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Or... maybe he had his mind erased like they were planning on doing to Fives. If that happened we probably didn’t see him because nobody wants to see him.
No, I don't think he deserved punishment. He did what he knew was right. Unfortunately, the court system was under control of people like Palpatine, so there was 0% chance he would ever get a fair trial. And to be honest, I think that even if someone like Chancellor Valorum was still under rule, he likely would still get unfair treatment, due to people like Tarkin. He was 100% correct, but unfortunately, history will not see it that way.
Tbh I don’t know why Palpatine would defend Krell. He wasn’t apart of his plans and wanted to be Dooku’s apprentice which makes Krell a threat. If anything Dogma helped Palpatine but he prolly wouldn’t care. And in the original story Rex killed Krell and I doubt anything bad would’ve happened to him
@@haroldiscool6410 true. Would he go by what the people and republic think though? Say that the republic and Senate thought it was an wrong action by Dogma, would he simply accuse him of murder due to how it would bode for him in terms of the people's respect for him?
Not entirely considering krell was a traitor and admitted that he wasn't a Jedi anymore and had committed treason against the Republic for his actions. While he hadn't received the orders to kill him, I don't think it was an early execution of order 66 since krell was now an enemy.
I wish Dogma would've been in season 7. If he was in season 7 I like to think that he'll remove his inhibitor chip somehow, fight with Ashoka and Rex against the other Clones and then Dogma dies near the end adding to the sadness.
I hope that Dogma wasn’t executed since the Jedi Council was aware of Pong Krell’s treason. Maybe he was reassigned to another unit. I can imagine the Empire using Krell’s actions as evidence of Jedi treason. Dogma would have been rehabilitated as a hero by the Imperial for propaganda.
They were bred to take orders without questions. And he gets punished for it. I feel sorry for Dogma. He follows orders and gets arrested then disobeys then by killing Krell and still gets arrested. He cant win :(
All the clones can´t win. They are the army of slaves engineered and bred and trained to be disposable war material. They are genetically altered to be loyal like abused dog who gets kicked by its owners and always licks their face because he was bred that way and doesn´t know any better and doesn´t fully understand it is abused. They are so disposable to the "noble and democratic" Republic they even don´t have human rights, they are property. Noone has ever bothered to think what they would do after the war. What if the war ended quickly? Would they be all euthanised because they would be useless? Would they be given human rights? What if a clone finds a girlfriend but the relationship is doomed from the start because the clone´s aging process is accelerated, so when she´s about 40, he´s about 80. It´s heartbreaking "Aragorn and Arwen" type of situation. Clones are the most abused people of all the inhabitants of the galaxy.
Had I been Dave Filoni, I would have made the last scene of episode 12 a dual shot, which shows the cells of both Dogma and Barriss Offee. The doors to their cells would open, they would look up, but before they could say anything, the clone in the doorway would shoot them.
I hated him until he killed Krell. Imagine we got an Arc with the 21st NovaCore and Krell, Krell would do something stupid and Bacara would just shoot him randomly with no hesitation
I've always had a soft spot in my heart for Dogma. Loyalty was his greatest strength and his great weakness all at once. He was taken advantage of because of it. I don't have any particular theory on what happened to him, but I hate that they never closed out that storyline. Dogma (and the whole 501st) deserved better.
@@stretchscreamers Well, in the show, Anakin even mentions that Dogma reminds him of a younger, newer Rex. Seems like Dogma was so eager to please because he was so green
Dogma’s fate should have been shown during the Clone Wars. It would’ve be such a good arc (although it would’ve been similar to the bombing of the Jedi temple arc with Ashoka)…
I remember Dogma so glad he shot Pong Krell he deserves it I wish Dogma could have been in another episode so we knew the full story!Can you do a video on the lore we know on Bolla Ropal that rodian jedi from CW and his clone regiment?
Something I thought about after this video is dogma gets arrested for a short period of time then released, a few days later barris offee stabs him with one of assajj ventress' lightsabers (nonlethal) and kidnaps him and dogma takes echo's place in the few episodes the bad batch was in (Also in this version echo doesn't end up presumed dead, and saves fives life by getting him to not pick up Captain Rex's pistols)
I feel like Dogma would be the guy who would snitch and Rex would be the type of guy to tease you in to telling the teacher but then just ask to go to the bathroom. Rex was like that when he met the deserter lmao.
