This video helped prepare me for rebuilding my 2005 FZ6 engine which is almost identical . When you set the final drive shaft in place there's a half circlip that sets in a groove to keep it in place and I forgot to install mine and had to go back and split the cases . Thankfully since I wasn't actually removing the crankshaft I didn't have to take off the head or re-do the timing .
A good idea that was missed is to weigh all the pistons and rods individually to make sure everything is as balanced as possible. Also good to have the crank sent out and balanced. Details people,, details!!!!! 😬👍
Real quick I go to a school for high-performance/automotive technology and the guy in this video explains things 1000x more clearly than any instructor I've had thus far. You would think that a University would hire people like this to teach the next generation of high-performance mechanics. Still, they cut as much costs as possible and hire instructors that lack the passion to transfer that knowledge to the next generation because someone with this caliper of patience and skill level would obviously require payment that reflects that. The only real advantage of going to a school like the one I'm currently enrolled in is the access to tools and certain equipment so if anyone is considering attending a university or institute that "teaches" high-performance/automotive technology or anything related to racing and/or mechanical work please make sure you have experience in that subject or the willingness to teach yourself because I've seen so many people drop out or get kicked out after one or two sessions and it is genuinely saddening.
Would love to know after all said and done how the power is. Dyno before and after? Would love to see if there's more power or at least how the power comes on and the overall power curve.
I'm pretty sure, you have a wrong tightening procedure at 11:45. The manual has two different angles for the two different screw-lengths: you need a increased prolongation for a longer shaft to establish the same preload as a short one. So the eight 85mm screws #1-7 and #10 get ~50° degrees in a third step and the screws #8+9 get ~75°. You are damaging your engine threads with way to much torque.
I know this video is old but the Yamaha manual states: 1st tighten M8 crankcase bolts to 14ft lbs (as in video). 2nd, loosen, than torque to 8.9 (as in the video). Here is where it goes off the rails a bit. 3rd Stage is "1"-"7", "10" + 50 degrees. Bolt "8", "9" + 75 degrees. This makes sense as the 75 degree angle bolts are shouldered. You don't tighten ALL the bolts to 50 degrees THAN 75 degrees. This is straight out of the factory manual. I know I'm a bit late to the party but better late than never.
Hey, thanks so much for the video! I was wondering if you ever dealt with crankshaft position sensor issues? I'm hoping i don't have to tear the whole engine down to fix the issue due to lack of tools.
One more thing: when shifting gears is it normal for the output shaft to need some rotation before the sprockets fully slide in? Because just rotating the input shaft by hand won't allow the full sliding of some sprockets. I'm almost done with my rebuild and wanna make sure I've installed the gearbox properly. Thanks!
Great videos, however, when it comes to rod / crank bearings never solely rely on the yellow green blue bearing color bull crap. Always verify your clearances with a micrometer and a dial bore gauge. Your looking for .002 -.003 oil clearance. Relying on color recommendations is asking for problems. I’ve built race engines for 25 years and very rarely are the clearances correct based on the color charts.
Hello, my name is Joaquín, I'm from Costa Rica, the Yamaha R6 and R1 have the problem of broken cranks and it is typical of those bikes that is due to this problem I am a customer of Parzilla.
This is an awesome series, I've watched the tear down and rebuild a lot in the last couple of weeks to prep for a similar job on my FZ6 lol. That timing chain sprocket at 12:30 - does that only go on one way? (because its stamped with the T) I'd hate to put it back on 180 degrees in the wrong direction lol
Let me ask you do you ever weigh the connecting rods and bearings and piston and then grind them to match one another? Whenever I tear down an engine I always try to balance the pistons and rods. Not 100% sure if it makes that big of a difference but that was the way a close friend showed me how to do. torque degree gauge that you were using could you tell me what brand it is and perhaps where I could find one. The one I use is mechanical not digital and as you probably know looking down at a mechanical one you could be off a few degrees and not realize it because you look at your age at a different angle than the last bolt that you tightened.
