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@Xhenoxic heck with his willingness to turn on his brothers and the fact he hilled krell palpatine probably recruited him into the clone assassins devision
Waxer's death was all the more difficult to bear once he realized that he was firing upon his own brothers. It's tragic that we never got to see the 212th's perspective, let alone Boil's reaction. At least Hardcase went out with his head held high, shifting the tide of the Umbaran conflict & potentially saving countless lives in the process.
I hope the next battlefront will come out on steam and have a workshop, the modding community is huge and would keep the game alive. They could even hire the best mod creators to create content. The problem that effected SWBF2 was that the skins were easy to buy, which is great and all but EA didn’t see a profit. I rather have paid skins or expensive in game skins rather than a season pass and game changing trash. Having paid skins would have kept the game alive also not moving DICE employees back and forth between BF5 would have helped. What EA created were two games that had a ton of potential but no support or backing.
@@mirzahamzabaig5667 true but in the clone wars they have advanced technology within a few months they could make a planetary wide shield or a city shield that would be impossible to destroy by a planetary bombardment from star destroyers. But the death star would destroy the planet.
@@exzar4266 Umbaran tech is tough, not invincible. Remember, the 501st had a hard time taking on Umbaran tanks, fighters, and walkers, but that was largely thanks to Krell, and they still overcame all of their obstacles against the worst possible odds. And Umbara does not have a formal military, only a militia. With decent resources, and a competent commander, the Imperials would not have nearly as tough a time. The Umbarans have superior tech, but the Imperials have air-superiority, greater numbers, and firepower on their side. And we don't know that the Umbarans didn't use planetary shielding in the unseen initial stage of the battle, or shield their capital in the unseen siege on the city. And shields aren't foolproof. Some can be overloaded through sheer firepower, have a surface weakness like Scarif's shield gate, allow slow-moving objects, walkers, or people to pass through them; and even if the Umbarans had an impenetrable shield that would stop anything, sooner or later they'd have to shut at least a section of it down.
My Lord, since you treated Umbara leniently and gave them significant autonomy, the Umbarans have cooperated rather well. Shall we try to replicate this strategy with the other star syste-" "UNLIMITED POWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER"
That rebel is what the citizens in any planet would call a terrorist. Kind of like Saw extreme rebel force, people viewed them as terrorist and they then joined the empire for security. Same thing with the First Order and the Resistance. It took people like Mon Mothma, Ackbar, and Leia to kind of help with a better viewing of the Rebels, but during the New Republic, people viewed the Resistance as insane since their Generals were in wars before and they thought that they had PTSD or went insane because of the war and thought they were terrorist as well until the First Order suddenly destroyed every New Republic planet, leaving the Resistance along in the fight. Edit: thanks if you read it all. It was a lot lol
@Xhenoxic I think he means why was it that way as a writer's choice. It more or less reversed the creation of the New Republic, and having the same small force vs oppressive force. I personally don't particularly care since I lost interest in that trilogy, but I think it would have been more unique to have the New Republic be the protagonist's alignment.
@@joebomb1019 I can see how it would be pretty cool, but having the Resistance fight the First Order shows how powerful the First Order is. They were able to destroy the old Rebellion fleet, destroy the Senate, and was basically the new empire. Really shows a lot of that in the "The Resistance" show.
He most certainly had good intentions but I do think he should’ve sought help instead. I mean there’s other ways to fight back without costing innocents directly.
i moderately disagree with neval's decision to destroy umbara in order to save it as the empire probably would have just mined it dry as well and if he wanted to help fight the empire he could have simply hooked up with another cell in order to do his part umbara would have just suffered regardless but it feels like his efforts to protect such people like them were moot as he only did what the empire would have done themselves this sounds like either he didn't actually care he just let his hatred drive him even if it was hate for the empire or he didn't understand his efforts to save the planet yielded results no more positive then that of an imperial invasion as for his plane of luring the empire there as a trap for them beyond the umbaran's knowing seems like it was not worth it in anyway shape or form but i'd judge that based off how much damage was done to the planet aside from the immense mining and industrial facilities and how many umbaran's were killed in the process and the fact that in the end the empire found out the truth in the end it would seem it was very much for nothing... my final opinion... this was a considerable victory for the empire
Anyone disturbed by how bendy the clones’ necks are? Like they can literally look up without moving their bodies. Gives me chills. Like at 0:19 when Rex looks up
Tauntaunns no I mean like how the back of their helmets are basically where their neck connects to their bodies. Like when hardcase and fives are looking at the umbaran base on the ridge when they go on their special mission, their necks shouldn’t be bent so much lol
One man destroying a Planet to fight the empire... War is never a "zero sum" game, so it's rather IMPOSSIBLE to say if it's "right or wrong", since war as an institution can't be called "right or wrong" with any amount of certainty...