As much as I enjoyed the Umbara arc, I think they did Krell a real disservice as a character having him fall to the Dark Side. I watched the episodes when they aired and thought he was arrogant, misguided and incompetent. I was fascinated by his inability to lead troops effectively, simply using them as fodder and not grasping the nuances of strategy and leadership. It was refreshing as it was infuriating. I kept hoping he'd see the flaw in his ways and come to trust Rex. Or that Anakin or Obi-Wan would arrive to put him in his place. There was so much potential there. Instead, it turns out he was just evil all along. And that was far less interesting, and a bit of a let down. There was nowhere for his character to go. I was hoping for flaws that could be explored, but no, we get a moustache-twirling one-note bad guy. The Umbara arc is top-shelf Clone Wars, but they missed a real opportunity with Krell. As for Dogma, I think his trial would have vindicated him. He executed a traitor to the Republic (Krell). Rex and his Clones were carrying out that duty, but hesitated. Dogma came around to see the error of his ways (blind loyalty in the face of questionable leadership) and at last acted based in the best interest of the Grand Army of the Republic and loyalty to his fellow clones. A trail would give him the opportunity to explain that, present evidence and witnesses to a military court to defend himself (at least a proper court martial would. That's what courts martial are for).
I think the issue is that you quickly get into this thing where Krell overtakes the season and then you risk getting into Palpatine and Order 66 too soon
Dogma was amazing! I first thought he was a giant asshole. But he earned my everlasting respect the minute he shot krell. I really hope he was allowed to live after order 66...
Convinced them before they could pull the trigger? What are you talking about? The troopers still fired!!! Also, "reintegrate him into the Imperial Navy..." makes no sense. He was a trooper on the ground meaning the army.
Darth Nihilus his punishment would have been more lenient because he didn’t kill any jedi. Though, he still committed treason against the republic and was probably serving a life sentence.
I really like Dogma cuz' he finally could open his eyes and learned to make his own decisions, a good soldier follows orders but when it comes to Fox I can't take it sorry, maybe he is misunderstood as some people say but he is literally like a droid
Dogma pretty much followed Order 66 of his own free will. Krell was a test by Palpatine to see if his army could do the task. Once he heard news of Krell's death it was more leverage he could use later on to justify his horrible actions.
Personally, I think he was sent back to kamino, and was placed with a unit of arc troopers that oversaw training and learned that blind and unwavering loyalty, and specially in the face of following orders isn’t always the best way to solve problems. It’s also possible he learnt this from rex and anakin before being reassigned to another battalion. one that is known for its highly loyal troopers, but were taught individuality and other qualities as well ( 501st is a great example but I think there were other companies that would be more suited for his mindset post umbara and post reformation)
I have respect for dogma for following the rules and for killing pong krell, pong krell set up clones to kill each other,he should have received some punishment for killing him but not the death penalty
not gonna lie, i don't think that dogma would've gotten a trial at all. I think that clones like him would just disappear and never be seen again. After all they're just clones and noone would've cared.
On the surface, Dogma would’ve been euthanized, but was instead of being put to death, would’ve likely have been sent to the Royal Red Guard academy for the most brutal & mind breaking training & such; likely didn’t survive & such…
If he was put in jail I hope ahsoka was able to find him and save and reform him and be one of the clone troopers that could have been saved and join his brothers somewhere and even reunite with Rex after the empires defeat
Dogma was an awesome concept for a clone. His unwavering loyalty to his General was his ultimate downfall, but he was the only clone we saw in TWC who’s true loyalty went above all, even his own brothers. But just a small correction for this video, you said that during Order 66 that the clones went to assassinate Maul bc he was a potential enemy to the Empire but they went to kill him bc of Order 66. Since Maul was a force user and a major threat & rival to Palpatine & Vader, he would’ve been targeted either way by the clones. Order 66 isn’t just meant for Jedi, the clones target any force user that isn’t the Emperor, Vader, or the Inquisitors.