I had to laugh when you were talking about the piston rings and putting light oil on them. I was helping a friend work on his engine over in my garage. I have enough different tools that I could work on just about anything with an engine. I showed my friend how to put the rings on. Explain to him just to put a light coating of oil on the rings and just a little bit from the rings down to coat just a light enough coat to make it work. Unknown to me at that time my definition and his definition of a light coating were complete opposites. Once we had everything back together and did the first start up we smoked up the whole garage. I was seconds away from turning the motor off when I finally noticed that the smoke was getting less and less. It wasn't until I talked to him that I found out he almost basically poured oil on the bottom half of the pistons and of course with that much coverage and coats the cylinders above the range. I really started laughing out loud when you just talked about the oil on the rings. My friend must have known I was just writing about him. In the middle of my comment he just text me to see if I want to go riding today since our temperature are at normal for this time of year. I really enjoy watching videos like this. I don't care what you think you know you don't know everything. There's different ways of doing something and I'd like to learn all of them. I couldn't tell you how many lawn mower videos I watch. I don't work on any of this stuff for a paycheck. The only thing I ever charge friends and family and neighbors for is parts. I don't mind helping someone out but I'm not going to pay for their parts to do it. It's just now I'm retired and I like having different projects to do. I'm thinking about building myself a racing bike that's how I came to see your video. You have a lot of knowledge and I do appreciate you sharing that with the world. Things like this is the biggest reason the internet was useful for in the beginning. To share knowledge of different things with people from around the world. I also made sure I'm hitting the like button as I'm watching the videos and I have already hit the subscribe button. I'm looking forward to watching more.
I've been going back and forth on the bearing sizing... I have a 2006 motor ready to rebuild. My Crank reads 222212222. Confirmed all of the connecting rods say 5 so I have all new bearings for those. The mains I am confused... my case half is stamped with "6 5". I am assuming the 6 is for the mains and the 5 is for the rods? However when I looked at the old main bearings they were all brown. The last bearing, however, the brown was nearly worn away and barely identifiable... I'm not sure if it was installed incorrectly from the factory? I could always order a brown and a green for that last main and plastigauge but a little at a loss for ordering mains... Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I needs help. The only question I have is which way does my piston rod face? I have a 07cbr1000rr and there's now video on my bike out social media. I'm learning from other motorcycle rebuilds smh. Somebody help my please.
When you loosen and retorque the bolts do you do loosen and retourque screw one, then loosen and retourque screw two, and so on, or you loosen all screws first?
Is it 3rd r6 gen from 06 to 14 is having different torque bolt tighten specs and step from year to year ? Since i couldn't find any 08 service manual, i just found 06 and 07 r6s service manual and i dont find same tighten sequence like in this video, i only find first step tighten that is same in 06 service manuals and not any of them showing tighten sequence using angle degree
Buenas noches , se me rompió mi yamaha r1 2016 , le saqué el cartel y vi la 2 viela cortada , pregunta , tiene balanceadores ese motor? Es difícil el.punto x la voy a desarmar yo .
A plastigauge was used to verify clearances. We decided to leave it out of the final edit of the video because the Yamaha manual doesn't suggest the procedure. We like to verify anyway.
Question: do you need to change the crankcase bolts? I have an R1, manuels says nothing about changing anything. I reused them, but i forgot to lubricate them? Is that realy bad or okay?
@@PartzillaParts Oke thanks, wel i tight it with 60 degrees and 60 degrees is 60 degrees right?The oil protects the trheads oke.. Wel hopefully nothing bad will happen..
