@@cybronec having a lmg fed by rifle bullet clips, making it easier for logistics and allowing the assistant to reload without stop firing, isn't great for you?
When you realize that the US later adopted the idea of the machinegunner getting ammo from riflemen decades later with the 249. Japanese machine guns were weird yes but they actually have a reliable and dependable weapon. The italians have similar machine gun that feed by a 30 round clip/tray but theirs was a clusterfuck.
It hurts seeing this thing fully auto with no intervals between 5 shots. Type 11 could never unload the full hopper in one go, it would fire all 5 on the strips then a pause because the next strip would fall, replace the empty stripper clip, and be placed on the feeder. Also the removal of the entire hopper is curse af.
Only enlisted is doing it right by feeding clips but yeah if you shoot 1 bullet a clip disappear in order to put 1 more to fully loaded due lack of animations
I'm sorry, but you're demonstrably incorrect. The Type 11 is provably capable of uninterrupted automatic fire. ruclips.net/video/_qD9NmhMF8o/видео.html ruclips.net/video/pkRf7qDZ2dk/видео.html ruclips.net/video/rEYT_3XGhT0/видео.html ruclips.net/video/iwi-3pSFKGc/видео.html - (Volume warning. This clip has absolutely no audio balancing.) The mechanism appears to eject the clip almost instantly, and it has to. The bolt doesn't stop moving. If what you suggest was correct, you would need to rechamber the rifle every five shots, or the gun would have to have a buffer system designed to slow down the bolt every five shots to prevent it from closing while the hopper was slowly ejecting a clip. That said, I do agree that removing the hopper feels silly, but that's also an intended feature. Here - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_11_light_machine_gun#/media/File:Japanese_Type_11_LMG_from_1933_book.jpg "A feature of the Type 11 machine gun is its detachable hopper; it can be refilled while attached and does not require removal during operation." The weapon was issued with several additional hoppers for reloading in emergency circumstances, much like its contemporary the Fedorov Avtomat. You were intended to top up both guns with clips during normal operation, and only swap magazines/hoppers if you really needed it. Kind of like the whole "We can't afford to give the troops more than one round/semi auto/full auto! They'll just waste bullets!" evolution from the 1850s-1930s. It's like a magazine cutoff feature. Actually, that's kind of a fun point. The Type 11's whole deal is kind of similar to the idea behind the Krag Jorgensen. Huh. That's a bizarre parallel.
@@PROBRADyah but some of them dare to say it historical accurate stuff in the game while having some of the weapon reload in the wrong way or weird way.
I was obsessing about this a few days ago. Occurred to me that it..could be reloaded one stripper clip at a time, but you should be able to interrupt the reload to fire once you had at least one clip in.
Each stripper clip is 5 rounds. If the rounds remaining is not a multiple of 5 (partially used bottom clip), just filling the hopper will not result in a full 30 rounds. So they avoided this by replacing the hopper altogether, unless it's a multiple of 5.
@@warlordshaxx856You are right and the other guy is wrong. The reload animation is incorrect. the Japanese military did not replace the hopper to reload the gun the assistant gunner would simply top off the hopper with 5 stripper clip. You can see in Japanese army manual for the type 11.
You are right its not how the thing really works, but for thr gameplay reasons it makes sense, reloading is meant to put the number back up to full in arcade shooters, but say you fire two rounds and reload... wtf are they gonna do? you fire five and and a clip ejects you can slap another clip in, you fire twelve you can put two clips in but you still have that 2 round discrepancy, either your gun will randomly be 1-4 rounds unloaded sometimes or they can use video game magic to have the dude rip off the hopper fixing the discrepancy because if you change the whole unit the number can be 30 everytime, a secondary set of animations when appropriate and you are on a count of five to reach 30 properly, and a cool reload for whem you are flat empty thats a bit beefier then just throwing more ammo into it. I do kind of like ripping off the hopper to reload from empty but I get why it's dumb, this gun is very pretty though
@@cleeiii357 BUUUT you do not remove the hopper even when empty. You only remove the hopper if its damaged or needs cleaning. You do not reload the gun by chancing the hopper XD
Is that really difficult to fully reload the hopper with clips? Detaching the hopper is a crime against this gun and no, it's not for "gameplay purposes" placing more clips on the top shouldn't be a big deal
Apparently it was issued with additional hoppers, but doctrinally, you're absolutely correct. This is some cowboy ass shootin that would not have been standard practice. It's a bit like the Fedorov Avtomat where they'd issue it with four or five mags, but the loader carried those, and you were really only suppose to use them if shit hit the fan. Normally, you'd top up the magazine with stripper clips.
Have ya been watching the video? Placing more clips on the hopper is still done in the reload animation on both games when the hopper isn't depleted. They only replace the entire hopper when it's fully depleted.