But I don’t get it, all the clones in the galactic republic had a serum in their DNA that caused them to age super fast, but if that’s true, then how is is that Rex lived all the way after the Battle of Endor?
In episode 6 their was a rebel standing behind Han Solo when the battle of Endor was happening, he was fat and had a big beard, it was officallly confirmed in a “Star Wars Adventure” episode that this was Rex, but I wonder how he lived for that long.
Rex was 13 at the end of the war. At the Battle of Endor, just over 20 years had passed, putting him in his 30s. With the aging, he would have appeared to be just in his 60s or 70s. That is old, but given his excellent health and comparably better life style than most clones, Rex could have been in very good fighting shape
Why do people respect Dogma yet hate Fox despite their loyalties going against their own brothers? Easy: Dogma admitted that he was wrong and corrected his mistake. Fox on the other hand could give less of a shit if his actions doomed everyone.
I don´t hate any clone. They all did what they thought was their duty. They are not normal humans, they are slave soldiers genetically altered and trained specifically to be super obedient. You can´t fully apply normal morals of our world to people who have never had a chance to know what it´s like to be normal free people.
Considering Dogma killed a jedi in cold blood, I can imagine he would have a similar fate to Barriss Offee and would've been put into a secret clone assasin program like the Purge Troopers once the Republic became the Galactic Empire.
This is a very interesting theory, especially with the way the music and the camera zoomed in on Anakin when they said he was being called back by the supreme chancellor
Oh i didn't knew about this character sadly. thank you StarForceOne for explaining to us about who was this character and what happened to him after Order 66. i really loved your content! You did a great job! I appreciated your great and creative hardwork!
I thought that he'd be sent to Kamino and would be demoted to a job like 99 had. This would have left a story open in something like Rebels if they were they go there and Rex would convince a now old Dogma to help them, appealing to him to not make the same mistake again of following unjust orders from those training the Stormtroopers there. This would have been a good arc in Rebels in my opinion if they were ever going to do that and include something like Rex against some old clones like Cody who were still loyal to the Empire.
My theory is that we will get a scene like that in the rumored upcoming Rebels season, just they won't be able to "free" any remaining clones, while the Kaminoans will likely still treat Rex like property despite being an officer in the Rebellion
Dogma probably got experimented on by the Kaminoin's because they are that race that doesn't care about its creations...They probably wanted to see how he lost his complete and full loyalty to his commander, even though he was ordered to kill his brothers.
Unless we ever get an aswer, here's my headcanon.Dogma is put on a small trial, Rex and Anakin help to defend him, but it's Palpatien who congratulates Dogma for doing in the end what Rex struggled to do. they see that Dogma was still loyal and Rex was a little treasonous, but in the end with Krell's betrayal made fact Dogma may get some kind of puishment like a demotion, but gets allowed back into service, going on to be the 501st Clone narrating the 501st journal from Battlefront 2, his loyalties being shattered he now feels more loyal to the Republic then the Jedi, thus when order 6 is triggered Dogma doesn't really need the chip active to willingingly march into the Jedi temple. Staying loyal tot he Empire for many years to come.
I think it is possible that Palestine would manipulate Dogma’s extreme loyalty by erasing all his memory but put him in some kind of secret Jedi hunting squad after order 66 is executed. I made this theory because I believe the Empire will need such soldiers to do anything they can to hunt down the Jedi, and Dogma can be fooled so easily
I honestly would had kept a sizable portion of clones as a secret division or something, personally oversee their creation and programming. In the end i think the regular civilians joining would be more susceptible to corruption as seen through the movies, series and novels.
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Hey bro!! I'm curious and willing to help some on animating those unfinished episodes. Were you able to get the 3D-models or anything from Lucasfilm? Let me know... I'm proficient and certified in Adobe A/V software (Ae, An, Ch, Pr, Au, Ps, Ai, etc). So I could do some things. That'd be a fun side-project!! Keep rockin it man!!
Or... maybe he had his mind erased like they were planning on doing to Fives. If that happened we probably didn’t see him because nobody wants to see him.