My crankcase assy is broken, can anyone help me to find thats part for my yamaha R6 2013 ,, im on indonesian.. please help!!! I can't find that part in my country
I have built whole sleds, 4 triple/triple two strokes, one cr250,one cr125, one 600 twin, and NONE of this prepared me for the difficulty of rebuilding a cbr600f4. These engines also seem to lose life every rebuild. 1st 72k , 2nd 34k, 3rd 9k. That's paying $3500+ going by manual. I wish I was in the States where all these bikes are a dime a dozen. Canada your forced to buy a new bike or rebuild. Ebay isnt feasible due to price of engine, shipping, installation. Again, forced to rebuild or buy new.
If the parts are uninstalled, you can soak them and use a plastic scraper. You can use a bristle brush, just don't dig in too hard. Just don't want to scratch the components.
Hi, I watch all your videos and I don't know how to tell what I need for crank bearings. I watched this video several times and I don't see the same marks as you at all. My bike is an older model but the Parts people don't answer my emails and the chat portal don't work at all. I called the number and one lady hung up on my and the other guy didn't know what I was talking about. If you could be of help that would be great. Thanks in advance. Oh and they think the best option was for me to buy all they types of bearings then try them on to make sure they would work and ship the rest back. I personal think that is a waste of money. The bike is a 99 ZX9r and I am looking to get crank and rode bearings. The only thing on the crank is the letter (B) and a number (1). I can send a picture if needed. Sorry for the long message but just confused.
You can take your crankshaft to a machine shop and have them mic out your journals and order bearings which come in .25 mm increments. You want .25mm larger than journal size for oil clearance . Example : If journal is 30.5mm order 30.75mm bearings .
Tim, I had the same concern and Wiseco assured me that the stock rods would handle the build. The rods were inspected carefully and were in good condition to re-use. A lot of thought went into this project before the videos were produced.
Partzilla detailed clear presentations help people to take on projects they normally would not have the confidence to do by themselves. 🧰🧰🛠📐🧯 Thanx.
This video helped prepare me for rebuilding my 2005 FZ6 engine which is almost identical . When you set the final drive shaft in place there's a half circlip that sets in a groove to keep it in place and I forgot to install mine and had to go back and split the cases . Thankfully since I wasn't actually removing the crankshaft I didn't have to take off the head or re-do the timing .
Partzilla you are the best teacher in the youtube !
The amount of parts in an engine! Unreal
Great video.
oh man this looks so relaxing. I could do and watch this stuff all day.
Thank you sir. I'm so impatient I skip sections to see the only part I needs but ended up watching the whole video.
A good idea that was missed is to weigh all the pistons and rods individually to make sure everything is as balanced as possible. Also good to have the crank sent out and balanced. Details people,, details!!!!! 😬👍
What if one is slightly off? How would you balance it out?
@@frankiemarchese2978depends on if you need to add weight or take out weight, but basically add or drill out weight
Real quick I go to a school for high-performance/automotive technology and the guy in this video explains things 1000x more clearly than any instructor I've had thus far. You would think that a University would hire people like this to teach the next generation of high-performance mechanics. Still, they cut as much costs as possible and hire instructors that lack the passion to transfer that knowledge to the next generation because someone with this caliper of patience and skill level would obviously require payment that reflects that. The only real advantage of going to a school like the one I'm currently enrolled in is the access to tools and certain equipment so if anyone is considering attending a university or institute that "teaches" high-performance/automotive technology or anything related to racing and/or mechanical work please make sure you have experience in that subject or the willingness to teach yourself because I've seen so many people drop out or get kicked out after one or two sessions and it is genuinely saddening.
I have the same engine that needs to be rebuilt . I've watched all the videos . I still wouldn't date do this. I wish partzilla would rebuild it
Would love to know after all said and done how the power is. Dyno before and after? Would love to see if there's more power or at least how the power comes on and the overall power curve.
I'm pretty sure, you have a wrong tightening procedure at 11:45. The manual has two different angles for the two different screw-lengths: you need a increased prolongation for a longer shaft to establish the same preload as a short one. So the eight 85mm screws #1-7 and #10 get ~50° degrees in a third step and the screws #8+9 get ~75°. You are damaging your engine threads with way to much torque.