The removal of the entire hopper is wrong, but both games still top-up the hopper with individual clips in their reload animations when the entire hopper isn't depleted. Have ya watched the video?
For casuals who prefer the easy arcadey gameplay where they could just turn off their minds when playing. As games like enlisted, post scriptum, and squad requires more than one braincell.
That reload of placing more clips on yhe hopper is still done on both games though. Have ya been watching the video? Replacing the entire hopper, while unrealistic, is still only do e when the entire hopper is depleted.
Timestamps:
Hopper full reloads 0:00
All stripper clip reloads 0:37
Still no inspect animations in Vanguard...
It's a dream come to true to finally see the Type 11 rendered in video game form.
Medal of Honor Rising Sun has it
@@WendiGonerLHI was about to say it thx for the mention
and Enlisted
Cod waw also
@@leeknow953 CoD WAW only had the Type 99 LMG as Japan's lmg represented in the game.
Vanguard sounds like it’s reloading under water with all that extra sound
Why do all CoD:Vanguard sound the same? They all sound like rusty tin cans mashing against each other
Because it was a forced and a money grab title by activision
That's what I'm sayin
Unfortunately SHG seems to have been extremely limited in the time they had to make vanguard and so they resorted to reusing their WW2 sound effects.
원래 저렴한 녹음기에 총성을 녹음하면 에어소프트건의 격발음과 유사하게 들립니다.
Such a fascinating machine gun concept.
what do you mean by concept???? it's a real gun
@@cybronec having a lmg fed by rifle bullet clips, making it easier for logistics and allowing the assistant to reload without stop firing, isn't great for you?
@@alexravex4575look for a video of a Type 11 strip down. It has so many moving parts individually machined.
@@alexravex4575 no,not great at all, IJA later abandon this idea and adopting Type 96, Type 99 instead.
When you realize that the US later adopted the idea of the machinegunner getting ammo from riflemen decades later with the 249. Japanese machine guns were weird yes but they actually have a reliable and dependable weapon. The italians have similar machine gun that feed by a 30 round clip/tray but theirs was a clusterfuck.
Type 11 is A Unique Machine Gun
There are a few other LMGs that use a hopper to feed.
You guys forgot perino model 1980 🥺👉👈
The miniscule casings on BFV omg-
Rushed spaghetti coding.
It hurts seeing this thing fully auto with no intervals between 5 shots. Type 11 could never unload the full hopper in one go, it would fire all 5 on the strips then a pause because the next strip would fall, replace the empty stripper clip, and be placed on the feeder. Also the removal of the entire hopper is curse af.
Only enlisted is doing it right by feeding clips but yeah if you shoot 1 bullet a clip disappear in order to put 1 more to fully loaded due lack of animations
I'm sorry, but you're demonstrably incorrect. The Type 11 is provably capable of uninterrupted automatic fire.
ruclips.net/video/_qD9NmhMF8o/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/pkRf7qDZ2dk/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/rEYT_3XGhT0/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/iwi-3pSFKGc/видео.html - (Volume warning. This clip has absolutely no audio balancing.)
The mechanism appears to eject the clip almost instantly, and it has to. The bolt doesn't stop moving. If what you suggest was correct, you would need to rechamber the rifle every five shots, or the gun would have to have a buffer system designed to slow down the bolt every five shots to prevent it from closing while the hopper was slowly ejecting a clip.
That said, I do agree that removing the hopper feels silly, but that's also an intended feature.
Here - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_11_light_machine_gun#/media/File:Japanese_Type_11_LMG_from_1933_book.jpg
"A feature of the Type 11 machine gun is its detachable hopper; it can be refilled while attached and does not require removal during operation."
The weapon was issued with several additional hoppers for reloading in emergency circumstances, much like its contemporary the Fedorov Avtomat. You were intended to top up both guns with clips during normal operation, and only swap magazines/hoppers if you really needed it. Kind of like the whole "We can't afford to give the troops more than one round/semi auto/full auto! They'll just waste bullets!" evolution from the 1850s-1930s. It's like a magazine cutoff feature.
Actually, that's kind of a fun point. The Type 11's whole deal is kind of similar to the idea behind the Krag Jorgensen. Huh. That's a bizarre parallel.
Lol this is game not real life
@@PROBRADyah but some of them dare to say it historical accurate stuff in the game while having some of the weapon reload in the wrong way or weird way.
@@Mr-Ad-196 I have never heard anyone call Vanguard historically accurate other than activision.
Leave it to cod to always increase the fire rate to 2x the realistic speed lol
Its not the first time they did this. cod ww2 did this aswell, but its reversed
The CoD rate of fire is actually more accurate. The Battlefield one is too slow
"medal of honer rising sun"
Always hopper reload hidden from view.