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Dogma killed Pong Krell, that man needs a medal for his action.
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Dogma is the person that would remind the teacher of the homework
That bastard
Clone wars is indeed far superior to rebels
Walruss what does that have to do with this comment
THEmelon _ check the user name lol
The only thing rebels did better than clone wars was the storyline. While Clone Wars was a bit choppy, Rebels was completely straightforward.
Dogma got my respect for killing Krell.
Big ups for him there, I wonder if he got the death penalty for it
@@StarForceOne would rex face the same fate as dogma would he had killed Krell?
@@brodex4295 good question......
Haha same man, he straight up shot pong krell😂
@Archzyo My question is why didn't Rex say it was him, like he did for Fives. Rex thought it was the right thing, so why didn't he stick up for him.
No, I don't think he deserved punishment. He did what he knew was right. Unfortunately, the court system was under control of people like Palpatine, so there was 0% chance he would ever get a fair trial. And to be honest, I think that even if someone like Chancellor Valorum was still under rule, he likely would still get unfair treatment, due to people like Tarkin. He was 100% correct, but unfortunately, history will not see it that way.
Tbh I don’t know why Palpatine would defend Krell. He wasn’t apart of his plans and wanted to be Dooku’s apprentice which makes Krell a threat. If anything Dogma helped Palpatine but he prolly wouldn’t care. And in the original story Rex killed Krell and I doubt anything bad would’ve happened to him
@@haroldiscool6410 true. Would he go by what the people and republic think though? Say that the republic and Senate thought it was an wrong action by Dogma, would he simply accuse him of murder due to how it would bode for him in terms of the people's respect for him?
I hope that either Rex would cover it up or anakin would not let it happen
I see what you said at the end 🙈😆
So is Dogma useful to Palpatine because he is so loyal
He was a very by the book trooper, I’ll say that much
Thanks!
@@omega3120 You did nothing wrong my man ✌
Dogma 501st, love ya.
Blind loyalty is a dangerous thing.
Yeah but the 501st isn't a by the book unit
Im guessing killing Pong Krell was, “Aggressive Negotiations?”
Senator Amidala, I expect you know much about the aggressive negotiations tactic from your time on Geonosis!
Indeed, a shame we cant do that anymore. I prefer Diplomacy.
That’s a lie, I retired to Naboo
Trooper! I see you're hiding out on the homeworld of your emperor! Surprised you haven't joined your former brothers in Vader's 501st
Oh that's where you went. I was wondering why you were in such a rush to leave the temple
May the force be with you, and may the wills be with you.
How did you escape prison?
Jack Bartholomaus good try Coruscant guard
I feel like Dogma would be that class’s teacher’s pet who would super competitive for a gold star sticker.
Yeah who would ever want a gold star sticker
*nervous laughter*
Definitely, but I also think he’ll be the person who would regret acting like that.
I mean, that’s every clone who has a chip to be honest.
@@chasebucks8533 nah
Dogma basically executed order 66 early on Pong Krell so...
Maybe he did.
Not entirely considering krell was a traitor and admitted that he wasn't a Jedi anymore and had committed treason against the Republic for his actions. While he hadn't received the orders to kill him, I don't think it was an early execution of order 66 since krell was now an enemy.
I hoped dogma lived a long a and happy life
He did
Skywalker and rex
Pardoned him
For his actions
Go with that
I wish Dogma would've been in season 7. If he was in season 7 I like to think that he'll remove his inhibitor chip somehow, fight with Ashoka and Rex against the other Clones and then Dogma dies near the end adding to the sadness.
Thats what I thought Shouldve happend to Jesse
@@geraldmuller6253 Yeah, agreed. Poor Jesse.
@@XenoTronusWeePoo850
He could’ve survived, but there was no way because we already have Rebels
@@geraldmuller6253 I know, that's why I said Dogma dies near the end of season 7 to add to the sadness.
@@XenoTronusWeePoo850 true.
