Thank you for your time. Jennah
I had a mri and it shows a severe torn rotator cuff but I’ve been going to physical therapy and it’s getting better but still hurts when I lift my arm and can’t go back down slowly without a lot of pain , so doi need to have surgery or will it get better with more physical therapy? I really don’t want to get surgery
I was using an auger and it pulled my right arm to the left sharply and tried these and no pain just feels sore. But it hurts bad when I sit on the ground and try to push up and slide backwards. Or raise my arm to wash my upper back.
Good presentation 👌
I think I have a frozen shoulder which is different ! Do you have any exercises for that?
Hello doctor sir what is your take on stem cell injection and prp doing both in my shoulder in 2 days I do have a bad shoulder tear
hi... i have slight pain only on the first test. i did find your video because i am having pain on my shoulder joint sometimes. ..but pain normally would be at the shoulder blade or arm muscles. My shoulder had quite heavy duty strain for 8 years until 2015. Where actually is the key problem then?
i cant do the 3rd test well experiencing abit of pain doing that :( i suspect a rotator cuff tear hurts alot when i sleep also even not on the injured side.
i got shoulder dislocate left hand ... after surger my right hand soulder paining why ? pain se vry high stress in mass like
I felt pain only in the first one but the other two were ok. What would that mean?
i have tht pain due too exercise wht should do
Hi, I been having lots of pain on my right side then my left side. The pain is strange, is pain on the back of my right side on the top, also pain on my right arm joints, and my chest feels like tight. Neck hurts, and down on my right side on the side it hurts. I don't know what to make out of this. What cdo you think that it could be.
I can't lift my should up and back ward without it completely over lapping that the one direction. I know longer have control of that arm and when the moment happens it sounds like flesh tearing or pulling apart. Very painful may require surgery but who do i look for and who's help do i ask for?
I heard my shoulder pop in April and didn’t think anything of it but I feel discomfort on my shoulder now should I be in worry?
I have moderate to severe just thinking about trying any of these tests. Going for MRI this afternoon.
I had pain in the first one and a little weakness in the other 2. Can my muscles just be strained but not tore?
Thanks my injury l arm is from playing pickleball every day for hours. Injury not severe but feel constant ache in center rotator cuff joint … now in 6th day of rest and doing stretches and sliding arm up a wall. Thx for your video !!!
I only failed the first one but can do #2 & #3? Does that mean mine can heal on its own bc it’s not that bad?
I fell off a ladder about 3 feet up and landed on my left shoulder. If I lay flat on my back with my arms at my sides, I cannot pick up my left arm. What kind of injury did I sustain?
It hurts when I throw a football and has been hurting for 9 months man what do I do? Any thoughts
Thank very kind caring man.
I have all these problems,I had a accident on 22april22,it's 2.5 months,still I have the same issues as highlighted. What can I do heal my left shoulder. Please advice.
thank god i passed all three tests, i can feel slight discomfort and a bit of dull pain,but nothing major.Do you think that like 2 weeks of rest will be enough to heal it?
In the 3rd step, i heard a crack in my shoulder, and I'm now feeling better, and i can stretch my left arms to my to my opposite shoulder blade. Thank you
Thank you I have not got it. That helps
If u are using your left arm for the test u should feel it in ur left rotator cuff right? Im testing with my left arm and dont really feel a pain in my left but when i test with my right i feel the pain in my left
And I thought my broken leg was the only issue I had after my accident.. -_-. Could you tear / injure this from walking on crutches? I did put a lot of pressure on my arms during those months
I can do number 1&2, but have pain with the third test. So what does that mean?
I have a previous pectoralus major rupture in the same shoulder I just injured again. It is too painful and weak to make a single one of these movements. I'm guessing that's probably a sign I should go back to my surgeon...?
would you please mention what were the name of these 3 tests please?
My shoulder been killing me for like 5-6 days and when I go to sleep I wake up to to my shoulder feeling like it being stabbed. Over and over until I wake up for the day. But I passed all the tests in the video. So does a strained muscle last this long??