If the Umbarans thought that their resources would be used in Star Destroyers, and a bunch of tiny drones heavily damaged the Star Destroyers, wouldn't the Umbarans realize that their resources were not being used to build ships as the Empire said, and encourage further fighting?
To be honest, I was kind of hoping for a worse date for the umbarans. They don't deserve a happy end after what they did to the 501st and 212th boys. RIP waxer and hardcase, plus all the other clone boys.
Well after their Senator died within the republic, they decided to join the separatists and the republic came by force. They were just protecting their home, and the same thing here
He was in the wrong. Doing bad things for a good cause is still bad and wrong. Same for doing good things for a bad cause. Dispite his intentions, he still destroyed the livelihood of an entire people and robbed from them.
Apart from Ilum, we know that Kyber crystals can be found on Lothal, Utapau, Jedha, Mygeeto and a few other planets, so pretty much any planet strong in the force has a deposit of them. Although a Jedi can't just take a kyber crystal from anywhere, they have to seek out the one that specifically calls to them through the force! Thanks for watching :)
Nevel Sidney could have found another way to fight the Empire. He didnt have to destroy a planets entire ecosystem. The road to hell is pavied with good intencions. Those who fight monsters should take great care that they themselves dont become monsters.
In a real sense he was wrong. Just because you're fighting for something or someone doesn't mean that you get to hurt the people who you're trying to save. Especially with the plan to install the Empire and install a Imperial governor. In the way of the Star Wars series he probably was thought he was justified to do what he did in protecting Umbarans.
That Neville guy was completely wrong. Join the rebels, don’t make your own and destroy a planet. Then you’re no worse than the empire you want to destroy to “free” this planet
He should not have dont it, sure the shadow people are creepy but I'mbaseing one of my Statwars story's about a Mandolorian who uses similar yet diffrent tactics on his targets, so Umbra would of made a Awsome Planet for him to hide in
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@StarForceOne hellooooooooooo
When mando season 2 trailer releases, can you make a breakdown video?
Yesssss
I haven't seen the video yet but if the tragic and unsettling story of today is about the death of many Umbarans then i am very happy about this
I was so shocked when he said that the trailer was dropping tomorrow
The Umbara arc is my 2nd favourite arc of the show after the Siege of Mandalore
I agree Umbara focused mainly on the clones unlike the other battle arcs they focused mainly on the Jedi.
Same here
Agreed.
Hell yeah
The Living Paradox me too, Professor Thawne
Ain't going to lie. Umbara broke my heart especially at Waxer death. Would it have been too much to kill another important clone? XD
Waxer :(
@@nathanwilliams3877 me upon realising dogma didn't die at the end of that arc "off all the good people we lost how are you still alive!"
Would it have been to much to not kill any clones?!!!?!!!?!?
@Xhenoxic heck with his willingness to turn on his brothers and the fact he hilled krell palpatine probably recruited him into the clone assassins devision
Waxer's death was all the more difficult to bear once he realized that he was firing upon his own brothers. It's tragic that we never got to see the 212th's perspective, let alone Boil's reaction.
At least Hardcase went out with his head held high, shifting the tide of the Umbaran conflict & potentially saving countless lives in the process.
This arc was incredible. One of the best.
It’s a 2 ;( haterssss
The best
@gigan Godzilla i found this to be 2nd best. My favourite was the siege of mandalore
Let’s be honest, Umbara was a brutal arc.
It was suppose to be their version of the Vietnem War itself from what I'd heard, I think.
Brutal, but probably one of the most important arcs in the series.
“I can't even see the enemy! ""That's why they're called the Shadow People, Tup!”
Umbara. The one map we wanted in battlefront2 that we never got.
Rip umbara, utapah, mygeeto & mustafar.
@The Mando Sith. ik but i rather it be a official map/planet in the game
Imagine all the content that we would hace new skins even new troopers and weapons and heroes. Is EA fault as always
Get the battlefront 2 saga edition mod for the pc and you'll get to play it with tons of other cool features. Makes it better than the EA garbage.