I really liked Dogma I think that the Umbara Arc made him something special
If you look up what dogma means his name makes a lot of sense
Fun fact: The word dogma is a set of principles laid down by authority as incontrovertibly true
Dogma was just ahead of his times killing Jedi. Had he waited until order 66 he would’ve been fine
I hope that Dogma wasn’t executed since the Jedi Council was aware of Pong Krell’s treason. Maybe he was reassigned to another unit. I can imagine the Empire using Krell’s actions as evidence of Jedi treason. Dogma would have been rehabilitated as a hero by the Imperial for propaganda.
His actions were justified, Krell was no better than a Sith.
They were bred to take orders without questions. And he gets punished for it. I feel sorry for Dogma. He follows orders and gets arrested then disobeys then by killing Krell and still gets arrested. He cant win :(
All the clones can´t win. They are the army of slaves engineered and bred and trained to be disposable war material. They are genetically altered to be loyal like abused dog who gets kicked by its owners and always licks their face because he was bred that way and doesn´t know any better and doesn´t fully understand it is abused.
They are so disposable to the "noble and democratic" Republic they even don´t have human rights, they are property. Noone has ever bothered to think what they would do after the war. What if the war ended quickly? Would they be all euthanised because they would be useless? Would they be given human rights? What if a clone finds a girlfriend but the relationship is doomed from the start because the clone´s aging process is accelerated, so when she´s about 40, he´s about 80. It´s heartbreaking "Aragorn and Arwen" type of situation.
Clones are the most abused people of all the inhabitants of the galaxy.
I really hope we see Dogma's fate in The Bad Batch and I believe he did the right thing.
He is one of my favs in the 501st, that with Kix and Jesse.
It's always amazing seeing new takes on troopers,that's why I love this show.
Had I been Dave Filoni, I would have made the last scene of episode 12 a dual shot, which shows the cells of both Dogma and Barriss Offee. The doors to their cells would open, they would look up, but before they could say anything, the clone in the doorway would shoot them.
I’ve always wondered, did clone cadets the age of Boba Fett in Attack of the Clones execute order 66? Or react to it somehow?
They had no jedi to report to,but woulve been loyal to the empire
Bobo child clones would most likely be on kamino not near and jedi
javi Luna yeah they were probably just supporting the older clones somehow or just waiting for what they have to do next, like join the Empire
Like other comments said, they would now be loyal to the empire since we saw in s6 that the inhibiter chip was placed in them at a very early age.
Dogma was my least favorite clone during umbara
I hated how he acted like he was in charge of the 501st in that arc
Isaac Kim if you have any beef with Dogma, he's a few comments above lol
I hated him until he killed Krell. Imagine we got an Arc with the 21st NovaCore and Krell, Krell would do something stupid and Bacara would just shoot him randomly with no hesitation
@@isaackim7675 In a weird way, he sort of was, in the sense that he was the only one who was really committed to doing much
Fuck you it’s UP bout dogma💯😂😂
Lol I watched the Umbara arc yesterday and was like wait what actually happened to him. Coincidence
I think we see him get arrested and taken on a gunship at the end
That's awesome haha, what are the chances!
Was it?
@Rev_9898 same
I'm sad because he was tricked by Krell he felt betrayed
I've always had a soft spot in my heart for Dogma. Loyalty was his greatest strength and his great weakness all at once. He was taken advantage of because of it. I don't have any particular theory on what happened to him, but I hate that they never closed out that storyline. Dogma (and the whole 501st) deserved better.
I would prefer if they allowed him to live and leave the empire
He indeed was the most loyal to orders, not so much to his brothers....
Nick Cook why?
@@stretchscreamers Well, in the show, Anakin even mentions that Dogma reminds him of a younger, newer Rex. Seems like Dogma was so eager to please because he was so green
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Dogma’s fate should have been shown during the Clone Wars. It would’ve be such a good arc (although it would’ve been similar to the bombing of the Jedi temple arc with Ashoka)…
I remember Dogma so glad he shot Pong Krell he deserves it I wish Dogma could have been in another episode so we knew the full story!Can you do a video on the lore we know on Bolla Ropal that rodian jedi from CW and his clone regiment?