Now that I think about it I shoulda disabled the ADS FOV feature in BFV. Oh well
ホッパー式給弾器をマガジンみたいに変えるの笑えるｗ ゲームだから仕方ないんだろうけど
imagine if you actually had to load the gun clip by clip.
I was obsessing about this a few days ago. Occurred to me that it..could be reloaded one stripper clip at a time, but you should be able to interrupt the reload to fire once you had at least one clip in.
why do you need to remove the whole hopper mechanism to reaload
just place stripper clips in the hopper
Each stripper clip is 5 rounds. If the rounds remaining is not a multiple of 5 (partially used bottom clip), just filling the hopper will not result in a full 30 rounds. So they avoided this by replacing the hopper altogether, unless it's a multiple of 5.
@@yatsumleung8618 that just doesn't makes sense not unless your are willing to sacrifice lots of resources making multiple hoppers
@@warlordshaxx856You are right and the other guy is wrong. The reload animation is incorrect. the Japanese military did not replace the hopper to reload the gun the assistant gunner would simply top off the hopper with 5 stripper clip. You can see in Japanese army manual for the type 11.
@@iamadiver3963 yeah, hoppers are too expensive to be mass produced especially with the major design flaw
You are right its not how the thing really works, but for thr gameplay reasons it makes sense, reloading is meant to put the number back up to full in arcade shooters, but say you fire two rounds and reload... wtf are they gonna do? you fire five and and a clip ejects you can slap another clip in, you fire twelve you can put two clips in but you still have that 2 round discrepancy, either your gun will randomly be 1-4 rounds unloaded sometimes or they can use video game magic to have the dude rip off the hopper fixing the discrepancy because if you change the whole unit the number can be 30 everytime, a secondary set of animations when appropriate and you are on a count of five to reach 30 properly, and a cool reload for whem you are flat empty thats a bit beefier then just throwing more ammo into it.
I do kind of like ripping off the hopper to reload from empty but I get why it's dumb, this gun is very pretty though
They screwed up the reload
You can top them up in both games without removing the hopper though. Have ya watched the video?
@@cleeiii357 BUUUT you do not remove the hopper even when empty. You only remove the hopper if its damaged or needs cleaning. You do not reload the gun by chancing the hopper XD
One is an actual fun game
The other is just depressing
both are fun
Easy Red 2 has a better reload for the upcoming Second Sino-Japanese War DLC
Is that really difficult to fully reload the hopper with clips? Detaching the hopper is a crime against this gun and no, it's not for "gameplay purposes" placing more clips on the top shouldn't be a big deal
Well, I think Enlisted does an awesome job with the type 11. No detached Hopper when reloading.
Apparently it was issued with additional hoppers, but doctrinally, you're absolutely correct. This is some cowboy ass shootin that would not have been standard practice.
It's a bit like the Fedorov Avtomat where they'd issue it with four or five mags, but the loader carried those, and you were really only suppose to use them if shit hit the fan. Normally, you'd top up the magazine with stripper clips.
Have ya been watching the video?
Placing more clips on the hopper is still done in the reload animation on both games when the hopper isn't depleted. They only replace the entire hopper when it's fully depleted.
Crazy that ppl getting mad over a game that DEF is not made for 100% historical accuracy
Vanguards lmg just eatd the stripper clips
In bfv though it doesn't fire 5 round bursts but full auto
atleast they showed the clips being ejected
Reload is completely wrong on both...
The removal of the entire hopper is wrong, but both games still top-up the hopper with individual clips in their reload animations when the entire hopper isn't depleted. Have ya watched the video?
@@cleeiii357 yes and...
This is painfully wrong, it would never fire more than one rifle clip at a time
I’m trying to figure out who this video is for considering neither one of these games was ever popular or relevant
For casuals who prefer the easy arcadey gameplay where they could just turn off their minds when playing. As games like enlisted, post scriptum, and squad requires more than one braincell.
@@cleeiii357*for boring losers who prefer to take five million years to reload weaponry and then die to an unknown sniper hiding in a bush 2km away 🥱
God.... Vanguard really sucked
True.
Battlefield V too
@cleeiii357 nah. BfV had a bad start, but Vanguard took it too a whole new extreme
ruclips.net/video/iwi-3pSFKGc/видео.html this is the correct way on how it should be reloaded
That reload of placing more clips on yhe hopper is still done on both games though. Have ya been watching the video? Replacing the entire hopper, while unrealistic, is still only do e when the entire hopper is depleted.
Medal of Honor rising sun did it best
Just game.
how it works and why and you go to do that useless a piece of shit game
-Animarchy
(It unattachable)
CoD 💩
Wow Japan wepon is coolest
Right up until dirt gets in anywhere
Weapon, Japan. Moment
Nah
this is horrible