You should do a Honda CR80 Engine rebuild!! I am doing one right now and have a few questions that im sure your video could answer!
I know this video is old but the Yamaha manual states: 1st tighten M8 crankcase bolts to 14ft lbs (as in video). 2nd, loosen, than torque to 8.9 (as in the video). Here is where it goes off the rails a bit. 3rd Stage is "1"-"7", "10" + 50 degrees. Bolt "8", "9" + 75 degrees. This makes sense as the 75 degree angle bolts are shouldered. You don't tighten ALL the bolts to 50 degrees THAN 75 degrees. This is straight out of the factory manual.
I know I'm a bit late to the party but better late than never.
Where did you get the manual?
@@poodeehoo Factory Yamaha manual.
Then, not than. But thank you for the info!
@@huntersmark917 A syntax comment??🙄
I wonder what the final result was of this motor: what did it make on the dyno?
Excellent video which is very well done
this guy is a boss
Hey, thanks so much for the video! I was wondering if you ever dealt with crankshaft position sensor issues? I'm hoping i don't have to tear the whole engine down to fix the issue due to lack of tools.
Just passing by to make sure I leave my "like",,,
Excellent video, thank you!
One more thing: when shifting gears is it normal for the output shaft to need some rotation before the sprockets fully slide in? Because just rotating the input shaft by hand won't allow the full sliding of some sprockets. I'm almost done with my rebuild and wanna make sure I've installed the gearbox properly. Thanks!
Can you please do a video for 2012 r1
Great videos, however, when it comes to rod / crank bearings never solely rely on the yellow green blue bearing color bull crap. Always verify your clearances with a micrometer and a dial bore gauge. Your looking for .002 -.003 oil clearance. Relying on color recommendations is asking for problems. I’ve built race engines for 25 years and very rarely are the clearances correct based on the color charts.
Or plastigage right?
Sir i have a question...why there are tiny holes on piston face?
John let's have a helper 🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
Thought I was a boss changing my own oil
Lame.
Hello, my name is Joaquín, I'm from Costa Rica, the Yamaha R6 and R1 have the problem of broken cranks and it is typical of those bikes that is due to this problem I am a customer of Parzilla.
Please review yamaha R3
Excelent professional!!!!
This is an awesome series, I've watched the tear down and rebuild a lot in the last couple of weeks to prep for a similar job on my FZ6 lol. That timing chain sprocket at 12:30 - does that only go on one way? (because its stamped with the T) I'd hate to put it back on 180 degrees in the wrong direction lol
Let me ask you do you ever weigh the connecting rods and bearings and piston and then grind them to match one another? Whenever I tear down an engine I always try to balance the pistons and rods. Not 100% sure if it makes that big of a difference but that was the way a close friend showed me how to do.
torque degree gauge that you were using could you tell me what brand it is and perhaps where I could find one. The one I use is mechanical not digital and as you probably know looking down at a mechanical one you could be off a few degrees and not realize it because you look at your age at a different angle than the last bolt that you tightened.
I had to laugh when you were talking about the piston rings and putting light oil on them. I was helping a friend work on his engine over in my garage. I have enough different tools that I could work on just about anything with an engine. I showed my friend how to put the rings on. Explain to him just to put a light coating of oil on the rings and just a little bit from the rings down to coat just a light enough coat to make it work. Unknown to me at that time my definition and his definition of a light coating were complete opposites. Once we had everything back together and did the first start up we smoked up the whole garage. I was seconds away from turning the motor off when I finally noticed that the smoke was getting less and less. It wasn't until I talked to him that I found out he almost basically poured oil on the bottom half of the pistons and of course with that much coverage and coats the cylinders above the range.
I really started laughing out loud when you just talked about the oil on the rings. My friend must have known I was just writing about him. In the middle of my comment he just text me to see if I want to go riding today since our temperature are at normal for this time of year.