I always wondered what happened to him maybe he became a purge trooper after order 66
I've heard people say that. But wouldn't he have likely learned not to blindly follow orders?
@@kadeneichhorn7370 Would have been forced to.
Trooper dogma was a good trooper
Yeah, he was just manipulated
I like to think Dogma found a way to escape whether it was with the null class clones or with a clone commado squad
I honestly really wanted to see him during season 6 when fives was at kamino like a little Easter egg of some kind
I think Dogma deserves his own Disney + series, we’d get brand new Vietnam flashback memes.
"I trusted Krell I had to do it." Dogma
P.S Anouther amazing vid Star wars force one
"I had to. He betrayed us" Dogma
Thats Bacara too, accept with Mundi
Video title: explains what happened to dogma. Actual video: 70% explaining what happened on unbara and 30% saying some theories. This is click bait
I don’t know why but dogma is one of my favourite clone troopers in the clone wars series
Something I thought about after this video is dogma gets arrested for a short period of time then released, a few days later barris offee stabs him with one of assajj ventress' lightsabers (nonlethal) and kidnaps him and dogma takes echo's place in the few episodes the bad batch was in
(Also in this version echo doesn't end up presumed dead, and saves fives life by getting him to not pick up Captain Rex's pistols)
He has one of the best names
I always asked this question. Thanks for the video.
No worries! Glad I could help
I feel like Dogma would be the guy who would snitch and Rex would be the type of guy to tease you in to telling the teacher but then just ask to go to the bathroom. Rex was like that when he met the deserter lmao.
No dogma didn't deserve the death penalty because he was just being a loyal soldier to his generals
Should’ve got promoted to arc trooper 🤣🤣
As much as I enjoyed the Umbara arc, I think they did Krell a real disservice as a character having him fall to the Dark Side. I watched the episodes when they aired and thought he was arrogant, misguided and incompetent. I was fascinated by his inability to lead troops effectively, simply using them as fodder and not grasping the nuances of strategy and leadership. It was refreshing as it was infuriating. I kept hoping he'd see the flaw in his ways and come to trust Rex. Or that Anakin or Obi-Wan would arrive to put him in his place. There was so much potential there.
Instead, it turns out he was just evil all along. And that was far less interesting, and a bit of a let down. There was nowhere for his character to go. I was hoping for flaws that could be explored, but no, we get a moustache-twirling one-note bad guy.
The Umbara arc is top-shelf Clone Wars, but they missed a real opportunity with Krell.
As for Dogma, I think his trial would have vindicated him. He executed a traitor to the Republic (Krell). Rex and his Clones were carrying out that duty, but hesitated. Dogma came around to see the error of his ways (blind loyalty in the face of questionable leadership) and at last acted based in the best interest of the Grand Army of the Republic and loyalty to his fellow clones. A trail would give him the opportunity to explain that, present evidence and witnesses to a military court to defend himself (at least a proper court martial would. That's what courts martial are for).
I think the issue is that you quickly get into this thing where Krell overtakes the season and then you risk getting into Palpatine and Order 66 too soon
Dogma was amazing! I first thought he was a giant asshole. But he earned my everlasting respect the minute he shot krell. I really hope he was allowed to live after order 66...
Convinced them before they could pull the trigger? What are you talking about? The troopers still fired!!! Also, "reintegrate him into the Imperial Navy..." makes no sense. He was a trooper on the ground meaning the army.
I would like to know about Gregor's story and how he, Wolf and Rex ended up together in Rebels.
I reckon we will most likely see this story in a comic or even a book one day.
Imagine Ahsoka and Rex having to deal with Jesse,Dogma and the 332nd during order 66
Well at least I can stop scratching my head about Dogma now all I need is this question answered
What happened to Clone Trooper Slick?
Good question!
What about the droid attack on the wookies?
@@noobybooby9357 To Kashyyyk, I will go. Good relations, with wookies, I have.
Darth Nihilus his punishment would have been more lenient because he didn’t kill any jedi. Though, he still committed treason against the republic and was probably serving a life sentence.
He was definitely executed.