Yeah I can't do any of these. I tore my RC in 2003 surgery in 2004 and then on Thursday i messed it up walking down my steps. im 99% sure i retore it. waiting for an MRI to be scheduled. :( im in agony
What does it mean if you really can’t even lift it with these motions and it aches constantly unless it is down.
Excellent❤
Sir, I had fractured my proximal humerous and conservative treatment going on, so when I will be able to perform these tests.
Great 2/3. IM DYING 🤠
Thanks for being brief & direct. I didn't pass any of them. Now what? Is surgery the only answer? I really struggle doing my job.
The 3rd test I could do fairly easily but there was pain. Is that bad?
I feel like I might have torn my tendon last year but my crappy dr didn't do anything except an xray...when I had total loss of mobility in my left shoulder. It was a yr @ end of February & finally got into physical therapy in which they said they think cuff impingement but I had difficulty & pain doing the examples in this video.
Awaiting a MRI approval to after my physical therapy is complete.
Worried I tore my tendon & no one handled it properly...just got a new Dr. this year & trying to figure what happened to my shoulder.
Any thoughts or suggestions would help??
I do calisthenics and yesterday I tied 45 pounds around my waist and did a 1 minute flag pole when I came down after finishing I felt fine got home work up and my shoulder feels like it’s genuinely broken but I can fully move it and I passed all the tests I’m so confused like I wake up and my shoulder is just in absolute pain but then after 5 minutes of moving it I feel fully fine I can curl 70 pounds still and it works fine I’m going to take a few days off from the gym I’m so confused as to what’s wrong with it
What if you can do them it’s just painful ? The first two weren’t too bad the last test was very painful but I felt it in my tricep area too
I fell a few years ago landing on my hands but all my weight pushed my shoulder upward
When I did the first test with thumbs Down my shoulder popped and I was in severe pain
I usually do stretching exercises when it hurts and eventually it stop hurting after few days
I wonder if I should at least get it X-rayed to see exactly what’s going on
Thank you
I’m here because my bedside lamp switch was behind me and I wrenched my shoulder turning it off/on. Bugger it!
I saw my Dr who said this is what she suspects and booked me in for an ultrasound. I hope it’s a strain and not a tear.
I have 1 of this but not severe pain ...so is that mean I have a small tear that doesn't take long to heal ?
I tore my infraspinatuse muscle an my rotator cuff an idk what I’m supposed to do to treat it because I can take no days off work
Please tell me you still do free phone consultations because I can't do any of these.
I only have an issue with the third test. I can raise my arm, but after a certain point (reaching the max), it starts to hurt just a little bit.
I’m confused. I did all your steps, the one behind the back-east. The one where I’m suppose to go lateral and elevate and drop…elevation is not an option. So what does that mean?
Number 2 I can't even lift my arm. Seen physio today he's confident I've got a tear
OMG same here. I guess I have to get it checked out.
If U need rotator cuff surgery, make sure U listen to everything accurately that Ur Dr tells U to do & especially what not to do. U can only have surgery ONCE on a rotator cuff & then it will be the best it will be. Good Luck
This helped me so much. Thank you for making this video.
I'm experiencing this type of pain what do I do next?
I have an tear in my shoulder as pr my MRI report it's 50% damage at the first dr consult me for physiotherapy but now my pain is getting unbearable should I have to proceed for surgery ????
It is possible that i have a rotator cuff tear my back shoulder experience pain but it come and go. sometimes i experience the pain sometimes not.
The first test when I elevate my left hand i feel a lil discomfort on my shoulder since I started to have a clicking shoulder and a lil pain since JULY 17, however i can resist it from pushing down with the use of my right arm. I have no problem with the 2nd and 3rd test btw.
Hi my shoulder has been bothering me for a while now went to the doctor they did x-rays nothing was torn no bruise but I still have pain he said he seen arthritis in the shoulder gave me a shot that help a lot but when go into cold places it hurt bad and I still can't sleep on my arm