I really enjoy watching videos like this. I don't care what you think you know you don't know everything. There's different ways of doing something and I'd like to learn all of them. I couldn't tell you how many lawn mower videos I watch. I don't work on any of this stuff for a paycheck. The only thing I ever charge friends and family and neighbors for is parts. I don't mind helping someone out but I'm not going to pay for their parts to do it. It's just now I'm retired and I like having different projects to do. I'm thinking about building myself a racing bike that's how I came to see your video. You have a lot of knowledge and I do appreciate you sharing that with the world. Things like this is the biggest reason the internet was useful for in the beginning. To share knowledge of different things with people from around the world. I also made sure I'm hitting the like button as I'm watching the videos and I have already hit the subscribe button. I'm looking forward to watching more.
Torque settings for 2003 Yamaha R6 crankcase
Where do u find the connecting rods for the wiseco piston kit, or are the stock rods reused?
I've been going back and forth on the bearing sizing... I have a 2006 motor ready to rebuild. My Crank reads 222212222. Confirmed all of the connecting rods say 5 so I have all new bearings for those. The mains I am confused... my case half is stamped with "6 5". I am assuming the 6 is for the mains and the 5 is for the rods? However when I looked at the old main bearings they were all brown. The last bearing, however, the brown was nearly worn away and barely identifiable... I'm not sure if it was installed incorrectly from the factory? I could always order a brown and a green for that last main and plastigauge but a little at a loss for ordering mains... Any help would be greatly appreciated!
What is the torque for the bolts holding the oil pan in place?
R6 2008 yzf good job
Good job sir
Why use stock rods instead of aftermarket?
I needs help. The only question I have is which way does my piston rod face? I have a 07cbr1000rr and there's now video on my bike out social media. I'm learning from other motorcycle rebuilds smh. Somebody help my please.
i love this
When you loosen and retorque the bolts do you do loosen and retourque screw one, then loosen and retourque screw two, and so on, or you loosen all screws first?
Loosen all screws and start over.
Thanks! @@PartzillaParts
Bom dia irmão; Mim tire uma dúvida .os 10 parafuso na direção do vira Recebem torque ângulo de 50 graus e 75 graus??
I have a 2002 suzuki Gsx R and I can’t get it to start it cranks but won’t turn over
Shouldn't any stretch to yield bolt be torqued dry? Or with a special lube from like arp
Is it 3rd r6 gen from 06 to 14 is having different torque bolt tighten specs and step from year to year ? Since i couldn't find any 08 service manual, i just found 06 and 07 r6s service manual and i dont find same tighten sequence like in this video, i only find first step tighten that is same in 06 service manuals and not any of them showing tighten sequence using angle degree
Why do you minus an extra 1 on mains?
Gracias
what's the link to the pistons used
Buenas noches , se me rompió mi yamaha r1 2016 , le saqué el cartel y vi la 2 viela cortada , pregunta , tiene balanceadores ese motor? Es difícil el.punto x la voy a desarmar yo .
Was plastigauge used on the main and rod bearings? I was under the impression that bearing clearances must ALWAYS be verified. Thanks for the videos!
A plastigauge was used to verify clearances. We decided to leave it out of the final edit of the video because the Yamaha manual doesn't suggest the procedure. We like to verify anyway.
My manual suggests using plastigage to measure journal to bearing clearings, 05 r1
The new piston is just shining like my forehead..
Nice job 👏👏👏💥💥💥🚀🚀🚀
Don't use plast gate?
An estimate would be nice. Rebuild project price $
Does anyone know what engine stand this is?
It's a Duralast 750lb engine stand, but I'm wondering what attachment is used for the sport bike engine
How much crank end play does the r6 have? I cant find a number in the service manual
Very tight tolerances, you shouldn't have end play.
you mean this engine has 636cc right?
Yes, we upgraded it from 599cc to 636cc.
yeah! sound really really nice,,i love r6 also!