A good soldier if I ever saw one
I really like Dogma cuz' he finally could open his eyes and learned to make his own decisions, a good soldier follows orders but when it comes to Fox I can't take it sorry, maybe he is misunderstood as some people say but he is literally like a droid
Dogma is the type of clone who'd go through Order 66 even without the chip
Dogma pretty much followed Order 66 of his own free will. Krell was a test by Palpatine to see if his army could do the task. Once he heard news of Krell's death it was more leverage he could use later on to justify his horrible actions.
This video is old but…why would he be executed for killing Krell? I’m pretty sure every clone would have reported pong Krell as a traitor.
Personally, I think he was sent back to kamino, and was placed with a unit of arc troopers that oversaw training and learned that blind and unwavering loyalty, and specially in the face of following orders isn’t always the best way to solve problems. It’s also possible he learnt this from rex and anakin before being reassigned to another battalion. one that is known for its highly loyal troopers, but were taught individuality and other qualities as well ( 501st is a great example but I think there were other companies that would be more suited for his mindset post umbara and post reformation)
Dogma deserves a medal of honour for saving the 501st, cause Rex wouldn’t have killed Krell. I guess being captured, saved him from order 66
That's So Awesome Bro 🙌👊🤗
Before watching this video, I was hoping Dogma would’ve been relieved from duty and worked on Kamino as a custodian
Actually we see him moping around in the bar fives visits in the arc he dies. It's where he meets jesse and gets into contact with rex and anakin
I can’t find him. Do you have a time stamp or a description of where he’s at in the bar?
I like the little law and order reference
I have respect for dogma for following the rules and for killing pong krell, pong krell set up clones to kill each other,he should have received some punishment for killing him but not the death penalty
what happened to Fen Rau after rebels and before the empire please
not gonna lie, i don't think that dogma would've gotten a trial at all. I think that clones like him would just disappear and never be seen again. After all they're just clones and noone would've cared.
What happened to Barris Offee when order 66 was carried out and afterwards?
Dogma was as close to being a droid as possible
On the surface, Dogma would’ve been euthanized, but was instead of being put to death, would’ve likely have been sent to the Royal Red Guard academy for the most brutal & mind breaking training & such; likely didn’t survive & such…
Dogma is the type of guy to execute order 66 without his inhibator Chip...
If he was put in jail I hope ahsoka was able to find him and save and reform him and be one of the clone troopers that could have been saved and join his brothers somewhere and even reunite with Rex after the empires defeat
1:34 Jessie: am I a joke to you?
Good soldiers follow orders. The best soldiers make their own orders.
Best arc in the whole series.
Dogma was an awesome concept for a clone. His unwavering loyalty to his General was his ultimate downfall, but he was the only clone we saw in TWC who’s true loyalty went above all, even his own brothers. But just a small correction for this video, you said that during Order 66 that the clones went to assassinate Maul bc he was a potential enemy to the Empire but they went to kill him bc of Order 66. Since Maul was a force user and a major threat & rival to Palpatine & Vader, he would’ve been targeted either way by the clones. Order 66 isn’t just meant for Jedi, the clones target any force user that isn’t the Emperor, Vader, or the Inquisitors.
But I don’t get it, all the clones in the galactic republic had a serum in their DNA that caused them to age super fast, but if that’s true, then how is is that Rex lived all the way after the Battle of Endor?
In episode 6 their was a rebel standing behind Han Solo when the battle of Endor was happening, he was fat and had a big beard, it was officallly confirmed in a “Star Wars Adventure” episode that this was Rex, but I wonder how he lived for that long.
Yes, that is Rex! As for the aging, it's technically possible that he loves that long, but I don't know the exact rates
Rex was 13 at the end of the war. At the Battle of Endor, just over 20 years had passed, putting him in his 30s. With the aging, he would have appeared to be just in his 60s or 70s. That is old, but given his excellent health and comparably better life style than most clones, Rex could have been in very good fighting shape
Why do people respect Dogma yet hate Fox despite their loyalties going against their own brothers? Easy: Dogma admitted that he was wrong and corrected his mistake. Fox on the other hand could give less of a shit if his actions doomed everyone.