I hope the next battlefront will come out on steam and have a workshop, the modding community is huge and would keep the game alive. They could even hire the best mod creators to create content. The problem that effected SWBF2 was that the skins were easy to buy, which is great and all but EA didn’t see a profit. I rather have paid skins or expensive in game skins rather than a season pass and game changing trash. Having paid skins would have kept the game alive also not moving DICE employees back and forth between BF5 would have helped. What EA created were two games that had a ton of potential but no support or backing.
Mustafar?
Why didn't the dude just make a umbaran rebel alliance? Their ships and tanks are like impossible to destroy.
The Umbaran people problely would have said "We'd like to keep our independence, so no thanks we're good" to the guy.
I don't think they would have wanted star destroyers raining lasers on them or a shot from death star.
@@mirzahamzabaig5667 true but in the clone wars they have advanced technology within a few months they could make a planetary wide shield or a city shield that would be impossible to destroy by a planetary bombardment from star destroyers. But the death star would destroy the planet.
@@exzar4266 Umbaran tech is tough, not invincible. Remember, the 501st had a hard time taking on Umbaran tanks, fighters, and walkers, but that was largely thanks to Krell, and they still overcame all of their obstacles against the worst possible odds. And Umbara does not have a formal military, only a militia. With decent resources, and a competent commander, the Imperials would not have nearly as tough a time. The Umbarans have superior tech, but the Imperials have air-superiority, greater numbers, and firepower on their side. And we don't know that the Umbarans didn't use planetary shielding in the unseen initial stage of the battle, or shield their capital in the unseen siege on the city. And shields aren't foolproof. Some can be overloaded through sheer firepower, have a surface weakness like Scarif's shield gate, allow slow-moving objects, walkers, or people to pass through them; and even if the Umbarans had an impenetrable shield that would stop anything, sooner or later they'd have to shut at least a section of it down.
@@mitchellhayward6492 i know i was just saying that it was possible to fight the empire
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I found it kinda wierd how the umbarens looked alike
Aliens would say the same thing about bald white men from earth
Bullet Sponge Gaming 😂
Mandalorians civilians looked the same too in the earlier season, probably lack of fund x)
Because they could be bothered to but effort into the villains, same with alot of other episodes....
@@varidian694 PFFFFFFFFFT
That rebel is what the citizens in any planet would call a terrorist. Kind of like Saw extreme rebel force, people viewed them as terrorist and they then joined the empire for security. Same thing with the First Order and the Resistance. It took people like Mon Mothma, Ackbar, and Leia to kind of help with a better viewing of the Rebels, but during the New Republic, people viewed the Resistance as insane since their Generals were in wars before and they thought that they had PTSD or went insane because of the war and thought they were terrorist as well until the First Order suddenly destroyed every New Republic planet, leaving the Resistance along in the fight.
Edit: thanks if you read it all. It was a lot lol
No they only destroyed every planet in the hosnian system
@Xhenoxic I think he means why was it that way as a writer's choice. It more or less reversed the creation of the New Republic, and having the same small force vs oppressive force. I personally don't particularly care since I lost interest in that trilogy, but I think it would have been more unique to have the New Republic be the protagonist's alignment.
@@joebomb1019 I can see how it would be pretty cool, but having the Resistance fight the First Order shows how powerful the First Order is. They were able to destroy the old Rebellion fleet, destroy the Senate, and was basically the new empire. Really shows a lot of that in the "The Resistance" show.
I had to turn up my brightness during these episodes
@Oliver Grande That's why their called the shadow people Tup!
Oliver Grande that’s why they’re called the shadow people, tup
Pfftffffffft
I forgot about this part from the Thrawn novel, it was so cool to see Umbara and Vulture Droids again
Thanks for the reminder about Mando season 2 trailer.
Bro move.
Hopefully it actually happens, the leakers are saying it will, but it could end up being wrong :(
I hope they won't spoil ashoka being alive to all the people still watch clone wars and rebels by showing the trailer on tv everywhere :(
Would have loved to have seen the 212th's perspective of the Battle of Umbara
Who else was caught by surprise when we saw Dogma holding the smoking blaster at the end of this arc?
Every time I watch it I still think rex is the one who shot him every time
He most certainly had good intentions but I do think he should’ve sought help instead. I mean there’s other ways to fight back without costing innocents directly.