R1 engine rebuid please
Подскажите где купить двигатель Yamaha yzf r6
Can u tell me wheres the yamaha R6 fan relay located ?
Should be under your left side fairing.
Hey Mr. Talley, How can I say the specification of bearing that can I use on the uper half of the crankcase?
In the service manual it has a chart to match the numbers on your crank.
@@PartzillaParts sorry, but I don't find this on the manual service that I make download, I get severou files and don't found this information
Partzilla can you help me?
Question: do you need to change the crankcase bolts? I have an R1, manuels says nothing about changing anything. I reused them, but i forgot to lubricate them? Is that realy bad or okay?
It's an old habit, bolts stretch. It's the playing it safe method. Lubricating helps get them to torque spec without damaging the bolt heads.
@@PartzillaParts Oke thanks, wel i tight it with 60 degrees and 60 degrees is 60 degrees right?The oil protects the trheads oke.. Wel hopefully nothing bad will happen..
My crankcase assy is broken, can anyone help me to find thats part for my yamaha R6 2013 ,, im on indonesian.. please help!!! I can't find that part in my country
We ship internationally!
www.partzilla.com/catalog/yamaha/motorcycle/2013/yzfr6-yzfr6dg
See how much dealers charge for what we can do ourselves. 😈 Partzilla.Thanx.🧰🧰
🤤Eye candy 8:31
Which direction is your piston rods facing? There's a smooth side and number side
Assemble the piston and connecting rod with the journal bearing tab facing to the piston "dot" mark.
I have built whole sleds, 4 triple/triple two strokes, one cr250,one cr125, one 600 twin, and NONE of this prepared me for the difficulty of rebuilding a cbr600f4. These engines also seem to lose life every rebuild.
1st 72k , 2nd 34k, 3rd 9k. That's paying $3500+ going by manual.
I wish I was in the States where all these bikes are a dime a dozen. Canada your forced to buy a new bike or rebuild. Ebay isnt feasible due to price of engine, shipping, installation. Again, forced to rebuild or buy new.
Bom mecânico show sucesso
Can I bring you my R6 so you can make a video? I'll pay for parts! 😉
Bravo 👍🙂🙂🍗🥩🥓🥓🍺🍺🍺🍺
What should i use to clean the carbon deposits ?
If the parts are uninstalled, you can soak them and use a plastic scraper. You can use a bristle brush, just don't dig in too hard. Just don't want to scratch the components.
Hi, I watch all your videos and I don't know how to tell what I need for crank bearings. I watched this video several times and I don't see the same marks as you at all. My bike is an older model but the Parts people don't answer my emails and the chat portal don't work at all. I called the number and one lady hung up on my and the other guy didn't know what I was talking about. If you could be of help that would be great. Thanks in advance. Oh and they think the best option was for me to buy all they types of bearings then try them on to make sure they would work and ship the rest back. I personal think that is a waste of money. The bike is a 99 ZX9r and I am looking to get crank and rode bearings. The only thing on the crank is the letter (B) and a number (1). I can send a picture if needed. Sorry for the long message but just confused.
There should be a string of letters and numbers. That code is what labels out your bearing needs.
You can take your crankshaft to a machine shop and have them mic out your journals and order bearings which come in .25 mm increments. You want .25mm larger than journal size for oil clearance . Example : If journal is 30.5mm order 30.75mm bearings .
Sir please use language Indonesian on Vidio taks
Apakah saya boleh menjadi murid anda.
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why in the hell would you reuse a stock rod out of a motor you know nothing about? especially on a 2 mm motor. insane and complete nonsense
Tim, I had the same concern and Wiseco assured me that the stock rods would handle the build. The rods were inspected carefully and were in good condition to re-use. A lot of thought went into this project before the videos were produced.
Awesome
Boa tarde irmão. Mim tire uma dúvida
Os parafusos na direção do virabrequim recebem torque ângular de 50 graus e depois mais 75 graus ??