Fox is just also sort of portrayed as an idiot.
I don´t hate any clone. They all did what they thought was their duty. They are not normal humans, they are slave soldiers genetically altered and trained specifically to be super obedient. You can´t fully apply normal morals of our world to people who have never had a chance to know what it´s like to be normal free people.
Considering Dogma killed a jedi in cold blood, I can imagine he would have a similar fate to Barriss Offee and would've been put into a secret clone assasin program like the Purge Troopers once the Republic became the Galactic Empire.
Do anybody think palpitatine sensed the darkness in pong krell and called anakin back for further manipulation
This is a very interesting theory, especially with the way the music and the camera zoomed in on Anakin when they said he was being called back by the supreme chancellor
There are some theories that Palpatine was already trying to isolate Anakin by killing Rex and decimating the 501st.
I agree that dogma doesn't deserve the death penalty, he was brave
Oh i didn't knew about this character sadly. thank you StarForceOne for explaining to us about who was this character and what happened to him after Order 66. i really loved your content! You did a great job! I appreciated your great and creative hardwork!
Appreciate it so much!
@@StarForceOne you are welcome !
I thought that he'd be sent to Kamino and would be demoted to a job like 99 had. This would have left a story open in something like Rebels if they were they go there and Rex would convince a now old Dogma to help them, appealing to him to not make the same mistake again of following unjust orders from those training the Stormtroopers there. This would have been a good arc in Rebels in my opinion if they were ever going to do that and include something like Rex against some old clones like Cody who were still loyal to the Empire.
My theory is that we will get a scene like that in the rumored upcoming Rebels season, just they won't be able to "free" any remaining clones, while the Kaminoans will likely still treat Rex like property despite being an officer in the Rebellion
I will see about that...
Great episode. As is all of you content
Dogma probably got experimented on by the Kaminoin's because they are that race that doesn't care about its creations...They probably wanted to see how he lost his complete and full loyalty to his commander, even though he was ordered to kill his brothers.
How about what happened to Count Dooku’s family after order 66?
Finally someone made a video I’ve been waiting years for an answer
I’ve been waiting for someone to make this video for sooo long😂
Glad I could help you out ❤️
dogma should not be convicted of this pawn was a traitor
cody: wait WASNT THAT ME
Dogma done the right thing for shot pong krell
Unless we ever get an aswer, here's my headcanon.Dogma is put on a small trial, Rex and Anakin help to defend him, but it's Palpatien who congratulates Dogma for doing in the end what Rex struggled to do. they see that Dogma was still loyal and Rex was a little treasonous, but in the end with Krell's betrayal made fact Dogma may get some kind of puishment like a demotion, but gets allowed back into service, going on to be the 501st Clone narrating the 501st journal from Battlefront 2, his loyalties being shattered he now feels more loyal to the Republic then the Jedi, thus when order 6 is triggered Dogma doesn't really need the chip active to willingingly march into the Jedi temple. Staying loyal tot he Empire for many years to come.
I think it is possible that Palestine would manipulate Dogma’s extreme loyalty by erasing all his memory but put him in some kind of secret Jedi hunting squad after order 66 is executed. I made this theory because I believe the Empire will need such soldiers to do anything they can to hunt down the Jedi, and Dogma can be fooled so easily
he's a good soilder he should leave to fight another day.
Damn, pumping out a lot of videos today lol. Good job Star Force.
Appreciate it, thanks for watching :)
I tried with the hole idea with YT, didnt work out when I actually needed to work hard at it lol.
He did not say exactly what happened to dogma he only went over what could of happened...
If you think about it Kix, Dogma, and Captin Rex are the only surviving members of torrent company. If he survived conviction.
And Echo
@@yessir889 true
Dogma would probably execute order 66 even without the chip, cause he's been through Jedi betrayal
Random question but what’s the audio track in the back?
Finally a vid that answers my questions
I honestly would had kept a sizable portion of clones as a secret division or something, personally oversee their creation and programming. In the end i think the regular civilians joining would be more susceptible to corruption as seen through the movies, series and novels.
Tbh, rip Dogma. I don’t expect him to have survived the court trial