That’s how the rebels operated, suicide bombers and such
@@ayoitsyayo some*
nevil a guy who hated the way people are treated and decided to start a rebellion and ruin peoples live in the process sounds familiar
In his defence, all umbara a are scumbags, they murdered so many men
@@commandercody206 sorry dude I'm a CIS supporter
You are an enemy of the republic
@@commandercody206 always have been
I really like this channel it has just an really awsome community and i like the effort put in these vids thx starforce for making my days wholesome
Thank you so much, really glad you enjoy :)
@@StarForceOne np appreciate you bro
I remember the battle of Umbara like it was yesterday
Mate
Did you kill any umbarans.
You were there
@@clonecoric4140 if he didnt he is a traitor of the Republic
Malettuce AND Again..... I Bump Into you
umbara should’ve been in battle front 2
It would've been cool but they would have to make new models and ships that would just waste time on some other things DICE were planning
Battle of Umbara is one of my favorite episodes.
Same I watch it along with the episode we’re waxier & boil meet numa
Idk why I found it funny when that one trooper just starts firing in the air and kicks says “ey calm down your wasting amo” and then he keeps firing
The moment Thrawn was in the battlefield, the battle was over
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I can’t believe I’m feeling bad for the long heads
Nightswan: Wants to free planets from the harsh Imperial rule.
Also Nightswan: Orchestrates a battle to bring a planet under harsh Imperial rule.
Umbara is my favourite planet by far
Great vid
Good content keep it up
Good job! I’m satisfied
Hardcase always hated this place.
umbara arc will always be one of the best
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Of course, how are you!
@@StarForceOne I'm good
Daelan Perera Wassup Daelan
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So excited!!
Great video man. Love your vids 👍👍👍
Appreciate it!
i moderately disagree with neval's decision to destroy umbara in order to save it as the empire probably would have just mined it dry as well and if he wanted to help fight the empire he could have simply hooked up with another cell in order to do his part umbara would have just suffered regardless but it feels like his efforts to protect such people like them were moot as he only did what the empire would have done themselves this sounds like either he didn't actually care he just let his hatred drive him even if it was hate for the empire or he didn't understand his efforts to save the planet yielded results no more positive then that of an imperial invasion as for his plane of luring the empire there as a trap for them beyond the umbaran's knowing seems like it was not worth it in anyway shape or form but i'd judge that based off how much damage was done to the planet aside from the immense mining and industrial facilities and how many umbaran's were killed in the process and the fact that in the end the empire found out the truth in the end it would seem it was very much for nothing... my final opinion... this was a considerable victory for the empire
0 dislikes, balanced as everything should be.
Liar.
Sry to break to ya but there 3 now
6 dislikes now
Make it 7
Team Panda make it 8
This battle was epic and amazing and the music was awesome
Your heavily underrated
Appreciate that, means a lot :)
@@StarForceOne no problem
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Is that image of the stardestroyer and tie fighters at 6:04 avaiable for download anywhere? Its so epic
Tbh, I feel like vulture droids might be better then your average tie
Very interesting story a bit complex but i like it...
They should make a Clone Wars game, full campaign, Destiny in style.
Umbara and Felucia are beautiful planets.
What about the unsettling fate of umbara DURING the clone wars
Best arc in the clone wars no questions asked
Anyone disturbed by how bendy the clones’ necks are? Like they can literally look up without moving their bodies. Gives me chills. Like at 0:19 when Rex looks up
It looks weird because of his helmet
Tauntaunns no I mean like how the back of their helmets are basically where their neck connects to their bodies. Like when hardcase and fives are looking at the umbaran base on the ridge when they go on their special mission, their necks shouldn’t be bent so much lol
The Battle of Umbra was dark. No pun intended.
One man destroying a Planet to fight the empire...
War is never a "zero sum" game, so it's rather IMPOSSIBLE to say if it's "right or wrong", since war as an institution can't be called "right or wrong" with any amount of certainty...
*insert Star Wars meme here to cover up your lack of vision*
Yea, bro it was pretty creepy for that 1 guy to do that.... might as well have that planet get blown up by the death star
I wish we got more of the Umbarans
Man, every time something cool is out there, Star wars goes "and the whole planet was destroyed"
This is fully Canon too hahah 😂
@@StarForceOne ;)
What’s the music in the background of the video in the beginning? Also, awesome video!
Umbara was one of my favourite ark in the clone wars
This was such a good arc in the series
If the Umbarans thought that their resources would be used in Star Destroyers, and a bunch of tiny drones heavily damaged the Star Destroyers, wouldn't the Umbarans realize that their resources were not being used to build ships as the Empire said, and encourage further fighting?
The Umbara arc was my favourite, and I really liked Pong Krell🧐😉🔥 .
@Oliver Grande Your committing mutiny Captain......
2:18 clearly what palpatine would have called a terrorist
trailer didn't drop :(
:( the leakers got it wrong
Just about ready for tomorrow
To be honest, I was kind of hoping for a worse date for the umbarans. They don't deserve a happy end after what they did to the 501st and 212th boys. RIP waxer and hardcase, plus all the other clone boys.
Well after their Senator died within the republic, they decided to join the separatists and the republic came by force. They were just protecting their home, and the same thing here
Still glad that the umbara people died they deserve it
I like the planet of Umbara, but Pantora will always be my favourite planet lol!
Can you do a video on jek14 as what would of happened to him after order 66
Does anyone know, which music tracks were used in this video?
Umbara is like the Vietnam ARC
Was nightswan worse than saw gerrera?
Imagine this map on battlefront 2
Is that text to speech or do you just not breath?
He was in the wrong. Doing bad things for a good cause is still bad and wrong. Same for doing good things for a bad cause. Dispite his intentions, he still destroyed the livelihood of an entire people and robbed from them.
did boil die during the clone war?
Is this canon or legends?
This video shows that not all rebels were the good guys
The man sound insane, that is what.
He should of convinced the Umbarans to fight.
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The rebel was in the wrong to take all those materials from them, because no one are "good guys" in star wars.
There was no trailer for the mandolorian
But what happened to dogma
Imagine the first order went up against umbara
So that rebel tried to overthrow the umbaran government and replace it with an imperial one so he could fight the empire?
Basically yep hahaha, and he thought it would be easier to steal mining resources from the empire than the umbarans
StarForceOne, if you see this, where do you think Jedi and Sith will get their lightsaber crystals now that Ilum has been destroyed?
Apart from Ilum, we know that Kyber crystals can be found on Lothal, Utapau, Jedha, Mygeeto and a few other planets, so pretty much any planet strong in the force has a deposit of them. Although a Jedi can't just take a kyber crystal from anywhere, they have to seek out the one that specifically calls to them through the force! Thanks for watching :)
@@StarForceOne Ok, neat! I didn't know they could be found on other planets. Thanks for making your awesome videos!
@@reaganscoles7869 No problem, glad to help!
How does it feel to have 69 thousand subs?
Can u do a Livestream of mandolorin season 2 if so pls do it
Yes, the human rebel was evil.
This shouldn't even be a debate regardless of his goals or intent.
anyone ever wonder if the Emperor was laying pipe in Sly Moor
Nevel Sidney could have found another way to fight the Empire. He didnt have to destroy a planets entire ecosystem. The road to hell is pavied with good intencions. Those who fight monsters should take great care that they themselves dont become monsters.
In a real sense he was wrong. Just because you're fighting for something or someone doesn't mean that you get to hurt the people who you're trying to save. Especially with the plan to install the Empire and install a Imperial governor. In the way of the Star Wars series he probably was thought he was justified to do what he did in protecting Umbarans.
He did the most rebel thin, for the rebellion is a necessary evil.
He wasn't a rebel, he was a terrorist who destroyed a planet ecosystem
That Neville guy was completely wrong. Join the rebels, don’t make your own and destroy a planet. Then you’re no worse than the empire you want to destroy to “free” this planet
He should not have dont it, sure the shadow people are creepy but I'mbaseing one of my Statwars story's about a Mandolorian who uses similar yet diffrent tactics on his targets, so Umbra would of made a Awsome Planet for him to hide in
This guy wanted to install an imperial occupation of a world to get rid of the empire?
He's just another Saw Gerarria.
Ded he choose the right course of action? No. Right reason? Absolutely! And it is still better than the fate of Geonosis
Cheer for the clones if you gotta but let’s not forget the Umbarans were the victims here
I mean it was either nevil Cygni of Vader to destroy umbaras ecosystem
After the retreat of the republic North Umbara took over South Umbara
Oh wait
6 days later still not trailer
Yep, the leakers were wrong lul - never trust them
Is this cannon
Yes
Thanks just checking
If i was a pirate I'd try to steal there tech to sell to big weapons corporations.